SAB Goblin Kraken 580 Build

In this video we build the SAB Kraken 580! What a incredible Model and SAB build quality is unmatched. The kraken 580 with Torq servos, Xnova motor, Hobbywing ESC and iKon 2 FBL is the perfect combo on 6s. Plenty of power and Agility as well as quick cyclic response.
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[@DetoursRC]

Nice. Mines still in the box. I got the same servos and motor but im putting a spirit 2 with srxl2 in mine. The integration worked great on my raw 420. Waiting on my mini torq washers they were on backorder at helidirect.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Very nice! You need to get it built! I’ve heard good things about spirit 2 FBL units! They are very similar to IKon from what I’ve been told.

[@RC_Aviator]

5:26 ugh beautiful. Well done. If i didnt want to build my 580 myself I would send it to you haha.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! If you ever change your mind and want me to build one for you, let me know!

[@CrenSpirit]

Kraken might be my next SAB! You do fantastic builds, so clean. My Raw 580 is scheduled for delivery tomorrow, hyped for the build!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! The Kraken 580 is awesome! I got to put quite a few flights on this one and I will say I am extremely happy with it.

[@moindyasrbuizniz5539]

​​@@westhobbiesrc8051Would you get away with a 100a Hobbywing esc? Theyre out of stock of the 120's almost everywhere i check where i dont have to deal with customs and duty etc. Wouldnt be flying it very hard on 6s. Also im torn between a trex 550x for €1100 or Kraken 580 for €1430-1460 depending on esc. Could you advise? I am in love with the look of 580 and hate the look of 550x but its a lot cheaper to buy and maintain. Also if i go for the 580 the motor ive chosen is hslf the price of a scorpion at €165, will it fit? (Bolt hole placement im worried about) heres the specs. Diameter Motor: 50mm Length Motor: 53mm Diameter Shaft : 6mm Length Shaft: 40mm RPM: 1100 KV Lipo max.: 6S Poles: 12N10P Weight: 354g Holes: 2x M3/25mm and 2xM4/30mm Maximum Current: 105A (Peak: 125A / 2 seconds) Maximum Power: 2520W (Peak: 3000W / 2 seconds) Sorry about the long message but im a tad clueless. Thanks!

[@larrychamel]

If your Builds weren't Perfect, Jeff... you get another Kraken at it. LOL

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Lol that’s funny!

[@toadiscoil]

Oh yeah more SAB

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

SAB is king!

[@dmitryrussian]

Right day after tomorrow I'll build my Kraken 580 with the next setup: x-nova 4025 1120 kv shaft b, HW 150A ESC, 3x KST 915, KST 905 v2, Brain2. So we are on the same way :)

[@dmitryrussian]

And yes, 4651T receiver. Already got my IX14. I do not understand- how you link external SRLX v2 satellites to this receiver.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Very nice! You will be very happy with that helicopter and the set up. The perfect combination in my opinion! You plug the SRXL2 into CH3 and the satellite into the side “ satellite“ port.

[@dmitryrussian]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 Thank you :) Forgot about satellite ports.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

You’re welcome!

[@dmitryrussian]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 I plug extra power from HW 150 into CH2. It shloud be good :) And my satellites are 9747, have 2 on Kraken. "Horizon Hobby Inc" promises that satellites got extra sensitivity without external antenna, lets see.

[@Cromer8555]

My buddy is still wondering where the T15 flight video is. He has his flying pretty well.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

It will be up next week! Thank you for reminding me, I actually forgot about that video.

[@Cromer8555]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 No problem, love all your content. Thank you for all the hard work.

[@tomgjonaj9965]

I want to build a kraken 580, but I’m worried it’s not longer going to be supported due to it being a few years old. Should I go for a RAW 500 instead ?

[@DreCargill93]

Do you mainly work with SAB helis? I would love to see a tron, Xl power or soxos build and review from you.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I build what ever people want. Lately it’s been all SAB but I do have a Tron on the way and just got in a XL550. I would love to build a Soxos!

[@andre-dx4yw]

i just got this heli, will be my 2nd build im not a 3d pilot indeed im barely past the hovering stage! this heli will be 6s on hobbywing 120a scorpion 1100kv, my cyclis servos are the xlpower ds512hv do you think these servos will be ok with this build i really cant find much info about them. thanks

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Awesome! It’s a incredible model. Yes, those servos should be okay. You can always change the out later to better ones if need be.

