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[@Blue-qh1rx]

Dont do this...dont give me hope.

[@jful]

Hope...is a dangerous thing

[@Aaron-oe4yr]

There's getting features into SC then there's balancing and polishing them. For some there might be extra requirements. So....that will take some time. What we should expect is much more movement on the PU over the next 12 months.

[@grotthemighty7480]

This is what we have been hoping for for years, once sq42 is done the pu gets put on priority one because that will be the money maker after sq42 launch so it needs to be tight as hell to keep a player base

[@davewills148]

No, the SQ43 gets underway, its an ongoing series of DLC...it is DLC

[@rhynoemff]

People are still thinking development will be as slow as it has been for the past 2-3 years. Just remember they have moved lots of devs back over to the PU from SQ42 so this means faster development. Also they have all the features they want to move over already made and all they need to do is translate them to a multiplayer enviroment and move them in. Hopium sure but there is more chance of it coming in than before.

[@escapetarkov3838]

Well most of us paid for pu not sq42 so I'd hope they'd finally work on the product we paid for and not the boring ass single player no one will talk about after a week or 2.

[@Rob-lt6gb]

I agree - not sure if folks forget how many devs were actually working on SQ42. Suddenly they inject hundreds of devs back into the PU development, logic would suggest more progress is made. Its also quite good timing to do the restructure imo. Everyones able to enjoy the news from Citcon and keep busy with IAE, whilst CIG sort out the new team structure to allow focus on the features. Nevertheless, we'll see how well our predictions come through with the power of the internet :D

[@LucidStrike]

Yeah, it's like people aren't processing the difference between 700 devs and 1300. It's almost double, people. Even if not every dev is doin' PU shit now, a fuck ton more are than before.

[@jful]

I think by the first half of next year we will hopefully see the new steady state of development velocity after the dust has settled from the people shuffling around.

[@Anonnymouse53]

And people are still thinking that doubling the man hours will double output. Sure it's going to speed up. But they first have to absorb those folk into different teams or create new ones. It sounds like a dramatic shake-up and it'll be months before everyone is firing on all cylinders. Wake me up when they finish any in-game system.

[@sevilnatas]

I hope the multicrew spawn enhancement is referring to being able to bed log and relog back into another player's ship. I really want to be able to start running deep space, multicrew missions and the fact that everyone either needs to bring their own bed or spawn way back at a station or planet, when they log back in, is a deal breaker for this type of gameplay. You spend all your time getting ready to do the thing, instead of setting up the thing once and then do the thing on an ongoing basis. I wanna park a Hull C out in space, as a space warehouse, with either a Carrack or 890 Jump as a home base and spawn point, and run crews either mining on a large scale, salvaging on a large scale or any other game play that comes along.

[@LucidStrike]

Some of those features will very obviously be easier to prep than others, that patch is like 4-5 months from hitting Live, and they've technically ALREADY started porting shit to the PU. PU now has SQ42 combat behaviors, SQ42 hairs start to arrive in next month's patch. Duh some more shit will be ready nearly half a year from now. How is there any doubt? 😐

[@Baleur]

It is absolutely a bit of copium, but its fun to be excited sometimes. People have to understand just how many developers are moving from SQ42 into PU development. We're talking like +80% developers working on PU stuff now (ships, art, programming, everything). It's like going from a small PU indie studio to a full global development studio. Of course it's gonna have a HUGE impact on the pace of development that we see (since we essentially didnt "get" or "see" what they did for SQ42 until now).

[@damitcam]

I agree its going to be an epic year

[@grotthemighty7480]

Also i would like to express how pumped i am for the mini map, thank god we will finally have some reference for navigation without needing a qt drive

[@itsbadlols]

Hold the line!! This is the YEAR!!!!

[@ionkon]

CIG claimed in the past that once server meshing is implemented, the feature floodgates will open for SC...

[@DamonCzanik]

Sometimes it's okay to have hope when faced with overwhelming evidence. This isn't 2016. They don't do Sandworms anymore. They've already implemented SQ42's AI. They're already adding in hair in 3.22 (Evo leaks showed in game video). Engineering is working in game & scheduled for Q2 2024, which 100% needs the map tech. Fire scheduled Q2. New clouds scheduled this year. And now possible server meshing tests. Things are changing. You can remain skeptical but when faced with overwhelming evidence it becomes less an SC issue and more of a "You" issue.

