Ryuken Ishida's REVENGE - How the LAST QUINCY Engineered Yhwach's Downfall | Bleach Discussion

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The Stil Silver Arrow is one of the most infamous devices introduced in Bleach's story, but it's also a fascinating piece of the series' endgame. In this video, we take a look at the arrow itself, but also Ryuken Ishida's role in TYBW overall, to see how the Ishida family's conclusion came to be, and how Ryuken was instrumental in defeating Yhwach.
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[@MrTommo2304]

What did you think of the Stil Silver arrow? How could Ryuken's role in TYBW be improved? Let me know!

[@oliverfletcher8535]

the concept of the arrow is fine. if anything keep it, but they have to tease and build it up throughout the arc (anime) instead of pulling it out of the ass at the end

[@aliveandwellinisrael2507]

It sounds like there's a connection between the "Silver of Stillness" and Mimihagi, who governed "stillness" as opposed to "progression/evolution". Mimihagi was the only thing that had until that point escaped Yhwach's gaze, leading to Yhwach being completely taken off guard when it rose up and protected the SK's body during the kamikake. I don't think Mimihagi is directly related to the arrow or anything (aside from being involved with the same concept of stillness) but I do think that it's for similar reasons that the Almighty could not see the arrow coming, and could also not see Mimihagi's actions. On top of this, there's also the possibility that Uryuu used his Schrift, initially shooting something else, then switching the target of that event to Yhwach so that he was instantly hit without the possibility of it missing its mark. However, I'm not sure that exactly fits the description of how his Schrift works (Reversing any event between any two chosen targets)

[@UnrebornMortuus]

it's a zelda arrow. specifically in A Link to the Past, Link gets a silver arrow to kill ganon

[@leebowyer1240]

I think showing more of him as a combatant aside from saving uryuu would have been nice since we've seen considerably more from isshin in that manner.

[@joelsasmad]

I find it weird that I would have liked the arrow better if the concept was only slightly altered. If instead of Ywawch's ictims materializing his weakness, Ryuken gathered remaining energy from the holy selection to create an anti-quincy weapon that could imitate it on a smaller scale to disperse a quincy's powers. It makes more sense to me and also adds a level of irony with him dying the same as all the quincy across the world that he fed on.

[@jrgenvellesen7800]

I really like the duality between Yhwach and Ryuken, the two most prominent Quincy father-figures in the story. Yhwach's whole character is based on his status as a Quincy, while Ryuken rejects his identity as a Quincy. Yhwach is known as the First Quincy, while Ryuken is the Last Quincy. Both of them are motivated by a personal loss. Yhwach wants to avenge his father, while Ryuken wants to avenge his wife. Both of them have very different ways of acting as parents. Yhwach sees his so-called children as nothing more then tools for him to use, but still considers himself as a benevolent parent. Meanwhile, Ryuken acts cold and dismissive of Uryu's desire to be a Quincy, but he still helped him when he needed it and trusted him with the weapon that would help them defeat Yhwach. Yhwach wanted to create a world without death, while Ryuken is a doctor, because he has dedicated his life to helping the living. I really like how Kubo made the two Quincy father-figures be such fitting parallels to each other, given their respective roles in the story.

[@shameronstar7220]

Wow! Never saw that metaphorical parallel

[@williamklemp3764]

Man, I've been telling people for years Tite Kubo is a poet that uses Manga as it's medium, and this here just encapsulates that sentiment perfectly, thank you

[@gammafrost]

I really liked your explanation and just wished Ryuken was more up front and center in the war since he’s such an important character. We hardly see him

[@crimson9790]

Damn nice man

[@jaykay6222]

Was the Soul King literally Ywach's father though? I know that was something Ywach called the SK, but I don't know if that was supposed to be a literal or figurative thing. If it was literal, how could that be? Ywach was physically born somewhere, presumably far after the SK was stripped of his parts and turned into a linchpin. So I feel it'd be figurative, but even in that case I don't know what he'd mean by it unless Ywach's being a Quincy came from being born with some major fragment of the SK, like the SK's...."arrow"...so to speak. Am I just dumb, or is this as vague as I feel like it was. I wonder if this is covered in any of the light novels. I just bought CFYOW, and they've come in the mail, but I haven't read them yet.

[@manuelacosta9463]

Ryuken creating this legendary weapon and then Uryu unleashing it against Yhwach symbolically represents justice for all the people Yhwach stomped on and snuffed out to get where he stood on. Particularly his fellow Quincies.

[@Kameraspie]

They're his descendants too

[@Gmoney9781]

He was passing the torche to his son because he knew how much the death of his wife took a toll on his son! He truly cares for his son just had a hard way of showing it like isshin!

[@andreigabrielion9575]

Yes, that was what was said in the video.

