S02E04 - Grubby's WarCraft III Commentaries

[@mpa3588]

I wish I could experience WC3 the same way I did so many years ago. The nostalgia actually makes me sad at some moments. I can't think of a single game that has left memories as much as this game did.

[@MajoIngram]

same here but with fallout 1, 2

[@Christoff070]

Same here but with Deus Ex and VtMB

[@MPCreates]

The dual-commentary was awesome! Not only was it cool to hear the opinions of two pros, but you changed the race from our to human. Overall, it added a nice bit of variation to the series.

[@tpiom]

Nice dual-commentary... I remember that the flying machine used to be so much more powerful. It was REALLY GOOD back in the old days.

[@weakasshoe]

Glad you brought back this series. I watched your replays all the time when I tried to learn Orc back in the days.

[@Vaikisspwnz]

i was watching so many replays of tod back in the days :D nice to hear him

[@Z3phrim]

This was a really sweet and informative co casting, really enjoyed ToD's participation. It would be great to see more of these, really great entertainment! Thanks Grubby and ToD.

[@Spaylz]

Keep them coming, Grubby. I absolutely love WC3 to this day, and it's even better to see you co-cast with ToD. Bring the old 4K duo back! I look forward to the next video. Please do keep them coming, I mean it! Long live WC3!

[@StaffRecordPlayer]

if we're all honest, WC3 wins over SC2 by any means. it is just the most perfect strategy game (after chess)

[@ImperialGuardsman74]

Chess is an imbalanced strategy game and black hasn't been buffed in millenniums, daed gaem.(white has a massive advantage in chess represented by a consistent 6-10% higher winrate since it was first recorded in mid 19th century)

[@KuntaKinteToby]

ImperialGuardsman74 WC3 was and is heavily imbalanced, that's what makes a truly good strategy game - a set of rules which have exploits and vulnerabilities which cause the players to have to use skill to work around. In SC2 the balance is so finely tuned that there is no margin for error, flair, or creativity, there is simply 'do it or lose'. In WC3 crazy builds could work on the back of skilled unit control, and that's what made it so awesome. Same as in chess, yes Black is statistically at a disadvantage but grand masters have frequently employed unique strategies which fly in the face of standard play and surprise the white player.

[@ImperialGuardsman74]

BarakaObama2012 Thing is SC 2 isn't balanced, it's one of the biggest complaints of the community.

[@ex0duzz]

ImperialGuardsman74 That's why in chess you take turns being white/black(ie in a match). It's comparable to SC2. Different maps favor different races, and that's why you have vetoes in order to try and counter this advantage/disadvantage.

[@ImperialGuardsman74]

***** It's not the maps that are unbalanced.

[@PSdodo]

Thanks for uploading! I am always excited to see whether you uploaded a new Warcraft III commentary when i log in. Always interesting what you pros were thinking while playing these games. I really enjoy watching these videos and regulary try to copy strategies while playing against friends...(well I usually lose, since I am not good enough to play them efficiently, but it is fun nonetheless ;-)) So thanks for this commentary series Grubby, I hope there will be a lot more epsiodes that follow in the future. Big Thanks to ToD as well! Really enjoyed you two doing this Co-commentary!

[@meow7016]

I screeched like a Bieber fangirl when he said ToD will be joining him. These commentaries mean more to us than you probably imagine Grubby. The WC3 community is small these days, but mature and fiercely loyal. listening to you and ToD talk about these delicious memories of the past is just...the best thing in the world. Keep up the great work, Warchief! -Loyal WC3 fanboy

[@cryhavocandletsplay4883]

Grubby and Tod, like the good old days! Such a pleasant surprise.

[@HatsonFGC]

Grubby, your casts are the best because they're fun to watch, super informative and interesting to hear your perspective of it and the pro tips. I also watch a lot of CrotaGaming WC3 casts, but yours are still my favourite ones. I love the game, and still play it from time to time with my friends on LANs and such. Thanks for the casts, Grubby. How we have a lot more in store. :-)

[@ex0duzz]

You're comparing Crota's casts to Grubby's? lmao. Crota is just 'play by play'(and he's even 'bad' at that.. IE in terms of focusing on the right screen/area) and 'color commentary', which is probably what he's best at(IE making it sound more exciting than it is by raising his voice and changing the tone/pitch/speed etc when a unit/hero gets surrounded/focused/saved/killed etc etc), he also never looks at tech/food/base or anything), while grubby is one of the most informative/insightful and in-depth casters around, basically the complete opposite of Crota. I apologize for talking about Crota so much on a Grubby video, but it had to be said. Hopefully he reads this and takes it into account in the future.

