Ryzen 7 5800U Review, AMD Retakes Ultrathin Performance Throne

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00:00 - Intro and Specs
03:16 - Test Setup
05:14 - Productivity Benchmarks
13:56 - iGPU Gaming Benchmarks
15:22 - Comparisons
17:01 - Final Thoughts
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Gigabyte Aorus 15G
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MSI Stealth 15M
Schenker Via 14
XMG Core 14
Intel NUC M15
Dell Inspiron 14 7000
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HP Probook x360 435 G7
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MSI Prestige 14 A10SC
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Acer Predator Helios 300 (9750H)
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Ryzen 7 5800U Review, AMD Retakes Ultrathin Performance Throne
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[@grandthor1413]

3:19 So happy that zenbooks are finally using ZEN cpus lol

[@amashaziz2212]

yeah I always found it odd that a zenbook doesn't have a Ryzen....

[@zen6591]

lil

[@welehcool2522]

The book finally meets its zen

[@Caveman1996]

Ryzen: Its like, I was made for this.

[@markpogson3799]

So..... that's the difference between now and Zen

[@JarrodsTech]

Nice one 🙌

[@saddachuha7279]

Steave Simp is back

[@JoshKeatonFan]

What are you doing here commenting on your competitor's video? This is like Apple putting M1 CPU chips inside of Microsoft Surface laptops.

[@migHty_spiDey]

Hey Jarrod review new Legion 5 Pro Gen 6

[@Siva-en6dt]

@@JoshKeatonFan its a community not a warfield

[@NicolaMastrandrea]

So now that IPC and cache have been sorted out, the only thing that AMD needs to fix is bringing their new architectures in the iGPU

[@BrattyBiker]

The bottleneck here is the memory bandwidth and not architecture. They will most likely go with RDNA2 with the Zen 4 APUs which can utilize the faster DDR5 chips so you can expect Desktop RX560 (R9 270X) Performance on the next gen APUs.

[@vncube1]

Which will be sad to watch because even with the most advanced process node for x86 in the world, PCIe 4 and GPU hogging so much die space, Xe Graphics doesn't completely blow Vega 8 out of the water. Switch to RNDA2 and AMD can be lazy with iGPU progress for another 2 to 3 years.

[@zoont_]

Probably waiting for ddr 5

[@whoruslupercal1891]

@@BrattyBiker nope, also more.

[@Disobeyedtoast]

@@BrattyBiker AMD's newer architectures are much better at handling low memory bandwidth than Vega, so the new architectures would actually improve performance.

[@MrWillypanda88]

Imagine guys... 50 years ago, 15 watt doesn't even give you enough light to brighten a small room. Now a 15 watt is enough to power billions of transistors Edit: somehow this comment section turns into a massive debate of physics, trolling and physics trolling. All I'm saying when I wrote what I wrote was, for such tiny amount of power we could do oh so much more now compared to 50 years ago.

[@mastroitek]

Which are so small compared to an entire room.... (big brain time)

[@MrWillypanda88]

@@mastroitek Not exactly my point, don't need to be condescending. I'm talking about it's function. You can do so much more with 15 watt of CPU than you are with 15 watt of a bulb, which only produce a small amount of light and massive amount of heat anyway. Also, isn't also the point? A billion of transistor in such a tiny area.

[@mastroitek]

@@MrWillypanda88 haha yup, sure. I was just messing with you

[@William-Morey-Baker]

@@mastroitek ... Okay smart ass, even the screen on the thin and lite delivers more light with less energy than a 15 watt bulb. Checkmate

[@spidermann5000]

@@mastroitek pa dum tssss xD

[@robertjif6337]

Have both 4800H and 10750H laptop, about the same, until u start using 10 browser tabs, android emulation and docker with vs code and pycharm in debug mode, 4800H handle it like a champ

[@waverleyjournalise5757]

But... but.... but..... Single threads rule! Power over efficiency! Totally better security! Better optimisation! A hot CPU just shows it's working hard! oUR nEXT cPUS wILL bE bETTER i pROMISE

[@PrinzEugen39]

Meanwhile I am with i3 10100f also usually open 10+ tabs, vscode, and unity with only 8gb ram..I'm fine

[@robertjif6337]

@@PrinzEugen39 yeah my 6700K is doing fine too, seems like intel is too hot in laptop, especially before tigerlake

[@waverleyjournalise5757]

@@PrinzEugen39 It's great to be happy with what you have!

