S2E3 Amazing Virtual Pinball VPX Tables You Can’t Play if You Don't Build Your Own VP! Don’t MISS!

[@moxxichannel5950]

While buying a consumer digital pinball machine like the Arcade1Up Marvel, Star Wars or Attack From Mars cabinets, ATGAMES Legends Pinball, or ToyShock pinball, makes sense due to convenience and price, you’ll be missing out on some amazing VPX virtual pinball tables. Yes, it’s more expensive but if you can, building a VP is rewarding and gives you access to the very best the hobby of virtual pinball has to offer.

[@usmcculp]

You can mod all of those to play VPX

[@moxxichannel5950]

@@usmcculp Not exactly. You’d need a hefty PC already to play VPX & PBFX3, which means you probably have a working VP - for example like me - I have a working 3 screen VP with buttons but without an actual cabinet but I wouldn’t mod one of these to play mine because I’m running a 43” 4K play field and I would be severely downgrading my visuals.

[@Emolga6274]

Most people have no clue how to build this

[@moxxichannel5950]

@@Emolga6274 I didn’t know how either but I wanted one soooooo badly that I spent a year researching it to figure out how to do it. Then read a ton of posts, watched hours of videos...and prepared. It was easier than I imagined.

[@Don_30.87]

@@Emolga6274 it's certainly a challenge, alot of research , one bite at a time, but lots of info available out there. Go for it bro!

[@Zehrfox]

I built my own vpin 2 years ago, and I have over 300 tables on it...... and yet YOU showed me several tables I had never seen, and now I am going to add them to my vpin. Instant like and sub from me! - THANKS!

[@moxxichannel5950]

Glad you liked it and found some new tables! I’m in the process of responding to your thoughtful & welcome comments/suggestions on Pt.3. Thank you!

[@Zehrfox]

@@moxxichannel5950 I played 6 new tables that you showed, and i LOVED them - thanks again!

[@tonymorello8914]

Thanks for showing us what is available. Because I'm older, I really get off on the older EM games from the 50's, 60's, and 70's. What is "retro" and "vintage" is all relative. Why do you say the only way to enjoy the Visual Pinball games is to build a cabinet yourself? Aren't there plenty of manufacturers building virtual pinball cabinets now?

[@moxxichannel5950]

I also love the EM games. Granted they do tend to become a little more on the "me too" end of things where they start to look like they were all made with the same playfield, but to me, the bells of those pinballs ARE pinballs to me. When I play the 70s tables with the muted electronic sounds from the Pop Bumpers, I just don't feel it. But the artwork and the sounds are primary and the gameplay to me is completely secondary on an EM table. What I meant in regards to building your own is, quite honestly, lots of things from minor to major, can go wrong on a VP machine and if you assemble it yourself (installing the software, downloading the tables, roms and back glasses, getting the screens working and wiring up some buttons for flippers, plunger, coins and start) you will have a MUCH better chance of solving an issue when one arises. Not IF one arises, WHEN. If you're thinking of purchasing an Arcade 1Up or even an AtGames Legends Pinball, those really pale in comparison to what a VP can do. If you're investigating purchasing a pre-made VP from VirtuaPin or Kijiji etc. then certainly, that is a way to go. It will be several thousand and just make sure you're not paying for the software....that should be ALL free - as the authors don't charge for it and neither should anyone selling the machines.

[@justimagine2403]

Yes I am building one. There are a lot more parts than I thought! Love having so many tables to choose from in addition to the real pinball tables I already own.

[@moxxichannel5950]

That’s awesome you have real tables! Maybe one day for me…but I doubt it! So pricey! Enjoy!

[@justimagine2403]

@@moxxichannel5950 Also, ROMS and certain vpins are now lost due to copyright pulls. Jersey Jack and Gottlieb roms are gone. I am gladly selling off my real pins for quadruple or more of what I paid. Kind of insane but I can use the money right now.

[@AJerseyJohnnyEntertainment]

You can play all these on my atgames table using my pc via OTG mode. I understand what you meant but Just saying you can play all these games for just buying a atgames pinball table for $749 or whatever it costs. Only thing is the playfield is only 1080p not 4k.

[@stephenbeagle2239]

What a cool idea to make certain tables look vintage.

[@moxxichannel5950]

They really do look cool! I love when VPX authors go the extra mile.

