SAB Goblin 570 Overview with my 6s vs Kyle Stacy's 12s setup

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SAB Goblin 570 Setups
Chris Reibert: 6s Setup
Flight Style: Big Air 3D
FBL System: iKON
Motor: Scorpion HKIII HK4025-1100KV
Pinion: 21T Pulley
Headspeeds: 1950/2200/2400
ESC: Castle Edge HV120 ESC
Governor: Castle Internal Gov
BEC: Castle BEC Pro
Cyclic Servos: MKS HBL950's
Tail Servo: MKS HBL980
Main Blades: SAB 570mm Blackline Blades
Tail Blades: SAB Tail Blades
LiPos: Pulse 5000/5500mAh 6s Lipos
Kyle Stacy: 12s Setup
Flight Style: Smack 3D
FBL System: Futaba CGY 750
Motor: Scorpion HKIII HK4025-550KV
Pinion: 23T Pulley
Headspeeds: 2200/2400/2800
ESC: Jive 120
Governor: Jive 120 at 47% / 83%
BEC: Western Robotics Hercules
Cyclic Servos: Futaba 272 HV's
Tail Servo: Futaba 276 HV
Main Blades: SAB 570mm Blades
Tail Blades: SAB Tail Blades
LiPos: (2) Pulse Ultra 6s 3300 45c Lipos

[@SundayIdajili]

Damn! My head is still spinning after watching Kyle's flight. how do you guys do this magic? Well done guys. I have the 570 6S setup with Ikon...never flown it. just tested by a friend. I wake up every morning, and happily sip coffee while watching it sit on my shelf... :)

[@Leo_Davis_]

I really enjoy the sound of the blades taking those huge cuts on the air

[@MikeDawson1]

I love how you show how configurable the Goblin 570 is... also that's an insane headspeed that kyle flys! He could probably double his flight time if he dropped it a bit!

[@nitrokyosho]

its nice of you guys to list the set ups you were using that will help down the road to decide on 6 or 12 cell

[@mrslyds8602]

Love watching kyle fly, wow it's amazing

[@HeliFlightRCU]

Jaw dropping performance and flight.

[@delfin2003]

gotta love that landing!

[@jrichey73]

You guys rock! Incredible flights! Incredible skill!

[@AngryLS1]

That was an epic flared landing from Kyle.

[@neilpro18]

Nice job Chris I have a couple of blades love them 500x 550x 600x will try a goblin thanks for the video

[@xumischannel]

nice flying bruu, i love this goblin 570... 😍

[@matejbludsky8410]

Kyle is crazy good!!

[@Jgerny]

Nice flying guys.

[@thenige69]

As previously said, this is not really a comparison. A fair comparison would be same pilot flying and the two helis running the same head speed and configured as closely to each other as possible

[@jamesmcginn6291]

OMG. Amazing!!!

[@StarvingBushman]

Hey Chris - great flying man! I have a quick question. did you change the tail pulley to the 21t as suggested if running 2400 and lower headspeed? To those suggesting that the video of Kyle is sped up - you obviously have never seen him fly in person. It's hard to comprehend how he does what he does but it is 100% real.

[@storm086]

Hy Chris, we've seen us in Instagram. Yeahh 😳😍 amaaaazing flight 👍🏼 Awewome

[@crmodels]

Sped up lol ?!? Have you not seen Kyle fly before that was all real time brotha!

[@juancarlossegovia2036]

Que hermoso eh!! 😍 cuanto me gustaría tenerlo 😭

[@KitariFox]

man, the second flight was pretty intense just watching on youtube, I bet it would really be crazy to see in person. I hope I can get on your level some day, I'm actually just starting out with a little master cp 200 size heli. (or I will be in about 1 more week), but while I wait, I'll just have to settle with some good ol' fixed pitch fun with my phantom doing slow flips high up in the air, or my cheerson cx-10, but pushbutton flips don't really count do they? lol

[@gff1230]

thanks !!

[@constantin5484]

I liked 12s 9'45" uh-huh 😅

[@cocoly6702]

12S: c'est nerveux!

[@tattii421]

I am interested in your setup. If I can get 1950, 2200, 2400 it will be great especially for beginner if I can do hovering and basic forward flight at 1950, I will be happy. I am just a little confused, if you're using 4025-1100kv with 87% efficiency and 22.2V with stock 9.8 gear ratio, then I am getting 2167 rpms???how are you getting up to 2400 with stock pulley ? Or is efficiency of motor not included here? Also can that be done with cc 130 edge rather than the 120HV ? Is that applicable to any 1100kv motor regardless of power in watts ?

[@Sm1nts2escape]

Does that thing throw a massive spark out the bottom at 10:50 ???? I am wondering if the bec did it? Wow awesome flight!!!

[@TornadoBox]

Sm1nts2escape Wow your totally right what the heck was that?!

[@Sm1nts2escape]

Colby Johnson Idk but I'm guessing a capacitor on the bec?

