Ryzen Controller Explained & Tutorial (Part 1 CPU)

In this video we'll be going over the topic of Ryzen Controller, the principles it works on and how to set it up.
Ryzen Controller download
www.ryzencontroller.com/
Timetable
0:00 Video Start
0:15 Basic terminology
0:45 Ryzen Controller
1:40 Why use this software
2:50 How it performs
5:30 How to use it
Special thanks to the Ryzen Controller team (and Flygoat) on making this software a reality.

[@HamsterHaris]

Mobile people, here are the timecodes 0:00 Video Start 0:15 Basic terminology 0:45 Ryzen Controller 1:40 Why use this software 2:50 How it performs (Detroit and Titanfall2) 5:30 How to use it

[@HamsterHaris]

Part 2 is now live! We will tacke the questions of the iGPU, Infinity Fabric and some Frequently Asked Questions! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fneQk4l7prBsqrM

[@HamsterHaris]

Ryzen Controller now supports 4th gen APU's (Renoir)! CPU Min TDP is now Short Boost TDP in newer versions. CPU Boost TDP is now Long Boost TDP in newer versions.

[@HamsterHaris]

Ryzen Controller - is a open source utility made by the Ryzen Controller team, built on the foundation of „Flygoat“. You can download it here: www.ryzencontroller.com/

[@jassonfranklyn3130]

i almost burn my 4 months old laptop, then i came randomly to this video. You're a legend. i hope you deserve more recognition :)

[@YoMazR]

Great video. I use my 4500U (great cpu) for mostly browsing and word docs. Its great that I can underclock it for more battery life and less noise. Thanks for the the tutorial friend!

[@AnsiGaming]

My beloved brother, which settings did you adjust to do that? Please help me out if you can

[@vaasu_changotra]

The very video I was looking for! You explained and demonstrated everything so wonderfully! Thank you so much for this gem of a video!

[@HamsterHaris]

I'm glad it helps

[@flamebull5]

This is an excellent video and taught me everything I needed to know about this program. Thank you!

[@HamsterHaris]

Glad it helped!

[@user-gy4gk5pr1g]

@@HamsterHaris hey, great video first of all! How do I know if the changes I made worked or not?

[@HamsterHaris]

You will have a notification inside saying whether it is successfully applied or not If it isn't, give it a few secs and repeat - until it works If you really want to be sure, you can always stress test the cpu and see if there are any changes

[@thepcsmith1]

This is exactly what I was looking for! Very clear instructions, thank you!

[@HamsterHaris]

Glad it helped!

[@ibinmenon5565]

I love how organized the video is

[@HamsterHaris]

Thank you for your feedback :D It took me a while to figure out how to best present the data

[@VinyZikss]

How do you only have 400 subs? this video is so well made, so informative and straight to the point.

[@x_lights]

Nice, the VALORANT music in background. That gives you a like xD

[@fluxx7650]

How does this man not have more subs? Amazing video, well done sir. I have subbed for future content

[@HamsterHaris]

Thank you for your feedback, much appreciated

[@caxamot414]

Hey dude, i've been struggling with my fps in games for almost 1 year and a half. This video helped me so much! Thanks a lot!!!

[@HamsterHaris]

Glad it helped

[@akshatw7866]

Thank you so much. This has really helped me understand the software and reduced my temps a lot. Waiting for the GPU option now!!

[@HamsterHaris]

I'm glad it helped. The gpu one will not be made in a month or two as I'm currently lacking a ryzen laptop... but it will be done

[@akshatw7866]

@@HamsterHaris alright! I've subscribed to make sure I watch that whenever it's out ;)

[@anilrathore5827]

Amazing explanation! Thumbs up to your effort!! Keep it up!!

[@HamsterHaris]

Glad you liked it

[@ShibuS]

This is what i was looking for! You're great!!

[@HamsterHaris]

I'm happy it helps

[@Lawrence39350]

Thank you so much for making such informative content!

[@HamsterHaris]

I'm glad it helps More is sure to come

[@kevkevikev]

Thank you. This is a big help!

[@HamsterHaris]

Happy it helps

[@thatsme9109]

Nicely explained.

[@bidgsadge7758]

Thank you stranger, for sharing your wisdom

[@HamsterHaris]

Glad I could help

[@Bbarm97]

thanks a lot. im looking forward to the gpu video for this. and it would be nice to see the tests of different presets and test battery life and performance improvements they bring

[@Bbarm97]

and how would i know how often my laptop reverts to default?

[@kingpin-9579]

@@Bbarm97 every restart will reset it (also just closing the app might reset it). And if you want to increase the iGPU clock, set the value of vrm current in power settings at 60mA or lower (careful your laptop will run hot around 85°c for 60mA). Increasing it will add more heat and gpu clock so stick around 60mA or lower

[@wisnuzaene]

Waiting for the iGPU explanation, great vid mate! Sub earned.

[@HamsterHaris]

Much appreciated iGPU explanation most likely coming in October as I don't have any ryzen mobile devices with myself at the moment and am lacking footage to finish the video

[@wisnuzaene]

@@HamsterHaris I do have a question though, hope you will answer. I still don't understand whether increasing TDP (Wattage) will also increase the clockspeed of the processor, cause as far as my short knowledge goes iGPU uses a portion of the CPU clockspeed. Please enlighten me.

[@HamsterHaris]

Let's do this one in details. We will reffer to your CPU as an APU which is made out of the cpu and gpu component. The cpu TDP in ryzen controller actually refers to the APU tdp - the maximum heat your APU can produce (which in turn is the maximum performance it can do). The cpu component of the APU is more important (and more power hungry) than the gpu component so the cpu will always have an advantage in the power distribution. That being said, let's say that the APU has 35W and we increase it to 45W. Now the APU has more power to distribute between the cpu and the gpu BUT - the gpu max frequency stays the same! *This means that all of the tdp increases will simply be shifted to the cpu instead.* If you were to increase maximum gpu frequency (from the gpu tab) - only then would the APU allocate more power to the gpu part. TL;DR Increasing the TDP will only affect the CPU (for as long as the tdp isn't too low) P.S. one tiny exception is where too low TDP would lower both the cpu and the gpu performance as there simply isn't enough to distribute. I would also like to point out that the TDP only limits by temperature (so there is no starving of the APU but rather hitting the brakes once a point is reached) On the other hand VRM current is the one that infact changes the power distribution.

[@wisnuzaene]

@@HamsterHaris Holycow! You're the best there is! Thank you for the explanation, it means a lot 🙏🏻. Can't wait for your next video and future projects.

[@koushiknath7]

Hi H Haris. This is a really informative video. Thank you for the effort. I am using the 2.2.5 version & only tweaking the temps did work for me. But I have realised that lowering the temps too much is causing the FCLK & UCLK clocks to throttle (refer HWinfo sensor data for the processor). For e.g. in my Nitro 5 3550H lower the temps to 88 C causes the FCLK & UCLK clocks to not hit the 1200 mhz max, which means it's not communicating with the RAM at the max speed. Although 1200 mhz is achieved at 89 C. I have also noticed that the spike temps are still 5 - 6 C higher than the selected temp in RC. My settings are temp - 90, Boost TDP - 40 and nothing else. RC definitely behaves differently in different games but whatever it is, it does work and when the repasting couldn't stop stuttering, RC did.

