Seriously… you guys gotta try this out. Literally my go-to framerate for b roll 🤌
@filmbyakiljoefield3 жыл бұрын
Most people is me to be honest, I've never shot in 30fps on my Sony a6600, and I've always dreamed about shooting at 4k @60fps but after seeing this video, I'm definitely gonna give this a go!!! My main reason for not using 30fps was the fear of my videos not being "cinematic" enough but that 80% speed makes it look sooo good!!! Thank you man!!
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
@@filmbyakiljoefield exactly bro!! Glad I could help, let me know how it turns out
@BikeShopGirl3 жыл бұрын
30 is the best. Seriously. Still looks human. Don’t have to jack your ISO. It’s great.
@AlexKroke3 жыл бұрын
I suppose it is only where audio is not needed ?
@wizardenergy3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I was always terrified of 30 fps (only shooting 24 or 60 slowed down). But for some reason never thought o shoot in 30 and slow it down 20%. Cool idea.
@JonathanPalfrey2 жыл бұрын
I've done this trick when needing to do a gimbal shot in the evening, 60fps wouldn't let in enough light however 30 slowed to 25 with a slightly slower walk gives you a very similar feel but you gain a stop of light.
@waazaaawoop9972 жыл бұрын
Wow very smart!
@bakerfx49682 жыл бұрын
I mean sure most people won’t notice the difference but the whole point of understanding the frame rates/shutter speed is to match how your motion blur looks. If you have anything moving in the shot the motion blur will be different than the 60fps footage
@TheFilmCouple_2 жыл бұрын
Correct 😊 I also do this when shooting real estate, normally I use 4k60 but for some darker areas I shoot at 30 to allow a 1/60 shutter, saving me from using too much ISO
@cdreyes812 жыл бұрын
@@TheFilmCouple_ I too am interested in doing video for real estate. I just do still at the moment.
@royaltykidstv Жыл бұрын
If I record an entire even at 30fps, will I be able to slow down some parts to 80% and leave other parts real time?
@persandholt9 ай бұрын
Super oldschool technique. Referred to as ”commercial slow” back in the good old celluloid days.
@_aaandstkmnul44v44j12 ай бұрын
... getting older and not smarter as I wanted to grrr
@suryacoapy51293 жыл бұрын
Good tip Ryan, but actually, it's not slowed by 80%, it's slowed *to* 80%. If it was slowed by 80% it would be at 20% which is 6 fps.
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh right, my mistake! Thank you
@auomi87622 жыл бұрын
@@RyanKao love your content man! 💪🏾
@imtoxicAF2 жыл бұрын
it actually is slowed by 80%. By is a common term used to multiply. 100% x 80% or .8 = 80%
@imtoxicAF2 жыл бұрын
@@wrywndp you do know there is more than one way to get a solution with math lol. there are 4 different ways infact lmfao. 100-20=80, 100+(-20)=80, 100x80%=80 100/1.25=80. what are you on about?
@wrywndp2 жыл бұрын
@@imtoxicAF there are two element in this, slowed meaning reducing, subtraction and by 80%, meaning the amount. if you say slowed by 80%, meaning you reducing 80% from total. if you mean from 100% to 80%, it could be slowed by 20% or slowed to 80%
@LuxBacelo2 жыл бұрын
Just keep in mind that also it depends on your location and light sources because you will get black bands if you are shooting in a country where the AC frecuency is 50Hz and you shoot at 30fps (using 1/60 shutter speed). For outdoors or scenes with DC light sources it won't be a problem.
@ezzaAU9 ай бұрын
Even if a camera has an anti-flicker feature?
@Bcutter9 ай бұрын
@@ezzaAU this is only a problem for places that uses old style LEDs. most new and modern LEDs are flicker-free
@PoolProblems6 ай бұрын
@@kurt_hansen me too, bro. I only film indoors, and everything flickers like hell if I'm shooting in 30/60.
@ninethirtyone42646 ай бұрын
@@Bcutteror CFL, neon, arc lamps, etc... so a lot of places outside studio environment
@AlCaldejon3 жыл бұрын
Wedding Filmmakers: "welp, there goes our secret for those smooth getting ready shots"
@Aviciiz3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@awphotos3 жыл бұрын
Secret? Lol no
@AlCaldejon3 жыл бұрын
@@awphotos to some it is, pro 🙌🏼
@GoodGuysMedia3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there was definitely some tape being leaked here....lol but appreciate it! Lets see what these cameramen and editors can do with this information
@theflowowl3 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, in a wedding situation how would you handle the frame rates? You cannot record everything at 30 fps and the render at 24 at 80% speed , right ? Otherwise everything looks kind of slow motion . Should you instead record at 24 and when needed switch to 30? This seems kind of problematic because you may forget to switch back
@GuoenyiАй бұрын
Sometimes you just gotta choose 60FPS in a bright situation if you don't have a neutral density filter. For indoor lighting 30FPS is pretty doable and help lowering that ISO noise.