[@guidobolke5618]

But all these things were scheduled before a couple of times. They were also shown before. Being scheduled is really easy if you can remove it later. Being scheduled doesn't signify anything. Maybe it will happen this time, but being so sure because it is "scheduled" without having had the experience of CIG actually delivering on that is really strange.

[@Baleur]

15:40 Chat: "Wow so if I buy a $900 ship and dont have insurance, POOF?" This is why people STILL think SC is a scam and everyone who buys a ship are idiots getting scammed. This is NOT an uncommon misconception, because of the stupid wording CIG does on "ship insurance". People still legit thinks you LOSE your ship if it gets blown up or stolen..... CIG has to re-word the ship insurance.

[@Baleur]

For people who are new and not quite sure of what "SC Leaks" or "Pipeline" (same discord channel) is. They are independent gamers and people who've worked for years now trying to get unannounced information from CIG employees, almost like a pseudo-whistleblower group, except instead of leaking presidential scandals, it's just chill employees who leak hand-drawn images of upcoming ships or other information. The main point is, they've been VERY accurate in what they've posted in recent years. VERY. Take everything with a grain of salt, but it's way way more plausible than just some random dude speculating out of his arse.

[@nemesisone8927]

yep just like this one : "The entire Idris model is in, including the interior." which i believe to be true.

[@jerm22278]

This actually makes the most sense to me why production and implementation is speeding up. When you have two teams working on two very large projects, and one of the projects is coming to fruition, the majority of that team is going to migrate over and help finish that other project speeding up the process exponentially. Also, S42 is the single player campaign that leads the player into SC after the story has concluded, which means that SC was developing slower because most of the tech and design features were being held up until the other game finished them.

[@DYN0M1TE44]

If it were Q1 2024 we would already see advertisements everywhere for it.

[@kthomas107t]

The F8C was not for sale for people who never got the ticket as far as I know.

[@kyuubey7688]

The SRV should be able to tow large ships, maybe at the cost of a much slower quantum speed and/or more fuel usage. I imagine a SRV comes to your aid. You tell them where you want to go. The SRV plots the route and charges a fee based on distance and fuel use.

[@BlueMax717]

The SRV can tow large ships when you use it as its description says. "allowing for effortless solo use as well as precision team towing for bigger jobs" keyword is TEAM

[@Orion1632]

the F8C wasn't on sale to everyone, only to those with the golden ticket

[@amigo3284]

I never had a chance to go for the golden ticket, so I don’t have the golden ticket. I did not have the option to buy the F8C during the IAE event.

[@sevilnatas]

I think the idea that capital ships persisting is simply the number of capital ships existing in the verse, at any given time, is insane. Just think of all the people that are competing to buy Krakens and Javelins and etc., when they hit the store every year. If every capital purchased, ended up in the verse, and especially once server meshing happens and there are a lot more people in every instance of the verse, you literally won't be able to fly anywhere, without smacking into 20 capital ships, let alone all the eventual capital ship wrecks everywhere, that are offline raided. Also, if they persist and you logout at a station or a planet, how do you and your org mates all get back to that persisted ship?

[@lordfraybin]

Insurance, LTI in particular, becomes valuable when WE are allowed to sell our ships in game.

[@CaptainDanger-]

Yeah this is pretty exciting. They are working into the new year to deliver as *Many SQ42 Features as possible* within the Q1 patch.. Could include Javelin, Idris considering static server meshing + Jump point on the preview channel EOY.. 3.22 Is also set for EOY As a quality of life patch. What an exciting time for SC! edit : just realized im stating what the video is all about but im kind of excited so sorry

[@nemesisone8927]

I quote: "The entire Idris model is in, including the interior." Not my info .....

[@sebastianrivera9122]

Last time people said this can't be true, is when people said we will get to get our hands on pyro by the end of 2023 and we did

[@DYN0M1TE44]

But we didn't get server meshing which was the prerequisite for Pyro.

[@sebastianrivera9122]

@@DYN0M1TE44 im talking about when it was leaked not too long ago that pyro was going to be playable. And people said it was impossible because of server meshing. And they still did it

[@vamperic]

Orion will likely be around the same as the Kraken and that is over a thousand now

[@terrycook2733]

This is Crimson. Hey I like your undivided content in direction. Still I would say to reference this as a recent update and news in star citizen.

