7 Reasons To Film in 1080p in 2022 (instead of 4K)

In this video I wanted to share 7 Reasons To Film in 1080p in 2022 (instead of 4K). There are lots of practical reasons to shoot in 1080p, and people don't talk or know about it.
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[@TSCameraGear]

*I was wrong* about that statement that most movies are shot in 1080p today *HOWEVER* 10 years ago the 2K statement was true. And most people can't see the difference between 4K and 2K. Just consider the fact that I made the error. Didn't even notice that everything has shifted to 4K.

[@asheeshkchopra]

Thanks for sharing correction on this aspect as I was not quite sure and was about to search for it as a first step after watching your video. To me the crux of what you have said in this video is that it’s more convenient to use 1080p. I can totally relate to it. I bought the Canon R5 with its 8K RAW video as one of the attractions; invested in a $500 CF Express card to use the feature but haven’t used it even once! Thanks to the massive file sizes and the fact that my MacBook Pro with i7 and 16 GB RAM is literally NOT ABLE to process the files!

[@securityg]

Exactly!!!!! - James D Watkins artistic director of PHOENIX PRODUCTIONS.

[@commieRob]

I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but I think the shift to 4K has more to do with protecting an industry from outsiders than it has to do with better quality images.

[@hafrnsociety]

Protecting an industry from outsiders.... 🤔

[@faded_prodigy4202]

@@hafrnsocietyit's a lot harder to get started when everyone swears you need a camera that shots 4k and at the amounts of time you need without over heating that's going to be 5k if not more by the time a l series lens comes in the picture vs a 5-600 dollar r50 or something of that caliber that shoots 1080p and you can get just as nice of shots with it if you know why your doing it's the hype around 4k it's clearer but not thousand of dollars worth more clearer

[@Rocketman0407]

@@faded_prodigy4202Definitely not seeing how even most mid level phones can record in 4k these days.

[@Rocketman0407]

@@faded_prodigy4202yes for video 4k is hyped and far from the only factor making a video look good. Even 720p can look great if configured correctly with good lighting on good cameras.

[@THX..1138]

Hollywood also still shoots in 1080p because when you watch a movie in the theater or on TV there is a minimum comfortable viewing distance where the viewer doesn't want to be any closer to the screen. At that distance regardless of screen size 1080p and 4k look the same.....It's the reason I bought a 70" 1080p TV for $300 on close out when everything was switching over to 4k. I saved a couple of thousand dollars and still to this day everyone thinks my TV is 4k.

[@ogshotglass9291]

These are all great points. I do want to point out an 8th reason that is commonly overlooked: low-light performance. Most cameras work their best in as much light as possible. A camera sensor may be able to capture video in 4K, but the data rate means either the built-in sensor data processor or the card-writing processor may force the sensor to shoot in shorter exposures at a particular frame rate to allow the processor to play catch-up and be ready for the next frame. If you're out in broad daylight, you wouldn't notice this because the camera will have already had plenty of time to capture a frame, making this argument completely moot. But in low light, such as shooting a night scene or walking through a dim hallway, this will be easily noticeable. The camera may boost ISO by a factor of around 2 (if not manually set) and adjust exposure accordingly where needed, which will produce a noisier video, or in the case of maxed ISO, will shorten the time of exposure, making any subjects much darker than desired. While switching to RAW video shooting (if applicable) may help alleviate some of the effects in post-production, that alone will have the drawback of insanely large file sizes. When I learned about RAW video editing in HS, I was surprised to know that just one second of RAW video in 1080p24 could run as much as 75-80 megabytes of storage, and 1080p30 can be 100-115, and 1080p60 can be around 200-230. 2160p60 could be, if I am calculating right (4K wasn't around yet), around 800MB-1GB per second of video.

[@gcprost]

I have no argument with anything you had to say; however, I shoot a mix of 1080p and 4K. I shoot live theatre, concerts and dance shows. I shoot with 3-4 cameras. Usually the wide shot is done in 4K internally and on an Atomos recorder. This is because at some point in the show, I’m going to need the widest shot but often during the show I may need to crop in the shot. The other cameras shoot 1080p on the Atomos recorder and internally I shoot 4K. This way my safety (the internal recording) has the ability to punch in. Oddly enough, the Atomos 1080p recordings are much bigger than the internal 4K (10 bit) recordings, but they are much easier to edit. Even 4K ProRes recordings from an Atomos Recorder are easy to edit.

[@Glenrsi]

Great information. I agree about using 1080p as i fly and film with my drones. I only use 1080p for all of my videos and for reasons mentioned.

[@tommyoneill8182]

Great technical information - thank you!

[@cinematic.visuals]

A lot of great and solid points there. Thank you for this insight as I was on the fence myself on what resolution I should film in. You just helped me make that decision :)

[@TSCameraGear]

glad you liked it :) :)

[@ChipWhitehouse]

This just helped me SO INCREDIBLY MUCH I can not even begin to describe! Thank you so much for this video 😩😩😩😭🙌💖💕

[@XaneVidz]

Thanks💪 I’m filming a short film and 4k seems to over heat my phone but since I use an iPhone I wanted an edge. Now I feel like 1080 will change EVERYTHING!!! I may blend in a few shots of b roll in 4k just to give it a mix but this inspired me to go with 1080. Plus movies have looked amazing since way before 4k came out.

