Ryzen 5 3600 Overheating -- How I fixed it with a Hyper 212 Evo!

[@PCTechHustle]

✔ Yes you can build a $600 Gaming PC in 2022!!! Check it out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWfdg6Cmf9eqesk

[@NEFeldman]

I’ve used the Hyper 212 EVO in a couple of builds, and being so inexpensive, to me is the best aftermarket air cooler around.

[@PCTechHustle]

Agreed! It is one of the best price-to-performance coolers out there!

[@NEFeldman]

One other thing to comment on this is I placed it inside my newest computer build for a client with the Z490 Chipset and Core i7 10700k processor. So far at idle, temps were hovering at around 40 c. I didn’t do a Cinebench Test, but one can assume that if it’s at 40 c idle, temps will be around 75 c- 80 c when at max gaming. Now of course he has a RTX 2060 in the rig I built for him, but for his needs, it will be just fine.

[@brogonbtw]

If your wrong my pc that im making might break and im 13 so I don't want to drug deal to get a pc again

[@NEFeldman]

brogon btw I’ve done over 20 or so builds, and out of them none failed. I did a upgrade recently with a hyper 212evo on a friends old pc he gave me, and by me over tightening it caused the pins in the motherboard to bend deeming it no good. I will have a replacement one in order soon as it was an 8 year old Asus P8B75V LGA 1155 motherboard. It won’t break as long as you’re not over tightening the screws into the motherboard.

[@starzs2649]

Neil Feldman btw can you use any cpu cooler for any pc

[@yambo59]

A good tower cooler is always better than most any stock cooler. Ive got a really old Hyper212 and its still going strong with its original fan as well, never any temp issues.

[@PCTechHustle]

Heck yeah!

[@MinhNguyen-ry9hw]

Thanks for making this video. Was worried for hours thinking I had done something wrong.

[@PCTechHustle]

Sure thing!

[@1mLouis]

I was like "Ill buy the ryzen 5 3600 but I bet the stock cooler will be enough if I dont overclock it, I mean I have my current i5-6600k on 4.4Ghz OC and its still at max 78°C" but boy oh buy was I wrong as I saw this video! Thanks for the tip.

[@PCTechHustle]

Glad you found it helpful!

[@googleceo1366]

i am so glad that I found your video, even your 4 year old video from KZbin helped me realize that my cpu temp was not normal, My Ryzen 5 3600 was idling at about 70 degrees Celsius and recently my pc was blue screening i just bought a new cooler . thank brother!!!!

[@PCTechHustle]

Awesome! Glad you found it helpful!

[@deathmaster260]

So glad I found this video honestly. I built my first pc about 3 months ago, friends picked out the parts for me and assured me that the newer wraith cooler was actually decent for a stock cooler and I wouldn't need to buy a new one. I checked temperatures often at first but got really lax and then checked it a few days ago and it hit a whopping 100c while I was gaming :( I kept searching on Google and it seems nobody else had temps this high even after changing the thermal paste it went right back up to 99 playing a game... Just watching this it's hovering around 60-70c lol undoubtedly ordering a new cooler right now appreciate the video!

[@PCTechHustle]

Awesome! Glad I could help!

[@hazeqaiman9026]

yo bro. does the new cooler works?

[@villagerscout1023]

Wish I knew this before buying the ryzen 5 3600, I didn’t realize the stock cooler that came with it is that bad after seeing many people replacing it

[@PCTechHustle]

Well now you know I guess! 😉😉😉

[@TheBeastOfAllBeasts2]

For my first build, I decided (at first) that I did not want to invest the extra money in a separate heatsink for my R5 3600. When I first got to the BIOS (luckily on my first try), the CPU temp was in the 50C range (albeit, my room has poor ventilation so that also attributes to the higher temps). I thought that this was strange and was worried that I did something wrong in my installation of the stock cooler. After watching this video, I decided to get the Hyper 212 Black edition as I have a black-themed build. Went from 45-55C in idle to about 35-45C even while having chrome tab open, and hitting similar temps in Minecraft on very high settings with youtube open watching videos (about a 5C increase on Ryzen master). I ran Cinebench r20 with the stock cooler and was hitting up to 85C!!!! After installing the new cooler, I hit about 71C max on r20 and even got a slightly better score (40 point increase). Even if you do not plan on overclocking (I am not currently), it is definitely worth upgrading from the stock Wraith Stealth cooler. With that being said, this cooler definitely gives me the ability to overclock, which I like. I would definitely recommend this CPU cooler. Even if you do not want to go with cooler master, I would definitely recommend upgrading the cooler in some form (whether you go with a heatsink or AIO is up to you of course). Great video btw!

[@PCTechHustle]

Awesome! I’m glad you found value in the video and. Also glad you were able to get control of the temps of your system!

[@Magnulus76]

Going to the AMD CBS section of the bios and enabling "Low current idle" will help alot with idle power consumption. Idle CPU temperature is 39 degrees with a stock cooler.

[@colin5463]

Idle 65-68 Degrees ( Ryzen 5 3600 ) 95C On high intensive games Will update once my 212 Evo is delivered and thermal paste on wednesday

[@prooneprune]

Hey man, big thanks for the video, i was experiencing the exact same problem with temperatures for my ryzen 5 3600. However, the solution that helped me was turning Core Performance Boost off, i didn't expect that to help, but it did.

[@prooneprune]

In addition, in bios it was set as "Auto", when i set it to "Disabled" all was gucci afterwards.

[@PCTechHustle]

Yeah core performance boost will apply extra power to the chip to allow it to boost higher however doesn’t work well if the cooling solution can’t handle the extra heat. You might want to consider still getting a better cooler to squeeze out a bit more performance with core performance boost enabled. Glad you found the video helpful though! Thanks for watching!

[@gwnstein1517]

@@prooneprune i disabled pbo and it dropped from 90,91 to max 84

[@odysseycoffeeroasters995]

10:08 That's FAN-tastic :)

[@JayzBeerz]

I did a 3600 build for my wife and daughter and just realized how hot they run. I need a white cooler so I went with the Deep Cool Gammaxx GTE V2. I hope they make it run cooler.

