THE ACOLYTE REVIEW W MAULER RYAN AND THEORY - STAR GRIFT

[@FriendlyDarkwraith]

Now that Theory has finally joined the Dark Side, he needs a new name. Henceforth, he shall be known as... Star Wars Man.

[@IDieHardForever]

The merging of the RLM and THEORY to create STAR WARS MAN is the most fun I've had in weeks. I must have rewatched Theory's (sorry, starwarsman's) reaction like 4 times lol😂

[@Ally.Cat.252]

Lmao

[@ExarKun0]

Wtf you mean Dark Side? Our side is the Light Side, we are the Rebels against Disney Empire.

[@rickybobby9886]

I left your channel for a couple years. I was like why is this guy who I like simping for Disney. I came back to your channel when you came to your senses. This is not star wars. Hence forth you shall be known as Darth liberator.

[@rickybobby9886]

@@ExarKun0 true

[@anasol772]

Theory: "I just want to love Star Wars again." Disney: "We hate you. Go away. Fans like you are the worst."

[@JimP-tc7gg]

I think Theory has done more than enough to give the Disney projects a chance. There would be no shame in just ceasing to cover them altogether. He’s been doing it for so many years and it’s obviously starting to wear him down.

[@yvngsn0w]

yea you are

[@anasol772]

@yvngsn0w I personally gladly take the label. I'd rather have good stories than accept slop because it has a name on the can. Star Wars and Disney need to change or go away for ten to twenty years until everyone forgets how bad they've become.

[@All2Meme]

"Osha and Mae will always be Force-kin." I never knew I could spit soda that far...

[@zionharris9432]

Took me a sec, good job dawg😂

[@dereklopez9060]

The Acolyte is so incomprehensible, It's frustrating to see all of these valid criticisms being brushed aside and dismissed as "haters, toxic, racists" by shills who just accepts anything with the Star Wars logo labeled on it without question and silence those who call out bad writing and inconsistencies. Also, Star Wars has become such a cameo fest, it get's boring after a while.

[@Red_Ring_Of_Death]

“The Acolyte is so incomprehensible.” should be the main review quote on the back of The Acolyte Season 1 Blu-Ray no one will ever buy.

[@Red_Ring_Of_Death]

I was actually excited to see Thrawn for the first time in live action. As soon as I saw him I was like, “Why is Thrawn fat?” I love Lars Mikkelsen. The visual of Thrawn for the first time was a massive disappointment. They should have gone with The Thrawn Trilogy for the sequel trilogy. They would have if they actually gave a damn about what George Lucas created.

[@richardcrafton3711]

You say that almost as if they haven't been doing it since The last Jedi. I lost count of the number of times I heard people online say "if you don't like it, the only possible reason is because you hate seeing women in power. You just want your heroes to be right"

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

Have you seen the pitch meeting for the acolyte? 😂

[@quanganhvu6791]

They even lost Grace Randolph by the end. Enough said.

[@jebo4jc]

You all nailed it. Acolyte was not only boring but also broke the lore. Long time SW fans are upset.

[@fredflux2738]

It’s incompetent- just like its parent company.

[@dumdumer892]

It’s a part of the Kenobi timeline in my mind. Neither of these shows seem like actual canon to me.

[@Molhedim]

broke the lore how?

[@kiki42719]

It broke 0 lore. Legends is not canon. You can debate all you want but its not oficial canon. Period.

[@UntitledtotheGrave]

@@kiki42719 It broke the canon lore of 1000 years of peace. The Phantom Menace is not legends.

[@richardcrafton3711]

I haven't really kept up with Theory's channel since the last Star grift, he just seems so sad about it all, It seems like he's finally caught up with the rest of us.

[@fredflux2738]

Literally destroying his revenue source and what he is passionate about- he pivoted well, I like his direction.

[@nicolasacosta1673]

​@fredflux2738 Yea it's really commendable that he didn't shill out like so many others and stood his ground and spoke from the heart.

[@Unicornpirate]

@@nicolasacosta1673 Don't get it twisted...the guy is still a massive Filoni shill and think Filoni will "save" SW.

[@RaikenXion]

YES! I been saying this for time, like who would've thought 2 years ago, theory would do a livestream sharing opinions and really just hearing the other side, with starwars youtubers like RKinel and Mauler. this is what great, balanced discussions are truly about, different sides, all sharing their views and debating in a civil manner, and able to just have a laugh and banter too. Admitted I never liked Josh, cause he always came off as butt kissing, and he was also a massive "Reylo" round 2018 after last jedi happened. then once he joined up with theory, he like suddenly changed his tone, prob realizing just how big the "Backlash" truly was.

[@richardcrafton3711]

@@RaikenXion I followed Mauler over here the first time that I saw them live together, so I don't know about all the channel history. That being said, I agree with you completely, it's great seeing people just have an honest conversation and joke around, while continuing to mutually respect each other. No one is calling the other person, a child or a bigot or alt-right or accusing them of dog whistling, just a nice civil discussion about the reality of the franchise we all care about. It's a breath of fresh air in this modern discourse.

[@B_Man99]

Great to have Star Wars Man himself on StarGrift! Another W Having mauler and Ryan back on, you 3 have a good dynamic

[@thesaltmerchant4564]

They really do I lean towards agreeing with maulr and Ryan more but I really like theory's role with them as a trio

[@mikeexits]

Theory is Luke, Ryan is Mace Windu, and MauLer is... Han Solo? Someone help me out here.

[@johnnyreb6606]

Id say mauler is a more mace windu and i would say ryan is more of an in between like obi wan ​@@mikeexits

[@B_Man99]

@@mikeexits mauler has to be kenobi, you know how sassy kenobi is lol

[@RaikenXion]

@@thesaltmerchant4564 I like their dynamic too, theory is really starting to see the other viewpoints now thanx to these guys. I understand in comment sections you have to sift through so much ignorant takes, to get to a based, or just like thought-provoking argument. And for starwars youtubers, most hardly ever really step outside of their own echo-chamber because, ofcourse they get so used to the particular audience they've spent so long cultivating; which is honestly understandable.