[@4sapphireb]

As a landscape photographer I switched from a 61 MP camera to a 1 MP. The 12 has much less noise and appears to have better quality and smokes it in low light. No one has the vision to tell the difference between

[@SCHIRMERSHOOTS]

I started with video content creation in 2019 and opted for the Fuji XH1 which was a good hybrid body at a fair price. It was great for a while but now I can feel how fast the tech is moving and I am feeling quite left behind in terms of the latest tech with simply not enough money to upgrade. This is quite reassuring to hear all these points as I have been feeling like my work is not good enough at 1080p. The XH1 does 4K at 24p but it is just not stable enough handheld and so I always end up shooting at 120fps in Eterna or sometimes in Log. I also do Blackbox stock footage and do sell a fair amount of footage in 1080p but wonder how long it will be relevant. Thanks for this video.

[@StrillLife]

Great points. A lot people ask me why I still shoot in 1080p. I do feel like I might be missing out on the stock footage angle. But I believe I shoot my drone footage in 4k.

[@TSCameraGear]

Its good money in stock footage, youd be suprised if you knew some of the clips ive sold. I actually made a video about it.

[@StrillLife]

@@TSCameraGear cool! I'll go through the catalog and check it out. Thanks for the heads up.

[@TSCameraGear]

@@StrillLife its this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6u0YWWhrr16rqM

[@evanmchugh8042]

Same here. As a fairly new wedding videographer I have learned that 4K is something that requires a fairly high budget to shoot. I shoot on the sony a6300+ lineup and I think If I were shooting 4k I'd need about 30 batteries per shoot. Another thing I've learned is you need either have an extremely fast computer to edit, or a very high amount of time, and patience to edit with 4k. Lol.

[@princegabytv7251]

Thank you for good descriptions.

[@TSCameraGear]

Glad you like em

[@luigibuffone-videos865]

Thank you for this information. Very helpful :)

[@TSCameraGear]

Glad you enjoyed it. Take care buddy.

[@AprilClayton]

Great advice. 4K takes forever to work with. Tired of generating optimized media in Davinci just to edit a small video.

[@randommemories19]

Great video and that's what I call a positive influence! Additional reasons to go 1080p: less e-waste and less digital garbage that humanity will leave behind

[@nineplanets3239]

Good video quality and content. Thanks!

[@TSCameraGear]

Glad you liked it

[@randomstuffman01]

Good info. Thanks. toronto canada Also, to get the better KZbin vp09 compression instead of avc, you can upscale 1080p to 1440p, 4k isn't necessary.

[@NewsQuestshorts]

Good content, you gave me good reasons to consider it (1080p)

[@MindzEyz]

I agree... one of the points I bring up, is that now we are seeing shows shot in 4k and the sets no longer sell as real. The set design has to be insanely good to pull off anything out of reality. Everything has kind of a fake vibe to it. I'm trying to find out what cameras have legendary 1080 and there is zero info. As far as I can tell, the Canon C300 m-ii has 12bit 4-4-4 1080... that's the best I've found. On the subject of 24p vs 30p: 24 isn't dead, but it should be. It makes me dizzy. Everything else is 30, 60, 90, 120, etc. 24 looks janky and jittery now. Blame sports, TV, and especially video games. When 90% of what you see is in 30 or 60, then you see people quick panning in 24 on KZbin, it just looks bad... it's not the Cinema folks. Just stop it.

[@captureinsidethesound]

How could 24-30fps make anyone dizzy when its based on how we see things in reality? Its actually the complete opposite. You get dizzy when you process more information per frame than what your eyes/brain has adapted to because that's all its need to distinguish differences in movement, color and light. Saying anything higher than 24fps is "better" will not get you far in the film making business because its not only insulting to true professionals and those who made it a standard but also makes you seem arrogant and ignorant.

[@MindzEyz]

@@captureinsidethesound I think you misread. I was saying that 24 is the problem, not 30, 60, etc. The 24 phenomenon is a real thing. Movie sets have a calculator that they use to make sure they don't pan too fast. A lot of people are bothered by it. Similarly how some people just can't handle 3d. Not every person is the same.

[@jfproductions24]

all this is so true! 4k files are pain to work with, you pretty much need to change you're entire workflow for just a little bit more quality which does not make you content any better. Great video!

[@Sutterjack]

A lot of good points - I still love my C100 M2 dinosaur camera from 2014 because it's got a 4K sensor that downsizes in camera to 1080 - really high quality HD and tiny file sizes. I've had a lot of 4k envy lately, but so many choices I'm not jumping ship yet as most my content ends up on KZbin and looks just fine in 1080. It's crazy to me that SD was a standard format for 60 years and then HD 1080 came along and everyone said "This is the future!" - Then less than 20 years later 4k is the standard. I really hope 4k stays the standard for a decent amount of years - the resolution wars are out of control

[@maxhammer4067]

yea canon xc10 does that too. and I still love that old camera 📷

[@barebarekun161]

1080p been the youtube's standard for 10 years though. 1080p wasn't a standard until Blu-ray and HD DVD came as anything on TV before were broadcast in 720p 1080i in very small numbers and most are still doing perfectly fine with analog SD broadcast. In My opinion we should have never abandoned analog TV broadcast. Even today I'm struggling to make use of native 4K on TV and Internet content as only Games and physical home media are the only ones that can reliably provided me that and even so they're not all that amazing like they want you to believe. Forget about cameras for what seemed like 10 years there price hasn't yet came down to affordable levels, sorry smartphones.

[@oeunouch]

Your video production is amazing!!

[@TSCameraGear]

thank you, so kind of you. :)

[@antoniomendez2881]

Is it? How? Explain please.

