S5 UNEXPECTED ISO test results + Best practice

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@TerenceEnn
@TerenceEnn 3 жыл бұрын
Came here for the S5 lowlight and left with the best lesson in exposure
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
Really happy to hear that!! Welcome aboard
@DavidGriffin
@DavidGriffin 4 жыл бұрын
Unlike many "Tubers" you got integrity to say the truth and not drop videos for clicks! Respect!!!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
thanks David, really appreciate it. I've said it before.... I'm a DP before being a YTer, I'm here to share my true and honest DP experience with the gear I use.
@loexz5528
@loexz5528 4 жыл бұрын
These graphics are accually insanely good
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Really appreciate it
@ThunderfallFilms
@ThunderfallFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Your spelling of actually is actually wrong
@007silverwings
@007silverwings 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more! Would you mind sharing how you created them?
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
@@007silverwings Keynote
@karlneilson1316
@karlneilson1316 3 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant demonstration of the camera’s ISO performance, and the exposure choices you need to make. Thank you very much, I’ve learned a huge amount. I am now clicking ‘subscribe’!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard Karl... Thanks again
@ZiggyStardust005
@ZiggyStardust005 4 жыл бұрын
You are by far the best when it comes to camera reviews, so much detail and perfect presentation!! You should do the mega comparison of speedboosted BMPCC 4K / BMPCC 6K / A7 sIII / S5 / XT3 / R6 / R5 for dynamic range, noise and when it falls apart in grading, and your toughts :) that would surely be highly appreciated by many many people!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
THANKS for your awesome comment! WOW... that’s truly a MEGA comparison... I’ll see what I can do.. but it’s hard to get all these cameras I gotta say
@silklion7375
@silklion7375 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes please. That sounds very good. Please do it! I will subscribe!
@mazdahindia3155
@mazdahindia3155 4 жыл бұрын
Instant subscription!!!! Cant now listen to others that just read what is out there as oppose to analyzing like you do. Respect!
@Clickumentary
@Clickumentary 4 жыл бұрын
I was there last week
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@ondrejcarda
@ondrejcarda 4 жыл бұрын
I´m blown away by quality of information and visualisation here! Wow 👀👌 Thank you for this amount of work and superb production!
@LoverOfTech
@LoverOfTech 4 жыл бұрын
Mistakes or not still supporting and bringing the heat👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
You’re the BEST!!
@toofy7253
@toofy7253 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone needs to see this! I found this too in my own tests with the GH5s. Glad you went out of the way to prove it
@NerdSyncProductions
@NerdSyncProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely good video! Thanks for all the work that went into this. Very clear and helpful!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
Glad i can help. Thanks for watching
@SlaughterHausD
@SlaughterHausD 19 күн бұрын
Good information. In the Door example .. I thought it was generally accepted now that when recording Vlog one should (nearly) always expose +2 or 3 higher anyway to preserve the black and mids.
@LimaVideoProductions
@LimaVideoProductions 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best ISO test and explanation I have ever seen . I just got a S5 to be cam for my FS5 and is amazing . Keep it up !
@indyvin
@indyvin 4 жыл бұрын
Another polished presentation from TDPJ. Virtually in a class by himself.
@EnTown
@EnTown 3 жыл бұрын
the best reviews So Much
@Tom_Hart
@Tom_Hart Жыл бұрын
Always coming back to re-inform myself how I should work with my S5!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY Жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to have you back
@BenPhanStudios
@BenPhanStudios Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Love your your channel brother
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY Жыл бұрын
Thanks, much appreciated
@JimRobinson-colors
@JimRobinson-colors 4 жыл бұрын
A few things here - The dual ISO is not designed totally for the noise level, if you look at the same ISO system used on a Blackmagic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 4K, they include a chart and explain the reasoning - which is to retain dynamic range into higher ISO settings. And in the video you raised the exposure without saying how you raised the exposure. Aperture or shutters speed etc. will raise the exposure and allow more light - but if you ETTR and use ISO - you are not allowing more light, you are raising the gain on the same amount of light, which produces another factor of noise. I realize you had the ISO at 3200 for your side by side, but changing aperture depending on the lens might be part of the reason for a cleaner image in the mids. The 10 bit in V-log should give you more latitude for getting a cleaner image in the midtones when compensating in post. When people raise the blacks they are not completely aware of the fact that shadow detail is also lost. Shadow detail is part of the dynamic range and is tossed aside by a lot of people to accommodate noise suppression.