[@vulcan4d]

Don't. Feature complete to release for a normal developer is 1year.

[@wild_lee_coyote]

CIG needs to get as many of the new SQ42 features out as quickly as possible so that we can help polish and debug it. You can use the progress of those features to gauge how far along SQ42 is in the polish process. If they are a buggy mess late into next year you know that SQ42 will be delayed. If they are running smooth and have no issues then SQ42 can come out sooner because they can polish more and debug less

[@MayuFuji]

You still need the gold ticket to buy the F8C at IAE

[@sevilnatas]

They already are going to raise the price for the Orion.

[@KnightKai]

its not a cut it is a camra switch, it was the same in the original.

[@j.d.4697]

From a business perspective, even offering free insurance for ridiculous periods of time like 10y or lifetime wouldn't make sense with something that has any financial impact. So I agree, people hyped it up, in part intentionally and in part unintentionally by constantly recommending it.

[@DarthPoyner]

Very glad I made nearly 10m off of those SRV missions before they put security at EVERY ONE OF THEM. How are you supposed to do scrapping with 5 ships waiting to tag your ass? You gotta go blow them up first then come back with the scavengers? Tell you what though, I still pulled it out from under their noses a few times before it became a pain in the ass.

[@fluxmechanics]

I got life-time insurance from purchasing after getting the golden ticket.

[@Caboolable]

I want a manufacturer* based in somewhere like Pyro. Dirt cheap ships of all sizes just patched together. Inconvenient features like having to Eva to get into manned turrets. Doors that have to be pushed open 😂

[@ricky6608]

Beltalowda

[@Rgraceful1]

Yes , yes it is !

[@findern2arm62]

I got the arrastra upgrade chain - galaxy, prowler > 600i, > m2 > hull-D (will upgrade from galaxy to this if released) > arrastra, for two reasons, theres a prospector play in org with an orion and we both are interested in industrial gameplay, and the second reason is if theres a wipe/release of the game I can just go out with some org mates to make some money

[@XquizitRush]

I have an Orion CCU chain from the Galaxy on my alt account and a Hull D chain on my main. I'm not going to upgrade to the Orion until I see what the Galaxy can do with base building.

[@baileyyeager1376]

I still expect SC not to release until 2030

[@diminios]

Heh, Orion warbond today costs as much as Arrastra store credit price.

[@papascronch]

When I compare this thing to other ships it's size the price doesn't really surprise me.

[@sevilnatas]

I really hate that ships are sold in a certain order but that order isn't respected when it comes to the release of the flyable ship. If the Arrastra comes out before the Orion, that would be criminal. You can't even make the argument that the Arrastra is less effort, since it is so big and the Orion had been sold so long ago.

[@nemesisone8927]

so what we will get the Arrastra as a loaner while they are working on the Orion :) i dont mind personally.

[@lukewilliams1518]

you cant buy the f8c unless you had a gold ticket

[@BigGomer]

Early morning vid nice

[@Ricardojmsl]

well I hope CIG puts the F8 in CCU at Invictus. it´s not a special ship anymore. just put it in the ships upgrades.

[@Hurrikayne907sr]

Arrastra the war time miner supports the front line with resources

[@tlove21]

Salt sea incoming for me.

[@damitcam]

Honestly my dream is a base on a planet. But with a twist. See i want an underwater cave with a large air pocket and land that j cam build a base on and do some illegal drug making in game

[@biotechisgodzilla]

hmm, should i watch this? but then i might have to rewatch at mikes salty chanel.. 🤔

[@whiteobama3032]

I mean everything except bounties is broken right now and been broken for the last month, and the servers are as unstable as ever. I would really hold my optimism with this one.

[@LucidStrike]

People say things like this as if we're talking about a post-alpha patch. The first SM build will be less stable than ultimately intended, because it will still be alpha. That's fine. Plus, server recovery is half the point of the Replication Layer split. 30ks won't means nearly as much then as they do now.

[@geddybear9108]

This isn't very accurate though in my and multiple of my friends experience, salvaging is working perfectly, same with mining, bunkers can be hit or miss which is annoying, deliveries are working, investigations. What exactly is broken with the rest?