[@hotfootrabbit]

I know this video is 2 years old and you corrected one statement but I wanted to point out a few things. When 4k became mainstream almost no one was really editing it directly at 4k. Most would employed a proxy workflow where they would generate a lower resolution video file to edit with and then swap to the full resolution files of grading and VFX shots. This is especially true today when many 4k cameras can generate the proxy files while recording the high res files for example. I got my first 4k camera 8 years ago and I was able to work with the footage just fine on my dinosaur work computer using a proxy workflow. You are correct in that higher resolution by it's self does not instantly mean better quality however if you're working with proper equipment and you know what you're doing it does. 4k video is generally captured a higher bitrate than HD. If you record a shot at both resolutions on the same camera and you crop out a HD section from the the 4k one it will look better than the straight HD. Also due to the way that many 4k capable cameras record record HD footage, the HD video it is going to look noticeable worse. Most cameras these days capture 1080p by cropping in on the sensor or by pixel binning which basically throws away image information in reducing the resolution. Whereas 4k is down sampled from a 6k sensor for example, retaining much more information. If are going to use something like compressor to reduce your HD footage to smaller size when finished editing you can do the same with your 4k footage as well. Even convert it to HD while reducing it to h.265 so in the end it will take up no more space than if you shot it only in HD.

[@TSCameraGear]

Excellent points. Thanks for sharing.

[@lakinemedia9413]

Is that Better to film on 4k but experts videos on 1080 ? Or film directly 1080???

[@Gian-ni]

if my phone has a camera of 50MP, is that better than a videocamera of 1080p?

[@RugbyPass81]

I shoot 1080 because I detest being tethered to a computer for hours on end after a project, because I have a tonne of huge 4k and 6k files to work through. I hate it. So, whilst I have the option of everything up to 8k, I now shoot predominantly in 1080.

[@ErikLucatero]

If you're a filmmaker wanting to make short films and industry style narratives the i would recommend you film at the highest bit-rate, sensor quality you can. This will help you preserve you film and allow for a good master you can turn in to festivals or any media distribution center. If you are a KZbinr and or general social media content creator then shoot 1080 if you want and works better for you.

[@RugbyPass81]

I'd say that's a fairly fair recommendation, depending on what level said filmmaker is at. I'm a documentary filmmaker, I shoot for a range of brands, including national Geographic and I still use 1080 for around 60% of my work. The most recent project included about 120 hours worth of accumulated 1080 footage, about 20 was 4k. Luc Forsyth has alluded to the same/similar as me, as have others. Narrative filmmakers? Probably different, in fact I'm almost certain it's different. Case uses will okay a large part in this decision making process because, for example, a guy who is just starting out, even in storytelling narrative film or documentary, well that person has no place lusting after and debating whether he/she needs to be shooting in 4k, 6k and up, because he or she isn't even at a stage where they need to think about who they're aiming their deliverables at - they have no audience at that stage. If KZbin will be their primary method of reaching people to get their work see and critiqued, 1080 is still going to be more than enough, and more besides. They should be focussing on fundamentals; compelling story/script, lighting, movement, composition or framing, and so on - all the things that actually _do_ add production value to their work. As I told one young student who was asking me if she should make the jump to 8k "the cameras used to shoot Gone With The Wind are dead and gone and yet that film still screens regularly on TV and in cinemas around the world, and will continue to do so for a long time to come. What was it shot on? I can assure you it was shot on something that gave a softer image than even 1080 likely does; Fundamentals first, gear second , lighting and other things are more important than the camera gear you're shooting on. The camera, whilst important, isn't as crucial as the myriad other things you need to take into consideration" I still feel I have given that young lady sound advice.

[@pf1793]

Thank you👍

[@educatetube]

Very good points!

[@TSCameraGear]

glad you liked it

[@SuperOpinion8ed]

Decent video. Just ask for some sound treatment. The reverb is killing me. A heavy curtain behind the camera maybe would kill some reflections for starters.

[@vulcan4d]

Need more 2.7k support. You can upscale to 4k well or downscale to 1080p. That way you just dont have to worry what to record.

[@arefeshghi]

For shooting in-car scenes (while driving) and shooting nature, is the resolution more important or frame rate? Because we've shot some clips in 1080p, 30FPS and didn't check them. Now they don't look as vivid whilst the camera is moving. Is it possible that this is because of the rendering technique?

[@waynosfotoscameras]

Bit rate is far more important than resolution, why 1080p in a proper camera looks better than 4k out of a gopro. Resolution is not a good measure for quality.

[@user-qr1cu1in7e]

Great example, because I'm now trying to maximize my old smartphone to make a content. I's ok to have simpler gear to push your work better, at leat for learning purposes.

[@Back2SquareOne]

There are some good points made in this video. If you are a 1 man show, you really need to ask yourself if you can realistically justify shooting in 4K. The investment in 4K camera gear, processing and storage are only part of the cost. How much of your life do you want to spend behind the computer screen editing videos? How much unedited video do you already have laying around that you are avoiding actually editing? Getting your video as close to “right” straight out of the camera can save you many hours of your most precious cmmodity, your time. If you can afford a talented editor or you are shooting your visual masterpiece movie, then sure, shoot 4K. If, however, you are shooting vlogs, reviews, reactions, or interviews destined for the web, then 1080p makes a lot of sense.

