Restarting a OTTB- Relaxation and Impulsion

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Ryan Rose

Ryan Rose

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@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to follow Flows progress or ask specific questions about your horse you can do that on my patreon page. www.patreon.com/Ryanrosehorsemanship
@ejh6022
@ejh6022 3 жыл бұрын
Nice mare! When they are allowed to stretch and relax while being ridden horses usually enjoy it. Years of people riding her by simultaneously pulling with the reins and pushing with their legs (sort of like driving a car with one foot on the accelerator and one on the brake) taught her to stiffen her body, brace against the bit and bolt. Not using both reins to stop her, softening the aids, separating the use of the hands and of the legs and teaching her that the reins don't mean stop or go, but relax, soften and give is going to balance her mind and give her years of rideability. Great work. Would like to see more vids of her progress if possible.
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely. That’s the plan, although some videos will be on my patreon page as well. Thanks
@barbaragreene6592
@barbaragreene6592 3 жыл бұрын
I had an OTTB, that raced until he was 7. He was awesome n the best trail riding horse I have ever owned. More people need to give them a chance.
@kims2735
@kims2735 3 жыл бұрын
That was super Ryan. This horse is actually transitioning to a happier horse before our eyes. I amm happy for her.
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@jeanniehobbs1433
@jeanniehobbs1433 3 жыл бұрын
I had an OTQH (Appendix) that my friends entered as a joke in an English Pleasure show. They dolled us all up with braids and baby oil and a postage stamp saddle and a snaffle (ye gods) and threw me into an amateur class of 6. The joke was on them as we placed 3rd with notes like "very forward" and "nice impulsion" as I was out there trying to slow my horse down and get her to not run over the other competitors! Had to go back to the ranch and practice things like you do here to get her off her high horse lol. The minute she felt that snaffle in her mouth she decided we were going racing.
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@sidilicious11
@sidilicious11 3 жыл бұрын
She started out so bracey, ready for discomfort from a bit. It was nice to see her head come down and her body relax.
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@joycee5493
@joycee5493 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, this works. Did this with my big OTTB mare that ran for 6.5 years....big chestnut. No one wanted to ride her..... braced a lot, nervous and had poor balance. She is now happy and relaxed and rides like a pleasure horse. Another thing I still do sometimes is drop the reins or lead rope and let her take me wherever she wants to. One time she took me over to the stockade fence along the neighbors property...put her head up high and got a good look at their pool...lol...from then on she no longer spooked at the fence... no lions on the other side...just a pool!
@marylamb56
@marylamb56 3 жыл бұрын
Great intuitive and study of this great herd animal. From what I get from your teaching, is this. The slower you go, the faster you get there with the horse who has been through a lot of pressures/ anxiety.Wonderful to watch the trust that this horse is understanding and receiving from you! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️😎👍🏻🐴
@chrisunderwood2524
@chrisunderwood2524 3 жыл бұрын
What I have come to learn about race horses..is no matter what the breed...they have been bred to run....I bought a five yr old standard bred..off of the track in a claiming race....all her stuff came with her..bridel, snaffle bit, stable jacket, leg wraps...my intentions for her was to help on the farm to bring in the cattle...and take them out again...but once a steer got passed her, she went into racing speed...and was extremely hard to slow down..until she ran it out.....one day I was in a very old tack shop and looking for something different in a bit...an elderly man came and asked me what was I trying to do...so I explained..the situation, he said come here...and showed me some hack Amore's....he told me her training was a certain bit..and that is what she is triggered by...remove it...and teacher her this new way..and in this teaching he showed me what to do in the round pen, on ground training..and with this it was teaching her to be neck reined...she was doing great...on this method...and once I felt she got it..on her back I went....she turned into a fabulous ranch horse, and settled down, and just loved her new job... No more bits...just a gentle pressure on the rein..and for a horse that only seen horse trailer and track her whole life...she was remarkable at getting down to push the cattle.....and not letting even one get out of place...she did not require all that ground handling, just a few lessons in ground work on the hack a more and the change of the reins..instead of direct steering, over to neck reining..and she caught on real fast...worked her on cattle, trail rides, until arthritis claimed her front legs.about seven years later....then she became our pasture pet..a good rest and retirement....
@coffeegirl6854
@coffeegirl6854 3 жыл бұрын
I had a wonderful neighbor who owned a riding stable. I worked for him as a young teen. It was a renting stable. He had a number of horses that had been at the tracks. They really were very nice. A bit high sprung! They were well taken care of by my boss.
