I've SOLVED The Bite of '87!! | FNAF Theory

[@RyeToast]

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[@mileymassey4378]

Roxy And Moon theory please 🐺🌑

[@anhurtorrez]

It always bothered me how people assumed mangled did the bit because of the jump scare, and not many think it was Foxie. I was under the impression that Foxie did the bite. Not from some of the things you said, but because that he is standing by himself with an out of order sign in FNAF 1, the Jump Scare in 2. What you said made it even clearer for him to be the one. As for Bonny Bro being Cassy's dad I am having a hard time believing in it considering the time lines lot of people had put out. Cassy's Dad would of been to old to have Cassy.

[@CodiakASEOHA]

WAS THAT THE PINNED BY RYETOAST OF 87?!

[@kingnathannn207]

Rye ur the goat for all these theories, u can tell how passionate u are about this franchise such as myself

[@Dual-Process-Theory]

Another thing I’d like to note is that when Ralph says he wonders what Jeremy (most likely) did to provoke the animatronic, it’s also possible that Jeremy didn’t do anything. The whole book is mainly Ralph coping heavily with his favorite establishment being shady af, to the point of literally saying “I’m just gonna pretend I didn’t see a body in the vents” and turning around. Claiming that Jeremy was responsible removes the blame from Fazbear and then, by proxy, his favorite animatronic… - Connie

[@blanktester]

Ralph is seriously such a corporate sycophant. It's sad. FNAF bringing class consciousness???

[@BraedonElgin]

​@@AngelTheory-Mno

[@BraedonElgin]

​@@AngelTheory-M no

[@ProfDriftwood]

Nice Ralph, just blame the victim why dontcha?

[@Shiiz-hf]

If anything, Jeremy knew of how dangerous they were after spending an entire week fending them off.

[@Plop87645]

Let's face it, the crying child is the one who bit someone as revenge...

[@RyeToast]

True and real

[@Mrloophole]

Sounds correct to me.

[@derrickdaniels3955]

Honestly

[@TheeKing7]

Seems legit

[@Xander3321]

Undeniably Canon FNaF Timeline vibes. It must be true.

[@Oliver-m1p]

To which foxy is Ralph referring to, remember “mangle” is the name given to it because of its state of repair, not of its character as it is called by the company.

[@lovecatxx]

Yeah, wouldn't Mangle officially be Toy Foxy?

[@jakubpociecha8819]

@@lovecatxx Mangle's official name was Funtime Foxy, though it was essentially a Toy version of Foxy

[@Lucy-uu7bb]

​@@lovecatxxIn universe the prefixes don't exist. The names Toy/Withered/Phantom etcetera only exists for us. So to Fazbear Animatronics Mangle is just a Foxy

[@jakubpociecha8819]

@@Lucy-uu7bb Well said

[@Lucy-uu7bb]

@@jakubpociecha8819 Thanks

[@micahmakes]

Unrelated but i see and appreciate flipping mangles gender every instance its so fun and a nicr attention to detail

[@DevonDeDemonRR]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

[@happyclown4331]

It's beautiful sometimes, how little details in words and videos (regarding Mangle's experience/identity), can change the experience of something, for all the better. Heck yeah 🎉

[@charleswolfe8896]

I find it disorienting. Damn you Scott!

[@starmatterr]

I noticed it too and I was like "finally, someone who gets it"

[@shronkler1994]

I like it. Even Scott himself does it. I believe Mangle's description in UCN called him 'he' in one sentence and 'she' in the next.

[@autoimmunedefficiencysyndrome]

WAS THAT THE UPLOAF OF EIGHTY SEVEN?

[@RyeToast]

MIGHT BE

[@aedaniammx7559]

Oh I love “uploaf”

[@LiterallyUnlovable17]

WAS THAT THE COMMENT OF 87?

[@tonus26]

@@LiterallyUnlovable17WAS THIS THE THEORY OF 87?!

[@LiterallyUnlovable17]

@@tonus26WAS THIS THE QUESTION OF 24?!!

[@yawningabyss681]

I love that you made this whole video and theory, only to forget that you're talking about WITHERED Foxy biting someone during the DAY. It's always the small details.

[@jeremymorris345]

My main gripe is that Withered Foxy doing the Bite of '87 implies the Withereds were just walking around the FNAF 2 location, during the day, while open. Like what? That doesn't make sense.

[@homerman76]

I'm pretty sure Foxy was the exception and was on the floor, you know, since his replacement was kind of always in pieces.

[@jeremymorris345]

@@homerman76 Mangle being in pieces was kind of the point. And we never see a pirates cove in FNAF 2.

[@homerman76]

​@@jeremymorris345 Well, Mangle wasn't originally supposed to be in pieces, they only turned that into a novelty because Mangle for some reason kept getting dismantled, so they just made a game of it because the employees were tired of reassembling Mangle. Thus Foxy easily could have been on the floor at one point or another to deal with this fact.

[@jeremymorris345]

@@homerman76 It's possible, but it really doesn't seem to fit the narrative of FNAF 2. Fazbear entertainment deemed the Withereds to be ugly and damaged. They couldn't make them better, so they pivoted to the Toys, deeming the Withereds scarp. Funtime Foxy (Yes, that's the canon name, not Toy Foxy) is damaged and repaired but eventually turned into a game. The fact that they repair them in the first place implies to me that this is the version of the character they wanted to push going forward. Plus, there is the fact that FNAF 2 was only open for about a week, and the Bite of '87 seems to happen on the last day. This would mean they made Withered Foxy active on the last day, seemingly without reapirs based on FNAF 3, while already having Mangle be a thing. The only way I see it working is if you believe Fazbear intentionally let Withered Foxy free roam, knowing he is dangerous, to do the bite purposely to pivot the media towards the bite and not the murders. But that's a huge leap in logic with no direct evidence.

[@grandempressvicky6387]

@@homerman76 I don't think so. We are consistently told that the withered animatronics stink, are ugly, and are not in a state to be shown to the public. Not to mention, withered Foxy is a completely different design to the toy animatronics both in style and physicality. He doesn't have any of the safety features that the Toys were explicitly kitted out for. No other establishment in the games would have 2 animatronics from different eras performing at the same time.

[@AshyMuted]

I can't believe my buddy Eric bit that guy 87 times

[@redgamer2754]

Damn, must've been a chewy chewtoy

[@josephreinerth9152]

but withered foxy was never operational during the day, and after the bite, the TOYS were scrapped while the old ones were kept for another grand-re-opening.

[@Megajaybreaker4]

And WHOS arm is sticking out of the box that isn’t a toy/endo in FNAF 3?

