RYAN LOSES HIS MIND - Theory MauLer and Ryan - Star Grift

[@blue_dreamed5141]

Call it an unpopular opinion but Star Grift is a big step up in quality from any other podcast Theory has done in the past. It is great to include different opinions from all corners of the fanbase. Theory's optimistic nature complements the more nihilistic and chaotic Ryan takes, and Mauler ties it all together. Love to see the progress, Theory, and it's noticeable, especially getting to meet Hayden. Keep it up!

[@verazollinger6862]

That's a very popular opinion of all of us. I am more of Mauler fan, but now I discovered theory and love the cooperation.

[@MonkeySpaceWalk]

I wasn’t sure if this podcast was going to work long term due to the vast differences. But I think you put their dynamic into words very well. It’s fun to listen to

[@itsalongwaytothetop100]

This is basically how we all used to talk to each other as mates... We like different characters and want to see different things happen. There's a bit of arguments about whoes right, best, better etc. But that used to be a big part of the fun "my guy would beat your guy in a fight".

[@JaketheMovieGeek]

Same opinion I have. Theory is the Light Side. Ryan is the Dark Side & Mauler is balance 😂

[@MrRight...]

I've enjoyed all the different theory podcasts. They all had their individual uniqueness.

[@slash903]

I am absolutely with Ryan here: you didn't want the Expanded Universe. Don't bastardize the EU to play on people's nostalgia.

[@thecrypticstench]

Exactly, member-berries mean jack shit when all they’re gonna go is destroy the thing we like. Fuck Lucasfilm

[@rq4740]

Bro all I want is a faithful adaptation of the thrawn trilogy 😭

[@Vladislav888]

@@rq4740 And all I want is a competent adaptation of KotOR2. I haven't read the Thrawn trilogy, but I've heard that it's also competently written. I'm deathly afraid that Disney adapts KotOR2 at some point. They will fuck it up. Especially considering that one of the protagonists is an incredibly strong female character. Wishing for Disney's adaptation is like wishing on monkey's paw.

[@jolean_cujoh]