[@joyoffilming9500]

Fully agree with you that 1080p is sufficient for many, if not most, cases. Anyway, I disagree with your argumentation of file-sizes in respect to uploading and archiving. Yes, 4K material takes 4 times more space and also processing time in your NLE. But, what really drives upload times is not the resolution - it's the selection of the right (or wrong) codecs and the bitrates. And, for media archival I can only recommend to take advantage of tools such Media Management in DaVinci Resolve. This allows to trim down your projects with all the footage to exactly what was used in your timeline(s). So, for quality reasons, I shoot with my iPhone 13 ProMax in ProRes 422 (10bit) in HLG - yes, the files are insanely huge. But, after the edit and Media Management applied in DR, the typical residual storage capacity needed for archiving at original codec is around 10-15% of the footage shot.

[@evanmchugh8042]

Great video. I don't think many million dollar productions like netflix are shooting 1080 though. From what I have heard, big companies like them have 4k minimum requirements. Anyhow, it Makes me glad to know that alot of others are still commonly using 1080. I began shooting weddings just over a year ago. I use an a6500 and an a6300 which are both capable of 4k, but I think I would need about 25 batteries to last the entire day. Let alone the overheating issues throughout a 12-13 hour day of shooting. Nice video.

[@TSCameraGear]

Yeah lot of people have pointed that out. Just a few years ago production companies did shoot and edit in 1080p. I guess times have changed.

[@SuperOpinion8ed]

Netflix doesn’t even accept “4K”. They have specific requirements even to the equipment they allow. Not just any 4K but on approved equipment. We’ve been looking at some decent 4-8k cameras and cameras across this requirement. We’re not filming for Netflix but it was interesting to learn it (certain black magic cameras). We’re starting a KZbin channel and I think there may be value in shooting 4K and then adding grain or noise or whatever in post. But start with a great master and then add effects for the desired result.

[@speedgliding]

HOW do you stop youtube compression from turning your 1080P into pure mud??? When I upload 4K is looks amazing after youtube compression. When I upload 1080P it looks like GARBAGE after youtube compression. Whats the secret?

[@nyanyamero]

Just upscale 1080 to 4k, yt i think uses a different bit rate in 4k videos. I know many people do this. A pro tip.

[@jayalberto7638]

Render it in 1080p 60fps

[@BRONZALiVE]

I’m getting started in videography, I have an iPhone 15 pro which can shoot at 4k 60fps and it’s fine to upload and edit small reels/videos straight to Instagram and the slow motion is great at 60fps, but I needed an actual camera, so i didn’t just rely on my iPhone, I picked up the Sony ZVE10 it’s a good entry level camera, and in my price range and it shoots in 4k 30fps and I shot a video in this format and wow the file sizes are insane, 60 secs of footage is like 12gb, and it’s just not possible unless I have a more powerful and advanced pc, so I simply shoot my videography at 1080p 50fps, and I can slow the footage and manage to edit it no problems, and it still looks great, and the slow motion editing is great at 50fps, I guess for more Advanced and people who can afford powerful and reliable external storage shoot in 4k. And even though my iPhone 15 pro is technically more advanced and capable video wise then my Sony zve10 it still isn’t a manageable way to answer calls, also shoot all my footage on iPhone, so best of both worlds

[@TSCameraGear]

*reason 8 - most social media plattforms dont do higher than 1080p anyway.* (can you think of any more reasons, comment below)

[@TSCameraGear]

reason 9 - 1080p on smartphones have better image stabilisation than 4K. (probably because the smartphone films in 4K and crops and downsamples to 1080).

[@EmberSkyMedia]

reason 10 - Most people can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K unless they are played side by side. I mix and match 1080p (upscaled) and 4K content on my videos all the day and zero complaints so far.

[@markshirley01]

I've no option I have to shoot in 1080 as I use a Nikon D750. I did watch a video by Mattias Burling tho that said the 1080 from the D750 was a bit magical because of the flexibility in post. It is one of the considerations on my next camera as I know the Z6 has great 1080p.

[@TSCameraGear]

there is 1080p, and there is 1080p. Some of my cameras shoot extremely good in 1080p.

[@paulsoddsends8967]

My opinion is that the Human eye is limited to how good something looks on TV screens? I tried 4K recently but my editing software (Serif Movie X6) that I've used for 16 years without problem simply couldn't cope with 4K. Back to 1080p.

[@omegafire6253]

4k content is really beneficial on 100 inch screen or higher.

[@danielduesentriebjunior]

There is judder in your report as soon as you are panning the camera. The reason is that you are recording at 24fps. Same judder results when recording at 25 or 50fps, to some extent also at 30fps. Only 60fps lead to a smooth result when panning the camera. Before you say that you can't see this please pan a landscape at a constant medium panning velocity at these various framerates and compare the results.

[@zhivu-vopreki]

I shoot 1080p 60fps, I choose 60 fps only because youtube puts less compression on it compare to 30 or 24 fps.

[@camposvazquez]

Do you also upload your 1080/60fps in 4k?

[@BigJoe1]

I do it as well but just beacuse 4k takes too much space to save and upload

[@TSCameraGear]

exactly. its way more practical to use 1080p content.

[@haniyokokura8390]

What can you recommend that has the best 60fps in 1080p?? Budget is below $100-300 if there is a camera with that specs 😭 used for cinematic video clips mostly of just daily life.

[@LearningJesus]

You can probably find something for that price but it isn’t going to be very good quality 1080p footage. You pay for what you get in the videography area.

[@s-Ross]

Can you make an update video to this one? Would you stand with your opinion also for 2024?