[@PCTechHustle]

Those are good coolers, you should some some good temperature drops!

[@user-bm5ht8ze2t]

I have a DeepCool Gammaxx 400 for the same build. Same results.

[@mishiro6170]

@@user-bm5ht8ze2t it ran hotter or cooler?

[@rileyb2878]

my 3600 got 101c with stock cooler. im so glad i got the 212

[@PCTechHustle]

Yeah that’s toasty!

[@Mitsuoxx]

I had my Hyper 212 Evo with my old i7 4790. Then I upgraded to a ryzen 7 2700 and now a ryzen 5 5600x. Tbh, 5600x does not need a 212, but it's just part of my build, now and forever.

[@PCTechHustle]

its a great cooler indeed!

[@riskiriyadi1446]

I upgraded mine to 3600 last night. The heat issue are real. My idle temps hover at 50-60 and whenever I play AAA games, the cpu overheat. The stock cooler really doesn't cut it. And now, I have the 212 on the way. Hope it will work just like yours.

[@PCTechHustle]

You should be fine after the h121 install!

[@moNYTx]

I've had this cooler on 3 or 4 pc builds from 10 years ago and it's still an amazing cooler for my needs.

[@PCTechHustle]

It’s absolutely withstood the test of time!

[@lukeewarner]

Just bought a 212 cooler man and will be installing it soon. Was experiencing the same high temperature issues as well. I also undervolted the 3600 to try to reduce the temperature which helped a bit as well. Thanks for the video man

[@PCTechHustle]

Once you get the cooler installed I’d recommend normalizing your voltages so Precision Boost can work as designed. Since now you will have a better cooling solution Precision Boost will have more head room to add voltage and clocks dynamically.

[@jayvaunmanos9673]

I thought I had a bad ryzen 5 3600 until I saw this video. I'm currently using wraith prism and it's still around 90c when doing stress test. what I did was manually clocked it to 4.1ghz at 1.2v. now it won't go pass 75c.

[@PCTechHustle]

Get you a better cooler and you can gain that performance back and stay cool! ;)

[@theburgerking4265]

Thanks dude. I saw @Joey Delgado $800 build and the cpu temps were high 90s. I haven't built the pc yet but I am definitely adding this cooler to the list. I hope it works as good for me as it did for you. This will be my first pc build

[@PCTechHustle]

I don’t doubt you will be completely fine with the hyper 212. Good luck with your build!

[@theburgerking4265]

While I'm here how long do you think the $800 joey Delgado pc will last? (Only answer if you feel like it) what might I have to upgrade down the line

[@jedd1099]

I was experiencing the same thing with my 3600!

[@PCTechHustle]

I’ve had a lot of people tell me the same here in the comments! Time to get you a new cooler!

[@NicolasSilvaVasault]

i've been on blue team for quite a long time, but after hearing so much praise to amd, i decided to build a rig with ryzen 5 3600, and i can't believe how terrible the temps are, and yes i bought this cooler master 212 red led, and cinebench r20 with 28º room temp, the cpu reaches 80º, i still believe this is a lot for a rig like mine, even my laptop with an intel i5 reaches 78º, the problem is, this is not giving me space to overclock the cpu at all

[@PCTechHustle]

Sure 80c is where I would say is starting to be borderline high but also know Cinebench r20 is also a benchmarking tool designed to heavily stress your components. I’d say if your normal operational temps are lower which I would expect then you are more than fine.

[@NicolasSilvaVasault]

@@PCTechHustle i mean this is a massive cpu cooler, it almost touches the side panel of my pc case, i really was expecting more, but still, i guess it doesn't go beyond that, i decide to test it out with a 34º room temp and it doesn't ramp up beyond 82º, better than stock for sure

[@PCTechHustle]

There are much bigger ones like the Noctua or Be Quiet brands but those will go for around $80-100. You could see some more temp drop with those.

[@aussiedigger1441]

Wow, can't believe you dropped so much heat just with cooler & not adjusting volts in bios. I have this cooler and will try to get my idle temp down from 81c on a Ryzen 5 3600. Thanks for sharing.

[@PCTechHustle]

Absolutely! Hope you can get yours cooled down too!

[@pedrosanchezvaldez6010]

You actually saved my computer, thanks bro

[@PCTechHustle]

Glad to hear it helped!

[@xalalalala]

I think the overheating of these CPU's are motherboard related most of the time. Right now I'm using a Ryzen 5 3600XT on a Aorus B450 Elite running the latest FW and the CPU idles and throttles like crazy without running any software. It's crazy! Even the Wraith Prism which I'm using can't handle it properly.

[@PCTechHustle]

You may be right, I wish I had more hardware on hand to fully test that out.

[@JuanNoguera911]

I got aorus b450 pro wifi and the ryzen 3600XT stock cooler and my cpu temps playing Warzone is around 66° to 74°

[@threadworm437]

I use the black edition 212, its sp amazing. Before I couldn't really play most games besides like skyrim but after I got it my pc never overheated again

[@PCTechHustle]

Awesome! Yeah the black edition is super sexy!

[@MJ-je7pt]

I've just upgraded to the 212 black and wow! My temps were maxing out at 95°C with only 80-85% CPU utilisation before, but now I can hit 95-100% without the CPU going above 70°C

[@PCTechHustle]

Awesome!

[@nautilust3790]

I'm glad I found someone else with the same problem. While my temps arnt AS high. I do idle at 40-50 and am very uncomfortable knowing that. So I've bought the 212 and can't wait to use my pc without worry that its going to crash

[@PCTechHustle]

Glad you found this helpful!

