S3E25 | Shawn Baker, M.D. | Let's Talk About MEAT!

[@JennifertxCarnivore]

Dr. Baker is one of my carnivore doctors! Dr. Chaffee is another, as well as Dr. Berry. I have to post my healing list here from being carnivore! I can’t add any plants to my diet or things I healed will come back. I have been more lion version of carnivore. I at times may up my animal saturated fats around cycle time, but that is it. I don’t eat organs except maybe a little once or twice a year. I can’t eat chicken and pork due to farmers feeding them soy and corn instead of bugs- and those animals don’t have ruminant stomachs like a cow or lamb. I only eat ruminant meat! My cholesterol went up on carnivore -so I am a Lean Mass Hyper Responder! I am 5’7” and 19.5 BMI with all markers or LMHR. (High LDL, Low Triglycerides, and High HDL.) Carnivore has healed so much for me! I started off carnivore in hopes to reverse my fibrocystic breast masses that have built up over 6 years eating half a dry skinless chicken breast piece a day with half cup of broccoli and little bit of wheat noodles. We are told don’t eat very much meat- so the world is almost vegan just about. I would eat red canbbage too- cooked it and ate cabbage about 3 times a week. That was about it. So I was mainly chicken, broccoli, and little wheat noodles. So from age 40-46 I started getting all that “aging” health issue mess- and the fibrocystic breast “disease” started and kept building up! When I hit age 46 I was done with it! The fibrocystic masses were getting me scares- and I started getting huge painful breast cysts too! One was around 2” long and 1” wide! Docs would say, “we don’t know what causes fibrocystic breasts disease” and “fibrocystic breasts is now normal because everyone is getting it” and “fibrocystic breast could turn into cancer” and “there is nothing you can do for fibrocystic breasts” and “diet doesn’t cause fibrocystic breasts!” I was gaining weight too and by summer of 2022 I hit perimenopause at age 46 and got every symptom you could think of. My joints were hurting too, no sleep at night, dizzy at times, it was ridiculous! I know it had to be diet! Little did I know that all the other health issues I had all my life, in addition to this mess listed above, was all due to diet! I went searching online and found the truth of my fibrocystic problem! Found out cruciferous veggies (broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, and asparagus) are all cruciferous veggies that block natural iodine absorption found in foods! And if you become depleted in iodine it messes up your thyroid which controls all- even hormones! And all organs need iodine including breasts! They swell if you are deficient! And I read these cruciferous veggies can cause cancer due to lack of iodine in body since they block absorption! Bingo! We are all being told to eat cruciferous veggies, that they can prevent cancer, and to eat lots of it including broccoli!! But in fact they are causing cancer and I truly feel it is causing all the fibrocystic breast cases that have been escalating lately that we are seeing! When I post about this and ladies write back saying they too had fibrocystic breasts, I ask, “do you eat cruciferous veggies, especially broccoli” and they all have said, “YES!” I did more research and found carnivore! I Jumped right in! In 6-8 weeks I lost 45 pounds! My perimenopause reversed! In fact don’t even get PMS symptoms and my cycle is perfectly paced! And so much more reversed that I started writing it down! And yes, my fibrocystic breast masses shrank! I share my progress because I want people to see how carnivore can heal so much and most of these things are commonly healed for many, not just me! I want to help and this is how I do- by sharing. No I am not paid to do this, I just want to help people see and be aware of what carnivore can do! I do update this list as I have been on carnivore (more lion diet version) for 1 year, 2 months, and 1 week now. I feel this has helped so many decide if they should try carnivore. I always say go watch Dr. Baker, Dr. Chaffee, and Dr. Berry- my three most favorite doctors. They are truly amazing! I call them my carnivore doctors! ☺️ * No more perimenopause- completely reversed! *Period cycles all timed perfect with 4 week intervals.And no PMS symptoms, but only the actual menstrual cycle itself! *No more night sweats *No more waking every 2 hours at night! *It used to take me 20 minutes or longer to fall asleep at night when I would first go to bed at night- before carnivore. Now it takes like a minute or less. Haven’t noticed since I am out fast! *No more life long eczema *No more cold hands (may have been Reynold’s disease, never diagnosed.) *No more cold body temp in general! Used to feel like a reptile - only warm in texas sun. (may have been Raynaud’s disease, never diagnosed.) *No more IBS symptoms (gas, bloating, stomach pain, constipation, diarrhea) *No more feeling low energy by 12pm and zombie by 4pm *No more purple looking hands in winter (may have been Raynaud’s disease, never diagnosed.) *No more brain fog *No more arthritis that I felt in hands, knees, and hips- or elbows *used to have sore hips when sleeping on my side. No more! *Lost 45+ pounds from former baby weight and peri menopause weight. *Always had 20/20 vision with slight stigmatism- but in March doctor said my stigmatism is reversing! *Don’t sunburn as easily anymore and tan well. *Wrinkles around eyes seem to be much less. I am 47 and look like I am in early 30’s. *Gums look super healthy. Dentist seems irritated as my teeth are not dirty when cleaning every six months. Think they know they won’t make money off me. *No more sore chest from monthly periods- no swelling feeling of fullness or discomfort that prevented me from sleeping on my stomach. Now I sleep every night on my stomach! *Fibrocystic Breast issues reversing! Almost all gone after 6 years of buildup! *no cravings unless they are for meat *no more angina symptoms before a period- which started about 3 years ago. *No more feeling weak like almost passing out and dizzy around ovulation and periods when walking around. * no more fingers swelling- that started a few years ago- rings kept being tight- is pattern I noticed. One ring I had resized larger and it’s super loose now. Will have to resize smaller. *feel stronger- now lifting barbells not just hands weights. Dr. Baker said since I am 46, and 5’7” at 122lbs- need more resistance training to add more muscle weight. . So bought a 47lb barbell off Amazon and have 90 extra pounds added to it. Will continue to progress with that. *Before carnivore- i had started growing grey hairs in one of my eyebrows, few hairs at a time, but no grey in my blonde hair yet - but assumed it was coming. Now on carnivore I have had no new grey hairs growing in eye brows and still no grey hair in my natural blonde hair. And in the sun it gets super light highlights. * no more body odor! * I used to get a little anxiety with large crowds- like if attending special events- but since on carnivore I don’t get it that much. *I was a bit OCD before carnivore, but so much more relaxed so barely like that. * I was a relaxed person before, but somehow am even more relaxed and never stress about things. *Since I was a young child my sense of smell has been terrible. But not even a month in on carnivore my sense of smell has gone crazy! I smell things even far away! Amazing! *no more allergies! I was allergic to cedar and oak pollens- and mold- but since carnivore I am no longer reacting to those outdoor pollens which is amazing! * I have had no more issues from ear wax build up. Had it twice after having kids and docs would say it was a hormonal problem. Carnivore cured that too! *Veins in my arms look healthier. They were almost invisible before. *Legs no longer hurt on longer road trips or plane rides! *I used to get a popping sounds in my right shoulder when lifting weights. Was probably a pulled ligament. That is now gone! *I have been lactose intolerant since I was a kid, and I feel my nails are a bit stronger than before. They do break if I catch them on things but I feel they are getting stronger on carnivore. *My teeth look more white on carnivore. *My blood pressure has improved on carnivore. 6 years before carnivore up to starting carnivore my blood pressure was increasing. Now on carnivore it is back to normal like when I was younger. Last reading it was 100/75 which is awesome! *i used to get eye twitches in my eye lids, but that is gone. * at times when trying to fall asleep I would close my eyes and at times felt dizzy like falling feeling or spinning. But haven’t has that since I have been on carnivore for 12 months. *the skin on the heals of my feet are no longer cracked and dry! *little leak from sneezing or coughing that ladies get from estrogen dominance is gone on carnivore! Hormones balanced so no more estrogen dominance! *The top inner corner of both my larger toes have felt a little numb for years. Never had it diagnosed. But being 1 year on carnivore I no longer feel that numbness! My nerves have healed in that spot on both toes! Crazy! *My slightly receding gums behind my center bottom front teeth have rebuilt so gums all over are super healthy! I have flossed daily for years, but gums look even healthier! *my skin on my face isn’t as oily as it used to be. *My hair used to be super oily if not washed daily, but carnivore has regulated my hair so I can now go days without having to wash it- doesn’t get oily after one day like before! (Newest update added!) So there you go! ☺️ I hope this helps people on their journey to fins out what works for them! Carnivore is working for everyone that tries. Go watch Dr. Baker, Dr. Chaffee, and Dr. Berry! And go visit Kerry’s channel at Homesteadhow! We love him too! ☺️

[@jodyjackson5475]

Wow!! Very thorough and encouraging! Thanks 😊

[@JennifertxCarnivore]

@@jodyjackson5475 you are welcome. ☺️

[@retirementpirate3665]

Dr. Berry just released a KZbin video on LMHR.