[@TSCameraGear]

I should make a sequel to this video (that was very popular for some reason).

[@frostwise87]

youve sold me, cheers dude

[@TSCameraGear]

:)

[@frostwise87]

@@TSCameraGear seriously, I was all out to buy a 4k camera for video, prob Nikon (as I have some lenses) and found exactly the problem you mentioned. 4k = expensive unless they are a crap camera hwere 1080p cameras that are brilliant are rife for under £300

[@EmberSkyMedia]

Umm… “The BatMan” was shot at 4.5K Anamorphic using Arri LF and Mini LF, so who ever told you it was 1080p lied to you.

[@TSCameraGear]

you're a bit nitpicky there. :) and a bit hung up on details. MOST movies in the last 10 years are shot in 1080p digital.

[@TSCameraGear]

or 2K as they like to call it.

[@EmberSkyMedia]

@@TSCameraGear They may play that in some theaters (surprising number of theaters only have 2K projectors) but the master files of the film were shot in 4.5K anamorphic.

[@djmatt1]

@@TSCameraGear I'm afraid Ember Sky Media is correct, there are very few films being shot in 1080p, most are being shot in 4k-12k, especially in Hollywood, it's about having maximum information to work with in post,.

[@universaInformation]

@@TSCameraGear most movies for the past 10 years shoot on 2.5k arri alexa.

[@Work_G]

Yes it makes sense but I remember times when people said 720p for KZbin videos is plenty and it will be good for long and now people attempting for 8k

[@TSCameraGear]

I do remember.. I remember when 720p was the gold standard. I remember wishing i could have a camera that could shoot in 720p.

[@luckylotus11]

Can u tell me if u uploaded this video of urs in 1080p or 4k...?? For such clarity even in 480p..?? Please answer coz i am a new you tuber and i am struggling for clear video uploads ..😓

[@XaneVidz]

Says 1080

[@choppergirl]

THis makes me happy, because all my video editing myself is done in 1080p. Rendered out in 1080p. KZbin videos watched by myself in... 144p. Yeah. NO kidding. Watched this in 144p. Not 1440p. 144p.

[@TSCameraGear]

144p is hardcore :)

[@looptimelapse]

if i sell footage online, is 1080 going obsolete there? any idea?

[@TSCameraGear]

Pretty much just as good except they pay Less for 1080p. And they usually buy 1080p versions of my 4k. So that tells you something

[@looptimelapse]

@@TSCameraGear Ty

[@mosswareproaudio6328]

Are you shooting this with different lenses or is your weight fluctuating from scene to scene?

[@TSCameraGear]

I think its both actually.

[@rekab7070]

Have you found any difference in color saturation in 4K versus 1080p? I am curious because you achieve wonderful color effects on your indoor shots.

[@TSCameraGear]

thats a very good question. I can think of theories why the resolution would affect the color, but also why it should not. I would say that 1080p feels like the colors are a bit soft, and 4k feels to have richer color contrasts. But its most likely an effect from getter a sharper image. Meaning its probably not true. Does that make sense? Have a nice weekend

[@rekab7070]

Yes, that makes sense to me. Thank you! @@TSCameraGear

[@oblukanetv5574]

Can you recommend a camera that gives a very nice image in 1080p 60 fps under 1000$?

[@TSCameraGear]

How about the sony ZV-1?

[@Jutsch80HD]

Even if the footage is 1080p, I'd always upload to youtube in 4k, simply for the higher bitrate

[@marcheighton6436]

Thanks very interesting. I'm a cheapskate. Can't afford the latest GoPro I have a hero7 or PC mines an old dell. 1080 suits me and the kit I have. And uploads don't take all day. And yes I can get so much more on my SD cards. Cheers 👍👍👍

[@seanjamescameron]

I've been filming and uploading in 4k for years but am interested in why the majority of the top youtubers I follow film in 4k but upload in 1080p - thank you for this video. I'm a gardening/nature channel so always felt 4k was better.

[@africanhistory]

100% it is better. Take what people say on KZbin with a grain of salt! I have no idea what this guy is on about.

[@zainventuri7881]

@Sean`s Gardening World. The reason why youtubers including my self shoot 1080p and upload in 4k is because the compression alogorithm is more adavnced especialy in the blacks. Less digital artifacting and grain in low light.

[@danielduesentriebjunior]

@@zainventuri7881 That is absolutely right. If you upload 1080p you get an inferior compression algoritm compared to the one you get at 4K. You may upscale 1080p material to 4K and upload this to KZbin for obtaining the better algoritm.

[@antoniomendez2881]

​@@zainventuri7881 Can you read? He said they film in 4k and post in 1080p.

[@eri7-11]

@@danielduesentriebjunior I uploaded 1080 as 4k for the better compression but omg they put a horrible 360 version for the first two hours and it looked awful. I should have left it orivate or something until the two hours was over.

[@MostlyDrones]

This could make sense. I have 52 tv programs and only one that shows in 4K

[@Sniffyboy]

You had me before the duster jacket suite…

[@markgilder9990]

Glad I found this advice. My eyesight isn’t the best And personally I can’t see a lot of difference between the 2. 1080 is fine for me, but then again I’m not making a living from film making😂

[@BurfieldPhoto1]

A slightly odd video. It's absolutely untrue that the majority of films and streaming shows today are captured in 1080p. Netflix, for example, has required 4K capture for the last eight years. And of the most commonly used digital cinema cameras in the last 20 years, only one is 2K resolution - the Panavision Genesis. I haven't seen a Genesis on set in over ten years. Even the Alexa is rapidly being replaced with the Alexa LF. Having said that, I think even bringing up films was pointless because your target audience is content creators, and they have completely different considerations to filmmakers (take Autofocus for example, irrelevant for filmmakers, critical for most content creators). You do actually make some solid arguments for content creators capturing in 1080p, I'd just drop the irrelevant and incorrect statements about filmmaking.