@IndyVisuals3 жыл бұрын
Never thought I would ever see a tutorial on 30fps, this was really helpful i will try it out for sure. Thanks a lot for putting the time to share this with us.
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate this!
@09williamsa3 жыл бұрын
I use this for ALL my music video shoots! I playback the track for the artist at 125% speed, then slow my 30p footage down to 80% to then export smooth dreamy 24p video :)
@AndyKingCo2 жыл бұрын
Do you bring the audio back to 100% (normal speed) after slowing down to 80% FPS when editing? Thanks!
@cam16filmproductions332 жыл бұрын
Please how do you Speed the Audio Track ? By Bpm ?
@09williamsa2 жыл бұрын
@@cam16filmproductions33 you don’t do it by BPM. You play it back at 125% speed.
@09williamsa2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyKingCo yeah. You record at 30FPS with the playback track running at 125%. Then drop your footage into a 24p timeline and play it back at 80% speed, with your original playback audio at its normal speed.
@cam16filmproductions332 жыл бұрын
@@09williamsa thank u for the tip
@besknighter3 жыл бұрын
Yesss! 30/80% gang rise up! It even works well with music videos. Speed song to 125%, shoot at 30, place in a 24 fps comp with 80% speed and boom, amazing.
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
Literally my favorite!
@OutandaboutWalking3 жыл бұрын
Speed song to 125% - Do you mean audio? Thanks
@besknighter3 жыл бұрын
@@OutandaboutWalking Yep! If you want to have people do stuff synced to the song (like lip-syncing), speed its payback to 125% when shooting. This will make the slowed-down-to-80% footage stay in sync with the song at normal speed.
@DucatiSydney3 жыл бұрын
Bro could you elaborate that last line, “place in a 24fps comp with 80%”
@besknighter3 жыл бұрын
@@DucatiSydney Sure thing. Create a 24 fps sequence and drop your 30 fps footage in it. Then change the **footage** speed to 80%. Just like Ryan showed in the video.
@EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach6 ай бұрын
I can definitely agree with this. I've shot on the EOS R for years and if I shoot in 4K the highest I can go is 30fps. And it looks smooth while not being that super slowed down footage that let's you know you're watching slow mo. It's like an optical illusion that does not take the view out of the real time emersion but still can take a few little jitters from the footage.
@Mosttechy3 жыл бұрын
Really gonna try this for Broll. Thanks!
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
Of course brother 🙏
@muajin3 жыл бұрын
oooh. a checkmark!!
@sun-eye3 жыл бұрын
Keep us updated on how it went. Thanks.
@danfarmer_photo9 ай бұрын
Bro, I’ve been doing this in my commercial work for a while now, I am so glad to see it being recognised. Slow motion really doesn’t suit everything, but 30fps in a 24timeline gives something special. No one would call it slow motion because it’s not, but it’s softer (if that makes sense).
@SethFox9411 ай бұрын
You're such a big inspiration for me. You know you're watching the right videos when even the talking head portion- from the set, the grade, the entire look is just phenomenal. You're beyond talented, never stop shooting Ryan.
@Augnos Жыл бұрын
Was expecting someone to talk about how 30fps is better than 24 fps because the 24fps jitter on youtube is annoying af, but guess this was just a video on 30fps b-roll for 24fps videos 😞
@mr_maduber9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! 🙏 Your advice was brilliant. My teacher at University said it was okay to drop my 30fps footage in a 24fps timeline, but as you pointed out, there was something wrong with it. My videos looked choppy and laggy. 😩 Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. It will definitely improve my editing skills. I am grateful for your advice as it will definitely help me improve my editing skills. 😊 I want to thank you for pointing out the mistake in my work. My teacher at MAA University had suggested that it was okay to drop my 30fps footage in a 24fps timeline, but as you pointed out, it was causing problems. My videos were appearing choppy and laggy. 😔 Your knowledge and expertise in the field of video editing have been very valuable to me. Thanks once again for your help in improving my editing skills. 🙏🤗
@FilmProductionUSA2 жыл бұрын
I thank God that you said slow motion maybe getting stale. I thought I was the only one :) If I see another slow motion wedding film with mostly no voices and music that makes me cry, I am going to sell my equipment LOL. But seriously, my clients even make me add slow motion to my videos even though I shoot in 24 and 30 fps. I just slow it down in post which works fine for me and I haven't had any complaints yet from clients. Doing events and parties and the like in mostly slow motion ruins everything. You can't hear the kids screaming, the wind and birds or the background chatter which makes a film real. I just watched the first look where a photographer did at least 3 takes. WHAT! Okay, enough of my rant :) I am just glad it's not just me who thinks slow motion is stale...Ryan, keep up the great work and being a trailblazer. Sincerely, craig
@JeepTJWheelin6 ай бұрын
I have the Canon R50 with the Nisi 9mm f/2.8 RF lens and it's been an amazing combo for shooting real estate. The R50 goes up to 4k 30fps without cropping and with this tip, the results are great! 👍
@imperial-gamer3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!! Some one finally revealing it publically Soap opera effect is old school....now everyone shoots at 30fps
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
It’s seriously really fun to shoot in…
@alexanderlvt8 ай бұрын
Wow that was a great tip. I'm very new to all this and i'm going to use my iPhone 11 as a camera with a gimbal and some simple tools. Let's see what I can come up with
@RyanKao8 ай бұрын
👍
@benjamin.kelley3 жыл бұрын
I shoot all my drone footage at 4K 30 because it's the highest it goes in 4K, but honestly when slowed to 80% it's perfect.