[@JasonBuckman]

Dr Robert Cywes MD, the #CarbAddictionDoc, is another one.

[@JennifertxCarnivore]

@@JasonBuckman isn’t he a keto doctor and promotes eating plants? Or is he carnivore?

[@to5msheppard]

I'm 65 yrs old, I'm always been pretty healthy but eat a standard american diet. I saw Dr Baker with Joe Rogan. I love the thought of all the symptoms disappearing. I have auto immune since about 4 months ago. The pain in my hands, shoulders, legs were pretty bad. I;m now on 26 days of Carnivore. The symptoms were gone around day 4. I was astonished. I eat Beef, Chicken thighs and skin, fatty pork chops. I've lost 17 lbs . I was 220 and now weigh 203. I haven;'t been this weight since colllege football. I feel better than ever. Clear thinking, more alert, my body looks way different. The fat is leaving my body and I'm loving it. Im not trying to sell this diet, it's your choice of course, but even my freinds, family are amazed on how I look and acting with new alertness, energy.

[@andrewrivera4029]

The jury is in: big food is guilty of genocide with a complicit government protecting them from any liability. Bring forth the charges…

[@CJ-lj9fb]

Unfortunately government is owned and operated by big corporations

[@noah4987]

The CICO thing is a myth. 5'7" M 32yo and I went from 160lb on a standard diet to 145lb now on carnivore. That drop happened in the first month, and I've been maintaining that weight for a year now while consuming 3000-4000 calories a day.

[@christapovec]

Same! 51yo 5’5” F 142 to 123 and SO MUCH FOOD! Easy 2800 cal/day when I used to try losing on 1300 cal 😅

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

You're only proving it works. Solve the output equation and you'll see why. Part A - sugar, fat, and protein. Part B - processed chemicals vs natural foods.... both have a very different output equation. Do the math. Fun learning experience

[@youwontstopwatchingme2636]

Your weight loss is water weight from a lack of carbs

[@noah4987]

@@youwontstopwatchingme2636 yes... But that doesn't change the part about me weighing less while eating more

[@carlabrannan3482]

Water weight will drop in the first week or so, not for months on end.

[@NickWoolfolk-n1m]

Great interview/conversation! 1st time viewer. It’s really good to hear two doctors who are knowledgeable and educated in health and nutrition, and both being very fit! Your why of interviewing brought out a more wider base of information on Dr Baker, and the meat base diet than I have learned through other videos on my own. Well done! All we, people, want is good solid educated information on getting and staying healthy throughout our life. New fan

[@annekelly1233]

Thanks for asking those questions Dr Jaime - they were questions I had too.

[@mariodigiosia481]

Hello Jaime, I'm not full carnivore but 85% onf my calories are meat with fats and high fat dairy and nuts. I eat some carbs as a treat. I am down 40 lbs of fat and up 5 lbs of lean (dexa). Been on maintenance for 2 years (omad). I was very much a carb addict for 30 years of my life. Now 59. Thanks for what you do.

[@danielcohen24]

Go 100% for a month and see how much better You can feel.

[@darrellwong4097]

Great interview Jamie! Some really interesting and insightful discussions. Thanks very much!👍👍👍

[@deniseragona2383]

I enjoyed this informative interview. Thank you.

[@D4rkBl4de]

I'm a lady, and I can't do fruits and honey. Makes my inflammation skyrocket and I gain weight, tired, insomnia. I thrive much more on zero carbs, with an occasional one meal treat every few weeks. For me, carbs are not food, they're entertainment. However, I eat very high fat (70-80% fat)

[@danielcohen24]

yup same here that's the optimal human diet

[@jaxson1948]

Great interview and outstanding discussion of diet!

[@darkfieldcarnivore3928]

I am not "anti carb", I am anti carbs being required for anything. Just a tasty non-essential macro.

[@jodyjackson5475]

That’s Entertainment !!