[@HamsterHaris]

Keep in mind that reduced cpu performance might cause UCLK to clock down (for power conservative reasons) which in turn will cause FCLK to follow as they need to be in 1:1 ratio for stability. Also ryzen seems to be getting different data from many monitoring sensors, so it is often hard knowing whether there is a real issue or simply false reading I will investigate this further, however I believe that it is either power-saving or false reading from hwinfo

[@koushiknath7]

@@HamsterHaris Correctly said. I have to use HWinfo to monitor the CPU temps in Afterburner. Is there anything else that works with Afterburner instead of HWinfo for CPU temp monitoring? Also I wanted to know how is the Vega GPU temps different from CPU's when they essentially are in the same socket? The highs & lows differ a lot.

[@HamsterHaris]

None that I know of.. The igpu should have the same temp as the cpu, yes. I'll go ahead with it faulty reading I mean you could have a difference in a few degrees if by any miracle each part of the APU has its own thermometer but I really doubt amd (or intel) do it

[@HamsterHaris]

Found the time to test this Performance matches expected results within 4% (rounded down) error margin Both assumptions appear to be correct Reduction of memory clock in line with cpu clock and hwinfo giving false readings (however only when my memory clock was

[@koushiknath7]

@@HamsterHaris okay. I believe the boost TDP is what is contributing mostly to the UCLK speeds. But then again as you found the readings might be off with HWinfo. I did find that lowering the target temps too much in RC effects the UCLK speeds directly, may be due to reduced boost TDP. I'll wait for your further findings. I will be getting my hands on a R5 4600H soon so will be able to test and confirm RC behavior on UCLK speeds for 4000 series as well before and after applying RC temp limits.

[@appdata2]

Man, you're the best!

[@Strixeu]

nice video!! ♥️♥️

[@ex.nihil0]

Thanks for this video!

[@HamsterHaris]

Hope it helps!

[@danta3177]

Thankyou very much for the explanation, my ryzen 7 4800h temp goes to 100 degree while playing rdr 2 but now capped at 75 degree!! Edit: i use asus tuf A15, well known because the stupid thermal design

[@HamsterHaris]

Enjoy rdr2 :D

[@ajw9975]

Couple of questions. When you start up RC, the default values (TDP, TDPboost, TDPmin, Temp, VRM, etc.) are not necessarily the defaults for your APU, correct? Secondly: does VRM limit the TDPmin at all? I believe from my limited experience with it, you can increase TDPmin up the the power made available to the APU (via the VRM). Is this correct?

[@HamsterHaris]

1) No idea honestly. All the laptops I've tested it on were 35W variants so they all had the same values 2) It could but not necessarily. All TDP options are based around heat production while VRM is around actual electricity. So in theory, if you were to reduce the Amperage you could increase TDPmin (as less power results in less heat) while higher would reduce TDPmin. The way I look at it is that TDP is simply heat/min while VRM is simply power. In the end it is tricky as both can limit each other

[@Robs_Got_A_Gun]

Thanks for the Video! I just bought a HP Laptop has a Rhyzen 5 4500U Processor, It's a really good CPU for just a $500 Laptop

[@HamsterHaris]

Glad it can help Also a side-note HP has a shitton of bloatware which uses quite a lot of CPU and I/O

[@evanmassimino3416]

Does this program need to stay open for the changes to take effect?

[@pedropablosanchezcelis6320]

It's good that you talk about not touching the voltage because I have seen a lot of tutorials in Spanish and they simply say that you have to raise the vrm current I did not know the risk of that

[@HamsterHaris]

We use precise electronics for informatics. Every signal, every input is simply electrical current. While the electronics inside can "survive" higher currents it WILL damage them over time. They just weren't made for the currents other than already applied (or lower) On the other hand, lowering the current will not damage anything but it acts like a hard limit to performance (which we generally don't want. We want it to have wiggle around a certain value). Also too low values might freeze up the system (just a minor inconvenience)

[@pedropablosanchezcelis6320]

@@HamsterHaris congratulations for having a very professional video and for answering all the comments and questions from people

[@marco7221]

Amazing job man! Have you ever thinked about making custom configurations for each cpu and use?

[@HamsterHaris]

Not possible First is the question of silicon lottery; thus different efficiencies Second the laptop manufacturer along its cooling solution And finally the environment temperature of each user..

[@fujinrumble6374]

nice, thanks

[@tasbushort9871]

Excellent explanation with great visual aids!! Worth to subscribe and wait for more of your videos! I also have the same laptop as yours Fx506 with ryzen 3550H. Can't wait for your next post regarding the GPU part. I only have some question if its ok: As of now i just ticked on the temperature limit and set it to 80°C so that my loptop doesnt heat alot and reach higher than that "and i unticked all the remaining settings (CPU TDPs). Is this okay? -your video saves my laptop's high heating problems! Thank you very much!

[@HamsterHaris]

It is perfectly fine. You could improve on it with the TDP settings but this will also do very much. As for the GPU part - it is only for the Ryzen iGPU and I won't be able to do the video in the next 1-3months as that laptop is now stuck in quarantine..

[@davidsesh2802]

Great explanation

[@HamsterHaris]

Glad it helps

[@normyes8787]

Hi, does the CPU TDP setting mean that the computer will try to maintain the cpu at that exact tdp even when it is idle ? Or the CPU TDP means that it can use up to that amount of power ? Also I can see from some of your comments that you dont set the Min TDP so do I really need to set the Min TDP ?

[@HamsterHaris]

2nd - can use up to that ammount of power (when not in boost state). If the cpu is in idle it will downclock as much as other processess allow Tdp min is a substep between boost and non-boost tdp I personally don't really set it as I keep the boost at low enough tdp that it never hits the temp limit thus it never exits boost under work conditions. But to be honest, I did not measure any meaningful impact of the min tdp value

[@johngerardmones9467]

This is a nice video! Thanks man. And can you please make a tutorial how to use msi after burner or how to overclock gpu like the mx230 something like that

[@HamsterHaris]

Thank you I will be making more hardware related videos however this one in particular I will not be able to do until October as I currently have only Maxwell Nvidia GPU's (which cannot be modified) and AMD gpus have a bit of a different method

[@tomasdiaz8124]

I really appreciate it going from playing 80°C to 60°C with the same amount of fps in high performance (Ryzen 3 3550h)

[@GilbranAgil23]

how did you do that? give me the settings pls

[@tomasdiaz8124]

@@GilbranAgil23 First disable the turbo boost with a tutorial on youtube and then apply the same settings from this video on Ryzen controller

[@azrulamri141]

@@tomasdiaz8124 can you give me link disable turbo boost?

[@cream-puff482]

Question about what the W stands for is that for Volts? At first I thought it was for watts but my charger says 150 volts. I don't want my pc to go over 70 C, when video editing or gaming. I have a Asus Tuf 505DT. What values would you recommend? Lastly, once I have the preset applied if I close the program it will continue to work?

[@HamsterHaris]

It is indeed watts (power/heat) V is for volts (electrical potential (voltage)) A for Ampere (electrical current) Your charger being 150 volts means it is to be used within a 150v power grid - which is not a standard for any country so it is most likely a 150W charger... Meaning that it can charge that much at most. If you want to reduce temperature either impose a temperature limit or reduce the boost tdp from whatever is the max cTDP value stated for your processor. Lastly, you need to keep it open

[@Zuraditya]

Awesome video man, really appreciate it. Would you kindly make one for GPU option as well?

[@HamsterHaris]

At the moment I don't have access to any ryzen laptops however I should have them again in about a month or so and then I will make an in-depth one for the gpu aswell

[@ca9inec0mic58]

@@HamsterHaris can you test Lenovo S145? It's very cheap

[@HamsterHaris]

Sadly that is not an option. I'm a student and do this only as a hobby in free time with the devices I can get from friends and family. . .