[@Reasonist]

The fundamental issue I think Disney lost the plot on is; if you’re going to nuke the past (IP/Lore/Continuity) to in their mind ‘secure the future’, you can’t expect the ones who came on board with Lucas’s vision in years past (and over multiple generations) to respect the future Disney thinks is worth creating.

[@Reasonist]

And Disney commits itself to having the same action taken against it by generations of supposed fandom to come.

[@chadfinnerud6168]

Star wars died when Lucas sold. I'm almost 50. Lost all faith. It's all garbage. Way to go disney

[@Riotmedic009]

They despise the old audience. They chase the mythical "modern audience".

[@fredflux2738]

It’s the most interesting way to burn $4 billion dollars..

[@Reasonist]

@@fredflux2738 well when you’re in Jonestown the coolaid is the blood of Christ.

[@rickyressel9263]

Man, I feel for Theory. He looks so defeated. Like for the first time he’s lost hope. It’s a tough place to be with your favorite IP.

[@TH__.]

you feel sorry for a millionaire and the biggest Star Wars youtuber on the platform?

[@ghoulsome9483]

​@@TH__.What does that have to do with anything? I can feel things for people who are better off than me

[@dynamite_dynamite5954]

@@TH__.Does someone having success make them less human? What kind of childish take is this?

[@JimP-tc7gg]

@@TH__.a self-made millionaire is a big difference. He wasn’t just gifted a load of cash by bank of mum and dad.

[@sigy4ever]

@@TH__. yes

[@Nastuf]

The way Lesile answered those questions I would say I am 70% sure the script is AI assisted.

[@happytrails151]

Leslie doesn't even know what she wrote. She is making it up in her head as she goes along

[@anyaabusable9888]

"Assisted."

[@AJ_M26]

Superchat: Why are you selling sequel sabers if you don't like them? Theory: We cater to everyone. Mauler: Do you get many sales for those? Theory: No LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL i'm dying

[@timewarpdrive77]

Thats a very respectable position.. unlike a certain mouse

[@phillyskyguy9535]

I got a Ani 3 from Theory Sabers, but it is honestly cool hearing Kylo's lightsaber with it

[@pimpinkeen19]

Who else feels like Ryan and mauler say they don't have time to talk with theory but they talk to each other?

[@Unicornpirate]

Theory speed running through super chats with a stone cold expression is such a contrast to what I'm used to with EFAP

[@JimP-tc7gg]

I don’t blame him. Mauler and Ryan were being complete cunts to him the entire stream. He probably just wanted it to be over. He’s usually very respectful and appreciative of super chats.

[@revolversnake126]

@@JimP-tc7gg to be fair i dont know what he is like in his own stuff but i have seen every star grift episode and it has always been like that lol

[@JimP-tc7gg]

@@revolversnake126 I tuned into a couple of Ryans videos and he basically just screamed FUCK and DEI into the camera over and over again. If his audience love it then fair play haha

[@revolversnake126]

@@JimP-tc7gg oh sorry my comment was refering to theory

[@denkerbosu3551]

​@@JimP-tc7gg sounds like you have an issue here, not any of the hosts.

[@sab3redg333]

You know I really enjoy all the secondary content spawned by the acolyte. Its almost incomprehensible that lesliye headland has not been given an Olympic medal for these mental gymnastics. Like seriously you have to train to get that kind of spins and flips

[@lerojo]

She's a far left extremist. It comes natural to her.

[@michaelhixson6939]

Oh, she did train. Headland trained herself to rationalize her part in Harvey Winestein's behavior.

[@VenomSlash108]

D23 is like 2 weeks away. What will Lucasfilm announce? 😂😂😂. What will make fans excited? Will there be boos to Kathleen Kennedy?

[@fredflux2738]

I hope they boo KK- at this point though, there is so much damage.

[@Itchyknuckles]

They will announce 4 projects that will never get made and push Grogu and Mando HARD, maybe some Ray Palpatine news but that's it

[@phillyskyguy9535]

​@@fredflux2738they didn't cheer for her last year when they were talking about Indian Jones 5

[@JustAPlayOnWords]

This reminds me how much I miss Star Grift Mondays, but I love seeing the one-off special!

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

Never no maybe hopefully we’ll get more one off specials on subjects

[@FactoryDan]

That long awkward pause at 1:07:07 is probably why they can't make this a weekly show. They don't seem as friendly and chatable as they do with their other normal podcast groups

[@JimP-tc7gg]

Yeah I don’t see this arrangement continuing. They aren’t genuine friends and it’s painful to watch.

[@Beaumo66]

@@JimP-tc7gg yea uncomfortable indeed.

[@TheBastardsNetwork]

Yeah. You can't feel the chemistry. Some moments are hard to hear and you feel they push through alot even though Ryan and MauLer want to be more honest but don't want to hurt Theory's feelings.

[@momkeptmytoys]

This is why Josh was perfect

[@FactoryDan]

@@REIGHIEZ I watch FNT and The GandG one. As well as EFAP. Yeah, they just seem a little off their game here with Theory

[@rsh8057]

I don't want to hear STar Wars Theory yapping about the Acolyte, I want Star Wars Man to rage!

[@JimP-tc7gg]

He said it himself, he’s bored of talking about it. So much so, even finding the energy to rage about it is a struggle.

[@IDieHardForever]

@rsh8057 rage helps nothing. That is the path to the Darkside and would discredit him. He has maintained his honor thus far.

[@RaikenXion]

@@JimP-tc7gg Yeh most of us call that "Apathy".

[@RaikenXion]

tbh I'd honestly like theory to just do more of those spoof, meming little vi shorts mocking things like the Acolyte. where he plays multiple parts and have ridiculous wigs on and stuff for the characters. Can you imagine theory in a Rick James wig dressed up as OshaMae?