[@cornstar1253]

You could say that about cholesterol

[@darkfieldcarnivore3928]

@cornstar1253 No, we only produce 80% of our daily needs, the rest must come from our diet. whereas we can produce all the glucose we need on demand if insulin is at appropriate levels.

[@cornstar1253]

​@@darkfieldcarnivore3928didn't know that

[@y00t00b3r]

Dr Seeman: you need to actually hook up and activate your microphone. As it stands now, it is only serving as a prop. From the sound quality, I can tell that the recording is simply coming from the on-board mike on your computer. If this isn't the case, something else is very wrong.

[@nackyeads2508]

I would like to know if there is any reason not to use coconut oil

[@aliciamarana]

Thank you 🙏

[@minagelina]

It's not just money. I believe that it's depopulation. Much more nefarious for some people.

[@VanBurleigh]

good questions, good interview.

[@Stuart.Branson.]

Bill gatres, Coca Cola, Walmart etc. all the same people - The Genocide Squad

[@julienfroidevaux1143]

USA Coke Company = $45 billion US . Animal Ag $125billion. That's all you need to know .

[@kenadams5504]

Chronic illness makers.

[@stacymontero6172]

Thank you for the great interview. Paul Saladino said he is no longer carnivore, by the way.

[@hdv333]

"Animal based" is the new expression being widely used.

[@stacymontero6172]

@hdv333 Yes, I think that's what he refers to himself as.

[@dylanfgarrison]

“Do people need to be all meat and no carbs?” My experience: I did beef, eggs, pork, chicken, shellfish, good cheese and cream for 60 days. May 1 - June 30. I lost 21 lbs dropping from 200 to 179. In a 5’11” man so that might not even seem very overweight but when I get over 185 lbs my BP rises to like 160 over 95-105… not good. After the 60 days I decided to try Paul’s approach. I added fruits and honey. That lasted about three days. By the end of the week I was eating Oreos, ice cream and pretty much anything I could find with sugar. I keep telling myself tomorrow I’ll for sure go back to Carnivore. Fast forward to Dec 7 and I find myself at 197 lbs and feeling absolutely horrible. Also, I was very depressed and had been for weeks if not months. I’m now a week back into carnivore, I’m down 5 lbs (mostly water I’m sure but it’s amazing how thin my face looks) and have zero depression plus much more energy. I feel amazing. Long story short, I’m am 100% addicted to sugar and carbs, even the natural ones and not only do they make me gain weight and get high BP they also seem to make me depressed. I’m be on Carnivore now for as long as I possibly can, hopefully forever.

[@jaghad]

😂🤣 so funny when you wrote about how you did Paul's approach with fruit and honey and that it lasted 3 days and by the end of the week you went all in on Oreos, ice cream and junk. I know that feeling. 🤣

[@kenadams5504]

Some ppl can eats complex carbs without binging, and some ppl can't . We have to diagnose ourselves and learn as we go ,sometimes.

[@almaberisha4666]

9900000

[@julesfalcone]

​@@almaberisha4666 Paul calls it "Animal based". Orange juice isn't animal based. Saladino eats a lot of sugar. He doesn't want to admit that.

[@notrandom2]

No link to the product?

[@kenadams5504]

Organ meats aren't as popular , so I can purchase 6 lbs of beef/lamb heart for the price of 2lbs beef .( with more nutrients too).

[@jakobw135]

P.S. I'm talking about eating WHOLE plant foods- not the highly processed kind that you are referring to when mentioning people who eat less meat and more plants - I suppose

[@jimlofts5433]

B12

[@chsprat]

have been on a carnivore/Keto diet for the last six months. I have been trying to get my wife to join me, but she tells me her dietitian tells her a ketogenic diet can lead to irreversible kidney damage… a ketogenic diet is dangerous for your kidneys and potentially other organs. Is there any truth to this?

[@lf7065]

Look around for people's testimonies on healing their kidneys with a keto/carnivore approach. Start with Dave Mac's interviews. You'll learn a lot of REAL life info. 🙂

[@theinvisibleman2709]

I would volunteer to be in your study in the state of Wisconsin

[@graememudie]

45:12 good job make food addictive!!! Would you say that about a heroin producer?! Brilliant job you’re making a fortune. 😂😂😂

[@davenaga6101]

U said ur protein powder has one ingredient,wheres the vanila flavor come from?

[@AKMcF]

Great interview !