[@rathstar]

I'm just shocked you gave a system to client with no testing at all :(

[@PCTechHustle]

We did basic testing to ensure everything was working and got drivers installed, etc. Agreed though, a bit of an oversight of mine to assume the stock cooling would work out just fine as it has for me in the past. Learning lesson to benchmark every single build (which I normally do) this was for a close friend though, so they can call me anytime ;)

[@AlexLP0]

@@PCTechHustle Understandable since the first Ryzen stock coolers were good. I got a Ryzen 1600, I dont use the stock cooler but while watching videos of the newer stock coolers for 2600 and 3600 I realized that they are about half as thick as my stock cooler for the 1600.

[@AmCanTech]

Client gets what he paid for

[@Zer0megaXX]

@@AlexLP0 The issue is the 2600, 3600 have the wraith stealth which for the lower end cpu's is plenty these two REALLY need the spire thats included in the x variants.

[@iliketomovince2919]

My 3600 rig's temp is a little lower than this so I'm not getting the blue screen, but it's definitely hot. I'm so glad to have watched this, I'll be buying an after-market cooler ASAP. Great content. Take my like and subscription.

[@PCTechHustle]

Thanks for the like and sub! Have a great day!

[@Weebwhacker]

6 months after building my pc. My pc needed a reset after gaming for a while and at boot up it was telling me it was over heating. I took a look and it was running at 85c!!

[@karlripkenmendoza4927]

I also have almost the same problem as what your client has except for I didnt experience any system shutdowns on my pc.My 3600 temps were 95c-101c (when it was summer here) and though I didn't experience any issues I'm not really comfortable with seeing those high temps.At first I thought the stock cooler would be enough to cool my cpu (based on written and YT videos of course) but clearly it isnt the case.I've recently bought and installed a hyper 212 black edition and what a great buy it is!Cpu temps got down 10-20c which is very good!

[@ouassimzayani8806]

People forget that the stock cooler have pre-installed thermal paste and that seems to be the problem for too much overheating. So if you're not looking to overclock to much. Remove the pre-installed thermal paste and apply another one The Correct way

[@PCTechHustle]

The stock paste is plenty fine really. The cooler itself just isn’t adequate. Sure you might see like 1-2c difference with a top of the line paste but it isn’t the root cause of overheating

[@zach7384]

Hmm. Just built my R3600 system a few days ago, runs between 45-55c idle(depending on ambient temp) and about 72-75c during 1 hour+ Warzone sessions. Occasionally hits 81c for a second or two, then drops back to the 70ish average. Stock cooler, stock paste. No issues whatsoever. Still plan on getting an aftermarket cooler, but it's surprising to see so many users experiencing heat issues. If it's seated correctly you shouldn't be experiencing thermal shut downs.

[@PCTechHustle]

I tend to agree but I did remount mine multiple times. Also obviously not my first rodeo with PC building. I wonder if there is a bit of manufacturing defects causing some of this because as you can see I wasn’t the only person with the problem.

[@zach7384]

@@PCTechHustle Definitely wasn't implying you don't know what you're doing, I'd imagine you're more familiar than I am. Yes, many people having the same problem surprised me, high temps sure, but overheating & shutdowns being so common is definitely odd. I heard somewhere there's 2 versions of the 3600, the first one, and a revision? Maybe the newer one is more stable? If that's not the case, possibly manufacture defects like you mentioned. If my cpu was overheating out of the box with the stock cooler I'd get it swapped out honestly.

[@christiancrow]

Uninstall epic won’t overheat then

[@hunedog8693]

Had some heat issues as well with a 3700X 3070 combo. I found a reddit thread that helped me download the latest chipset drivers with a couple of command prompt instructions that gave me a custom AMD profile that eliminated the problem. Now idling at 37C gaming in the low 70s. Still rocking the Wraith Prism for now.

[@PCTechHustle]

I’m surprised to hear the Prism gave you heat issues. It’s substantially a better cooler than the stealth or spire coolers.

[@christiancrow]

Epic game store is the huge part of that , it uses a lot of cpu when not doing anything and gaming , free doesn’t mean free it means your pc belongs to epic now

[@PCTechHustle]

Hah! Yeah I heard about that!

[@Osorio]

My first pc build's ryzen 3600 was overheating at 95C when gaming. I replaced the stock cooler and temps lowered down to 70 to 75C. I guess the stock cooler for this cpu is just bad.

[@PCTechHustle]

Yep, it’s just not adequate anymore. I’ve used it on 1600s and 2600s with no issues, which is why I assumed there would be none. The 3600 is another story!

[@companymo7767]

i have the same problem now when I play assassin creed it is just goes to 90 sometimes . i was very worried I will buy snowman and hopefully it fixed the problem

[@claydecloure]

I had the exact same problem as well. Was playing GTA today and my frames were fine, but it blue screened with a CPU temp warning. I'm grabbing this cooler ASAP.

[@mw38390]

I hit 75c on benchmarks and it shuts down.

[@MainakDev]

Faced the same issue, while gaming CPU temp went to 90+ I’ll replace the stock cooler with a NH-D15

[@connors3356]

i’m amazed how hot the 3600 runs in this video. I use a noctua low profile nhl12s, and it reaches around 77c in cinebench, and high 30s at idle. And to think i was worried about my low profile cooler not being enough!

[@connors3356]

also, I’m running it on an a520 gigabyte mini itx motherboard

[@PCTechHustle]

Yeah that noctua even being a low pro cooler still will clearly outperform the wraith

[@g1rv4n4]

This is one of the worst stock coolers. i idle at 60c and when i run rainbow 6 i get over 90c. just ordered a new 120mm water cooler from cooler master so hopefully that will do the trick. anyway nice vid man 👍🏼.

[@PCTechHustle]

Nice! I’m sure you will be just fine once you get that cooler installed

[@boosteddaily1294]

Idle at 34? What? lol. Change your power settings down to eco and away from performance. Stock cooler is good.

[@shubhamnath9883]

Very happy to find this really well explained and guided video on stock vs custom cooler for CPU, Please share the link for that cooler, Thank you for posting this :)

[@PCTechHustle]

The link to the cooler is in the description parts list. Thanks for watching!