[@gammafrost]

I’m all for him helping out against ywach but he should have been more active and actually fought some sternritter

[@Gmoney9781]

@@gammafrost yo that would be so dope seeing his skill and why they call him the last pure quincy!

[@smuggles-go2jm]

I just like to imagine that Ryuken showed up at Isshins door and asked "Hey, I'm about to go give my son this arrow so he can help us get it back in blood. Wanna come and watch, maybe get some closure on the Masaki thing?"

[@dinolover]

I'd like to imagine they instantly left for drinks as Ichigo and Aizen are getting their shit twisted by Yhwach in Soul Society.

[@dusk203]

This is my new head canon, thanks!😂

[@SinHurr]

@@dinolover Old Toph said it best: sometimes you have to let the kids handle things.

[@albertko1]

Actually, this conversation would be a great way to allow the anime to explain what the arrow is and how much both parents relationships with their children and wives parallel. It can also make the viewers sympathize with the protagonists of Ichigo and Ishida more.

[@SirTimidFlash]

Ryuken: Isshin, it's ready. Isshin: Cutting it a little close here, out boys are fighting a literal god here. Ryuken: They're not dead, we have the time to refine this. Isshin: These are our children we're talking about. Ryuken: And 'This' is our revenge, we're working on, we only get one shot. Uryu and Ichigo are stronger than you think. Isshin: if you had just let Ura- Ryuken: He couldn't be trusted to work in silence and shadows.

[@anirule6833]

Hopefully the anime will give this dude a bigger role. Because man it really felt like he was supposed to do something major in the final battle and not stay on the sideline. I mean he did create the arrow that lead to Ywach downfall, but boy did Kubo screw this guy over. Same with Ukitake and Isshin.

[@manuelacosta9463]

Indeed. He knows the history of the Quincy-Shinigami conflicts and even with his misgivings he should play his own role here other than what happened. He is a force of his own.

[@AJ-kt5zo]

​@@manuelacosta9463 Fair point. I just wish they used more Quincy spells , reisha manipulation , Q-Magic

[@angelo3353]

i heard ukitake is getting more backstory in the anime

[@Chris-ks4sw]

Ukitake was screwed before this arc. This is actually ones of his better arcs. The whole mimihagi aspect is the best thing he's had in a while.

[@Arcitan]

I remember wondering, when I read it originally, if the arrowhead wasn't just the silver from Katagiri, but also from Masaki and potentially all the mixed blood servants of the Ishida household who died. They could then add a new flashback scene, where Ryuken explains to Ishin what really happened to their wives that night and his plan for revenge.

[@Hooya2007]

It's head cannon, but you could really flesh out the relationship between Ryuken, Uryu and Soken using Katagiri's death. Katagiri dies and in his grief Ryuken desperately searches for what killed her, even to the point of carving up her corpse and traumatizing Uryu. After discovering the silver, Ryuken confronts Soken and demands to know why he didn't warn them. That they could have done something/anything, and now Uryu is suffering and motherless because of him. His wife's death and this sense of betrayal drives Ryuken away from the quincy life (remember he was 100% for the quincy before this), and Soken in his guilt take Uryu under his wing.

[@AnonTDegenerate]

It would make sense with his focus on work. He not only rejects the quincy but uses work to avoid the grief and, to an extent, care for Uryu in a distant way.

[@Tsukinohanax]

could become canon in the third cour I so hope to god

[@daddysmoke2233]

It's not headcanon. It's just interpreting a narrative.

[@RACH90810]

​@@AnonTDegeneratehe ran away because he will discovered as Engetsu by other quincy and to prevent Isshin bankai from being stolen. He resorted to surgery to complement his missing quincy power.

[@BlackKnightsCommander]

I just realized that the Silver could be a reference to Judas's betrayal of Jesus, especially with Ywhach being a sort of adaptation of Jesus Christ with the whole Son of God and time passing twice as quickly in the mortal realm compared to Soul Society, making the Blood War take place 2000 years before the start of the arc in the mortal realm's years.

[@Mooinator3000]

I quite like the idea of the arrow, I'd just be happy with it being setup a bit earlier. Kinda like how the anime has given setup for Uryu joining the sternritter

[@gammafrost]

I know what you mean. Ryuken should have been more active in the war. It would have been nice if he helped Uryu take on hashwalth before going to assist in fighting ywach

[@wolfie_2687]

tbf the arrow was foreshadowed from really early on just never really mentioned again, i cant remember exactly when but uryu mentions walking in on his dad dissecting is mother body and he never knew why but it was to collect the silver for the arrowhead

[@wolfie_2687]

ah wait he literally talks about it and i was wrong was in the tybw

[@uraharakisuke1329]

Storytelling-wise I think that the Still Silver Arrow is a great idea and the way that Yhwach was defeated by his "sons born in the dark" is very cool. Both Ichigo and Uryu derived their motivations from the consequences of Yhwach's actions. Ichigo's will to protect comes from Masaki's death and Uryu infiltrates the Wandenreich to get revenge for Katagiri. In the end Yhwach's decision come back to bite him and that's a pretty good way to defeat a villain. The only problem with the arrow is that it was introduced so late. If they showed it and its abilities a lot earlier, I wouldn't have any problem with it.