[@JimP-tc7gg]

@@RaikenXion Definitely agree here. He actually looks like is enjoying himself way more and people respond well to that.

[@Christommyfmx]

Catching this late but I needed this holiday special

[@Aikurisu]

I concur. My favourite channel on YT would be about Ryan merely geeking out over the REAL Star Wars. I'm actually kind of jealous I wasn't American and serving in the navy back when he was assigned to that aircraft carrier and in his downtime was regaling lore to his fellow shipmates. That just sounded like too much dang fun and I miss that element of the fandom dearly.

[@jtrillz3953]

WE LOVE STAR GRIFT 😤

[@JimP-tc7gg]

I don’t. It’s painfully obvious that they aren’t a great fit for each other. Watching mauler and Ryan basically gang up on Theory wasn’t my idea of entertainment.

[@Markuswaters]

I really appreciate this combo. You three together produce a really great product because you each have different levels of passion about different components: Mauler focused on the character writing, Theory focused on the lore, Ryan focused on the culture war. All of you take part in what the others focus on, but together you make an excellent team. Iron sharpening iron!

[@aesiddoway]

Ryan’s jabs at Filoni will always be appreciated. Let the hate flow in you, Theory!

[@daniellehain5291]

It's hard to see theory have the realisation of how star wars has really hit the downward slope along with his passion of it. Been watching SWT for YEARS now and it's a shame how disney really has torn the passion out of so many older fans as its just not the same anymore.

[@kevo-o-o]

Glad to see the boys back together for a fun time ripping apart whatever the Acolyte is.

[@connormoorerocks]

seeing Theory realise that he's falling out of love with Star Wars is truly sad, wanna give bro a hug

[@Wyszyncygan]

But he still won't find a normal job and will complain for money

[@Wyszyncygan]

@@nuttproductions461 not exactly as being a critic requires you to also be able to acknowledge positive things and look at things objectively. Theoty isn't even close to being a critic. He nitpicks dumbest of things just to create more negative narrative because he is a ragebaiter with poor taste.

[@connormoorerocks]

​@@Wyszyncygan Tell me you enjoy dogshit writing in woke media without telling me.

[@DisneyStarWarsSucks]

Theory nitpicks cause he’s not a good critic compared to mauler and other people he just breaks down Star Wars cause he’s a huge fan while posting on KZbin and plus he gets more views when Star Wars is releasing good stuff like mando he’s just a huge SW fan that isn’t a good critic but still posts on YT and I like that

[@DisneyStarWarsSucks]

That’s why I think theory gets hate he isn’t a good critic and you can easily tell he just wants good Star Wars that’s why I think people like generation tech or eckardsladder are better they do talk about shows but they don’t get into the critics nearly as much as theory they just only talk about the Star Wars

[@shawnshawn6134]

i just screamed in my car:"theres 3 seasons of a Batwoman show?!" did they literally hide it in a blackhole? ive NEVER even heard of it. my mind is blown.

[@IDieHardForever]

Regarding Mando 2 - yes the whole point was we were saying goodbye to Grogu and re-introducing other things but all focused on getting Grogu to his people. They succeeded by working together. And then they blew it halfway through Book of Boba Fett

[@HerohammerStudios]

Retroactively making it completely pointless...

[@HectorLopez0217]

Wolverine’s bones are coated in adamantium but not his nerves found out when Randy Orton asked if Stormbreaker could decapitate Logan

[@revolversnake126]

randy orton?

[@HectorLopez0217]

@@revolversnake126 wrestler in Wwe famous for the RKO outta nowhere memes and beefing with Solja boy that one time

[@revolversnake126]

@@HectorLopez0217 yea i just dont understand how he is relavant to wolverine. because rko tragets the head?

[@HectorLopez0217]

@@revolversnake126 He asked on Twitter if Thor’s axe could chop off Logan’s head and the conclusion was he would need to aim in between the neck bones because Adamantium has Vibranium in it which we see deflect Mjolnir in Avengers

[@CplYakob]

19 minutes. 19 minutes is all SWT could be bothered to do on the Acolyte on this SW focused podcast.

[@peytonabrams1820]

Been waiting for this

[@BMN667]

Not trying to shift any blame off Jon Favreau, or ESPECIALLY Dave Filoni, but from everything I've researched it appears that Jon took a HUGE creative step back after the success of Mando S1 & S2. The firing of Gina Carano, the forced implementation of Mando in TBOBF, the higher ups at Lucas Film suddenly taking such a massive interest in the series and the potential spin-offs surrounding it, and most notably the addition of Rick Famuyiwa as an Executive Producer on Mando S3. After Mando S2 it just felt like Jon was CONSTANTLY being strongarmed into making creative concessions. The insanely high level of oversight they put on his work, after it was deemed a success, was probably maddening. In situations like that I totally understand how apathy can set in, and why he was so much more hands off with Mando S3.

[@Brewbuu]

I appreciated the acolyte, Deadpool & Wolverine and the other over all discussions about specific topics and I’m glad these 3 came together for another episode of Star Gift but man I wish they would’ve chatted a little while longer about the acolyte before getting into super chats.

[@toddstone230]

Unfortunately, Theory is a pretty good guest at other peoples shows. But when he's hosting his own show, he doesn't seem like he can handle long conversations without ending them abruptly for something else like Super. Chats

[@Beaumo66]

I do agree he should organize the Superchats as he goes. Do a few as they come in

[@mattchooblink]

This conversation kinda died down but it picks back up again. Also Ryan should do what theory suggested, the lore channel, that’d be awesome. (Waves hand) “You will do star grift again.” 1:53:20 props to you for playing it live This conversation got real spicy towards the end lol i love it

[@josephsk8737]

I thought it might be years until another episode of this but the acolyte has brought us all back together!

