Ryzen 5 3600 vs. Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 23 Game Benchmark @ 1080p & 1440p

[@panzerschreckpete]

It's this engagement with the direct interests and needs of your audience that makes you one of my go to tech channels. Not much of a gamer myself, but I glean a lot of information that is of use to me anyway.

[@cyathoris7530]

Amen

[@robertgowdey]

​@@alfa-psi Loser.

[@maxsmith111]

you should give him all your money

[@canderson7776]

The performance uplift going from a Ryzen 5 1600 to 5800X3D is unbelievable. Thanks AMD for valuating the upgrade path.

[@beasz1974]

AMD

[@ZyronZA]

A 5 CPU generation jump and comparing a 5 series with a 7 series. Are you seriously surprised by the performance uplift?

[@Mr_Mellowz]

@@ZyronZA I think the real surprise here is that it all works on the same motherboard. Saving you that 100-150 dollar cost, which is unheard of for Intel.

[@TechTusiast]

Actually it would be - while not useful and way too much work to be worth it - cool to see the difference between say 3800X vs 5800X3D compared to Intel i5-2600K vs 7700K - the difference between single generation of AMD compared to what... four? generations of Intel CPU and motherboard upgrades during stagnation. So 8c/16thread to 8c/16 thread and 4c/8 thread to 4c/8 thread. EDIT: Let's see: 2000-series, 3000-series, 4000-series, but I don't recall Intel 5000-series, 6000-series and 7000 series. Have I lost a couple of years from my braincells, or did Intel skip 5000-series?

[@ZyronZA]

@@Mr_Mellowz Fair enough. That makes sense.

[@ernestuz]

AM4 is the best thing that happened to PC enthusiasts in 20 years. The only other platform I can remember that was similar to this was Socket 7/ Super 7

[@andersjjensen]

Aye.. that's where the time-line broke. I hope AMD can eventually force Intel into platform collaboration again. And that we can have multiple chip-set vendors who're CPU vendor agnostic. Having VIA Technologies back in the ring with super affordable chipsets for the budget crowd would be nothing short of epic. And being able to pick and chose between CPU vendors throughout an entire RAM generation on the same board would be a dream.

[@flipdry]

It's funny you mention socket 7, I found an old Asus super socket 7 board in a pile of junk at my work, knowing that vintage PC enthusiasts love that platform I sold the motherboard/cpu on eBay for $300 and used that money for a Ryzen 5 3600 when it launched to replace my ryzen 5 1600.

[@Protector1rk]

AM2+ and 775.

[@lucasmancini2]

This comment made me relieved 😅 I am not the only old one here 👴🏻

[@silentKeys20]

My R5 3600 on a AB350 on its last dying bed: "nah man, don't do this".

[@zeitgeistx5239]

Meh, that’s just your brain on FOMO.

[@Jacketz123]

Hahaha, that’s where I’m at now. My motherboard’s BIOS supports this CPU and I might get it!

[@FluufyPvPTM]

@@Jacketz123you should upgrade to b550 because the are better suited for these cpu

[@Jacketz123]

@@FluufyPvPTM I ended up buying it with my current motherboard and honestly I'm very happy with it! My system is ITX so I didn't really want to spend the money on a new B550 board, haven't noticed any issues so far. It'll do me until the PC market calms down again and starts releasing things at a decent price. If I ever decide to build a new PC again or have the money to lmao

[@TheRanscat]

​@@FluufyPvPTMfree is hard to beat

[@Alirezarz62]

You guys know what I want! Thank you so much for this actually today I was going to upgrade to a 5800x3D from 3600

[@Ramattra-ow]

They are hacker🌚

[@christophermurphy5962]

same lol thats why i am here

[@mattwong7191]

My thanks as well. I have a 3600x and was convinced the 5800x3d was going to be a massive upgrade. Turns out my old cpu will probably be just fine for a while.

[@mab3667]

The reason why Im watching this vid also lol, and I would like to know the performance difference on this cpu at 1440p, it looks oike I will just purchase the monitor first then later upgrade the cpu

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

Spot-on with that analysis of why this was such a heavily-requested comparison, Steve, at least in my case. Being able to drop this chip into my existing motherboard for the same price as a CPU+motherboard upgrade, and getting essentially identical performance in gaming as Intel's best, makes the 5800X3D very appealing, especially when DDR5 RAM is still quite pricey, despite large improvements.

[@razoo911]

in acc and riftbraker idk why but 5800x3d its a lot faster than 12900k, im curious to see some old games on 5800x3d

[@MauDib]

@@razoo911 Wendell from Level 1 Techs did a good video on 5800x3D with some older games. Had similarly impressive gains in the titles he tested.

[@rafoh]

I’m in the same boat. I think I’m going to pass for now, because my GPU isn’t quite beefy enough to realize the upside of the upgrade, but it’s good to know could meaningfully boost my machine with CPU/GPU only and not a full build.

[@SPIRIT-117]

The 5800X3D in many cases is significantly better than intels best

[@digitaltactics9234]

Second line might have all been said in the video not, sure why it's impressive to repeat things said in the video in the comments. 🤣 First line is spot on chap. 👍Seconded line not so much but you do you happy gaming.

[@vildemare]

Got my 3600 over two years ago, with intention to upgrade later on. At first I was thinking about keeping the CPU always at budget level, but when the 5800X3D came out I decided to go for it. No regrets in 1440p gaming with RX 6800XT.

[@sabrevanson4412]

agreed. I upgraded from a 3600X to a 5800X3D and a 2080 for a 6900XT. Loving my PC now.

[@albertko1]

are you guys running it on an X570 motherboard?

[@eklipz330]

Went from a 3600 to 5800x3d and I feel my 3080 can finally stretch it's legs

[@joshrhdsupra]

I just got a 5800x3d and 6900xt and love the combo

[@barrycooper8640]

I love mine too with a 3070. Intel have lost me now until they stop throwing power into their parts. Electricity is expensive these days.

[@sjith28]

I upgraded from a 3600 to 5800X3D and I personally do not have regrets. I used to get significant stutters and frame-time spikes on 3600 especially while playing Open world games. It has been a lot smoother since I upgraded.

[@theplayerofus319]

Yeah i got that upgrade too. Went from 60-70 fps in battlefield 2042 to 120-130 and thats on 1440p!

[@eklipz330]

Dude the increase in performance was almost as big as going from a 5700xt to a 3080 for me.

[@budgetking2591]

where you using fast ram on your 3600? or just regular 3200cl16?

[@theplayerofus319]

@@budgetking2591 why would someone who buys a 3600 waste money on high end ddr4 modules for a couple of percantage more Performance

[@SCHTRAM]

I cant decide between 5800x3d and 5900x. The thing is I rarely game without having a twitch stream on at the same time or some youtube and Ive noticed that does favour more cores/threads (my 3800x absolutely drops FPS due to twitch viewing).

