Ryobi Battery Knock off vs Genuine

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@Mr-Chris 3 жыл бұрын

I bought me the knockoff 9ah for $47 on Amazon and noticed it has the two extra battery terminals on the back which indicates that it should perform as a "HP" battery. I opened it up and counted 15 cells and verified that the rear extra two battery terminals are actually connected. I don't expect it to perform as 9Ah genuine Ryobi battery, but at that price I am happy if it can beat or keep up with a Genuine Ryobi 4ah HP battery ($99).

@TheCharleseye 2 жыл бұрын

You trust them way more than I would. Pushing those cheap Chinese cells to the brink using the extra terminals is a recipe for disaster. I'd never put a fake HP battery in a Ryobi tool with the extra connections. Granted, there's a good chance they're not actually wired to anything that will give a proper boost but on the off chance they are, you're risking a serious fire.

@deleted.6743 Жыл бұрын

So how is it

@zeropoint546 Жыл бұрын

@@TheCharleseye Not sure how you sleep at night, knowing that hundreds of people die each year, strangled by their sheets.

@Bhatt_Hole Жыл бұрын

@@zeropoint546 Looks like someone has never seen any of the incidents caught on video of cheap Chinese batteries exploding or catching fire in a persons pocket, and others in which something powered by those batteries did the same thing in a device. The less you know... And also, you suck hard for mocking linen-based nocturnal asphyxiation, or LBNA. I've lost 7 family members, 2 in-laws, 1 house pet, and countless neighbors, friends, and co-workers to LBNA. How dare you!? Tens of millions die each year from it. It's the third highest ranked cause of death in Zimbabwe. Your humor is in extremely poor taste.

@zeropoint546 Жыл бұрын

@@Bhatt_Hole 🤣🤣🤣

@Craigpv2d 3 жыл бұрын

As a maintenance electrician at a large transformer production plant, I use my battery tools fairly often. if I have to do a lot of drilling, cutting, grinding, etc. I will drag out the corded tools and extension cords. The difference in performance is huge. When I do bring out my Ryobi battery tools it is usually for a quick fix or repair. The problem with Lithium batteries is in the preferred charge/discharge cycle compared to Ni/cad or even lead/acid batteries. Doing a total discharge on a Lithium battery is not good for it. Neither is overheating it. Lithium batteries also don't like extreme cold temps either. Ni-cads, although they have less energy density per pound, are much more robust and not as finicky about discharge/recharge cycles or temperatures. Lithium batteries also don't like to be kept on the charger after they are fully charged. If you don't have a smart charger, that shuts off after a full charge, it will decrease the life cycle of a lithium battery. Same goes for cell phone batteries. Charge it to 100% and then unplug it. Although the Lithium batteries have a higher energy density per pound, they are finicky about the charge/discharge cycles and temperatures. Unlike a NiCad battery that can be recharged after being dead for years, a Lithium battery won't charge on most smart chargers after they drop below a certain voltage. (There are youtube videos on how to fix this to save your battery and it has worked for me several times with Ryobi Lithium batts.) So my opinion on any Lithium battery is to swap them out before they stop or overheat and have a few charged batts ready to go. My girlfriend who is about 69 years old, doesn't like the huge, high capacity batteries in our weedwacker or leaf blower. They are too heavy. So I have a few small, lightweight Lithium batts ready to go when she feels the need to work on the yard. I have a corded Milwaukee blower and an Echo brand 2-stroke weed wacker that I use. Both are too heavy and too powerful for her wrists.

@dyer2cycle 3 жыл бұрын

..Girlfriend who is 69 yrs. old?..umm..she's no longer a "girl"...an old lady...

@helenflouch 2 жыл бұрын

@@dyer2cycle useless and ignorant comment.

@gregtaylor6146 Жыл бұрын

@@dyer2cycle - When YOU get to 70 - and you are lucky enough perhaps to have a lady partner - you too will do her the courtesy of referring to her as you 'girlfriend!'

@CanuckTech 3 жыл бұрын

Knock off batts don't use recycled/used cells anymore, they use new chinese brand cells but the capacities are much lower. In this case, they're using 1.5AH cells vs 3AH cells in the real ryobi batt, which results in about half the capacity.