[@darkfieldcarnivore3928]

While women definitely need more energy, there is no requirement or mechanism that would suggest any of it needs to come from carbohydrates.

[@darkfieldcarnivore3928]

@beastbombshell3589 Agreed. Both are vital, and deficiencies will cause cravings. Fresh slaughter is the way to go. Otherwise, some of the water soluble goodies may be lacking.

[@douganderson8219]

I am 79 when I was young there was a cartoon popie the saylor man he showed his muscles and ate spinach that made his muscles big. Good riddance to tv. I'm carnivore

[@VADACHE]

I make shake , love it❤

[@howierobbery]

Jamie Seeman? this poor girl must have been tormented in school😂

[@shelleycarmichael3454]

I do not like the vanilla but I do like the chocolate and peanut butter ok. Love Dr Baker!!!

[@brucehall3214]

When Layne Norton discusses nutrition he should be disregarded. I feel sad when otherwise bright people give him any attention when it comes to food. He is one injury away from being morbidly obese if he persists with his diet.

[@julesfalcone]

Norton is puffy now.

[@carolinemarie44]

I will never eat fruits and veg again. They really mess me up!

[@spinningwheelsroadtravels5122]

No this can't be right. Protein- 1gm/lb of body weight: 175 lbs. I'd have to eat 25 oz of meat/day, or 29 eggs. That's 1 1/2 pounds of meat every day? I'm not Cool Hand Luke either. 1gm/kg sounds more reasonalble. Then: 11 oz of meat/day for medium or less activity level. So tell me, which is right? Just trying to figure it out.

[@Rdo_ss]

I'm 180. Eat 12 eggs and 1lb of hamburger a day

[@JasonBuckman]

1.6g/kg (0.8g/lbs) of bodyweight is the maximum your body would need. That's top line, you don't even need that much. That much covers your basis.

[@agreeablegraylife]

Eat enough fat to protein ratio. Figure out what works for your body through trial and error. Figure out which foods work best for your body. Your body is your ultimate guide. Once fat adapted, it becomes easier. I'm 58, female, and eating carnivore because I messed up my entire digestive system. My diet these days is ribeye, yogurt, a few berries, eggs, bacon, and minimal butter. Simple, boring, manageable, sustainable for me, and I am healing. Best to you!

[@spinningwheelsroadtravels5122]

@@Rdo_ss So, if meat/protein is 4:1, then 112 gm protein, plus eggs @6gm ea is 72 = 184gm total. That's a huge number. I probably have 1 egg and 10 oz burger. = 76. But I don't have any muscles either.

[@Rdo_ss]

@spinningwheelsroadtravels5122 I honestly don't lift weights but I can tell I'm getting more muscular by eating more protein

[@Jay-h9d9h]

You don’t need protein powder of you eat enough meat.

[@Gesundheit888]

..that works for me and my family.

[@chsprat]

...and if you google ketogenic diet kidney disease, there are ~countless articles...

[@lf7065]

Articles written by whom? Based on what? Sponsored by whom? You gotta dive deep!

[@CJ-lj9fb]

Has anyone published any charts comparing the available nutrients in beef to the various plant foods? It should be obvious which is superior. Right? I think this would be so much more useful than the endless vegan bashing.

[@GoneCarnivore]

I did carnivore 7 months and then added fruit to see the results. There were no results, Nothing happened. I ditched fruit and ate sweet potatoes instead and I did perform better in the gym.

[@jonathanj8458]

I enjoy listening to Shawn, but he is using the wrong terminology here. LDL and HDL are not cholesterol, they are lipoproteins which are basically cholesterol’s transporters.

[@jonathanj8458]

Also the way he uses calories as a metric of energy in the human body, which is complete and utter nonsense.

[@darkfieldcarnivore3928]

Women, just like men, not only survived but thrived with only seasonal access to carbs for thousands of years prior to agriculture. We wouldn't be here with our big brains if that were not the case.

[@johnnyg2501]

not the garden of eden we live in now.

[@karenreaves3650]

Our brains have shrunk from eating agriculture 11%, we are also shorter, die younger and have teeth problems. Homo Sapiens cannot digest fiber it rots in our intestines, we can digest meat which can digest fiber, our stomach acid breaks it down and our bodies absorb it. Ranching grasslands are highly nutritious, unlike toxic farmlands.