[@HatsonFGC]

***** I did not mean to say Crota was comparable to Grubby, but I still watch them both. I know Grubby is way more informative, as he is a pro player at the game himself. But Crota is still fun to watch, imo. That is why I watch both. Even though I enjoy Grubby's more.

[@Scroll55555]

***** I do watch Crota as well, however, he has become annoyingly negligent lately. His latest casts are full with mistakes, he confuses the units and the players a lot, keeps using phrases which are not fit into the particular situations, makes nonsense statements like "mountain king is very low on hit points" meanwhile it had 600/850, "death knight takes a lot of damage" meanwhile it was fighting with only a militia and so forth. Maybe he lost his interest a little bit.

[@sbowen737]

crota SUUUCKS lol nah hes aright for some games... i recommend iTrainHum, SirPurebe, Stonebreakkid as my fav youtubers... grubbys great too im just not a huge orc fan lol but i loved this video =)

[@VeggeMight]

Great casting guys,really cool to have someone else's insight into the game.

[@Limboman1988]

Please do more of these commentaries with ToD!

[@LexNatural]

Great cast I am looking forward to more with Tod. Thanks Grubby.

[@SexytimeRTS]

'like a blademaster would' i can feel some spite there :D

[@SmoothJK]

Oh man, I love ToD! Not only his playing, but his blog was always entertaining and insightful as well. This is going to be a great video... =D

[@lowlypawn]

Thanks for making these videos. You are basically preserving history.

[@timex7]

very nice, thanks Grubby and ToD. More please!

[@piotrbrzostek2637]

fantastic !!! Thank you Grubby :) and ToD :) cant wait for the next one!

[@richardassman8944]

I don't understand why Sky started that fight at the end. He was still in low upkeep while ToD was in high. Why didn't he hide behind his towers and force ToD to engage? I really enjoyed this commentary. Thank you Grubby! Thank you ToD!

[@diegoesquivel7928]

ToD is one of the best human players of all time he invented the human game playin different than the others.like this two commenting more of this please

[@MrPsy0pus]

Grubby + ToD => awesomeness !

[@MeatMonsterMan]

No complaints here, thanks Grubby for the great content, ToD was great, nostalgia!

[@fisheryu4453]

nice game, hope i can still watch your commentaries after i have returned to china.

[@hakalaxen]

I realy love these videos. Keep them coming!

[@WalkingGermany]

hope you do more with tod! good combination

[@dorobot05]

4Kings. YES.

[@privacypls1033]

Wc3 is just the best game ever And its a shame how the developpers are treating it Thankx so much for the very entertaining commentatires Keep it up ;)!

[@franzholger3601]

Great! How about a game between you and Tod with the double Commentary?. Would love it!

[@Laurenss8100]

again great stuff, keep em coming!

[@rednecktash]

Hey Grubby I found the replays of you and ToD in WC3L..I made a thread on WCR that has all the links and such. www.wcreplays.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147217 Love your commentaries btw keep up the good work!

[@TheSssiiiddd]

YES. MORE. YES YES YES.

[@miguelpanta]

fantastic, thx for those videos!

[@ex0duzz]

Awesome, thanks for doing this Yoan(and Manuel ofc). You should also perhaps put ToDs name in the video title at least. :P And can someone tell ToD that it's pronounced Griff-ins, not Grie-Fons. ALso, i agree with the other comments saying that you guys should cast two games between each other(and have 1 game win/lose) and not just the 2v2. I hope you guys can do more than just one 2v2 since you guys did play WC3L together as a 2v2 team, so you should have a decent number of candidate games to choose from.

[@martinsennitis670]

ask the german back2warcraft guys, they have a channel in every social media. i think they casted one orc,knight+mort tod+grubby game. They have found lots of exotic old golden replays!

[@xs433]

did you see the WCA in China this week? We miss you grubby!

[@jake263]

Hi guys, Warcraft 3 is one of my favorite game , and I want to start play it again, where can I play these days? looks like Battle.net is lag and no people playing there... thanks guys

[@TheMrj66666]

great commentary, thank you. Have you considered doing the same with Rotterdam? I think it would be pretty awesome.