[@Wizardjones69]

"never operational" they roam around with the retrofit process, + the toys were scrapped even before the bite

[@homerman76]

I believe foxy was the exception since his replacement was typically in pieces. On top of that, the fact that they scrapped the toy animatronics doesn't mean much when you consider the agendas of those at the top, William wanted the originals to stick around for his experiments and Henry was trying to figure out how to free the trapped spirits, it's perfectly inline for them both to shift blame onto the Toy animatronics that were honestly pretty faulty anyways, and the public wouldn't really know the difference.

[@agentboi4794]

What if the Bite happened in parts and service during the day

[@RyryNeko207]

​@@Wizardjones69The Bite happened between Night 6 and Night 7 when Jeremy Fitzgerald was transferred into Day guard

[@mamadev7687]

I don't like to be the type of person to shut down other people's theories, but I never understood why anyone assumed the Withered animatronics could've been the culprit. They would not be roaming around during the day, they are only ever used for spare parts in the back room. To me, it was always one of the Toy animatronics.

[@dwanedibly8129]

I concur. After all, the post-Night 6 newspaper says the Toys are getting scrapped, but the old models are being kept and refurbished. That seems to heavily imply it was a Toy Animatronic who bit someone, leaving Fazbear to decide they're too dangerous and can't be kept with the company.

[@sabotagedgamerz]

@@dwanedibly8129 I do agree this is an issue, however I would like to disagree with your point. The newspaper says the Toys are being scrapped for “possible malfunctions”, I think this is a reference to Phone Guy saying none of them are acting right, and someone tampered with the animatronics. Further, it seems like the company is making a massive cover up of the Bite (at least at the time or from the public), never mentioning any tragedy occurring, and instead removing the Toys to give the public a sense of security. Still, would make more sense if a Toy did the Bite.

[@homerman76]

Wasn't Foxy an exception though? Unlike Freddy and Bonnie, he wasn't stored in the back, and there's information on how he tends to behave, unlike the other withered animatronics. It's also why he appears to be the most well maintained in FNAF 2. And it makes sense when you consider the fact that Mangle is disassembled regularly to the point that reassembling Mangle is an attraction, so they had to rely on Withered Foxy since they didn't have a toy foxy replacement, unlike the rest of the animatronics.

[@Wizardjones69]

@@sabotagedgamerz yeah, people use this article to "debunk" withereds doing the bite but this article was posted before night 6 and they were deactivated during the day party, so how would they bit someone?

[@homerman76]

​@@sabotagedgamerz Not when you consider that both Afton and Henry had an interest in the original animatronics. Afton was interested in the effects of his experiments and Henry was working on a way to free the spirits. Since both had an interest in them, it makes sense that they would create a cover-up to essentially blame the Toy animatronics for "faulty programming," since they were proving to be dangerous anyways to throw people off of the fact that the withered animatronics were the real culprits. The problem is that we look at those things from the mindset of businessmen that are woefully ignorant and not the reality of what those at the top are actually after 🤔

[@pizzastopstime]

9:50 It cannot be Withered Foxy any of the Withered Animatronics. The phone call stated that the bite of '87 was why the Animatronics could no longer roam during the day, meaning the bite was caused by one of the Active Animatronics (Toy Animatronics). The Withered Animatronics were not active and were collecting dust in the back, therefore they couldn't have done it.

[@pizzastopstime]

The Night 2 Phone call also said the Withered Animatronics shouldn't be able to walk around. If Withered Foxy caused the bite, then they should've known that they could. The reason they walk around in the game is because they were retrofitted with new parts assumedly sometime shortly after the bite. Phone guy also said he loved the old characters, especially foxy. If Withered Foxy caused the bite, I don't think he'd have the same feelings. A thing about Funtime/Toy Foxy/Mangle is that he had to be put back together after every shift by staff. It would be possible that she bit a staff member at that time yes, but to leave her as a 'Take Apart Put Back Together' toy for kids after the bite wouldn't make sense. Although I guess he could've just been deactivated since Fazbear doesn't really care about safety all that much. The Phone calls are strange though, since the Night 5 call says no one is allowed in or out, yet we got in there and started working, even receiving that call. I do like the nod at the end of the Night 6 call saying he'll take the night job when the place opens back up, and we see that in FNaF 1.

[@JustNateX106]

Facts

[@K.A.S399]

@@pizzastopstimei mean the withereds still able to move around , plus its a staff member who got bit, so he could’ve gotten bit in the parts and service

[@clawcakes2]

@@K.A.S399 i'm not well-versed enough in the fnaf lore to be able to say whether or not the victim getting bit in parts and service could happen, but imo, if it happened in a staff room in the back and not in broad daylight, in front of customers during working hours, the event wouldn't have been notable enough to get a name. if it happened backstage, that could've just been passed off as an accident by fazbears, considering only a handful of staff members would've been there to see it at most, but if it happened outside, everyone in the building would've seen this guy get his whole forehead bitten off.

[@K.A.S399]

@@clawcakes2 well maybe the news slipped out, all im saying withered foxy is the top candidate now, just because of the knowledge this book gave us, still could be one of the toys

[@TheCollector2401]

You’re forgetting the FNAF 2 ending newspaper says Fazbear is scraping the toy animatronics “due to possible malfunctions” implying one of the new toy animatronics did the bite causing them to get replaced. Also in Funko Fusion getting jumpscared by Freddy gives an achievement called “The Bite of 87”

[@MrExoticDemon]

The Toy’s reacted weird towards adults. But we all know they don’t move on their own(with intent to kill).

[@TheCollector2401]

@@MrExoticDemon what are you talking about they move on their own to kill us in FNAF 2 lol

[@MrExoticDemon]

@@TheCollector2401 During the DAY time the Toy’s cannot and will not kill you. Just like every other animatronic

[@TheCollector2401]

@@MrExoticDemon to be fair we don’t see the toys during the day but even if we did by that logic the withered shouldn’t be able to move or hurt us either

[@MrExoticDemon]

@@TheCollector2401 The games and movies literally prove this…

[@Exquisitecitrus]

The fact that Rye is using both pronouns of he/him and she/her for Mangle because that's also how the games and books handle Mangle's gender, instead of Rye simply just using the pronouns of they/them (which would still be justified) is funny and endearing. I love it

[@mr.monkey354]

I mean he/she are the correct pronouns for mangle. Why would you say them?

[@Mr.Starlight_gaming]

I just assume one head is a dude and the other a girl.

[@plushcentric]

Some people are scared of using he/she for some reason, so they resort to the "safe" option, so I'm kinda glad he didn't do that lol

[@dreamcast.0]

I mean it's just a true fact in real life, not having your frontal lobe is basically life ruining. Yes, you can be alive but it's not like this person would be able to go out and get a job in this state. I cannot believe "Bite of 87 victim is cassies dad and worked at fazbears" actually took off as a theory. It's like no one who believed it actually decided to see what the symptoms of a massive brain injury like not having a frontal lobe would cause.