[@Tehzii]

This CPU comparison is great. The inclusion of a mid vs high tier graphics was spot on. Awesome work. I know it is a year later but more like this please!

[@HrafnRaff]

I love to see these generational gains on performance, but I'm still happy with my 3600. I don't play competitive games though, and I play at 1440p with a mid-range gpu.

[@RobBCactive]

5600x/6700xt@1440p no plans to upgrade but the video was still interesting.

[@ej1025]

Same here, probably going to stick with my 3600+ 3070 combo.

[@suchinpati5601]

@@ej1025 I had the same combo, initially had paired the 3600 with 1660s but recently upgraded to rtx 3070 and saw bottlenecks frequently especially because i game at 1080p. Initially i had intention of getting a new 1440p monitor and get rid of the bottleneck. But i decided to stay with 1080p and upgraded to r7 5700x and boy O' boy saw gains in fps in the range of 20-30fps on average at 1080p ! So my logic is if you don't have the best of the GPUs like Rtx 3080/Radeon6800 and beyond , the difference between a normal 3rd gen cpu and 5800x3d isn't much. I might be wrong, but this is purely by my own logic :)

[@rockjianrock]

@@ej1025 hello fellow midrange 3600 + 3070 nerds, how are you doing today

[@rocko107me8]

Same boat pretty much for me. On a 3600X that was on-sale years ago. Paired with 3080Ti(reference nvidia scored at best buy) and only game at 4K so there isn't much there for me for any new CPU today. Not until the game engines utilize the cores better. Glad to see AMD creating this type of option though. It really does fill a gap for a lot of gamers, and at the same time gives AMD their first commercial marketing of the tech.

[@tonkatoytruck]

I had a bad itch to upgrade my AM4 platform several years ago. I was running a R7 2700x and a RX 580. I was going to get a new gpu but at the time, gpu mining has made video card prices insane. So, to scratch my itch, I upgraded to the 5600X instead. As you pointed out, I did not see a huge performance uplift with the RX580 but I bought a RX 6800 recently and the combination has really put a smile on my face. Like many others, I waited a long time to upgrade my gpu and the 5600X was a good compromise until a gpu upgrade was cost effective. Now, with the 5800X3D as an option, I still have an upgrade path left on the AM4 platform that makes financial sense. Should extend my use for another 4 to 5 years. Thanks for all the hard work putting together this data. It is appreciated more than you know.

[@margenov]

It's crazy to see how much CPU performance in gaming we have gained in just 3 years' time

[@valuehunter5544]

zen 2 to zen 3 was a pretty substantial jump, so much so that zen 4 gains look middling now

[@GewelReal]

People still running Zen/Zen+ see 100%+ gains!

[@zxbc1]

You mean how little. In 3 years time we gained 50% performance at double the price... that's pathetic.

[@mroutcast8515]

More like cache performance. R7 5800X3D pretty much the same core performance and R5 5600 and about 10% slower than R9 5950X, but it's all about tripling the L3 cache that gives such gains in games.

[@GewelReal]

@@zxbc1 double the price? what? price stayed more or less the same Unless you loved being shafted by Intel, 3% improvement for the same price 🤡

[@kennadod2080]

I upgraded from a 3600 and a vega64 card to the 5800X3D and a 6750XT . Massive jump in framerates and should now keep me ticking over for a few more years to come. Excellent CPU and GPU

[@MrJavi94]

I have this combo except for the non 3d cpu. Playing at 1440p and can tell its a wonderful upgrade from a 2060 laptop.

[@kennadod2080]

@@MrJavi94 Yes , it's a nice jump isn't it . Happy days

[@HAFBeast91]

I have the 3700 and a 3080 and I am going to keep my processor until the next platform. It is a lot for a new processor.

[@BeardyBaldyBob]

Ooh, your old system is what I currently have, would you say it is worth the upgrade? As in is it a very noticeable improvement across the board?

[@apertaplays]

and when they release another one, people like you will buy because of a few fps that you won´t even notice. keep buying, businessmens love people like you, that buy things that you don´t actually need.

[@soulshinobi]

Exactly the type of upgrade path I was considering, and he gets the reasoning right at the end. Hopefully the price will come down a little bit with the release of the AM5 platform, and I expect a 5800X3D to carry me for a long time.

[@lexwaldez]

I'm in same boat. I'd like to upgrade from 3600 right now. Maybe grab a mid-range 7000 series Radeon this spring. I'd be good for 2-3 years I should think.

[@JamieReynolds89]

@@lexwaldez did you upgrade?

[@CmndaPnda]

I'm here still waiting for 5800x3d to come down from $500+ AUD... I think I'll be sticking with my 3600 and just go for a whole new combo once AM5 is close to becoming what AM4 is now.

[@fVNzO]

I can't wait to see these kinds of CPU setups but with next gen GPU's. I think there's gonna be a lot of people (me included) on AM4 that did not bother getting any GPU upgrade and would like to see how various AM4 CPU's will perform with a mid to high end next gen GPU (that should hopefully be much faster than a 6900XT/3090).

[@wayland7150]

People holding off from a GPU upgrade whilst the prices were mental would gain a significant FPS upgrade by moving from 3600 to 5600. Now we're spoiled for choice. Get the 5800X3D now and then the GPU in September.

[@richardbeckenbaugh1805]

It’s crazy how much GPU performance has increased that consumers have been unable to buy. There is a pent up demand for reasonably priced GPUs for gaming. The problem is that there are no reasonably priced GPUs worth gaming on.

[@phillipgottschewski-meyer8505]

furthermore, many of the games are nowadays limited by the GPU in 4k, getting a next gen graphics card could get even more out of the CPU, couldn't it?

[@fVNzO]

@@phillipgottschewski-meyer8505 put your game in 720p and you'll have your max frame rate assuming it's not woefully optimized (won't for for cs).

[@whitegoodman7465]

@@wayland7150 People think they gonna buy a gpu at msrp at release..lol it will be months after release this year before most people can get their hands on it, still above msrp.

[@chuuni6924]

For CPU comparisons like these, I feel it would be very helpful to add more simulation-based titles. Just to name a few examples, stuff like Dwarf Fortress, Factorio, Oxygen Not Included, Crusader Kings, Civilization, &c&c. I realize that it may be a lot of work to bring these games into a state where they really start chugging, but it's almost always possible, and I'm sure there are community members that can provide savegames and stuff. I have a friend with a R9 3900X, and recently watched his Crusader Kings 3 game chug along at what looked like 20 FPS just because that's how those kinds of games always tend to end up.

[@sharathvasudev]

Oni runs great even on my i5 3470 peacefully with ddr3 ram even after 2000 cycles.