@TaoYingarrani
@TaoYingarrani 3 жыл бұрын
You have such patience with her. I love how gentle you are in handling this mare and you are starting her off bitless in order to reteach her.
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@lichtfuchse5263
@lichtfuchse5263 3 жыл бұрын
That's great, lots of food for thought, not only for ottb, but also for every other (reactive) horse. Thanks a lot for this!
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@brinaw8491
@brinaw8491 Жыл бұрын
This video helped me with my TWH who is all go, go go, fighting the bit. Halter and round pen for now.
@singlepointdc7749
@singlepointdc7749 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best channels on training and horse psychology. Keep ‘em coming, Ryan.
@teresaedwards1591
@teresaedwards1591 Жыл бұрын
What a difference you helped her learn to manage herself and enjoy my Buster is Saddlebred with TB he's also his head up all the time I will teach him this
@tailsnatched4642
@tailsnatched4642 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure why I haven’t found your channel before, you are amazing! This will definitely help me with my hot thoroughbred. Thank you!
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you found it!
@christinesibona6553
@christinesibona6553 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are very helpful to me. I just started watching them less than a month ago and I've already learned a lot. What I like about this video in particular is that you offer background info on the horse. I'm probably not finding the correct sequence of videos on a particular horse and how it improves. But just wanted to share that the brief intro helped me gain additional perspective.
@marylamb56
@marylamb56 3 жыл бұрын
The predator, working to reach across the isle with the herd animal. To be in union. To be be a team. A dance partner. Love your hard work to accomplish this! 😎👍🏻⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Thank you again, Ryan Rose! Hats off!
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@kajinsautumn9833
@kajinsautumn9833 3 жыл бұрын
I am finally able to get out on the trails with my TWH after 2 hip replacements and the trails are drying up. I used to ride him in a Dr. Cooks but he did not like it at all! I have tried various bitless bridles but I am finding out he does the best in a plain old rope halter! He used to rush everywhere but now he is so relaxed. Even though he just turned 21, he still has a lot of GO so it is nice to have a relaxed horse. Thanks for your wonderful training tips!
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad your back in the saddle. 👍
@SB-od1pn
@SB-od1pn Жыл бұрын
Ryan, you make it all look so easy!! Great work!
@jordanw4922
@jordanw4922 3 жыл бұрын
So many nuggets of wisdom in this 👏🏼 thanks for sharing!
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
You bet! 👍
@chevelle68100
@chevelle68100 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know who retrained my OTTB, but they did a fine job. He was the smartest and best horse. Bombproof for sure. And such a confident and easy going guy.
@suzanneyorkville
@suzanneyorkville 3 жыл бұрын
very nice. funny thing...just yesterday I was telling someone that I always ride horses in a halter and they gave me grief because they said you cannot get a horse going right without a bit. then I see this and I'm feeling good.....I feel a whole lot safer without a bit as I am getting to know a horse.
@sidilicious11
@sidilicious11 3 жыл бұрын
I’m starting my 7 year old easily excited gelding, who we’ve owned for 5 years. He doesn’t like the bitless bridles I’ve had on him. The only thing he likes on his head is the light weight rope halter, so that’s what I’m riding him in. So far I’m onlyy riding in my 60’ round pen and he is so calm and seems to enjoy our little rides! He’s so sensitive that I barely have to touch the reins. So far so good!
@myaccount2825
@myaccount2825 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I love how you “speak horse” unlike so many other horse people. We know way too many who just want to overpower and make the horse do whatever instead of the small steps and the pressure/release at the correct times. Speaking the horse language is so vital. I forward your videos to my daughter and tell her to get her pen and notebook out to start taking notes. Lol
@hannahsms3816
@hannahsms3816 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you're teaching the low head and give rather than forcing it with martingales. This method really finds and corrects the root of the problem instead of the symptoms.
@Ako-Ako44
@Ako-Ako44 3 жыл бұрын
Waou on more nice video of your horseman ship - love watching - and enjoy all your competent horsement ship sharing. Watching - listening - learning👍. Keep on posting more videos👍.
@bevgill3180
@bevgill3180 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the methods so well.
@MeadowCreekFarmLife
@MeadowCreekFarmLife 3 жыл бұрын
Love seeing TBs in western tack! Also love rope halter work.