[@jacobsunday6561]

The still sliver was foreshadowed early but there wasn’t that much build up to it, which can be good or bad in some cases. But for a majority of bleach fans, they thought it was a cheap way out of defeating Yhwach. With the added Uryu scenes in the upcoming cours, hopefully that can could develop it and satisfy those fans.

[@AnonTDegenerate]

Keep cooking. All they need is like an extra quincy legend about the silver

[@Superman54]

The whole thing was an asspull. Hopefully they change stuff in the anime to make this work, it could be awesome.

[@Microtardz]

@@Superman54 Not just an ass pull, an ass pull that doesn't make sense. Yhwach died, and then rewrote his own death. Disabling his powers for a couple of seconds doesn't matter much. He was cut in half, he's going to survive longer than a couple of seconds after being cut in half and be able to rewrite his own death again. The fact is, the author wrote themselves into a corner with Yhwach's power. He is quite literally omnipotent.

[@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773]

​@Microtardz well, it's a bad asspull. However kinda feel like the answer has been in front of us the whole time. A lot of white/silver theme in the Quncy color scheme. Even the crosses were made of silver. Uryuu's quincy tools were crafted out of soul silver. So it makes sense that silver is a tool of the quincy to be lethal and to bind.

[@joaquincortescasas8114]

​​@@MicrotardzHow would he revive himself without his powers to revive himself??? He couldn't use The All Mighty to see Uryu's arrow because either he was still under Kyoka Suigetsu or Uryu's Antithesis reversed the effect of it. He was screwed regardless of anything he had done, since he was fated to be killed by Zangetsu. Ichigo sliced Yhwach the same way he sliced the soul king. The father and son died against the only person who had a blade strong enough to shatter fate. The difference was that the Soul King saw his own death at the hands of Ichigo and accepted it, while Yhwach saw the same event, but deluded himself into not believing his own eyes. Also, ONLY Ichigo could've killed Yhwach since he was the only person who could kill the soul king as well. That is why Yhwach waited 1000 years, he needed Ichigo to be born to accomplish his plan of killing the soul king. But he failed to realize that would spell his demise as well.

[@danny123451]

Here's what i would have liked to see. The Gerard fight happens as normal but towards the end Isshin and Ryuken step in. Ryuken uses the arrow to stop the miracle and Isshin uses his bankai to kill Gerard. Ryuken then explains that the arrow he had was not enough to stop Yhwach's power and needed a silver blood clot from some one powerful Like Gerard and he uses that to forge the arrow used to stop Yhwach.

[@ahmadjohan6571]

err No

[@angenard1476]

Windy FTW :)

[@greyworld6242]

It’s actually interesting how aizen brought the espada together in a similar manner to how Yamamoto brought the soul reapers together that would form the original gotei 13. Just an interesting comparison I noticed. I think the anime will expand on the arrow head.

[@AnonTDegenerate]

The espada, X-cution and Sternritter were all mirrors to the Gotei 13. The problem with the Espada is they were all fundamentally broken. It's as Nnoitora said, they were destined to die without or with Aizen. Which, is a horrible mindset

[@saden-8934]

This is why Bleach is so special. With each reread and video analysis either from you or other channels something new still uncovers or a deeper understanding of specific aspects. Thank you for all your hard work! The silver arrow is a great concept. All the taking lives from Quincy backfired at Yhwach, an ultimate revenge from being bound to him in such cruel way. The world of Bleach being govern by Shinigami has it's flaws, and it is a curse that only Yhwach could change it. An idea that death would cease to exist is interesting, but looking at his character overall bet every soul would be bound to him in exchange, causing everyone to exist in a living nightmare of his omnipotence. Fate worse than death.

[@bryansierra0909]

12:19 it reminds me of the stand arrow from JoJo. Uryu used the arrow to take away Yhwach's abilities, while in JoJo the arrow is meant to GIVE you abilities, but if the arrow rejects you, then it kills you instead.

[@davidramirez3534]

I agree for the most part. I like that the arrow gives Ryuken a role in bringing down Yhwach and in turn avenging his wife. I just always thought it was so obvious how it should have ended. Ryuken shoots Ichigo with the arrow> Uryu uses antithesis between Ichigo & Yhwach> Yhwach uses yama's bankai while powers are down> Ishin uses his bankai or version of the final getsuga to carve a path for ichigo> Ichigo ends it.

