S2 #11. Choosing Options for our new Leopard 45 - How you can save THOUSANDS of DOLLARS!!!

[@ZeSoundBlast]

Can't wait to see the delivery, very happy for you guys after everything that happened!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for that!

[@LawrenceBroussard]

That was nice of them to give you a break from the fire in the past. A real eye opener the cost of the additional equipment.

[@MrLebro11]

Excited for you both. After the heartache of losing your dream boat to a devastating fire it’s a joy seeing you on the home stretch & been able to see watch you both live “happily ever after’”

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Cheers KBro05, we are getting closer, I can almost smell the ocean!

[@rumblechick73]

The mark-up for options is like that for cars too. $200 for "special" custom floor mats that can be purchased aftermarket for $50. I can see spending for things that will create systems like electrical, plumbing conduits, and things that require extra drilling or cutting to have them installed later. Then it makes some sense to me. I wonder how a builder would react to the customer asking to have all the groundwork installed, but buying the actual equipment later?

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Good point Diana !

[@dja137music]

How wonderful to see your smiling faces as you wait for your new boat.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks DJA!

[@mansoornodjoumi5979]

I can feel the excitement you guys are going through as the time to get on board your new home on water draws closer, very happy for you. This was quiet an insightful video on the costs associated with buying a sailing catamaran, thanks for sharing. Looking forward to seeing you cruising the Med.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Mansoor, glad you liked it!

[@NJ-Cathie]

Love going through your thought process of outfitting your boat. Can’t wait to see it when you take sail!!!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Glad it was interesting for you - us too!!!

[@stevosan3225]

Thank you for such an open, honest and informative video. I'm in the market for my first cat and feel a bit overwhelmed by the options and choices available. Your video was very helpful. Thank you again and I'm excited that you'll soon have a new boat! Congrats!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Cheers Stevosan, yes can be a bit overwhelming with so May variables. But like anything worth while will take a little time to get your head around it. And pursuing a sailing lifestyle is well worth it. Keep watching vids it’s amazing how much info you can digest. Buy the way there is always new concepts coming on the market and even for us, we have to keep learning and up with what’s replacing what. Have fun tho that’s the main point!!!

[@stevosan3225]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Thank you again. I plan to take two Seawind cats for multi-day charters this year and am also going on a chartered cat trip with some friends who are captains in Europe. In 2023, I hope to make a purchase decision. Wish me luck! (Fair winds and following seas to you.)

[@patrickloring6914]

So exciting!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

It is!!! Thanks for supporting and hope you enjoy the journey too.

[@brynjenkins7412]

Thanks for all the openness with buying your boat and the options. Very insightful for potential boat buyers. Cannot wait to see your videos of sailing the Med!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yep us too bryn, getting closer week by week!

[@edcarbone1663]

Very exciting guys…counting down!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Ed! Thanks for your ongoing support. Are you organising a date to meet in the Med?

[@OnTheFlipSide]

That was Fantastic, 6 weeks, how exciting. Morocco looks amazing, it's one of many on my bucket list. I hope you can show us some sights while you're there?

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes, given the interest from you and others, we will probably do that! Cheers!

[@OnTheFlipSide]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Yes,, there will always be someone to complain! This is about your journey, you can't please everyone. Might as well keep busy while we wait 6 weeks.

[@larryboles629]

Spot On! You have to understand what comes with the basic boat. I was going to order a new mono hull, the base price was 760K. The boat did not come with sails add 80K, no electric winches add 40K, no electric fuerlers up front, no fureling main add 70K this went on and on. When done I was looking at 1.5 Mill. I decided against that maker. Seemed a bit like fraud to me. It is still difficult to accept that there are sailboat makers that do not include sails in their price. On the other hand there are makers like Antares Cats that includes everything sail-away to the South Pacific in their price. You got a heck of a deal with Leopard. It was nice of them to offer that big rebate, then again at 27K for a AIS system installed....... Be happy, be safe

[@peterreynolds8146]

How wonderful for you both. One can only wish you the very best as you continue your sailing adventures and life adventures.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks very much Peter for your kind words.