[@just2potamos]

loved all his replays so far, but not so sure about this one. Its fun to hear tod talk about wc3 again, but honestly the whole message of this replay was, dont let your archmage die to a mountainking, which is kinda cheap, if you dont say, what you planned, to prevent him from killing your am. (btw am should have died, when mk was in range for bolt at minute 10) I just love grubbys overall talk, which techniques you can use (like the exp tome) to avoid hero snipes, or why you can creep this camp at this particular situation, but i felt kinda all of that was missing in this one : (

[@grubbbby]

Hey Potamos, thanks for feedback! If we have time to do another one, we will have a cooler replay for sure: a 2v2 against the Koreans in WC3L >:)

[@hoabomby]

2 King Tod + Grubby ^^ Nice video, thanks

[@martinsennitis670]

turrets energy supply recall, locusts you guys have gotten so starcraft :D

[@Vahe345]

Love that intro!

[@apm7358]

Sky is the kind of player that if things go along as he planned his opponent will get suppressed terribly. But whenever his rhythm is broken, he can hardly recover and gain the upper hand like grubby. He may not be the most talented player in war3history but he definitely is the one who achieved most and practiced hardest in his prime. Tod's micro isn't great in small fight but somehow whenever there is a 80vs80 army fight he never lost...

[@Frizchen12]

Wc3 Past-Cast #34: Grubby & Tod vs. Insomnia & HoT - 2v2 Grubby & Tod vs. Insomnia & HoT

[@Frizchen12]

w3g.replays.net/doc/cn/2005-5-21/11166336000000096912.html

[@Joe22c]

Would love to watch 2v2 of You and Tod in SC2 oor WC3! :)

[@XlightNtrEnx]

why doesn't purple use priests for dispel magic?

[@f1shbr4instreams94]

WC3..best times ever (:

[@Carlitoboyhey]

Dream come true

[@failzortimqche1208]

GRUBBY THE KING!! Play some wc3 in w3arena while you stream ;D

[@Rabbioso1996]

Will you do some commentaries of Sc2? p.s.: We want also stephano as special guest! v.v

[@Donthackful]

can you upload more in one week? pplzz

[@Mebeawannabe]

Awesome!

[@Seki1987]

Hi Grubby, nice co-cast, could you do more? If Yoan is not available, maybe you could get someone else, my fellow Croatian ZeuS maybe? I would love to hear him. You should also play more often and post it even. W3 scene is not so dead, there are couple of fanatics left like WtiiWarcraft(way outside of box, very fun strats) there is also Crota, maybe not so proffesional but very fluent(good games still, you could cast them) there has even been a podcast called Warcast by Filmting to revamp the W3, check it out if you want(since we are not gonna see 4 for a long time... even patches for 3 would be God given, could you pull some strings?) there are other people as well... P.S. You should cast games where you lost (because losses are essential in building your game and you ARE gonna lose sooner or later, it's natural) i feel like you're leaving out a big part of your history, even if it is uncomfortable. Maybe co-cast with someone who beat you, gain insights to what they were thinking at the time, i don't think it's a bad idea.. Keep up the good work!

[@aaronmccoy8897]

i like... thx for tod

[@coilnova692]

I wanna see the game Grubby vs apm70 a.k.a Deadman( RIP)

[@Vahe345]

Tod is great as well. GG... If you guys want do a reply on a 1v1 game that you guys played vs each other maybe one that grubby won and one that todd one that would be cool to see what you guys think about those competitive games. I like watching Tod vs Grubby and Sky vs Grubby games but i guess most of those have been viewed a lot already.

[@Carlitoboyhey]

2v2 game next with tod

[@l0ngj0ng]

4k TOD and 4k GRUBBY :) GRUBBY: please do you vs sky! a series of games hopefully, the one where he tower rushes you! I forgot the name of the game but its legendary. type in grubby vs sky on google its one of the top ones ever

[@M0n0chr0m4t1C]

Hello urgbby.. I would like to do a little interview with you. What would you do if Cassandra would chop off both of your Hands with a german broadsword ? If you look at your overall SC2 stats, how much do you want WC4 ? On a scale from 7 to 13 how long is your ramalamadingdong ? How hard did you laugh when you heard that ensnare is nerfd ? (ofc after you switched to sc2) Why the hell is your body so tiny compared to your head ? Now or a more or less serious question.. How would your own game look like ..?

[@ZordonidasXD]

"THEY CAME FROM BEHIND"

[@dextano112]

perfecto

[@00Noontide]

Gg Tod!!!