[@ericm5315]

That would have been amazing

[@TymeTraveling777]

You need to send this to the producers

[@AnonTDegenerate]

The first thing Ichibei did was destroy his bankai tho. Also the Antithesis doesn't do that, it would work as a way to reverse them being defeated by Ywach tho. Or ensure the arrow hits in the first place

[@chaseapple85]

I like it

[@UselessP2]

@@AnonTDegenerateI think yhwach regained it after the fight like how he regained his almighty mid fight

[@skyrogue1977]

The power of love saved all of existence.

[@Leopoldshark]

*proud Huey Lewis noises*

[@christopherg2347]

10:00 I am convinced we saw that scene before in the Anime. Actually that was the moment Uryu decided to reject his father and never become a doctor, because he could not understand why he was doing it. Meaning when he _is_ a doctor 10 years later, it shows him accepting that moment.

[@YeyazWyrd]

This is the only channel I will watch Bleach content on. Love your videos, thank you!

[@Limxuv]

i think the still-silver arrow was a great device but the execution was rushed due to Kubo's waning health at the time. If he had more time to work it in it would've been a satisfying ending

[@OG_Cool_Cat]

I always knew Ryuken was really a good guy with a broken heart. I love the idea of this arrow. It’s literal karma for what Yhwach had done. It must have been unimaginably difficult for Ryuken to autopsy his own wife in order to understand what happened to her and who was responsible.

[@SteamTitan]

I really like that he gave it to Uryu. While it was his wife, it was Uryu's mother. So in the end, Yhwarch is brought low by the sons of two he took the mothers from, who are carrying the will and hopes of all the realms and people with them now to stop his plan.

[@user-dz5ne5vx7l]

Glad you're over 200k. I hope you stay well

[@kapuzzemaa24]

Just realised that i had not subscribed to you, fixed that. Thank you for the great content.

[@PleasantlyLee]

These videos really make understand that I speedread Bleach back in the day.

[@natevoid9955]

I like the arrowhead and the backstory of Uryu’s mom I think it’s a perfect way to close that arc

[@Duckywest412]

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[@biiyen8458]

I hope we get a fight sequence leading up to the firing of the Silver Arrow where the only ones left are Ichigo, Isshin, Uryu, and Ryuken where both father and son pairs use Bankai and Letzt Stil respectively for the last stand against Ywach

[@LeoLikesLamb]

Your videos butter my biscuits thank you

[@HusbandOfManyWives1776]

I hope we get to see more of Ryuken in action cause I always thought he was a pretty cool character.

[@viktorbagic5516]

TBH I always imagined him fighting him against Aizen 1vs1, and being able to force Aizen to use his Bankai because of Ryuken's immense strength, which in turn makes Aizen show proper Respect towards Ryuken's power, along with Isshin.

[@Ihavewetdreamsabout]

@@viktorbagic5516 bro are u cracked out what can he possibly do against aizen

[@viktorbagic5516]

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[@Ihavewetdreamsabout]

@@viktorbagic5516 so he is going to harden defences against casual nuke dropper ok

[@viktorbagic5516]

@@Ihavewetdreamsabout yeah 😁

[@lumingaming]

Love your content. Your passion is inspiring!

[@TheAtomicMilkshake]

maaaaybe in the future, on another channel, not the gaming one, do you think you could explain or review movies? i just like the way you are explaining things. it s a win win, the community will give u good movies to watch (i hope) and we will find good movies to see

[@ravKenclaw]

I want more Quincy on Quincy infighting.

[@WalkenDead]

The silver arrow is actually very fitting. Yhwach is made to look like Dracula thru the whole thing. Very Vlad Tepesh. He's a vampire who feeds on the souls of his progeny to regain stregnth. I guess that is the basics of it, he's a vamp, get's weakened by silver, dies.

[@AccipiterSmith]

Well, someone said that Yuha was an expy of the devil and the loose (or true) meaning of the Dracula name in Wallachian is "son of the devil", so this one fits like a Sternritter glove.

[@chopprXQ]

Amazing insight!

[@thebreifcaseman269]

I think that there needs to be some sort of scene of ishine and uryu's dad joining up and then talking about their feelings about the Quincy king and there is still one final part of the making of the arrow that needs to be done to finish it, so they meet up with urahara to finish it. They finish it and then run of to kill the Quincy king but get stoped by a powerful Quincy and so pass it to uryu to finish the job, then we get to see ishine s banki and those two have a bad ass fight scene stoping the Quincy from warning the king. I think that would be really cool to see as well as in a episode before this there is a flash back leading into this showing the process of making the arrow.

