The Nokia experiment was awful.

[@flowchan19]

i remember when this thing came out and i just thought it looked like a spider eye...

[@rohanajay]

That's the Idea!

[@Maximus20778]

Weird is that all cameras are literally the same

[@tamasbesenyei]

​​@@Maximus20778 5 same camera sensor, the only difference is that 2 of them didnt have color filter like on huawei phones at the time

[@ericventuroso3544]

At best you'll get North Korean medal vibes, at worst you'll get trypophobia (don't even brother with that one).

[@cladadverse]

That situation where Nokia couldn't provide Android 11 update to Nokia 9 PureView and straight up just asked users to switch to Nokia XR20 was just hilarious.

[@user-mf9gs]

Nokia XR20 was ugly af. It reminds me of the LG G5

[@farishanafiah8461]

@@user-mf9gs The G5 looks better than the XR20. The XR20 looks like any other Android phones out there.

[@roshanpereira7650]

Not Nokia who made the statement it's HMD*

[@lmchua8644]

Dont the XR20 have worse specs than this? Whoever made that statement is high out of their minds.

[@connectn00kia]

They didn't asked, they offered discount of xr20 for 9 purview users. Stop spreading misinformation dummy

[@aquaponieee]

Maybe, these pictures are more natural looking than the overprocessed look of modern smartphones? Im not an expert in photography so just asking

[@joziG]

Yeah I thought those photos looked pretty nice actually

[@ZeerakImran]

They look really nice to me too

[@tiagomachado5360]

Yep, same opinion here. As an S24U user, I kindq regret leaving Xperia, since the pics felt so natural

[@dannnsss8034]

99% won't care if it looks "natural" or not, because they won't be able to care.

[@account-now-closed]

This phone killed Nokia after their brief revival. The 2017 series and the 2018 series were fantastic, and had better update policies than samsung at the time.

[@MitkoFilipov]

yeah, my 7 plus was flawless up until 2022.

[@aks13v35]

The last true Nokia flagship, for now. The pictures actually look pretty good.

[@aquaponieee]

Nokia Networks has left the smartphone industry for good this time, they even changed their logo to symbolize that. They're not licensing Nokia and Alcatel brands anymore. The legacy technically lives on within HMD though.

[@dimaz3]

Am I weird or I genuinely like these pictures a lot ? Looks very natural. I love my pixel 8 but goddamn that thing processes the hell out of pictures some times , specially dark scenes where it lifts up all the darkness unnaturally , you can almost never get a moody shadowy picture unless you edit later.

[@farishanafiah8461]

You're not alone. I also do.

[@mohitpanwar8870]

I Iike these too.

[@RamlyJer]

The photos seem okay but it have terrible oversharpening

[@Aviv]

this phone proved that you can't compose a good image from a bunch of crappy ones. the photos are so dull which is not surprising considering how they relied on monochrome sensors.

[@Darkest_matter]

i'd have thought black and white sensors would've provided contrast/

[@m4t7eo]

There's a reason they used monochrome sensors, and actually Huawei did it before with more success. Monochrome sensors are much, much sharper than normal color ones, because they lack a bayer filter. On color sensor each 'pixel' can only capture a single color, determined by the filter, and then the image gets demosaiced and interpolated by the dsp pipeline. Having dedicated sensors for only luminance information makes perfect sense. Sigma foveon sensors follow a similar principle, but in a different way: instead of having monochrome and color sensors, it is made by three stacked monochrome sensors, one for red, one for green and one for blue. Their color reproduction and relative sharpness is stellar.

[@josephaquino3095]

It was a great camera system. Major problem was, it was too hardware-based and that the engineers were not interested later on. Updating to a new software means they need those engineers to recalibrate the camera system.

[@aquaponieee]

HMD Global IS the same smartphone division as Microsoft Mobile and Nokia Mobile. After Microsoft left the smartphone industry, they sold the division and patents back to Nokia, and Nokia separated it into a separate company they licensed the brands and patents to because they were not interested in the smartphone industry either. HMD Global had to scale back operations by moving manufacturing to China and laying off a lot of divisions, but they still are a Finnish company made out of former Nokia employees that was once Nokia Mobile. This year, the brand licensing deal expired, Nokia Networks sold some of their parents to HMD and left the smartphone industry for good this time. HMD owns a whole bunch of Nokia/Microsoft Mobile patents, which they finally used on the HMD Skyline.