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
Yes same dude!
@ebukka Жыл бұрын
Bunu deneyeceğim çok teşekkür ederim. 30P çekip 24 Kare cıktı almak heycan verici, benim için biraz daha detaylı anlatır mısın ?
@TRC_PNW11 ай бұрын
Eureka! This dreamy look/feel is exactly perfect for something I’ve got brewing and I never would have thought of it. Thank you man! 🙌
@_juanchamorro3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, i saw the title to this video and thought "here we go again, someone else claiming 30fps is better than 24fps" lol but this is a great tip! 100% trying this out
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
Yooo thank you Juan!!
@Team_Woot3 жыл бұрын
Funny, I though I was going to see an explanation of why you should not deliver 24fps content to a 60fps platform. No dice. I appreciate the irony at 1:26 where we acknowledge that cadence errors make things "look a little bit off", then proceed to take footage recorded at 1:1 cadence and send it to KZbin to display at 3:2. Pretty shots though. Thanks.
@_juanchamorro3 жыл бұрын
@@Team_Woot lol no one's reading all that
@wizardenergy3 жыл бұрын
@@Team_Woot is it true? Doesn't youtube playback at whatever the framerate was set to? Does it really do apulldown conversion for 24fps?
@Team_Woot3 жыл бұрын
@@wizardenergy No, KZbin isn't doing any conversion, it is delivering the 24 fps video. It is your phone/computer that has issues displaying it. If your phone/laptop/monitor is 60hz refresh (probably 90%+ are) then it can only display images for multiples of 1/60 of second, so 1/60, 1/30, 1/20, 1/15... So when it encounters 24 fps it alternates between 1/20 and 1/30 display times. That averages out to 1/24 but the even number frames are displayed 50% longer than the odd number frames. The RTINGS guys explain this really well, provided you can handle extreme French-Canadian :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaaoi3yAeaqEr9E You can download their test pattern and try it yourself.
@adokapo2 жыл бұрын
180 degree and 24 fps. My favorite topics on the whole internet. 😂
@chunkit783 жыл бұрын
To get actual frame rate for Resolve, you should right click the clip, go to clip attribute and change the fps to 24. Anyway, great tips
@glssjg2 жыл бұрын
In final cut just select the clip(s) and hit the time icon then hit automatic speed. This will slow down the footage to whatever the project frame rate is set to.
@DylanBlackburn3 жыл бұрын
This video might have seriously changed my life. DEFINITELY gonna be doing this from now on.
@ronaldojoe30113 жыл бұрын
I just love how the internet as a whole has refused to acknowledge the existence of the PAL standard.
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
Honestly very true. I apologize 😅
@SyamaMishra3 жыл бұрын
@@RyanKao It also refuses to acknowledge most displays are still 60hz playback all the 24fps youtube videos judder.
@benhasic3 жыл бұрын
I live in Aus, so PAL is life
@MohamedAnouar73 жыл бұрын
أخبار
@Schwermetall3 жыл бұрын
@@SyamaMishra thank you! That true but the most people don't think about it!
@OriginaldoBo3 жыл бұрын
Daniel Talked about this long time ago never really gave it much thought but these examples are really good. BTW the color grade on the b-roll is absolutely 🔥🔥🔥 damn man it’s good
@PaulFeinberg3 жыл бұрын
Yea you should try it sometime Dobo LOL
@chinmayasinghrawat46222 жыл бұрын
Very well articulated. I have been feeling a burnout of slow-mo B rolls myself and also the fact that 60 fps slowed down looks way too slow to keep up with the dwindling attention span of people.
@flipnap21122 жыл бұрын
im past 50 and decided to delve into this.. the ongoing decline of attention span. Saw a short documentary and it scared the hell out of me. I think the general assessment was that modern attention span of younger kids is somewhere in the 0-10 second range. they studied why movie trailers seems to almost be strobe lights, and why they need to give away the entire plot in the trailer. when you go to the movies and the trailers play its like sitting in front of a machine gun, bot audio and visually. when two people are talking to each other in a film, we need a camera cut at least every 5 seconds or they lose interest in the conversation. it went on and on but I couldn't believe what I was watching. its scary
@chinmayasinghrawat46222 жыл бұрын
Could you guide me to the video@@flipnap2112 ?