[@theoneandonlyguyallikian1190]

It's one thing to be able to draw characters with excellent precision. It's almost an entirely different level though to be able to draw the specifics well enough that you can tell when two characters are related, but never confusing who's who

[@MrGksarathy]

I like the Still Silver arrow thematically and as a plot device, but it was absolutely rushed, and it was used in such a way to rob us of a better Ywach fight with more characters involved. As for Ryuken's plan, I personally think that a huge reason he was able to work on it under the radar is because Ywach could not comprehend a Quincy hating him for taking back his power from a loved one.

[@saika1615]

Seeing lots more of Ryuken in the anime adaptation is already making these final key moments with the ending even more impactful in my honest opinion. I really cannot wait for the near future :)

[@sharksbean]

I want to point out that Ichigo losing his soul reaper power via final Getsuga Tenshou was foreshadowed by how Ishida similarly lost his powers battling Kurtotsuchi through the Quincy variant which produced much the same effect.

[@maxinea.sakaki4151]

Is the same fucking attack

[@adityairawan1843]

Practically Saigo no Getsuga Tensho was Ichigo's own version of Quincy: Letzt Stil.

[@Puckanm]

I loved Ryuken at first but it just feels so much lost potential. When He saved his son with just 1 arrow and BOOM destroyed that High speed Regen Hollow I lost it man SO GOOD!!!!

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

I like all the stuff they have been adding and the arrow is definitely something the should add more to

[@mustafaozdemiroglu5853]

What if Isshın and Ryuken join the battle before? I think they can take at least 3 Sterrnitter.

[@SargonsEye]

Ryuken alone could solo two of the, Isshin two, so make that a 5 SRs.

[@corruptangel6793]

I don't see how. Ryuken is just a generic Captain Class Quincy without a schrift or Volsterndig. He doesn't even have a Letz Stil glove to use. He would be fodder to any Sternritter

[@Crunchysopa52]

@@corruptangel6793 you don't know that for sure at all

[@corruptangel6793]

@@Crunchysopa52 technically true, but we know he didn't receive communion, so the chances of him achieving a Schrift on his own is near nil. We knew he's not part of the current gen Sternritter, so no Volsterndig. We are told by Haschwalth that there was only 1 Letz Stil glove Uryu's grandfather stole and Uryu already used it. So those two things are certain. As for powerlevel, I'm being generous assuming he's Captain class purely on him being an adult. We have nothing on him beyond that. But there's no way he's anything beyond low 3rd grade captain at his age. Not unless there's some secret method the quincy have to vastly increase powerlevel in a minute amount of time (outside of communion with Yhwach obviously), which we have no reason to assume.

[@MaxIronsThird]

@@corruptangel6793 Teenage Ryuuken was already Captain Level, as he's most certainly stronger than Masaki and she held her own against White, which Isshin was having a hard time with, in shikai.

[@kazuhirosamadesu5650]

Another moment of foreshadowing could be other quincies using material for arrow heads. It's hard for me to say how effective this would be but I think it would fit

[@vanguardduelist]

I’m looking forward to seeing more from Ryuken. I’m sure we’ll get more from him in the anime.

[@gammafrost]

They better. This guy deserved a few fights. I was expecting him to fight ywach before being brutally killed

[@FoxFighter-HellBringer]

Ryuken is such a cool character and I was always so disappointed that he was so sparsely used. If they could flesh him out more, I'd be so happy. I mean, for the most part, all we've ever seen from him is his weirdly abusive behavior toward Uryu. I do appreciate that he loved his wife, but what would truly make me happy is to see him show more to him. Like, maybe even show happy memories of little Uryu, Katagiri, and him so we can fully understand his grief. Show how much he cares for her and maybe even feeling empathy for a young Uryu who can't understand why his mom is dead which is what becomes his motivation. His vengeance. I'd especially love it if he and Isshin were shown battling some of the Sternritter there. Like, maybe they see Uryu and try to stop him so they get involved? Or maybe their presence alone motivates the Sternritter to attack them. Just something besides them delivering the arrow since Ryuken is LITERALLY wearing his Quincy garb for the first time since Everything But the Rain.

[@shimy2593]

I know a lot of people don’t like the ending, but I love it so much. I love how the silver came from a being that gave her whole life and soul to the quincies. I love that the arrow was made by a different being where everything he had was taken away by the quincies. And together they are the main reason the creator of the quincies dies is so…. AAAAAA it’s my favorite thing ever

[@gammafrost]

As always this breakdown is well said. Ryuken is an underrated character and although he’s shown very little, he does play a crucial role. It just needs a lot more expansion. Kubo better have Ryuken and isshin assist during the final battles in some way. We’ve never seen Ryuken face a powerful opponent

[@SaturnineXTS]

Would really be nice to see Ryuken go all out someday, he's got that really dashing vibe

[@timdavidson8964]