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@wondertatilo
@wondertatilo 3 жыл бұрын
Magnifique travail ! Great work ! I am a new follower of yours and I really enjoy watching you work with horses. You inspire me much for how to work my horses. Merci, Ryan :)
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dawnaustin4556
@dawnaustin4556 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty girl and is catching on quick! Good work!
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MonarchywcueXD2195
@MonarchywcueXD2195 3 жыл бұрын
I loveeee your videos and your explanations are so easy to follow. Using all your videos to restart my OTTB
@glynisveldman5149
@glynisveldman5149 3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! It is so great to see the mind kick in and relax the body .
@coffeegirl6854
@coffeegirl6854 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for these videos♥️🐎
@NewYearGrandpa
@NewYearGrandpa 2 жыл бұрын
This is really good info. Love that mare. OTTBs are very reactive and flighty. Former racers are used to grabbing bit on the track to get ready to go faster pace. They have to be retrained to slow down and not grab the bit so when people need to stop can use brakes and mean stop instead of “go faster”. This one is a complex one .
@DanaGatlin
@DanaGatlin 3 жыл бұрын
love this - and yes, feel is very hard to teach, but you do a great job of teaching it
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@roosalwaysthesun8759
@roosalwaysthesun8759 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Ryan, you clearly tell me how to do it best, very happy about it. Roos 🙋🏻‍♀️👍🏻💪🏻
@hannahhering655
@hannahhering655 3 жыл бұрын
Loved it! Very informative, thank you.
@sharroon7574
@sharroon7574 2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughbreds are so smooth
@gabriellafrenchfry3413
@gabriellafrenchfry3413 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks this really helped my horse is an ottb and she has impulsion its not as bad as this horse but when I ask her to canter she goes into a slow gallop I have tried to use less commands aka just clicking nothing else and she would still go to the slow gallop sometimes she will even go into a fast gallop etc
@tinadye1072
@tinadye1072 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work. I just wish your rear girth wasn’t so loose!
@abigail1023
@abigail1023 3 жыл бұрын
What an elegant beauty. She'll learn no one is going to whip her and force her race anymore.
@marylamb56
@marylamb56 3 жыл бұрын
Just for fun ........ Great song for her...... starting over, by Chris Stapleton! Thank you Ryan Rose! 👍🏻😎👌🐴
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
👍👌
@samanathahatfield1090
@samanathahatfield1090 3 жыл бұрын
my trainer is trying to get my new horse and i to ride on a short rein, but she reared on me when trying to stop. so my goal for next session is to ride on a loose rein and control forward movement, kinda like you did. will see how much she improves.
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a plan. Let me know how it goes
@bellaroberts3878
@bellaroberts3878 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos so muchhhhh😌🤩
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
😀 I appreciate it
@lindahollister5530
@lindahollister5530 Жыл бұрын
She looks so tall. Pretty.
@Kelly_Ben
@Kelly_Ben 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, looking forward to seeing her progress! I'll try this on my own speedy TB cross.
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@emilypilger9382
@emilypilger9382 3 жыл бұрын
This is great! Thanks
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@marialindgren4112
@marialindgren4112 Жыл бұрын
Not being a horse-person I so enjoy your videos and I think your philosofie regarding horses benefit all animal interaction so thank you! A question: why do you use a bit on horses when you can ride them without? Much more confortable for the horse I imagine, it demands more of the human to connect with the horse but that's the humans problem.
@mariannekaminski5795
@mariannekaminski5795 Жыл бұрын
Love this!
@RemoteHealingTherapies
@RemoteHealingTherapies 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy ur vids. Thx
@littlecreekrnch
@littlecreekrnch Жыл бұрын
In order to do 3 day she needs to be able to accept contact for the dressage phase. This is a great experience for her because she clearly has not been taught what contact is. Is unhappy because she goes up without pressure (out of habit). However you can't ride loose reined in dressage. I think she wants to be a trail horse and ride western now :) Nice to see the change
@andreabenfell5580
@andreabenfell5580 3 жыл бұрын
nice ,very nice.
@Foxhunter49
@Foxhunter49 2 жыл бұрын
First thing I did with flat racing horses (UK) would be to turn them out in a field for a month. They have lived an unnatural life with no interaction with a herd. When I started the retraining I would change their bit to a double jointed snaffle ( love the Myler bits) they have learned to pull against the bit so have to be taught otherwise. Getting them to relax whilst ridden isn’t always easy.