@CINENIMUS
@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын
I think you missed the point there a but OK. Just replying here in case people reading too much into your comment. Remember peeps - use your own head.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY Жыл бұрын
I used shutter speed to control exposure, to take away the lens influence out of the equation
@CINENIMUS
@CINENIMUS Жыл бұрын
@@THEDPJOURNEY could do with an update of “what’s in my bag 2023 edition” 😎👌
@SakkiDuran
@SakkiDuran Жыл бұрын
So where does 709like profile sits? Normal? Cine?
@JimRobinson-colors
@JimRobinson-colors Жыл бұрын
@@CINENIMUS How so? ISO is after the sensor. Exposure is actual light hitting the sensor. Instead of telling people to use their head, maybe try to articulate what I said into your personal opinion or view of it, in a technical response. And also consider that a lot of people buying and using this camera, are shooting video. So shutter speed is usually not part of the equation in exposure.
@arispapaspyros
@arispapaspyros 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful information! Various questions that were created during the video, you explained them in the next frame and in great detail! I urge you to continue this wonderful work and give us your help.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Aris for the support. Happy you liked the channel. More to come very soon
@HDBerlin
@HDBerlin 3 жыл бұрын
invaluable help and explanation why exposure to the right makes sense here - thanks 1000 times!
@DatnaPatna
@DatnaPatna 23 күн бұрын
Very helpful video! Great job!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 16 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@fatherhooding
@fatherhooding 2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for the tests. I trust you the most when it comes to these things!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for trusting my opinions, happy to help as always
@peek118
@peek118 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic experiment, thanx. In higher ISO dynamic range shifts to allocate more of itself above the middle gray (in compare with Lower or base ISO s ) , all digital sensors are like that, even Venice and Alexa. it's counter intuitive, one thnks "oh, higher ISO must produce better lit shadows" , but no. Under intense sun light it's best to raise the ISO. Weird but true.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@trayneadjeifilms
@trayneadjeifilms 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I great advice about exposing to the right. A lot of DPs swear by underexposing and never clipping the highlights but I've noticed on my GH5 that it's hard to bring back the blacks than the whites, so I tend to overexpose one or two stops to gain details in the shadows and only underexposed if there is a lot of sky or blown out windows in frame
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Trayne for the support... yeah ETTR is a solution to such scenario, keep in mind it's not the solution for everything, ETTL would work in other scenarios. SO other DPs are correct as well. it all depends on your scene. Here I was mainly referring to the noise issue and its solution.
@boakium3089
@boakium3089 4 жыл бұрын
This video blows me away. Awesome job! Instant subscription. Keep up the good work.
@filmbyakiljoefield
@filmbyakiljoefield 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are definitely the best in terms of clear and precise explanation, I am very happy to have stumbled across your channel, keep up the excellent work sir!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the support and the kind words. Happy to have you onboard
@davidp158
@davidp158 7 ай бұрын
As always, you're videos are super informative. Would these test results apply equally to the S1H? Thanks for your efforts with these KZbin channels. Keep up the great work.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 7 ай бұрын
Thanks David, I can't 100% confirm since I sold my S1H, but to a certain extend yes this applies
@merlinmerlette
@merlinmerlette 4 жыл бұрын
Very clear and didactic video. Your motion design is great.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Really glad to have you onboard
@zeep7500
@zeep7500 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect introduction and guideline for S5 user like me. Thx a lot for sharing!