[@PrinzEugen39]

@tangled earphones comparison was not my point. I'm just pointing out how weaker my device compard to him, which even last year i used to work on an i5 8250u+mx150 laptop for programming purposes. And im lucky enough to built a PC in 27 december just before prices went crazy, i got 1650 Super for 180$ :D yeah whatever, im kinda dont know how to answer you because im not native english hehe

[@alpha007org]

Damn, AMD's architecture is amazing. It's scalable from 15W to ~125W with impressive performance. I just hope we'll get good build quality, slim and with good monitors laptops.

[@andersjjensen]

That Zenbook did look crisp though. If it is anything like their previous Zenbooks it's absolutely premium build quality.

[@sushimshah2896]

The Slim 7 is the best imo w/ a decent selection of ports as well, but I can't find the 16GB RAM model in my country, otherwise I'd have bought it, it's pretty cheap here. This Zenbook somossa on ports, especially the 3.5mm Jack

[@lofty247]

Have a look at the IdeaPad Slim 5 Pro Gen 6 14"

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

this is the kind of editorial direction that I can appreciate it. Thanks Luigi!

[@Superiorer]

Livestrong

[@g-unit4872]

The legend.

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

@@Superiorer and prosper

[@obsidiandestroyer7015]

you are not fighting static, you fighting cancer

[@rkadi6540]

Rivestrong

[@aboodz]

I love how well-researched and beautifully assembled all of Hardware Unboxed's results are. Thanks for being my go-to guide for PC guides

[@siyzerix]

They miss out on a few things for laptop gpu's. A few very important things.

[@tanachokechain8051]

@@siyzerix OK o

[@nebulous962]

For someone like me who loves efficient electronics,this is really cool!

[@ezg8448]

Agreed, always found the U series more interesting then the H series. Now if AMD can start making 5 watt chips...

[@andersjjensen]

@@ezg8448 The day they pull that off is the day you start seeing AMD powered phones :P

[@PainterVierax]

@@ezg8448 Well, they use to make 5W chips with the Ryzen Embedded series.

[@PainterVierax]

@@andersjjensen Let's be realistic: x86 isn't as efficient as ARM and the OS and apps aren't compiled for it so any attempt will fail like the Intel powered Zenphone. During the next 10 years there is way more chance to see Risc-V gaining popularity in the mobile and low-power market than some x86 chip.

[@accelerator5524]

@@PainterVierax qualcomm uses amd gpu technology

[@djnorth2020]

Now we just need to find these laptops in stores. I'm having trouble finding any AMD laptops in a sea of sizzling hot Intels.

[@marcos14223]

they sell it like dope

[@krayzieka]

I couldnt find Ryzen laptop in Costco , Bjs and Samclubs they are the largest

[@wesleyfurnish8228]

This likely isn't something you looking for, but, perhaps give eluktronics laptops a look at? They have a thin series that's decently light , but a lil more on the gaming side. It's there "max" series.

[@m8x425]

I bought a Dell Inspiron with a Core i7-1165G7 and the CPU temps reach 100.c while running Windows updates. After 3 days I returned the laptop to BB. I don’t know if the laptop was defective or if this is normal for this particular i7. Anyway, if I could find the same laptop with the 5800u then I’d buy it right away. Anything with a Zen 3 CPU is impossible to find.

[@haguruma7832]

I managed to order a Lenovo L15 Gen 2 through going to their official site here in the Netherlands. Has a ryzen 7 5850u pro (pretty much identical to 5800u) for only 900 euros. Had a hard time finding it on any other sites so I'd suggest going to the official sites of the laptop makers and see whether you can just order them directly.

[@Exponaut_R-01]

5:16 I looked at this chart and was like "I don't see 11th gen Intel...are they just omitted from this one?" No lol they're all at the bottom

[@claqyagami6914]

Man; this silicon shortage has really saved Intel. Imagine if AMD had been able to meet demand!!