[@licoricewhip]

Here I am, trying to collect all historically-significant tables, thinking I've got 'em all... and I missed Star-Jet! Thanks for the tip-off.

[@moxxichannel5950]

Glad you found it! There are so many classic tables, every once in awhile I find another one I used to play. I’m trying, for the most part, to add tables I remember rather than “collecting them all” and suffering from VP Bloat”.

[@licoricewhip]

@@moxxichannel5950 I'm bloated for sure. Trying to hit 999 tables but have stalled. It's amazing how many tables start with S. When I'm flipping through them, it takes forever to get through the S's. I think one out of every seven tables start with S.

[@painlesstragedy]

they'll make a comeback these pinball games and emus!

[@moxxichannel5950]

Now with consumer VP products out there, it’s starting to enter the mainstream, although they’re still pretty “niche”.

[@ChicagoRetroGamer]

Super cool video. Love these machines!

[@moxxichannel5950]

I’d love to own every one of these as a real pinball table but I just don’t have the technological smarts to care for one. That and the fact I might be able to afford two to three really old ones. The new ones? $15K CDN. Nope!

[@ChicagoRetroGamer]

@@moxxichannel5950 WOW, there are few people that have that kind of extra cash and extra time. Still a super cool video!

[@mrg466]

Batman, was all I was waiting for!

[@moxxichannel5950]

Was it worth the wait? I love that table! Got to meet Adam West twice in my life, so to me, he’s MY Batman.

[@mrg466]

@@moxxichannel5950 Hell yeah! You got to meet The Bat,...how cool is that?! Great,...I wish I had that table too! Furthermore, I would love to see a video game, based off the 1960's Batman show! That would be awesome!

[@lowellcunningham3332]

I use VR quite a lot and have never had any issues, but watching this video has made me appreciate what sufferers of VR vertigo go through! The content is really good, but the camera movement over the play fields is too fast and veers in a disconcerting way. I'm trying to appreciate the tables as much as you obviously do -- and more leisurely camera movement would help. Legends Pinball supports input from a computer, so it's possible some of these tables might be playable on the Atgames machine. Video to the back panel isn't supported by the stock table, but there are work-arounds. Some people add an additional monitor, some have done hardware hacks, and Atgames has their own add-on board (which is currently sold out.)

[@moxxichannel5950]

You’re right, I do speed through the “flyovers”. Video watch retention is at an all time low, where rarely anyone sticks around for anything. If I make a 10 minute video people watch 3 minutes. If I make a 3 minute video they watch 1 minute. I can’t win!

[@jorgemagana5051]

Great job! Which version is Humpty Dumpty? I haven't found for VPX, just for Future Pinball, the colors that show the one in your video are amazing! It would be nice if you add in your videos the versions of the tables you're using. Thanks!

[@raspberrymintendo2171]

Which exact version of Addams Family was that? The Fester toy looks so good on this one...nice video

[@retroamusementsnl4780]

Great review! What do you suggest for the best pc hardware setup to get the ultimate VPC experience? Thanks! Chris

[@nervouzzzzz]

Is there a virtual machine with these games? If not which machine ypu recomme d to add these games? I love pinball , played during late 70s and 80s ,how much do these cost? Can someone give me some hints? Tks

[@moxxichannel5950]

Without building the actual cabinet, mine cost me approximately: Windows Gaming PC ($850), 32” RCA TV backglass ($300), 43” 4K play field ($250), 19” ViewSonic Monitor DMD ($150). It’s important to note that the PC will most likely be double due to the graphics card Nvidia GTX1070, but the monitors/TVs can be a lot less. Also I used as TV “Mount It” to hang the TV for the backglass on the wall (as I haven’t built the cabinet yet). Then another $35 for the arcade buttons & zero delay USB controller board (arcade flipper buttons etc plug into this board and go into your PC). There are consumer digital pinballs available from ATGames, ToyShock & Arcade1Up but you’ll only get a handful of games. You can buy home built ones on FaceBook Marketplace or kijiji or from RecRoom Masters and VirtuaPin but no games are included. Learning the software is very important and you should never pay for VPX games as they are re-created by the VP community. Paying for Pinball FX3 tables on Steam is legit however.

[@KerryTheKid]

Love Batman 66

[@gordonblack4920]

Can these pinball games be played on a desktop computer?