[@Yoman1289]

I thought I knew everything about this game. Did not know double click ever takes u to expo Did not know gyros can be inner fired

[@jlavenski]

Tod Hype!

[@SnX901]

4k.ToD, SK.Insomnia, WE.SKY, Th000, yumiko, best human players :).

[@TheKijera]

Angstgegner? is that actually an official english word? because its german

[@zeiferalmasy8138]

I d really give money to see these two players going in china and defeating the imba chinese players at WCA

[@olegnovikov8822]

sky not split his birds from copters AOE T_T

[@cenntraru]

Tod had been playing WC3 for like EVER and didn't win anything. The most remembering thing about Tod in my mind is that he had been whining about LS all the time. The entire Human race was considered useless, no Human won any major event (RoC doesn't count). Until Sky came out and showed the world how one should play Human, and he did it so well that Blizzard had to release a few patches to reduce Hum's power. And even today Humans win most of the major tourneys using Sky's style. This one game Sky just didn't play his best, but he did win this bo3 and he had beaten Tod's ass for many times with beautiful, non-standard strategies. And Sky did that to Grubby too :)

[@jayv8068]

Ancient russian is the noob from twitch chat :) --> sweetw3

[@voidsmith]

Never won anything? Pls try to get info before writing bullshit. ToD has more achievements than sky (and retired from wc3 earlier), just check wikipedia. He won the WEG masters, he won the WC3L couple of times, which are major events. HE is the player who reinvented human strategy, not sky. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

[@ex0duzz]

voidsmith ToD re-defined Hu as a race more than ToD? Sorry, but you're talking shit now. What was the strategies that ToD is known for? We have the Sky Push, and Panda second in HU mirror, and others. What does Tod have? Name 1-2. And make sure they are INDISPUTABLE, like the two i just listed. And Sky is pretty much Grubby and Tods arch nemesis.. and that's only because he WON nearly all of the time when they played. Especially against ToD, since Sky was just a micro beast and outmicro'd Tod every time.. but not just out micro, but also out stategized, although i will admit that mass heavy air(griffs) was pretty imba.. but hey, orc was imba vs UD so it balances out. Grubby was 'out strategized' for the longest time, or rather you could say it was all/mostly imba, but grubby also thought moon's 'tri hero + dotts' was imba too and likened it to "shooting ducks in a barrel" until he figured it out later on..(ie more raiders and less/no grunts, along with HH even), and like mass dotts, he also learned to counter the sky push with good burrow placement/sim city(so you can micro the catapults in your base, along with having access to the shop and not getting the shop/unit sniped easily), along with an early watch tower or two(or even building a war mill at all) in order to counter the 'sky push'.. Tod on the other hand never learned to counter it, because it's HU mirror and theres no imba or weather conditions(like lack of air con..) to complain about(sad day for you tod lol), there's only microing better, having better positioning for engagements and having better scouting in order to have better unit compositions and better timings.

[@ManFromTheFizz]

***** Yeah, lets keep arugeing !

[@Birdeeh]

2v2!

[@barkaszg]

Doing a wc3 commentary, or any video for that matter, every 3 weeks is unacceptable. I would like this to be taken into account when planning/making future videos.

[@jayv8068]

play and stream some more wc3 games grubby on your twitch! tft.w3arena.net server with good skill, anti-cheat system and no delay

[@VoOsic]

Well that was kind of boring game... Next time it should be better to watch grubby against Tod and both commentating that. And choose not so boring game

[@richardassman8944]

To be fair the first 15 minutes was tense. The last 15 minutes was intresting from a technical point of view. Watching ToD and Grubby casting Grubby VS ToD would probably be the longest orgasm I've ever had.

[@VoOsic]

Dick Assman yeah first 15 minutes were okey. But still hu vs hu i boring :) Last fight gyrocopters go fight grubby win gg it took like 10 seconds? Grubby vs anyone andd that second will comentate it from his point of view would be much better imho

[@richardassman8944]

Martin Vosáhlo So you missed that -PAUSE- action which was so great in the previous episodes. I agree they could have analyze the situation before the fight a little more deeply. It's never a bad thing.

[@torgentrampnau6143]

there are alot 2n2 with grubby and tod :) w3g.replays.net/Search.aspx?str=tod+grubby&PageNo=2

[@dinogeiten5957]

Grubby start making some more ... I run out of your episodes.. thus running out of entertainment.