@flipnap21122 жыл бұрын
@@chinmayasinghrawat4622 yeah let me look back through my history and see if I can find it. was some months back. im sure you could find it though. it was on KZbin. really quite shocking though. and actually not hard to see. im pretty sure social media addiction has a LOT to do with it. Ticktoc is literally engineered to create rabid time based addiction patterns so..
@FilmSchool-om3ewАй бұрын
I'm glad you took the 30 FPS challenge, cause most other videos totally ignore it. But my Canon has this setting, well, 29. etc, then 59. etc.
@gamecubeplayerАй бұрын
30fps is almost always 29.97fps
@MaxwellChan03 жыл бұрын
Interesting perspective, ill definitely try this in my cinematics!
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
Do it man!
@mikithealien11 ай бұрын
OMG you have really inspired me, I’ve been so torn about what frame rate to use, I constantly heard 60 is the smoothest and 24 is standard and I was so lost but this, I love the way it looks! Thank you so much.
@My123Tutorials3 жыл бұрын
You're right, it looks hyperreal. And I do quite like this look. Sometimes when you have big or strong motions in your video, 25 fps (I'm living in Europe) does look too blurry to me. So I wondered about what method I could use to get rid of this without putting out a 30 fps video or getting a weird look in my footage. But this could be it. As long as nobody is talking to the camera... could be strange at 80% speed. 😂
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
I love it!! Give it a shot! And yeah definitely not for talking hear stuff lol
@sun-eye3 жыл бұрын
Have anyone tried increasing the audio to 120% to see if it will sync up???
@johnnyweissmuller58382 жыл бұрын
25/30 is actually 83.33333%
@clonkex2 жыл бұрын
@@sun-eye That makes no sense, unless you're talking about having people lip-sync to music while recording the video. In that case, if you're slowing the clip down to 80%, you'll want to speed up the music to 125% (not 120%) and it will match up.
@denver_video5 ай бұрын
Thank you Ryan! I’ve never heard of playing back 30fps in a 24 timeline at 80%. Fun to see an original idea and I can’t wait to give it a go. Also I really enjoyed your small motion piece when describing the “pull down” or whatever it’s called tossing frames to jam 30 in 24 full speed. Subscribed to the channel thanks again! TJ Daly
@RyanKao5 ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@ebinrock2 жыл бұрын
I like the look of 24p, but I'm SOOO used to the traditional broadcast world of 30 fps (actually 29.97 to nitpick) that doing the math to figure out transition lengths, for example (8 frames vs. 10, for 1/3 of a second) throws me off a bit, so I don't tend to use 24 fps timelines.
@BOTG_Adventures Жыл бұрын
broadcast is 25 in uk.
@arthurkallinen8 ай бұрын
It's just that when working with 25fps for linear TV (Europe), it has to be either 25, or s&q at 50/100
@arnisbrown58483 жыл бұрын
Good call, and wonderful footage. Like 24fps I also think the 180 degree shutter rule is overstressed when higher shutter speeds can allow for better stabilization in post if you can't use a gimbal etc., especially with new gyroscopic-based stabe.
@Isaypreach2 жыл бұрын
What is the 180 degree shutter rule?
@DFD19 ай бұрын
@@Isaypreachshutter speed = double framer ate for most natural motion blur
@tonysluna Жыл бұрын
I have to say.. I am a Fan for a while now... Your Samples and explanations for using 30f is very very appealing and convincing...
@RyanKao Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@KorosiFam3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to try this out on my next video dude, awesome tip. As a fellow DaVinci user, is there a difference between slowing the footage down to 80% vs changing clip attributes to 24p?
@KeokiDudeАй бұрын
Dude, great way of explaining things- thanks.
@RyanKaoАй бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@DELvEK Жыл бұрын
My question is; If I record In 60/50fps I still can use settings to make it look like 30fps or even 24fps right, but when recording In 24/30fps I have to speed up the frames per seconds to boost it up to 60fps but It make the video a lil sketchy and a lil too fast.. Like not normal.. So should I always record in 50 or 60fps in case of needs to use slow motion later or anything like that OR I just always record in 24/30 fps and deal with settings afterwards ?
@VirtualVybes2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I'm new to videography so seeing the difference between 24 / 30 / 60 was very helpful. I love the dreamy look as you described about the 30fps look. I will definitely be incorporating that in my work.
@HatefYaminiOnline Жыл бұрын
Super thorough explanation. Thank you!
@RyanKao Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@tempestfilmsph2 жыл бұрын
been shooting 30fps since forever best for live performances
@wyattlavigne2 жыл бұрын
Going to try this on one segment of b-roll for my channel, thanks!