[@thomaslang7634]

I'm a beginner. Do you need a heading hold gyro with a flybarless system?

[@deadsetmoto2699]

WHat top speed do these 570 get to? Over between 160 - 220 km/h i assume depending on motor torque and head speed?

[@crmodels]

Here it is on 6s. The newest video was 12s with a 23T pinion rocking 2600-2800rpm headspeed! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWnRcnp7nNxse9k

[@tattii421]

Hi Chris. Very nice and talented flying there. I just have a question about your head speed values, how are you calculating them and if motor efficiency is being considered. I am not getting same head speeds with your setup. Thanks

[@crmodels]

My setup or Kyle's? I am running a Castle Edge HV120 and Scorpion 4025-1100KV motor on 6s. I have the castle governed at Normal 1950 , Idle 1 at 2200, and Idle 2 at 2400 with stock 21T pinion. Transmitter set at Normal 0,30,30,30,30 Idle 1 at flat 70, and Idle 2 flat 100. Normal mode and Idle one are perfect, Idle 2 I an at 106% on the Castle. It's just about border line so I usually fly Idle 1 mostly but Idle 2 now and then for power climbs etc... Hope this helps?!?

[@user-zf2zf5ct8d]

12S motor with the number of T gear

[@K4rN1v00L]

And receivers?

[@utterlyexiged]

hey chris, how did you get the 2400 head speed?, sounds like your using a castle esc?. with the stock 21t pinion and 9.8:1 gear ratio i can only get to 2130 before the esc gov warns the headspeed is too high. im using the same 1100kv motor.

[@crmodels]

It was awesome at 2400. That was a few seasons ago and I can't remember but I think I had a 23T pinion on it to get that headspeed.

[@djlouis2150]

Where can I get a RTF version I just don't want to deal with setting up everything just want to plug and play??

[@crmodels]

They don’t make a ready to fly version of a 500 size heli and up. You need to buy all the electronics and build and setup the model yourself. If you don’t how how to build or setup a 550 size heli you shouldn’t be flying a heli of this caliber. One wrong move and it could kill you..

[@djlouis7402]

@@crmodels I have a omphobby m2 explore helicopter want to move up to a helicopter like the sad goblin 570 but just don't want to setup everything just plug and play

[@djlouis7402]

Just do regular flying and to injoy it

[@crmodels]

@@djlouis7402 Ya you won’t find a BNF heli bigger than a 470.

[@NivaldoRibeiro82]

it's not about 6s vs 12s, it's about 2400rpm vs Insane 2800rpm...

[@davidcarpenter31]

Just got my first goblin, Great Kit! made it for 6s with the Scorpion HK4025, noticed shaft is too long and the Flat on the shaft doesnt line up with pulley set screw. Do I have the correct motor, if so, wanted to know the precise way to grind the shaft.

[@crmodels]

All Scorpion motors come with long shafts and no slots cut out if them. The 4025 is a Very popular 550 size motor and can be used in many different helis. You will need to cut down the shaft and Dremel two flat spots onto the shaft for the pulley screws. There is a page in the manual showing you what you need to do :)

[@crmodels]

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[@gff1230]

Hi !! 6s battery 5000 & 5500 ~ discharge 45c or 65c , thanks!!

[@crmodels]

GF F Pulse 6S 5000mAh 45C

[@crmodels]

The first flight is me flying my G570 on 6s. The 2nd flight is Kyle Stacy beating his G570 on 12s!

[@MFizzle777]

Was the packs used in Kyle's flifgt 3000 or 3300mAh?

[@crmodels]

3300's

[@MFizzle777]

Thanks for that it helps.

[@mattmalenda6585]

this puts my 100 $ eXtreme heli to shame

[@K4rN1v00L]

What tx are y'all using?

[@crmodels]

Futaba 8FG, 14SG and 18MZ with 6303 S-bus receivers

[@K4rN1v00L]

I would almost paypal you money to get a video of a full 14sg/cgy750 setup dx9 was easy on vbar but heard good things about futaba just trying it

[@user-zf2zf5ct8d]

12S电机 配合多少T齿轮

[@neilpro18]

Looks expensive

[@brianlempriere2683]

6s v 12s means nothing, exactly same headspeed and performance can be achieved by using diferent g/r is used,, and total watt hrs of cell is equal, its vxa = watts

[@guglielmodicarlo4139]

I know it takes insane skill to fly one of these,,,, but Im sorry, I just dont get it,,,?? like a stoned firefly?? Ive been flying rc my whole life,, just dont get it,, i suppose it looks normal to the guys that do this type of thing, but to me a spectator,, just seems annoying and erratic,, like its going to crash all the time,, lol guess thats the point ha?

[@aevans692]

Fail ..... I noticed the speeded up video ...

[@crmodels]

That's real time my friend! Have you never seen a Kyle Stacy video?!? Will record him again this week and I will narrate the entire flight for all you non believers :)

[@1DreamWarrior]

Chris Reibert Guys, I am flabbergasted at both of your flying - wonderful vid, well done and lovely share