[@legoman7041]

I hope they do this again, but I feel like an agenda or powerpoint slides with discussion topics might be helpful.

[@JimP-tc7gg]

Nah, I think Theory is at his best when collaborating one on one, where there is mutual respect. It’s pretty clear these guys aren’t friends and was a drag to watch as a result.

[@nickegbg]

THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN

[@ElieLaRock1]

Ryan seemed irritated with Theory’s input or lack there of. Theory has been on other shows now. He should have learned by now to make a list of talking points so there won’t be awkward moments where no one is talking. Mauler and Ryan deserve a better cohost.

[@JimP-tc7gg]

Fair criticism for Theory to include more structure on the talking points. At the same time however, Mauler and Ryan weren't exactly the friendliest of guests. They dont gel particularly well together in my opinion.

[@Unicornpirate]

Because Theory is still holding onto Dave Filoni and is all about key jangling. Ryan and Mauler tried to show him on previous Star Grift that its not gonna get better and same when appearing with Drinker. Mauler threw the salt to Theories wound at 19:37. Ryan said he doesn't like TFA and Mando season 1 and 2 which Theory LOVES. He says its a tough pill to swallow for him. He isn't on the same boat as Ryan and Mauler. They both know its not gonna get better. Theory still think it is. But hey he's gotta sell his garbage lightsabers somehow and fund his forgettable fan fiction so its like watching a kid touch a hot stove over and over again not learning his lesson. Only thing is any other kid is smart enough to see not to do it again. Theory is for people who like the name Star Wars. Mauler and Ryan is for the people who like stories Star Wars created.

[@ifu138]

I just don't think he's very bright tbh... Not that the other two are the height of intelligence or anything but it's very awkward having to hear them explain basic concepts to him lol

[@JimP-tc7gg]

@@ifu138 whats concepts was he struggling with?

[@Unicornpirate]

@@ifu138 He isn't very bright at all. Outside of Star Wars, DBZ, and Harry Potter, he is completely clueless about anything going on in Hollywood, the mainstream media, other movies, TV shows, books, videogames, news.

[@coolkid9454]

Was it just me or was the vibe off? MauLer and Ryan seemed like they had places to be and were just waiting for the stream to be over. Theory seemed a bit down but was still trying to make conversation but MauLer and Ryan would give like a 2 word response.

[@JimP-tc7gg]

Yeah I think everyone noticed this. Ryan in particular was being a bit of a dick with snarky responses.

[@jebblottin92]

It has more or less to do with the fact they have talked about the Acolyte extensively already on Open Bar with Critical Dinker when the episodes were releasing weekly. So really there was nothing more to say than give just overviews and updates from interviews posted to online news articles. I don't think they were wanting to necessarily leave, but there was nothing else to really discuss. It's kinda why they jumped over to Deadpool and Wolverine pretty quickly because they hadn't discussed that movie yet. Hate to say it but Theory should try to branch out beyond Star Wars, if not for his career but for his own mental well-being. He could absolutely bring his own insight to other IPs until Star Wars returns.

[@coolkid9454]

@@jebblottin92 I was watching some parts again and that’s true. They should’ve done the stream right after the acolyte finished but Ryan and MauLer had other stuff going on i think. But hopefully they’ll do more streams in the future, cuz Star Grift is my favorite

[@ElieLaRock1]

20 minutes in Theory said he was tired of talking about The Acolyte. You could tell that irritated Ryan and Mauler who were there to talk about the show. Why even bother doing a stream?

[@boletop6204]

@@ElieLaRock1 ryan wanted to talk about it but god knows what theory even wanted with this stream since he hit the superchats red button asap again

[@TheDaddi27]

This was great to see men, talk and have their own thoughts and opinions and agree on some things, agree to disagree on some things, and disagree on things and they still are Kool at the end of the day

[@JimP-tc7gg]

Men? Ryan and Mauler acted like sniggering high school kids throughout most of it.

[@JH-il4nv]

@@JimP-tc7ggi think you’re projecting very heavily 50mins in, whilst reading comments as i go, all i see is ryan and mauler shitting on star wars projects whilst theory is simply depressed by the state of star wars. Theory agrees with alot of the points because it’s bad. If it gets worse as i continue i could change my mind but atm it just seems that you dislike how little theory is talking compared to the others.

[@JamesFodor]

I've been looking forward to this...

[@HugoArgentina]

I got acquainted to your channel thanks to Ryan and Mauler. You're a good dude!

[@TheTurbineEngineer]

Dude I love the intro

[@promcheg]

5:55 I see this in 90% of current Space Opera books. The author doesn't bother with Space. Transportation is often a matter of getting into a ship and getting out at the destination. Destination often isn't even placed into some spatial context. 95% Of Space Opera also has unrestricted FTL communication with unlimited bandwidth, so the protagonist could call her mother. Most modern Space Operas could be placed in a tiny city without losing anything. Moving from one bar to another in an average small city would take longer than those characters visiting planets on opposite sides of the Galaxy (stars ignored, just unrelated planets).

[@MasterBendu]

Happy 8th year anniversary @StarWarstheory keep up the great work mad respect 🫡

[@slash903]

"There's no door for them to walk through. So, they shoot themselves in the head." That is the perfect encapsulation of Game of Thrones.

[@RogerRoger15]

Mauler is taking the deadpool movie way too seriously, who in the world went into this thinking it was going to right the wrongs of time travel in marvel, its literally just meant to be a fun movie and thats it. Getting annoyed and worked up because it isn't some oscar worthy comic book comedy that rights all the wrongs of the last 5 years is just absurd. If this was a new avengers movie i would get it but a 3rd deadpool movie? give me a break man, live a little.

[@JimP-tc7gg]

100% this right here. Both Mauler and Ryan for that matter seem to take things way too seriously sometimes.

[@MildandLazyGuy]

You think Kathy ever goes and makes some coffee or some copies to get those creative juices flowing again like those good old days?