[@moxxichannel5950]

Hey Gordon, absolutely they could. You’d still need a decently powerful PC, but since you wouldn’t be running 2 or 3 screens your graphics card could be less powerful. Most of the tables come without “cabinet mode” enabled so they’d look like a console pinball game, with the playfield in the center and areas to the right & left reserved for backglass/DMD.

[@suplrist4437]

The Atgames cabinet can do all of these tables through Arcadenet local play or OTG mode. Just sayin.

[@moxxichannel5950]

Yes and No. There is a caveat to what you're saying. The ATGames Legends cabinet will not RUN these natively, it will act as a monitor and controller to your PC that has the horsepower to run these (and will plug in via HDMI into the AtGames), which means, you'll already have a PC powerful enough to RUN VPX and you'll have already spent the time configuring VPX, VPinMAME, Ultra DMD, PinUp Player etc. Which wait a sec, is pretty great. But for example, I don't have a cab yet (I do have it set up as a cab with buttons etc), but I have a 3 screen setup with a 43" 4K playfield. Do I want to plug that into the ATgames cabinet and play at a lower resolution and frame rate? No, not really. Most people who are already running VPX have their setup going - but maybe not everyone. ATGames does want to make interfacing your VPX enabled PC easy to work - and I think that's pretty awesome. Obviously ATGames can't package VPX with their pinball as that's not what the VPX community is about - but, and I'm a huge thumbs upper for ATGames Legends Pinball already, for someone who does have the PC and the software ready and just needs a cabinet, that's mighty awesome and a total game changer. Thanks for commenting - and if I'm wrong in what I've said, please correct me.

[@suplrist4437]

@@moxxichannel5950 no your pretty much on the money. I’m not saying anyone would/should gut their Vpin. You can build a PC that will run VPX and the commercial apps for about $200-300, $700 shipped for Atgames, you’re all in for a grand or less. You’d be hard pressed to build your own for that. I think the new “toy” vPins are just going to be the cheap entry point for a lot of folks.

[@moxxichannel5950]

@@suplrist4437 I don't think you can build a PC rig that'll run VPX for $300. The graphics card alone (especially now) will set you back hundreds if you want a 2-3 screen set up. I got mine last year for a steal but today I'd pay probably double for the same thing due to the market. But I am in Canada where everything is $$$ so if you were running VPX in 1080p or even 720p with one screen at 30fps, maybe you actually could build one for that. At that resolution a person would probably be better off buying the A1up or AtGames.

[@leodonnelly5427]

Last year I built a PC to play all these games on a rotating 50-in 4K display with two other screens and it cost me about $600 running a GTX 1660 super. Now that I got my Atgames legend pinball machine, I play exclusively on it. I currently have it set up for three screens. I have plans to mod it for four screens. I also have plans to start putting together a full size wide body cabinet.

[@MsKonkeyDong]

How did you film the tables when they’re sideways?

[@colinthames7528]

There’s Windows 10 recording software built in that does it. I can’t member what it is but it’s like Xbox Record or something

[@moxxichannel5950]

In Windows 10 it's called Game Bar. If you press the Windows Button + Alt it'll bring up the app. If you press Win + Alt + R it'll just start recording. It's wonderful MKD!

[@MarchosArcade]

There are some real great tables there I do love Gemini nice table , I sub you & another like from me bro !

[@bigalexg]

Just stumbled on this. How does a total noob get started in this?

[@tmorelli1982]

What panel are you using for the playfield?

[@moxxichannel5950]

I have a 43” 4K TCL as my playfield. It’s great but an ASUS 4K monitor running at 120hz is the dream...

[@orangebird-girl3148]

Wish I knew how to build those.

[@nerdloftgaming]

I just picked up the AtGames Pinball for $450 locally this past month. If you shop around, you can find them for a huge discount.

[@retropug]

Great Vid! I've been interested in vpinball for years. I have a 3 screen cab that I've had " partially" working for awhile but no real cool bells and whistles. What do you consider pc specwise the minimum requirements to run a 4k vpin cab? I've been advised you really don't need a really strong cpu but your gpu needs to be fairly strong.

[@moxxichannel5950]

I’m only thinking VPX, but you should definitely have an i5, 1070 GTX w minimum 6GB (3 screen setup), at bare minimum 8GB DDR4 3ghz RAM and a T1 SSD. Maybe you could get by with less but I think it would be dicey especially on the tables running Puppacks etc.