[@mandalaurent5870]

I had the chance to choose between this and the Huawei p20 pro. Needless to say that this Nokia was dead compared to the p20 pro especially the camera

[@himanshumeena6544]

All your throwback videos are fun to watch, also 4:18 good taste in music too mate haha

[@JonathanMcCormack]

I still have mine. It can take fantastic pictures, problem is it only takes fantastic pictures about 8 out of 10 times. Outside in a bright day is what it’s best at. And for some reason it’s great at car museums when cars are underneath LED lights, the paint comes up really well. Camera app also crashes when it drops below 50% battery. And the processing drains the battery from 100% quickly. Also even though 5 cameras fire at once, night pictures are surprising bad. One thing it is good for is black and white pictures though.

[@hasnibrahiti]

You can always use a GCam MOD to take better photos!

[@Darkest_matter]

@@hasnibrahiti GCam sucks. tried it when i rooted my poco X3 and the photos looked so bland without the official xiaomi software

[@waldnew]

Had some great photos from that phone but man alive it was slow to process;

[@ezrakim1323]

0:16 wait a minute... 2019 was half a decade ago??!!! Bruh wtf

[@manmathgodre5360]

Yeah 5yrs ago

[@samuelhere41]

Almost 6 years ago now.

[@Darkest_matter]

@@samuelhere41 doesn't feel like it, covid still feels like it happened only 2 years ago

[@kylel4971]

Half a decade sounds big lmao it's just 5-6 years

[@lwandilexolani9663]

You are killing it with your content 🔥

[@welewi1125]

You didn't review the monochrome camera, I was looking forward to seeing some samples but nonetheless great throw back and interesting content as always 🙏🏼

[@thedarkknight1971]

Though I didn't get one of these, I owned a Nokia 7 Plus for about 3 years and LOVED IT. It was the little things like 'Stock' Android One, the way they designed the LCD display to have blacks, look more black (a step closer to OLED), overall, a solid phone for the then asking price. Then I tried the Nokia 8 Sirocco (quite a tidy designed phone too!) 👍 😎🇬🇧

[@deathdoor]

1:50 From what I remember, Nokia already had that refocusing feature on it's camera years before HTC.

[@josemonsalve2566]

I had a job as a salesman for Nokia. We had to sell this phone at any cost, like give some gifts with the phone, etc. The battery life was bad, the underscreen fingerprint sensor was worse, but the cameras we're really good if you knew how to use them. But even with the luxury feel of the phone, it was just bad. Good ideas, REALLY bad execution.

[@michelfiliatrault7320]

I still use this phone but only for pictures. I use it for the monochrome shots which are actually amazing compared to the competition as most do not have an actual monochrome sensor.

[@maher.k22]

I do disagree with your assessment of the pictures. I do like them, maybe because I hate the overprocessed pictures we get these days, the HDR look is never my taste and that's why I picked a Xiaomi 14 Ultra, with all of it's shortcomings, I preferred it's more organic approach to when it comes to pictures. And the same here with this Nokia, I liked how organic they looked, I like to see pictures how my eyes see them, I don't want shadows to be lifted, highlights and sunshines erased for food, not to mention the horrible sharpening OEMs have forced on us.

[@theryanthomas]

See, I agree with your thinking. But for THAT reason, I dislike the Nokia ones. The HDR effect is overdone. Images look flat and lifeless

[@maher.k22]

@theryanthomas in my mind, I was comparing them to what we get from the likes of Samsung and Apple, and I found the Nokia ones to have that look that I really like.

[@theryanthomas]

That's fair enough. Yeah I'm more of a OnePlus/Oppo smartphone camera person myself

[@khaifmd3412]

​Nokia 9pv is all about natural close to eye pictures with great raw performance and sony Xperias are also having the same approach! ​@@maher.k22

[@jpprice14duh]

Na. Nokia died for good reason. LG on the other hand. They were too innovative too quickly. Wish they were still around. The second screen on my old V20 was the tits.