@LucaBono.Studio
@LucaBono.Studio 4 жыл бұрын
Really helpful video Sherif! These cameras are performing pretty well as Full HD cameras in my opinion... For 4K resolution, you can only film in Aps-c to get a consistent look, but then you have to deal with the noise...But I still enjoy my S1 :D
@ratadeldesierto760
@ratadeldesierto760 4 жыл бұрын
What is a consistent look? The IQ does not drop too much in Aps-c and you get beautiful results. You can compensate the crop fractor with wider lenses
@LucaBono.Studio
@LucaBono.Studio 4 жыл бұрын
@@ratadeldesierto760 there are quite a bit of compromises, like moiré, noise compression, true 4K instead of downsampled 6K signal, RGB readout, light gathering, lens distortion/vignette, and probably more stuff that I'm forgetting... This is what you compromise when you swap from a full frame to aps-c sensor readout, and to my eyes it's a big mess...if it's fine for you, then I'm really happy for you. I'm really happy to work in Full-HD and upscale to 4K in post if I need to use slowmotion.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
S1 is a slightly better version of the S5 I would say... the new AF in the S5 will come to S1 soon anyway. S5 won't be for you I guess
@Max-mh5yo
@Max-mh5yo 2 ай бұрын
Very, very cool video.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 2 ай бұрын
Cheers thanks 🙏
@albertpanas7198
@albertpanas7198 6 ай бұрын
very good job thank you!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 5 ай бұрын
Cheers, thanks for watching
@omneyanoureldin3651
@omneyanoureldin3651 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the follow up and valuable info👍
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@alantuttphotography
@alantuttphotography 4 жыл бұрын
I love your attention to detail. Nice video!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@darrenph9885
@darrenph9885 4 жыл бұрын
Should have way more subscribers. Great videos.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Darren, really appreciate it. I’m very grateful for having awesome supporters like you that organically grow the channel
@dimitrimoonlight
@dimitrimoonlight 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your testing.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Pleasure
@prabhakarrao4922
@prabhakarrao4922 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Brilliant analysis work. I will try your methodology on my Sigma Fp. Thank you kindly. Have a wonderful day.
@romsprod
@romsprod 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Sherif (ETTR ha ?😅)
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@dennymahardika
@dennymahardika 2 жыл бұрын
Damn this short video is really packed with knowledge and no BS at all! A new sub here, sir! Thank you so much for this!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words and welcome aboard
@TechIlliterate
@TechIlliterate 3 жыл бұрын
When you say you brought it up 3 stops 3:50 what mechanism did you use to do that? Just widen the aperture?
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
No i only used the shutter speed/angle to retain the DOF and ISO intact
@TechIlliterate
@TechIlliterate 3 жыл бұрын
@@THEDPJOURNEY Thank you
@ColinHuijser
@ColinHuijser 2 жыл бұрын
this channel is so fucking great... Good stuff man!
@rpestess
@rpestess 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. Great to know as I have one ordered.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@markhardycreative
@markhardycreative 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing and so useful thank you for making this. I liked and subscribed
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks for watching
@avarmadillo
@avarmadillo 4 жыл бұрын
What can I say? Super helpful! Panasonic recommends (on the S1H) that you should expose so middle gray is 42 ire on the Luminance spot meter. Exposing to the upper half of the screen what would you estimate the middle gray IRE should be---or should you worry so much about that? Since the S5 and the S1H share the same full frame sensor should exposure be the same insofar as you have control of it on the S5? Thanks so much! Your videos are really, REALLY great.
@delysid_musicPY
@delysid_musicPY Ай бұрын
It would be nice to see this video updated for the s5ii
@Pattern_seeker202
@Pattern_seeker202 2 жыл бұрын
Great work!
@ju2705s
@ju2705s 4 жыл бұрын
Great job and perfect explanation... Thx so much 👍
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@javierprato
@javierprato 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful tip!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Glad you found it useful
@liz2k
@liz2k 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool video with great useful information. Thanks for your work!
