S2000 Ballade Sports Titanium Exhaust | How it Compares to the Stainless Version

Today we swap out Quinn's 70mm Ballade Stainless Steel single exit Cat-Back for Ballade Sport's new Titanium version! How different will it be minus the obvious weight savings?...
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[@davidmccaughan2710]

Fun video! Glad I know how hard you guys work, from the channel one might get the impression all you guys do is swap car parts and hoon!

[@TheSlipAngle]

In a perfect world lol

[@bane2]

It sounds so good! Way to make me go for an unplanned rip in the S2K midday Wednesday Quinn!

[@TheSlipAngle]

Yeah buddy!

[@KuyaOly]

Enjoyed watching the video. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@TheSlipAngle]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Glad you get mics, more rx8 content🙏

[@3991melkoun]

I love how Quinn is saying he is spoiled by speed. While years ago he was saying he has to get rid of his z06 to not ruin how he thinks about his Miatas. I guess power isn’t everything but power to weight is

[@TheSlipAngle]

Once you know, you can't un-know ;)

[@Gchang54]

​@@TheSlipAngleignorance is bliss!!

[@Ottobon]

Good or bad, right or wrong, size and shape does play some of the biggest role in how a engine sounds by far, but material type used even comparing regular steel to stainless makes a difference. In previous example you can find some good examples in classic car market where there are simply stainless replacement of stock systems. Gases are resonating all around so depending on material type usually what you notice is more or less rasp, extreme example is old fiberglass cherrybomb style drag mufflers vs what is for all intensive purposes same thing in bullet series stainless straight through mufflers, but even if it was only the pipes changes and the muffler/resonator etc all remained the same you can hear the difference between any different type of material. This one sounds pretty nice but if i had a complaint or at least something to look out for with Titanium is many of the lightest weight, super thin gauge stuff can but not always has a higher tendency to rasp, sometimes in worst cases very badly, luckily this does not appear to be one of them (although there is some, rasp, some is good imo)

[@louKushh]

I swear, the outside clips have a slightly different pitch/tone. maybe even a bit louder. sounds super sweet 👌🏾🤌🏾

[@TheSlipAngle]

They are close but that is what we have observed also

[@AnotherMotorist]

Considered buying either the dual or single in ti but have read and heard ti exhaust will eventually develop cracks by nature of material. Not sure if myth but google search and people I have talked to have experienced it. On top of that ti welders are not often come by. Looks and sounds so good

[@TheSlipAngle]

Ballade had the weak point addressed in the titanium units from what I was told

[@Blanco_Brad]

Whats that carbon piece at the bottom of your rear bumper? I really like it and would like to possibly locate one. Big fan of your vids and all the tech talks. One of my new favorite channels since i just bought s AP1 a few weeks ago.

[@TheSlipAngle]

HeelToe Automotive makes it. We did a video on it a little ways back.

[@rgled10260]

About time there was some more S2000 content. Missed it man. Can you do gears next and let us know the outcome ha

[@TheSlipAngle]

The car's low end with the Ballade stuff is so much better than it was before that I don't think I'm even going to touch gearing at this point. I don't want to sacrifice highway cruise

[@rgled10260]

@@TheSlipAngle supercharger it is then 😉

[@Samurai6936]

@@TheSlipAngle I've got all the ballade stuff and tuned with 4.44's and the gears make a huge difference in fun factor and always staying higher up in the rev range. I am however cruising at around 4800 rpm at 80mph tho. But who cares imo, I hardly ever cruise on the fwy for too long. This car is built to rip

[@madsupervilian.]

I still watch.these videos, even though I don't own an S2k any longer. 997.2 now, still miss the cost and performance cross point of the S,

[@TheSlipAngle]

That's pretty interesting to hear! 997.2's are really nice!

[@richardly438]

It sounds so exotic. What set of wheels are you running?

[@TheSlipAngle]

Advan RG2's

[@richardly438]

@@TheSlipAngle thank you!

[@adamcarson9134]

I realize that this question is old and WAY off of topic, but do you remember the part number that you ordered for the Daikei hub adapter for your rx8? Thanks in advance

[@TheSlipAngle]

I do not. It was advertised for the RX-8

[@jiurriza]

How did you get it so early. Ballade's website states they estimate shipping for October?

[@TheSlipAngle]

Helping out with the stress testing

[@neilobusk]

sorry guys missed this one... its crazy how you sort of have to have silencers for guns.... yet can have exhausts as noisy as this.. couple of old guys in an s2000 always a good thing..... and yes more raw things..... great vid N x

[@bobbyrios2k223]

Beautiful exhaust, but your playin with the devil 😂

[@johnconnor7501]

Why?

[@LetContinueee]

@@johnconnor7501ballade sports products are trash😂

[@FATmenDRIVEtrucks]

Stroker 2.4, ITB's, and Ballade Race header all that's left lol

[@TheSlipAngle]

lol

[@Becausepilot]

Hey dude, love the channel. I just saw DIYGuys did a review about the SS having muffler failures (primarily with tracked cars) and I was curious if you have seen any of these issues. I pre-ordered the TI exhaust and am curious if it will be built different (I accept the uncertainty and am not interested in a refund). Just reaching out to see your thoughts. Your experience and opinion is valuable to me. Thanks

[@TheSlipAngle]

The welds are supposed to beefed up on most newer versions of the exhaust. We might cut my Ti version open for a video to confirm that's the case.