[@iamagirl9938]

Phineas Gage being living proof that yeah you can live with damage to your frontal lobe, but you aren't living life with an injury like that, especially if most of your frontal lobe is gone, as implied with the Bite of '87.

[@ComradeBobcat39]

I still believe mangle since shes a toy animatronic making the bite the reason the scrapped the toys, the jumpscare, the fact that phone guy told the victim (if it is Jeremy) to stay close to the animatronics and mangle doesn't have a stage, and finally they use to call mangle just foxy officially But hey thats just a theory!

[@testerwulf3357]

The jumpscare isn't much proof imo..ALL animatronics go for the face. And mangle is on the ground usually, not the "attack from above" stance during the day. And the BIGGEST leap in logic I've seen no one comment on is why would mangle be ON during the day?? All those EXPOSED wires being turned on?? It'd shock any kid trying to "tear apart put back together"..it's a miracle mangle even still works. Like in all honesty mangle makes no sense let alone them being a "tear apart put back together" attraction for small children

[@roscoe5427]

⁠@@testerwulf3357i think 2 important parts of the mangle theory to keep in mind is that 1) the toy animatronics get scrapped after the bite takes place(jeremy is moved to the day shift and on the his first day the place is closed down). it wouldn't make much sense at all that they would scrap the toy animatronics which didn't harm anybody, and then include foxy in the new location when they eventually reopened, even if he is "out of order". they could simply repair mangle and have mangle take over pirates cove, which would now be inaccessible to kids due to being on a stage, rather than keeping the animatronic that caused the shutdown of the previous pizzeria and scrapping the only safe ones they have. remember, ralph talks about the MCI and DCI as mere rumors, but the bite of 87 is absolutely a *known* occurrence at freddy's acknowledged by employees and undoubtedly witnessed by several customers, making it the most likely reason that the fnaf 2 location got shut down. 2) the other very important piece of evidence is that the bite of 87 is the reason that the animatronics are no longer allowed to walk around during the day. we know from fnaf 2 phone calls that the withered animatronics are delegated to parts and service and used for just that, parts. they were used in building the toy animatronics, but never actual attractions there. ralph talks about how they tried to retrofit them and repair them, but it just never really worked out. I find it difficult to see how foxy could get up and walk out of there, all the way to a party room or the main area, and then have the company blame it on the toys and not allow any animatronics to move around during the day. the toys were scrapped for a reason, and since they didn't harm or kill anybody before the bite of 87, it doesn't make sense why the definitely-less-of-a-liability robots would be scrapped in favor of the rotting smell employee biting PR nightmares, especially since fazbear entertainment only keeps liabilities around as long as they can cover it up, which the bite of 87 was *not* one of those instances

[@TearfulZorua]

i think they used mangle to repair foxy for fnaf 1's location, as their head shape is much closer to classic foxy's than withered foxy's. Which would still not disprove mangle as being the bite of 87 culprit, since the toys were scrapped and they just repaired the withereds using the toy animatronic's parts. It would actually help the theory since prior to mangle's damage she was just called "toy foxy," and if they used damaged and bugged parts, it's likely to be why foxy classic is out of order. I do wonder though, how dumb would they have to be to use an animatronic's parts of which they know is likened to bugs or glitches, but this is fazbear after all. Also the reason mangle was pink and white was to be more marketable for kids, and if foxy did the bite then mangle would have been the staying design choice, however it clearly wasn't. Meaning to some degree white foxy, or mangle, is related in someway to bad press, bite or not. If you look to classic chica, she also uses the same head shape as toy chica, which only pushes this theory farther. Bonnie and Freddy classic though... they don't have matching head shapes to the toys which is kind of strange... and we know they discontinued one animatronic that did a bite back in 1983, fredbear, but not only that they discontinued the spring lock suits entirely when they became publicly seen as dangerous and deadly, thus spring bonnie was discontinued alongside whatever spring lock suit is worn in sister location. This means the toys, the marionette, and Ballon boy all being discontinued points to the toy animatronics as the culprits. I mean no way the marionette is gonna bite any thing, and bb is just generally annoying, he doesn't have a mouth either! Toy chica, Mangle, or one of the other two? I mean there is shadow freddy, which looks like withered Golden freddy, who is also technically fredbear, who did a bite back in 1983, and that could line up with shadow toy bonnie (rxq or some other keyboard smash of letters) existing in a place where another bite took place. Frankly that would more than likely link toy bonnie to the crime, but I'm rather skeptical of that. IMO Mangle is the most likely culprit with chica as a sturdy close second. TLDR i agree but wanted to add my entire reasoning xd

[@homerman76]

​@@roscoe5427 Counterpoint, you have to remember who's in charge, both Henry and William have a big interest in keeping the original animatronics around, William for his experiments and Henry to free the spirits (decommissioning the animatronics wouldn't free them,) so it's perfectly inline for those at the top blame the faulty toy animatronics and have them scrapped instead, regardless of which set of animatronics were the cause. The news was just there to have FNAF 2 lead into the original game, so it's not necessarily evidence one way or another. Also, wasn't Foxy an exception to all of this since his replacement was in pieces so they just used him in Mangle's place?

[@stevieboi9907]

@@TearfulZorua Maybe this is a little off topic but I always thought that the Fnaf 1 animatronics were a sort of combination of the toys and withered's, using the withereds as their base while using specific parts from the toys to make them look friendlier, however one thing that does counter this idea as well adds more validity to W.Foxy being the one who did the bite is the fact he is the only non toy or paper pal who has a scrapped part in the Fnaf 3 box. Why would Foxy be scrapped along with the rest of the toys if they weren't connected somehow?🤔

[@therealHLY]

I wouldn't say that the only thing linking mangle is the bite angle. there's the fact mangle's audio is a garbled radio call about a child being bitten too that added potential hints that its them

[@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo]

But the bite was preformed on an adult, not a kid The call is most likely about CC

[@therealHLY]

@@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo I mean, we didn't know that specificly at the time. that's info we got since then. and this was in fnaf2, 2 games before we met the cc (and when scott was planning too have it end at fnaf 3 before the jumpscare comments made him made fnaf 4 and actually introduce the CC) hence me saying that was also why people assumed mangle when fnaf 2 came out

[@vincentadamsvga]

Mangle's radio is stock audio. Not a report about a child being bitten.

[@Gathaspar-k8r]

Personally, I prefer that Mangle did it. Toy Animatronics acted agressive towards the staff and were the one who got scrapped. Also the jumpscare fits.