Timestamps 0:57 - The Bad Batch (1) 3:00 - Netflix film: Damsel 4:23 - TBB (2) 9:32 - Jon Favreau / Dave Filoni (1) / Mando S3 17:59 - Deborah Chow / Mando S1 / % chances of the Mando movie being good 21:32 - Ahsoka S2 / Filoni (2) 24:10 - The World Between Worlds (1) / Tales of the Jedi 27:18 - Filoni's work in Rebels 28:58 - The WBW (2) / Why didn't Anakin reach out to Luke? / Rey's Force download ability 34:43 - Disagreeing with George's decisions 36:31 - George's idea of the Force / Sabine's Force potential 39:18 - Han shot first 41:13 - Madame Web (1) 45:46 - Suicide Squad: KtJL / MauLer's Chris Stuckmann impression 48:41 - A Song of ice and Fire 51:37 - Delta Squad / Predictions for TBB 53:47 - How Theory stays optimistic 57:04 - Stormtrooper zombies / Savage Opress / Nightsister magic 1:01:55 - How MauLer could've written Morgan / Barriss Offee (1) / Bringing back dead characters 1:05:40 - A pointy stick > Actual lightsaber 1:08:35 - ESB or RotS? / The best pay off in all of SW 1:12:45 - "Why tell stories around the Skywalker saga?" / Darth Zannah / Jaina Solo 1:14:35 - Watch parties 1:17:21 - Mace Windu coming back 1:19:40 - [!!!] Vader Ep 2 1:21:37 - Meeting up / Expressing honest opinions 1:28:30 - Which show do you like more: Mando or Ahsoka? / Anakin's lightsaber / Key jangling 1:30:31 - Star Wars: Resistance 1:32:45 - "Hoping Sabine Force powers disappear" / "Why didn't the New Republic investigate Vader's fortress?" / Eye of the Webbish Bog 1:35:47 - SW book recommendations / Jedi Apprentice books / Xanatos 1:39:24 - The origin of the Skyscanner guy meme / Sabine's Force training 1:41:11 - X-Men '97 1:43:40 - "Which IP are you most passionate for?" / The sad state of new material from beloved IPs 1:47:34 - "Which character(s) would you want to see returned?" 1:49:45 - Count Dooku in the EU / Dark Rendezvous / Recasting actors 1:53:55 - "Fav prequel villain?" / How the prequel villains reflected Anakin's journey to the Dark Side 1:56:47 - What's the deal with Omega? / Jango Fett / Madame Web (2) / Chris Stuckmann 2:00:41 - Ryan n MauLer just h8 stuf / Darth Maul in Solo / Emilia Clarke 2:02:30 - G'iah is all of the heroes / Helldivers 2:04:43 - "Would Savage replacing Maul still be bad?" 2:06:37 - "Ahsoka S1 would've been better animated" / How Thrawn was handled in Ahsoka S1 2:09:58 - Filoni's tweet 2:11:20 - Barriss Offee (2) 2:13:12 - "Thoughts on Mace Windu coming back?" / Who wins: Dooku vs Mace & Maul vs Dooku / Mace Windu's lightsaber combat style 2:18:25 - Shortman bad / SW headcanons 2:22:30 - "Theory on Gartic Phone when?" / Mission Impossible 2:27:50 - "New SW TV series should be non-Jedi & Sith focused" / What the Mando series should've been 2:31:00 - "Are the New Jedi Order books worth reading?" / Which is worse: TLJ or TRoS? 2:33:57 - "Filoni quit Resistance after 1 ep" / Rebels (1) 2:36:58 - MauLer is taking over! / Ryan's thoughts on Yoda's arc in TCW S6 2:39:46 - ViceTV's documentary / The Pong Krell arc / Diving into the Old Republic era or the origins of the Jedi & Sith? 2:41:45 - TCW has set a bad precedent? 2:44:45 - TBB (3) / Buffy & Angel watch order 2:46:52 - "How to get into Legends and how to progress?" 2:48:00 - Bounty Hunter (PS2) / Din Djarin's origin story 2:50:31 - "Will Ventress die in TBB?" 2:52:30 - Katie Lucas / Would you rather: Have George Lucas work on Vader Ep 2 or Fire everyone bad at Lucasfilm? 2:53:55 - The Drax arm 2:57:15 - "Would love to see an era of SW where Force users have children" / "Fav trooper design?" / "Fav Legends villain?" / Jerec / KOTOR Live action by: Jon & Filoni or Edwards & Gilroy? 2:59:32 - Hera confronting her father scene / Hera's portrayal in Ahsoka S1 / Would you rather be: A Saiyan or A Jedi? 3:01:45 - Darth Plagueis 3:03:13 - "Should the GoT writers be given another chance?" / Filoni screwing up Thrawn 3:05:46 - AT-AT Chat is a massive / Gal Gadot as a Leia recast? / The perspectives of canon (1) 3:07:42 - Ricky Gervais as Benji / "Fav James Bond actor?" 3:14:32 - The perspectives of canon (2) / Masters of the Air / "Should Old Republic and Legends writers take over?" 3:16:57 - "What EU story should be the next trilogy and who to direct and write?" 3:19:15 - Cameron Monaghan / "Thoughts on the notion that Marcia Lucas 'saved' SW?" 3:21:33 - The Revan book / "Which one SW game to play for the rest of your life?" 3:22:36 - [!!!] Theory Sabers Updates (1) 3:23:12 - An ideal recast of the prequels 3:25:55 - Rebels (2) 3:27:24 - "What is the most offensive sci-fi movie?" / "Thoughts on Pedro as Reed Richards?" 3:30:04 - "One EU book to be adapted into a movie?" / [SPOILER] Chewie in the New Jedi Order books / Yaddle 3:34:57 - 1992 Space Movie / "Thoughts on Syril?" 3:37:38 - The reason why the 'L' in MauLer's name is in caps / Comic coverages 3:42:15 - [!!!] Theory Sabers Updates (2) 3:43:26 - "What is the highest limit to the extent of Force powers?" *@ 3:45:00 play ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4jSZKqlnp6IqNE ) as background music for the best experience 3:48:57 - "How do you embrace nerd culture so well?" / Megadeth or Metallica? / "Which TBB character would you kill off?" 3:51:14 - "Why didn't Yoda push Obi-Wan and Anakin away from the pillar?" 3:53:02 - Closing

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Ah man reading these timestamps is fun in itself. You are doing excellent work for us all, thanke! ^.-.^

[@jolean_cujoh]

@@Beuwen_The_Dragon I'm glad you enjoy them :D

[@sp1011]

When I see a 4 hour stream I dont even bother hitting play unless I see some timestamps. Thank you Jolean, you are the MVP. @StarWarsTheory you need this person on your staff.

[@jolean_cujoh]

​@@sp1011Aw thanks man. Glad you find these helpful 👍

[@ppgod6989]

You are the best person on this planet , no , in this universe! ❤❤❤❤

[@sivad1025]

I grew up with 03 and 08 Clone Wars and was too young to read the EU so I'm partial towards Ahsoka and Filoni's creations. Literally nothing Ryan has said is remotely insulting here. 08 CW was super hostile to the EU. Thats just a fact. It's mostly a generational divide based on which you grew up with

[@joebro2670]

I grew up surounded by clone wars

[@shadowofdimentio4618]

Grievous literally got destroyed by the 2008 show and has not recovered. Everything before hand (even the movie which wasn't that good to him) at least treated him with respect and used him as an actual force until 2008 decided to make him a joke.