[@F7GOS]

excellent video and loving the accent!

[@HamsterHaris]

Thank you! 😃

[@servhasvids]

Hey man everything works nice and awesome but I have this slight issue where I get absoloutely random stutters when there is no overheating or any bottleneck, from 60 fps to 30. Someone suspected that my VRM might be overheating and all, do you have any clue what possibly causing it ? I've seen random Gpu Voltages on GPU-Z althou I've been told that those were normal.

[@HamsterHaris]

Depends on how long those stutters are If you are facing short (seconds) stutters (freeze) it might just be a background process, a load in progress. If the stutter is just a drop in framerate but not actual freeze, background process or the game itself just being demanding for that moment (this can be too many visuals or cpu tasks which are not visible to the player) If however the stutter (freeze) lasts longer and is frequent OR the low framerate persists for a longer period it just might be overheating Best way to test it would be to either measure the temperatures with i.e. hwinfo (not hwmonitor) OR if you are unsure of the temp limits (as some components might reduce performance at 70C, some at 100C... depends on the manufacturer and device) you can also simply limit the performance by either lower framerate or lower settings while maintaining the same framerate (vsync or fps limit) and seeing if the problem persists. If it does - does it take a longer time to occur? If there are improvements - it may indeed be overheating Regarding random voltages.. components usually work as much as they need to (to conserve power) this fluctuations are normal EDIT: if those stutters were introduced with ryzen controller - are you trying to increase performance beyond its default? If yes, probably overheating. If not, perhaps ryzen controller on its own is causing the issue

[@WeedsAvabel]

You deserve more subscribers

[@HamsterHaris]

I feel flattered, thank you

[@yanborges8292]

Waiting for the gpu part

[@astralboy3465]

My laptop is ryzen3500u, im using 95 limit temperature and im not using battery in my laptop. Over 3 years still good. additional cooling is really need and it is mandatory

[@Bill-tz7qh]

Hi there. I recently bought a Hp laptop with Ryzen 7 4700u (Radeon graphics). The laptop was fast but it used to make a lot of fan noise when plugged in. I need the laptop for every day tasks. After watching this video, I made the following set ups: I decreased the temperature limit from 80 C to 51 C Cpu Tdp to 20 Cpu boost Tdp to 20 Cpu min Tdp to 20 Re apply option to 180 seconds Right now is does not make noise at all but I am not sure if the above set up will damage the laptop in the future. Do you think it would be better to increase the temperature and decrease the Tdp even more? Could you tell me a set up for the daily tasks and a second one for light gaming? Thank you in advance!!!

[@HamsterHaris]

Hello Temperature limit works only for boost tdp (which you have made equal to the tdp thus it won't really do anything) However, rest assured, temperatures up to 80C are considered safe (even though i.e. 70C is perfectly reasonable) Furthermore, 4700u default tdp is 15 (and default boost is up to 25) If you're looking for efficiency you could just reduce tdp to 15 (so it can boost to 20 when needed) Also, HP laptops come with a lot of tracking software that wastes quite a chunk of performance.. removing it might help you out more than limiting your apu EDIT Standard use Temp 65 Tdp 10 Boost 15 Light gaming Temp 75 Tdp 15 Boost 20 (to 25) Depending how much you actually need it Also if you don't have dual channel ram, dual channel can increase the graphics performance by atleast 30% without increasing any power input Edit 2 Feel free to modify my suggestions to your needs

[@dextrond.5557]

excellent video, I needed to know more about the function of each options in this software. And can I download the 2.2.4 version of this ryzen controller on my ryzen 5 2500u laptop? instead of 2.2.0, will it work?

[@HamsterHaris]

It will work

[@kishandesai7443]

thanks very much

[@HamsterHaris]

You're welcome

[@rohangadge1080]

hello sir can you please tell me which presets should I use i have asus vivobook 15 ryzen 5 with vega 8 (2gb) plz its would be helpful for me THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

[@HamsterHaris]

Sadly I cannot tell you which preset would be the best for you as every programe has its own requirements and every person has their own preferences.. That is why I try to explain how it works so anyone can make just the way they want it

[@rohangadge1080]

@@HamsterHaris ohh, no problem I'll learn and do it Well you explain it very nicely

[@bunyamincuci5235]

i go ryzen controller page, going to w10 download link. Link goes to gitlab page. I dont know what to do after. When i click on the windows installer link, page not found 404 error appears. i used VPN but its still the same. how can i download this thing? i can download source code but idk what to do with it.

[@vendor.unknown]

Hi ! I have questions. I have Asus tuf505du lap with ryzen 7 3750h 16 gb and geforce ti1660 6gb. I downloaded ryzen controller but nothing changes at all unless i touch power options VRM ! And what will be best setting for my lap ??? is it safe to touch VRM ? I just enable it (VRM value 30) and disable instantly but it looks like settings not resetting unless next reboot of the system.

[@HamsterHaris]

Try setting tdp values to something extremely low and apply - see if there are any changes Speaking of the VRM.. I think 30 is your default. It is safe to go lower (albeit going too low will cause a system crash) while I would advise against increasing the value. Go bit by bit and see how much it affects your cpu Also you cannot directly reset settings - instead you have to apply a preset which has the settings of default.. or restart windows Also I cannot say what the best settings are as workloads differ from one person to the other - that is why I try to explain the process so anyone can tune it to their preferences

[@spockeroff3771]

Hello sir ,I have ryzen 7 3750h and rtx 2060, my idle temps are below 50 but when in games my cpu temps crosses 95 even after setting tdp between 15-20 .can u suggest me what value should I apply on vrm current. I also cleaned my laptop fans and applied thermal paste.

[@HamsterHaris]

60 is default, so lower will do fine I.e. 45 is a good ground if cpu performance is not imperative Keep in mind that the majority of the heat comes from the rtx2060 (min 50W) as opposed to the r7 (max 35W) so while you can reduce the heat a bit from the cpu, it won't be as impactful as reducing fps or ingame settings..

[@spockeroff3771]

@@HamsterHaris yeah I'm using with 20w and vrm between 45 and 50 getting decent performance at cpu clock speed locked at 3250 GHz and lowered temps

[@alfredodriz5888]

Will these settings run as soon as you boot up/restart your laptop or do I need to run Ryzen controller everytime?

[@HamsterHaris]

You need to run it every time

[@profiyntroz5186]

Hey, by the updates there were added short and long terms boosts. What preset do you recommend for increasing gaming performance then?

[@HamsterHaris]

If you're using a dGPU chances are that overheating is the issue so the standard solution is to reduce the TDP... That way the GPU has more heat headroom to boost to higher clock speed (under the assumption that the now slower CPU can still follow up) Keep in mind that long boost > short boost > TDP

[@profiyntroz5186]

@@HamsterHaris well, i play 7 days to die. I play it on full hd or 1600*900 (depends on if i play solo or not) and I got 30 to 45 unstable fps when playing solo and 20 to 35 when playing coop. The temperature was always around 70° with coolboost and lifted Back side of laptop for better airflowing. Im just curious if i can make some preset which will increase my fps. I can have my laptop about 10° hotter (80° is max for safety i think).