@tomask.3983 Жыл бұрын
I have been trying this "light slow-mo effect" on a project and ran into two problems before I got it right. My process: I shot some stock footage clips at 30fps and in Davinci Resolve I started a new project with 24 fps in the project settings. On the timeline I right-clicked the clips and under "change clip speed" I changed speed from 100 to 80% and clicked "change". Now - when doing this, part of the original clip is cut off. To prevent this from happening you also have to check the box "Ripple timeline". When you then click "change" you can notice that the clip is stretched out on the timeline and everything you filmed is there. So far so good. But when I rendered my project and checked the rendered clips, I could se they were still 30fps!! (actually 29,97fps) instead of 24 fps wich I had as project setting. The solution to this was to also be sure to check the box "Render timeline effects" on the render page under the format and codec options. When re-rendering my project I now could see that my clips were 24 fps. Also, on the short sequence in your video where we can see how you do it (kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZuUd3qki5iVb6c) you also have "pitch correction" checked. I was not able to do this as this check-box is gray for me and I don´t know what possible effect it would have... I´m a beginner on Davinci and maybe things should be done differently, but this is how I did it. I´d be glad to hear your comment Ryan! Again, thank you for your video Ryan, it was truly inspiring!
@prod_by_stefan8 ай бұрын
"pitch correction" would affect the imbeded audiotrack. So if audio get slowed down it would normally sound deeper. To prevent this from happening you "pitch correct" the slowed audio to the same hight as the original, thus making it sound more natural. Honestly a must use feature if there is talking involved in the clip and lips can be seen. If the lip-movement can not be seen I would separate the audiotrack and cut the pauses to match the video. If there are only noises it's completely up to you and your creative choice. Deeper sounds of (for example: rolling tires) with a slow-mo-shot can be quite nice aswell. But I think you understand know what the setting does, so be creative!
@SpiritedHumaneering8 ай бұрын
thank you for this super useful comment!
@aldrinemerlin3099 Жыл бұрын
Is there any difference between the 30fps in camera phone and professional camera?
@ridwanmayaki4400 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. It's interesting to me, that this feels better than slowed 60fps footage.
@fonsecarichard4 ай бұрын
Awesome information! I just got my new camera and shot it in 60fps and after looking at it, I'm feeling way to nauseous lol. Sending you hugs and love. ❤❤❤
@imacruzangyal3 жыл бұрын
1. She def got her steps in 2. Those peaches and that lemonade looks good 3. Great video 4. Where’s the peach lemonade recipe? 😂 5. The nails, here for it lol
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
Haha love this! Peach lemonade tutorial coming soon lol
@PeterCleff6 ай бұрын
Really cool concept. I honestly love this, I'll definitely be playing with this idea. I am quite married to shooting for slow mo. But your not wrong in saying it's a bit overdone.
@LuisMarquez803 жыл бұрын
There is a place for every frame rate and 30 is definitely the least used because doesn’t change much.
@Yeon_Dooboo Жыл бұрын
Great video. My question is, does reducing the speed of 4k 30 footage to 80% have any effects on synching with real-time sound at all? Forgive me, I'm learning how to edit so this may be a noob question.
@redhouscv27929 ай бұрын
Did you figure this out?
@Yeon_Dooboo8 ай бұрын
@@redhouscv2792 So far, I'm just sticking to matching video and audio sound speeds 😄
@mikesteck13102 жыл бұрын
This is a great video! Thx! I do full-time video for a County in CA and have used 30fps for ALL B-Roll, but there is even another reason. If you have recorded the master in 30fps, for commercial B-roll or products, all the local TV stations want 30fps, so if you already have that, how awesome, render it out in 30 and its ready for the tv stations. I am going to be setting this on my Komodo too.
@mammakstolltv3 жыл бұрын
The magic number!
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
The best number
@ColePerrine7 ай бұрын
I used to shoot everything at 60fps (1/60) then edit and export in 30. I think it’s the most versatile way for KZbin, because if something crazy happens, you can slow it down by 50% in a pinch. But as I’ve worked my way into television, I find myself really enjoying 24 frames with 180° shutter angle. Accessible cameras are typically able to output higher qualities, better colors, and the like when you use 30 or below. Up to preference.
@chosenideahandle2 жыл бұрын
KZbinrs tend to be sold on 24fps by other KZbinrs. Outside that world 30fps is still the most common frame rate (at least I’ve never been asked to deliver 24). Yes, only do the 80% thing putting 30fps on a 24fps timeline. Of course shooting 24fps has it’s place, but there are a lot of problems with it that make it less than ideal for content delivered online. Screen refresh rates are a factor here. For commercial clients, delivering the same content on multiple platforms really requires 30 or 60. I know that some wedding shooters like shooting everything in 60, so they have the flexibility of slowing down anything later. My personal projects are all shot in 24, but no client to answer to when my video looks bad on KZbin. I like your stuff btw!
@Rogeras322 жыл бұрын
Well, man, I'm not sure about your requested deliveries, but pretty much every serious protect I've worked with (from documentaries to commercials and short films) were all delivered in 24-25 fps. a-roll shot in target framerate to maintain proper shutter motion blur, b-roll if needed in slowmo is usually shot in rapids (like 120 slowed down to 25 etc). Blackmagic, Arri, Red... you name it. Though a couple of specific projects were shot with very high shutter speed and in slow mo because of the genre. So... idk.
@peterfuentes58932 жыл бұрын
It's because those are Hollywood standards.