[@deltarosa]

(Haven't finished this yet but a thought came to me) If Cassie's dad is called Jeremy (which I do believe) - but not the Bite victim, he wouldn't be Jeremy Fitzgerald then?, which is an alias Mike used if im not mistaken-- And Cassie's dad - Jeremy - was Bonnie Bully... What if in true Afton fashion Mike Afton used his FRIENDS NAMES as Alias' to get the jobs. We see William do it, and that means he just used one of his MASKcot buddies' names. Jeremy (cassies dad) aka Bonnie Bully had his name used by Michael Afton for the paychecks?

[@__Soya__]

Jeremy Fitzgerald is actually not an alias made by Micheal Afton. Jeremy Fitzgerald is a seperate person, he's who you play as in night 1-6 of FNAF 2. You don't play as Micheal Afton until night 7.

[@deltarosa]

@@__Soya__ ahh i assumed it would have been since it seems we play as michael afton in most of the games - noted, thank you!

[@__Soya__]

@@deltarosa You still play as Micheal, just not until Night 7

[@RyeToast]

Yeah, most people assume that Fritz Smith is Michael Afton, since the firing note is the same in FNAF 1 and 2

[@nnaa111]

​@@__Soya__ You say that like it's a confirmed fact

[@HarveyAgain.mp4]

was 87 of that bite the?!?!??!?!?!??!????!

[@chrisk6637]

Fr

[@WinterPains]

13:08 People *have* been speculating that W. Foxy did it because of his jumpscare for just as long as Mangle.

[@homerman76]

That, and the fact that both actually have the mouth for it, toy chica's teeth might be more pointed, but imagine a human trying to do something like that, it just wouldn't work very well unless Toy chica's mouth can be opened a lot wider than expected

[@Neganium]

You're probably right about it being Foxy (I mean, we all been knew), but you might be wrong on _which_ Foxy it actually was. Before she ever became known as what we call him today, the "Mangle" was once a Foxy, too. And as others have pointed out, they didn't scrap the _originals,_ but the _Toys._

[@_insomniac_423]

Remember, Mangle is actually Funtime Foxy, so that line could still apply to them. The reason why Foxy is absent in Security Breach could be because Fazbear Entertainment wanted to distance themselves from their past, so he was replaced by either Roxy or Monty.

[@Hellkat9940]

Roxy. I think it's clearly stated that Monty was added after Bonnie went missing.

[@Yuki_Seraphim]

@@Hellkat9940 actually, Monty was active while Bonnie was still operational, the only thing Faz-ent did was upgrade Monty's claws to play the bass and maybe change his attraction from Monty Maze to Monty's Gator Golf (that is, if V.I.P. is canon to the security breach, I recommend reading it. It characterizes Monty far better than SB ever did)

[@ericahoff8386]

since when was Funtime Foxy and Mangle the same?

[@Yuki_Seraphim]

@@ericahoff8386 since, like, FNaF world? "Repaired" mangle's name was funtime foxy in that game, and iirc in the novels for some reason funtime foxy could turn into mangle

[@ericahoff8386]

@@Yuki_Seraphim really? Never played or watched FNaF World, so.. That explains so much..

[@jellosenpai959]

Since everyone else in the comments are pointing out stuff I would like to mention that just because Foxy bit someone doesn't mean he did the bite of 87, it could just as easily mean that Foxy had bit a technician or a member of staff during repair and that. The comments about Staff comparing the team to meat and sharing tips could also be a result of the night guards getting stuffed in fnaf 1 and 2, if the staff knew that the night guards were dying, (Considering fnaf 1 says a missing persons report for you will be filed after they scrub the place clean) then perhaps the day staff were worried for their safety and started sharing tips to stop the animatronics from getting close. Also the comment about flashing the light at a different animatronic might work could honestly be imo better suited for Freddy considering that in fnaf one you never really see Freddy in the light aside from the show stage and his jumpscare. Also want to point out that while it could've been Foxy, I doubt it was Withered Foxy specifically, because the toys getting scrapped at the end of fnaf 2 if one of the Withereds did the bite feels like a plot hole/problem we wouldn't have an answer for. Great video as always though Rye, keep up the theorizing!

[@4DAT4]

The animatronics "were allowed to walk around in the day too... until the Bite of '87." The withered animatronics weren't supposed to walk around, so why would they get rid of the free roaming if the one that did something wrong wasn't supposed to be free roaming? Also, why get rid of the animatronics that "they spend a small fortune on" if an older animatronic did the thing that caused the restaurant to close? It makes more sense to me that one of the toys did it. Though, if Ralph is the same phone guy in FNAF 2, then all the evidence for Foxy doing the bite also works for Mangle. In FNAF 2, phone calls Mangle Foxy saying that some employees call him Mangle. Ralph tows the company line, and Foxy is his favorite, so I doubt he would call Mangle Mangle. He would still say (Funtime/Toy) Foxy. And so it is possible that in Ralph's mind (Funtime/Toy) Foxy and Classic Foxy are the same, and therefore, Foxy did the bite.

[@drawingdragon]

EXACTLY thank you. Everyone keeps forgetting Mangle IS a Foxy

[@AbsolXGuardian]

You also need to remember that for characters who exist within Fnaf, in addition to the physical animatronics, there are *characters* who aren't tied to just one physical manifestation of them. They're less likely to differentiate between animatronics the way we do. If I'm being chased by someone in a summer wear Goofy costume and I'm like "wow this is like the time someone else got chased by a guy in a Goofy costume" that doesn't necessarily mean it was another summerwear Goofy costume, because I'm thinking of the character

[@oakbeeluvsu]

I feel like Mangle was at least intended to have done the Bite of ‘87 when FNAF 2 was released. The angle of her jaw, as well as the garbled noises he makes being from a police scanner had me pretty convinced of this back then. Also, the withereds probably wouldn’t have been walking around Fazbear’s during the day, and the toys are scrapped after the bite. It would make more sense to me if he was referring to Mangle as Foxy here, since Mangle would just be a nickname for a very broken “Toy Foxy”.

[@dipfish1427]

guys, it obviously was the pizza, it was so tired of getting eaten, that it returned the favour

[@clawcakes2]

omg true

[@goldenfire647]

My headcannon is that they all took turns taking little nibbles, no ones innocent

[@Millimeeeeee]

I still believe it was Mangle since we know she doesn't have a stage, allowing her to roam easier and in his radio static we can hear voices discussing a frontal lobe. Still a good theory though!

[@LittleKittyMine69]

If you're right, that would also explain why that specific animatronic has always seemed... different. Not using the chompy one in mass advertising would also make a lot of sense. People don't want to be reminded of it. And I mean, even in modern FNAF, that one is the animatronic we see fade into the background as others gain popularity. Honestly, I think you're right, just because of how much weirdness this answer explains.