[@crystallimerick4787]

Seems like just yesterday you did this for the 50'. No raising swim platform sucks. Can't wait to enjoy your new adventures. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Doesn’t it thou Crystal! Some might say … how lucky you get to have all this excitement again!! 😆

[@KirkThomson]

Thanks for doing this! Great information and have a great time with your new boat.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Cheers Kirk, glad you enjoyed the episode! Hope we see you next week!

[@Kathleensailorgirl]

Awesome, so excited for you both. Stay safe ⛵️⛵️⛵️💕💕

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Cheers Kathleen, thanks for coming along on the journey!!

[@user-vv2bb7vc5v]

Congratulations. It’s about time.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes that what we think too - but we did just have to wait, all be it impatiently!

[@bill2292]

Great video! I'm part of a group of 3 soon to be Leopard 50 owners, and we talk over options regularly. We've made our own choices, but we came to the same conclusions (e.g. we are all installing our own watermaker). I bet you are excited!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Bill yes very excited, we do love the 50 but the 45 will be great for the Med! We will still keep looking for our next boat!

[@Perty6irl]

Yippeee 🥳! Watching this episode make us smile ear to ear with burst of excitement for ye. Can’t wait to learn more from ye. May you have fair winds and following seas 😊

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Heeellloooooo lovely ! Thanks for your comment. We have been travelling so missed a few comments from last week. We are sooo excited . And we still would love you to join us if that is possible at some stage before you get you beautiful 50❤️👣👣

[@Perty6irl]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Hi Eli and John! We sent you a private message on Messenger a few days ago but not sure if you receive it. Love to chat with ye. Let us know what and when is the best way to give you a bell ☎️. Hugs 🤗 - Mark, Holly and Maddie 💗

[@texogrady9576]

So happy for you guy's that good things are happening! I'm looking forward to when you film the handover, I can imagine how excited you 'both will be. We just returned from the G.C. having had an upgrade to a B&G Auto Pilot amongst other things. Having a working A.P. was exciting for me! Enjoy Morocco, I was there in 1980, I'm sure it has changed a lot since then. We are experiencing a couple of East Coast Low's, big sea's, high winds, torrential rain & flooding.....happy to swap places!!lol Enjoy!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Tex, we have a bit busy to answer but cheers for your comment. John visited Morocco 40 years ago… he said things have really changed as they would have when you were there. Might be worth another trip sometime Tex!- Eli

[@jackspears8368]

Thanks for the breakdown of your new boat. It truly is beautiful based on all the photos you provided during the video. I'm so happy for both of you! I had no idea that a base boat was so sparse. Nice that you get to add necessities like sails and a anchor. Lots of love.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for your kind words and support! There are big variations in what the base price includes so they are not all the same but that does seem to be the way they are all trending... Shame.

[@nomadstays]

Very exciting guys! Not long now!!!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes, yes yes!!!! Just can't wait...

[@nomadstays]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Are you there yet????

[@mangowalter8239]

Oh my goodness! Only 6 weeks and “we” will be sailing! Sundowners have been missed and I just can’t wait to see you both exploring the Mediterranean 😍 Your new catamaran is perfect and your option list was well thought out and perfect 👍 I’m so excited for you both and can’t wait to “pull” anchor!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Mango so busy doing the travelling thing we missed replying last week the it vid time again. Anyway hope all is good with your world!

[@westonbadke5434]

Redundancy is key in boating and RVing. So don’t be too eager to conclude that Gensets are going to be obsolete. Your main engines die, you have no way to generate electricity in a Diesel/Electric Hybrid. Solar is a problem it’s not efficient. The in water trolling generator that racing boats use. That’s a great option. It creates drag when user using it, but otherwise shouldn’t be an issue. There’s also the fuel cell system from Efoy. I’d personally go with that option.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

You are so right Weston. The advantage of cats is that you do have 2 engines already so that is your redundancy for power if on3e breaks down. We are waiting to see if Solar is completely left out (due to it's inefficiency as you say) r will they get to be better... I think the future will be to have the prop become your hydrogenerator (but that too needs increased efficiency) and we will check the Efoy fuel cell - capacities will get dramatically better in the future too - so yes, things are changing so fast in this space!