@bakerfx49682 жыл бұрын
As a wedding filmmaker I change frame rates based on what I’m shooting, shooting everything in 60 seems lazy lol
@peterfuentes58932 жыл бұрын
@@bakerfx4968 What frame rate do you export your films in? I always export wedding films in 23.976 FPS.
@bakerfx49682 жыл бұрын
@@peterfuentes5893 yep same. speeches and ceremony on a-roll are 23.976 because they’ll be shown in real time, b-roll and lovey dovey stuff in 60 fps slowed down
@simoncurran61848 ай бұрын
Thank you. Ive just moved from hitfilm express to DaVinci. I couldnt work out why my footage was juddering.
@bardofhighrenown2 жыл бұрын
When you use the 80% of 30 fps method, do you use a 1/60th or a 1/48th shutter speed?
@Panaminican7 ай бұрын
I have the same question, did you figure it out?
@torridproductions5 ай бұрын
Wouldn't slowing 30fps down 80% affect the audio if you're using the one camera for audio as well? (ie pitch)
@royaltykidstv Жыл бұрын
Can you film an entire event in 30fps, and then once you edit you can decide what stays in real time and then also what scenes are slowed to 80%?
@jacek5384 Жыл бұрын
Not that simple.
@gamingwithstand68862 жыл бұрын
I heard a lot of music videos are filmed in 30p and slowed down and put in a 24 frame time line.
@RyanKao Жыл бұрын
👍
@SteveBerwick2 жыл бұрын
I love 30fps for my workflow (ie: Home Movies shot on an iPhone or GoPro), but I have different reasons. When dealing with small sensors, the shutter speed gets cranked waaay up, which means zero motion blur. And that makes 24fps looks very juddery, especially if there is any movement. 30 is a great balance that still feels cinematic, but is much more pleasing to watch. Maybe when the kids get older and I have ND filters and time to properly expose, then maybe I'll revisit 24fps, but for now it's not even a consideration.
@joshmcdarris7 ай бұрын
It's a nice look. Used it in several projects. Personally I prefer 60 fps slomo if I'm going to slow things down at all. Anyway, instead of slowing things down by a percentage, conform your footage to 24fps.
@AndersonProds3 жыл бұрын
This is a solid idea for KZbin videos & lifestyle content but not for Music Videos or Feature Films. The industry standard will always be 24fps and looks best 🤷🏼♂️
@zd.visuals2 жыл бұрын
Where I live you would usually use 25FPS, but I prefer shooting at 30FPS and 24FPS for the added flexibility (You have to be careful with flickering lights, though). It can really help with improving the stability of shots and it even helps with stabilizing in post, because of the added frames.
@DeerghKataria3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video! Never thought about 30fps like that!
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!!
@EdsonSantos-qm3wc6 ай бұрын
When I owned a canon 5DM3 I used to do this b/c it didn’t offer full hd 60 XD it’s def a vibe!!!
@ThePOVLife3 жыл бұрын
It’s almost like 30fps emphasizes an entire moment and 60fps emphasizes a moment with the entire moment. Sometimes 60fps is cool however boring when you wish the specific slowed down moment would just get over with. Super cool video! Just noticing this now and definitely going to be incorporating it more.
@WereAllChefs5 ай бұрын
This video was awesome. I think I am going to give it a try on my next cooking video. I always switch to 120fps to show case food but i want to play around with this effect that you talk about. Great info!
@RyanKao5 ай бұрын
Hope it works out great for you!!
@stephencooper51559 ай бұрын
*cries in European where 30fps just makes everything indoors flicker*
@NowyKurs3 жыл бұрын
It's good for motion I find out. I'm using a lot. Not for voice and conversation shots but rest of the narration compose great and narrative. You don't need even slowing down the footage. Simply press interpret the clip to the timeline fps.
@marcellobarbusci2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, How do you do when you need to record an interview? Do you use 30fps or do you already record at 24fps? If you record the interview at 30fps, there's no way to reduce it by 80% on the 24fps timeline because the audio will also reduce by 80% in speed. How do you do in a situation like this? Congratulations mate
@DriftRS2 жыл бұрын
change your timeline/sequence or whatever to 24 fps instead of your videeo
@vasile.stancu6 ай бұрын
@@DriftRSI don’t understand exactly. What do you mean? Assuming the timeline is already at 24 fps
@spebat2 жыл бұрын
I was critical when I clicked play, but I get it, and I can see the dream-like feel you’re talking about. Looks good, but I probably won’t switch to this method, ‘cause for my kind of projects, I’m not sure it’s worth the extra step, in the end. One thing I’m into lately is shooting at 24fps, but breaking the rules & cranking the shutter speed instead of merely doubling the frame rate (which is standard practice). I like the sharpness it gives the image when the shutter’s between like 1/100-1/200. I think it looks super clean & sets the footage apart from what people have gotten used to seeing.