@GirlOnAQuest 5 ай бұрын

Not always true. I got a off brand battery that beat an official one by 5 mins. :)

@TheReaper1416 Жыл бұрын

I know I'm a little late but for those wondering the true capacity of the knock off Ryobi batteries, It's actually around ~5200-5600mAh. These "9000 mAh" batteries use "2000mAh" generic 18650 cells which are rated at a maximum of 2000 mAh per cell but are usually closer to 1800mAh per cell, they are 5s3p battery packs so you get the aforementioned capacity. The "6000mAh" batteries use slightly higher capacity cells at "up to" 2200mAh with them being closer to 1900mAh per cell or 3800mAh as their true capacity, the "5000mAh" batteries use "up to" 1800mAh cells with some of them using "up to" 1600mAh rated cells giving them between 2800-3200mAh as their true capacity. Overall these knock off "Ryobi" batteries are a pretty great deal, but only if you treat them with care and understand that the "you get what you pay for" rule always applies. Also depending on how they were stored/used some batteries may get/be quite rusty (due to the non existent water resistance) in addition, if you drop them it might sever the connection of the nickel strips to some of the cells, making these batteries no longer rechargeable (without repair). These batteries Should NOT be used with a "fast charger" as the BMS they use cannot handle the higher power and may lead to overheating of the cells/circuit board and ultimately either lead to a fire or one or more of the cells dying early. Last thing to note is that these cheap knock off cells have a very limited lifespan of between 150-400 discharge/charge cycles with fast chargers usually cutting that time down to a quarter of that.

@johnsimpson8263 3 жыл бұрын

I ended up with a knock off 5Ah battery, performance was OK, until one day it would not charge. Something had gone wrong with the electronics, the cells did take a charge when I had a play, but not without bypassing all the electronics. Needless to say I got rid of it. Lasted a few years though.

@deeeyewhy5949 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve read that a few people have found these batteries work best after they’ve been broken in. Charged full, emptied charged full again and then emptied. The third or fourth charge allegedly begins performing on par with the ryobi 9 amp hour. These are supposed to have more powerful cells in them 21700’s compared to 18650’s

@doncarniato4207 Жыл бұрын

That was not my experience. The 5 ah knock off lost working time with each successive charge and use. After about 8 cycles I sent it back.

@Bhatt_Hole Жыл бұрын

If what I've read is correct, you are never supposed to take them down to nuthin. Always stop and charge long before it's on empty.

@philgray1023 2 жыл бұрын

Weigh them then open up and see what you got. My Dyson vac battery failed after 18 months. They replaced it with a new one. I took the old one apart an nd charged each cell separately. Three years later they are all going strong. Not all dead batteries are dead, they only say that they are.

@planetearth6204 Жыл бұрын

Great trial testing these two as I was looking at the generic batteries on Ebay. You proved that the generic Ryobi batteries don't run as long as the genuine Ryobi batteries.

@LinuxGalore 3 жыл бұрын

78% price variation, battery prices don't vary that much even with better batteries so Ryobi are doing some serious price gouging.

@AxlAX 2 жыл бұрын

I think they're charging you for the length of time those batteries will be useable. Meaning they'll out last and out perform any cheap knock off for years when compared to the genuine ones. I think they're fairly priced.

@abruptlyblunt 3 жыл бұрын

i'm not saying the knock-offs are good but you can't get an accurate point of reference out of just testing 1 battery, it could be defective, you need to test multiple of the same knock-off batteries to get a baseline then make the comparison to the name brand batteries..

@JackFerrell 2 жыл бұрын

Also it's so important if they endure, much more important than how long they'll run a tool which is primitive, an electrician would laugh and really measure the amp hours.

@scottfranson4215 17 күн бұрын

I pick your Video , it was short and to the subject title states , Thank You . Time is money . Nice Cap!

@hairymongrell 2 жыл бұрын

i paid $56 each for a 9ah knockoff compared to $209 for ryobi hp 9ah for use in my lawn mower (just to save my good batteries). same run time as my 6ah genuines but alot cheaper.

@juanvelasquez9114 Жыл бұрын

could u share the link of the product please?

@theq-1 Жыл бұрын

Thats what I found and I think its because the real ryobi ones cut off much earlier to protect the cells so you end up with similar run time.

@jalee6587 3 жыл бұрын

The knock off are using new cells but only 1500mah 18650 cells. Plus after a couple yeats the knock off cells will be starting to fail . My original battery is about 4 years and still performs great. My knock off will only reach 2 bars fully charged and doesn't last long.

@ryanroth8427 2 жыл бұрын

I've got several knock off ryobi batteries that I've had for several years and are working great, I just got my fourth 9ah knock off to complete my yard tools. Also I've had 4 knock off rigid 4 ah batteries for 5 years and still perform perfectly. Is it possible you over abuse your batteries and tools? On a side note I just reactivated my old 18v porter cable tools with knock off batteries lol

@JackFerrell 2 жыл бұрын

This is what I was hoping to learn about watching this video. Can other folks corroborate or speak to their knowledge about how long they'll last -- thanks

@camwells9726 Жыл бұрын

Are there fake ryobi tools as well ? Seems to be too many so called brand new cordless drills , impact drivers, etc for sale at approx half price , quite often the one person selling multiple ones

@theq-1 Жыл бұрын

I notices that the real ryobi ones cut off so early to protect the cells that the knock off ones I have last longer.

@Spartin11794 Жыл бұрын

Should open up the crappy one to see whats inside for content?