[@MrJhchrist]

Off topic, but that wall behind you is gorgeous. IDK if it's just on camera, it looks a little shinier than Tadelakt, more like a venetian plaster? Whatever, I guess getting back inside a bright white GRP bubble is the goal so I'll enjoy it while you're there!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

We think it was polished cement with a blue stain. Seems to be done a lot in Morocco with different colours and can be fine to curved surfaces too.

[@ianprice9005]

That cost of this boat is more expensive than big up market home in SA . So happy you guys are getting back on the water in May only a month away.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

That is absolutely right - buying a boat is usually the most expensive thing you buy and if you can afford a $3M house, those guys buy a $10M boat!!!!

[@TheLivabord]

very informative generally, and nice to hear your thoughts about options. best wishes for a smooth purchase.

[@jimlofts5433]

sounds good - getting closer

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for your comment again Jim! Yes, we are counting down...

[@WMCC240654]

👍 good luck with the new boat.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Bill.

[@scottgoode9874]

Hooray! Great to see you both back talking about your own boat, Again. I remember you doing this one time before.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Nice that you have been with us that long!

[@Veronicamarie1000]

I am so happy and excited for you both! I feel as if I were getting a boat myself. Please show us your shopping in Morocco. I love decorating!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Veronica sorry we are a bit late to answer last week but I hoped you enjoyed the up coming vids, will show you around the boat when it is finally ours!!!

[@BuzzSargent]

Thank you for doing this detailed video on the purchase of a new boat. It is eye-opening to see the cost of some basic needed items for a sailboat. I had no idea how much they charge. Happy Trails

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi MrBuzz thanks for joining in on the adventure!

[@jackdickerson2031]

I am so thrilled for y'all. I cannot wait to see it.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Us too! April 20th we will "see it" - at the show and all being well, take ownership early May...

[@ianh2674]

Thanks for sharing the info folks and look forward to seeing you both in the new boat.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Cheers Ian, yes we will record the event but wouldn’t it be great if you could join us virtually live!!!

[@ianh2674]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 great idea folks

[@moonraker814]

Great overview!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Moonraker, glad you liked it. Our views from our perspective but we hope the background info is useful to you all.

[@billworrell6347]

Good luck with the new boat!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Bill!

[@annehoff6]

Good luck guys thanks for sharing, would be nice to be in your shoes, still wishing you better luck with the 45, look forward to the video when you step on your new boat and give us a tour. Cheers from Cairns.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Nice to hear from locals in Cairns! Thanks for the support and comment and we are very much looking forward to stepping on the new boat too!!!!

[@ksr1991]

So excited for you both, thanks for sharing your insight into buying new!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Kim.

[@terrykeever3280]

Lots of good info and advice.

[@seawench555]

Aussie Aussie Aussie way to go, just awesome bloody great mate.🇦🇺😉😎

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks again Karlene - glad you are liking the vids! And thanks for following and commenting!

[@seawench555]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Your both very welcome, not long now and you'll have your new sweet ride, Awesome.🇦🇺🌈🌞

[@paulkopp3634]

Happy for you both so exciting. Hope the insurance saga is concluded soon . You haven’t said about insurance for the new boat , is the fact you’ve had a total loss with your previous boat a big issue regards new insurance ?

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Paul, We don't think so as the cause of the fire will be attributed externally so our insurance company should pass the cost on so we should not get the black mark. However, having never been in thissituation before, we ho[e that our logic is correct... We will see! We did get a quote that was not different from before so that is good...

[@dc71vwvw]

I'm inspired ✨

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Nice to hear!!! Even better stuff ahead we hope...

[@SVBooger]

So happy for you guys and looks great! So anxious for you. Only drawback is your not going to be in Caribbean with us

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hey guys, hopefully we can cross paths with when we get there!!!! Thanks for the support and comments!