[@thebadluckcrow5075]

There are a few things that punch holes in the idea, that foxy is the one who did it, is why would withered foxy be out and about and even gotten close enough to bite someone? And why would the toys be scrapped because of that? Another thing we also fail to ignore is what phone guy says about mangle in fnaf 2. Ralph is a stickler for protocol so he calls mangle as the company calls him. Foxy. But he specifically states that he THINKS that the employees call Foxy "the mangle". That means he isn't sure what they call him and that he doesn't use that name for them either. So him mentioning foxy in the week before could just be him referring to the older model.

[@emmetstanevich2121]

My main hangup with withered foxy being the culprit is the fact that it's the toy animatronics that get scrapped after FNAF 2. Fazbear was already replacing the original animatronics with the toy versions, and the old foxy biting someone would only serve to reinforce that yes, scrapping the old animatronics and only using the toy ones is the right call. The fact that the company reverses course, scraps the toys, and refurbishes the withered animatronics would imply that one of the toys did *something,* and with the most likely thing being the bite.

[@SonZackSSJ9k]

exactly, that’s why none of the Withereds did the Bite because there would be quite literally a bunch of Plot Holes. That and the fact that Foxy being out of order is tied to the Bite of ‘87 would also imply Mangle did it because she herself is a Foxy and all it implies also is that they were reluctant in bringing back Foxy and was left unfinished which is why he’s out of Order.

[@CharaViolet]

Sorry, but I just fully disagree with most everything that was said in this video... 1. While in the surface it may seem that the perpetrator of the bite doesn't matter, any character besides Mangle would HAVE to raise further questions regarding circumstances. For example, if it was Withered Foxy, then that just raises the question of why in the world the Toy animatronics were discarded and replaced with refurbished versions of the Withereds, which would make no sense at all. Put yourself in the place of the company: If you have these janky, old, broken and tattered animatronics hidden in a room in the back of the restaurant, one of which managed to turn itself on, leave the room and _bite part of someone's brain out in public,_ and also these new and shiny, expensive and advanced animatronics performing on stage, and your location has closed down but you plan to reopen again, which set are you gonna choose to keep: the ones that would need a deep clean, massive repairs, and are a safety and PR nightmare, or the new and shiny ones that are perfectly good to use and you already spent a fortune on and whose biggest flaw is they stare at adults sometimes? The choice is incredibly obvious no matter the angle, and it's NOT the choice made in the games. I've seen people say the Toys were scrapped because of actual technical malfunctions, but the thing is that the Withereds absolutely have those and more. The ONLY reason they would ever keep the withereds over the toys would be if the toys did something _WORSE_ than the bite, which I'm certain we'd have already heard of by now, especially given it only has one day for it to happen. So yes, who did the bite actually does kinda matter, not because it'd SOLVE anything, but because there's only one option that wouldn't BREAK everything. 2. Mangle is NOT just seen as a likely possibility because of her jumpscare. It's also because he's the only character that has both the opportunity and _physical capability_ of doing the bite. Simply put: None of the other toys' mouths work like hers. BB and the Puppet's mouths are just cutouts on their faces, and Puppet specifically doesn't even have a hole in there, so it obviously can't be them. Toy Chica also has a cutout mouth, just with a beak inserted into it, however said beak has no form of articulation or movement, so she can't bite down on anything. Toy Freddy and Toy Bonnie _do_ have mouths with mechanical movement, but they do not have the range or movement to bite into a skull, they could pinch some skin at the most. Meanwhile, the Withered animatronics, regardless of whether they can bite or not, do not have the _opportunity_ to do the bite, since they're stuck to the Parts & Service room during the incident, and if it happened _in there,_ there wouldn't be an incident at all, because there would be no witnesses, no one to help Jeremy to not-die from it, and his death would be covered up by Fazbear like every other dead security guard. 3. Toy Chica's voice lines in UCN... Are not actually suspicious at all. Two of them are just references to her FNaF World bit, one of them is an obvious sex joke, one is just laughter, and the last one, the one you mention in this video, seems more like a _dismissal_ of the mystery than a "clue" for anything. It seems to add up with the idea that the "In FNaF 4, why is the tiny toy Chica missing her beak?" message was added in response to people in the Game Theory stream saying Scott doesn't add random little details. 4. Ralph saying he wishes he could ask the victim what he did to provoke the attack does not actually mean the victim provoked the attack. This is literally THE character known to bat for Fazbear's whenever any controversy is involved, OF COURSE he's gonna shift the blame to the victim. I agree that he wouldn't do this if it was a kid, but you yourself already establish in this video that it _wasn't_ a kid, and was most likely an adult security guard, who "should know better". But more importantly, you say the victim "provoked" Withered Foxy while he was free-roaming during the day... But he WOULDN'T be free-roaming during the day. None of the Withereds would. Phone Guy himself says in FNaF 2 that they shouldn't even be able to walk around _period._ 5. Jeremy being incapable of speaking (or much else) as of FNaF 1 doesn't mean he can't be Cassie's dad. In fact, I think him being severely disabled in 199X actually gives an in-universe reason for him to have Cassie so late in life. If he only started recovering to a functional degree a while after FNaF 1, it'd also make sense that it'd take even longer for him to date and have a child. If we go with the theory that HW2 is meant to tell us he was still having memory issues, it can be the case that his physical recovery was very gradual over those 30 years but his mind is still not fully there. Hey, maybe when Cassie said he didn't tell her what happened to Bonnie, it was because he can't tell anyone anything at all, or just still has difficulty speaking. 6. The flashlight thing is just straight up not true. With exception of the Puppet, the flashlight has the exact same effect on every single animatronic, slowing down and resetting them to their starting location. The reason it's associated with Foxy is not at all to do with the flashlight itself, but rather that he isn't affected by the mask, so the flashlight is the only way to stop him. The mask is also much quicker to use for the animatronics it does work for, so most people don't use the flashlight to reset animatronics unless they need to because Foxy's there. So no, them saying to use the flashlight to stop the animatronics in case the bite happens again DOESN'T mean it was Withered Foxy. 7. It's a HUGE double standard to say the line Ralph directly relates losing his frontal lobe with Freddy attacking him doesn't mean anything but that him saying Foxy hasn't bitten any kids (but may have bitten non-kids) _does_ mean something. Especially when it doesn't even specify anything about biting heads and the Freddy line literally actually mentions losing his frontal lobe. He could EASILY be (and probably is) talking about Foxy injuring previous nightguards, after all, he makes it clear throughout the book he knows the position is dangerous, has incredibly high turnover rate, and that Fazbear covers up deaths, so him saying "I know this animatronic has never hurt children, but it definitely could've killed one of those previous nightguards..." while facing those dangers himself is ABSOLUTELY in character, and personally way more likely, considering whenever Ralph references the Bite of '87, he does so directly. 8. This book does NOT confirm the Unwithereds (I call them the Originals, as opposed to the Classics in FNaF 1, so we'll go with that from now on) were never a thing. The book does say that Ralph is glad Freddy returned to his "classic look", but this does NOT mean he was originally Classic Freddy and they tried to change him into Original Freddy, he's talking about Original Freddy being replaced with Toy Freddy: The only other time they say an animatronic was "redesigned" is Foxy being redesigned into Mangle (well, Funtime Foxy, but if I just said that you could think I was talking about the Funtime version of Foxy and... Ugh, why did Scott make this decision) who are definitely NOT the same physical animatronic. So Freddy returning to his "classic look" is most likely just him returning to the darker coloring instead of the brighter coloring, plush suit material instead of hard plastic, fully-black hat instead of with the red ribbon, glove-shaped hands with paw pads instead of segmented plastic fingers, et cetera. FNaF 2 doesn't say anything about the Withereds being redesigned for that location, only that they tried to repair them and even added some of the newer technology. (probably explaining why they have Endo-02s)