[@VShuricK]

@@sharathvasudev just look at Francis Jones last ONI walkthrough - even on YT fps drop are visible. Its not about cycles, its more about critters, temp math, pipe density and so on.

[@sharathvasudev]

@@VShuricK oh ya I do what the first adopters of the game used to do. sweep entire map. this increases performance

[@tubz]

Yeah that's a good consideration. I don't really play FPS or AAA games, mostly 4x strategy and turn based games. So 5800x3d makes a lot more sense for the kinds of games I play

[@mryellow6918]

​@@tubz if you've ever played hoi4 or stellaris. It's amazing the late game slowdown takes so much longer to get to.

[@Liamv4696]

This was the exact upgrade I made a couple of weeks ago. Yes the 5800X3D CPU is much more then the 3600 originally cost me, but it's significantly cheaper than upgrading to AM5, and offered huge performance increases. Honestly amazed by this CPU. I'm running an RTX3070 for reference.

[@ThePalePatriot]

I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and 2070 Super, do you think the 5800X3D will be a big upgrade for me right now? Then wait for a GPU upgrade in 18-24 months and still use the 5800X3D?

[@guser436]

@@ThePalePatriot 5800x3D will be a pretty big upgrade - I just did the same upgrade from 3600 and games are much smoother

[@ThePalePatriot]

@@guser436 Ty, will the 5800X3D last me at least 3 years for when I maybe get a 40xx GPU?

[@chandler2819]

@RifleEyezI just made the upgrade this weekend from a 3600 to the 5800x3d. On Rome 2 I went from stutters in large scale battles to smooth as butter. FPS almost doubled. Paired with a 3070ti. Hope that helps with your decision.

[@waldowaldo1980]

Liam glaub's du es macht Sinn...von 3600xt auf 5800x3d zu upgarden...mit einer 1080ti in wqhd Spiele nur Battlefield

[@kenjibaritua9804]

He finally did it. I commented on the first 5800x 3d video that I wanted to see a comparison between these 2 CPUs.

[@bzdtemp]

I already did the 3600 -> 5800x3D upgrade and I am loving it. Not only has it been a great boost, but it was also an easy one in that there was no need to reinstall Windows and all that - a cost that is generally ignored only when you think about it you normally spend hours on installing and tweaking Windows + apps.

[@spacepioneer4070]

It also will save you money, the costly upgrade from AM4 to AM5 would be a motherboard, DDR5 RAM, CPU, CPU cooler and possibly a PSU. Generally the upgrade is $700+USD. A 5800X3D goes for $200 USD today.

[@nathanpose8607]

I'm one of those 3600 owners and you are exactly right about the thought process leading me to consider the 5800x3d.

[@EatMyShortsAU]

It will also probably be a lot cheaper in a year or 2.

[@DrRippenShitten]

a year later, it's a lot cheaper now and the value is INSANE. They just did a video on it too haha

[@nathanpose8607]

@@DrRippenShitten I did go get one when they slipped to $299. My RX6800 didn't gain all that much at 1440p, but my future 7900xt or 8800xt will fit in nicely.

[@DrRippenShitten]

@@nathanpose8607 I'm looking at the R5 5600 because it's like $200 AUD right now and will give me the max boost for my 5700 XT without either side bottlenecking

[@AJ-po6up]

This was great, it has always been my plan to upgrade to the last and greatest AM4 CPU, and that becomes more important with next gen where even mid tier GPUs like the 4070/7700 will tax your CPU.

[@popcorny007]

Thanks Steve, I'm "still" using the 3600 and it's giving me far more than I need lol. Also first :D

[@JRFKSERRANO]

Thank you for this! I have a 3600 with 6700x and game on 1440p. I had a itch of upgrading the CPU but with this DATA, I don't see a reason to upgrade just yet. maybe after a few years if I do more CPU extensive task, might consider to give it more life. but as of now. it seems not worth it.

[@mastersmurfify]

I plan to game mostly at 1440p - I think my plan to get a 5600/x and a new GPU seems sound - easy saving of $250 or more

[@JRFKSERRANO]

@@mastersmurfify that would work also, though difference of 5600 on 1440p is almost non existent.If i would be building a new system, i would prolly spend the extra money on faster ram or storage. though it all depends on what u play i guess, if u play a lot of FPS games then def go with 5600 should give u more fps i mean that's what i can see based on this video. otherwise, if u play single titles like me, then 3600 would be enough, still depend on use case and where u from, since prices varies, but if its all new hey! go with newer tech!

[@mastersmurfify]

@@JRFKSERRANO oh no - I am coming from a 2600 not a 3600

[@Greenalex89]

I have a similar setup but I just wonder if the 5800x3D will be available as new in a few years. Im not a friend of buying used parts. In that regard and considering the price drop to 300€, maybe upgrading within the next months might be the only option without having to replace the whole system in the future.

[@PixelShade]

Awesome overview. Some games seem like they have massive benefits (on the 6950XT at 1080p) since we are measuring FPS, but it is primarily because those games already render high framerates... looking at frametime however (what we actually perceive) it's just a matter of 0,5ms in CS:GO and (more substantially) 2.7ms in Assetto Corsa... Which still isn't MASSIVE, considering the amounts of cash you need to fork up to catch any real perceptual performance difference. Being a 6600XT owner, I am incredibly happy that I went with the 5600 instead of "future proofing" with a highly expensive part like the 5800X3D... The last 10 years I feel like GPU performance improvements has decreased substantially (with often the lack of driver support killing off old hardware prematurely), and likewise we aren't as CPU limited with the advent of low level APIs like DX12 and Vulkan.... I am having a hard time seeing my setup becoming irrelevant the coming 5 years, especially considering how well UE5 runs with TSAAU on the card. Same goes for the most demanding games today, like Cyberpunk. With FSR/DLSS RSR/NIS, Freesync/Gsync and hopefully even more enhancements techniques... like an improved FSR2.0-based "Radeon Boost". We have so many tools to prolong the relevance of hardware generations.

[@vmafarah9473]

Do you know what all are the particle effects , that nvidia and amd uses in sponsored titles to look their competitors bad.

[@MrGts92]

Out of curiosity why did you buy a 6600xt? Was during the lack of GPY availability days?