[@FrenchNiceGuy]

I look forward to seing the next videos. Thank you for sharing your experience. I would definatly fit the AIS myself

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Glad it has helped and there is lots of savings that can be made! That $2000 for the AIS but $14000 if you are willing to fit the water maker and similar with the generator!

[@josephstevens3357]

Just caught up with you! Very interesting to listen to your thinking on the extras. I'm not 100% sure about the props that you were getting. Watched a video on the plastic props that come with the Leopard and the logic behind fitting a feathered prop. Worth watching if you haven't seen it. Good luck with the new boat - sure you will have lots of fun on it!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Joseph, glad the video was thought provoking. The std props that we got with the Leopard 50 were aluminium and only $200 to replace so we are doing the s as me with the 45. I did not see significant difference in speed when I changed from folding props to fixed props on my performance car except at speeds over 10 -12 knots and leopards are so big and heavy that I don’t believe the difference (perhaps0.5knot at most) is worth the cost ($6000) and complications you get with them... carrying less gear in board will increase your speed as much or more than folding props I would guess! If you are racing then definitely get the folding props.

[@lvdriver4]

congratulations 🎊

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Dale. We can't wait to start sailing again!

[@lvdriver4]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 I'm really looking forward to seeing that parasail in action

[@zoulilazoulila7738]

happy for you for the new boat and options. Tell us more about your Moroccan experience. First time there? show us what you bought? example of the "great value"? enjoy watching your videos. Enjoy the Meds

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Wow - another person wanting to see Morocco details. Obviously seems like we need to do a blog about it!😃

[@zoulilazoulila7738]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 a blog would be perfect :)

[@zoulilazoulila7738]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 also impressed by the wall colors in your back drop. What's the name of the hotel/Riad? is it in Marackech? Lovely colors

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

@@zoulilazoulila7738 This was a Air BNB / private house called Villa Habibi just outride Essaoura on the coast - it was lovely!

[@gebi4pejo1]

How exciting for you both, shopping for the boat in Morocco would’ve interesting 🤨❤️

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes it is - interesting, great value and unusual stuff! If there is interest, we may do an episode about it as others wanted to see more too...

[@BostonClipper]

Congrats guys. Moroccan "really good value too"... reminds me every time my wife says sale, I think sail :)

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Haha tooo funny BostonClipper, we may just have to have you come visit us on board for some good comic relief!

[@scarecrowbar3375]

Looks great, can't wait to watch you both sail off. Did you ever find the cause of the fire in your other boat?

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for watching. The fire cause is in the final stages we think and we are waiting for approval to release the fire cause but are waiting for legal approval and we still have not been paid out by insurance!

[@kptbillburkett8735]

I am so Glad ya'll will have your New Boat very soon. Now are ya'll going to get the dinghy platform ya'll had on the 50? I believe after seeing it in action before it was a Very smart thing. Easier to load and Unload the Dingy. Are ya'll going to have the wifi and solar Package ya'll had before? Man I am getting so Excited for ya'll. Ok until next week, Aloha from the Big Island of Hawaii. 🍹🥂

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for following along and supporting us Bill! They do not do the platforms for the 45s - so it is not an option - certainly for our next boat though!!! Given that this boat is only for a few years and we are sailing in the med with good phone coverage, we are not getting an internet dome and then in another few years, hopefully the Starlink will be operating to reduce the costs! We may put on a Wifi booster though (low cost relatively).