[@anish_ved]

i used a nokia 8.1 for its first 3 years and android one was such a selling point for me. miss that one

[@x19a78]

When I bought this phone in 2021, the setup documentation was clear that Lightroom has to be used to take photos. The photos from the Android camera app are completely different. Also, the image processing/compilation is immediate.

[@SeraNeph]

If it had a headphone jack and the latest SoC to boot, I would've upgraded from my Nokia 8 (2017). It forced me to go with the most specced phone for gaming back then, the Asus Rog Phone 2. No 3.5mm jack killed it.

[@nimmy404]

Love this channel reviewing weird wonderful phones, keep it going

[@OZYRA]

Congrats you are becoming my favorite n trust me u will hit millions of subscribers. Ur videos are beautiful n elegant

[@AbdulHameed-l7r2h]

Hi brother 🤗 your video concept is different than others about mobiles so make a video on Nokia 2 and blackberry classic q20

[@amermeleitor]

The raw images had more latitude that any other phone of the time. Remember that phones deliver mostly 10bit raw. Now, today only a few can deliver 12bit raw and some flagship can deliver 14bit. But in that time the Nokia 9 raw were maybe the best ones. The JPG engine wasn't great if you were looking for banger instagrameable images, as nearly any camera except Fuji and some old DSLRs. Could you try editing the raw images and compare with phones of the same time? It would be interesting.

[@kisekihikari8459]

The Nokia 7 plus was pretty good. It’s a bummer Nokia was back for technically only one year.

[@mark_u]

The 7 plus is the best Nokia device under HMD.

[@iamhot448]

Agreed. Had a 7 plus. Was very happy.

[@kornaros96]

I'm still rocking the 6.1

[@somaelselino7627]

0:29 When he says "Thank you so much" he looks like young Sheldon.

[@muhammadawais472]

I'm loving these videos, so good to see all these phones we almost forgot

[@mallavii]

Nokia is dead at this point and doesn't become alive no more

[@omniframe]

Apple's next

[@theramennoodler7950]

@@omn I doubt the most valuable company in the world is going out of business anytime soon. I hope not. I’ll lose a lot of money if they do.

[@fakenews3676]

​@@omn apples goin nowhere buddy😂

[@aquaponieee]

@@theramennoodler7950 Nokia was the biggest phone company too, just like Apple. However, they refused to innovate their phones, and instead decided to play it safe, believing that what they already had was perfect and that straying away from it would hurt them. When the iPhone came out, they believed it was a joke and a disaster. When they realized their mistake, it was already too late.. does this remind of something a certain fruit company has been doing? Though, yeah it is not likely that apple is going anywhere anytime soon.

[@SAK11RA]

They can still make money off their burner phones at least

[@ashar8192]

We bought a Nokia 6 2017 for our mom and the WiFi module is awful There is an issue affecting that models, where the connection will spontaneously drop and take time to reconnect Sad that this is how the Nokia comeback panned out

[@Kaishade]

I feel like if they had invested more into computational photography, combined with that hardware setup, they would have created a masterpiece.

[@kayfed91]

oh my. those days. took ages to procees the image that ends up with blown highlight or missfocus. and Depth processing is too mediocre than even a single camera phone

[@ilkererol1986]

Photos look so natural and unedited by weird AI interruptions

[@negativeplayer4446]

Problem is: HMD *clearly* hasn't looked at the landscape, hence their phones representing their history of making poor decisions. Currently, in the midrange sector, what do people of said demographic want? • Properly optimized OS w seamless integration of features. • Visually appealing and intuitive UI design. • Decent and well maintained performance. • Great battery life. • Decent and consistent camera performance. • Comfortable build. • Proper future support. Brands who make phones in the midrange category typically don't nail all of the aforementioned. Why? It's not because of "lacking budget," as many would believe. It's actually this range that many buy from. So there is a strong incentive for manufacturers to keep making phones of this range, as evedent in the mass of this range. It's because nobody bothers to... Like... really. Nobody bothers to make something that's 'perfect' for this sort of price range. Except for Nothing, who does try to do something. Samsung's clunky and unoptimized Android skin bogs down their already subpar hardware. Xiaomi and Oppo's top-end quality consistency doesn't trickle down to this range either. Techno and Infinix are niche devices with little support. Like, if HMD dedicated 2 years into refining the hell out of one product instead of just running around like a headless chicken, then maybe they could make a comeback. Not to mention, Windows Mobile's UI has a *VERY* distinctive and appealing design that many have fallen for, yet they didn't bother to pick that up? When what HMD needed was an *'IDENTITY?'*