[@LegionGamingTV]

You couldve undervolted the cpu and got similar results, or set the cpu fan curve to max. You can barley hear those little coolers at max and it wouldve been a free fix. Worked for me.

[@PCTechHustle]

True but some people aren’t quite that savvy. Point being here is you shouldn’t have to worry about it at all if the CPU ships with the cooler.

[@josephanthony1277]

Just ordered this cooler. New build, 5600x was 99 degrees on Bannerlord with stock cooler.

[@PCTechHustle]

Toasty!

[@didipunk007]

Just realized I had the same problem! just ordered some artic thermal paste to fix the issue. Should have directly installed my hyper 212 evo instead of foolishly trusting the stock option.

[@PCTechHustle]

Awesome! Glad you will be fixing your issue!

[@draconas109]

I hit 95 just transcoding a 3 minute video on the stock cooler, you're more or less convincing me to grab this cooler

[@PCTechHustle]

You won’t be disappointed if you do 😉

[@Faith.in.His.Grace.]

jump 3 yrs later and there has been a lot of ryzen 5 3600 cpu's going bad. The wraith stealth cooler is killing these chips, in my opinion.

[@Gamerzhut]

So from 98 degrees stock it lowered to 78 degrees with the Hypher 212 Evo , amazing !

[@PCTechHustle]

Heck yes! I big time positive change!

[@david-xp3rs]

I just bought a hyper 212 black edition because I was experiencing 90+ temps while playing cpu heavy games. I will install it now and pray that it works

[@PCTechHustle]

You will be fine after you get it on there! 😉

[@atf56]

How's it fixed?

[@david-xp3rs]

@@atf56 My idle temps stayed about the same but my max temps went from 90C+ to 65-78C

[@LazyMinecraftLP]

Im going to buy this one. I got the stock cooler and in idle round about 65 -75 degrees.. the hyper 212 evo costs about 36€ in Germany. I really hope this helps me out! Thanks in advance!

[@PCTechHustle]

You won’t be disappointed! Thanks for watching!

[@LazyMinecraftLP]

@@PCTechHustle subscribed and liked the video! Guys like you really save lives 😬

[@PCTechHustle]

Awesome! Thanks so much!

[@valenesco45]

Keep us updated bro I'm in the exact situation of yours right now haha. Italian summer is devastating for my cpu. I should buy a cooler for my armpits as well...

[@LazyMinecraftLP]

@@valenesco45 took the stock cooler out. Ripped cpu out. Then got thermalpaste on the pins. Great start 😂 nvm. Took some alcohol and cleaned the cpu. Applied everything on the board and I was shocked. Same temperature! I got angry and nervous and left afk. Then around 45 minutes later I checked again and temperature in idle went from 65-70 to 45-54 !!! I bought the evo v2. The backplate wasn’t fitting very well on my asus tuf gaming b550 plus wifi. But I managed to put him in my board. Still not sitting good on the board. I need to check again why. But! Temperature really dropped as said above! I can give a go for this cooler. But as soon as I get my new graphic card (hopefully next year) I will buy an aio cooling system. Hope this helped!

[@jamesm568]

I have no complaints with the Hyper 212 has it been running an old AMD Athlon at 5GHz for 10 years now. I also never had an overheating problem with a stock Ryzen cooler either.

[@PCTechHustle]

Heck yeah! The h212 is an amazing cooler for the price!

[@xRegyy]

At stock the cpu boosts itself to about 3.9-4.1ghz, at 3.6ghz stock locked it would run around 70-80 degrees, thats most likely why its running insanely hot

[@PCTechHustle]

Actually nothing is locked in here. This was the default behavior / temperatures right out of the box / new build

[@xRegyy]

@@PCTechHustle i meant if you locked the ghz to 3.6 it would run about 70-80 degrees, at stock it boosts itselfs

[@PCTechHustle]

Oh gotcha. Yes you are right!

[@majo3796]

I got 212 black edition with 3600 and cpu temp is avg 40-45 idle and between 60-70 while heavy gaming, how are people getting 30 celcius while idle?

[@PCTechHustle]

What motherboard are you running?

[@sjsjjdnjisjwjeuudn]

thank you for your video. It's really awesome cooler. I'm astonished how the amd could did such bad stock cooler

[@PCTechHustle]

Thanks for watching!

[@kelpforest0068]

I'm so happy I saw this video! My ryzen is on its way and a friend told me not to get a cooler, that the stock is enough. My biggest fear is overheating.

[@PCTechHustle]

Yeah the 3600s really should not come with a cooler. They simply don’t cut it!

[@conorf8091]

Don’t worry if it does overheat. I’ve had it happen 3/4 times before I replaced the stock cooler, thought the cpu / motherboard was dodgy turns out stock Cooler was hitting 90c and consuming all the thermal paste... had to put new paste on every week... new cooler on, runs at 4.2ghz max 71c no overheating 👍 brilliant cpu but the stock cooler really doesn’t work

[@kelpforest0068]

@@conorf8091 thx. I've already ordered the cooler and because of that I have to wait on my graphic card, I will install the cooler right away with the cpu when the graphic card arrive (will probably take some time)

[@mutasimrahman6833]

Do you think it was really the wraith stealth cooler, or do you think that maybe the mobo was giving really high voltages?

[@PCTechHustle]

Well that effectively is indeed the problem. Motherboard manufacturers and AMD requesting too much voltage as a default which results in a ton of unnecessary heat. I was able to get temps under control with under-volting however that shouldn’t be looked as a solution in my opinion. Also if the client were to ever lose those settings from bios in the future they would have the problem all over again. Quite simply AMD should just not include the wraith stealth with the 3600. I’d imagine someone who knows little about this problem could end up RMAing their CPU thinking the problem is there.

[@mutasimrahman6833]

@@PCTechHustle Yeah they really shouldn't. I remeber when the Ryzen 5 1600 came with the Wraith prism.