@jaywalker.2 жыл бұрын
After watching a ton of videos I'm pretty convinced to shoot at 30 or 60 and edit on a 24 timeline with interpreted 80% and 40% footage. BUT. Will I still need to shoot at 24 to have usable audio? Thanks!
@Nathan_Lundstrom2 жыл бұрын
What he’s talking about in this video is B roll. Your a roll should match your timeline.
@DucatiSydney3 жыл бұрын
I think this is a B-roll secret no youtuber wanted to clearly tell it out. But you’re a real legend g! Been searching this since 2 years.
@Trekopolis2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, love the look of the final project when shooting at 30fps. I wondered how some people were achieving that. QUESTION - I heard you say people tend to edit in 24fps, but do you still render or export the final project at 30fps or 24fps? That threw me for a loop. :) What's the difference if you edit in 30 vs 24? I don't quite understand that, especially while just working on a timeline. Thanks sir!
@UpStreamCharlie3 жыл бұрын
I use 30fps since I started my YT Channel. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@corbinkitchner34353 жыл бұрын
I remember this hack from your drone stuff. Made me shoot in 30 on my old mavic pro back in the day to slow it down to 24. Does slowing down 30fps work on a 25fps timeline though? Is it better to interpret the footage at 25 instead. Reason I’m asking is I live in Australia and our electricity is 50HZ so high frame rates in ntsc cause flicker in artificial light where as all the PAL frame rates like 25,50,100 work better in this part of the world haha 🤦♂️ Although I hardly shoot in artificial light anyway unless I’m doing weddings
@ronaldojoe30113 жыл бұрын
You're the first person I've seen on youtube that has talked about the PAL standard
@RyanKao3 жыл бұрын
My man!!! Appreciate this
@DucatiSydney3 жыл бұрын
Someone answer his question
@vladoperic2363 жыл бұрын
I had this same problem when I was editing a video where I had some 30 fps footage and a lot of 25 fps footage. So i interpreted it to 25 and added optical flow, and after trying a lot of other things decided it did the best for my specific shots.
@clonkex2 жыл бұрын
I'm also Australian and personally I've always just said "screw it" to shooting at PAL-compatible framerates. I rarely shoot under fluoros anyway and the flickering doesn't seem to occur with incandescent and LED bulbs. 60fps all the way for me. Computer monitors and phone screens are mostly multiples of 30fps so the playback is much smoother. Then again, I'm only shooting vlogs, not weddings, so I'm not after a cinematic feel and it's not important if there's a little strobing in a shopping centre or whatever. But in answer to your question, 30fps should work fine on a 25fps timeline _so long as_ your editing software can support slowing down the footage by an arbitrary amount, since you'd need to slow it by 83.333% (25/30). I haven't tried this myself, but speaking as a programmer, I suspect if your editing software lets you specific a target framerate (rather than a percentage of the original speed) then it should only very rarely have to drop a frame (due to floating point imprecision). However, if your editing software only lets you specify a target speed as a percentage of the original, you better type as many threes as it will let you type, otherwise the limited precision of the number might result in more frequent dropped frames. Or I might be talking out my arse. As I say, I haven't tried it myself. Some video editors have strobe removal features, so you might try that if your shots are flickery.
@followthevind Жыл бұрын
Need some advice here. I'm stuck with 4k 30fps right now and tried putting it onto a 24 timeline, slowing it down to 80% and exporting as a 24 video. But the result is actually less smooth than if I put the 30 clip on a 30 timeline and export accordingly. Not getting the dreamy look at all but just slightly more stuttery instead. Any ideas or advice much appreciated!
@followthevind Жыл бұрын
I am viewing the exported footage on a 60hz laptop screen, could this be the issue? 30fps looks great and 24fps has a slight judder
@RyanKao Жыл бұрын
The problem you may be facing is your footage may have been shot with a shutter speed slower than 1/60, which would be the correct speed for a 180 degree shutter and proper motion blur.
@followthevind Жыл бұрын
@@RyanKao thanks for the reply! I have tried with 60 and all the way up to 400 shutter speed though, so I think the problem lies elsewhere. :/
@user-bw5pn4qv9i Жыл бұрын
You may be suffering from a 3:2 Pull-Down?
@DatoAliffAlex3 жыл бұрын
30FPS is applicable for those stayed in NTSC region like US, Japan NTSC. If youre European or Asian you wanna stick with 25FPS. The amount of people shoot in 24FPS all over the world causes problem in the broadcast industry.
@littleroundbutt2 жыл бұрын
Hi, i'm new to filmmaking. I learn most of editing and shooting skills from youtube. And I shoot in 24/30/60fps most of the time and I live in Malaysia. What's the cause or issue with NTSC and PAL differences?
@RussianPinoy5 ай бұрын
Valuable advise, I will try it on my next weeks trip to Philippines
@RyanKao5 ай бұрын
Please do!!
@JaredRibic Жыл бұрын
I did this about a year ago on a fashion video where I didn't want to shoot everything at 60fps. It was perfect for making the "normal' (non slomo) footage still look a bit dreamy. My cameras (Canon) don't have 48fps, so I'm thinking about trying 50fps to see how I like that look.