@poonricky5310
@poonricky5310 4 жыл бұрын
Whats your choice on A7siii vs S5 ? I just switched from Sony A7sii, A7iii to Panasonic S1, just hate the Sony 8bit color and poor color science, but now seems the world has changed a lot. Most of my video job will have proper lighting, not in a large scale but good enough. Cheers mate! Support you always. Best videography technique channel ever!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words... well A7SIII is technically a higher level camera than S5. MUCH better AF... MUCH higher FPS at 4k FF. So yeah, if you have the cash, then I'd go A7SIII, ONLY if you don't care about Photo resolution. I still gotta test it... but so far, from the trusted sources i know, they rave about it
@poonricky5310
@poonricky5310 4 жыл бұрын
@@THEDPJOURNEY Thx mate, finally I got the S1H, happy with it now ! S1H as a main camera then the S1 will be the B-cam Maybe selling the S1 to get a S5 as B cam
@paulbeckmann
@paulbeckmann 4 жыл бұрын
Free university level info! Thank you!
@rblongfellow
@rblongfellow 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are incredible 👌👏👏👏
@sinerehber
@sinerehber 3 жыл бұрын
Very very useful informations here ! Thank you very much! Subscribed
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mustafa! And welcome aboard
@davidsanchez1
@davidsanchez1 3 жыл бұрын
Terrific Job
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😉
@johann3029
@johann3029 3 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU!
@mobiwei9315
@mobiwei9315 3 жыл бұрын
OHHHHH. Now I see why FF have lower noise.THX
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure 😉
@Karthig1987
@Karthig1987 4 жыл бұрын
Good video as always
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers thanks 🙏
@leonarddai4998
@leonarddai4998 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing content, straight to the point
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching
@DrWaSaBe
@DrWaSaBe 4 жыл бұрын
I learned alot, thanks mate
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support وسابي
@DrWaSaBe
@DrWaSaBe 4 жыл бұрын
@@THEDPJOURNEY انت لبناني حبيبي؟
@theoriginalaz
@theoriginalaz 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video once again Sherif! I'm looking to move to a 1st full-frame mirrorless camera as a videographer, would you say the AF tracking on the S5 is a massive issue for anything other than just casual video? I personally think the 4k 10bit 4:2:2, IBIS and firmware updates ticks many boxes but I'm not sure. The A7SIII is perfect but I can't justify the price when I can buy the S5 and build a decent lens range.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
For "casual" use... it's totally fine. i'm working on an Episode about the AF in all cases. Stay tuned
@theoriginalaz
@theoriginalaz 4 жыл бұрын
@@THEDPJOURNEY Ahh okay Looking forward to that video dropping!
@capitolbassfishing
@capitolbassfishing 2 жыл бұрын
excellent explination
@tetrapackvideo159
@tetrapackvideo159 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video!
@pmfilmsUK
@pmfilmsUK 4 ай бұрын
Good review
@luminari_productions
@luminari_productions 7 ай бұрын
This video was absolutely fantastic thank you for making it. I think it applies to the s5ii as well this has been my findings. What about CineD? I find it completely handles noise in shadows way better than vlog which I understand is the camera doing noise reduction, but do you have any idea what kind of dynamic range it's providing?
@ratadeldesierto760
@ratadeldesierto760 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing Content! Best review of S5 after I have seen a lot... one question, which would be the higest IRE when you can recover the highligts? I would like to be at the edge of the right. Thank you!!
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Well anything higher than 100 clips anyway in all cameras, unless you're shooting RAW or HLG which has a different scale. I will need to confirm it for you... but Panasonic claimed it's +6 stops
@emptyandseephotos7858
@emptyandseephotos7858 3 жыл бұрын
Very usefull info thanks
@MoonlitFilms
@MoonlitFilms 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Man, great video. Could you compare the Full hd slow mo 100-180 fps quality with gh5/gh5s? As I spotted in the spec sheet full hd S&Q mode is limited just to 28 Mbps...