[@maxemore]

Damn, zen 3 is really a beautiful microarchitecture

[@jay-5061]

Too bad it's value anf availability on desktop is awful

[@Merrinen]

"Intel is slower here due to their lack of cores." Nice pun for a product with the name Core in it!

[@heyhoe168]

intel: at least one core inside.

[@eclipsegst9419]

needing more cores is an embarrasment, the goal should always be to improve so fast we need less. and this ipc war may finally be bringing that.

[@heyhoe168]

@@eclipsegst9419 bruh. While having better single core is nice, multicore is the only way to achieve truely high performance.

[@richard35791]

@@eclipsegst9419 keep milking that single core until really dry, cant wait for intel to reach 10ghz with 4 cores at 200 celcius and several liquid nitrogen cooler

[@eclipsegst9419]

@@richard35791 fuck yes. But I'm more looking forward to 20ghz graphine cpus that run at 40c on air cooling.

[@GeeksTutorial]

In-depth analysis. Great job 👍

[@BenK12345]

I've been really happy with my last gen 4700U (HP Envy).. works great for Visual studio and LTSpice (circuit simulations) -- which is some pretty heavy-weight stuff for a thin&light

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

Looks like last year's 4800H holds up pretty well.

Hi! Thank you very much for this very detailed and comprehensive review. Just one point missing, although I understand it was very accessory since contextualized to this specific laptop: I would have loved some compared evaluation of battery life for both APUs to have an idea of how much Intel trades autonomy for higher performance. Thanks in advance if it can be done. Keep up the good work :)

[@brutalysk6115]

I'd be really interested in battery life comparison of 15w tiger lake (rawr) vs 15w 3rd gen zen

[@PainterVierax]

well, by being made with their scuffed 10nm node and only 4 cores boosted by frequency scaling, Tiger Lake might be quite worse in long-term power draw.

[@puertadlm163]

I would love to buy one if there were any on sale anywhere.

[@adoredtv]

Was looking forward to this since my laptop is a 4700U - Alex

[@accelerator5524]

ohhhh

[@luizarthurbrito]

Been waiting the the U reviews forever. Not disappointed! I'm in need of a light device that lasts many hours of use

[@ashsalleh8383]

aren't we all

[@ghost_of_m403]

Thanks for a very detailed comparison.

[@JemaKnight]

I'd love to see some desktop comparisons in these charts. It wouldn't need to be much, even just 1 machine. It'd be very useful for getting a broader context though.

[@OTechnology]

Did I see this right? It beat's Intel's 10980HK in Cinebench? 5:14

[@fabiotiburzi]

At 25W yes

[@patricktho6546]

Always doubt the data, but if you checked it and it is valid, trust the data, not what you think it should be.

[@patricktho6546]

@@a_spire then you are not a man of science. I am sorry that you not found your way (yet).

[@desmo998rr]

@@a_spire Fanboy alert.

[@patricktho6546]

@@a_spire why should it be rigged. Witch data proofs that this is rigged af?

[@MickdeRaad]

This video got linked on AMD's official facebook page just now. Great news😁

[@meco2181]

This was incredibly informative.

[@nathangamble125]

It's interesting that Zen 2 and Zen 3 have similar performance at 15W. I guess it makes sense that AMD made some of their 5000-series lineup Lucienne then - they may as well if it has the same performance and has a smaller die than Cezanne.

[@yuanchang3238]

I'm subscrbing for the great reporting and Amazing 'Stache

[@craigdeeter8042]

Hmm, links do not go to the AMD version product page. Are you sure they are available?

[@stefanmisch5272]

They skipped the Desktop 4000 series to straight up their product line and now they immediately continue with Zen 2 in a 5000 series APU 🙄

[@Marrrrtin]

Yeah, I can't believe they have already messed up their product line naming. The new Zen 2 chips should have been called what they really are: 4000 series.

[@sushimshah2896]

I think you guys aren't upto speed *OR* are getting somewhat confused

[@Marrrrtin]

@@sushimshah2896 If that's true, please enlighten me, I am happy to be corrected. You haven't explained anything at all.