[@canadaphil6068]

@@moxxichannel5950 I really appreciate your vids. I am.hoping to get "started" soon if my 3-1/2 month long wait for my Brick pre-order for an atgames LP ever pans out any time soon. Geeeeesh I plan on taking some of the guts from an Alienware Aurora R8 I scored on Ebay from a GTA seller for $500! (No GPU) He then listed an R7 and I picked that one up too! Haha (I collect old Dell XPS and Alienware stuff) Im going to upgrade the Alienware R8 to an I9-9900K with new 3200 RAM and a liquid cooler and take the current i5-9400 and 16GB of slower RAM and basic fan cooler out of the R8 and a new 128GB M.2 ssd and pop it into a cheap new Asus mobo from Canada Computers to begin my test board rig for OTG connection with the Atgames ALP. GPU choice?... Geez none to be had but I think I will try to get a 12GB RTX 3060 when they arrive at Canada Computers??.. $550 ish I hope?... or will settle for a 6GB anything??.... Lol.. Fing miners! 😋

[@moxxichannel5950]

@@canadaphil6068 Thanks LiveWire! I appreciate the kind words! Any word on your ATGames? I’m glad I bought my PC last year when I did because Graphics cards went nuts in terms of pricing. Everyone keeps saying they’ll drop next year but what if you don’t want to wait? Let me know if you get that rig going!

[@canadaphil6068]

@@moxxichannel5950 Hey, how are you. Yes, I do finally have my ALP now. I picked it up from the Brick on Wednesday. I have added the Full Zaccaria bundle was well so there are currently 127 Tables on it. This thing is pretty amazing. It will take me months to explore just what I have so far! Haha I was also able to put in an order for the optional backglass switching board. (Rec'd the confirmation and tracking so its on its way) The GPU situation is just crazy. I'm going to probably contact Canada Computers and see if they will let me place a "pre-order" for a 12Gb RTX 3060. I really intend for that to be the backbone of my revamped Alienware. In the meantime I will probably just start putting together my new test rig to start getting things ready. I was just going to start with FX3, but apparently FX4 is just around the corner so maybe I should wait??

[@Don_30.87]

@@canadaphil6068 hi buddy, if you use steam, the Zaccaria tables as a package go on sale periodically, and Zen pinball also . Quite worth it.

[@colinthames7528]

I know these are virtual but my brain still thinks they’re real. 🤯 What are you running 4K?

[@moxxichannel5950]

Yeah, I picked up a refurb TCL 43" 4K from Walmart last year at this time. Still works great. I agree with you and I don't mean that in a boastful way. When I show people video on my phone of VPX and tell them it's virtual and just tvs, they don't know how to respond. I'll show them a few and they'll say "How many pinball machines do you have?"

[@Tossphate]

Have a look at a VP with BAM + headtracking enabled

[@RogerDiotte]

Holy crap...cockroaches wow...FIRST! So how the hell do I start getting myself these holy! I'll dig around now! So I play WillamsFX and am in a group that plays in tourneys with that but I'll ask a fellow player as he has VPX...Anyways thanks and also from Northern Ontario!

[@happydupa]

Great content and excellent voice over, but dude.... your camera work bouncing all over the table gave me motion sickness half way through the video. Please, buy a tripod and use it.

[@lukewignall9947]

Good but not the same as the real thing

[@themusiccellar5229]

Agreed, I mean, I don’t think any VP’er would argue that point. But it does scratch that itch, quite well. Real pinball is like watching a blockbuster summer movie on the silver screen while VP is like watching it on your tv at home. Depending on the home theatre setup, it’ll be a similar experience but yet lacking when compared to the real deal.

[@moxxichannel5950]

I’m envious of anyone who has a few real tables but I know deep down (actually I know pretty shallow down) that I couldn’t afford ANY tables that I love, at least where I live. It’s all collectors and prices are in the upper thousands for mid 80s and up tables. So VP is it until that lottery ticket pays off.

[@Darwinion]

I agree, it's not the same. But it's not inferior either. Given the choice between spending ~6K for a mint Attack From Mars table... or the 4K VPX cab I built for 1.5K which has 300 tables (including Attack From Mars) then it's a no brainer. Only old guys who are died in the wool pinball junkies from years gone by will say otherwise.