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Sure let me see what i can do
@Aurrorusek
@Aurrorusek 2 жыл бұрын
​ @The DP Journey @moonlit films still no answer for this ? :(
@walrusgumboot
@walrusgumboot 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is predominantly an ISO test, but did you consider the impact of Dual ISO on dynamic range? The scene at 3:10 would have been interesting to see at ISO4000 too, as theoretically you would have had less noise and not clipped the highlights. However, in practice I’m not sure if that’s how it’s come out. I’ve always seen the main benefit of the second ISO circuit being the dynamic range being closer to the base ISO level. Would love to see a test
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
CineD guys Lab Tested the S1H sensor, which is the same sensor here, and they concluded there's no loss in DR switching between High and Low ISO Gain settings. Here's more about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKeohJ6LnpaHiNk
@walrusgumboot
@walrusgumboot 4 жыл бұрын
The DP Journey cool thank you! So does that mean in your example, 4000 would have had more dynamic range than 3200?
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
No they should have the same
@walrusgumboot
@walrusgumboot 4 жыл бұрын
The DP Journey oh that’s surprising, I thought circuit 1 and 2 had same dynamic range at their native bases, but got progressively worse as they increased.
@OliKember
@OliKember 4 жыл бұрын
@@walrusgumboot I think 4000 should have more dynamic range than 3200, because there's less information appearing as noise, and more information appearing as useable range.
@dynamax1041
@dynamax1041 2 жыл бұрын
Super educatieve video.This means that we will shoot with 640 iso in the light environment. In the dark environment, we will shoot with a 4000 iso ?
@BoldBreak
@BoldBreak 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully some of this stuff can be ironed out with firmware update. Panasonic have given decent support with firmware updates in the past. Thanks for these tips good to know when I start using the camera.
@omarmokbel1273
@omarmokbel1273 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks....👍🏼
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@jasoncherry2508
@jasoncherry2508 4 ай бұрын
As everyone else has said, this video is GREAT and extremely informative with the tests that you have done and the visualizations are superb!!!... Now, for a functional question, have you tested the noise when it is BELOW ISO 640? Many people say that you should set your ISO as low as possible for the cleanest images and I was wondering what your testing shows with these same methods? I am looking for that data that shows that if you have enough light, does it make any difference to shoot below ISO 640 to get even cleaner images / video? I typically shoot video outdoors in bright sunlight and would like to know if I can use that extra light to my advantage by shooting at an even lower ISO (like 100) and use my light to make other more useful changes like higher shutter speed, higher F-stop for more deeper focus?
@cuckooclock8514
@cuckooclock8514 3 жыл бұрын
Does the EV button work in video mode?
@dancrosby6091
@dancrosby6091 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I just subscribed to your channel. Really informative. In the example provided, How were you able to expose +3 stops (from -2 to +1) without changing your ISO? Did you open your aperture? Thanks
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support and welcome onboard. I increased the EV using shutter angle
@neoterixx3440
@neoterixx3440 2 жыл бұрын
@@THEDPJOURNEY I’m not sure I follow on this one. Wouldn’t Increasing the EV effect the shutter speed and the aputure? What if you don’t have any wiggle room left. Can you please clarify 🙏 Also a huge thank you for you content, it’s amazing. You are a true hidden gem.
@Alexrocks1253
@Alexrocks1253 2 жыл бұрын
What should I set the zebras to for overexposure in V-Log to know what is clipping?
@suatsekil
@suatsekil 4 жыл бұрын
THANKS
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@JKDrift
@JKDrift 2 жыл бұрын
As usual, the review is a masterpiece! I have S5 for few weeks and still learning it.But i've actually compared 4K60 420 10 bit and FHD 60 422 10 bit and the second option looks better to me. What i'm thinking...theoretically if you shoot in FHD 60 422 10 bit and then upscale it to 4k you will get same noise particles as in 4K60 420 10 Bit, but you will have wider field of view and much brighter picture, because when in APSC mode it gets darker. So for the same night scene you won't have rise up ISO so much as in APSC mode which will eventually result in less noise:))) What do you think? Am i right or am i wrong?
@prntm926
@prntm926 2 жыл бұрын
If youre aiming for better noise, more light and wider fov, then yes, you're not wrong. But 4k will always have more detail than FHD, unless youre shooting raw FHD. Why don't just use 4k 24? That mode doesn't have crop isn't it? And use the FHD60/ 4k60 for slowmo (24fps timeline) I could be wrong, since i don't own the s5. But i will someday tho 😅
@Wojo123
@Wojo123 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the detail. Are the charts / diagrams available in pdf?