I wonder if the arrowhead has a direct tie to Pernida and Mimihagi. Most of Yhwach's powers and actions are about advancement and his motives seem to actively negate the value of stillness. Auswalhen is a power that enables advancement, similar to the powers of advancement the Soul King possessed through his left arm, Pernida. However, the Soul King possessed the power of stillness as well in his right arm, Mimihagi. I wonder if the silver created by Auswalhen represents the fact Yhwach is still subject to the power of stillness, even if he attempts to discard it. Furthermore, stillness seems to be a power that protects or avenges those who would be destroyed by the reckless advancement desired by Yhwach. One could argue then that the arrowhead represents Yhwach's failure to embrace both sides of the Soul King's legacy. By abusing Auswalhen, Yhwach rejects the power of stillness, thus making himself vulnerable to its effects.

[@Treacherous_One]

its been so long since I read the manga, I completely forgot about this aspect of the story. I feel like I should go back and revisit the manga.

[@charlieturner5831]

Will you do a video series on the history of noble clans of soul society?

[@AaronGeller]

Subbed

[@rmeddy]

Thematically it kinda works but yeah it needed more connective tissue, hopefully the anime would at least give a better throughline to have this story beat flow a bit better. I always felt we should've seen more with the lineage of Soken, Ryuken and Uryu. I felt the flashback should've been a young Soken and Haschwalth, and then have Ryuken be the double agent playing the long con against Yhwach and have Uryu be isolated and emotionally conflicted on the whole situation. Until Ryuken comes around later and fills him in on the plan, making it clearer what Yhwach's blindspot is If it's good enough for Ganon it's good enough for Yhwach

[@bigl56]

I would love to see ryuken join uryu in his fight against haschwolf (definitely misspelled lol)

[@satmtca]

I honestly hope that we get to see more episodes in the anime that fills in more gaps and that we get to see Ishin and Ryuken battle together

[@mr.effigy3885]

I do think it was sent out of nowhere but the ideas of the arrow are very cool

[@evilmasterstudios]

Neat thing about anime. It can extend that final battle by several episodes if they want to

[@mustafaozdemiroglu5853]

Hello MrTommo I have a question for you and ppease answer I Watch your “Hisagi Bankai” video but still I don’t one thing. If Hisagi capture a very Strong enemy like Zaraki or Shunsui in his Bankai. Is there still a draw.

[@jayveemacalinao8580]

I like the idea of Mayuri collecting still silver, just to prepare in the future. 😅 imagine getting Silver from Gerald's Heart, will that be big? Will that be something else because it's reios heart? What about an Asauchi Zanpakuto made of still silver? A lot of what ifs and possibilities.

[@kruelangel]

Just noticed that when Auschwallen happened, both Isshin and Ryuken lost their wives almost at the same time and Ryuken lost his first and last love as well. Poor Ryu-chan🥲

[@SwagIzThaName]

I did always feel like Juua Bach suffered from the Madara syndrome. However, in comparison, I like how the silver arrow was implemented vs how Madara was plot armored to death because he was too strong. Not saying the arrow isn't plot armor but l, I feel it was presented better even if it was very short.

[@mlo009]

Yeah man, both are presented way too strong. Ichigo may have the possibility to do it with True Bankai, but was taken away in a page.

[@mtgrell]

Hopefully they give this some more spotlight didn’t realize till I watched cour 1 that if anyone would have beef besides isshin it was ryuken after yawach killed his wife

[@rsidle9940]

now that i think about since yhwach was able to see futures and alter them or something even going to future and breaking ichigos bankai i kinda can see why the arrow was introduced basically last minute as to say this is one future possibility he didnt see or overlooked

[@poochyenajones1362]

What the anime really needs is just to give more build up to still silver. Maybe even throw some flashbacks of Ryuken discussing it with Soken. Just not right before the final battle but earlier. And that would be more than enough.

[@hitkid2456]

What really is needed is an explanation on how Souken knew about it. Because as it is, he is just shown, and describes how it works, and that's it. But how would he possibly have known that? It would help even more feel less out of nowhere.

[@FlameMirage]

To be honest, I was hoping the final fight included the strongest hollow, quincy & ichigo fighting yhwach bach. It would be nice to see them show the desperation of all races trying to fight someone from destroying all their worlds. Just something I thought would be cool. It would be awesome if Orihime heals Nell's head wound and she goes full force.

[@alexhulea2735]

that arrow is kubo writing himself out of a corner. when he made ywach able to choose to win when he loses with no cost to himself, infinitely, and at will he made any fight with him unwinnable.

[@garrison778]

Honestly, I’d love to have scene Ryuken fight a sternritter.