[@sushimshah2896]

@@Marrrrtin so you are just referring to the 53/55/5700U (all of them do have SMT tho) right? Well that's correct chief, they shouldn't have done that, but at least the rest of the line-up on desktop (CPUs & APUs) & mobile (H & 56/5800U) are Zen.3 based. At least it makes much more sense that Intel's line-up imo

[@Marrrrtin]

@@sushimshah2896 Exactly, the rest is Zen 3 based. That's the problem. AMD specifically skipped Zen 3 4000 series and went straight to 5000 to avoid this problem of mixed Zen in a series. Only to immediately recreate the problem. 🤦🏼‍♂️ Also, Intel is irrelevant here.

[@shamrock-]

Woohoo! Cant wait for the 5600u review

[@btarg1]

Can't wait to see this in handheld devices like the Aya Neo!

[@fkmui03]

Disappointed 5000G still using Vega Apu

[@CarlJohnson234]

Tbh, there's no reason to put Navi graphics there, because current apu are bandwidth starving, so waiting for DDR5 to see real improvements.

[@e2rqey]

@@CarlJohnson234 ^^^^^^ spot on

[@predabot__6778]

@@CarlJohnson234 That's not really an excuse though - Intel is obviously able to cram out more performance with the same memory-bandwidth of LPDDR4X - AMD is being stingy with how many COMPUTE-units they're giving us...! If they gave us a few more units, like Intel does, then the performance would improve.

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

@@predabot__6778 Sure intelboy, brag about your kittylake notebook with the 4 cores. It will become obsolete in less than 3 years. As kittylake's GPU is way larger than the one on Renoir/Cezanne

[@CarlJohnson234]

@@predabot__6778 I f you want more CUs go for R5 3400G (R3 3200G), these equipped with 11 CUs. Most of the time CU count does not matter, hence why 4xxx series (and 5xxx too) APUs are able to compete with previous ones albeit with lower CU count but with much higher clockspeed (and some minor tweaks) are able to outperform them in most instances. So it's 50/50, in some scenarios it matters, in some others not that much. On the other note, APUs are power and thermally restricted, so you cant just simply put more cores and increase clockspeed, as integrated graphics share power with cpu cores, so there's that. Also it's not linear scaling with CUs due memory bandwidth i mentioned before.

[@gingerninja7]

Could the small performance regression in some tests at 15W be that the doubled cache size is drawing more power, taking it away from the cores? Then at 25W that extra power can go straight to the cores?

[@markjacobs1086]

Possibly. Although there's a bunch more changes in there that could cause unexpected results.

[@frshunter]

Thank you as always!

[@themistoclesnelson2163]

Hope we actually get the 5800U in volume in the Us. I was disappointed with the 4700U missing SMT.

[@Spenczar1]

Super helpful video for us buying these off lease in 2024 :)

[@BAdventures]

Good initial review 👍

[@redmangaming6968]

please make a video comparing m1 based products with zen 3 based ultrabooks

[@inusl]

This is a nice mix of benchmarks👍

[@insanefanta8025]

How did you raise the TDP to 25 watts? Also, is the short term TDP 30w and the long term 25w?

[@scupking]

Nice! I'm going to be getting a laptop with the updated 5825U!

[@IsaandAli]

Just got one laptop (5825U) for college so far is an amazing experience.

[@TheCrossover369]

tims pumping out the videos this week

[@giovannip.1433]

Awesome looking product. Shame that most PC stores in NZ only seem to have old gen stock on hand since the new tech is so popular they can't even demo the hardware!

[@technosurfer92]

Please please please review the OLED display of this laptop!

[@kdcadet]

Thanks for ingluding matlab benchmark?

[@akizer0]

Looking at the graph, i dont have to upgrade my 4800H yet. Next year my friend!

[@VicharB]

I so much want to update my notebook to zen 3 but it is missing usb4/thunderbolt4, AV1 codec and PCI-e 4.0 which the Tiger Lake have. What do you think?

[@brennangippel4104]

Do you think you’ll review the Acer X34GS anytime soon?