[@PixelShade]

​@@MrGts92 Personally I wanted an AMD card because of the superior Linux driver support... I am switching from Windows for good now, because I am so tired of being a part of big tech consumer exploitation (Microsoft, Google etc). But other than that AMD is extremely competitive here in northern Europe, especially in the mid-range. I bought the 6600XT at release for MSRP (460EUR with tax incl.) It was frequently in stock and for that price meanwhile the 3060Ti was going for 850EUR+ and was never in stock. So it really didn't make sense to go with nvidia at all. Even to this day, AMD still stay competetive in terms of pricing in Sweden. I sold my 6 year old GTX1070 for 300EUR, so the upgrade was only a 160EUR investment One thing I have learned from owning AMD hardware and Nvidia hardware over the years is that nvidia generally is a lot better at release, but doesn't improve much, and even degrade as new hardware generations come out. Mainly because less focus is spent on game optimizations on newer games for older architecture. AMD on the other hand usually stick to a very similar core architecture. They massively improve drivers over the first year and continues to support the cards for years to come. We can see this with the 6600XT. It has gained massive RT performance increase, as well as DX11 and OpenGL performance over the first year. I can play Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition with normal RT sticking around 65-90fps at 1440p. Doom Eternal with RT at 1080p renders at 120-170fps. So, really it's actually a very powerful card. It plays games with RT where RT makes sense, and others were it doesn't make sense (like cyberpunk) both the 3060 and 3060Ti are struggling with RT as well. :) So I really feel like that "superior RT performance" won't actually add any benefit for me.

[@eternalbeing3339]

I've been using the 5800x3d since launch and it's pretty damn good. Especially in CPU intensive games and while using dlss/fsr. The perfect balance for an rtx 3080.

[@phillipgottschewski-meyer8505]

I have the same setup and can only agree

[@waldowaldo1980]

is it worth upgrading from 3600xt to 5800x3d?...1080ti @1440p and x470 strix play Battlefield 2042

[@OddyzeusTV]

even though its hard to really track 1:1 MMORPG's but i would love if you guys keep throwing a bunch of them into the testing, as MMORPG's are mostly CPU Limited in high crowded Places. - Black Desert Online - Elder Scrolls - WoW - FFXIV and so on

[@chielzzmew]

Same, would love to see this

[@HuNtOziO]

Yep would love to see this too. I mostly play mmos and the 5800x3d for me has been mind blowing. Extremely happy I got one!

[@PSNGormond]

When I built my current system a couple of years ago with an RTX 3080 (which sucked all my budget), the Ryzen 3600 was always just meant to be a stopgap. The 5800x3D seems like a great choice now.

[@fvallo]

Get 3d asap your bottlencking 3080

[@PSNGormond]

@@fvallo I usually play games at 4k/ultra so I’m probably GPU bound most of the time. I realise that probably won’t be the case going forward when games start to use UE5 and so forth.

[@fvallo]

@@PSNGormond dlss performance, there is no way 3080 wont be able to handle it with ease, vram is your real bottleneck

[@Ayns.L14A]

yep, hit the nail on the head there Steve I'm running a vega 56 with a 2600x on a B450 Tomahawk, was going to upgrade a couple of years ago until the shortages hit and prices rocketed, now I'm pulling the trigger on a 6950xt with a 5800x3d, saving over £1100 just by waiting , no need for a new motherboard, and no way I'm gonna be an early adopter of the new AM5 platform, (let them iron out any wrinkles first,) not only that but the jump to AM5 is a whole new system, prices as they stand right now are just hideous and I think the new cpu's, graphics cards, memory,and motherboards will be hellishly expensive , Unfortunately the past year or two have proved to all of the manufacturers that no matter what, there is a lot of people out there who will pay ridiculous prices for the latest and "greatest". a thing to bear in mind when i built my current system (feb 2019) it was 2nd gen, mid range and it cost £1100 for the full system case included, for just my new CPU and GPU upgrade it's gonna be £1400 ish. The other thing to think about with the new platforms is the power draw with the rises in power prices that are coming I wonder if they will make sense???

[@wayland7150]

Your VEGA 56 has been massively CPU bottlenecked for years with that 2600x. Just try it with the 5800X3D and you will know.

[@AntonioNoack]

@@wayland7150 Nah, that depends on what he was doing with it. I gained quite a bit of performance on my R5 2600 by upgrading from an RX 580 to an RTX 3070. And e.g., GTA V can run on FHD with 8x MSAA now 😍 (would never expected that to be possible). And I know, monitor upgrade is probably next 😄. It was fine before as well, I just wasn't able to experiment with raytracing hardware 😄.

[@wayland7150]

@@AntonioNoack Upgrading the CPU is not going to make the RX 580 into a 3070 but both are significantly held back by Gen 1 RYZEN

[@Allyouknow5820]

That thumbnail is great 😂 Thanks Steve!

[@SirChocula]

I got the 3600 when it came out and it's been a great mid range chip but I'll personally be waiting for the 7000 x3d chips before upgrading again :)

[@NZRoflcopter]

Same with the 3600, but personally I think I will be getting a 5800X3D in a year or 2 so I can spend a lot more on a GPU upgrade and get a bit more life out of my fast DDR4 and existing mobo.

[@DarthAndre24]

@@NZRoflcopter same bro. the 5800X3d is a marvel of a CPU but 450-500 USD is still a lot of money.

[@wrusst]

@@DarthAndre24 not really it will an extend the life of the platform another 3-4 years and probs run a 4080/90 fine . Sell the 3600 for 100 bucks that's now 350 upgrade . Now factor in DDR5, new board , and the same gaming power as a 12700 or 12900. It's 350 bucks Vs 700-900 bucks of similar frames . In that time frame ddr5 prices and boards will bottom out and can easily make the jump to zen 5 or 6 and miss the ton of bios updates on the new socket. If you math out cost it's actually extremely cheap upgrade Vs a new system

[@Baligante]

3600 owner with a mediocre B450 board here, since I'm not targetting high framerates I don't think I'll be upgrading anytime soon, but a 5700X might be interesting for some decently multithreaded work and to max out what my board can handle if its price drops

[@DarthAndre24]

@@wrusst good point, but since I game at 1440p with my 5600XT, the lack of VRAM makes it really show its age, and a GPU upgrade would first be the priority.

[@ZerodragYT]

the difference between the 3600 and the 5800x3D is insane, makes me tempted to upgrade but I'm still very happy with my 3600 and 3060ti combo.

[@hariskhan01]

I think then you can wait for 5800X3D to drop to $300, then it would be a no brainer.

[@redrock425]

I'm currently using a 5800X3D with a 3060Ti, I think my GPU is holding me back 😉

[@zxbc1]

I don't know if you can call it "insane". More than double the launch price (and more than triple the current price) for a 50% best case (top of the line GPU) scenario is not at all impressive. It's a last resort upgrade path for people who don't want to spend money upgrading to a new platform.

[@Trancelistic]

I run a 3600 and 3060TI as well. Its awesome.