@HyperspeedMedia
@HyperspeedMedia 4 жыл бұрын
Does this apply to the S1 and S1h as well?
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Theoretically it should since they share the same sensor... but gotta test it to confirm this
@HyperspeedMedia
@HyperspeedMedia 4 жыл бұрын
@@THEDPJOURNEY thank you
@noahdavidson1343
@noahdavidson1343 2 жыл бұрын
This video is great. I wonder though, with the house and door example, you increase the exposure on the same iso, which is a good example to understand things, but in the real world usually we are at a high ISO because we can't increase the exposure in any other way. So my question is, when you have a dark image and you need to increase iso, is it better not to push iso too much, or better to push it and then reduce the exposure in post? because that's the decision I can actually make when filming and I'm already wide open with no ND on.
@Clickumentary
@Clickumentary 4 жыл бұрын
I'm loving this S5 intel.. for the record, I'm 99% ready to drop one in my shopping cart.. but still teased by Z6s (to be announced) and XT-4.. someone please help me not over-analyze this and lose free 45mm prime for ordering early!
@TexpatOTG
@TexpatOTG 4 жыл бұрын
AF is not good ... it won't ever be as long as it's only contrast based AF. If you can live with that, I'd trust the Panasonic more than the overheating Canon offerings.
@LeoLikesVideos
@LeoLikesVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. If you can live without good AF, the Panasonics offer great colour, superb dynamic range and incredible ISO performance. I recently shot at 16.000 ISO during the night, people were only illuminated by some lampions at VLOG (something you aren't supposed to do). And the results looked absolutely stunning!
@Clickumentary
@Clickumentary 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeoLikesVideos Totally.. that *live without good AF* thing is a big deal. I eventually came across a review that demonstrated that the S5 really only performs adequately for video AF in crop mode. Otherwise it was quite discouraging. I decided to cancel my pre-order w/B&H and picked up another m43 (G9) body and lenses and might return to this in another year or so. I wasn't ready to start investing heavy in L glass with the dubious AF. But, the low light performance of S5 and dynamic range are stellar.. I'm going to miss that for sure.
@rendermanpro
@rendermanpro 6 ай бұрын
Interesting
@colhutchins
@colhutchins 4 жыл бұрын
I always learn something new in your videos despite having watch a lot of reviews etc on the s5. Thanks :-) But, I have a question, you explain that APS-C is more noisey as using less pixels, so bigger noise particles. So my question is why then does the a7siii with only 12 MP have less noise? I am pretty sure I am missing something simple here.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
First thank yo so much for the compliment... To answer your question... First, the A7SIII "having less noise" is not accurate I would say, it's more like it has a higher noise threshold. Meaning noise shows on it much later than other cameras. Which is due mainly to what I explained here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZPbpJRooq6kiMk Second, it's not really that "less noise" the noise particles in it look much bigger than the A7III for example, and it doesnt perform that much better either thant he A7III. Check this comparison: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5m8YZabYrSZgcU Hope that helps
@joseagonzalez2973
@joseagonzalez2973 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I just bought a lumix s5 but I don’t see the master pedestal or the SS gain operation on my menu in image quality like I seen in other videos. Why is that? Did I get a broken camera?
@TexpatOTG
@TexpatOTG 4 жыл бұрын
I would buy a Panasonic in a heartbeat if they had Sony quality AF. I don't understand why they still use the oldest tech. I'm sure they have the ability to make it happen, but for some reason they don't.
@coin777
@coin777 6 ай бұрын
Will you make this test for the mark2?
@nostalgia_box
@nostalgia_box 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very informative video! How to turn off auto iso and set to 640/4000 when recording video.. It automatically sets to auto iso when recording video ..