[@WillN2Go1]

Good package, smart boat. Should be terrific to sail. Digital screens in daylight can be a real problem. I was on a chartered Fontaine Pajot with a steering problem. The hydraulic steering had leaky seals so slowly turning the wheel didn't do anything, also wheel position was meaningless. There is a digital display of rudder position - but it's outboard and down around your knee(???? Who thought this was a good idea???) In daylight absolutely useless unless another person crouches down and cups their hands over it. I'd keep black foam core or maybe paint the insides of the instrument covers black, to hold up when the bright reflection wipes out the display. Black fabric will also work. Carry On Sailing (YT channel) complained that his B&G monitors keep failing. To get warranty service or replacement, you have to take them out, send them in, wait, ..... I'd look for people with similar gear and compile all the possible problems. I'll probably buy a back up monitor that I can install and use while the original is slowing going through the warranty process. (And maybe help another crew out along the way.) James on Carry On Sailing also recommends some laptop software that can display all the key information directly from the sensors if something goes wrong with the B&G or Raymarine systems/monitors. I don't mind spending extra for the builder to outfit a lot of the options. Just as you said, it saves time that could be used for sailing. But there are two other factors. First, if they install it at a 2-3x markup - not a problem if they're going to back it up. From what I've seen on KZbin and heard from sailors - they'll talk you through it on the phone - but mostly they'll just hand you off to the company. Second, if you install it yourself, you do learn a lot more about the ins and outs of your boat and equipment. A problem in a remote area won't be so bad if you've spent some time running wires and setting up gear. (But instead of the AIS transceiver, perhaps get your practice with a music system or video system.... something you can leave port without.) For my Seawind 1600 I ordered the FlexiTeek for the cockpit, but not for the foredeck. Each of these areas I calculated at +350 pounds (150kg) a lot of weight. Nick O'Kelly also pointed out that it absorbs more heat than the fiberglass and can heat up the cabins. I wanted to save weight. It is pretty and feels great on feet. Nick offers a consulting service where he went down the list of all the options, and things not on the list that I'd probably want. Terrific education. Well worth it for me. Fair winds guys.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for your detailed comments - they are all very on the mark. You must enjoy your Seawind 1600 - it is a boat that we were so close to going for with the lifting daggerboards and riddlers and outstanding sailing performance (but none available for 4 years...). Have you had good sailing on it and does it make the speeds shows on the polars? 18-22knots boat speed in 25 knots of breeze is what Ive seen in the polars and only a few knots below wind speed in low winds at the right angles... Looks spectacular! Lucky you.

[@WillN2Go1]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Thanks, haven't got it yet. Just under two more years. Almost as soon as I signed the contract at the Annapolis Boat Show (where some how I missed seeing you guys ) more and more orders came in extending the waiting period. Outremer was already 4+ years out. HH is only 18 months - if you have 3.7 million - but.... it's probably worth it! I think the 1600 polars will be changed. First those superfast polars were 'Light Ship" and they were for the first slightly narrower version of the boat. (the hulls of the Passagemaker version are now each about 100mm wider, but a little bit longer). What I think I understand from the Heavyship polars (which version???) is that the top end takes a hit. I probably won't be doing 20 knots in 25 knot winds, but I should be able to do 15-16. But down at the low end it seems that the light wind performance stays about the same.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

@@WillN2Go1 That is certainly more realistic for a cruising boat and it is still really nice to be doing 15-16 knots easily - the miles just get eaten up!!! At the end of the day it is being able to do good speeds in light airs that is the most important so you don't have to run the motor and get to your destination in good time.... Shame we missed you at Annapolis last year! Yes we were on Wanderlust in the last few days of the show.

[@WillN2Go1]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 I'm not sure how often performance cats actually get those kind of speeds over hours or long distances. What I've been able to figure out is that performance cats are to cruising cats what cruising cats are to monohulls - no one is above 10 knots very often. The expensive carbon performance magic is maybe 2 knots. But your second part, light airs is probably more what's gained by performance cats - the ability to use the engines much less.

[@andymarshall2201]

Hi John, you mentioned a mechanism for charging 10KW in an hour, I am slightly confused, what technology do you mean. I was devastated for you with the loss of Ultra Dash, I am so glad you have both come out the other side with a new boat to look forward to. Love all your videos. Take care Andy

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Andy. I was referring to DC chargers that have 5 or 10KW output - they put the charge directly into the batteries at 12, 24 or 48V and if you have a large Lithium bank, the 10KW will be taken up in one hour. 10Kw of power will last a long time and now run the efficient Acs overnight, we understand. With only minimal engine use (eg in and out of anchorages) you can take your batteries to full without any extra running time!

