Face The Nation | Rwanda on DRC/ Lamola on tensions between Rwanda and SA/Holomisa on SANDF

[@munyehirwejeanpaul7814]

What a journalist 👏🙌👌! I love you man ❤!

[@OlivierKabalisa]

Best one

[@OlivierKabalisa]

Great one❤!

[@hyacintheebula835]

This is the best Journalist in this matter so far

[@navytune]

Rwandan Defense Force (RDF) is the same army that liberated Rwanda by stopping the 1994 genocide against the Tutsi. The genocide still took over 1M Tutsis and Hutus who didn’t join the genocidal mission. This happened at the watch of the whole international community! 31 years later, they still have the same primary mission: To protect Rwanda and its 14M united people. I find it highly aggressive (or at the least, so reckless or maybe even jealous) for a president to call one of the best organized and professional armies on the continent, a militia!

[@DAVIDBOXTV-v6x]

Not continent only Even in the whole world

[@nelsonchinasamy9857]

Bro I am not from your part of the world but I know quite well what happened there. The AU and the whole cowardly world just sat and watched while a million people died. The Rwandan people brought an and end to the genocide themselves. Not only did they do that they also rebuilt their country and today Rwanda is the cleanest country in Africa with a fast developing infrastructure. They rebuilt from Ashes while most of the rest of Africa, including South Africa are going the other way around. You have a right to protect your country.

[@muensfils9279]

Paul Kagame was never a soldier, he is a terrorist, a bloodthirsty man, a thief, a genocidal man, a liar and manipulator of the first order, who caused and provoked the death of Tutsis to obtain power, who committed a genocide of the Congolese and Rwandan Hutus in the Congo, a plunderer of minerals in the Congo for the benefit of the imperialist Westerners.

[@gaelluela3636]

Rwanda is poor and need the resources from DRC and they use this as a scapegoat

[@bernob7]

Thanks Clement for asking great questions.

[@mohlomphehi]

Wow, actual journalism still exists in the SABC. I never thought I would see this from mainstream media. It's refreshing to see strongly opposing views being interogated versus bringing onesided view/narrative.

[@p.kibambe_Africa]

Then everyone can understand from Lamola that H.E Kagame was totally right in everything he said to E.A.C zoom meeting.

[@jesusislove1272]

Mbeki lies on this one,banya mulenge never been a tribe in congo,mulenge is a mountain in drc that was occupied by Hutu and tutsi that run away from Kagame genocide,either hutu or tutsi none of them are congolse

[@jesusislove1272]

if mbeki said they run from rwanda after committing genocide then when did they become congoleses???

[@jesusislove1272]

Kagame never spoke to true,he's hired by Europeans to loot congo minerals,the truth will remain the truth no one can change this

[@jesusislove1272]

Kagame himself never admit his soldiers are illegally in congo???

[@jesusislove1272]

did kagame now admit that his soldiers are in congo?? becauces he never admit they were in congo.

[@johnsonmugabohabimana294]

The greatest journalist of our time. Seriously... tough questions on both sides, and let us viewers decide!!

[@MrKirundo]

This journalist is professionalist indeed,

[@samueljohannes4354]

Very very professional and much educated

[@jackiemnirere3382]

I am Rwandan, so proud of this African journalist❣️woow! Keep it up brother👌

[@garrewarrior]

You must FDLR

[@Dr.DennisMulumbaprophet]

Rwanda is not invited by Congolese government but South Africa is officially invited.

[@vivijuno6146]

And so what?

[@alfredphamotse1316]

@@vivijuno6146 Rwanda is in many different countries as peacekeepers, should it be an eye for an eye 😊😊😊😊😊😊...

[@vivijuno6146]

@@alfredphamotse1316 and south africa is invited to keep peace not to fight for the government but they choose to fight alongside mercenaries including fdlr

[@niwamanyatrevor4645]

South Africa are mercenaries fighting for money

[@didymaxi5417]

Please do you want Kagame to bow to everyone who accuse him of supporting M23.he is a man,Rwanda is his family and the real man defend his family desparetly.Kagame is a real man.he defend his country until his last breath.he can never betray his country.