[@PCTechHustle]

@@mutasimrahman6833 Exactly. The only stock cooler that comes with a Ryzen 5 series worth using is the Spire that comes with the 3600x, at that point I honestly would rather spend the money on a Hyper 212 than chance it on stock cooling, even if "slightly better".

[@thomasrayner5301]

They should probably make a slightly different package where it is slightly cheaper and it doesn't come with a cooler

[@tmacloco6457]

PC Tech Hustle i got the 3600 w the stock cooler, should i switch?

[@ryanpatrick2834]

Btw autocorrect messed up that sentence sorry for the mistakes

[@FalconWing1813]

Also can check the bios settings amd cool and quite might be holding the fan rpm from getting fast enough to cool properly

[@PCTechHustle]

No bios things affecting temps. The fan was running max RPM trying to keep up.

[@FalconWing1813]

@@PCTechHustle WOW , then AMD needs to send these chips with a better heat sink / fan to keep up. lol

[@PCTechHustle]

Indeed.

[@matthewmcmurtry83]

I ran the same AIDA64 stability test on my Ryzen 3600 with stock cooler and after 10 minutes the highest temp it averaged at was 88C with a couple of quick spikes to 90C and the clock speed stayed above 4000 Mhz. My average idle temp is between 27C and 35C so hopefully this means it's safe for me to continue using the stock cooler as long as I don't attempt any over clocking.

[@PCTechHustle]

Sounds like you are safe! You might though have some performance left on the table if you get a cooler like I did her to allow the chip to boost higher and more frequently without overclocking. Just a tip and something to think on

[@matthewmcmurtry83]

@@PCTechHustle Thanks for the reply. I will probably buy a 240mm AIO when I get tax return here soon.

[@Magnulus76]

@@PCTechHustle dialing back PPT would allow greater single thread boost performance in this case.

[@2011jaydog]

gonna replace my wraith prizm rgb cooler with a vetroo v5 and gonna strap cooler master halo gfans to it...hoping ill get better temps..great vid!!

[@PCTechHustle]

You absolutely will!

[@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking]

Great video. I love your style - nice and calm, no extra info. Maybe you (or anyone here) can help me with some insight... I want a very very quiet pc. I've built them for years, but I'm really dismayed. I had crazy heat problems with the R5 3600 + Gigabyte Vision D. And the cpu constantly turbo' boosts itself inappropriately. First, stock cooler has a persistent whine at all speeds. (Silent case fans = really stands out.) I found out that's typical, no defect. So I realize I need another cooler. But this turbo boosting at idle is driving me nuts! Heat spikes when it does this. Win 10, no programs open...turbo up, turbo down, turbo up, turbo down...Start Edge browser (or most any program) ...BRRRRRRRFFFFF! Fans go wild as it turbos. Then they clock down. :( I assumed heat was the problem (from inefficient cooling.) Tried to remedy in several ways: 1) Got new case. Threw out BeQuiet Pure Base 600 (heat trap.) Moved to Phantek Pro M (Glass.) Added noctua case fans. No dice. 2) Got a water cooler. (Cooler Master MasterLiquid LC240E RGB.) No dice! To my dismay - it didn't cool it any better than the stock cooler. I found out when I started up Prime 95 - and went FULL PANIK - as it instantly went to 95 degrees (just like your video!) On water! (Returned it eventually.) 3) Got a 2nd Ryzen 3600 to test - thinking it was a bad CPU. No difference. Water, or stock air. So I'm back on stock air. 4) Disabled turbo in BIOS. I no longer have the constant, inappropriate turbo boost and annoying fan up, fan down... But now I have no turbo! Just what is going on? :( I've tried everything suggested on forums, short of reducing cpu voltage. I have the Ryzen 5 power profile...it still turbo's itself and computer sounds like an airplane if I enable it. Is there a reason the Ryzen 5 3600 does this?

[@PCTechHustle]

Honestly your best bet sounds like just finding the correct voltage to support the boosted clock speeds (you can probably go a notch or so higher) and hard set everything so it’s not ramping up / down. Then go into your fan profiles in the bios and only trigger the fans to ramp with temperature not load or boost.

[@DeXusV1]

air coolers benefit from room temperature while AIO benefit little from it

[@rickss69]

Most here don't need a better cooler. Get your voltages in check and you are good to go. I had a Noctua NH-D15 initially on a 3700X @ 3900ghz before I realized what the real culprit was. I now run the factory Prism cooler and it does a great job without the bulk/clutter of a behemoth cooler like the Noctua. In most cases these aftermarket coolers are just a bandaide compensating for an unaddressed problem.

[@PCTechHustle]

The problem here is stock hardware should not = overheating. So either motherboard manufacturers need to chill on the power deliver or disable certain functions by default. Most average consumers don’t know how to tune things in bios to address the problem.

[@bixdugan8300]

Been having this same issue, I've reapplied thermal paste maybe 4 times now and not seen much improvement. I have a hyper 212 kicking around I was hoping to just run with the stock cooler for a bit just for the ease of instalation but I guess that suckers gotta be replaced.

[@PCTechHustle]

Yeah throw that h212 on there and enjoy the brisk gaming performance!

[@Gyhlen]

I don't know if it have been said already. But with Ryzen and HWInfo64 Tdie and CPU Die (Average) is not the same thing. CPU Die is the current temp, Tdie is what AMD have implemented to smooth out any annoying fan ramp-up/down during operation. :)

[@PCTechHustle]

Thanks for then info! I did also measure temp with Ryzen Master and Aida64, all reporting high temps as well and showing significant drops when the cooler was replaced.

[@R3d3y3s69]

i recently installed 3600 with stock cooler..same issues..temp spike to 80+ during playing ac..whats weird is only one core has the temp spiking 😅

[@LtCatscratch]

Keep in mind, having multiple monitoring tools will keep the cpu on high voltage and boost. The best tool for idle monitoring is Cpu-z, the less intrusive one. Also ryzen master can report sleeping core speeds too. Hwinfo and other tools will keep the cpu cores awake and boost all the time, thus higher idle temps.