[@shanecoyle8053]

Grievous being so impressive even relative to some of the best the Jedi have ever produced is stupid though. His character isn’t even very good or interesting either.

[@shadowofdimentio4618]

@@shanecoyle8053 Dude was a war veteran from one of the bloodiest wars in star Wars, a master at combat and was then given the an artificial brain that could process information faster than any human, with armour that was more durable than star ships and training from Dooku himself (who is an expert in dueling specifically). He's then taught how to overwhelm opponents, use every advantage he has (including very unorthodox methods like his feet or extra arms) in a era of peace where most jedi aren't taught or have experienced real war. He is given specific body parts that let him defeat jedi, such as his feet that resist force push and pull, as well as wrists that can pivot and gain extra reach. He can think faster than most super computers, putting him leagues above any Jedi who isn't putting their all into force Precog. It makes a LOT of sense why he was a monster no Jedi could really beat. Anyone with force crush bodies him (Something only the Sith use, as well as Windu) or anyone who can stay calm like Obi-Wan. He was literally the perfect tool for a story perspective. In terms of character, everyone thinks Grievous rocks. He has plenty of character, both from legends and Movie/2008 (the good scenes of him anyway. The very few good scenes). He's a war vet who hates the Jedi specifically and hunts them like a monster. Anytime the story focuses on him, it shows him as this unstoppable monster that portrays the monsters the Jedi have created. Is he as interesting as Vader, Luke or Obi-Wan? Of course not. But the fact people still call him cool and want him in stuff despite how much 2008 tried to butcher him really shows how such a simple core principle can make a character. If we get into Legends then I'd argue he's a brilliant character only beaten out by Dooku in the prequel trilogy era for villains

[@Apac12]

People are just getting exhuasted of all of Ryan and maulers complaining nitpicking miserable outlook on everything which is worse than Theory or josh watching andor, they just aren't wording it correctly to get their point across to the 3 of them.

[@cattothefuture]

Best dynamic. The banter between the three of you works so well.

[@jimmyeatsmovies893]

About time, this type of show is done! Better than all the rest, especially when the drinker popped in!

[@cattothefuture]

As someone who thoroughly loves tcw during my childhood, I appreciate Ryan taking it apart because it's better than just nostalgia crap. I rather think about what can make it better than clutch my pearls at every opinion different from mine. If Ryan said something that I feel isn't reasoned well, I would refute that point instead of whining about him and Mauler in general.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Plus, looking at things we like through a critical eye can help us appreciate the good parts even more ^.-.^

[@JaketheMovieGeek]

Yeah like I’ve been a subscriber of Ryan’s before this podcast started. He got me started with reading the EU (Legends). But I do disagree with most of his takes on TCW. But I get his perspective. I mean personally I like Savage as a character and I think Ryan made a great point that it should have just been him trying to take revenge for his brother instead of bringing Maul back to life.

[@Commander_Shepard.]

It's part of growing up honestly. Back then I absolutely loved The Clone Wars. Now, I still enjoy it, but I'm aware it's not as perfect as I remember it.

[@markusaurelius4015]

You’ll be a lot happier in life if you can have your opinions and hear out someone’s dissenting opinions without getting defensive or taking it personally. I believe it’s a learned behavior but it’s a mature behavior that everyone needs to learn to grow.

[@strambino1]

The hopeful one, the disgruntled lore master and the realist. I love this dynamic from the Star grift!

[@Astrojammer]

Ten years ago: "Man that Force Awakens trailer looks awesome." Today: "Are you comparing Disney Star Wars to getting peed on? Positively?!"

[@PickledShark]

Haha, yeah the fact that that analogy was supposed to be supportive of consuming Disney SW…. Wow

[@buckmurray2543]

Luke trained with freaking YODA on dagobah, he ended up standing on one hand, doing a front flip and levitating a rock. Sabine trained a little bit with Ahsoka and could suddenly throw a person 200 yards.

[@drdoomskywalker1731]

That's Dave Filoni's garbage tier writing for you.

[@CaptanF0rever]

Not to mention, Luke was the son of one of the most powerful force sensitives EVER. Sabine was said to be the lowest force adept in the history of the Jedi. Making her a Jedi was a retarded decision.

[@oSamiSrzo]

​@@drdoomskywalker1731 More like Disney's woke agenda forcing all female characters to be OP for no reason. Just like Rey. And literally every recent marvel film.

[@THEnelsonbruhs]

“You jUsT hAtE hEr BeCaUsE sHe’S a WoMaN!”