[@Aikurisu]

Glad folks are starting to connect the dots. Yes, Kennedy hasn't helped Star Wars exist in any meaningful way, neither has Iger, yet I consider them more like figureheads than anything else. It's who's beneath those two we should be more concerned about, and that includes Filoni and Hidalgo. They've been in such positions of power for ages now when it comes to storytelling and look where the franchise has ended up this past decade. And let's not forget the times Filoni has been on record for condescendingly slapping down fans who spoke up about terribly written characters like Rey and so on. And if rumours are to believed he's been upset with that side of the fandom since a certain orange man became president, going so far as to say that they would refashion the Star Wars franchise so that an event like that would never happen again. Don't know about you, but that would explain so much, given SW's current situation. Let's face it, George made a mistake when he made Filoni his Number 2. If only Tartakovsky didn't turn down the honour when he was given it, granted he was George's first pick for the job.

[@DukeBluedevil70]

I think Theory seems like a nice guy, but the Star Grift episodes (before the show sort of ended) were difficult to get through to say the least. Seemed like either not everyone was clicking or Theory wanted Ryan and Mauler to carry the show while he put in minimal effort. I hope I don't regret giving this stream another shot.

[@JimP-tc7gg]

There was fault on both sides. Theory didn't provide enough structure to the stream, making the conversation more difficult. At the same time however, Mauler and Ryan relentlessly giving him shit over and over again must have been pretty demotivating. I'm not interested in further collaboration if these sorts of vibes continue.

[@Laundry_boi]

Good to see you guys together again

[@JimP-tc7gg]

Not so sure Theory would agree…

[@lostscott9912]

Theory needs a hug man

[@Joseph_Hornreich]

My favorite podcast returned! These guys introduced me to the glory of the nerdotic channel and I can’t love em all enough!

[@michaels1109]

found you because of Mauler and Ryan on drinkers channel! I am glad i did! you do good work! And i know it all hurt right now we feel your pain all real star wars fans have the same pain people using star wars for their own means! like this last show it was all about her dreams and wants and she knows almost nothing about star wars and acts like she does know! And star wars has always been a great story the space ships and wars are all secondary to the great story and if you look at all these people writing it now! They all just write like this oh lets remake that lets use this and copy lets take from other sci fi shows and put it into this! Nothing they do is just a new story to add to what was there it's just hacky writing and badly done! and last thing Jedi are the heroes sith are evil!!!!!!!!!!!! The end you can't write it any other way! Star wars is about good vs evil hollyweird doesn't get good they think evil is good why they can't write and have other connect with it

[@sigy4ever]

FMK bit with mauler prodding and theory being unwilling to answer was hilarious

[@JimP-tc7gg]

The two of them just bullied theory like high school kids, throughout most of the stream. I’d much rather watch people who like each other.

[@a.r.mproductions5616]

Theory didn’t want to talk so why the heck did they do this show?

[@grimly105]

So happy to see this trio back together.

[@kins1894]

Guys ppl will always say, and I include myself in it, watching YT videos talking about The Acolyte, like you guys, is far more entertaining that the show itself

[@GregScholfield]

Star Wars Man, Star Wars Man, does what a man in Star Wars can!

[@thedoobieshrew0244]

Hail to the Star Wars man, Star Wars man, Star Wars man, Hail to the Star Wars man Star Wars-ing man!

[@BRONZALiVE]

I absolutely love Ryan’s brutal honesty when expressing his thoughts on things it’s actually refreshing to have somebody who speaks their minds freely. Obviously he means well but some people will get offended when he speaks 😂

[@Unicornpirate]

Theory definitely gets offended when Ryan talks to him about Filoni and its glorious

[@RaikenXion]

Ryan comes off as quite bitter though, I noticed 2:53:39 Ryan threw abit of shade at Theory, behaving and acting like he's got some other place to be. I appreciate Ryan's honesty too, but he does perpetuate the very "Stereotype" delusional KK and Disney have of most us Fans. Ryan never really gives any appreciation or positivity toward anything from these shows. As much as i hate the Acolyte, even i can be big enough to admit I found the lightsaber duels impressive, especially the one where Qimir takes on those Jedi, and Qimir vs Sol in the final episode. Most fans really like Mando Seasons 1 & 2, yet Ryan picks fault even with those, and I don't think i've heard him say anything good bout Andor either. I mean Ryan Kinel does represent the exact kind of starwars fan who Disney would just actively never pay attention too. I think alot of it though has to do with Ryan putting his energy into that whole movement by many of the oldskool Fans, I think it was a petition and they raised some money, to put up these giant billboards in one of the cities, some years back. Politiely asking Disney to restore the EU and allow authors to create new stories for the EU lore; and ofcourse Corporate Disney just flat out ignored their request. I think this really peed off Ryan Kinel from that point, which is why he just dogs on like EVERYTHING "Disney Starwars" now. I hate disney starwars it's truly not in a good place right now, and im just praying KK will not get her contract renewed, but just bow out end of this year. But even I will still keep open-minded, if say this December, and Skeleton Crew drops, by about the 5th Episode into that show, IF I heard Theory, Thor Skywalker, EBN and just majority of the fans all saying pretty much the same thing bout that show; that it's actually good and they're liking it overall; I would actually sign back up and give that show a chance. I don't just stay stuck in my hate like Ryan does. He's the type who will just watch every one of these shows, just to hate-watch them, and pick them apart. I never even bothered to watch the Acolyte, I had a bad feeling bout that show from the moment it was announced. But i've watched many reviews, Skyman universe's reaction videos, and clips of the actual lightsaber duel scenes and I like those. Ryan just stays bitter. when he talks about things, there's just like this tone of contempt in his voice how he speaks. I get the filoni argument, I see that dude as KK's "Acolyte" easy and I hope SWT fully wakes up to what he's about; but Ryan has been quite disrespectful toward Theory on his livestream here I feel.