[@erichall090909]

@@zxbc1 it’s literally double the performance in a ton of cases. Yeah that’s pretty good for a 450$ chip upgrade. Or from the 5600 it is also incredibly worth it lol. Just come out and say you have no idea what your talking abour

[@raszelast]

The more impressive comparison is the 5800X3D vs 5600X. Sometimes the 1080p 1% lows are comparable to the 5600X's average and its a much more recent chip.

[@codyguy2643]

yeah this is something I was wondering about. currently using a vanilla 5600 with a vanilla 3060. Some games seem to see no improvement wiht a 5800X3D while others benefit more from the extra cache. If the 5800x3D drops more in price, I might consider it.

[@vacuumofdoom5052]

This is my exact situation! Thank you! Literally have one in my cart but haven’t clicked checkout

[@achillesa5894]

Spot on at the end. For many of us 3600 owners the option to upgrade to the capstone of the AM4 socket and get this much of a performance uplift for just a CPU swap is extremely tempting. As for me, I play at 1440p with a 5700XT so I will hold off for now and aim for a better GPU first, but the 5800X3D would likely be next. Thank you for the thorough review.

[@HiTechHate]

This was pretty much my exact situation - was gaming at 1440p with a 3600 and 5700 XT, ended up getting a 6800 XT and then the 5800X3D shortly after. Definitely happy with the decision.

[@Steffen744]

@@HiTechHate Bought a 6800 XT a few days ago. Still using a 3600. So I`m thinking about the 5800X3D. Are you still happy with the switch?

[@HiTechHate]

@@Steffen744 Oh yeah 100%. My thought process was very much the same as how Steve describes it in this video - might as well get the best that AM4 has to offer instead of having to upgrade everything else to go to AM5. I also play games that are pretty CPU-intensive, like online competitive multiplayer titles and Risk of Rain 2 and such, so the upgrade to the 5800X3D has been great, especially in the 1% lows. Your mileage may vary a bit depending on what games, quality settings, and resolution you like to play at, but if you've got the money to spare, I say go for it.

[@Varmint260]

Those uplifts are nuts! I upgraded from the 3600 to a 5800X while I still had a 5700XT as my GPU, less because I needed it and more because I wanted something new and shiny. Certainly was a little disappointed at the time that there was little to no uplift in the games I play while running that GPU, but it did highlight just how good the 3600 was. The 5800X3D is something else, though!

[@andersjjensen]

The 5800X3D spells more trouble for Intel than people might realize... It's neck-and-neck with the 12900K despite using significantly less energy, and despite Intel had a full year more development time on Alder Lake. Zen 4 and Raptor Lake are on the horizon now, with Zen 4 being slated to fix the clock speed lead that Intel has. If AMD comes hot out of the gate with the Zen 4 X3D variant(s) it's absolutely in the realm of possibility that their traditional roles will be completely reversed: AMD as the premium brand with the ultimate gaming performance, and Intel as the value king that provides good all-round performance for the price.

[@BljesakiOluja]

It has been very useful and now has me looking at my credit card and all the work I have around the house and crying haha... However, my R5 3600, RX5700XT and 16 gigs of RAM are still kicking fkin ass at 1440p so I can't complain. Thank you for the comparisons, I was wondering how my PC stands after 3 years of new tech.

[@tuurekeranen1771]

Same set here with 32g RAM, and thinking just the same. :D

[@Moximaxius]

Same as me

[@Quackerano]

Thanks for the useful content, as ever. I'm assuming the reason that 4k isn't tested here is because you're likely going to be GPU bottlenecked - but I would've been interested to see a couple of the extreme examples there tested at 4k (F1 2021/Riftbreaker at one end, and Tiny Tina or something at the other end) just to validate that assumption.

[@johndoh5182]

Very good Steve, you figured it out. AMD owners will buy a less expensive CPU for a socket when they know there are future releases coming out on that socket. Then when the last gen comes out for that socket they often get the best CPU they can, within reason for that socket and the amount of time they own the MB is often around 5 years. They don't have to always have the "best" system. You get a MB that you really like and that's the base of the system, not the CPU, so you're dealing with something you get very familiar with over time and in the end you got a lot of use out of the product and you enjoyed it the entire time.

[@dawienel1142]

I bought the 5800X3D to replace my 1700@3.85GHz system which had a RTX3080ti in it at the time, was gonna keep using the Asus Strix x370 board, but decided against it at the last second since I didn't want to be stuck with a R7-1700 lying around. So I got a cheap Asus Prime B550 and added a 1TB 4.0 Sabrent drive to the mix. Never in my life have I seen such a big gaming upgrade before especially for MMOs and modded Indi RTS games. I applaud AMD for releasing this last hurrah and for my gaming needs which hardly includes AAA games these days I would buy this CPU 7 times over. My 1700+X370 & RX470 system is happily chugging along being used by my parents for work and movies. Lastly check my YT channel out for my benchmarks.

[@StevensQuinten]

As a 3600X owner in my system, and looking to upgrade without changing to the upcoming AM5 platform, this video helped alot. I'm definetly upgrading after your review! Thanks alot!

[@neoaliens8635]

Evening Steve! Really appreciate your enthusiasm in those comparison benchmarks and your amazing work. Ryzen 7 5800X3D really gives AM4 another significant gaming performance uplift and it's great work from AMD! In the meantime I'm still waiting for your RX 6800 vs RTX 3070 Ti 50 games benchmark in 2022 blockbuster video!

[@OldManBadly]

I think this is one of the many reasons AM4 will be around for a couple of more years yet, as the to parts are clearly awesome for the price.

[@curtismariani6303]

Great video. I was a one of those 3600 owners. I built a family pc (mainly to keep them off my rig lol), and it had my old 2060 in it. However my eldest really took to it and was playing much more demanding titles. Managed to get a 3080ti FE at launch for msrp, but then the 3600 was holding it back. So I bought the 5800x3d for my machine and stuck the 5800x in the family one. Both PC’s have seen an improvement and mine is ready for a 4090 when they come out lol. I think the x3d will be popular as you say, as people don’t need to factor in a platform upgrade to enjoy the next gen gpu’s. I only hope AM5 receives similar support to AM4 which has been an excellent platform.

[@marinmarinov5278]

Went to 5800X3D from 3600X and the difference is massive, even with an antique of a GPU like 1080Ti

[@MidWitPride]

I for one am not in hurry to upgrade, as 3600 still has +60FPS 1% lows on everything. I am perfectly fine with that for the time being.

[@christophermullins7163]

Antique? I just got my 1080 1.5 years ago. Lol yikes I bought a 5600 to upgrade my 7700 a couple weeks ago and wow what an upgrade to smoothness to every game I run. $220 for cpu and motherboard was hard to walk away from. TY Microcenter.

[@kostasvapo69]

For the gpu you have, the 5800x3d will not do much better.