[@twentyfo8905]

Im glad you compared it to 4800U, bought me a Yoga Slim 7 last year and i was curious how much better the 5800U was. Seeing AMD play with different architectures is very smart. If they keep up this momentum, and squeeze out even better single core performance, intel will have to admit defeat.

[@mubiar]

thx for adding excel on performance benchmark, many of us is not content creator. As telco engineer, excel and PowerPoint is the most important application.

[@nicolasarcuri7619]

hi! I just got a similar laptop and I'm considering buying a 1440p 75hz monitor to pair it to. Will it be able to handle it for my studies (excel, web, word,...) and for watching movies ? thanks !

[@123Suryasis]

This is the first Ryzen laptop with an OLED Screen and kudos to Asus to incorporate Ryzen 5000U series in their Premium Zenbook design. Regarding performance, ZenBook 13 and 14 laptops always use conservative TDP settings in different performance mode. Would love to see some Lenovo IdeaPad 5 and Ideapad / Yoga Slim 7 Laptops with Ryzen 5000U and how they perform. Lenovo normally provides higher power limits to the Processors for longer duration for Ryzen CPUs. My ThinkPad T14 can go up to 35 to 40W during load with Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U

[@jcugnoni]

Great Review (as always). The 5800u is really interesting but I would love that AMD propose a Zen3 APU with 6 cores and more GPU compute units (like 16 Vega CUs or better). Doubling the GPU perf with a few less cpu cores would be a big win for gaming and 3D apps.

[@Deliveredmean42]

Or you know... an RDN2 igpu . At this rate, the next year laptops might be using DDR5 to compensate it.

[@soekarmana]

patience young padawan looking at amd patents, and some forum discussion out there there is no need for them (at least for now) to increase vega CU, as the bottleneck is not within CU itself but RAM Bandwidth (DDR4) so cramming more CU does not magically improve graphic performance that, until DDR5 come, and with RDNA2 CU

[@Deliveredmean42]

@@soekarmana So 2022 then?

[@johnnybuoy9551]

how are the same tests performed at different processor powers? How 15W, then 25W, then 30W? How is power changed?

[@edipocdf]

Nice review, AMD should be the one to go, for people complained about 5%-10% diference on ST in some tests on tiger lake, just remember that after your system is fully loaded with programs in background, drivers, this diference will simple dissappear.

[@kidrock777]

Brilliantly made 👌🏻

[@glsracer]

I'd be interested to see a comparison with the 5800U at 35W via Ryzen Controller.

[@TheUmbrella1976]

How much better the AMD lineup meanwhile is you can see in the Matlab benchmark, in which AMD outperforms the Intel CPUs despite tigerlake sports AVX512 relevant in this bench.

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

Properly said AMD beats intel in their own sponsored benchmarks.

[@rkadi6540]

Amd dont support avx512? Didnt know that

[@andersjjensen]

Now watch what happens on Ryzen when you "unfuck" the gimping Intel's compiler does in Matlab: www.extremetech.com/computing/302650-how-to-bypass-matlab-cripple-amd-ryzen-threadripper-cpus

[@Buciasda33]

Damn this technology... Everything changes so fast... Back in the day I could not wait for new hardware and now I can't keep up with this madness...

[@Austin1990]

I keep laptops for many years. An OLED screen, where the blue pixels have half the half-life of the other pixels, yellows relatively quickly. That is unacceptable to me. I hate that reviewers just started ignoring this deal-breaking flaw with OLED displays. Apart from that, I love the review. This is very interesting and a decent bump for AMD. The lack of an improved iGPU was disappointing.

[@drerri]

Okay so hear me out I'm starting software engineering college next year, should I get 5800u or 1165g7 for coding? I'm gonna use the laptop just for school and have a extra pc for other tasks and gaming.

[@vivek5000]

Which is better 7 5800u or i7-1165g7 for daily office use like some excel, photoshop, some video editing and lots browsing ? Also which is even more better for watching videos & music?

[@rraggne]

Seems the 4800u/ 5700u still holds up pretty well considering the price and availability of the 5800u. I'm picking up a Flex 5 with a 5700u sooner or later.