[@BlackHedgehog]

Here's hoping Ryuken gets more in the anime. I'm not sure if you've already done it but I'd love to see your thoughts and such on Kazui (particularly his whole thing with Yhwach) so many years later. The one thing I still don't quite understand is why Uryu didn't die when his mother did as he is by all accounts of mixed blood too.

[@svmeyaa]

It was because of his schrift, the Antithesis. This is why Yhwach said to Uryuu that he had the ability to surpass his own powers, because he was passively and unknowing rejecting the Almighty and its powers. hope this answers your question!! :D

[@thediaz07]

I wish we knew how strong Ryuken really is ..I wanted to see him fight.

[@Mimi-vv9gz]

he will win his first on-panel fight even if it's against yamamoto because beginners Ruck

[@TheDAWBOG]

the missed potential of this arc will always make me cry

[@godreap3820]

It’s not that serious

[@TheDAWBOG]

@@godreap3820 sorry just can't help myself

[@godreap3820]

@@TheDAWBOG I understand my fault

[@SinHurr]

Ryuken on the outside: "..." Ryuken on the inside: ATTACK AND DETHRONE GOD

[@Jackraiden500]

i'm very much in agreement that something needs to be done to expand on the arrow. It does have that bit of foreshadowing but not enough imo. I also agree that it should stay in the anime, it just needs to be expanded upon.

[@tonesnaps]

FACTS i truly hope they dont change that ending!

[@dustinbragg1921]

I feel like it could've been implemented better. I mean by the final arc we've been introduced to Ryuuken investigating the cause of his wife's death, two Fullbrings that can theoretically counteract Ywach's fate manipulation together but lack the power behind them to meaningfully do it, two absolutely genius mad scientists, a master spiritual weaponsmith, and even a bunch of Quincy that were just killed by the selection.

[@fiamma_23]

Just like you said, the arrow doesn't have to be foreshadowed in previous arc or anything. As long as we get some clues in TYBW, it's not deus ex machina.

[@kamilpetrykowski2819]

Hey, thinking about ryuken, ranking of the smartest Bleach characters would be a nice episode

[@dashaunaustin6479]

until TYBW arc, i thought Ryuken was Ishida's odler brother. but i might not have paid enough attention to the OG series

[@RedPandaLesbian]

Ryuken @ Uryu when he wants to know about Quincy things "this doesn't concern you." Kubo @ ryuken while writing an entire arc about the quincies "this doesn't concern you."

[@fathergucci9588]

To be honest, the arrow be able to hit Yhwach is still a plot hole and I can throughly explain without any type of headcannon speculation During chapter 684 When Uryu came to shoot the arrow at Yhwach, Yhwach had no recollection of what it was (The Arrow) that was coming at him; he stated, “What is this” he would’ve known what it was if the almighty was activated but for some reason it miraculously wasn’t. Even if you disregard that he can change a variety of futures to suit him so why didn't he change the future to the one where Uryu wouldn't be able to shoot him? If you say he can't do that then how do you explain him changing the future to break ichigos bankai. Not only that but Yhwach should’ve been able to foresee Uryu’s actions with the almighty regardless if the auswählen didn’t work on him as what some people might say, because when the almighty was transferred to Haschwalth he foresaw that Uryu was going to do a betrayal towards them and even foresaw how he was going to respond to Ichigo in chapter 661. The silver arrow has the power to temporarily stop yhwachs powers that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t have been visible for Yhwach to see it within the future something like how he couldn’t forsee the soul kings right arm. The antithesis had absolutely nothing to do with Yhwachs death. It’s just a clear plot hole. The reason as to why the antithesis is a counter to the almighty is only the because if Yhwach was to break a sword through the almighty Uryu would just reverse the effects to where the sword didn’t break. It’s like a recovery ability. It’s a counter because it can undo any damage inflicted on something that not only Yhwach with his almighty does but also what anyone does in general.

[@AJ-kt5zo]

Fair point. Just wish it rearranged or used in different so that a bigger final battle was still needed.

[@gamingwhilebroken2355]

Thematically him being killed by the arrow (an representation of his power) is fitting. In a lot of mythology (particularly Greek mythology) heroes undoing is often their hubris, particularly heroes that were the children of Gods. Not to mention it plays into the idea that “Only a God could harm a God,” as gods should be so far beyond mortals that mortals couldn’t touch them. So it’s fitting that the mortals had to harness the power of a God to harm him and that they essentially had to make him fall from godhood, if even for only a second, to defeat him. As a mortal shouldn’t be able, under any circumstances be able to harm a god.

[@SylverZ]

I’m not 100% but I have a vague memory in the anime (only?) Kisuke did mention something about silver and heart after the fight against Quilge ? Is it something related to the arrow or something like a better foreshadowing

[@Vyhox2000]

I like the arrow as a plot device, but I do agree that is should have gotten more foreshadowing

[@mikehazel9991]

I think it's a great storyline I hope they don't change that aspect in the anime. It brings everything full-circle. What a great story survival and revenge.