[@HamsterHaris]

Well that depends on what the bottleneck is... If the gpu is maxed there is nothing more to do; you can only reduce the cpu frequency to reduce temperature and hope that maybe the gpu can reach higher clock due to reduced thermals If the cpu is the bottleneck.. let it reach higher temperature so it can work with higher frequency This programe is more about a bit of decreasing performance for a significant drop in heat than it is for increasing performance. Simply the way electronics work

[@valdemaar3000]

Hi! Recently got myself a Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3 15ARH05 (82EY00EDPB) laptop. Which Ryzen Controller settings (TDP, temp, e.t.c.) would you recommend that'll keep CPU at reasonable temp? Specs: - AMD Ryzen 5 4600H (6C/12T, 3.0/4.0GHz, 3MB L2/8MB L3) - NVIDIA GTX 1650Ti 4GB GDDR6 - RAM 8GB DDR4-3200 Apart from all laptop will be used for gaming and video editing. Спасибо!

[@HamsterHaris]

The 4600H at 15W can hold 2.8-3ghz And at 45W 3.9ghz. Imagine the curve Anyway, I have the same cpu and for gaming I use... 70C Tdp 15W Long boost 20W Short boost 17W For video editing Tdp 25W Long boost 35W Short boost 30W Quite frankly I don't see the point of 45W; as the move from 35 to 45 barely awards 0.2ghz in additional performance. What would help you quite a bit would be dual-channel memory; as the cpu does benefit from it Just be careful when getting ram; look for JEDEC 3200mhz otherwise both ram sticks will downclock to 2133mhz. And no, crucial DOES NOT have 3200jedec but instead via XMP. It is false advertising. As a fact (and bought and tested myself), kingston has the appropriate ram modules. P.s. feel free to modify my values if necessary, they are just a reference point :D

[@valdemaar3000]

@@HamsterHaris Thank you! Initially I was planing to downgrade TDP for longevity reasons and with little impact on performance. My current plan is: TDP 30W / LB 40W / SB 35W I hope that temp will go down as the fans are bit noisy in my laptop and I want them to switch on less. Thanx for the tip on ram.

[@rezamoallem]

hello and thanks for the advice, how should I know that my laptop is reversing the ryzen controller settings?

[@HamsterHaris]

Amd uprof might help to log data otherwise.. you'll just feel the performance shift or i.e have the cpu reach high temp. again after limiting it to lower values

[@ashutoshrao5170]

Great video! I have a question though. I have an Asus A15 which has the Asus armoury crate. When I play games, I set it to performance mode. Is that enough or should I use the controller as well? And will they effect each other?

[@HamsterHaris]

Performance mode will simply let your components clock higher (causing more heat and causing the fans to spin faster to mitigate the heat) You can use RC but you don't have to - it is simply here to control the cpu to reduce total heat output (which is good for gaming as games are rarely bottlenecked by the cpu)

[@ashutoshrao5170]

@@HamsterHaris Ohh alright, thank you so much!

[@tenthclass8085]

@@HamsterHaris Is there a setting you can recommend for the ASUS TUF A15? I want to keep my temps lower than 80C and lately they go to 83C for Red Dead Online and GTA V. It has been a year so I need to get the laptop cleaned out but there are no ASUS centers at the country I moved to right now. Should I just set the temp limit to 80C and will that work or do I need to fiddle with other settings?

[@HamsterHaris]

You may need to fiddle with the tdp settings a little bit Also keep in mind that your gpu is connected to the same heatsink, so even if you do offload the cpu, the gpu may still be responsible for higher temperatures Also, 83C is not that problematic so you don't need to worry that much

[@fatemehhamounpou1815]

Nice video sir! is there any chance to revert the settings to what my laptop normally offers?

[@HamsterHaris]

Yes Close the programme, restart your device and don't re-apply any of the presets after the restart

[@shashwatmalla]

Thanks this was a very helpful video! I have a question. I believe the fan modes change the CPU clock speeds? So, suppose my default mode is silent mode and I apply a preset for gaming from ryzen controller. I wouldn't need to switch the fan mode to turbo, would I?

[@HamsterHaris]

Cannot say for sure whether your laptop will refresh its settings every now and then but in theory what you said should work

[@shashwatmalla]

@@HamsterHaris Hey I have the same processor as yours so I tried your "videoediting" preset for gaming by changing the temp limit to 79. No matter how I tweak it, I get almost 10-20 average fps drop while in your video, there's only little fps drop. Any suggestions? (btw my fps was and is never stable, probably because i have a low-mid gtx 1650 graphic card but idk)

[@shashwatmalla]

But my laptop doesn't heat like a stove anymore thanks a lot for that!!!!

[@HamsterHaris]

Keep in mind that many other factors may effect performance such as single channel memory, background applications, WINDOWS UPDATE THAT DIGS ITS WAY UP FROM HELL EVERY FORSAKEN DAY and finally some games just really want a lot of cpu horsepower. Gtx 1650 is low-mid tier but it is a LOT stronger than the rx560x hahhh The reason why the framerate drops in my examples were negligible is because for them - the gpu was the bottleneck But but.. considering that you've said that it had always happened, it is actually as youve said - most likely the gpu. Experiment with it a bit, half the graphics settings but limit framerate, see if the fps drops still occur. If they don't, you merely have to adjust your settings for the gpu Also a sidenote, generally the most taxing things in gaming are; resolution, AA, shadow quality, SSAO (if applicable) and particles Reducing all of these but the resolution should yield great performance improvements at the cost of almost no visual fidelity

[@shashwatmalla]

@@HamsterHaris Hi again, I'm still trying to figure out how these values work and your video helped a lot. I tried what you told me to do but the fps is kinda same. I normally play first person shooter games and sometimes gta v. Can you suggest me the values to put for gaming with performance please? CPU - Ryzen 5 3550h GPU - nvidia gtx 1650

[@spidermarvelios1596]

can you tell what should i do for my ryzen 5 2500u ? ( I have acer nitro 5 ANS515-42 , with rx560x ) , ( i think my gpu is fine but i need to control my cpu as it overheats a lot like it reaches around around 75-80C while even playing among us .... and when i play some heavy games it reaches 80+)

[@HamsterHaris]

Reduce tdp or the temperature limit for boost If you're not sure how, watch this video

[@msr2710]

Hi... I wanna buy this laptop for programming in backend & full stack... I mean, I won't use it full loading at all... Is it possible that it becomes so hot? And bother me? Or this problem just happend for Gaming time.

[@HamsterHaris]

If you're referring to the fx505dy The issue arises during gaming only. While maxing out only the cpu does make the fans rather loud, the frequency stays at 3.4ghz across all cores at an acceptable temperature To be precise, any laptop with a dgpu will have no issues maxing out the cpu whilst the dgpu is idle as they are always connected by the same heatsink

[@thephilosopher699]

Does undervolting will work with my Asus-TUF 705DT ( Ryzen 3550H and Nvidia GTX 1650). Dual booting KDE Neon(Primary OS) with Windows(use only when gaming).

[@HamsterHaris]

If you're referring to direct undervolt, it should will work in your distro (provided you find the software for it or make it yourself) but it will not transfer to win afaik If wondering will ryzen controller will work due to dual boot - yeah and will not transfer any settings to linux

[@sumitkumar-vx7wc]

Can i use this software for regular heavy gaming when I play games cpu temp reach to 90+.. If I use this software will it damage my laptop??

[@HamsterHaris]

Reducing values below default will in no way harm your laptop. Increasing values above default values has potential to cause damage!

[@frazoni.]

Thank you for the video. When do you plan to release the video on the GPU part? Thanks once again Btw, what temperature limit do you recommend for a Ryzen 3700U Vega10? After some testing it really improved the performance of my pc, the only problem is that right now the fans are almost always at max, any tips?