[@KendrickEdits]

This panel is the most discouraged I've ever seen. It seems that apathy is starting to take effect

[@KingDavid675]

I love The Star Grift podcast but I get a sneaky suspicion that Ryan and Mauler don’t really like Theory

[@coolkid9454]

The vibe was definitely off. It was super low energy and it seemed like MauLer and Ryan were just waiting to get off and do their own stuff

[@JimP-tc7gg]

It was like watching two snarky high school kids gang up on another. The old saying still rings true. “Two is company but three is a crowd”… I don’t see Theory inviting them to join him next time.

[@Beaumo66]

@@coolkid9454 Yea after 45 mins in, it got weird.

[@markstenquist2315]

They like theory, they've just covered this material over and over again in other podcasts and there's not much new to say. That's why they strayed off topic a bunch of times. Theory also is bad at putting an agenda together for discussion topics.

[@casualduck7398]

@@coolkid9454 the vibe does feels like Theory doesn't have the energy and enthusiasm to talk about Acolyte, and Mauler and Ryan was like 'bruh we booked our time for this podcast to discuss this show and we just started'

[@gavinbagwell7358]

Dave Faloni is signing off on this probably because he doesn't want to be considered as "unwoke" or doesn't want to be cancelled. There is definitely more to the story.

[@gavinbagwell7358]

Minute 31, yes Theory, I completely agree!

[@TwoHanderVGC]

Mauler goading Theory on during the FMK section had my sides hurting from laughing so hard

[@CommanderBossk]

1:07:11 theory bro ily man but you can’t be hyping up this podcast and bringing in Ryan and Mauler and having no material or direction for the show. I get you just wanna hangout and talk but that’s not what they do when they get time to do a podcast. Again theory love you bro but you should really have some material ready before the show

[@SultanRehman]

Actually Accolyte was better than Ahsoka in one aspect - the fight scenes. But then both had horrible, incomprehensible scripts. Interesting both had a couple of actors who carried the show. I've always maintained Filoni is very much part of the "swamp". He's just been better at being an impostor.

[@bethanyjohnson8001]

Yes! Filoni is not as good a writer as everyone thinks he is.

[@SolarDragon007]

​@@bethanyjohnson8001 He's not a good writer at all. He's a hack, and always has been.

[@connorcurry5040]

The houses in the UK are purposely built to keep all the heat that enters it in, thick walls insulation double glazed windows. Because of the cold winters we have, So when the temperature rises above anything above average of 19 it feels abnormally hot. When we have 30 degree weather it feels like 40+ it’s horrendous we don’t have ac

[@manoz6194]

You can get protable units. My sister has one. I don't have enough room for one and being on the top floor when the heat rises is not fun.

[@mryellow6918]

​@@manoz6194 For an insane price of electricity

[@JimP-tc7gg]

At least you aren’t in Australia where they’ve convinced themselves that no insulation or double glazing is even necessary. Honestly their houses are built like complete shit and the winter months are awful. It often feels colder inside than out.

[@mryellow6918]

@@JimP-tc7gg so much better than just get warm tho than it is to cool down like just get in bed or put on a coat. But there's practically nothing you can do to get cold.

[@Gray_Box]

@@manoz6194 I live in a loft. It's essential equipment lol

[@newdgamer4118]

Man, I genuinely feel bad for Theory during these. The man just wants to love SW and have a reason to be excited for upcoming projects.

[@JimP-tc7gg]

@@newdgamer4118 I wonder if there is a part of him that was over it a long time ago but tries to keep it going for the sake of the channel. He said it himself, the passion isn’t what it used to be and I don’t blame him. Most average people just grow out of it and move on to something else. The IP is intended for children after all. I can’t see him doing this forever.

[@newdgamer4118]

@JimP-tc7gg the excitement for the new stuff certainly isn't lol. I think the EU has enough old content that he could go on perpetually, and if I recall correctly, he's even gone over interesting fanfics before. There's a decent sized Matrix exclusive channel that is still somehow pretty consistently putting out content, and that doesn't have half the lore of Star Wars. I'm not a long-time follower of Theory, so I haven't noticed if their is something else he's passionate enough about to pivot his channel.

[@RaikenXion]

@@JimP-tc7gg It's hard when you're a huge, passionate fan and *Star Wars* is a big part of your life. It's kinda like telling a massive Football fan, just grow out of it and move onto something else; what can they move onto if that's all they love? 🤷

[@bookvvorm]

Watching SWT go through all the stages of grief. 💔

[@Beaumo66]

Meh I don't think this should continue even 1 more time honestly.. It was hard to watch Ryan shake his head and disregard anything Theory said. Mauler is fine and enjoy him on the mic but Ryan just doesn't like Theory and it shows, kind of uncomfortable to watch after an hour in. I like the 2 Jays and Theory. I honestly think if a Weekly podcast is going to happen, that should be the Trio! Theory, Jay and Jay. Alot of Respect there. I love a difference in opinion but I love it all in respect to the other person, not just someone with their nose in the air like their shit don't stink.. Sorry Theory but I will say what I think I saw and the vibes someone was giving me, That's just how Ryan clearly came off and roaming through the comments, others think so as well.

[@JimP-tc7gg]

You summed up Ryan pretty well. Definitely has this weird air of arrogance around him, like his opinion is the only valid opinion. He must be painful to socialise with in the real world. Grade A Narcissist.

[@Beaumo66]

@@JimP-tc7gg Yea I never really watched him before he joined theory. I don't remember the last episode of Stargrift being like this.. I don't know it feels like they came in here to catch theory eating his words @ anytime so they could call him out for it and make him look like an idiot.. I know I've caught Theory doing that but, idk I know we are not the only ones who felt this, a bunch of us had to..