[@TSCameraGear]

yes its been brought to my attention that I was wrong about that statement. But 10 years ago the 2K statement was true. I still think its a valid point, because most people can't see the difference between 4K and 2K. Just consider the fact that I made the error. Not even noticing that everything has shifted to 4K.

[@antoniomendez2881]

​@@TSCameraGear STOP arguing. Why are you fixated on what took place 10 years ago. Admit your wrong. Thumbs down for being stubborn.

[@consciouscoma85]

I run into too many snags when shooting in 4k and its not worth the trouble. .it looks great for my own purpose. the human eye can only see so much anyway. its overkill.

[@lebooshdiaries]

Hi, great video. Your other channel bearing your own name is now shot in 4k. Does it mean that you have changed your mind about shooting in 1080p?

[@TSCameraGear]

I dont think 4k make a difference for the viewer. But as a content creator you want to present your work in the best possible quality. And so i’m often torn between these two pats. But i can tell you that my most viewed video this year was shot and released in 1080p. (On my tech channel)

[@lebooshdiaries]

@@TSCameraGear I understand emotions. i see all content creators shooting in 4k and i feel like i am gonna be left behind shooting in 1080p. but i also believe you are right about the viewer. most don't care. thanks for the reply.

[@EmberSkyMedia]

Few things I feel you miss-explained in your video: 1. sharpness While you CAN film at a 1080p workflow, sharpness is a function of the glass, sensor down sampling, and compression algorithms. 2. Computer editing However if you pick a high compression (smaller files) you’ll need a beefier computer to edit. While larger less compressed file formats allow for faster editing (and avoiding proxies) at the sack of storage space. 3. Image Quality/Detail When it comes to image quality in detail, if you film at 4K downsample to 1080p you generally get a lot more fine details in the image then you would if you just filmed with a camera that records straight 1080 P via lineskipping/binning off a high resolution sensor. While the compression does reduce the amount of detail in the final image versus a true 4K video file… It will show blemishes and other facial effects because instead of skipping that detail it’s actually gone and down-res & sharpened as part of the process. There are some workarounds for this, pro mist filters etc. to “soften” the harshness, it’s not straight 1080p is “blurrier” than 4K to a notable effect. 4. Delivery Format Depending on who the client’s final output format requirements should determine what resolution you require. If you are just uploading to KZbin and video quality is not high on your requirements then filming at 1080 P is perfectly fine. But if you are shooting for commercial, wedding, film etc. you will likely still find that they require 4K raw footage as the delivery medium these days. Even if their plan is to downsample from that 4K footage and edit at 1080p. Just wanted to clear up some confusion but I felt your video might cause a casual viewer.

[@TSCameraGear]

wow, thats a lot of nitpicking, but I appreciate it. 01 say what you want, but 4K looks sharper than 1080p to me. :) 02 yes, h265 files are tougher to edit, but in general 4K clips have always demanded more from my computer to edit. even if less compressed than 1080 clips. Has to do with resolution not bitrate, and also the export in 4K. 03 I agree with this. and I demonstrate it in my 8K vs 4K video. I haven't tested pro mist yet. Been thinking of trying it out. 04 obviously if you are a pro, 4K is a standard these days.and as I mention in the end of the video, thats why I shoot in 4K, for my stock footage. (pro work). :) have a nice day.

[@EmberSkyMedia]

@@TSCameraGear Nitpicking yes. but if somoene watches your video and does not understand some underlining pricipals they may walk away with the wrong impression. 1. 4K is sharper, 1080p downsampled from 4K is sharp, 1080p depending on the camera pixel density can end up looking a bit "soft". #2 I guess my point was someone might take what you said in the video that for best results film at H.265 @ 1080p and they might be shooting themselves in the foot i they don't have a powerful computer to edit the really compressed files. #4 I shoot stock as well, 4K all the time and I've had clients who insist on 4K raw even if the output is 1080p.

[@Wildbom]

If there was a Sony camera where 4K is downsampled into 1080p 10bit, I would instantly buy it. The newer cameras from Sony looks like their 1080p is just 1080p with no downsampling.

[@Dantemjn]

Hi! Thanks for the informative video 😊. I still have my Lumix GH1 hacked. Will it be alright if I can record on 1080p then upscale it to 4k using ai?

[@TSCameraGear]

I dont see why not

[@maxhammer4067]

so if I shoot in 1080p I look pretty 😍 I look like George clooney, I'm sold.

[@petrub27]

This is not a good strategy. Most of the social media content is delivered in rec709 8bit, but when recording your images you should use raw/log, as many k as possible, and 10/12bit. Then, you downscale to rec 709 8 bit 1080p.

[@jaboris2536]

When you say downscale what do you mean?

[@razorbackroar]

i wanna know what looks better indoors. 1080p or 4K

[@UKHeritageRailways]

It's nothing to do with resolution. It's how you light it and the amount of light you use. Crap will look like crap in either.

[@UKHeritageRailways]

If you want to work with UHD footage you can always set your timeline to 1080 while you edit, and then change it to 2160 UHD before you render. This will lighten the load on your computer.