[@HamsterHaris]

Gpu part will be done somewhere during the next week All 3rd gen ryzens have a theoretical limit of 105 C but I suggest not to let it go above 90 C. Regarding the fans.. you can slow them down by increasing the maximum temperature limit (not recommended), reducing performance or if you're feeling adventurous you can apply higher quality thermal paste. Cooling pads or anything that might raise the laptop from the surface might help (to open it up for better airflow) Sadly, laptops are doomed to loud fans when paired with performance

[@frazoni.]

@@HamsterHaris Thanks! I set the max temp to 85º and it seems to be working pretty fine :)

[@frazoni.]

@@HamsterHaris I set the normal TDP for 22W, do you think that that's too much or that it will reduce by a lot the lifetime of the pc?

[@HamsterHaris]

U class is rated by default for 15-25W tdp so the voltage following your tdp setting is safe The only question is the chips temperature which depends on the laptop itself Guidelines for the temperature (during full load) 105C dead 100C instant shut down 90C/85C (depending on the chip) point of thermal throttle For as long as it doesn't go above the thermal throttle point you're good. (Expect average lifetime) If it is lower than it, great Also keep in mind that it won't always be under full load.

[@frazoni.]

@@HamsterHaris I think that during full load they're like 75°C on average. Thank you for your time and for making this video, its noticable that you know about what you're talking

[@alphaAzuyr]

Nice video! Could you show some of the presets you used on your laptop? I have the same one and they look interesting.

[@HamsterHaris]

I have many presets right now but my 4 most used ones 1) this one is while writting stuff or watching videos, laptop is mostly silent t limit 70 All tdps at 5W 2) standard workload with more simple tasks at the same time T limit 60 Tdp 10 Boost tdp 15 Cpu min tdp 13 Boost period 180s 3) gaming (lighter games like wow/csgo/sc2) T limit 75 Cpu tdp 15 Boost 20 Cpu Min tdp 17 Boost period maxed out 4) heavier workload like rendering T limit 80 Tdp 25 Boost 30 Min tdp 27 Boost period maxed out (This is still slightly slower than stock as cpu is rated 35W) Also a note that min tdp is minimum boost tdp* (it is oddly named in 2.2.0)

[@TheGabonesantal]

Hey, I know this is an older video but I just got over it, if let's say I only change the temp limit and nothing else , will it work?

[@HamsterHaris]

Hello Yes, it will work if you decrease, however increasing the value probably won't work (and is not recommended)

[@TheGabonesantal]

@@HamsterHaris thank you for your reply! Yeah decreasing is what I want to do, i got a ryzen7 5800h and it overheats like crazy only way to keep it cool was to disable turbo boost from windows. I will set the limit to 85 and wont touch anything else

[@HumanBohra]

So is it a good solution to reduce the temperature of asus tuf a15 by reducing tdp value

[@HamsterHaris]

Yes

[@roflanpepe675]

(translated by google translator) Hi, I also have a ryzen 5 3550h in my laptop. Can I just use all the values ​​that you showed at 6:17 or are you using something else?

[@HamsterHaris]

The values at 6:17 are simply generic values, I am using a few presets 1) For internet browsing and easy tasks (this should turn off the fan but the performance is minimal) Tdp 5 Long boost tdp 7 Short boost tdp 6 VRM (power tab) 30A 2) For older games and watching 1080p / 60fps or higher media Tdp 15 Long boost tdp 20 Short boost tdp 17 VRM 35A 3) For more complex games and tasks, while sacrificing a bit of performance Tdp 25 Long boost tdp 30 Short boost tdp 27 VRM 45A 4.5) (THIS IS 3550H DEFAULT) Tdp 35 Long boost tdp 40 VRM 60A 4) For when I'm looking for higher performance while ignoring heat Tdp 40 Long boost tdp 45 Short boost tdp 43 VRM 65A You can copy any of these and also without the VRM setting as it is a bit specific for my way of use. Without the VRM setting it should still behave in a similar way.

[@darioelguezabal5840]

@@HamsterHaris Hi, shouldn't short boost tdp be higher than long boost tdp? That's what some people tell me so I'm confused. Also, if I want to play, but not overheating my cpu until 100Cº, is it enough to just ser temp limit? Or should I reduce tdp? I have ryzen 5 3550h too*

[@HamsterHaris]

Hey Yes, it can be but it isn't really beneficial for gaming It is a very short clock boost (which might not improve performance at all), furthermore, when talking about heat as an issue, that lets call it super boost as it is higher than standard boost, will produce insane ammounts of heat (heat increases almlst exponentially at higher clock rates while performance increases linearly) Finally, for most of the games even the stock clock will do fine, let alone long boost The way I do it is just more power efficient Regarding the 100c First it depends on whether there is a hard temp limit imposed on your laptop, if so, it won't reach 100c at all However, 100C is usually a hard limit and will instantly cause thermal throttling! Speaking of lower temps, the temp limit should work but might not be as intened as the cpu and the gpu are on the same heatsink, meaning if the gpu provides more heat, the cpu will mitigate some of the heat on itself. It those scenarios a reduction of tdp might help a bit Lastly, id like to point out that the discord of ryzen controller focuses more on pure power while I focus on efficiency, both are valid in my opinion and serve their purpose

[@nv5609]

I need help I'm using 3750h nvidia gtx 1650.But I used vrm current option for one day. Will it affect my cpu?(dual channel ram)

[@HamsterHaris]

To be precise, you can use the VRM current without causing damage - and if it still works, no damage has been done. Imagine it like this.. The TDP options limit the CPU according to the heat while the VRM according to the power input. While protections are in place for both ways, high heat will simply shut down the system while high electrical current will destroy the components. To answer your question - it won't affect it if used short-term with small changes in values. Some time later I'll be making in-depth videos on the PC components themselves and electronics in general which might explain why do I advise against higher electrical currents

[@johngerardmones9467]

Can i do this to Ryzen 7 3700u? You know this cpu and the 3550h is almost the same but not in tdp. So it means if i put my tdp up to 35w in my 3700u (like in the ryzen 5 3550h? i can have the same performance as the ryzen 5 3550h?

[@HamsterHaris]

That is correct.. but The issue is that most laptops with the U variant don't have the cooling capacity for 35W Unless you can keep the CPU from overheating you'll end up with even worse performance. If you can however - you just got yourself a 3550H

[@johngerardmones9467]

@@HamsterHaris oh i have a cooling solutions, i don't have problem with that. Big thank you men, all of my question was answered. Nice video btw, goodluck you deserve more subs. you earned my sub. Peace.

[@johngerardmones9467]

how to set it to default tdp ?(15w) do i just need to close the ryzen controller to set it do defaultl automatically?

[@HamsterHaris]

I cannot say for sure as every laptop seems to react differently but all the ones I've came across did indeed reset once you close the programme

[@johngerardmones9467]

@@HamsterHaris or i just make a preset with 15w tdp like the default one too for assurance. Right?

[@HamsterHaris]

Yeah, that will work

[@johngerardmones9467]

@@HamsterHaris thanks man. Now my mind's at peace. LOL

[@rennn4602]

My laptop is an Acer Swift 3 Ryzen 5 4500u. I usually use Ryzen controller only when gaming(mostly playing World War Z) and it usually gets real hot when playing after 30 min. Currently, I only use the temperature limit (at 80C). Can anyone suggest me whether i need to use other options like the cpu tdp to cool down my laptop? If yes, can you please tell me the settings i need

[@HamsterHaris]

Keep in mind the laptop will feel hot to us even at 40C and due to the way heat dissipation works it is inevitable that the chasis heats up over time But if you want to reduce it furthermore, you could keep reducing the TDP and boost tdp's by 5 or so until you reach a balance between heat and performance (The 4500u has a default from anywhere between 15 and 25, depending on the manufacturer)

[@rennn4602]

@@HamsterHaris Thank you so much for the info 🙏🙏

[@maksymilianreiter3111]

hello mister, what would you say for example about underclocking a 4000H series cpu to make it have less heating issues while still maitaining decent performance? is it better to just buy an U series instead?