[@jimlofts5433]

@beastbombshell3589 the garden of Eden didn’t need food eg ketogenic state

[@modernrider1398]

Carbs in eggs and cheese?🤨

[@JaniMauk-je7mp]

Why do influencers keep trying to claim carnivore diet is ketogenic when a lot of high protein carnivores are running a1cs of 6+?

[@GoneCarnivore]

I wore a cgm after 7 months on carnivore my blood sugar stays in the mid 90s whether it be before, after or during meals. I went off carnivore and ate carbs and my bloods sugar was in the 70s between meals but my blood glucose rising and falling was keeping me awake at night and sugar crashes are worrisome when my blood sugar was in the mid 40s. I drank a fruit punch from Wendys and my blood sugar went over 350 and then crashed back down to in the 40s. So at the end of my experiment and watching my cgm I can say that energy stays solid during the day and I sleep great at night on carnivore and on the standard American diet I have energy crashes where I can't stay awake and can't sleep at night especially if I eat carbs later in the day.

[@SG-ji5ij]

​@@GoneCarnivorethe question is, what kind of carbs were you consuming? Fruit punch isn't fruit, it's processed sugar carbs. Big difference in how it affects blood gkucise.

[@SG-ji5ij]

@@andyc7747 Saladino says that carbs are necessary for proper kidney function...the glucose spike. So confusing.

[@cornstar1253]

​@SG-ji5ij he's a moron. It's the insulin which you still get from a large bolus from meat and fat.

[@barrymiller99]

I love your message, Shawn Baker, but listen to this yourself, then work to clean up your speech patterns, for the purpose of better conveying your important messages. I often find you annoying to listen to, but we all must listen. Please take this in the spirit intended.

[@John-xn2kw]

Why is this channel promoting Ultra Processed protein powder, this is processed crap! Need more protein! Eat more meat! 🥩

[@iss8504]

Sometimes you can't eat enough protein. That's me too. I drink a shake with my dinner of meat.

[@agreeablegraylife]

Listen again. That protein she is peddling is meat based.

[@normal1953]

Stop wasting time talking about mythical "greenhouse gasses!". It diminishes your credibility.

[@jaghad]

Why? That is one of the big reasons people say that we shouldn't eat so much meat. Just google it and you'd realize why his talking about it.

[@normal1953]

Global Warming is a pseudoscience false narrative, you don't want to perpetuate the globalist agenda. . @@jaghad

[@cornstar1253]

​@jaghad but using their own language perpetuates the pseudoscience

[@hayleyc4652]

Dr. Seeman, love the darker hair. Very pretty.

[@jakobw135]

What do you say to the EVIDENCE presented by doctors: Michael Greger Joel Fuhrman Joel Kahn, Neil Barnard and many others, showing that ANIMAL FOODS produce systemic inflammation as well as a host of other metabolic issues?

[@hdv333]

What evidence exactly?

[@jakobw135]

@@hdv333 Joel Fuhrman for example cites thousands of studies, and Dr Michael Greger similarly has a database of thousands of studies which emphasizes the point of a Vegan diet

[@jakobw135]

@brianl351 The Vegan diet NOT the religion.

[@_Solaris]

Quite the opposite for me. Since I stopped eating plants quite a while ago, my markers are down dramatically.

[@GoneCarnivore]

I had so much inflammation that I couldn't exercise and could barely walk. I was going to try Vegan but my girlfriend suggested carnivore and all my joint pain was completely gone after 3 weeks. It also cured my IBS. I'm not opposed to doing any diet and I may try vegan eventually. However, when it comes to being pain free I'm not going to put mountains of research in place of experimenting with my diet and seeing the results it has on myself.

[@woodlakesound]

Carnivore is great except for the shorter lifespan

[@cornstar1253]

Only if you eat carbs and high fat. Which is the standard American diet. Carnivore doesn't include exogenous carbohydrate consumption.

[@woodlakesound]

@@cornstar1253 excess animal protein shortens lifespan, sorry.

[@woodlakesound]

@@cornstar1253 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6562018/

[@moscowcowboy_13]

Why is your voice so low and you still have an adam's apple?

[@mreft]

Seeman looks so bored out of her mind.

[@stevenberta940]

Promoting super processed supplements. Waste.

[@abbyu209]

Great interview!