[@TSCameraGear]

Thats right, its called proxy editing.

[@UKHeritageRailways]

@@TSCameraGear No, proxies are something you generate separately. For instance you can generate proxies from within DaVinci Resolve or use the standalone Proxy Generator, to create lighter more edit friendly codecs.

[@mohdfarzankhan991]

3840*1600 is 4k or not

[@Texasphotoguy]

Also most people are watching content on a phone.

[@Hypno_BPM]

and most phones now play 4K HDR hell most peoples phones are better than their tvs 😂

[@RugbyPass81]

​@@Hypno_BPMThis is true, but shooting 4k, for people to go ahead and view that content on a tiny little screen is overkill. I shot over 120 days worth of documentary for a major network last year, and all of that was 1080 - a hell of a lot of deliverables are still 1080. I have the option of shooting 4k, I mean mate, I can shoot up to 8k on my current equipment, but I never do. I'd say 80-90% of my work for networks such as National Geographic is still 1080.

[@Hypno_BPM]

@@RugbyPass81 really ? NatGeo stuff i see on Disney Plus that’s within the past couple of years is Dolby Vision 4K. i’m not saying everything has to be 4K cause 1080p still looks great especially with a good tv that upres’s.

[@cotyshotyou]

Great drinking game actually, take a shot everytime you hear the word "Shoot" or "Shooting"

[@Pwt9x]

Handsome sir 🔥🔥

[@TSCameraGear]

indeed

[@macabespeed]

First in comments, watching now!

[@TSCameraGear]

congratulations! :)

[@Keenonhang]

Does shooting in 1080p help a camera from overheating?

[@JayandSarah]

Absolutely. The demands on the processor are far less.

[@Arbigale]

1080 P + Great Content = The Majority of the World… Lots of top KZbin vids that have Millions of views… even @ 720 p

[@uniktbrukernavn]

I watch youtube on my secondary monitor and a Samsung TV, both are still 1080p. I don't notice that it's "only" 1080p unless I use the little gear icon to switch to 4k. Yesterday I tried 4k on my phone and I struggled to see the difference even though the video showed the exact same scenes. On my 1440p monitor it's much more noticeable when switching but it doesn't change whether or not I'm watching the video. I'm sure Casei Neistat is shooting in 4k and his editing is "amazing" but in the end but in the end I'm not watching because his content isn't for me. Marues Brownlee shoots everything in 256k and the production value is amazing, but I'm not buying a new phone twice a day so I'm not watching. He got a production team so for him it makes sense to max out on the technology. Stock footage usually lacks a strong subject so it should be in the best resolution possible and let the client decide what to do with it. Movies or shorts have strong subjects and often use bokeh to separate them from the background, your eyes don't wander as much to look at a blade of super sharp grass in the background. Unless TV's get a lot bigger or we sit way closer it's hard to really see the quadrupling in data and the effort behind it. My Nikon D750 only supports 1080p and so does my computer (I suspect). It can be fun to play around with a short 4k clip but once you fill up your timeline and try to scrub, add effects, transitions, noise reduction, it'll date your computer and your wallet will hide. 4k doesn't make me wanna watch something but bad audio can ruin a video. I'm not listening to hard clipping and wind noises for more than 2.3 seconds :)

[@creativevisiongaming]

Your comment about the Avengers shooting in 1080p is not accurate. There were a few shots in done in 1080p but most of the film as in 35mm film, Super 35mm and ARRIRAW 2.8K downsampled to 2K. I think to compete with film you need a bit higher than 1080p. Film can be pretty detailed, if you get a good scan. You can enlarge a film image a lot more than a 1080p image without noticeable degradation. So if you want to compete with the quality of film I think you should at least be 2.8K raw from what I've seen.

[@TSCameraGear]

Still not 4k ;)

[@creativevisiongaming]

​@@TSCameraGear Nice try, but my point still remains that it's better to have a master higher than 1080p, if you're concerned about quality, even if you're only outputting to 1080p. And actually I'm reading that Avengers Infinity War was shot in 6k and 8K, so they're only going higher, but they're just not releasing it in that high of a resolution, it's just for the master files. The specs I gave were for the first avengers movie which came out 10 years ago. Maybe using 4K wasn't convenient then, but using it now is more than doable with modern computers and cheap memory. The average person only has the option of 1080p or 4K. With that choice, I think 4k is better because you have more flexibility and you could easily make your 4k less detailed if you needed that for a certain situation.

[@sillywwabbit]

@@TSCameraGear According to IMDB, it was filmed with Arri Alexa IMAX in 6K ArriRAW format, which is higher resolution (and more color depth) than 4K. The higher resolution was selected so as to have the best master to work from.

[@AirPixelProMedia]

I still film in 480p even better!

[@pgtips4240]

Your video LOOKS like 1080p to me though! I can see a clear difference in yours compared to a good 4k video so in this alone my mind is made up for 4k. I don't know how anyone can claim 1080p looks like 4k, it's simply doesn't no matter how high the bitrate. If im wrong then please provide a link to an example.

[@123zjbs]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lamQpmujirh5qdU

[@JeffBourke]

But not all cameras can properly shoot 1080 without pixel binning.

[@TSCameraGear]

true

[@homeworkpictureshq]

Done bro

[@africanhistory]

Where did you read That Batman was shot in 1080? I am really curious on why anyone in Hollywood would do that. A quick search shows they shot between 4k and 6K. makes no sense to shoot a million dollar film in HD when they have to deliver to 4K platforms. You will not see more wrinkles in 4K if you are a professional b/c they use something called FILTERS!