[@samthepancake69]

I'M SO GLAD YOU TYPED IT OUT SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO ❤❤❤❤❤

[@EMan-jj1ef]

The book also has a recording made by Ralph play when punching in the number “1987” into a phone. The recording is the night 5 phone call Ralph made to Jeremy in fnaf 2, before he was moved to the day shift. Before putting in the number, Ralph thinks of the bite of ‘87, putting a direct connection between Jeremy Fitzgerald and the bite. The fanbase had already pretty much agreed that Jeremy was the victim, but the extra evidence is always nice.

[@GgGhost]

I like the theory BUT i still believe it was a reference to The Mangle for one tiny reason: Withered Foxy, along with the other withereds, did not free roam during FNAF2, they were kept for spare parts

[@joshuanorman2]

This theory still doesn't do anything to dispute the mountain of evidence pointing towards balloon boy

[@InkyLilly]

My big question is...why would the withered animatronics be roaming around during the day??

[@homerman76]

I mean, Foxy's replacement was in pieces, pretty sure it's established he was the exception since his replacement was constantly being dismantled.

[@grandempressvicky6387]

@@homerman76 Nowhere is it established that Foxy was allowed to roam. He starts in the parts and service room with all the other withereds. Mangle being in pieces was the point of their attraction. The company chose not to fix them so that kids could build them up as an attraction.

[@hocus1]

I think Withered Bonnie did The Bite of 87. He has the face for it... oh, wait

[@grandempressvicky6387]

My issue with this is... Mangle is only a nickname. Mangle's actual name is Foxy so Ralph could mean them too.

[@four_girls_in_search_of_awesom]

Phone Guy’s name being Ralph is something I’m clearly missing the context for ;-;

[@anderoth65]

Love it, I'm convinced, new headcanon. What do you think it means that Foxy is almost entirely absent from Into The Pit? Is it simply a reference to how often Foxy was out of order? Or something deeper?

[@VeronikaVaudeville]

he was obviously sailing the seven seas, stealing pizza from the yachts and cruises he encountered.

[@Toaster003]

could imply oswald was stuffed into him in a non-canon ending

[@Spawnmatism]

The bite of 87' was likely to be one of the Toys instead of a withered. As for the "Unwithered" never existing, the previous designs for Freddy and the gang was the Toys, so Ralph was probably referring to them instead of the Withered.

[@stevieboi9907]

The main thing that confuses me is the end of video, cause apparently the book says the withered's originally looked like the fnaf 1 animatronics but were redesigned for the fnaf 2 location. But that doesn't make any sense because the withered's were used for spare parts to make the toys so why would Fazbear Entertainment change them just to use them for scraps, unless there trying to say that the withereds WERE originally used as main stage animatronics at that location but eventually were limited to parts and service which would explain how Foxy would be able to walk around in the open during the day and perform the bite in first place.

[@HeyLoiss]

Lemme clear up the confusion. The Withereds were originally the Classics, until the 5 Missing Children Incident happened and FNAF 1 Freddy's shut down in 1985. FazEnt were already planning for a reopening, however, and they initially planned to reuse the Classics for it, but obviously needed to change things up to avoid immediate association with the MCI, so (as Phone Guy says in FNAF 2) they started retrofitting the Classics with new tech (Endo-02s), which probably required new suits too. But, again, as Phone Guy says, they turned out too ugly. So the company decided to scrap them and use them as spare parts for their replacements- the Toys- while letting the former wither. After the Bite of 87 occured and Freddy's 2 shut down, the Toys were scrapped, and the Withereds were restored back into their Classic forms

[@jacksoncowell4261]

@@HeyLoissI see that but the kids were stuffed in 85 and their corpses wouldn’t be decomposed in that time span meaning they would of discovered the bodies while doing that

[@Sammiwammi69]

Just wanna add: I've been rewatching Markiplier's old let's plays of the FNAF games, and on night 4 of FNAF 2, Phone Guy mentions that the pizzeria has to "shut down for a few days" as a precaution after the animatronics start acting aggressive towards staff, and he specifically mentions they act "just fine around the kids"

[@lrcronk9874]

There is one problem with this. One night 6 when you read the news paper, it says that one of the Newer animatronics bit someone, so although theres a lot of evidence for withered foxy being the cause of The Bit Of 87, the news paper says that it was one of the newer animatronics, so it can't really be one of the withereds.

[@HarlyMarley]

What I'm wondering is like, why would any Withered Animatronic be allowed out on the dining floor, where Jeremy would presumably be? Jeremy is notably a very hard worker and is never fired, even noted as a valued member of the Fazbear Family. I don't think he'd just go to the back area to mess with the Foxy animatronic. Not a bad idea there would just need to be the one reason for Foxy to be allowed to roam.

[@homerman76]

Wasn't Foxy an exception to the "Withered animatronics in back" since his toy animatronic was kind of always in pieces? I swear I remember that being a thing

[@HarlyMarley]

@@homerman76 i do not remember this

[@agentboi4794]

As far as I remember it’s never stated where the bite takes place just during the day. It’s very possible that foxy was active in the day just in parts in service and someone went in there during the day and got bit

[@HarlyMarley]

@@agentboi4794 Yeah but again if Jeremy is just a day guard, why go to parts and service?

[@grandempressvicky6387]

@@homerman76 No because they were all used for parts and all stank. The last time people saw all of them, they were leaking blood and mucus from their eyes/mouths so Fazbear would not allow people to see them ever again. Mangle used to be normal and we don't know how long they were left in a mangled mess by the time the player character started their job. For all we know, Mangle became that way four months ago and was perfectly operational.