[@ch1k4sh4pk3]

Samsung with OneUI has absolutely best optimized Android "skin".

[@Darkest_matter]

poco and honor phones are good at this price. as for the skyline, drop the price to £199 and i'll buy it.

[@JanVerny]

To me these images look pretty sharp, with good balance of saturation and exposition. Yes, colors don't pop, but that's generally a sign of a good camera, since in real life colors don't pop. That being said, it's generally not possible to judge a photo without seeing the original scenery for oneself. And to judge a camera like this it's better to provide a comparison. Show the same shot from an iPhone 16 Pro, and from some modern chinese phone, like Vivo X100 Ultra, perhaps then I could see how bad the camera is for myself.

[@theryanthomas]

It's just flat. There's no life to them

I'd love to see a modern approach of this idea with newer ISP's and camera software, faster processors and storage and the small sensors for the current smartphone generation. At the time was said the monochrome sensors could capture much more light than a conventional RGB, I would love to see modern smartphones using this technology to improve low light performance since that now it's super common to use more than one sensor to capture pictures in our smartphones.

[@astrailiaous_Sempticreed]

Still rocking the pill gesture on my current pixel 3 running a13. Its the best and i think it feels pretty much as good as the swipe gestures on my other iphone 15 pro phone.

[@Primus_075]

I still have a Nokia 6.1 from 2018 and my mother has been using it for a while after her old phone broke, and she still loves it. Its small, its clean and it still works well. If Only Nokia has stuck to making good mid rangers like 6.1 of 7.1 they might have stayed

[@LaczPro]

Easy: It wasn't the same Nokia. 5 cameras (Zeiss branded for some reason), in an Android One phone (with midrange specs). What HMD was thinking? Good design overall, though with the wrong purpose.

[@mark_u]

Really curious if GCam could have improved image quality. Once had a Nokia 7 Plus, which was able to produce above-average images with a GCam port. I still prefer the 18:9 aspect ratio screen with top and bottom bezels present in this Nokia 9 and LG G6 over notched displays.

[@droid1appmkr]

As an owner of this phone, I liked the camera for what it was...a concept phone. However, there were some issues there. Fingerprint scanner was trash. Battery replacement would damage the either the display cable or the fingerprint scanner - making it poor design. Lack of software support for the camera. I still boot mine up periodically and really like the design, screen, size and the cameras. It was on overhyped concept phone masquerading as a flagship...that was my biggest issue with it. I won't sell mine though.

[@SubrataGhosh-qo8or]

I don't know about many interesting tech channels on youtube... Most of them are very average and boring when comes to the content, covering all the newest ones and highlighting the top tier ones... This channel on the other hand is JUST DIFFERENT.

[@jimmiegomile8059]

i remember being so intrigued by this phone at the time.

[@djaepal1331]

I was hoping they could fix the issues with its succesor but there was none

[@7charlie98]

I had nokia 6.1+ from 2019 and i loved it , it was a great budget phone , it was gorgeous but fragile

[@123moe]

I bought one in May 2019 and loved it so much I bought a OnePlus 7 Pro weeks later. I really wanted to like it, but it flat out just wasn't a very good phone, the camera experience was Not Great™, and was overall super rough around the edges.

[@ZaynJavaddMalik1993]

You got a new subscription!!,

[@cebuseablue]

I got this phone to try it out and it was very slippery. Picture quality was decent, nothing out of the extraordinary.