[@Unicornpirate]

@@Beaumo66 That's because Theory isn't very bright. Outside of Star Wars, he knows very little about anything. They call him out on it. And they are giving their opinion on Dave Failoni...Theory shills hard for him and he doesn't like that. Theory lives in a fantasy thinking Bob Iger will call him, have a discussion on how to fix Star Wars, bring in Sam Whittwer and Nick Gillard and Filoni to save it. Ryan and Mauler say shut it down for a decade and clean house and hire competent writers (not Theory). Theory is for people who like the name Star Wars. Mauler and Ryan is for the people who like stories Star Wars created.

[@Beaumo66]

Not speaking about the Content Disney is putting out, Or where Dave is allowing it to be taken.. That i've lost hope for but Like Theory, I had Hope. Myself and many of my Friends had hope and I got to this point on my own! My own opinions, not anyone elses, Not any other creators pushing me toward that and I don't judge Theory for that, I don't think he is any less 'Bright' for that. He is passionate about Star Wars for reasons from his Childhood sickness and hanging on to hope for Dave and LF way to long. I am speaking of how they came in and took everything he said, Ready to bully him.. I don't think you are any less of a star wars fan, or fan of Star Wars stories if you like or Dislike a certain Creator. You can Like anyone or Debate and disagree but still respect someone. Theory doesn't deserve to be trashed @ all.. Not like that! not like some of these videos and drama that he has delt with lately.. I've been a Star Wars fan before Disney owned it, even longer before that than disney has owned It.. I know fan Discourse has always been around and I love a good debate. I do understand that Theory can be Debated under certain circumstances and tore down. That being said, even if I were a huge huge fan of Theory @ one point, I am no shill. A few months ago I took my Sub back from his Channel. Because of some things that people can see in this live stream.. Some things in the past live streams that have made his opinion off in my eyes, even during some of the later Nerd Theory streams.. I had got to the point with SW's everyone else is and @ First stood for the Acolyte but lost me so fast. Theory also lost me and got to that point with him I have kept it respectful though. I've not called him Names, or disrespected his name or think he is dumb. I do understand he is keeping hope much longer than most of us.. But I did to and I don't know if he is over working himself and it's causing him some Memory issues or if he needs to get it checked out, but there is a lot of reasons through the last year or so, that pushed me to take a step back from Theory..

[@RaikenXion]

gotta agree, early on it wasn't to bad but past the halfway point, Ryan was really showing some direspect of Theory. SWT was being really cool about it too though, 2:55:35 Theory is reading out a superchat, and Ryan is just on his fone, and Theory kinda loses patience with Ryan abit, then Ryan was being a snarky f**ker saying "yeh i'm a busy dude". Busy huh Ryan? I don't see you running your own business, working on making your OWN "Fan Film". Ryan is either big time jealous of Theory's huge success, or he just really does not like him. I have not always agree with SWT on things, I even did tell him bout Filoni a while back; but I still respect the dude for what he's brought to the community, and that he always tries to hold onto "Hope" and stay positive. That's a heck of alot more than can be said for Ryan Kinel, who just stays hateful, never got a single good word to say bout anything. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if one day something comes out, some image or something of Ryan Kinel part of some Neo Nazi group or something; I know i shouldn't judge or assume, but I just get this vibe from Ryan Kinel that he's secretly part of some not too friendly party.

[@gregv2k]

Andor is spectacular. When it will get better is when Andor’s next season begins.

[@danielsaavedra8307]

The story of Mando season 2 was Din completing his quest to deliver Grogu to the Jedi. That was the quest he was given. Grogu was his foundling until he is able to deliver him to his people. Each cameo furthered that (except for Boba). Bo led to Ahsoka who led to Tython to contact a Jedi through the Force. That's when he was captured and the motivation changed to a rescue of Grogu.

[@Psyc1onus]

I just want Taskmaster hiring DeadPool to steal Pym Particles. Only Deadpool thinks they’re Pimp Articles!

[@nomavore6677]

Bring in Sebastian Stan and Mark Hamill to do Shadows of the Empire as a movie. CG Harrison and Carrie Fisher (RIP). It would be a cool compelling story that takes place in a time when Star Wars was still on top. Plus it's a great story!

[@heikira438]

Mauler, Ryan and Star Wars Man.

[@DIGITALSANDBOX]

I just finished watching Battlestar Galactica (2004) it is to acolyte what Jurassic park is to Barney.. BSG is so good!

[@betonde]

Been looking forward to this more than the actual show

[@HeavyMorals]

So benign sexism is when your father try’s to make sure you stay on the straight and narrow and not make the same mistakes he made? I get having overbearing parents, but that’s not what they’re talking about. My brain cells are dying by the dozens just trying to comprehend this.

[@leonais1]

Is it benign sexism when a mother does it? Just what was she thinking?

[@Vertical_Horizons]

What Leslye LEGOheadland was saying in that scene was kill the patriarchy even if it's a caring father figure 😬 That's truly disturbing 🚩🚩🚩

[@fredflux2738]

Lesley is complicit in a crime in real life, she also is personally and professionally motivated by her sexuality. The core issue, this is a piece of entertainment made by a person who was never qualified or right for the project. All roads lead to Kathleen Kennedy, until that is addressed- this will continue to happen.

[@abujordan8405]

Theory always shits himself when Ryan and Mauler mention lesbian, or black lmao

[@WillStopka]

I with theory. I hate this feeling of not liking star wars as much under disney

[@crimsonpotemkin]

They wasted 180 mil to make a show specifically around one girl who can't even act one character and who had to half ass...no, quarter ass 2 characters at the same time.

[@xx_mojat_xx]

Damn Ryan just bursted straight outta the gate with a machine gun 💀

[@alban226]

Mae failed Qimir as an acolyte, so he tried again with literally the same person

[@phonepunk7888]

Favreau is the one who brought Jack Black and Lizzo into Star Wars. He thought that was a good idea.