[@11BRelo]

To be fair that wasn’t the first time she trained with her. But it def could’ve been better

[@icarusjumped2719]

I think the problem with Thrawn, is that he is supposed to be a super genius, but any character can only be as smart as its writer. And the current crop of writers... are part of the participation trophy generation.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Indeed. And there is a huge difference between an intelligent adversary that can appreciate his opponent's skills at besting them, vs Filoni's Thrawn who just fails at every step and brushes it off as 'it was my plan to lose". ^.-.^

[@THEnelsonbruhs]

I feel like it would be nearly impossible to top the genius of Palp’s rise to power and order 66 within the SW universe, that was honestly some of the most genius villain writing in film

[@Hello-bi1pm]

Is that true? How then non-super geniuses write Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty?

[@icarusjumped2719]

@@Hello-bi1pm they were smart enough to write it convincingly. You dont need to be a super genius to write a super genius, but you have to be smart enough to write some one who at least SEEMS very intelligent. This crop of writers... are not capable of even writing some one competent, never mind strategically brilliant.

[@star-warsien]

Dude, Ryans spot on with the Mara comment. Why the hell would you want Disney to bastardize a character that was represented who's story was told in a great way... Have Disney say hey, that's not how it happened (not canon) then take that character that people love and twist and contort it in a way that is a caricature of what it once was??? Insane how Theory is trying to justify it. No, its not like you are in a desert and need water. Well... Maybe then if you found out a minute later that the water was poison... Not worth it man.

[@blackdragoncyrus]

The grift that keeps on grifting.

[@JaketheMovieGeek]

I absolutely love this podcast. Theory is the Light hopeful side. Ryan is the dark side. Mauler is just in the middle not knowing what’s going on 😂 Way better than the podcast with Den of Nerds

[@GJ-py4xy]

Mauler knows whats going on

[@prometheusodin5461]

I love Ryan and Mauler with Theory best thing to happen to the channel

[@phoster3322]

8:30 - 10:10 RYAN SPITTING HARD FACTS, Also MauLer’s assessment is kinda eye-opening, Disney Star Wars has become comparable to drinking piss in an attempt to survive the Sahara. 2:58:43 Ryan’s reaction to a Dave/Jon KOTOR 😭 3:02:21 Ryan’s prediction for Acolyte Yoda 😭😭😭

[@seasnek7024]

Pure truth

[@Aikurisu]

Damn straight.

[@monkelord7730]

Let bro cook fr

[@SpiceAddicti0n]

Theory has the absolute worst takes

[@phoster3322]

@@SpiceAddicti0n He does his best to stay positive and look on the bright side, it’s a side of many Star Wars fans that simply wanna see good stories. It helps the others bounce off better, plus MauLer and Ryan usually provide the alternative. Good trio with differing opinions, and that’s the best we can ask for. I just think Ryan is hilarious lmao

[@theneighborino1465]

Love hearing all of you guys different opinions on Star Wars.

[@dereklopez9060]

Yeah, I hate what they did to Thrawn in the Ahsoka show, he's no longer the masterful strategist and military genius that he was know for in EU, Disney made him into a con man who spins his defeats into victories and wasn't able to take Ezra out for a decade is just beyond me. He became an idiot for no reason.

[@DG0398]

In Legends, his dying words are him making light of the fact that his ambush was lost and he was killed by the Noghri. He smiles at Pallaeon, dying from a stab wound, and says "...but it was so artfully done." Trying to make light out of defeats is part of his character. You just don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

​@@DG0398there is a difference between admiring an enemy overcoming your strategy, or catching you off guard, vs being completely delusional and pretending every loss and failure of your terrible plans is intentional with 'I meant to do that." Filoni's thrawn isn't written well.

[@2ndlegend125]

Only intelligent people can write intelligent characters. Stupid people can only write what they think an intelligent person is like.

[@ZShenlong1]

You can't expect idiots to be able to write a genius.

[@DG0398]

@Beuwen_The_Dragon in what way did he lose? He escaped the other galaxy that was his goal. Everything else was relatively irrelevant an insubstantial, and despite that he still, as far is is apparent, left Ahsoka and Sabine stranded there

[@jedinorseman]

Ryan saying as Yoda "you must respect their pronouns" made me laugh out loud so hard. Thank you guys. 🤣

[@crazyfingers619]

Timestamp?

[@jedinorseman]

3.02.30@@crazyfingers619

[@JaketheMovieGeek]

😂

[@Tjp7624]

@@crazyfingers6193:02:30

[@crazyfingers619]

@@Tjp7624 Thx!

[@kellyoes2870]

Lmao Ryan cracks me up and I actually agree with him personally. He’s a good addition to this! 😂

[@steffen89able]

It’s crazy how many people can’t handle different opinions. I’m here for mauler and Ryan but that doesn’t mean i agree with them on everything.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

*slams own head on desk* Mauler, ya killin me here.. how can i draw memes under these shortman conditions? ^.-.^

[@2ndlegend125]

Git Gud Beuwen!