[@andymarshall2201]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Thanks John, that’s kind of you to explain. Looking forward to you taking delivery of dare I say Ultimate Dash 😜

[@kirkb3473]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Technology has definitely changed the dynamics of power generation on boats of the future. We are going with the Integrel Solutions that will charge up to 18kW with a 25kWH capacity Lithium battery bank. Compliment that with a couple thousand watts of solar and you've got one really "green" sailing machine! Love the Leopard 45, such a phenomenal platform for cruising the Med!

[@johnhoag2171]

I was wondering if you were going to have a video on the outcome of the 50 footer and the insurance?

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes we will when there is an outome! Painful isbn't it - no insurance payout yet and legal processes still under way.... We will share when we can but to reiterate, the cause of the fire was NOT because of any fault in the Leopard 50 AT ALL!

[@bill2292]

Which parasail did you buy? Parasail or Oxley or Wingaker?

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Oxley....

[@DaveHines1]

It’s a bit like kiddies writing out their Xmas present list 🤪🤣🤣🤣😃🍻🥂

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Ha ha! Yes just a bit more expensive than a trike! We like Christmas!

[@DaveHines1]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 but your Xmas is only 6 weeks away 😃😃🍻🥂

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

@@DaveHines1 Wooo Hoooo!!!!👏👏

[@westonbadke5434]

Artificial teak is also cooler on your feet when in hot climate, compared to real teak wood.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

You know your stuff Weston!!

[@suzanneouimet6977]

And you got the bucks

[@paulgilliland2992]

The options game . Just like buying a new BMW , $55k base price but an additional $20k in factory installed options that you may not want or need . It’s a shame really but what to do?

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Exactly Bill - make your choices and just suck it up.....

[@sallyfolds230]

Hi Guys, your total was that AUD or USD ? Good luck with the new Leopard :)

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Sadly Sally, al those figures are US$!!!! Add 30% to get AU$ with the exchange rate around 75c.

[@robinspat]

I recall seeing Okellys remove their gen off their Leopard 46 Clarity

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes that is correct - similar idea, just bigger DC chargers are now becoming available...

[@keithb2338]

Maybe a stupid question, but you said in this video that the season is only six months in the Med. Can you not sail year round in the Med?

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Keith, The med in the winter is cold and stormy and while yo can sail some days, most cruisers take their boats out of action (marinas or on the hard) from late Oct / Nov to April.... We are from tropical Queensland so do not tolerate the cold well either and have no plans of trying to be tough - we want life to be pleasant....

[@keithb2338]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Thanks for the info, I totally understand you not wanting to be around the cold. Where I live in Saskatchewan, Canada, it routinely gets down to -45 C or lower with the wind chill. 🥶

[@MrCoyote928]

How does the upper lounge on the 45 L compared to the 50 L? What size engine are you getting on the Leopard 45?

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hey guys - the upper deck is slightly smaller on the 45 but still more than enough space for 6-8 people and usually is only the 2 (or4) of us. The engines are 56HP Yanmars.

[@tedconrad6995]

what about the recent bulkhead failing issues ? do I have the correct mfg ?

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hey Ted, not that was only on the Lagoon 450. The bulkheads in the Leopards are really strong and have taken a pounding without breaking in various situations we have known about.

[@ianprice9005]

Wow the add on s are over the top I battle to under stand how expensive they are when the SA rand is 15 to the USD so that basic boat is R9.2 million rands mind blowing and the generator is half a million rand.😳😳🙈

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Ian, Yes then mark ups for convenience are the the area the manufacturers make a lot of their money, it seems... Robertson and Caine are charging Western world prices and not SA prices for sure!

[@vincentRivedoux]

When will you get it ?

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

We first see it at the Grand Motte boat show as a display boat for Leopard last week of April. Then hand over after boat show first few days of May after they move it and clean. We will record the events for you guys Vincent.