[@edinetgrunhed6000]

I like this kind of video discussing Intel and AMD Under the hood

[@ed0c]

the new resolution looks great mate!

[@droidtang]

How is it comparing with Apple Silicon M1, particularly doing long time multicore tasks on battery?

[@obake6290]

I thought the whole reason they skipped from 3000 to 5000 on the desktop was to clean up the mess with last-gen cores in mobile parts sharing namespace with current gen desktop cores. And now they're going right back and mucking it up again at the first opportunity. Also disappointing that they STILL haven't updated to RDNA (1 or 2) on the mobile parts. I'm sure they're good cpus, but I can't help but feel they fumbled the ball a bit with this on.

[@KateKosmo]

FYI your links show no laptops for the Ryzen 7 5800u.

[@astropolia]

Whats the very first laptop shown in this video? The one with the S on the lid?

[@thetechnerd1617]

Would be interesting to test performance on battery

[@ameliabuns4058]

damn I remember when the fastes ultrabook only had 2 cores when I got my laptop. tech has improved so much

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

That was 5 years ago. In four of which intel was refreshing Skylake. Still we saw how useful extra cores are even if on 14nm and 15W.

[@ameliabuns4058]

@@herobrinecyberdemon8104 damn 5 years ago? time goes fast....

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

@@ameliabuns4058 I didn't follow U series closely as they were dual-cores. i3s, i5s, i7s. Yes i7s. While intel kept quad cores on desktop laptop sat on hyperthreaded dual cores for all the i-crap models. Only the high-end gaming laptops got quad-core i7s, and obviously no high-end gaming laptop used U-series dual-core. It was when Ryzen came that intel increased cores on laptops. Up to 6 on H-series and 4 for U.

[@user-jc2in3cp3g]

@@ameliabuns4058 going pretty fucking slow for me, at least right now

[@jedics1]

Would like to see the macbook M1 compared especially now it runs windows now....

[@owlmostdead9492]

I'm still waiting on a thinkpad 2 in 1 with ryzen 5000 and an oled screen :(

[@SonGChaNSaO]

Eeeyy I'm early!! Lot's of love from S. Korea!! 🤩

[@martinstanek9711]

Czech Republic too! ^^

[@SonGChaNSaO]

@ive 21 Hi Ive 👋

[@smitias_8474]

That talk about Thunderbolt is so common in reviews but I never actually seen a port or device for it in my entire life. Starting to thing it's american thing. Isn't using standard USB for everything is more convenient and some of new type C provide enough speed and power for anything?

[@99Teutons]

Yea it's an American thing Americans only buy apple products hence there's only two known ports in America Lightning port & thunderbolt port So obviously there are many thunderbolt accessories available in American market

[@andersjjensen]

Thunderbolt is common on quality docking stations. Traveling staff usually have a docking station with desk keyboard/mouse/monitor(s) at their office. It is less common among private consumers. Unless they've worked somewhere that used this and thus consider it "standard equipment".

[@blkspade23]

Its somewhat frustrating to keep hearing reviews mention it, because OEMs have the option to put it in AMD devices but don't. Intel has a certification process to use the term Thunderbolt(and logo), that would likely either charge too much for, or outright block in a lot of cases. Asrock has 1 officially certified AMD ITX motherboard, and other AMD desktop boards with it. Other board makers offer it, without certification. On the flip side, the majority of people don't actually use it when they have it. The most legitimate use is from native devices, which are niche uses like audio interfaces. Most of those people are using a Mac. Practically everyone else is fine with USB and only ever plug in a mouse and 1 storage device.

[@chomper720]

Zen2 chips in these why? Left over chips or are they cheaper to produce due to less die space? :|

[@begula6763]

Curious to see the difference between 5700U and 5600U given the difference in architecture

[@storyanaksekolah2]

can i have a 15watt tdp laptop + external mobile gpu?