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

“These are the times that try men’s souls…”

[@Skaldzerker]

Are you feeling like too little butter to his too much bread?

[@jamesdaviesanswers8751]

This has easily become my favorite weekly podcasts. I never thought I could laugh so hard at the demise of my favorite IP.

[@samuelschwager]

Ryan multitasking and smirking like a champ

[@AdvocatusDiaboliFin]

Oh boy! Another comfy SW stream! *10 minutes in* "I'D RATHER DIE THAN GET PISSED ON BY JOHN FAVREU!"

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

This stream had me in stitches. Glad to see Theory having fun and laughing with the boys. It's like the good ol days when us nerds can nerd out on which characters are best and roast each other over pizzas and fizzy drinks. ^.-.^

[@PhilipGaffney]

I dont get a lot of time to listen to pod casts etc. But this is such an easy pod cast to listen to. I love the varied opinions and the flow of chat. Honestly top quality guys. Please keep it up

[@jolean_cujoh]

Timestamps will be up much later. Classes have started for me :U

[@jolean_cujoh]

@@Beuwen_The_Dragon 👍

[@sebastianrivera3527]

You’re the best bro, no worries take your time.

[@dustin2207]

"No one is ever really gone" killed me lol.

[@JakeCampbell61382]

17:56 Theory says “The more we press, the more they’re going to see…” … he’s literally the abused wife who thinks if she says or does just the right thing, then her husband will stop punching her in the face… how many times do you need to be verbally attacked for pointing out objective, undeniable problems before you realize that they know what they’re doing, they have an agenda that takes priority over entertainment… they’ve even reframed proper criticism to be labeled as being secretly racist and sexist… do you think they actually believe that… of course they don’t. That alone should be enough to realize that literally NO AMOUNT OF PROPER ACCURATE CRITICISM WILL EVER BE RECEIVED BY DISNEY IN A HEALTHY WAY… they will lie and gaslight forever and they will never admit to doing anything wrong…

[@xplatypus516]

Theory is just a delusional fan at this point. I don’t understand how he can STILL think it can get better with all the same idiots involved in every project. He eats up the key jangling, he literally admitted he would think it’s awesome if they brought Mara Jade in regardless of quality I’m not even trying to be a dick, like I understand him wanting to stay optimistic but, dude after a decade of this garbage, why would Disney just… stop doing what they’re doing? There’s no point in hoping anymore unless everyone is fired and Lucasfilm is bought out by someone who cares. Or I’d be fine with just, no more Star Wars, you could still do games but just leave it alone at this point

[@jay21789]

Fr lmao

[@verazollinger6862]

There is a dead theory in all of us. It's nice to see the alive one.

[@theD3CR3P1Tone]

Yeah. It's hard to watch his internal conflict crack here and there. Star Wars died when Disney purchased it.

[@goldenknight33]

He has to just be playing a role at this point, no way someone could still be so high up on Filoni and have hope after all the garbage we've gotten.

[@verazollinger6862]

@@goldenknight33 works good for him. I am watching him for it

[@MrBen1980]

you should have called this video „Ryan being the G.O.A.T. for 2 hours“

[@Kino_pup]

Please don’t ask mauler to release weekly.. don’t make him put out low quality sh*t because he does it weekly. Quality over quantity any day. I’m glad he doesn’t have tik tok brain… Also, can you guys maybe talk about Jedi philosophy?.. I feel like that is a huge dividing line for people that like Star Wars. Like it’s the reason why OT people get mad at the prequels and why people disagree about the motivations of Luke. They get so emotional about it because they infuse their real life philosophy with Jedi philosophy.. I saw somebody absolutely reject yoda from the prequels because in the OT he said only use the force in defense, never attack. He said yoda was not defending obi and ani from dooku in AOTC. Idk man.. that seems stupid to not accept yoda fighting off dooku AS a defense. Attack can be a defense.. if he killed palps that would be a Defense in my mind too.

[@brandonalbaldon2781]

Love the passive aggressive energy this is how talking with the boys is like sometimes

[@rq4740]

The boys are passive aggressive??Nah bro

[@Red_Ring_Of_Death]

Ahahaha! Theory was fine with the description of Bad Batch from Mauler until Ryan added in his take and he shook his head like, “Dammit… That’s accurate…”. 🤣

[@AJ_M26]

I love TCW, parts of Rebels, and a lot of Filoni's animation work, but I still love listening to Ryan criticize Filoni and the Clone Wars, it is refreshing to hear a different opinion, but i don't allow it to take away from my enjoyment of it, MTFBWY Theory, Ryan, and Mauler!!!