@nogames8982
@nogames8982 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. They need to learn how to be a horse. And then I would not use a bit at all. Why? You don't need it. The horse doesn't need it either.
@cynthiamarston2208
@cynthiamarston2208 3 жыл бұрын
My twh has her own hirse…..i got her a quarter horse so i could have two different rides. Flow! Well its Flowy but i use Flow often.
@Twinville2
@Twinville2 3 жыл бұрын
Please snug up that rear cinch. A horse can get a hoof caught, when kicking at a fly or a sweaty belly, when there's that much space between the belly and rear cinch. Plus the rear cinch can't do it's job securing the back of the saddle, without being snugged up.
@HobbitHomes263
@HobbitHomes263 2 жыл бұрын
Like the ancient saying.."Hands make the horse, The horse makes a horseman"
@alisonsaunders5089
@alisonsaunders5089 3 жыл бұрын
Great video u can tell u understand a horse but why do u have to go back to the bit if u can ride her in a rope halter xx🐎💗
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Good question, that would depend on the owners goals. But your right you wouldn’t have to go back to the bit.
@april5666
@april5666 3 жыл бұрын
Some competition, like dressage, require a bit, it is a big part of collection and contact. But if you're not competing, depends entirely on what the owners will be doing with Flow. She is a very pretty OTTB and will so benefit from your retraining.
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
@@april5666 👍👌
@trouvaloo
@trouvaloo Жыл бұрын
Rhythm suppleness connection
@tanyapurcell6819
@tanyapurcell6819 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, I ride English and have had my 12 Yr old reschooled as she was a pacer. We have sorted her pacing out but in trot she gets quite tense and is not soft so also struggles in her transition into canter do u have any tips as to how to get her more relaxed. She is a sensitive mare
@susanmol3389
@susanmol3389 3 жыл бұрын
You are doing a wonderful job with this horse, the one thing I did notice is when she responded as you wanted, why did you not put a hand on her neck and praise her? Just wondering as horses like humans or canines always respond well to good behavior.
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Music-vt2yb
@Music-vt2yb Жыл бұрын
The release of pressure is the reward
@susanmol3389
@susanmol3389 Жыл бұрын
@@Music-vt2yb Nice so do you train horses as well?
@Music-vt2yb
@Music-vt2yb Жыл бұрын
@@susanmol3389 actually yes I’m a student rider for a grand prix dressage trainer
@abby-sq7ns
@abby-sq7ns Жыл бұрын
I was wondering what you would do for a horse that throws his head? And is to fast… he is a very sassy boy and the nose and kind of helps but doesn’t get rid of the whole issue
@lvgel
@lvgel 3 жыл бұрын
How can you do this with a horse that will only do this when on a trail ride? I have small country roads around my stable. In the arena he won’t do this..
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
I’d use the same technique of disengaging the hindquarters. Ideally practice in a controlled space first before heading out on the trail. 👍
@lvgel
@lvgel 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanrosehorsemanship thank you for the response, I will try to find an enclosed area to practice this with, for now we have been making small circles on the road which looks a bit odd for non horse people 😅 located in the Netherlands by the way!
@Laue54
@Laue54 Жыл бұрын
I dont find the ground work on you patreon, do you have à link ?
@patriottowing8889
@patriottowing8889 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY, the horse i want to ride is an EX endruance racer, icant get on him without him wanting to run, i will hold him back and he rears and bucks.
@karrisajoss4271
@karrisajoss4271 Жыл бұрын
When are you going to run a horse you are riding?
@danlindeke2561
@danlindeke2561 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't race horses taught to run with pressure on bit?
@mysticalgraveknocker9464
@mysticalgraveknocker9464 3 жыл бұрын
My OTTB also dos the "head thing". Very reactive with head held high, rooting, I wonder what the cause of this is?
@votethebulliesout2956
@votethebulliesout2956 3 жыл бұрын
Pain and the antisipation of pain, plain and simple: Those horses are started to young and sometimes have had a full racing career before they are fully matured. They are trained to go fast, ballance comes from speed apparently but not really so the engagement is uneven, one leg takes more weight than the rest so the posture is bad so they develop tension and backproblems. A progressively sharp bit is used to "correct' for all of this , they distrust the hand and have this antisipation of pain reaction, head held high etc. The track is a cruel place . I should know, I have been guilty of this crime against horses, all for the sake of the owners wallet. Retraining these horses to trust the hand and physically balance them out is a task that useually takes as long as it took to do the damage if not longer. It can be rewarding though if you put in the effort. Take the ups and downs one day at a time and don't judge the horse with petty human morality. Show patience, affection and determination and let the wiser advice you. Reward comes to those who aply themselfs humbly and diligently. I should know, I've done that to, an effort to redeem my guilty concience. If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask but I think this largely covers it.