[@marinmarinov5278]

@@MidWitPride Depends on what you play. I'm a sim racer and in all sims there are MASSIVE gains with 5800X3D, so totally worth it. May not be the case for you. :)

[@marinmarinov5278]

@@christophermullins7163 Well, in my eyes everything older than a couple of generations is antique. Although sometimes there are products which are so good, that this statement is not so valid. Went 10+ years on an i5-2500K. :D

[@JCTiggs1]

I've been looking to upgrade my son's PC from a Ryzen 2600 to 5800x3d which should give substantial fps gains at 1080p, however the 5800x3d is sold out everywhere in my region unless I get it through amazon from a 3rd party seller at a higher price. I hope AMD continues to make this cpu!

[@BoxdHound]

This is fantastic. As referenced in the Q&A I know this same comparison made with a second monitor playing youtube or with significant background tasks running in tandem would be of particular interest to a lot of 5800X3D upgraders.

[@Aleksander50853]

I was using ryzen 5 3600 myself on 75 dollars asus b450 motherboard. So was really interested in getting the last processor for my motherboard. And now i got a used Ryzen 7 5800x3d that was 1 month old for 350 dollars and works great, guess i was really lucky (sold my 3600 for 135 dollars). Hopefully this system will last me for about 5-6 years to come now. Happy to see this comparison :) The only thing im "worried" about is wether or not i can keep my b450 (limited by pcie 3.0) without beeing bottlenecked if i upgrade to RTX 4080 (ti) or 5080 (ti) in the following years. currently got RTX 3080

[@pooppooper4252]

I have the 2200g. Doesn’t matter what I go for next the increase in performance is going to be huge!

[@paulz4632]

Wow still shows my 3 year old 3600 with the 6600xt gfx card is a great bang for buck gaming setup, esp since i sold my 5700 for $1500 last year and replaced it with a $500 6600xt those crypto buyers last year arn't happy now.

[@sega_kid4288]

I was thinking of upgrading and unless I missed something, seeing a 3 year old processor paired with a good gpu still gets you over 100fps in most titles it seems a bit overkill imo. I’ll stick with what I have until games demand it.

[@TsunaDragon2]

Yeah, only important if you play games like rust or star citizen or, I would imagine, tarkov

[@kosaptc38]

I do not normally comment on YT, but with new support for ryzen 3 on older AMD boards this is actually very relevant question for some folks and not many youtubers would do that complete analysis of year and half year old products. seriously great work.

[@avishekmitra3698]

A follow up video with the addition of the alleged 5600X3D with this data would be godly.

[@CannedMan]

This video is still relevant. What a CPU! Excellent work from Harbour/Hammer/Harvard on Box as usual.

[@Jaco_Schutte]

I'm a 3600 owner and as such find this a very intriguing comparison. However, given that I don't really shop at the high end for either CPU or GPU, I think I'd be better off waiting for AM5 and Zen 4 and then doing a complete system refresh. My B350 is due for an upgrade anyway; it's easily the oldest component left in my system.

[@neoperol]

The uplift is great, but jumping from 200 USD to 450 USD CPU is way too much. I rather buy first a 3070/6800. And sell my old card.

[@drchtct]

yeah don't get intrigued by a €150 vs €500 CPU comparison, it's like saying people should trash their old Honda for a new NSX. If anything, go for a great GPU first, worth it so much more for gaming

[@Jaco_Schutte]

@@drchtct yeah, think I'll decide what I find interesting or not, but thanks for weighing in.

[@bwzd]

just caved and got a 5800x3d upgrading from my 3600, and for a killer price too @ 329USD!

[@leetmanny]

this is my sitatuation, was it worth it?

[@bwzd]

@@leetmanny on a 2070super 3440x1440 in 2042 i went from 80~ average with lots of hitching during intense fights to solid 110-130 smooth as butter. also in warzone it just feels smoother, dont have numbers for you but it definitely has increased my frames and i am satisfied (upgrading was a pita though, remember to update bios before anything else x_X)

[@leetmanny]

@@bwzd thanks for info mydude, i might just bite the bullet and upgrade this 3600

[@bryanaustin8362]

@@leetmanny same here, have the x3d on order but still on fence to keep it. the 3600 is just so good esp at 1440p

[@givinnatanlie4619]

yess definitely been looking for these as I have plans to upgrade soon! as most people jump on the amd bandwagon when zen 2 releases, shocking everyone with their ryzen 5 3600 beating intel's i7 8700k. I'm one of those people and this video definitely helps me! thank you very much!

[@XD-cr3du]

Steve do you think an eventual upgrade from a 5600X to a 5800X3D would be worth it for gaming at 4k? I remember you guys tested at 4k versus a 5800X and the difference was only about 3%, although some specific games saw substantial improvements in the 1% lows, even at 4k. I'm thinking of waiting until prices drop on the 5800X3D hopefully when Zen 4 launches, and then picking one up. The gpu I'm using is a 3080ti btw.

[@Hardwareunboxed]

I've provided the numbers so that's up to you to work out at this point. I'd say no, but it depends on what you're looking for I guess.

[@ShimejiiGaming]

No it wont be worth it. They are pretty much GPU bound, its gonna take a few generations before 4k Gaming should be thought about

[@ThePgR777]

You can overclock the 5600X but you barely cant the 5800X3D, the differences would be even lower and its 4K.

[@marsovac]

Those are the differences at 4k right now with current gen GPUs. In the future you will be upgrading GPUs, so it can only grow. I guess the biggest differences would be with unoptimized games and open world games. They often have memory bottlenecks that the cache alleviates and IPC doesn't. You buy the X3D to remove stutters and increase 1% lows, not for the averages.

[@marsovac]

@@ThePgR777 This is right, however there is no point in overclocking the X3D at this moment in time (negative voltage offset + PBO, would be the way to do it if you really wish). Out of the box it flatline maxes out at 100% every GPU in existence, and probably will the next generation as well. Not shabby for a mere 105W CPU.

[@deekay13]

Yes! The exact comparison I've been waiting for! Thanks so much for your hard work! This is very helpful data!

[@nathanddrews]

Would have been cool to see you use GPUs from 2019 as well, like the 2080Ti for the high end and 1660 Super for the mid-range rather than brand new ones. Someone upgrading to a 5800X3D today would likely still be using all the same hardware from 2019.

[@6utS]

if ur gpu isnt crazy powerfull and u already got r5 3600 then ofc 0 reason to upgrade, hell i got 3080ti and oced old 8700k from 2017(6c12t cpu) and in 4k, when im aiming for stable 60fps there is never cpu bottleneck, but few times i met gpu bottleneck, especially cp2077- that game can eat gpu res like there is no tomorrow, i bet it could max out even future flagship rdna 3 from amd and 4090/ti from nvidia, rt on psycho makes ur fps divide by 3 literally vs no rt and everything else maxed lol;D

[@sbf304]

I've been looking for this exact comparison. Thanks for making this video 🙏👏

[@oghomelesskid]

with the announcement of 5700x3d. im here to see if its finally time to upgrade my 3600xt

[@ryandumlao999]

Great comparison. I was thinking of upgrading mg 3600 to 5600x but upon seeing this video, 5800x3D is really the better move. Thank you so much!!