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

^.-.^ Indeed. There are plenty of films and series that I enjoy which I can acknowledge are 'not well made", but I still enjoy. There are many episodes of TCW I am not a fan of, while others I absolutely love. Being able to acknowledge the ones that aren't good, allows me to appreciate the ones which Are good even more. Without the ability to recognize and admit when something is bad, we would have no means to understand what makes something good. ^.-.^

[@CHIEFLUKE101]

That Mariana person needs to get out of her safe space. People have opinions and she's going to have to deal with it

[@RyuPlaneswalker]

One of the Major problems that Mandalorian has in the end of season 2 is that they completely punted on the Emotional Moment of "Mandalorian takes his helmet off to say goodbye to Grogu" by having them make a joke about him having to take his helmet off 2 episodes before that. Like it was such a low bar to do that moment correctly and they couldn't manage it without making it into a joke that how can you trust the writers and showrunners to take anything seriously.

[@BotterBro]

Love this series fellas! Watching yall makes me want to finally hop on youtube and join the fun 😂

[@cletup]

The Smeagol being a "cute kind of ugly" comment Theory said made me die of laughter

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

^.-.^ I liked Theory's misread of the superchat. 'I gave my Smegol a sister doll." I was rolling

[@VulgrDisplay]

If you can't handle someone criticizing something you like then get off the internet for your own mental health.

[@ChimpRiot]

Good dynamic. Theory is very optimistic, positive and hopeful. Ryan is total blackpill doomer and checked out. Mauler is the unbiased observer that knows the 6 Star Wars movies and nothing much else.

[@xplatypus516]

Doomer? It’s just accurate to this dead franchise, optimism doesn’t stop Disney’s propaganda

[@ChimpRiot]

@@xplatypus516 What’s your objection to ‘doomer’? I’m also blackpilled on Disney Star Wars. I just think it’s a good dynamic for discussion since they’re opposites.

[@R3G-7]

Mauler hating Blade Runner 2049 breaks my heart😭

[@jaeman8]

One of the most unhateable movies lol. Top 5 sci-fi movies easy

[@FeatherRanching]

JJ is the cinematic antichrist. After the apocalypse (assuming anything still exists at that time), I expect movie ratings will include "warning: graphic depictions of mystery boxes, viewer discretion is advised" where necessary.

[@DavidM_10]

I hated that James Bond died in the last movie. That left a stain on Craig's entire run for me. Bond is one of those characters who isn't *supposed* to die (ever, even heroically). He's a power-fantasy character. He's supposed win, and win in style, no matter the odds. He's similar to Batman. People get a buzz from seeing how awesome he is.

[@HerohammerStudios]

Pretty sure they just did it do they could make a female Bond sequel. Really only makes that stain worse

[@Aikurisu]

I'm with Mauler. Syril Karn is a fantastic character in Andor. He's the hero in his own story yet in reality he's just another cog in the machine. A nobody trying to make a difference. That, honestly, is more endearing than your typical 'hero' nowadays. He's almost like Luke Skywalker when he was a whiny brat, still stuck working for his uncle on that moisture farm.

[@gorbie_8139]

FFS, Theory! So annoying when you mumble through a super chat (which you seem to be doing more). You just drop off the end of the sentence! As my mother would say - read it properly or don't read it at all!

[@ioncewasmikey]

Can we watch the spoilers, guys? Please? I had NO IDEA Jumbo Kabob was in Bad Batch S3!

[@heikira438]

46:15 I love when Mauler Gets Stuckmannized

[@michaelgonzalez4698]

Whi rver calls this an exho chamber didnt watch this show. I kove how you guys disagree and agree on things. Its not just 100% agree on everything.

[@iBeHampe]

This stream went on about 2 hours too long for Theory 😂 Bro was half asleep and seemed out of it for over an hour at the end!

[@TopShelfFandomVids]

I think he has trouble defending his views he sounds ridiculous every time they ask him why he believes what he believes and it isn’t only this stream

[@Apac12]

@@TopShelfFandomVids Bro went from just chillin with Josh talking about star wars to constantly having to defend his views, I don't see how he's having fun doing this

[@TopShelfFandomVids]

@@Apac12 ya this isn’t the best medium for him he isn’t a argumentative person He seems to be rather changeable even with views that it seemed like he held tight so I agree I am disappointed to see him come off as ignorant with his opinions but that could just be a issue that he isn’t fit for debating he doesn’t seem to be made for it, and as you said, this is essentially a debate every week there’s value in all Content so theory is best off working off of his optimism not against it

[@brovinafilms7774]

I actually agree with these takes - I really appreciated Theory when it was just a one on one with someone like Josh. Mauler and Ryan seem a little too one sided and further away from Theory’s fan base on this channel. I love hearing Theory but hate the position he’s being put on when on these newer live shows.

[@jonnywaldis8275]

@brovinafilms7774 But what's the point of sticking one's head in the sand and ignoring the situation? The franchise has largely been ruined and the people handling it have not produced anything worthwhile in a long time. Insisting that the same cooks who produced nothing but burned soup claiming it's great cuisine will turn this around seems like folly. That there's generally no counter to the criticism brought forth pretty much proves there's nothing to hold onto and it seems much healthier to acknowledge that and move on.