[@HamsterHaris]

That is a double edged sword In theory, the U series should be more efficient on lower frequency clocks but OEM's commonly use that "advantage" to simply make cheaper, thus less efficient cooling solution. In reality... Get the H series which runs at 45W, let it run at 35 or 30W and still enjoy high clock speed while retaining less heat. You will have no issues making a 45W cpu run at 30W but you might have a lot of heat issues making a 15W cpu run at ~30W Edit: the temperatures should be about the same (due to the OEM thing explained above) whilst the H class will outperform the U class. Also be sure to check specific laptop reviews as sometimes certain models have great cooling solutions. Also also, keep in mind that the U class is by no means weak, but ofcourse if performance is imperative, H class all the way

[@maksymilianreiter3111]

@@HamsterHaris thanks for the response! Im interested in the MateBook 14 (2020) equipped with with a 4600H that is dialed down to 40W right from the box and still has major heating issues (cpu temp goes up to 95* celsius). I think I would need to run it at 30W and hope for the best. Once again, thank you

[@HamsterHaris]

A simple solution would be to disable cpu boost entirely That would leave you with 3ghz in frequency across all 6 cores and with drastically reduced temperature.

[@maksymilianreiter3111]

@@HamsterHaris I guess I should look for boost-disabled benchmarks and see for myself. Also: do you think that occassional boost-enabling leading to high temps could damage the computer? let's say that I'd edit my video unboosted, but render it boosted. Cheers

[@HamsterHaris]

It should not cause any damage 105C is the point which will damage the cpu At 100C your laptop will either aggressively downclock or simply shut down to prevent damage Ocassional high temperatures (but lower than numbers above) simply slightly reduce the lifespan. But even then you can expect atleast 4-5 years. It is only when the temperature is high all the time which is common amongst bitminers (or imagine using the device as a render farm most of the day - every day) can drastically reduce the lifespan to a mere year or two

[@pedropablosanchezcelis6320]

I have a ryzen 5 3500u, is it okay to put a 25w tdp and a maximum temperature of 85 degrees?

[@HamsterHaris]

Yes. Just keep in mind that if your laptops cooling solution is inefficient you might end up with slow-downs However most U class laptops are ment for 15-25W Also while there isn't a strict "okay" temperature; I personally don't go above 90C (while >100 is actually dangerous)

[@chromantium5210]

hi haris, this video is what i was looking for months. may i ask u a question. my laptop is nitro 5 rx560x ram 16 dual 3550h. i already use good thermal paste. my tdp is like this, min: 35W long: 42W short: 50W there is 2 cases when playing apex legends (both lock fps at 60, with lowest and 1920x1080 just like my monitor) . 1. i set cpu performance max to 99%, i got 63°C but the game not really lock to 60fps even drop to 30. 2. i set cpu to 100% (which is turn on the turbo boost) and its lock the fps to 60 BUT the cpu temp is 90°C and then throttling (gpu is okay in 80-85°C) i tried your guide with first case, even set all tdp to 48W, its not working still not lock to 60fps and 63°C. maybe u know whats the problem? or maybe i have to do it with nitro boost 100% cpu performance or what i have to do? ( sorry bad english :( )

[@HamsterHaris]

Alright I'll try to explain everything Case 1) setting cpu to 99% will limit your cpu to 99% of base clock (2.1ghz) - as you've said it will not boost due to the restrictions Case 2) is self explanatory However. Case 2 will result in 35-40W max -> which in turn thermal throttles after some time; meaning that if you're setting to even higher, you'll just hit the temp limit in an instant and exit boost state immediately and reach 2.1ghz down again You'll want to reduce tdp to range of 20-30 instead of increase... Also short tdp should be less than the long but more than the cpu tdp (cpu tdp < short < long) And ofc auto reapply to a reasonable number as settings tend to reset back P.s. haven't tried apex on the r5 3550h but I did achieve 60 constant in titanfall 2 (same engine!) on 20W tdp

[@chromantium5210]

@@HamsterHaris oh so i did the wrong. instread of boost it, i should "nerf" it. okay i'll try your advice at tdp 20-30. *edit: i tried it like what u said. tdp : 20W short : 25W long : 30W and it works! i can play apex in 1920 x 1080 even in high setting in 60 fps. the average temp is between 84-87°C. man u r a magician. i hope it still like this. thank you so much for the help man 😁

[@chromantium5210]

@@HamsterHaris sorry haris i ask again after 1 week. how to reset the tdp to default again? i try restard twice but its still not restart the tdp.

[@HamsterHaris]

Restarting windows MUST reset the settings If by some black magic it doesn't (wish it wouldn't here lol), for the 3550h default settings are: boost tdp is 35, short boost is 25 and tdp is 20 Edit: tdp is 15 not 20

[@chromantium5210]

@@HamsterHaris okay i'll try again your advice

[@rankob4625]

Great video! Does the software work for desktop ryzens? If not, is there a desktop version of the software?

[@HamsterHaris]

For desktop versions there is ryzen master - official software by AMD

[@nccls9379]

Hi! The model of my laptop is Asus TUF FX505DD and the specs are: -AMD Ryzen 5 3550H (8CPUs), ~2.1GHz -AMD Radeon Vega 8 -NVIDIA GTX 1050 3gb -8gb RAM Which ryzen controller settings should I use for Gaming and AutoCAD/SketchUp???

[@HamsterHaris]

Depends how heavy the gaming is on the cpu You could do tdp 20 and boost 30 (or similar variations) as a slight downplay on performance for quite a chunk on heat You could also try to undervolt your gpu Considering how heavy autocad is, i actually wouldn't limit anything..

[@nccls9379]

@@HamsterHaris thanks!

[@dikawibisono1126]

Is it safe to only reduce the temp limit? I don't want to mess my default settings, but I need my chip to get under 80Cels. I play rdr2 for like 12hours a day and it always reach to 95cels. Idc if my fan sounds like a jet as long as it can extend the lifespan :(

[@HamsterHaris]

It is safe. However yoy can get better results by limiting how high the boost goes

[@lordmalix3141]

Would if possible to under clock my integrated graphics to get more performance on cpu? I tried to completely turn it off but my laptop display is connected to my integrated graphics, so I can't turn it off

[@HamsterHaris]

TL;DR at the bottom Technically yes but unlike the cpu, the igpu part clocks to what it needs On top of that the igpu component costs about 1/3 of total power (and heat) You can try if you want (inside thr gpu tab; the frequency options) but my personal take is that it will be hard to distinguish from statistical error TL;DR Yes but it isn't worth the performance gain

[@withlyr8843]

Hi your video is great I'm French and I managed to understand everything just do you have to change the preset or can we keep the same?

[@HamsterHaris]

I'm sorry but I'm not sure what you are asking. Could you try to clarify?

[@withlyr8843]

@@HamsterHaris do I change presets every time I stop playing ?

[@HamsterHaris]

Ahh You don't need to (unless you want to)

[@withlyr8843]

@@HamsterHaris Ok thanx

[@content8420]

I want to know what tdp values did you set to keep the temperature around 70C? And mine is 7 5800H so what tdp's should I set?