[@shahram677]

Hey buddy,I saw you have different FBL system,if you wanna buy new which one you prefer and why? Also I’m going to buy Trex 470 as third heli because of cheap parts price ,I have m2 evo and Trex 650 right now Do u have any suggestions?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Hello! So I run iKon 2 FBL units on all my helis. Personally that is my go to FBL unit. They are a great price and packed full of options! Full telemetry with a Hobbywing or other Telemetry ESC. Full tune ability, Auto level as well as rescue. Full immigration with the transmitter so you can do on the fly programming/adjustments with a capable transmitter. Like spektrum or Radiomaster or Frsky. Data logging, you can have a full live analyst of your machine especially with vibrations as well as a checklist. That is the FBL unit In my Trex 470.

[@shahram677]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 it was very nice and helpful I’m going to order Trex 470 today,like I said earlier it’s because of inexpensive part price and I would have more confidence to practice 3d Do you have any other suggestion? And also do you think the FC6250HX could be your second option after Ikon2?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@shahram677 the Trex 470 is a fantastic heli! Love mine, it’s fly’s amazing now with the iKon FBL. I bought it for the same reason, cheap to beat on and practice with! You can’t beat how cheap the parts are. So my only choice of FBL is iKon/Brain FBL. Now the 6250 is not a bad FBL at all and works great. I’ve not played with it enough to really know other then on my Fusion 360. There really isn’t a bad FBL unit on the market today it really all boils down to personal choice in what suits you the best.

[@shahram677]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 Awesome!, I was waiting for your reply, I gonna order right now

[@jonathanpascal7437]

why use both satellites? is the SRXL2 rx alone not good enough? I'm asking because I would like to have telemetry on my own Kraken 580 and I was wondering why the two?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Redundancy, yes technically speaking you could get away with just the SRXL2. But there is a lot of carbon fiber and areas for signal to be blocked.

[@jonathanpascal7437]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 oh ok so they both work in tandem with each other. Thank you so much for your reply man!! btw I love the build videos, I've learned quite a bit from your vids.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Yes, they both work in sync with each other. I look at it as an insurance policy. If for whatever reason one fails you still have the other. You get zero holds zero fade which is incredible! I have flown very far away and never wash RX for even a second. I have had so many different failures over the years so I try to build and think of everything of what could go wrong and make sure it does not go wrong! Thank you! I am glad the videos are helpful and I could teach you some thing. Greatly appreciate it!

[@owntor1]

Can this heli be setup for a beginner?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Any heli can be setup for a beginner but I would not recommend a Kraken or any 580/600 for a beginner just because of crash cost.

[@azrieltapias9510]

Just out of curiosity. Have you ever tried a mikado set up?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Yes I have, I actually have a Vcontrol coming very soon to do some videos on and play with.

[@azrieltapias9510]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 I have been waiting for this moment (in which feels like my whole life haha) for you to show and explain set ups and flight characteristics! Thanks for the response!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@azrieltapias9510 I’ve been waiting a while (long while lol) to play with a bar again, it’s been years. Way before I did KZbin. So hopefully I can make some good videos for you!

[@rkspeedSicario]

Do you build these for anyone?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@rkspeedSicario yes, I will build them for anyone. Can build what ever you want.

[@rkspeedSicario]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 very nice. I’m wanting to build one of these Karen 580’s and willing to follow your recommendations on how set it up. That way when I get it I know for sure it’s done right.

[@toadiscoil]

Oh and I made first again hehehe

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Notifications on!

[@Scenium]

Awww shit! I'm glad I watched this video. The dumbass I am, I was running My Xnova motor on 10 poles on My Vbar setup. 😵🫣 I hope I haven't damaged it? 😬🤷 My first build was the 380 Buddy with a 10P Xnova motor, and I guess I just assumed the motor for the 580 was also a 10P?! 🤯🤦

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

So every motor is different with the pole count. You won’t damage the motor from running a higher pole count. It will run hotter and make less power. Also depending on your governor most of the time you divide the pole count in half. So with iKon governor, you would run a 8 pole motor at 4. A 10 pole motor at 5 and so on.

[@Scenium]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 Thanks! Hopefully I haven't run the motor to hot since I'm flying at a lower rpm. I'm flying at about 1800rpm, and mostly sport flying with the occasional loop here and there. At least I thought it was 1800, now I have to adjust it again. Haven't flown in about a month because of the south Swedish winter weather.(mostly rain) 😕 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnmufmSHbrStatE

[@Scenium]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 Thanks again! I got to fly my 580 today after adjusting the pole count, and the headspeed was at about 2200 when I thought it was 1800! No wonder i got vibration warnings when flying with bigger main/tail blades. Of course it would be even worse in Bank 2 and 3, but i didn't test them out.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@Scenium what size blades are you running? I have run 2400 RPM on the Kraken 580 with the 580mm blades. No vibration or issues. Check and make sure your blades are balanced and no bent shafts!

[@Scenium]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 1st 580 main blades, and 105 tail blades. 105 are recommended for below 2000rpm. Haven't crashed, so shouldn't be any bent shafts.