[@Ghost7065]

These 3 are great together 😂😂 "I'm typing. I need to work too"

[@Laat.Dovahkiin]

Was an hour late to the stream so now I'm back here immediately to watch the first hour

[@AIasparri23]

Theory’s level of optimism is admirable..shit one might say legendary, but feel like disney starwars is just a sisyphus effect.

[@Mark-Book]

Great stream! Though I must be hallucinating? For a few minutes I could swear I saw Ryan (the EU encyclopedia) show some compassion for a superchat? Must be something I ate. Again, great stream.

[@vellichor7676]

34:44 "Is there anything that George said about what is canon in Star Wars or what the intentions of Star Wars are that you've felt, nah, that's not true?" Yeah, I can think of a few. One being that George claimed Obi-Wan was more powerful than Vader when they fought in Episode IV. Doesn't gel with me. Also -- I'm unsure if this was actually said by George or not -- but I've been told that he said in his sequel trilogy Leia would have been revealed to truly be the Chosen One and also that Darth Maul would be shown to have survived. I don't want anyone being the Chosen One other than Anakin (weakens the first six films) and I've never been a fan of Darth Maul having survived, for any reason.

[@ByronTheDragonKing]

If mauler watches bad batch before CW I’m gonna cry. Why does he play with my emotions like this

[@yassver]

This is the funniest stream ever. I'm literally laughing out loud in public

[@heretic4763]

Bro you defending filoni and favreau sounds like a battered wife defending her abuser.

[@raulgomez8811]

Did Ryan’s forehead grow?

[@zonefreakman]

A disturbance in the forehead I sense.

[@MadScientistsAreJustEngineers]

No pharaoh crown

[@heikira438]

1:06:08 I love that Theory has an innocent mind 😂

[@EthanMallonee]

That chuckle at the end xD

[@josephavant8700]

X-Men 97 ended up being BAD ASS. This trio is nice Theory, hope you bring this back.

[@sepiroth426]

Ryan is an American Treasure and we should appreciate him more.

[@philiph2363]

Don’t change the name, star grift is perfect 😂

[@grahamgallacher4782]

Did Theory just confirm the Human Centipede plushy????

[@Roy_mustang7]

The Ryan's hair looks insane timeline timestamp -February 19th 2024

[@richter6699]

You're the man, Theory! Great stuff, love these podcasts

[@LaraA55]

I love it when the three of you have interesting discussions about the Prequels, and how you all think so highly of it. And I love the funny moments as well.

[@MarsVee123]

Gilroy should have thrawn and not Filoni! He would work so much better in Andor than in Ashoka

[@brandonaumiller3997]

I love tcw but there were like three or four times Ahsoka’s incredible story could’ve ended very organically. She could’ve died at Any point in the Clone Wars to drive Anakin further toward the Dark Side, she could’ve died during Order 66, and she could’ve died during her fight with Vader. But Dave just keeps plugging the life support back in, refusing to put his OC to rest smh

[@USALibertarian]

"Han shot first" is extremely important. First and foremost is because it makes zero sense for someone to shoot and miss from 18 inches.

[@kapitanbuggy]

maulers stuckmann impression had me dying

[@BrentSohlden]

Ryan Loses his mind is one of my all-time favorites of your streams. I'd like to see you, Lauren, Sawyerism, SW Santa, Ryan, MauLer, Darth Choco, and Stupendous Wave and my Master Darth Melvin have a big mixer. - Darth Galek "Brent Lee Sohlden Koivopolo V" "study3600", Vapaad Knight of Melvin, lover of The Acolyte, Mando3, BoBF, Kenobi, OG, PT, and ST Trilogies and Restructured Latter Day Saint and licensed HAM KE0KEG-73s!

[@megavide0]

2:27:50 "... Star Wars Rancher series..." // I'm pretty sure he means "Ranger"... like the "Rangers of the New Republic" project they were going to do with Cara Dune.

[@archabe]

Han shot first

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Han Shot, Full Stop. ^.-.^

[@archabe]

@@Beuwen_The_Dragon You are correct sir.