[@PCTechHustle]

Yea but no way at all would cause overheating. Those are just verification tools.

[@eclipse369.]

Do ppl still use coretemp?

[@orion1983uk]

Interesting video and thanks for making this. I have a Ryzen 5 2600 using the stock cooler in my own rig coupled to an RX580. Under stress test (where it reached approx 3.7GHz boost), it never went above 72C. Similar to you, I built a PC for someone earlier this year using the Ryzen 5 3600. Under stress test (where is reached approx. 3.9GHz boost) it shot up to 80C+ in moments and eventually reached 95C. The only way I could keep it in check was to use the AMD software to stop it boosting (at which point it never went above 75C). Its a poor show from Team Red in this regard.

[@PCTechHustle]

A yeah the 2600 was the last chip in my opinion that could run cool enough on the wraith stealth cooler. 3600, no way

[@sirelee5169]

Did you use Ryzen Master?

[@orion1983uk]

@@sirelee5169 yes it was the Ryzen Master software. I basically had to use that to stop the Ryzen 5 3600 from boosting sonitnwouldnt reach 95C and thermal throttle on the stock cooler.

[@aleckermit]

With a Hyper 212 Black I reach 76* during stress tests on my R5 3600.

[@PCTechHustle]

That is okay!

[@XN44x]

All 3000 series cards come with turbo boost already on thats why the temps are so high. To lower your temps by up to 20°C you need to lower the frequency to 40.00 and the processor voltage in the bios by either 0.0500 or 0.02500. This helped me. Sorry so late people should know how to do this

[@PCTechHustle]

I did experiment with that but imagine you aren’t comfortable or have the knowledge of doing so. Not something everybody would be doing. Honestly AMD should have considered this and at least sent the cooler for the 3600x with the non-x variant.

[@XN44x]

@@PCTechHustle i agree that they should send out more efficient coolers, as I upgraded from a r7 1700 to a r5 3600 2 days ago and saw a massive temp change i also bought the coolermaster 212 and saw a slight idle temp ranging from 5-10°C. However playing at a high temperature 24/7 shortens the lifespan of a processor so you have to 'underVolt' it as the default frequency is set to its turbo clock at 4.2Ghz. Now my idle temps are 30-35° and under 75% load it hits 55° but AMD should have addressed this issue and gave instructions on how to fix this 👍

[@Magnulus76]

You're better off lowering PPT. Ryzen processors have artificial intelligence inside and they respond better to lowering PPT. Lowering voltage can cause significant performance losses due to clock stretching, which cannot be detected using standard hardware monitoring software.

[@MarioMarioD80]

was just looking for an aftermarket cooler and did not hear about this issue before ^^ I replaced my R5 1600 with the R5 3600 2 years ago and just used the wraith stealth at the time (to upgrade later) but completely forgot about it. system is msi B350 tomahawk, 2x8 GB corsair 2400 CL14, Radeon RX 580 red devil sitting in a corsair carbide 100r which has rather poor front intake. idle temps are around 32-25 °C and max at about 75 °C with cpu-z stresstest running (multiplier going up to 39). wasn't sure which cooler is am4 compatible as cooler master lists the 212 to need an "AM4 upgrade kit" - the bracket+standoffs you used.

[@PCTechHustle]

You should be able to use the hyper 212 without any issue. I don’t think the older variations of the cooler is even sold anywhere that isn’t compatible with AM4. AM4 has been around 5ish years now.

[@joser9237]

The Wraith Stealth isn't supposed to be with the R5 Zen2 CPUs. I've seen them for sale with the Wraith Spire but the Stealth is for the R3 and R5 1600AF. My 1600AF goes up to 78C with the Wraith Stealth.

[@PCTechHustle]

The stealth ships with the latest gen R3s and R5 3600 only. Funny then knew it ran hot though because the Ryzen 5 3600x actually comes with the spire cooler.

[@joser9237]

Yes quite. I actually remember being disappointed that my Ryzen 5 1600AF came with a stealth but I could've sworn that the 2600 and 3600 came with the Spire. I checked on Amazon today and sure enough they have the stealth which is weird. I also received my Hyper 212 and my 1600AF stays at 57C under load and overclocked to 3.9GHz. I couldn't even close to those temps with the Stealth. I'm wondering if the reason the 2600 and 3600 have gotten cheaper is because they are cutting corners and adding the Stealth instead of the Spire.

[@PCTechHustle]

Nah the 2600 and 3600 have always come with the stealth. The ‘X’ variant comes with the better cooler (spire)

[@aleckermit]

Also, setting the CPU voltage to a set value instead of letting it boost to 1.4v+ when it wants to. Setting my voltage to 1.3v and clock speed to 4.3ghz saw a 5c drop in max temperature.. while increasing the performance over stock.

[@PCTechHustle]

True but you shouldn’t have to even do that on a stock system. Some people may not feel comfortable having to tweak bios settings just to make a stock clocked chip run cool. Yes it can work but I think this video show clearly the cooler simply can’t cut it with the default operations of the CPU.

[@aleckermit]

@@PCTechHustle For sure, AMD should have packed all Ryzen 3000s w/ the Wraith Spire and a one-use tube of higher quality thermal paste at minimum. I don't see the Ryzen 3600 being a good fit for a small workstation PC for example. There's a reason the cramped little government computer I work on uses an i7 6700, it's setup to work well with its stock cooler.

[@PCTechHustle]

Yeah the spire would have been perfect for this chip. Much better cooling capacity!

[@dvasdvas]

Been having the same problem recently with the random shutdowns, at least now I know the problem and how to fix it, thank you.

[@myolgiden]

I bought a Ryzen 5 3600 3 days before, but the result was exactly like this video. That's why I purchased scythe mugen 5 yesterday and now I am waiting the delivery. Really disappointed with this rubbish stock cooler. Now system runs with it 50 to 60 degrees even when the cpu idle. Cooler is a "must" for this cpu.