@ramixnudles7958 2 жыл бұрын

During a recent Ryobi sale, you could buy two 4 AH batteries for $100, and then pick a tool from the collection for no additional cost. So, for the $100, you get 8 AH, and for the equivalent $20 0, you'd get 16 genuine Ryobi AH, and two tools. If they run the same sale on Black Friday or for Christmas, I may have to bite. And get the inverter.

@DoritosResidue 2 жыл бұрын

They just had the 150 watt inverter with two 4ah battery combo for 100. I should of bought 2 of those combos. I already have an ecoflow and bluetti but that little ryobi inverter is soo movable and convenient. It powers just about everything I need it for.

@ramixnudles7958 2 жыл бұрын

@@DoritosResidue I just checked online. We're close to another Ryobi Days same. Same (two) 4AH batteries, and your choice of basic tools. I considered the 150W power station, but the video reviews said that the inverter was failing. There's a more clunky looking inverter that's only 120W, but is more flexible. It can plug into the car or the battery pack. It's $40 on sale. There's another USB power station for $20, that had to be ordered online to get shipped to the store. One hit the first one, RYi 120A. How am I going to explain that I bought another tool just for the batteries? 😯😯

@DoritosResidue 2 жыл бұрын

@@ramixnudles7958 lol I know right!? Buying a tool just for the batteries is hard to resist. But I haven't have any issues with the inverter. I mostly saw that the usb ports are failing which I don't use any way. They are too low in power for my taste anyway. I was thinking of getting that dc ryobi inverter as well but I really don't need it plus it doest have a battery combo lol. I read somewhere they are coming out with new inverters with some type of external USB charging and or solar port pass through charging . That is needed because they are behind the times in terms of inverters . These Chinese crowd funded companies are already leaps ahead of ryobi power stations. And alot ways cheaper

@bigdog-dg9xk 3 жыл бұрын

How much difference could there be with the name brand being a lithium+, assuming the knockoff is the equivalent of a standard lithium?

@antiontaylor262 3 жыл бұрын

Well that answers that. I was expecting it to be less but not half the life. I'm not sure they're worth the money at only half capacity.

@andreo 2 жыл бұрын

Plus, if that battery catches fire and does damage to the house or garage who do you sue? The seller and whatever company they made up will be long gone.

@KingCuba0731 3 жыл бұрын

For some reason I want ryobi cut off tool but I don't think I have a need for it. Thoughts?

@livefreeandtoolon 3 жыл бұрын

I use mine for small cutting task, such as piping, 1/2 plywood siding or metal roofing or metal stock. The problem is it a small area of work where as the oscillating and grinder has most small tasks covered

@antiontaylor262 3 жыл бұрын

That cut off tool looks so cool to me. I have no use for it at all besides maybe chopping FSP on AR barrels but I want it too LOL.

@joeybez5464 Жыл бұрын

ANAZON GENERIC VIDEOS ARE COMPARIBLE ?

@TheCharleseye 2 жыл бұрын

I have a couple of the "5Ah" (actually 4Ah) knockoffs from Amazon. They work fine but are nothing special. I won't trust them in my high draw tools but they do fine for camp lanterns, fans, radios, even a drill or two, occasionally. I would never use one of the HP knockoffs in a HP tool that has the contact points. There's no way I'm risking whatever damage they could do if wired wrong (or wired right but with vastly inferior cells).

@visa1960 Жыл бұрын

The knock-off battery works fine

@brianvaughn3312 2 жыл бұрын

9ah battery is excessive anyway and heavy enough to throw any tool out of balance. You will get better performance, better tool ergonomics, and power efficiency by capping at 6ah. Honestly I stick with 4ah and just buy more of them. In my experience, they last about 20% less than 6ah, rather than 33% less which you would expect. Having said all that, I have purchased a couple 5ah off-brand batteries and they're fine but not great. They tend to perform slightly worse than the Ryobi OEM 4ah, which is fine. One other consideration is the lifespan (number of cycles) of the knock offs. While cheaper, I don't expect they will last as long over time, and will certainly degrade over time, faster than the real deal batteries... time will tell

@antonioreyes421 2 жыл бұрын

True, I actually want a 9 amp hour for basic things, like using it on the Mister (even though the battery is big to fit on the mount). My inverter and the wheeled Ryobi Vacuum

@bread-gz3rl 2 жыл бұрын

Can't forget the new table saw and the new 10in miter saw

@BillLaBrie 2 жыл бұрын

The 9ah batts are for stationary tools.

@dashobie 2 жыл бұрын

I have Ryobi batteries that will not charge anymore,the knock offs i have still charge.

@livefreeandtoolon 2 жыл бұрын

It may be that they went below the minimum voltage to charge, you can jump them if that is the case. The off brand typically do not have low voltage safeties

@helenflouch 2 жыл бұрын

@@livefreeandtoolon what do you mean by 'jump them'?

@livefreeandtoolon 2 жыл бұрын

@@helenflouch you would manually charge them with another battery to a point that the wall charger will identify the battery level sufficient to charge