[@HamsterHaris]

I usually use Tdp 20 Tdp long (boost) 25 And tdp short 23 If it isn't enough (especially since you have 8 instead of 6 cores), feel free to increase all values equally to accommodate for the performance needed (The default tdp values for your cpu are 45-54W (with some OEM'S going all the way to 80W, which I would avoid by all means)

[@content8420]

@@HamsterHaris Thank your very much for replying!

[@content8420]

@@HamsterHaris also can we undervolt using ryzen controller? By sdecreasing voltage?

[@HamsterHaris]

Sadly you cannot undervolt on windows; only linux woth other programmes Reducing voltage will just flat-out starve the cpu and will push the frequency down (It is the voltage of the motherboard supply to the cpu but not of the cpu itself; meaning supply is reduced but demand remains the same)

[@JPAcuna3]

I'm trying to use this software in my 3750h because i suffer from high temps, but i'm not sure it's doing anything. It still goes above the temperature i selected as max. I only set that value though, i didn't want to mees with any other numbers. What could be wrong?

[@HamsterHaris]

Hello Few possible reasons Some laptops simply don't want to modify temperature value. Workaround is reducing tdp a bit. This is especially true for those with special software regarding performance profiles such as asus armoury. Also, if during gaming the temperature goes above your temp limit, keep in mind that the cpu and gpu are on the same heat sink - meaning that the gpu will most likely heat your cpu above the level you've set Hope this helps

[@AusOpening]

I have a ryzen 3750h, tdp is 35w but I have liquid metal so temperature is very low, is it possible to set the tdp to 40-45w?

[@HamsterHaris]

Quite likely.. though you'll have to track the temperature and see for yourself

[@minilogue993]

what will happen if I put temperature limit too low? will it break the hardware? thank you. subscribed

[@HamsterHaris]

You will simply break out of boost every time it starts and will hold the APU (cpu) pinned to the stock frequency (or less)

[@trekken3913]

we have the same laptop model, can you tell us the settings you use so that I can just follow it for all settings thank you.

[@HamsterHaris]

I have multiple settings 1) this one will be fans off with simple tasks. And it is only for simple tasks Temp 70C; all TDP at 7W 2) Normal web browsing and 1080p video Temp 70C: all TDP at 12W 3) light gaming Temp 70C; TDP 15W; boost 17W; boost tdp min 16W 4) heavy gaming Temp 75C; TDP 20W; boost 23W; boost tdp min 21W 5) videoediting and such (max performance) Temp 85C; TDP 30; boost 35; boost min 32 Keep in mind that I'm using only TDP modifications and no VRM ones. The room I'm in is usually always at about 25C so it suits my settings I'd also like to point out that while these settings work for me, they might not be ideal for you and tweaking is required. That is why I focused on explaining the mechanics so everyone can fine-tune it for themselves

[@trekken3913]

@@HamsterHaris Thanks! new subscriber here.

[@johngerardmones9467]

Is it really safe to put your tdp into 7w only? I thought the minimum for this cpu is 12w?

[@HamsterHaris]

Yes. With lowering the TDP we are lowering the performance (and with it the voltage). The worst thing that can happen is a unresponsive system (which is fixed by restarting). You cannot damage your chip by slowing it down. The 12W minimum is just the wattage it is rated at to run without slowdowns. The only reason I use 7W is because I am writting in MS Word (or reading) quite often - and this way I can make the chip cool enough to disable the fans. The downside is that the cpu is clocked at about 0.7ghz. Point being - it suits me but it might not suit other people

[@GE0RGE77]

How do we disable the modifications done by ryzen controller when v don't want to use it. I set the temp limit to 85 then I uptick the temp limit but still the ryzen controller modifications exist.

[@HamsterHaris]

Restart will ALWAYS clear all modifications.

[@GE0RGE77]

@@HamsterHaris thanks for the info..Ur video was helpful.. I have ryzen 5 5600H laptop processor. It's default tdp is 45w. What limit should I set in ryzen controller? Thanks.

[@JasonG]

What happens if I just set a temperature limit and that's it? Will it adjust everything POWER, LONG BOOST, SHORT BOOST? ETC?

[@HamsterHaris]

It will change just the temperature limit.

[@JasonG]

@@HamsterHaris yes, but i mean will it affect the frequency to lessen the temperature? and power? or will it turn on the fan to maintain the limit everytime? Like if I set it to 60 celcius and render a full HD video on Adobe Premiere pro? Or play Warzone?

[@HamsterHaris]

Literally, it will only change the temperature limit To explain in depth Fan curve is set by the OEM so you can't change that one - and it is regulated by either temperature alone or temperature and frequency. That being said, if you set 60C 1) cpu will exit boost as soon as it hits 60 (meaning back to stock speed 2) if your fan curve is regulated by heat itself, they won't even spin up all that much as 60 in laptop environments is considered great (for whatever reason) With the fans being slower than expected at full power you can expect a fall in performance but also.. well a drastic fall in heat (as it is limited to 60C) You have to understand the parameters for this programe to be efficient Fan regulated by cpu temperature (+ potentially frequency) Boost regulated by max temperature (which keep in mind, if you set i.e. 80C but your mobo can handle 75; you aren't getting past 75c) Boost frequency and stock frequency regulated by heat output (tdp options)

[@marcusgarcia856]

hi, im thinking of getting a huawei honor magicbook pro 2020 with the ryzen 7 4800H. however, im also considering the lenovo yoga slim 7 with the ryzen 7 4800U. huawei says average battery life on the magicbook is 11 hours (56Whr batt) on 1080p playback, while lenovo says average battery life on the magicbook is 17 hours (60.7Whr batt). im assuming that the magicbook has a shorter battery life due to the 45W TDP 4800H compared to the 15W TDP 4800U of the slim 7. given this, is it possible to extend the battery life on the magicbook by reducing the 45W TDP of the 4800H to 15W using ryzencontroller? are there any pros and cons to this? i want the longer battery life of the slim 7 but it is just so impossible to get so im looking into the magicbook as a competent alternative. hoping for a quick reply from anyone. thanks

[@HamsterHaris]

Long answer incoming You can extend the battery life of the huawei one with the ryzen controller although keep in mind the following 1) you lose performance for the watts you reduce 2) if you set the H class (45W) cpu to 15W just like the U class - the U class will outperform the H class despite both having 15W. Reason being that U class are hand picked as the ones in production that ended up more efficient. Some factors to consider more. -The lenovo one has a slightly higher capacity battery. -If either of these has a dedicated gpu that one will have shorter battery life because devices draw power even when idle -This one is very important! Take their measurements of battery time with a grain of salt. Most testing is usually done in impossible conditions or are exaggerated. Try to find reviews of the specific models and see if their claims are truly correct P.S. If you've really set your eyes on one device and believe it is perfect for your needs, don't settle for anything less Just my advice

[@Gabriel-gj2ee]

how can you get dose temps and fps , i have the same laptop with the settings that ypu put in your other video and my temps go really high and fps really low in this game (detroit become human ) im i missing something ?

[@HamsterHaris]

Detroit is a mixed bag of bad luck to be honest.. I've had it barely work with 2700x and 1080 but it worked well on fx505dy It is a poor console port, many people are facing issues with it and have refunded for the same reason Try it in literally anything else, it will work fine

[@Gabriel-gj2ee]

@@HamsterHaris o well thx for the answer , i just tought that beacause i have the same laptop (fx505dy) it was gonna work the same

[@HamsterHaris]

In theory and mostly in practice - it does But console ports always had more issue than one could count..