[@mitchellmccaffery4220]

Hi people did you see the new high power alternators one of the cat channels put on their boat with lithium batteries they got rid of their generator

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes this is the sort of thing we are talking about but we have come across DC generators that operate like alternators on the engine that generate 5-10KW per hour - staggering. Most of the others are "high power" but these just blow the usual one out the water! Once you have enough generation with the generator, it goes over the side!

[@robinspat]

New hazard … Russian Mines coming untethered and floating away… Guys you might want to reconsider having the fish tracking sonar 👀 🤣🎈

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

LOL!

[@raybeattie5802]

A bit of a difference from a McGregor! Think you won’t get lost! 🆘🤪

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

We hope we will Ray! What luxury ahead for us!!! You always appreciate things more when they are taken away...

[@johnsummers9434]

Why did you downgrade to a 45? Was it delivery and or cost? Reconsider the folding props, they make a world of difference

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hit John, we 'downgraded' because there were no new Leopard 50s available for few miles and the second hand ones were more expensive than the new ones! We have had folding props in the past and I was not convinced of the difference unless you are looking to sail fast (over 10 knots) - comparing when the were on and off. We also had several break, fall off and have locked in Allen nuts etc - not good experiences but with a performance cat, I would do it.

[@johnsummers9434]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Sounds like you've had bad experience with folding props. I've both 2 blade and 3 blade the latter were Bruntons Propellers on a cruising catamaran. I reckoned an increase of 1 to 1.5 knots, not much but soon adds up on long cruise. Plus it gave me better fuel consumption and more trust in astern. Anyway happy tress free cruising.

[@AORD72]

The tiny navigation screens are pathetic. Cheaper to buy a large computer monitor. Greatcircle has a good main screen (32" wide-screen?). Tablets would be better than the Raymarine and BnG screens, portable and easy to replace.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Absolutely! The cost they charge for those is ott!

[@walkerig1]

Considering Sailing Uma have successfully proved fully electric boats work all the way up to the far north of the Arctic Circle and that their regen from their sail drive is sufficient to top up their batteries while sailing in the far north, I think the days of fossil fuels in sailing are ending. As you point out all electric off the grid sailing is becoming more and more the way to go. I think within 5 years buying a major manufactures diesel engine sailboat will disappear from the market.

[@jakeski3142]

*Elon Musk has entered the chat*

[@jspafford]

You guys gotta get a mic if you want to do these videos. There are so many good mic options for very little money these days from mini shotguns to lavs that record right to the pack you wear (no wireless issues). Your sound is horrible. Hard to hear understand. Sounds like you’re on another planet. Amateur doesn’t even start to describe. Not watching anymore. One less premium member.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Johnathan sorry to hear your comment. We did use a good quality rode mic, the problem is often having to record inside in this instance as was rainy and windy out, and we were in a concrete Moroccan house, kind of just a concrete box with a lot of acoustic feed back. We can only work with the resources we have at the time. Better to have a video release than none. The other thing is that our this video was a real time release, which means being current, on the spot and not watching episodes that are far behind real time and out of date. Thanks for your feed and your support to date, will take it on and continue to try and improve in the future, all the best.

[@robinspat]

Walkthrough - gear etc leopard 46 after 5 years modification by liveaboards O’Kelly’s Clarity Worth a look at her to see what they ended up with having evolved their cat over last 5 odd years O’Kelly’s Clarity kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnbXfaSVqcyhfbM

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes we follow the O'Kellys and they undoubtedly will go to the bigger more powerful system when they upgrade to a new boat too!

[@sallyfolds230]

you bought a dog and are now looking for a new boat? Production cats are fundamentally dogs and only the unsuspecting buy them

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

It is all about the compromise in relation to all the features and of course with the comfort you lose performance.... Having said that, in the first 6 months cruising the Med, we only filled the tanks once and have half tanks at the end so at least the Leopards are able to sail in light winds (4 knots in 6knots wind / 7knots in 10 knots) and go upwind which is more than can be said of the other big brands.... There is always a compromise but we realised we want more so are heading to get a custom built boat of the future - Portofino 52