[@whiteobama3032]

@@geddybear9108 tried mining the other day and cant sell any gems cause of "price miscount" or something, so im stuck with those. 10/10 bunkers broken with multiple enemies stuck behind walls. From my experience only things that work now are bounties, salvaging and maybe orison platforms, sometimes.

[@CitizenScott]

buckle up homies… 2024 finna be litty… and an absolute fkin mess

[@ntsHR]

Hahahaha

[@BlueMax717]

Source is a Reddit post. So basically throw all this in the trash can because it's probably made by some 14 year old kid farming for Reddit Karma. got it.

[@smurrdog5364]

Progess with Star Citizen has always been around the corner, dont expect much from this foreverdemo.

[@DaringDan]

How can youtubers and streamers see the state of the SRV and Hull-C and not think, "Yeah, next year is just gonna be more of the same"? CitizenCon was just more of the same. When the jump gates are sitting inoperable this time next year like they are now, you'll know. Then you'll repeat the same content cycle as CIG year after year after year instead of using your voice to hold them accountable.

[@StrikerTVFang]

It's the hype and the views sadly. I just learned about SC after the CitizenCon and tried the free fly weekend. Not a great first impression at all. Even for an alpha test, this is the stupidest AI I've ever seen in any game.... EVER. The vibe of this game is like everything was being held together with duck tape.

[@amiththomas3884]

When people are playing Pyro by next year end, you will be shifting your argument to something else. You're making the same mistake, overgeneralizing. CIG takes 2-3x as long as they say, but they do get there. They have shown that. You don't look at slow progress and then say there is no progress at all. Structural salvage coming in as a suprise, the cloud improvements and new hair coming next month. Probably Arena Commander multicrew, and more QoL. Evo already testing the Replication layer split with game sessions managing to recover from 30k. SQ42 AI changes and behaviours already started to be implemented, and people can see that even among the usual AI issues. Some of these things people weren't expecting for another 6 months atleast. The Argo ARV came with full tractor beam support for ships and new FPS tractor beam. You can't look at all this and say it's the same as always. It's just objectively not. You can avoid the overhyping but still try and have an accurate picture of things, without over generalizing.

[@DaringDan]

@@amiththomas3884 I never said they wouldn't get there. I'm merely stating they won't get there this time next year and given their track record, that's not a far leap. You're confusing me with those shitbirds on reddit refunds. I'm not one of those dudes. CIG released those jump gates as a hype device before CitCon along with the F8C and everyone and their brother fell for it and we'll see less than half the stuff they said was coming by CitCon in 2024 miss target dates like it does every year. They've been showing off fire propagation for 3 years now and we still don't have it. They were telling us in 2015 we'd have Modularity real soon and they shelved it to sell SUCKERS crap like the Antares, ROC-DS, and Cutty Steel. So miss me all the way with telling me I'll shift my topic. I was the first person to thank CIG for releasing a Pyro that we could test. I asked for it earlier this year on Spectrum and got lambasted for it because, "That's not the vision, idiot".

[@StrikerTVFang]

@@amiththomas3884 playing a broken, half baked game in a new star system still is the same old thing.... just in a new location.

[@amiththomas3884]

@@StrikerTVFang another pointless over generalization. Game will probably get more and more features that people want and regardless of what we say people are excited for a huge new location. And everyone who played Pyro clearly showed it differed quite a bit from Stanton in gameplay.

[@davewills148]

Yeah, and we've all seen what a shit show AI has turned into

[@LucidStrike]

It didn't turn into anything. The servers are just still overloaded, so the servers can still barely run the AI functions at all. If you look at the server FPS, notice how abysmal it still is. It's weird to me this doesn't automatically occur to folks without needing it explained.

[@StrikerTVFang]

@@LucidStrike As a new player it is worrying this game studio is giving so many a bad first impression. I haven't be able to do any of those bunker missions and any time I'm in a big city the NPCs are freaking out and standing on things. I could never use the elevator in one station and I couldn't request landing in others. It was a mess.

[@georgek2574]

@@StrikerTVFangyou won’t have a proper experience in bunkers until the replication layer is in, and more so until server meshing. AI is tied to the server fps atm

[@StrikerTVFang]

@@georgek2574 is there any word on when that will be in? It seems like the game would be great if the AI was working.

[@georgek2574]

@@StrikerTVFang replication layer was already being tested and from the sounds of it it went well. So could be by the end of the year.