[@ianwest1624]

The chin on that phone looks crazy

[@ИванИванов-я9ы8н]

I actually liked the photos, look natural and om point in good light

[@Chris-B-Truth]

A lot of concepts that where tried too early should be tried again.

[@bakedbrownie69]

Man what happened to Nokia? I loved my 6.1 as a broke uni student, but haven't seen one of their phones around in years

[@МартинДиклиев]

I had one, and photos could be compared to a flagship or even better not consitent but amazing in pro mode in right light. The biggest problem was the battery which had issues but also was just not big enough 3300 for a 2k display the best snapdragon and also that ridiculous camera set-up. The first few months was decent but a year after that it started degrading and i had some issues still boots up i used it for almost 3 years im glad i had one.

[@ejakaegypt]

I usually don’t trust a guy with two first names but I love this channel

[@farishanafiah8461]

I can understand what Nokia is trying to do here, but I reckon that they can have a much better hardware. If I was going to make the 9 PureView, I'll have one colour wide camera with one B&W wide camera, one colour tele camera with one B&W tele camera, and one colour ultrawide camera. That would be pretty much perfect.

[@KylieWalkerT4t]

Sadly i owned a nokia windows phone was okay back in 2014 but i had a newer Nokia and the camera was trash sadly all photos were lacking depth even when it said like 50 MP sensor with the zeiss name as well great video!!

[@nikytamayo]

By this point, Huawei was on its third generation of computational twinning. It was a bit comical on the p9, it just made darker areas look a little more gritty, but by the p20, the mono color blending was completely transparent. Seemed to matter more on the P20 than the P20 Pro, and in some conditions, the P20's more closely matched twin system gave better output, but Huawei dropped the mono for the P30 and simply chased bigger sensors and mult stacking because customers wanted that extra ultrawide more than a mono camera. Pity. Those tiny 1!2.9" monos Huawei used are still better at resolving detail than many main cameras today.

[@chickenjoy]

You just slapped the truth out of me for saying 2019 is half a decade ago. It seems like it was just last year.

[@deepranjansarmah3858]

Brother should I wait 4 global release of OnePlus 13 or buy the 12 instead?I like the 12's design more...

[@kamranemami5728]

Please cover the yotaphone and its dual screen idea.

[@unruler]

Suffice to say that by that time Nokia brand has been sold to Chinese, so it's not the same Nokia it used to be.

[@ejakaegypt]

This phone looks like a spider 🕷️

[@DANIELCHUKWUKERE]

*Review the Nokia 8 Sirroco next please*

This Nokia back is the definition of trypophobia

[@MickLMZR]

HMD spent 2017 and parts of 2018 making Nokia look appealing again and then proceeded to spend the next 3 years agonisingly nailing down the coffin for the Nokia brand, I had a Nokia 8 that had great software but absolutely rubbish hardware with both the headphone jack and charging port failing with in a month of each other and countless other models having now infamous reliability issues...

[@antonior_19]

I remember when it came out I was obsessed to have one , but never had the chance to buy one.😂

[@mattBLACKpunk]

Why tf wouldn't you put the flash in the middle of the ring

[@aster934]

ich have a X20 and a X30. Both decent. The camera in the X30 makes good images on a iphone 12 level...The nightmode is great!

[@klim5026]

do a video of the zenfone 4/5 the first phone with a x86 architecture in it, i'm curious how the intel atom processor handled apps and if it had compatibility issues

[@Jo21]

i order to take great picture you needed alot prework on the settings.

[@robsshedoftech6457]

Stithians reservoir and Truro?

[@theryanthomas]

Good eye. Truro and Colliford Lake.

[@Leomate808]

Well in ny honest opinion, that's feel like a downgrade if compared to old pureview from 808/1020/950xl. Like it didn't deserve pureview branding at all

[@Betancourtdm]

Those photos look great to me.

[@khaifmd3412]

Mate test out it's raw pictures and compare it with modern day raw shots, you gonna like raw shots from 9pv

[@massivebuilder]

Nokia, HMD Global is the worst Smartphone manifacturer.