[@crxvtec0069]

Not surprising. Their parts are all copied designs made in China 😂

[@Sleetui]

@@TheSlipAngleOh looking forward to seeing a video like that. Would be great to see what could be done to fix the rattling if it ever happens.

[@elliot438bcfcVTEC]

Sounds a bit similar to my J's 70RS titanium. I've not dynod mine but the car feels a lot faster than stock exhaust. Probably down to the system only weighing 9lbs!!

[@TheSlipAngle]

Do you still have a cat in your car?

[@elliot438bcfcVTEC]

@@TheSlipAngle no cat and some unbranded 421 manifold, I believe is japspeed

[@jmirsp4z]

light is right!

[@TexMexThe3rd]

Quinn, now you need to invest in the intake! Definitely needs the ITBs now! Not mentioning that it might help with the weight reduction too! Specially in the wallet!

[@TheSlipAngle]

Ugh the struggle lol. The car is pretty damn good as is right now so it's hard to justify going through all the headache of tuning the ITBs and making them streetable.

[@repingers9777]

​@@TheSlipAngle itbs are super unnecessary but a big loud intake on Hondas is always a huge win

[@accord_aero_r]

Hmm, time to drop the S2000 off at LHT for a supercharger? Haha. Car sounds amazing, though. Might be slow, but there's just something about a high-strung 4cyl with a well-tuned exhaust.

[@TheSlipAngle]

F20C was meant to be naturally aspirated :)

[@Jeff_F7]

@@TheSlipAngle And it's definitely not slow, at least IMO. Throttle response has a huge effect on fun factor. I agree. I don't think I would ever do a supercharger on an S2000.

[@siunkle]

How was the Ballade packaging for the titanium exhaust? Well protected for shipping overseas do you think?

[@Marc-ty5sz]

The real s2k community knows Ballade doesnt stand beind their product nor do they support the community. Having some youtube "influencers" slap their crap on for some positivity review wont change that. They got their fair amount of chances from the commnuity, if they dont change then they will never change. Be prepare for a let down if you get anthing from them.

[@Ap2_dc2_007]

@@Marc-ty5sz really, what’s the issue you have with them? I yet to purchase anything from them. I thought they had a great reputation and I also thought they are a big company.

[@Jeff_F7]

@@Marc-ty5sz Well, you might want to elaborate on why you or others in the community feel this way rather than just spurting out a negative claim without much else, otherwise it just sounds like sour grapes perhaps from your own personal experience which might have been an isolated one. What you're saying might indeed be true, but it would be hard for someone to believe you unless you can back up your claims. Or at least provide a link to the forums (or other sources) where others in the s2k community are saying this. There are many viewers here who are not part of the "s2k community" and aren't going to bother trying to spend the time searching the internet to verify your claim. So if you want people to believe you, you should be the one to provide the source where people reading your comment can see what you're talking about. Just a friendly suggestion.

[@crxvtec0069]

Be careful buying from them it might arrived damaged and then Ballade will blame you for it saying it’s your fault 😂

[@darth420vader]

Are they already being shipping out? Thought they were still doing pre-order?

[@TheSlipAngle]

They are on pre-order. This is a pre-production sample we are testing.

[@darth420vader]

@@TheSlipAngle Lucky!! I have been eye balling it, sounds like it is going to be a limited run as well.

[@subse7enx]

Who makes that resonator test pipe or HFC?

[@TheSlipAngle]

T1R and it's a resonator

[@TheDjlisgo]

How’s the clearance for rear bar?

[@TheSlipAngle]

it's good. no issues!

[@terminator2149]

sounds like you need a little extra fuel on startup

[@RobertMeany]

Were you still looking for someone with scales? I'm local and have some corner balance pads if you're interested...

[@TheSlipAngle]

Hey Robert, let's connect via email to set something up! [e-mail]

[@RobertMeany]

@@TheSlipAngle Hey there! Yep, I did.. wasn't sure if that was the best way to reach ya

[@atotalpro]

No the first titanium exhaust on a car for Quinn. I believe the Z06 had one.

[@TheSlipAngle]

Mine had an aftermarket stainless steel axleback when I bought it used lol

[@atotalpro]

@@TheSlipAngle oh, man. That must have been a bummer.

[@IS300Spartan]

Titanium headers when? 😉

[@TheSlipAngle]

When @balladesports makes them :)

[@MangoTheTango_]

what are those wheels?

[@TheSlipAngle]

Advan RG2

[@johnlombert2802]

He said ass2000 cuz I’ve heard it a million times 😂 can’t tell, giving loral vibes

[@elliot438bcfcVTEC]

I weighed my 70rs with kitchen scales😂

[@1MADZ]

SAME PITCH BUT DIFFERENCE IN RESONANCE

[@maxymillion7480]

Don't think ITB's are worth it, but I do think a stroker is.

[@TheSlipAngle]

If my F20C block gets tired I'd consider going to a 2.2L

[@micThurrr]

100 bucks mattchew gets an s2000 and puts on the steel exhaust.

[@TheSlipAngle]

lol I think he wants an ND so we can touge battle

[@69Will]

You selling the other exhaust?

[@TheSlipAngle]

Not at this time