[@SasukeY2JItachi]

I really hope they change a few elements of the final battle that would include Ichigo, Uryuu and Aizen Uryuu's actual holy form and let Aizen use Bankai which I assume should be similar to Danzou from Naruto casting the illusion upon himself which also affects his opponent.

[@korbinbrown6351]

I don’t really like bleach but I love your video talking about it

[@imagingteam]

Hopefully we'll see Ryuken and Ishiin fighting

[@jeepdino7353]

Honestly the only thing I would change, is I'd have Ryuken and Isshin go into battle against Juha alongside Uryu to create a clear shot for him. Ryuken can use Letz Stil, and Isshin can use Final Getsuga Tenshou, and at the very least distract Juha. After Aizen is consumed, before Ichigo is enveloped, there should be a decent sequence where Ryuken and Isshin get their shots in. I also like the idea of Bazz-B confirming the Silver idea. Robert was obviously old, maybe thousands of years old if he's been with Juha since the first war, so he turned into a skeleton cause of having that immortality stripped, Katagiri died because she was already frail, it makes sense that Bazz-B, a young, fit boi with plenty of muscle on his bones could walk off a minor heart blockage.

[@gourrey]

I always wondered who used the silver on Yhwach before for them to know about it's uses since he's the only one who does auschwallen.

[@kishinasura1504]

As long as they explain why the arrow can actually render him powerless, and give it a little more of foreshadowing I would be pleased.

[@rsmith8113]

Ryuken is one of the coolest character in Bleach, I hope he gets more screen time in the anime!

[@CobbyMorales6747]

I haven't seen anyone acknowledge this but. Near the end of chapter 13 of the TYBW arc anime, when Yhwach Zangetsu "desapears" two silvery-ish droplets appear floating where his heart would be. I might be wrong. But could it be a little extra foreshadowing?

[@seanrollins2383]

I do think the arrow would be a lot more interesting if there was more than one, gathered after the countless Quincy deaths, then iryuu just supports ichigo with them for the entire final fight

[@p90p90]

I actually love the arrowhead, the symbolism of an arrowhead having three point and representing Ryuken, kanae and Uryu is beautiful both physically as shown in the panel and as a symbol.

[@ExitScam]

I always liked Ryuken. Cool characters

[@sacredgear]

I really hope he and Isshin get at least one battle in the anime. It would be nice to see them take out some sternritter. I’m sure Ryuuken has ton of anti Quincy tech

[@joenandez5880]

My issue with the ending wasnt the arrow per-se it was the breaking of ichigos bankai and then fixing of it. Following one of your explainations i understood how it actually happened and felt better about it however theres also kinda a side effect of that at least in my mind. When its rewritten that the bankai wasnt broken just damaged and then its fixed by orihime. Doesnt that mean that it brings ichigo up to that power level so to speak where ywachs attack cant outright break it. Like how it does for tsukishima when he rewrites himself into memories and then gets stronger to make those memories make sense. Regardless my main change would be as you said to have Mayuri figure out about the silver as the war goes on and have him make essentially a weapon for ichigo made of it after collecting it from various corpses however because ywach is on constant watch of ichigo during the fight anytime he gets close to using it he fails because ywach just blocks it. Eventually destroying the weapon or considering how mayuri and his past schemes perhaps making a potion out of it and telling ichigo to drink it prior to the fight. When ywach goes to steal ichigos quincy powers it also drags with it a portion of the silver, not enough to take effect immediately but enough to prevent his full power omniscience from seeing the arrow that hits him causing a chain reaction could even say thats why ichigo can still reforge his quincy sheath when ywach takes his powers because taking the potion suppressed his quicy powers so ywach took only what little was still active and after he absorbed the silver ichigos full quincy powers reactivate. And then ichigo kills him that same way as in the manga but now its a little less instant deus ex machina and more of a culmination of everyone working together. Im more surprised that kisuke didnt already have a plan for ywach getting omniscience considering how overly prepared he using is. Maybe add in mayuri finding some old research he did on the quincy's and how the bodies had some unusual material residue always in the same place.

[@ark_knight]

But why would you want to give more importance to Mayuri than he already does in last arc xD

[@joenandez5880]

@ark_knight mostly to just have something more tangible. You could just say it was urahara as well if that's an issue.

[@gxtmfa]

I always got the impression that deadlines outpaced Kubo’s ability to plan his storytelling, which is unfortunate.

[@martin7729]

The term here would be poetic justice. For yhwack to have all of his powers that he gained stripping quincys or their life. Only to have it turned on him and to rip everything he stole from him

[@procow2274]

The whole thing explains ryukens anti quincy stance a lot more than the whole there is no profit in it.