[@PCTechHustle]

Mustafa Yolgiden I couldn’t agree more! You will be quite happy once you get the new cooler in though!

[@myolgiden]

@@PCTechHustle Well, the new cooler is much better. Now 35 to 40 degrees are my idle temperature values. And 70 degrees if I do some stress test. Not good, but definitely better than stock cooler.

[@anthonyreynoza8535]

The stock coolers really suck. Mine was around 50 at idle and 80 to 90+ on hard loads . I switch to the 212 and I'm at 30 idle and 50 to 60 max

[@PCTechHustle]

Agreed! And glad you got yours running nice and cool!

[@emwungarand]

Any Ryzen that isn't a 3 series has given me temp issues. Shit, some of the higher 9 series chips minimum req is an AIO

[@PCTechHustle]

Seems so! Good information to know considering I am eyeballing a 3950x or Ryzen 4000 for my next personal rig bios. It was definitely shocking to me to find this out the way I did.

[@petter3995]

I bought one for the time the lian li galahead is not in stock, my ryzen 5 5600x runs very very hot (80 to 86 degrees) I also ordered a tube of arctic mx 4 for even better thermal performance.

[@PCTechHustle]

You should well held over on the h212 until you can get your hands on the AIO.

[@petter3995]

@@PCTechHustle I currently have it in my pc right now, my idles went from 60-70 to 30-40.

[@petter3995]

@@PCTechHustle From 84 degrees on battlefield to 64

[@sirlurksalot4454]

I just installed the wraith stealth and I'm running the R5 3600 with four 120mm case fans and decided to run Cinebench 23 and the temps got up to 95 degrees C in a very short time so I ordered the Hyper 212 Evo and I'm hoping it will be good. I will say that I have another pc using the Wraith max and never had an issue with temps and it did great but now i want to give the Hyper 212 Evo a try and I'm hoping I won't be disappointed

[@PCTechHustle]

Nah I am sure you will see much better temps with the H212!

[@rose_dm7282]

I’m new to Pc stuff and I just built mine a couple days ago. The Ryzen 5 3600 temps keeps on going up and down without me doing anything. Do you think with this cooler will help it be a steady temp?

[@PCTechHustle]

That is typical of any Ryzen. Precision boost will add more voltage dynamically when it boosts, which will increase temps. Now if your temps are wildly swinging and causing fan surges you might want to consider go into the bios to tune the fan profile, that or consider a new cooler if the temps hold high.

[@BearuanG69]

Try undervolt ur cpu

[@hugoanderkivi]

@@BearuanG69 Got my Ryzen 5 3600x on 1,23125 Volts stable on 4,2 GHz, temperatures below 75 °C in Cinebench R20.

[@Hahah100]

My cpu runs fine with normal gaming but hits 90c when running a ps3 emulator so I’m gonna get this! Thanks for the video(:

[@PCTechHustle]

Your welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@GritForgefitness]

The real magic is when you add the second fan

[@sgoaty]

I have 2 3600 systems one runs about 15c cooler than the other under load. The hotter one runs up to around 80C under a 120 AIO when prime95ing. I swapped the CPUs from one system to the other to rule out the board but the hot CPU stays hot regardless what system its in. I'm not experiencing any stability issues but I don;t like how much hotter it runs and I don't think it would be stable under the supplied wraith stealth.

[@PCTechHustle]

oh man! The hot one would COOK under the stock cooler. This might be some form of manufacturing product quality issue... Hard to say but you aren't the first to mention having different results that I did here.

[@belkacem5600]

I've had the Ryzen 5 3600 and its stock cooler for well over a year now, I have never experienced any over the top temperatures or thermal shutdowns while gaming or using adobe premiere, my only problem now is the noise which is a bit annoying other than that the stock cooler is very solid! although I might switch the cooler because of noise problem.

[@PCTechHustle]

Glad to hear you aren’t having problems but I bet if you were to change the coolers not only would you benefit from reduced noise you would also pick up some free performance! Check out this video where I tested several budget coolers against the 5950x and the benefits I got from them! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJDJho2GiMSeqtE

[@ramonmm5]

hey man! great vid. I'm about to replace my stealth wraith for a Hyper 212 black. Do you know if I can leave the same bracket and just screw the 212 in? or do I need to replace the bracket? keep up the great work!

[@PCTechHustle]

Thanks! The 212 will come with all you need to mount it. Though I would recommend hanging on to all the stock mounting hardware.

[@ajpewding4058]

thanks just got this cpu and I remember 1st gen ryzen with stock coolers being ok with overclocks. 3rd gen really suprised me

[@PCTechHustle]

Same! This is why I honestly overlooked it. I’ve dealt a lot with 1st and 2nd gen and since it shipped with a cooler I really didn’t give much attention to temperatures. Lesson learned for me! Always check it! Even if there is a level of expectation to have.

[@kingkosher6231]

the RGB Black Edition is the same cooler with a much better aesthetic and addressable RGB

[@PCTechHustle]

That cooler is sexy indeed!

[@kingkosher6231]

@@PCTechHustle to me its worth the extra couple of bucks and I currently love mine in my personal rig and i took my old 212 Evo and put it in a build for a buddy and slapped a 120mm blue led fan on it, looks great

[@JeffWaynee]

IMO they should include the spire for anything above a 1600.

[@PCTechHustle]

Agreed!

[@hardikkumar4964]

facing similar issue with my new 3600. thought it might be something to do with the stock thermal paste . changed it, but no improvement .☹️

[@PCTechHustle]

Time for a new cooler!

[@blackwidow82]

The amd stock cooler can be efficient only during fall and winter cold days 🥶 !

[@PCTechHustle]

Hah! Right?