[@user-ko7gk7wp5x]

The thing that's always annoyed me about the bite of 87 is how there is mostly circumstantial evidence (aka the jumpscare of mangle) and the more pronounced evidence (the voiceline of toy chica in UCN, and now Ralph's remarks about foxy) has been ignored, leaving the circumstantial evidence alone. I really like this theory, I still think Toy chica did it, as the withered animatronics should be in storage, not roaming around the pizzeria, but I think this will finally knock out mangle from being a favorited biter, and reopen the discussion.

[@Skyymon]

mangle is literally toy foxy in shambles, this new piece of evidence will only reinforce the idea that mangle did it

[@user-ko7gk7wp5x]

@@Skyymon Speaking of *Toy* what exactly happens to mangle throughout the day? He gets surrounded by children breaking him apart. The victim was an adult staff member, not a child.

[@Skyymon]

@@user-ko7gk7wp5x there's a great chance the bite victim is jeremy fitzgerald, a security guard, so i'd suspect him to be around where the children are lol. anyways, just cuz children are around mangle doesn't mean an adult aint

[@GendoRokabundi]

Foxy being the culprit also fits with why Foxy is sidelined and out of order in FNAF1/week before. They don’t want him on the main stage because they are skeptical. Better he be a side attraction they can shut down and hide away. Raises fewer questions than needing to remove him from the main stage.

[@pitblackbird3169]

So wait sorry…if the book says the Withereds look different due to a failed redesign, wouldn’t the redesign technically be the “unwithered” appearances?

[@riley._.5332]

Ayo! Video post right as I clock out and wait for my ride? Perfect!

[@ThePuff18]

Just so we’re all on the same page, Scott DEFINITELY put out this much lore (in a book of all things) JUST to see if Matt was really retiring?

[@FrankiKaye]

The Mangle Angle Jumpscare Strangle

[@8onnie8oyz]

Tangle in a dangle

[@FrankiKaye]

@@8onnie8oyz had to Wrangle down that Gangle as their Newfangled Bangles went "Jingle-Jangle"

[@imbubl]

12:25 you could also say “I *never* said fazbear killed those kids” as sarcasm meaning it has 8 different meanings

[@RyeToast]

True!

[@quantumsurge7250]

Another piece of evidence is Mangle's static, it has audio in it that sounds like an officer reporting that a little boy is missing his frontal lobe.

[@emmetstanevich2121]

Apparently that static is from a sound library, so it probably doesn't have any actual lore relevance.

[@vixime9122]

13:40 withered bonnie with his face is NIGHTMARE fuel 😭

[@ReeceConnor.]

Honestly ever since the second movie was properly announced everyone has been predicting that the bite of 87 could be addressed or even actually revealed which seeing the second movie will be based on FNAF 2 and from what we’ve seen it will feature every character from FNAF 2

[@niksooxyz]

We need to keep up the tradition of mangle going by any pronouns at all costs

[@trixxart777]

I think it's cannon the he uses he/she pronouns wich would make scence since it's implied she is a mangled funtime foxy who also goes by he/she

[@OliverKlaus-fs7mp]

I guess my only counter is why the Toys were the ones that were scrapped and how W. Foxy wasn't locked up in Parts & Service? I always interpreted "possible malfunctions" from Night 6 referring to the Bite, linking it to the explicit incident, and not that their facial recognition was on the fritz.

[@homerman76]

To your first counterpoint, don't forget that those at the top had an interest in the original animatronics due to William's experiments and Henry's own goals in freeing the spirits, they easily could have shifted the blame, as for Foxy, his replacement was constantly always in pieces, so it makes some sense that he'd be on the floor since they didn't have anything else to take Foxy's place.

[@OliverKlaus-fs7mp]

@@homerman76 i can see your first point I understand what you're getting at with your second point, but do you have any sort of implicit evidence, if not explicit, that W. Foxy was used as Mangle's temporary replacement?

[@devendoffing7004]

The way he changed Mangle’s gender every sentence just to piss people off lmao

[@felipesilva3732]

Remember pre fnsf 2 era where we tought that foxy did the bite because his mouth was hanging?

[@noxtinker2936]

Can’t be any of the withereds because the toys were recalled because of this malfunction so it makes 0 sense to be foxy

[@KaytNicol3]

I love that Foxy is being highlighted I feel like he’s very underrated as he’s off in his cove all alone, closed off from everyone else

[@cupasaza495]

So, one thing you forgot about Mangle is the radio message in the Mangle's static. Not that it changes anything, but thought I'd bring it up.

[@withiethecryptid9259]

One thing I still can't quite understand is, if it was one of the Withereds, how did anybody find out about it? It's not likely the Withereds were allowed to just wander about, so if an employee was bit by Withered Foxy it would've likely been in parts and service. We have multiple instances of Fazbear Entertainment sweeping incidents like this under the rug so the public don't know about it, and if it happened in an employees only area, that would make it even easier to cover up. The only way that could work is if there was someone who saw the bite in the backroom who wasn't afraid to be sued by Fazbear for telling the cops about it, which I find it unlikely given how fearmongering Fazbear can be of its employees. I guess it could've been a customer that snuck back there, but how would they have not been caught beforehand?

[@nerdtalk1789]

But wouldn’t the withered animatronics not be walking around in the daytime at the FNAF 2 location?

[@datajacked4179]

For me, the only issue about Withered Foxy being the bite of 87 culprit is the fact the toy animatronics were scrapped. So if Withered Foxy did it, it would most likely gotten at least Withered Foxy to be scrapped.

[@K.A.S399]

They may have scrapped the toys to calm the people down

[@WilliamAaronTheYapmaster]

I will point out that technically Bonnie is stopped by the flashlight in this book. This implies that Chica is the exception,being immune to the flashlight,not Foxy

[@AlexanderJones-jj2tj]

I remember a really long time ago of a youtuber who did the science of the bite of 87. But I think they said that mangle can't cause her endo jaw can't reach while freddy's can. That's all I remember

[@myklsteel8486]

I really like where you play your ad reads. You don’t put them at the beginning or the end, but you have them early on. You hook the audience and then play the ad, which makes me want to stay. Great vid as well!

[@VillainVac]

Wow, what a coincidence, that is the exact opposite opinion I have. How neat.

[@ImmortalAbsol]

It's weird that the "attempted redesign" looks like the more primative design mechanically.