@Andrasturiexplore2 жыл бұрын
Wooow. 30 fps in 80/40% speed looks very sharp! This look is what I'm looking for when I buy cheap Fujifilm but don't get how tu make picture like this. Amazing thing. Thank you for compare.
@garyjzhao3 жыл бұрын
30fps for slowmo and brolls; ok that makes sense. but what about talking head and what not? wouldn't the advice to shoot 30fps not work?
@Ben.ODonohue3 жыл бұрын
I had the same question
@ernolaunis2 жыл бұрын
24 fps of course or what is your normal speed. Test. Shoot.
@kaskalo25 ай бұрын
I am a bit confused (still learning). What is the difference of putting 30 vs 60 fps on a 24 fps timeline, and slowing it down to 80%. In my understanding, in both cases you will end up with a video of 24fps, which is slowed down to 80%
@fumikato4 ай бұрын
The goal is to make all the footage a 24fps, and it might be resulting in a slowed down video
@waynosfotos3 жыл бұрын
30fps, there is a lot of benefits to 30. One you can pan slightly faster, which is a big limitation in cameras. Also 30 divides nicely into all frame rates and matchs screens for viewers. Even most apps convert your videos to 30. So why do this 24fps just because film did it. Personally I don't like the look of 24fps, it jitters and i can see it.
@Pfagnan2 жыл бұрын
TOTALLY! That’s my argument. You don’t need the old-school 24p anymore which doesn’t capture motion well at all! Stay in a 30p timeline.
@ChelseaLito617 Жыл бұрын
How would you get this look on a 30FPS timeline?
@kokomoko18803 жыл бұрын
How about PAL 25 & 50 ?
@KarimJovian2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't film this whole video in 30fps? Would have been interesting to see. The video is in 24 fps
@delta-a17 Жыл бұрын
I don't think he means export in 30fps, he means your cinematic sequences can be shot in 30 and then made to look cool and smooth if you reduce from 30 to 24 using 80% speed. The video you're talking about would be titled "Why you SHOULD set your timeline to 30fps" or "Why you SHOULD export in 30fps!!"
@zhuzhu_pet8 ай бұрын
Did you watch the video?
@lIlIIIIllIllIIIlIlII7 ай бұрын
This technique does not work well with shots that have a talking subject, you would have to either slow down the sound as well making it sound weird or have it not be synced to the video. This is for B-roll.
@ninethirtyone42646 ай бұрын
@@lIlIIIIllIllIIIlIlIIIf you play the original footage at 125% speed, then convert it to 24fps, slow it down to 8o% you will end up with the original video speed you started on. Then you just overlay the original audio over it and you are golden.
@marttiasikainen8264 Жыл бұрын
One of your favorites? Is 24 nd 60 the other two? By the way, good tip. Thank you.
@RyanKao Жыл бұрын
I would say for me, 24fps is always my fav... but then 2nd would be 30fps, then 60fps yes!
@juanpablogrados218 Жыл бұрын
What will be the result of creating a 30fps timeline, record footage at 30fps, and reduce 80% speed?
@jordiscm4339 Жыл бұрын
did you find out? im curious too
@BijuTeo Жыл бұрын
Thank you. But I have a question. When I try to shoot in 30fps my camera does not allow me to make my shutter speed 1/60 and it forces me to make it 1/125. Why is that (I use Nikon z30) ? Thank you in advance!
@GreyAmbience10 ай бұрын
Is there a tutorial on how to do this for beginners? I have great 30fps footage I want to play with
@timroelofs56362 жыл бұрын
5:04 THIS MAN hahaha. Loved how u did this little thing
@willwoolf2 жыл бұрын
Colorist here, I've only just discovered your channel and your grading is GORGEOUS.
@Artagah3 жыл бұрын
Clicking on this in my recommended, I Expected to skip through and roll my eyes calling out the clickbait, but came away having learned something interesting and new, something I haven’t thought of doing before and that’s dope, thanks :D I’m surprised how the audio is still perfectly usable at 80% speed.
@nathananderson87209 ай бұрын
This is one of the channels that gave me the courage to start my KZbin channel 8 months ago about self development. Now I have 1,126 subs and > 900 hours of watch time. I know it’s not comparable with others but I’m still proud I started because I’ve been learning so many lessons that I could haven’t learned without getting started in the 1st place.
@alfnazr Жыл бұрын
How about the audio? 30fps on 24fps timeline? Will it overlap?
@RyanKao Жыл бұрын
Yes unfortunately if you slow down the footage, the audio will be unusable
@lenividivici91232 жыл бұрын
That shot sequence starting from 0:45 reallyy reminded me of Bart's skateboard scene in the Simpsons movie where they hide his weenie until the very end.
@OdysseusVrakas2 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done. Glad to see a video out there about this. Same reason I shoot my drone clips in 30fps not 24. It's just smoother.