[@valenesco45]

I think you're right dude, it's summer time and I'm starting to have heat issues with that cpu, reaching 85+/90 celsius I never seen that, its crazy (coming from an intel user)

[@rayne1935]

hey man, about 2 months ago i built myself a pc with the ryzen 5 3600 as well on the msi b450 tomahawk max and used the stock cooler. when i play rainbow six siege, my temps are usually at 65-72° degrees, however when the map loads they sometimes spike up to 80-85. i haven’t overclocked or anything like that, using the stock thermal paste. do you think this is normal?

[@PCTechHustle]

65-72 ain’t bad but I’d say anything in the 80s is a bit concerning. These chips just run hotter than their previous generations. The stock cooler in my opinion isn’t adequate enough.

[@_JavierOrtiz_]

When you load a game is normal

[@PoiseMuncher]

Have to upgrade my default cooler for 3600 as well!!!

[@radudamian4574]

Hello. What tips do you suggest for removing the wraith spire cooler safely without taking the cpu out of the socket? Also, what do I have to do so my backplate doesn't fall off in this process?

[@PCTechHustle]

Gently twist and pry up. You can tape the back plate to the back of the motherboard if you are afraid of it falling.

[@bobmarly1489]

My ryzen 5 3600 still runs hot with a cooler master evo 212. I used around the same amount of thermal paste you did. It runs around 80c under a heavy load. I used artic silver, its running 3.6ghz, at 1.2 volts.

[@PCTechHustle]

What’s its idle and gaming temps? 80c on a synthetic stress test is not bad though.

[@bobmarly1489]

@@PCTechHustle idle is around 55 to 68

[@PCTechHustle]

Yeah that’s not good at all. Your mounting pressure might be off. Try a remount.

[@bobmarly1489]

@@PCTechHustle okay how tight should it be?

[@PCTechHustle]

Until the screws don’t spin anymore. Don’t hammer on it but quite tight.

[@TuffMcAwesome]

The wraith spire and wraith prism should be pretty good out of the box. In my experience though if you are using a wraith stealth you may have to disable AMD cool and quiet in the Bios

[@PCTechHustle]

Cool and quiet by design is supposed to keep things COOL. The function specifically reduces clock speeds and voltage while under low CPU utilization. Disabling it will cause MORE heat. However Where people like disable it is if they have a high heat capacity cooler and want to stabilize clock speeds from fluctuating due to this feature. The likely issue that may be occurring here is the motherboard is supplying too much power for the stock cooler thus my temperature issues. With that said though, I’ll stand my ground by saying AMD really should not ship the 3600s with stock coolers because there is a high chance someone will also pair that CPU with a high end motherboard and run into what I am seeing here.

[@lepesteper]

I have a very similar build and got the same problem. Stock fan it's not enough.

[@Magnulus76]

I turned on Eco Mode. I also have the older stock copper bottom downdraft cooler with Artic MX4 paste. Max temps get to 60-65 degrees during gaming, and 75 running Cinebench. If you aren't overclocking or doing heavy workloads (and most games just don't count), downdraft coolers will work just fine, even with stock configuration. AMD pulled out the stops to try beat Intel with the Ryzen CPU, but power efficiency isn't what it could be with Ryzen at stock. It wastes alot of heat to hit high multicore performance, which is not really needed in most games. That's why Eco Mode is good to use in these scenarios. It's free on Ryzen motherboards, often with a BIOS update, you can either enable it as an option or dial in custom PPT, TDC, and EDC settings.

[@TheLempod]

How to turn on eco mode?

[@loganbates2657]

I had almost same problem my stock cooler for ryzen 3600 had it idling around 45c 52c using cinnabench it would sometimes peak at 92c installed the evo 212 be and just between 39c 41c and has not went above 71c. I feel it idles kinda hot still for ambient room temps being 80 to 88 f but very impressed. I also went into windows power settings and turned down max cpu usage from 100 pct or 99 pct

[@PCTechHustle]

Good stuff!

[@12345sdot]

Turn on your xmp profile bro. I have the 212 turbo with push pull. Works great

[@PCTechHustle]

I enabled it after I got the heat issue resolved. Though, XMP has nothing to do with CPU heat / poor cooler performance.

[@Noooo23523]

@@PCTechHustle the ram being set at maximum also puts your cpu ram controller to heat up if you overclock it from 0.9 to 1.1 to use 3600 ram instead of 3200 and 3400

[@mdyeasinnurrahman2875]

Ryzen uses a copper made circle in many stock cooler before,but in Ryzen 5 3600 they didn't give the copper made circle there.If I put a copper made circle there, does it work?

[@PCTechHustle]

You are talking about the “spire” cooler instead of the stealth as seen here. Thst cooler does a much better job and has typically only come with 1st gen and “x” series CPUs

[@nathanp.6102]

I just ordered all my parts but didn't get any extra cpu cooling My friends are telling me I need water cooling, but would this be better? Cpu is ryzen 5 3600 and GPU is 2060

[@PCTechHustle]

You don’t need water cooling if you don’t want to go that route. If you want some better cooling that won’t break the bank the Hyper 212 is a good option!

[@LionMob]

Scythe Mugen 5 is a good option too, and if you have the money Noctua coolers are better than water coolers

[@b_wiz]

not sure if i got lucky with my CPU or if i have really good airflow, but i also have the 3600 with the stock cooler and my idle temps are about 40 degrees C. When playing AAA titles like GTA, Warzone, Horizon zero dawn. My CPU usually stays around 60-65 with the occasional spike to 70. Everything in BIOS is set to default auto OC and i have ryzen balanced power plan. 3 intake fans and 1 exhaust fan

[@PCTechHustle]

That’s good! I guess maybe I did get a stroke of bad luck. Glad yours is of no problem. I might revisit this just to see if another 3600 will produce the same problems.

[@quixxer]

Exact same problem im having. Stock settings, all new stuff and idle at 60c and 15 minutes into a game computer shuts down. I ordered a liquid cpu cooler

[@PCTechHustle]

You should have no issues with the new cooler!

[@quixxer]

@@PCTechHustle i got a a Deep Cool Liquid cooler. Its dropped the idle temp abot 15 to 20c