[@DJ_Music_Man2]

This is honestly been the most honest mystery ever Mangle’s only sound effects in FNaF 2 full on confirm it was her :/ 🤦

[@LeoPerkk]

When I saw the title and thumbnail I thought it was 2014 again. How can this bite remain unsolved and how could it remain so obsolete after all these years

[@chmuurkaa3030]

I love how Rye is calling Mangle with both he and she in a single sentence since that's what Scott does

[@bigpoggers6507]

It's sad that the Unwithereds aren't real, but it's odd that Fazbear redesigned them for being "too ugly", made them substantially uglier, and then went back to the original designs even though they apparently weren't good enough in the first place

[@IMosuGoji]

13:31 this actually killed me that can’t be possible how what wh

[@rileykazukiewicz636]

I feel like this book is a really elegant way to soft confirm a lot of things we've been believing while still giving us the satisfaction of figuring it out, almost like a hat tilt kinda situation. especially with the way Scott seems to be being more transparent about early fnaf days lore lol

[@grandempressvicky6387]

I think the transparency has definitely come about because of the reception to SB and the movie. People are tired and want a slice of bread once in a while, instead of the occasional breadcrumb.

[@typreegamingtpg2198]

Still think Mangle did the Bite of 87. After all, Phone Guy still calls Mangle "Foxy" and I can't think of a reason why Withered Foxy would be out during the day.

[@windsmith4048]

Honestly, i'm still stuck on the fact that at the end of FNAF2, the news paper says that the toy animatronics were being discontinued, you'd think that if a withered animatronic did it, then the toy models wouldn't be scrapped.

[@anugget3932]

must I say... we must have been right from the beginning. I remember all the way back in 2014 everyone thought it was foxy bc 1. he was out of order 2. big and loose jaw. though everyone did think it was a kid so now we know it was a staff member

[@quickhakker]

one thing that adds to mangle being the one who did the bite, FNAF2 is the earliest game in the time line, and the only appearance of a real mangle (outside of the toy version in FNAF4 mini games) which implies that mangle was taken out of commission post FNAF2 due to the bite, either the jaw broke, kids saw it and got traumatised or some other reason

[@Twistedslop62]

Oh cool. The “redesign originals” is a fun way to explain why the withereds are so goofy.

[@tj6610]

I think I would 100% sign an NDA just to have Scott tell me the full story and lore.

[@Lazy_ness]

This is like solving a cod zombies cipher, it’s not important, just a side Easter egg, but it’s still unsolved to this day.

[@leafyscircustheater]

I realize that Withered Foxy is probably the culprit because of what you mentioned, and that is certainly fitting, I still like to think it's Mangle, or at least one of the toys both because of how broken Mangle is, the easier access Mangle would have to people, the staff appearing to stop caring about Mangle as they stopped repairing it and stopped calling it by its name when it was fixed, as well as the toys being the ones that get scrapped in the end of fnaf 2. Great theory though, and it's a pretty solid hit onto one of the biggest mysteries in this franchise. Also I wish you luck on getting a new house.

[@zeldavz9842]

The sentence made me think it also says " Though as far as YOU know, hes never bitten any kids" Like he has bit kids we just dont know it

[@minneelyyyy]

that would actually explain why pirate's cove is out of order, that might've been scotts biggest hint for years and we just never thought about it

[@TheSuperSnake313]

The line about Foxy (or Funtime Foxy) not biting any kids felt like one of those signposts like HEY HERES THE IMPORTANT PART! So yeah, think we assume that for now 👍

[@carsonoetting7958]

The only issue I have with your conclusion is why would Fazbear then keep Foxy around? We know they retire characters when something goes wrong involving that character (at least publicly). An example of this is the almost instant retirement of Fredbear and Spring Bonnie following the springlock failure. So if you have a character bite someone in view of multiple people, regardless of if the restaurant was open, wouldn't it make more sense to throw withered Foxy (and possibly the other withered animatronics) in the bin and keep the toys around? Instead we see the exact opposite happen. While there could be a good explanation for this, I'd like to hear your thoughts. Thanks!

[@nochs_brother_2]

The only thing I'm not sure about is that why would a broken down animatronic like foxy be roaming around the pizzeria in the middle of the day? I get that mangle is literally a bunch of endo parts but they're seen as an attraction for kids. Maybe someone can convince me of this in the replies

[@K.A.S399]

Probably the staff member got bit in parts and service

[@SonZackSSJ9k]

@@K.A.S399 It’s implied to be seen as a public event, and Withered Foxy even in parts and service doesn’t “walk during the day”. Also Jeremy was told to stay close to the animatronics (context being the toys) meaning one of them bit him.

[@K.A.S399]

@SonZackSSJ9k well this book is still implying that it was foxy because they mentioned his cove is out of order in the new location because of these events

[@SonZackSSJ9k]

@@K.A.S399 You say that like Withered Foxy is the only Foxy in FNaF2, it’s implied Phone Guy also calls Mangle Foxy. Besides that just means they were hesitant to bring Foxy back because of what Mangle did and that Foxy was also implied to be unfinished by how glitchy he is compared to the others.

[@K.A.S399]

@SonZackSSJ9k i do believe he would atleast be more specific, like say something like Toy Foxy, plus another thing that points that it was withered foxy, is that after the bite, the staff began to make methods to make themselves safer around the animatronics and one of the main methods that came from the bite, is flashing the flashlight on the animatronics, which is another fact that points towards withered foxy, and i know that all animatronics get stunned by the light, but withered foxy gets FULLY stopped by the light, that fact and the fact that it is mentioned that foxy didnt bite kids which indicates that he bit adults, those 2 back to back facts are SCREAMING foxy, i know it doesn’t make sense that he is in part and service, but come on, the whole fnaf lore doesn’t make sense, but this book? its telling us that its foxy

[@epicfortnitedub]

I love the switching of genders of mangle, its such a cool touch!

[@creacherr]

I genuinely love how you use both he and she for mangle ❤️

[@The_LunarSide]

I like how he switches mangles gender every few seconds to he to she

[@Redbear_crew]

well the attempt at a redesign meant they briefly looked like unwithereds

[@biagiomorgillo5565]

I just realized that Rye invented the "Let him cook" meme, since he bakes his theories

[@limegreenlive7813]

Let's see this in FNaF 2 movie. Let's see if ya right on this one

[@ThePuff18]

Yet again, one of my FAVORITE tropes in the community: alternating Mangle’s gender every time you say it. Sure, you COULD just say “them,” but come on. Where’s the fun in that?

[@aiyanahmed6967]

It would great to have a game animatronic say "I would love boring you 87 times" as one of their dialogue in reference to the bite of '87

[@dragon_os5153]

Good to know that their different appearances in 2 is just an art style change and they are meant to be roughly the same.

[@hanzojaybee6182]

The fact that the bite of 87 was introduced 10 years ago and we still don't have confirmation on who did it is absolutely insane

[@DualDaggerBi]

I love how you use a ghost's pumpkin soup for BG music on your theories! Excellent choice my guy