[@scottski02]

I hope you guys do a deep dive into the old EU. With Disney Wars being such trash, the three of you shooting the shit about the Thrawn trilogy or the New Jedi Order books would be great

[@ThatAccumulator]

Remember when theory promised Mauler/us that these streams wouldn’t be longer than 2 hours? That was Funny

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Just shows how much fun they are all having together. 'Time flies when you're having fun." ^.-.^

[@megavide0]

2:40:07 "... one of the best arcs in Tee-Cee-Double-You" // Why would anyone say "TCW"? I really don't understand... It's two syllables more than "The Clone Wars". Why not just say "Clone Wars" and save 3 f_

[@AMP88LP]

46:50 okay I have to know why stuckman is getting called out all over the place now. I haven't listened to him in years, but now drinker twice and here today I keep hearing him being called out 😂

[@AMP88LP]

Well okay then. Now I have my answer

[@alexstreet9470]

Hahaha Theory is so weird . Dudes always doing his own thing during the podcast and when him and Ryan disagree he starts asking him “who are you talking to” “what are you doing” Meanwhile the last 5 grifts he is barely there and no one asks him “hey what are you doing” Theory . Bro . You need therapy not theories .

[@Hello-bi1pm]

What are you talking about? 😮

[@jahprime6932]

I still can't believe they never approached Benicio Del Toro . He would've made the Sith terrifying , create amazing aliens and respected Lucas' legacy.

[@heikira438]

2:58:50 Now THAT'S different opinions lol

[@greensmannnn]

I wanna see hundreds of Jedi fight hundreds of Sith Cultists ⚔️🤺 and stuff like this back in starwars " It is obvious that this contest cannot be decided by our knowledge of the Force... but by our skills with a lightsaber." So we can see a display of knowledge that these sudo warrior monks possess revealing awesome force powers.

[@johnnyblade1557]

Ryan came in guns blazing lol. Someone must have screwed up his fast food order again.

[@greenirez2798]

I don’t think y’all need to change the name, Star Grift is a great name. Theory already had a show called Rule of Two and this show is different enough the name change isn’t necessary. Also yes please have Nerdrotic on sometime, Real BBC and Open Bar are some of my favorite shows, so having Gary on Star Grift will complete the trifecta of my fav hosts being on here (considering Drinker already guested once).

[@Malt0d3xtr1n]

I think what I see from Dave that Theory appreciates is a love of Star Wars and its characters, which is the one thing I will say Dave has that is good. He knows and loves the characters. Unfortunately, I don't think Dave has the talent or intelligence to craft good stories and do the characters he loves justice. Every time he touches these characters, it feels like a grown man playing with his favorite toys.

[@PickledShark]

I’m calling it right now, Mauler is gonna think TCW is shit.

[@DrEnginerd1]

My favorite part was baby boy ryan. I webbed all over myself.

[@Cmdr_Sinclair_B5]

I flipping love this show!

[@michaeld.uchiha9084]

HELL YEAH finaly its getting spicy. Love it Well Yoda stoped the Rocks and Doku force pulled them. YODA easy stoped them. So yeah Power of the force should be between what Theory and Ryan said.

[@mattchooblink]

This is my new favorite pod

[@neil8964]

i want some of ryans energy 🔥

[@FinnishedThirdMusic]

Jaundice Theory MVP

[@Hammudiii]

🤣

[@protalghulnist4126]

53:50, 1:44:10, 2:58:55, 3:02:30, 3:36:55

[@rl00668]

Bro, Barris in the Ahoska show? That would mean that yet another Jedi survived order 66. Its just gotten ridiculous. Keeps taking away from established lore.

[@HerohammerStudios]

Order 66 never happened. It was obviously Jedi propaganda

[@mala6238]

​@@HerohammerStudiosmission failed

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

1:52:56 No way! I already got him pegged for Darth Vitiate. Especially with his performance as the Master Vampire in Drakula Untold.

[@blacktrudeau2806]

" its a madam that webs" killed me lmaoooooooooo

[@megavide0]

2:28:47 "I think *The Mandalorian* would have been a much better series is _Baby Yoda_ would not have been in it." // At first I thought so, too. They could have made it a story of _pure badassery_ ... They could still do that. Why not produce a Mando prequel series..? With the dude just straight on bounty hunting... maybe show how he got the Razor Crest and stuff. Grogu is a Disney character. They may have overdone it with the cuteness... to the point of silliness, sometimes. But actually it's quite a neat story idea to have a Mandalorian foundling overcome his trauma and solitude by slipping into a father role and finding a family of sorts... Grogu is a cool idea, although I'm not sure if the direction they took with the little guy looks promising. (Why not just let him stay with Luke and Ahsoka? That's where he belongs. Why not let Din Djarin visit sometimes?)

[@verazollinger6862]

I really like dinamic of theory and Mauler. One more analytical but boy do I feel with theory so much - not always able to put my feelings in words

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

I'm definitely not the most eloquent person with me words, so I feel him too. But I am glad he can acknowledge something can be objectively poorly made, even if he enjoys it subjectively. So many people are incapable of doing that ^.-.^

[@acbagel]

Jedi Apprentice series and the follow up series were phenomenal. Huge part of what made me fall in love with reading growing up. Life changing series of books for me.

[@firebreathingcow]

Ryan would be an excellent Vegeta