[@abdullahzafar4401]

I think they were trying to acheive the detail captured by a dslr and in that regard many people did appreciate it at the time This was the forst attempt, I wish they would've continued Yes the results are bad here but kudos to them for being able to emgimeer this camera setup. Snapdragon 845 couldn't handle it and so they worked closely with qualcom to develop a solution to make it work, It delayed the launch that early snapdragon 855 phones were available by then . They were definately skilled and smart people who pulled this off and I think a second generation would've been a hit

[@ImTHEfunnyestPERSONalive]

The seven human souls after beating omega flowey. 0:01

[@Joanyan]

you know smartphone innovation is dead because this man only makes videos on phones older than a majority of his viewer base

[@rayyanahmed429]

I don't how u judge photos, but these photos seems pretty decent to me, it's still way better than 200 dollar phones

[@UserT5959]

Huawei is beast. And that camera delay was like Nokia xpress music.

[@bigc7t]

Hey Ryan, I really love your channel. I'm not a big phone guy or phone snob. I use to be into phones about ten years ago, I still have my original Galaxy vibrant.... I wanted to ask ... I have about $200 bucks U.S. what do you think is a decent phone for that amount of money or less? I was looking at a few older high end phones but I'm not sure if those are better than something like the moto stylus from this year? I do not care about the cameras , I do not really ever use them. I like to play a few games and I watch YT and NF, but that's about it? I would really appreciate your opinion. Thank you so much for the time and effort and the video.

[@3amoor3amoori51]

this phone's problem was snapdragon 845 as it didn't support this number of lenses and the data of pixels' information held yet, the fault was why nokia quit improving it just imagine those penta cameras were improved and powered by snapdragon flagship processors that came after SD 845 ,just imagine, hence this phone could really return nokia back to the scene. The most disappointing is nokia raised the white flag early despite launching such a nice phone like 8.3 5g ,which is my pocket daily smartphone till now, but nokia must have been developing its flagship not only focusing on mid rangers and upper mid rangers idk may be the covid affected it badly but I think it should return with fully self-dependence no hmd, no microsoft, not any one controls its innovation and returns itself with its own hands.

[@gabrielalamberti5860]

I remember this phone when it came out. I thought it was cool.

[@motherboardbroken2305]

Wackos - yep that sums it up. HMD is really uping their game now, I just hope they can maintain the repairbility and give features most (sane) people needs on the right price, lately the axis is off for them. ANd they need to act fast before their investors cut their wings. (idk anything about investors but I hope whatver they are doing is sustainable)

[@yeezet4592]

The images look great

[@ZugFanTP]

Motorola One Zoom Please❤. This thing was also a crazy Future Phone.

[@musfiqrahman7172]

What is the name of that road crossing game.?

[@wxvy4970]

crossy road

[@marcelobomfim3504]

What about this wallpaper!

[@dorso_photography2599]

You don't mention RAW photography on this smartphone at all; you could have saved yourself the trouble of making the video.

[@Thepowerof2190]

Nah that's just the iPhone 20 prototype

[@alfredmana]

I keep seeing the follower count increase. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@rahul77j]

I was one of the dumbest person who bought Nokia 9. They cancelled providing update to the phone even after advertising guaranteed updates. They sent a mail asking me to switch to Nokia XR20 for half of the price. Now they removed Nokia from their devices and selling budget devices with no OS updates. They only provide security updates that too quarterly. Till 2020 Nokia was number 1 after Google in terms of providing fastest android updates as per counterpoint research. HMD really went downhill after Juho Sarvikas left and joined Qualcomm. Most of the key people from HMD left and joined Apple. The HMD India Head is now the Head of Apple India. I really like HMD devices but they have gone really downhill and i don't think they will be back soon. Nokia _ HMD licensing deal to end in 2025. Not sure what's their vision.

[@claudiameier666]

if people want to take photos buy a camera.

[@GameDevSaiTejVejju]

Nokia 8 was really good though.

[@Darkest_matter]

nokia android phones have all been really boring, lets be honest (except for the nokia 6)

[@arsicpedja]

They should just go with one monochromatic and one RGB larger senzors and get far better images, Huawei tried it with P10 and Nokia just needed to refin it. But nooo lets go mental and be stupid :D