[@pedropablosanchezcelis6320]

One last question, I speak Spanish and I didn't understand the part about why re-apply periodically between 30 to 60 seconds? Why not put it in a low number or 0 so that our preset is never removed or so that it is applied more often?

[@HamsterHaris]

Applying it causes microstutters as it modifies the limits of the hardware. So the more often you apply it - the higher the chances of lag.

[@pedropablosanchezcelis6320]

@@HamsterHaris thanks, like and new sub

[@Hassasin27]

Cant I just use the Amd adrenaline software and set it to gaming or e sports?

[@HamsterHaris]

Not gonna lie, I don't know how well those settings work.. you'll have to test it yourself

[@wolfxotic8652]

Will decreasing TDP of ryzen 5 4600h to 15W be safe?? I want to use laptop for 4-5yrs atleast...plz reply

[@HamsterHaris]

It is safe to reduce tdp to any value below the default one

[@sobordinates]

Can you help me? My laptop (Acer nitro 5 An515-42) throttles at only 75C. The cpu should be able to withstand 95C but it downclocks to 1.98Ghz from 3.2Ghz. I changed the temp limit to 85C in Ryzen controller but it didn't do anything. All it said was "unable to apply ryzenadj", and it does this every 30 seconds. Also: I keep getting white screens in ryzen controller when I launch it, so i have to uninstall and reinstall it and restart for it to work again, and then if I have to reopen it i have to repeat the same steps

[@HamsterHaris]

People seem to be complaining a lot about thst specific model doing the same.. Can't help you there, I can only refer you to the discord of the devs (you can find it on the website)

[@sobordinates]

@@HamsterHaris Nevermind I fixed it. The software isn't perfect, which is alright, so it sometimes applies the presets and sometimes doesn't. I thought my laptop's BIOS was stubborn so it would revert back every few seconds, so I made Ryzen Controller apply the presets every 10 seconds. Sometimes it would apply and sometimes it would fail. So I turned off that feature and now I apply the temp limit myself.

[@misterpro7903]

Does Ryzen controller work with intel if not is there a similar app for intel based computers?

[@HamsterHaris]

Nope You're looking for "intel xtu"

[@GilbranAgil23]

can you tell me best to performance with max temp 85C? because my laptop keeps getting 92C

[@HamsterHaris]

Sadly there are no perfect settings as performance depends on the requirements of the program. That is why this video is purely educational so that you may fine tune it to your needs

[@GilbranAgil23]

@@HamsterHaris i mean im afraid if i do it by myself then the laptop will make something worse 😭

[@karthikeyan-gy8tn]

hp pavilion 15 gaming ryzen 5 5600h gtx 1650 graphics battery draining issues and i dont know how to set values pls helpme

[@HamsterHaris]

The gtx will always drain more battery than the 5600h, so that is the biggest power waster (next to the screen itself) Regarding 5600h, you can maintain a good score with limiting all the tdp values 20-30. That is sufficient for all cores to reach stock clock and for 2 cores to reach max boost clock

[@rrekz]

Great explanation, also I need your help. I am a newbie on this kind of thing. I have an Acer nitro 5 with a Ryzen 5 2500u CPU and RX560X GPU. May I ask you what settings do you recommend? I've also noticed that my CPU starts to throttled @75 degrees and all of my CPU clocks will go down at the base speed which is 2.0ghz and my fps starts to drop down and that's my problem. I really hope that you can help me.

[@profiyntroz5186]

i have the same laptop and need also a complete preset for increasing gaming performance cuz im new to this and dont know english well

[@rrekz]

@@profiyntroz5186 i did some experimentation just recently after watching this video, did some research too and managed to get a stable settings for me. I only did 2 things: 1) I set my temperature limit to 73°c to avoid thermal throttling at 74~75°c 2) I set the CPU TDP to 20. I tried to set it to 15 and lower but it affects the performance so badly to the point that I was experiencing a lot of stuttering in games. Note that 2500u has a cTDP of 12-25 watts so if you want to lower your temperature you need to set your tdp lower than 25 watts. Don't go lower than 12 because if you do that you will starve your CPU and badly hurt your performance. I've tested it on some games and i'm getting 68-70°c on temperature with auto fans and i avoided that god awful 2.0ghz lock when reaching 75°c

[@rrekz]

^ but still want to know what @Hamster Haris' recommendation though ;)

[@HamsterHaris]

There have really been a lot of comments with acer laptops causing issues and so far the only solution was either the reduction of TDP OR reduction of VRM current. It seems that something somewhere on those forsaken motherboards is cooking. Your solutions are good and logical. If you're feeling adventurous you could reduce the VRM from 45 (i believe that is the default for your apu) to 40. P.S. regarding presets, there aren't any perfect ones. They really depend on your workload. I.e I will be using 5-7W for browsing, 15W for older games such as age of mithology, 25W for Apex and 40W for video editing (using 4600h)

[@rrekz]

@@HamsterHaris The only problem i have with acer is this CPU throttling at 75°c. My CPU (according to AMD's website) has a limit of 95°c before it throttles but someone in acer decided that it's a good idea to limit it to 75°c. I am so confused why they did that. I know that's like a "feature"to protect the cpu from overheating but really? At 75°c? I'm even more confused. BTW. Thanks a lot man, your vid really helped me understand what i needed to do. Edit: Also thanks for your suggestions really appreciate it.

[@ginnoloisflores6971]

Can I use Ryzen Controller to undervolt my ACER NITRO 5 R2WK laptop? Its temp is hitting 90 degrees when I play World War Z. Please help.

[@HamsterHaris]

I don't want to be rude, please try watching the video. Your questions will be answered there

[@TorinAst]

Could I use this program to increase battery life for simple tasks?

[@HamsterHaris]

Yes

[@vishvaamohan2304]

Well does this ryzen controller influence locked processors like 3750H?

[@HamsterHaris]

Yes It might have some quirks but yes

[@vishvaamohan2304]

@@HamsterHaris What do you mean by quirks? Can I boost the max ghz t0 more than 4 ghz.

[@HamsterHaris]

By quirks I mean the occasional failure to apply settings or settings being reset at times. You can only boost the cpu to whatever the theoretical limit of the cpu is (what most of the cpus don't really hit) Also keep in mind that unless you're stocked with liquid metal cooling system - chances are that it isn't going to happen. Heat is an important factor

[@xis10zera]

My preset cpu tdp is 25w. Should i just reduce to 20w or is 15w is better?

[@HamsterHaris]

I don't understand your question all that much so I will answer all. The settings you get once you open ryzen controller for the first time are not necessarily the ones for your cpu! You didn't say what your apu is.. If you have an H or HS class apu 25 is lower than the stock settings and will reduce the heat output by quite a lot at the cost of some performance If you have a U class apu you above your stock settings and will gain performance at the cost of additional heat output (for as long as you don't reach the point for thermal throttling)

[@micko3674]

hi bro,can u give me the setting for R3 3200U because idk anything about this i just gonna apply as u give me the settings so it won't get any damages on my laptop,i just gonna copy paste the settings that u give me. tnx

[@HamsterHaris]

Are you trying to reduce heat or increase performance?

[@micko3674]

@@HamsterHaris slightly increase perfomance

[@HamsterHaris]

Unsure of your cooling solution so here is something you might need to modify Temp limit 85 Cpu tdp 17 Long boost tdp 25 Short boost tdp 22 If you actually lose performance (and it gets hot) reduce tdp to 15 and boost tdp to 20 If it works better but simply feels too hot reduce all tdp by ~2 If it works about the same (or you feel you need more) increase all by about ~2