[@lanchar1120]

Hi may i ask lenovo thinkpad E15 Cpu - ryzen 7 5800u Ram - 8gb Ssd - 512 gb AMD RADEON graphic ( intergrated graphics) or Lenovo thinkbook 15 Cpu - ryzen 7 5700u Ram - 16 GB SSD - 512 GB Graphic - AMD RADEON GRAPHIC (integrated graphics) Which one to choose price is almost the same only less than 50$ different

[@dtsdigitalden5023]

I usually don't give a toss about laptops, but you keep it interesting!

[@benabin1784]

What is better? Ryzen 7 5800u or i5 12500h? I will be using it for Heavy excel usage, accounting softwares and casual gaming.

[@r0yalz_r3be1]

My Ryzen 7 5800H boost’s to 90 watts in performance mode. Is that normal?

[@nadtz]

AMD knocking it out of the park recently. Still building my 'home office' stuff at the moment so laptop will probably have to wait till later this year or next year but it's going to be nice when I finally get around to upgrading.

[@aleavds3483]

Bro what would you recommend me between hp envy 2021 model ryzen 5 5500u or hp envy 2020 model ryzen 7 4700u(this cost 100$more)

[@andrewwilkinson5776]

Another review said the webcam was abysmal and the keyboard was too cramped for large hands. Please comment?

[@dg-cg5gi]

That's not what he tests lmao

[@liamsoccerpro3040]

Can you sent me the link where u got this one from please @hardware unboxed

[@vistastructions]

AMD keeps lunching Intel when they're down. AMD is absolutely killing it 🚀🚀

[@Noahboy8]

I have a laptop with this Ryzer7 5800 u processor. Is it good enough for me as a law student, to do my projects and word stuff?

[@selohcin]

Now I want to see the high-power Zen 3 gaming laptop CPUs with dedicated GPUs in games!

[@arencorparencorp2189]

now i want to see high-power zen3 gaming cpus with dedicated gpus (3070 max-p) at ALL, and at reasonable price, as i've seen 0 max-p ryzen laptops but many intel ones, and at competitive prices.. after all, unlike desktop the value is the whole package as u cant just buy the cpu

[@PauloRAgostinho]

Still AMD didn't include PCIe 4.0 in Ryzen 5000 Mobile...

[@SuprSi]

how would that have any tangible benefit on a laptop?

[@PauloRAgostinho]

@@SuprSi NMVe PCIe 4.0 and for DIY eGPU with M.2 connection (PCIe 4.0 x4 = PCIe 3.0 x8). Also the Mobile chip are used in Mini PC segement, normally use in company/enterprise ambient.

[@SuprSi]

@@PauloRAgostinho Didn't think anyone was still bothering with eGPU's on laptops but that does make sense I suppose. NVMe 3.0 drives are still blazing fast tho, doubt I could tell the difference between 3.0 and 4.0 for everyday stuff.

[@PauloRAgostinho]

@@SuprSi It's a niche market , but some people still use eGPU.

[@pweddy1]

No improvement in iGPU performance year over year seems like an odd choice from AMD knowing that Tigerlake was ahead here?

[@Arjun-eb1yc]

Especially knowing that they have RDNA2 technology, but are still using iterations of Vega here.

[@pweddy1]

@@Arjun-eb1yc Even if they didn't use Navi, they literally reduced the number of CUs going to Renoir from 11 to 8 on a smaller process! 16 Vega CUs would be pretty good. If I turn off the 1660 in my laptop the Vega 7 graphics are good enough to play tomb raider, Hellblade and other games!

[@samuelec]

Nice, but that laptop, without audio jack, can stay on the self. There was no reason to remove it on a such big device.

[@NightMotorcyclist]

So even numbered SKUs are the new Zen 3 chips while the odd numbered ones are the older Zen 2

[@dabombinablemi6188]

All this performance, for 4W less than my Asus U38N (also an Zenbook) with an A8-4555M. AMD really has come a long way since 2013.

[@jon4715]

If only would could buy a laptop with it!

[@HomeBoyLim]

What was the laptop in the intro footage?

[@aburamal9046]

I need to know this too

[@suar99x29]

What will be. 6800u with 3d stack cache and zen 4 arch and rdna 3 igpu

[@LTT.Official]

I can't concentrate when there is a caterpillar on Tim's face.