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
On the S5 it’s always on auto. No manual option available
@nostalgia_box
@nostalgia_box 4 жыл бұрын
@@THEDPJOURNEY and also what is POST mean at 03:58
@radwoc
@radwoc 3 жыл бұрын
@@nostalgia_box post production, in this case is color grading
@vladislav.radionov
@vladislav.radionov 3 жыл бұрын
why i cant change my EV, when i press the button it just happend nothing (all setting are normal, and yes, i restart all camera settings) ?! i can only this change in auto ISO mode... what i dont needed ofcource hopefully somebody can help me =)
@UnraveledJA
@UnraveledJA Жыл бұрын
Question brother , how did u raise your exposure by 3 stop , were u using a nd filter, trying to fully understand your explanation , respect.
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY Жыл бұрын
Shutter angle. Thanks
@UnraveledJA
@UnraveledJA Жыл бұрын
ok, so arn't you concerned about the 180 rules , interms of motions blur?@@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY Жыл бұрын
@UnraveledJA in this test it was about finding the performance of the sensor while keeping the lens as a constant. That’s why I didn’t change the aperture. It’s a technical test rather than a filmmaking technique tip in other words. With that said, for static objects, I won’t worry about the shutter angle, that only matters for moving aubjects
@UnraveledJA
@UnraveledJA Жыл бұрын
well said , repeat !!@@THEDPJOURNEY
@mittymatters
@mittymatters 3 жыл бұрын
Tnx for video. Please, tell me. So for best dynamic range what iso I must use ? 4000 ?
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
Haven’t tested thoroughly but Both native ISOs perform the same when it comes to DR to my eyes
@lovreperaic2757
@lovreperaic2757 4 жыл бұрын
great video, i hope Panasonic appreciates it. Do you have similar "best practice" for S1H?
@jdsmedia
@jdsmedia 3 жыл бұрын
i dont get the "switches automatically" part of the iso. You cant manually select the iso you want??
@divyangkundaliya3584
@divyangkundaliya3584 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a full review video on FUJI XT3
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 4 жыл бұрын
Will see what i can do
2 ай бұрын
Hi, thank you for all this info. :( i dont use vlog, i dont like to grade. I use NATURAL ¿Whats the native iso for natural? :)
@sujitmaharjan8385
@sujitmaharjan8385 3 жыл бұрын
A73 vs S5 which one is better in low light. Which one shall I buy as a bigginer ??
@mashamatt
@mashamatt 2 ай бұрын
Does this apply to photo as well, or just video? Thanks
@AlexJenkins
@AlexJenkins Жыл бұрын
this is an older video so not sure if anyone will see this, but how do you adjust EV in camera? Is that just F stops? I really feel like I should know this by now :(
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY Жыл бұрын
For this test I only adjusted the shutter angle to avoid any optical inconsistencies in the lens if I change the iris
@EugeneMaynard
@EugeneMaynard 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏾
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@Arkadiusz4321
@Arkadiusz4321 3 жыл бұрын
how did u take it down to -3ev and clean image? I've done that with take down exposure but is still the same grainy, iso 6400 is so grainy same as 16000 taken down
@mittymatters
@mittymatters 3 жыл бұрын
How u make colour correction vlog? With lut from official site and after manual correction ? Or another way ?
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
I create my own LUTs
@mittymatters
@mittymatters 3 жыл бұрын
@@THEDPJOURNEY tnx
@THEDPJOURNEY
@THEDPJOURNEY 3 жыл бұрын
Was planning to release many of them since I’ve been asked many times… but gotta fine tune them. So stay tuned if j in interested 😉
@mittymatters
@mittymatters 3 жыл бұрын
@@THEDPJOURNEY I’ll be wait for it!)
@steadjames
@steadjames 4 жыл бұрын
I am wondering whether to get 2 of these S5s as really I need a backup body or b-cam and cannot afford the S1H - unless second-hand possibly. My current setup involves a couple of GH4s and a GX80 for wide shots, so anything will be an improvement in the low-light stakes......but just wondering if I should just buy ONE S5 and wait to see whether there is an improved model......or else try for a cheap second-hand S1H (which will most likely have to be off ebay with no warranty)....anyone else having the same dilemma?
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