[@TSCameraGear]

read first post. :)

[@djodjamel862]

😊

[@designthinkingwithgian]

Does youtube algorithm prioritize 4K videos though?

[@RockTo11]

The frame rate of this video really doesn't work on a computer monitor.

[@SIDEWINDOWDEFLECTORneverdilate]

ALSO NEVER EVER render where it speeds it up it reduces quality

[@Kmietol83]

I shoot in 1080. My PC is too slow to edit 4K ;) Most people watch on their smartphones anyway....

[@TSCameraGear]

Its true

[@mikexhotmail]

2:45 moral of the story

[@brandonburum8279]

I still prefer 720p60. It also drives me nuts that most 1080p is still compressed to something like 4.2.0 chroma subsampling. As far as I can tell, that means we aren’t even getting full 1080p yet. So… scratch 4K unless you need 4K to get all the pixels of a 1080 image individually coded.

[@danielduesentriebjunior]

In Europe many TV stations are sending at 720p and the picture is perfectly fine. Switching to a chanel with 1080p does not really add something that would be missed at 720p. 4K was an industry hype and selling trick and 8K is even more so.

[@brandonburum8279]

@@danielduesentriebjunior - I assume 720p is compressed as well, but that just adds to the point that we don’t need 4K… just better use of the pixels we already have.

[@danielduesentriebjunior]

@@brandonburum8279 I cannot say what compression TC stations are using at 720p. However, compared to 1080p stations I cannot reliably tell a difference. I was at an optician recently and my visus was 125%, somewhat better than average.

[@LearningJesus]

Some of you got some serious studying to do on this subject and I say that respectfully. 4K is better for MANY reasons, just as 1080p is better than 720p for MANY reasons. In the videographer world 720p immediately creates a “yuck” reaction 😂

[@LearningJesus]

@@danielduesentriebjunior if you have better than average vision but cant tell the difference between 720, 1080, and 2560 then you def dont have above average vision. I dont have above average vision and I can immediately point out quality differences in videos regardless of what i’m watching on.

[@travelfoodielove]

Lol George Clooney - ya sexier 😅

[@waynosfotoscameras]

Not sure if you are taking the Pi$$, but you are right, but for the wrong reasons. If you are uploading to social media you are completely wasting your time shooting in 4k. The real reason why. It has to do with the application compression. Most cameras shoot in at least 100mbps, yes bit rate, not resolution is important. KZbin and some other not so popular apps do support 4k but only up to around 40/50mbps (subject to streaming speeds). Therefore, even from gopro footage 100mbps, the image is over half compressed, other apps are compressing to under 10mbps and only support 1080p. So all that data you are collecting in your super expensive camera is mute for social media. Yes, if you know you are going to crop in heavily, 4k may help. But otherwise, you can't tell the difference between 4k and 1080p after you upscale 1080p. I have done it! Try for yourself if you don't believe me. AS TO BETTER CAMERAS, Yes, a 10-bit image allows you to shoot in log and push the image around more, but this is more an editing aid. It is a lot more complex than just what I have mentioned here, and better cameras do give you a better final Image, but 4k LOOKS BETTER no.

[@garfieldirwin]

Shoot 4k, output 1080.

[@TSCameraGear]

Yeah thats a good way to get good quality 1080p. Some people do the opposite. They shoot in 1080p, and upscale to 4K.

[@garfieldirwin]

@@TSCameraGear I like having the flexibility to crop, as you mentioned. But completely agree that 4k output is not needed for social media. Even where it's supported (KZbin) most consumption is on devices that can't make use of it so...

[@Jgheiler]

​@@TSCameraGearwhat would be the difference between shooting 4k uploading in 1080 and shooting 1080 uploading in 4k?

[@newyorkcitycomics6702]

Not really in tune with you on this video but that being said I would love to shoot in 1080p but if you upload 1080p to KZbin you get the crap codec AVC. That looks terrible compared to the VP9. I'd be willing to pay KZbin 20 bucks a month if they would allow me to upload 1080 and still get the codec VP9. Unless you have huge numbers if subscribers and views they won't give it to you unless you upload in the hi rez. That alone forces me to shoot 4K as I am a serial pixel peeper when it comes to video quality. All the reasons you mentioned are true but who cares. More work and storage is cheap so rock on ;)

[@TSCameraGear]

if you check the stat on the video it actually is in VP9. :)

[@markshirley01]

Why not shoot in 1080 and scale up to 4K.

[@xkben90]

You can go VP9 codec but you must export your 1080 video as 4K. It tricks KZbin into thinking it’s in 4K, so it switches from AVC to VP9. I’ve tested this many times.

[@xkben90]

@@TSCameraGear it only goes to VP9 in 1080 mode if 1) you export in 4K or 2) you have a healthy subscriber/view base. For people with low subscribers, 1080 automatically transcodes to AVC instead of VP9.

[@kiranstickanimations8589]

My budget phone has 1080p camera

[@E27043]

You can shoot in 1080p but then you should upload in 4k otherwise the low bitrate of the 1080p setting on youtube will make the video very pixellated and you can see it very clearly in this video. Watching it on a normal 1080p 24 inch screen.

[@UKHeritageRailways]

Yes you can shoot in 1080 like I do, But I upscale to 2160 UHD for KZbin to get much better quality playback.