@debtompkins5363
@debtompkins5363 Жыл бұрын
Too many assume because the ottb was sat on to race, that they are trained to ride... AND THEY AREN"T. Any ottb should be started like any unbroken horse, from square one.
@jaynechristy4590
@jaynechristy4590 3 жыл бұрын
She seems very unhappy to the right crooked neck and something with that off side hind.... Has she had body work done?? Love your work
@emilybowen3853
@emilybowen3853 3 жыл бұрын
Do you ever training in English riding, or are you exclusively western?
@utubehelenjewell
@utubehelenjewell 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same I guess. Will u be eventually taking her up back to her event saddle+ bit (?). I'm guessing that's the final aim for you and her? Well, I suppose we'll just have to watch your next vid, won't we? - no spoilers ;=) I like your videos a lot. clear and easy to follow. I dont have a ride right now, but I do work a lot on my dog, and what you say here about changing technique and training a slightly different way when something isn't working is kinda how I try and figure stuff out with her too, to increase her reflective abilities and improve her independence in problem solving. I like the way you let the mare slow right down and have time to think about it all. Your videos are fascinating!
@jeanpernarelli846
@jeanpernarelli846 3 жыл бұрын
Horsemanship is the same no matter what style of riding you do...aids are the same,feel is the same. Psychology is the same...
@emilybowen3853
@emilybowen3853 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeanpernarelli846 yes I know, but the contact in english riding is much stronger and consistent than western riding. Like you cant ride around a dressage test with a loose rein
@emilybowen3853
@emilybowen3853 3 жыл бұрын
@@utubehelenjewell I think from the looks of the video, she is transitioning to western style riding, but idk
@slamminsam6xoxo
@slamminsam6xoxo 3 жыл бұрын
I wish the Patreon platform didn’t suck and I would def subscribe but I’ve tried to support people on there and the video quality and navigation sucks I hate it.
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried it lately? The quality is the same as KZbin and would rely on each content creator to have a good camera and sound. I agree navigating isn’t amazing but there is a key word search that works well for us. Thanks
@elliehensey7691
@elliehensey7691 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell shes had it so ingrained in her that shes just going to be hurt by the bit the whole time, even when theres no contact it's like a repetitive habit of hers to try and take the reins and relieve pressure from the bit, whoever's been riding her needs training or different trainers
@archangel807
@archangel807 2 жыл бұрын
Humane society has so many of those poor thrown away race horses...she is lucky she is not injured....Hope she gets to retire...
@ratherbwithhorses
@ratherbwithhorses 3 жыл бұрын
If ya wanna go slow don't pick an off track tb. They want to go and need riders ready to go with them.
@kimhice4354
@kimhice4354 3 жыл бұрын
That mare needed a couple of weeks of groundwork before even attempting to ride her. And that was fairly dangerous flipping the lead across the cantle of the saddle, if it had hung up there would’ve been a major wreck.
@tracywilson1356
@tracywilson1356 3 жыл бұрын
Is it my imagination, or is she more bracey and agitated to the left?
@janets6474
@janets6474 2 жыл бұрын
Get rid of the horrible bit, check saddle fit, check for back or other structural soreness. Next, start dressage traing.
@pameladandley938
@pameladandley938 3 жыл бұрын
She looks like she has a sore back ?
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
She doesn’t, although this is a very common problem especially with thoroughbreds.
@pameladandley938
@pameladandley938 3 жыл бұрын
She’s hollow going, that’s her back. My horse looks the same and it makes their rate of speed And impulsion not consistent. Did you check her back? Just wondering.
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
@@pameladandley938 her owner works for one of the best vet clinics in the state and had everything checked and X-rays done on every joint. No it’s not a physical problem.
@anne-marienordin7636
@anne-marienordin7636 3 жыл бұрын
They kills the horses!🤮🤮🤮🤮
@ryanrosehorsemanship
@ryanrosehorsemanship 3 жыл бұрын
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