[@blackstaarx2824]

Now i have Ryzen 5 3600 and looking for upgrade (my video card 6750XT). But as i see the fps chart in 1440p there is not much improvement over the 5800X3D or the 5600 vs the 3600 so i am rly confused if its worth it for 1440p, mostly singleplayer good looking 60fps(enough for singleplayer :D) (sometimes COD, LOL ofc which can run in 144hz or 120hz regardless if its X3D or not i think but i am ok with 60fps too ). So i could buy the 5700x for 200USD and the 5800X3D is 369USD. I dont think the X3D worth it do u? And now i am totally confused that my 3600 even worth upgrading according to the numbers? :D PLS HELP! 😀

[@gabrielnedu6367]

The more work you give your CPU the more you need to upgrade. For 1440p and that video card you will be more GPU bound. So the upgrade isn't really worth it.

[@YataLocK]

I just did this upgrade in my personal rig, what a boost! 3D V-Cache is the real deal for gaming performance! I absolutely love it.

[@bafon]

I would just like to say that the 5900X is also a good upgrade path if you're into more than just gaming.Will still have a decent bump in FPS compared to the 3600, however you get 12 cores, not 8, and if you're streaming while gaming, videoediting, multitasking like a champ and so on it makes quite a difference.

[@vidgmr86]

The performance uplift is incredible! I currently have a 3700x paired with a 7800xt I got recently. Going to upgrade to a 5800x3D soon and I can’t wait!!

[@steinscamus8037]

If you upgraded, do you see a difference? At what res do you play?

[@vidgmr86]

@@steinscamus8037 I did upgrade and I play at 1440p. There is a big difference actually with the games I play. Assassins Creed Mirage, Avatar Frontiers of Pandora, Forza Motorsport, Need For Speed Unbound to name a few are sooo much smoother and I’m getting full performance from my 7800XT. The cpu bottleneck is completely gone now!!

[@SizzlingStu]

I upgraded from a 3700X to a 5800X3D and really happy with the upgrade. This is paired with a 3080 and 1440p 240Hz monitor

[@Mywifetoldmetochangemyname]

Oh boi, I was wondering the same. I have a 3700x with a 3080 and the Samsung G7 27" 1440p monitor. How much better would you say?

[@SizzlingStu]

@@Mywifetoldmetochangemyname about a 20% increase in fps across Cold War and Vanguard

[@Mywifetoldmetochangemyname]

@@SizzlingStu that's great, I imagine it feels smoother.

[@SizzlingStu]

@@Mywifetoldmetochangemyname It does. It’s a small difference but noticeable. Also make me feel like I’m using the monitor to its full potential.

[@Mywifetoldmetochangemyname]

@@SizzlingStu fully. Can't wait til I get the budget approval to go ahead and make this upgrade. Thanks man.

[@Max-ol8mr]

Thank you for including counter-strike, especially in CPU benchmarks

[@UrukKing]

This test perfectly shows why I will not be upgrading my CPU for at least two more years. Ryzen 5 3600 is still perfectly capable of running every game there is and will keep that up for 2-3 more years, in my experience. While I don't have said CPU, I do have a very comparable one in almost every way: the i7 8700k (Same amount of cores/threads and pretty similar performance all around). And since I use my CPUs as long as they perfectly run every game I throw at them, even AMDs long socket life does usually not prevent me from buying a new board every time. A Ryzen 5/I5 usually outlives that, with about 5 years of usage and the Ryzen 7/i7 do around seven years, even if you insist on them doing every game on the market.

[@SGElPapy]

Thank you so much for benchmark a racing simulator like Assetto Corsa Competizione, almost nobody benchmark this games. This type of games are CPU intensive with the amount of cars visible on track and the physics calculations. Upgrading now!. Cheers!

[@georgitodorov4048]

The jump is insane but considering that the 3600 keeps more than 60 in 1%low in ALL games my 3600 stays.

[@emidrummer1990]

Exactly my thought:)

[@Threewlz]

It should be a good upgrade for people that play competitive, 3600 barely holds 100 fps in warzone while from r5 5600 and up can get you close to 200 fps, while being much smoother, it all depends on what you want

[@georgitodorov4048]

@@Threewlz 100FPS is a LOT. for the people who have 120hz+ monitor, have the proper GPU and make money gaming OR play for 12 hours its worth it, for the other 99% of the usesrs not so much.

[@Threewlz]

@@georgitodorov4048 i agree, afterall I have a r5 3600 too XD It is just that in a few games it lacks the IPC to push 144+ fps and have a better stability

[@Bareego]

Thanks for including the 5600 there, which is what I decided on going from a 2700x. The 5800X3D was just too expensive for me.

[@kikogod]

While the 5800X3D is tempting, I'm still perfectly fine with my 3600 and 6800XT for 1440p. 20-ish % are not good enough reason to upgrade to this CPU right now. Will wait for AM4 and see if it's worth the hefty price tag.

[@areriff]

I never put a request on the video, but I was thinking about this 3600 -> 5800X3D since it was launched. Good job.

[@silverfang4624]

i own an r5 3600 and this is what im currently thinking about , but the 5900x is cheaper then the 5800x3D

[@margenov]

5800X3D is for a gaming-focused build, 5900x is for overall performance

[@chriswright8074]

@Varity Topic now it's not you buying a who paying 450 for a 900k or what hundreds more for the oc version

[@LucasDaRonco]

@@margenov unless you game and stream. Then the 5900X or even the 5950X is a better bet

[@detroid89]

This is why I am subscribed to your channel! I was thinking prior to this video that the only logical upgrade for r5 3600 is the r7 5800x3d and after watching this video, I will be upgrading my 3600 to it but I just need more money to fork out to get a 6950x and replace my 2060.

[@mrdespizeme]

I think it's a logical upgrade, just not now, not at the asking price. Which, by the time it gets low enough, will it still be a logical upgrade?

[@zxbc1]

It will probably never be low enough price. The 5600 is like 30~% of the price of it, and unless you have top of the line GPU the difference isn't anywhere near significant.

[@bagerklestyne]

My thoughts as a 3600/6800XT owner on a X370 mobo, the 5800X3D represents essentially an equal to or bigger than generational leap from the 5000 series. Only reason I haven't pulled the trigger is the rumours of the 5600X3D / 5900X3D Either way, EXTREMELY helpful video thanks Steve.