[@tomoflathead]

Been like 2 weeks since the season ended and I haven’t thought about it since…until this vid reminded me 😭

[@Simbabweman]

I have nothing good to say about the aclolyte so: Air con wise in the UK - we can buy air con if we want but the majority of people dont have it because the UK is generally cold. We do get hot times, summer has been getting warmer and warmer reaching average highs of maybe 30 degrees Celsius at worst but it varies e.g. south if england is much warmer than scotland up north. If its hot, many people invest in a decent tower fan or something like that which is basically all we need. Sometimes it gets unbearably hot but these days are rare so we just complain and get on with it. We dont get earthquakes, tornadoes or anything like that over here. We're generally a very safe place in terms of natural disasters/climate/weather etc.

[@danjoseph7515]

Elon doesn't have to buy all of Disney. He's got way more than enough to buy Lucas. And, unlike current Disney, he could easily make money off of it by just giving the fans what they are starving for - decent Star Wars.

[@tarquinjanis5918]

This is the truth. I like how real Mauler is. Great addition!

[@JimP-tc7gg]

Mauler yes, Ryan...not so much.

[@tarquinjanis5918]

Idk I kinda like em too

[@DmanDominate]

By the end Mauler seemed like he didnt want to be there :/

[@JimP-tc7gg]

Both Mauler and Ryan didn’t want to be there. Spent most of the stream bullying theory like bratty little high school kids. Was embarrassing.

[@DmanDominate]

@@JimP-tc7gg im not sure I would go that far buut it did seem a lil more agreasive than usual lol. They were pretty quiet during super chats and Mauler dodging Theory coming on efap bummed me out

[@SolarDragon007]

​@@JimP-tc7ggIf only Theory had anything remotely intelligent or interesting to contribute to the conversation. I guess it's too hard to pay attention to your co-hosts or prepare points before going on a stream. Why do that when you can just sit there with vacant eyes and blandly read superchats?

[@JimP-tc7gg]

@@SolarDragon007 None of these chumps are intellectuals. Theory provides light entertainment for Star Wars nerds and when these two aren’t involved, it works. If you prefer Ryan and Mauler, that’s great. Go and watch their snarky content instead.

[@persephone342]

Wolverine would just chill through the process.

[@JVC_TV]

I miss Nerd Theory

[@JimP-tc7gg]

He’s a better fit than Ryan that’s for sure

[@nicolasacosta1673]

With den of shills? Hell no!

[@JimP-tc7gg]

@@nicolasacosta1673he was at least a nice guy and didn’t bully Theory live on stream like these two did.

[@Vertical_Horizons]

Den of No Notice is such a nice guy to not give any heads up before abandoning the show 🤭

[@JimP-tc7gg]

@@Vertical_Horizons life happens. He’s got children and stuff now hasn’t he. Either way, I didn’t get the impression there was any bad blood between him and theory.

[@markgregorygacosta531]

Great to see you three back in the game. Keep it up!

[@Xsurian]

Beating a dead horse.

[@DanteShadowfall]

To answer the questions about Logan....His healing factor isn't super over the moon like Deadpool. In the comics he his a mid to high regen. But if he dies he can fight Death or Azrael I dont remember which. If he wins he gets put back in his body because death was looking out for him. I think the run is Logan Dies or the like. In other ones the adamantine poisons his regen, and the company is pumping an anti mutant chemical into corn syrup which goes into everything. So that reduces it as well.

[@VaderPopsVicodin10]

The live stream I've been waiting for.. sucks I was working when it WAS live, but 🤷🏻‍♂️.. such is life. ___ One small thing that really irked me was that same, static establishing shot they showed EVERY TIME of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. No ships flying, no "traffic", absolutely none of the trademark hustle bustle of that metropolitan-like Planet. Just a DEAD static, LIFELESS shot of the Temple. Every damn time. Such cheapness.

[@tyrentherisen]

Can you really blame them? They only had $180 million to make this show. xD

[@myekyl7448]

PS. he did not sign off on this. he wasn't CCO yet when the show was finished he became the CCO in November 2023 but the show has been done since summer 2023

[@Justdont693]

Star Wars man seems so sad in this video. 😢 reality hitting him hard.

[@trevorlloyd9202]

kind of amazed that ppl who've made online careers by being unapologetically thorough in their detailed examinations of media have, apparently, done no real examination of Musk. or, they're fully aware of who he is, but are themselves fully ensconced in the cult...or don't want to piss off their fans, who are.

[@RaikenXion]

Do you mean to do with his "Neuralink" project?

[@trevorlloyd9202]

@@RaikenXion that would be a minor example

[@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire]

At the end of the day they're just nerds. They don't really grasp life beyond that. Which is fine, as I expect nothing different. But I have to admit that sometimes I just stop and have to let the fact sink in, that they're probably more upset about some amazon or disney show than the real time decline of the western world. Just to name an example.

[@dreioo8759]

He went from a Theory to a MAN.

[@IStillJustLikeCats]

On the topic of "doing something 100 years into the future" for Star Wars, Thor Skywalker had an interesting idea he posted in a video suggesting the same thing. The premise being that your main villian to set the story trying to become part of The Force, or hold influence over it or whatever, being faced and stopped by a large group of Jedi. However, in stopping them the planet theyre on is deatroyed and The Force is effected to the point that hyperspace isn't possible anymore. Exploring the idea of how the galaxy would be some years after an event like that would be and how possibly the Sith using that time to become a prominent presence in the Force again and how evil will take root again with the Jedi becoming far more localized. Even threw out the possibility that the dark side of The Force being the ones to get back the capacity for hyperspace travel again. I have no idea how that would work within the lore of the world, but it sounds interesting and so long as the hyperspace thing can be explained well enough, I think it could most definitely work. You could even use this idea to create spinoff shows that dont directly tie into the movies but still exist aling side them, just in a way that doesn't require people to have to watch them to know what's even going on in the movies and vice-versa.

[@parapendejadas4913]

The best part of the Acolyte conversation was when they were talking about the MCU/ Wolverine timeline instead 😎😎😎