[@aldiefa373]

Im using 3600 with 6650 xt combo, and i'm satisfied with them,

[@revnto7k]

The X3D is a really cool chip.. I am tempted to get one myself as a last hurrah for AM4 as the rest of my system is so rock solid I'd like to keep the parts I have for now. Great writeup HUB appreciate it!

[@andersjjensen]

After the better part of a decade of 14nm stagnation this last year has been absolutely INSANE in terms of CPU gains. AMD really managed to seize the opportunity to gain momentum with Zen 1 to 3, and Intel managed to fight back right in the nick of time with Alder Lake. The 3D Vcache "stunt" by AMD just seemed like the proverbial rabbit out of the magicians hat to close this round. Zen 4 vs Raptor Lake is going to be absolutely thrilling, and if the rumour/leaking folks are to be believed RDNA3 vs Lovelace is going to be a thriller too... I had all but lost interest in the boring incremental improvements in the PC space (this is written from my 12 year old "coffee table laptop"), but it's certainly been re-ignited. If it hadn't been for the crypto bullshit and human malware I think 2020-2022 would have been remembered as the second dawn of the PC for sure. Anyhow, I digress: Cracking good job as always Steve!

[@chills5100]

Thank you so much on uploading this video i have a ryzen 5 3600 bought a whole amd system in mid 2021,will upgrade to a ryzen 7 5800x3D in 3 to 4 years when i feel my system becoming slow or my games having spike.

[@odizzido]

Looks like the 6950XT is probably bottlenecking the 5800X3D quite a bit in some cases. It will be interesting to see how this CPU ages.

[@digitaltactics9234]

if you look around there is other videos that show gpu usage is at 99% so I would say no cpu bottlenecking indeed.

[@moisterxxx]

it works the other way around... cpu+ram is the main corridor of data flow

[@digitaltactics9234]

@@moisterxxx search for this video .. does CPU Rams speed even matter 5800x3D tarkov benchmark. You should find your answer there. Worth a watch indeed. He compares three different speeds of RAM and since this 5800x3D only has one CCX the 3D cash makes up for the difference even with slow ram watch and see.✅ This CPU is built diff as the kids say. 🤣

[@moisterxxx]

@@digitaltactics9234 Thanks, but it still doesn't contradict what I've said, I hope that in the future they will integrate ram and CPU(same package) in order to reduce latency and improve bandwidth and cooling

[@jadamsnz]

Thank you. I was really looking forward to this comparison. The 5800X3D is certainly looking like my next upgrade. I was a little disappointed that MSFS 2020 wasn't in your test suite as that's my most demanding "game" and it should benefit from the extra cache, it would have been nice to see what gains it would bring.

[@NZHardhouser]

+1 for MSFS 2020 - I know its hard to encapsulate all genre of games when testing, though was also keen on this CPU intensive Game/sim

[@asuchemist3371]

Takeaway: If you playing 1080P @ 60Hz your 3600 is fine.

[@Mr-qt4xr]

I love my 3600 and the 5800x3d will be an absolute monster upgrade in the future. To think I have the same b450 tomahawk mainboard for 5 years and will keep it probably for another 3 years, being able to upgrade steadily every 2 years without falling behind in gaming performance (ryzen 1200 was my first). AM4 is my favourite socket of all time.

[@asishreddy7729]

When I got my 3600, I felt like a king. With my Rx 5700xt, I get 100+fps @1440p in AAA games. Seeing this comparison really opened my eyes at how much better these CPU’s have got. That being said, 3600 is still an amazing performer as seen in the video, not even any worse in some of the games. I believe it should last another 3 years easy and stay competitive. Thanks for the content!

[@matzpimp]

I agree, 3600 is a great work hourse. In 4k at 60fps it's more the graphics card. Wish I could get a 6800x graphics card if it's ever in stock

[@m_sedziwoj]

Very nice content, this gain on same platform is insane.

[@MrSmitheroons]

Some are lucky and got a promotion, a new job, windfall of money, etc. And want to splurge on the best of the best at the end of the line. I think that makes sense. And I'm really glad you included Ryzen 5 5600 data, because that's the other really obvious comparison to do, and IMO the video would be less interesting and less revealing without that. Great work!

[@SpinningSandwich]

Thanks for including Assetto Corsa Competizione here. ACC & Microsoft Flight Simulator are probably the two biggest CPU upgrade drivers for high resolution gamers, and as more of a niche title, it's hard to find detailed benchmarks.

[@mr.b5678]

Fantastic in depth video and basically tells you everything you want to know. Brilliant work mate👌

[@grantpowell9075]

Upgraded from a 3600 to a 5800x3D for MSFS and it’s been a great upgrade so far

[@FreeIreland32CountyRepublic]

Its like you READ MY MIND!!!! Top Notch Content, Kudos!

[@EvilTim1911]

I'm upgrading from a 3600 to a 5800X3D and from an RX 5700 to a 7800XT. Recently upped my RAM to 32GB so that makes me feel ready for the next few years' worth of titles

[@ericp1480]

Great info, thank you! This makes me more interested in a possible 5600x3D upgrade if there's one down the road. :)

[@ersamatskefski1948]

Damn this channel is great. So much work is put into every video and benchmark permutation

[@Danje1-MX5]

I did exactly this Upgrade after the first couple of reviews of the 5800X3D. I’m so happy with my decision :)

[@MarioRobles93]

Thank you so much for this video! Currently in the process of upgrading (Ryzen 5 3600, RTX 2060, 16 GB, 600W) but given that I am more gpu bound rn. I'm just upgrading to (32GB, RTX 3080 ti, 850W) Was expecting to need to upgrade the whole PC in about 2 years max after that, but will definitely keep the 5800X3D in mind probably for next year or so, in hopes the prices come down a bit. That should keep me busy for an extra year, given that I usually play 3+ yo games.

[@shoff29]

I have a 6900xt, and I couldn’t decide between the 5950x and the 5800x3D. I ended up getting the 5950x hoping that long term it’ll be the better option. But this chip is very impressive and would’ve loved to have it as well.

[@deaneyle3940]

5950x is still a monster and can play pretty much any games without breaking a sweat, of course, if you only care about gaming I would still recommend 5800x3d if you hadn't bought the 5950x yet

[@ickycleric7541]

Thanks for doing this one! I’ve been trying decide where to go as I have the 3600. Finally some numbers to go off of.

[@Paulie8K]

This is most likely my upgrade path as I currently have a 3700X paired with a RTX 3080 and 32gb of ram. I won't see as big of a performance uplift as I tend to play triple A games at 1440P high settings but I rather this upgrade vs a new mobo and Zen 4 chip combo. We'll see as I don't plan to upgrade till around holiday season and things move so quickly. Great comparison as always, Steve!