[@karabomakofane8376]

It doesn’t take a genius to figure out the state of M23 & Rwanada, the president and his ministers gymnastics don’t display being “a real man” as you say, they should stand on business and own their truth. We have boots on the ground, that’s all they need to say. I’d respect him more

[@ignancenshimiyimana8267]

That's the point of the question for you all who want to know about this man our gift 🇷🇼🇷🇼🇷🇼🇷🇼💪💪💪✍️

[@hlumilemjacu4176]

But your minister doesn't denied that they are supporting rebels M23 , secondly Rwanda is the frnd of Isarial,our enemies

[@Jazz-fg2dm]

The rebels are wearing Rwandan military uniforms and they are military equipped by the Rwandan army. Why ?

[@NEZA138]

Really Kagame has a reason to defend his territory but SA is under Peace agreement but after getting in the place of battle Ramaphosa forces were manipulated by Kinshasa regime and SANDEF fight alongside the Enemy of M23 and Rwanda where killed innocent Congolese called Rwandan Tutsi.😮

[@ishimwepacifique8444]

Fun how smart man like him can't answer if SA is fighting alongside FdLR or not poor leaders wahala

[@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074]

South Africa must stop talking and deal with Kagame.

[@nizeyimanavincent5317]

Can they really 😂😂😂 m 23 is dealing with south Africa seriously

[@glynmwiya6175]

That's impossible

[@alexmunanira8497]

They should first deal with M23😂

[@alexmunanira8497]

South Africa knows how they can face fire.

[@TshepoMotale]

We not gona fight for tshisekedi😅, why is he not managing what's going on in his country as a president

[@respectbe-nice5830]

This journalist 🤯 hands down super professional!

[@JohnRujema]

Thabo Mbeki is the man telling us the truth about the whole scenario of the two countries. The rest leaders come only to talk politics. Kudos Mr Mbeki

[@Jazz-fg2dm]

And what is the truth in a few sentences ?

[@MarcJoel-m3r]

Mbeki knows nothing about Drcongo. Kagame and the west have created the narrative that the whole world is busy repeating like parrots. M23 rebels are all Rwandans and are a proxy military faction of Kagame. Congolese are not rebels and will never kill each other with guns

[@rebeccabipenduramazani5227]

With all my respect to Mr Mbeki,he doesn't know the story,1M23 aren't Congolese,there has never been a tribe called banyamulenge,they are refugees as us here in SA,2. during Mobutu govement all Rwandan who came before independence were given nationality,like they were naturalized cose the UN pressed Mobutu to do so,because NATO wanted ourinerals,during the division of Afrique Rwanda was part of Congo,Germany asked to be given a small part of Congo and they gave him Rwanda,by then it was only hutus,the tutsi came afterwards and The huts welcomed them,after that they started to kill them and so forth,in 1994 Kagame did the genocide helped by NATO. NATO asked Mobutu to take Hutus for some time but it was a trape to come and conquer Congo afterwards, when Laurent Kabila come to power Kagame gave him some tutsis to be in the government,when he refused they killed him and put Hippolite Kanambe(Joseph Kabila)a Rwandan national,he gave Rwandan nationals the nationality ( a mass naturalization in 2006,they were occupying high ranked positions,Mr Mbeki talking about Twane people,I've never heard Tswane fighting SA and king Mswati coming to fight SA,why didn't you call a Congolese minister or a congolese to explain,those people are born liars they never tell the truth,were going to fight,we know we're fighting NATO BUT we're going to win. FDLR are dead,Rwanda came in Congo to trake them for 5 years during Kanambes reign how come they are still there,RDF is a militia in Congo.

[@KenMukendi-o4b]

Can you take Zimbabwean refugees to be fighting in demanding a south african land after 50 years of being In the country

[@trevor3131]

We (South Africans) deserve better leadership.

[@DanielBandile]

Because this leadership it afraid to make hard decision

[@mudahungajoshua1976]

like Kagame paul

[@NanaCoeur-s5b]

Africa is proud of you Mr journalist You are so professional!!!! Others should learn from you

[@neophuthi8545]

The man is refusing to answer a simple question,Come on Rwanda!!

[@oscarmoyana8401]

He's not answering no questions...now we know that Rwanda 🇷🇼 backs M23

[@vivijuno6146]

​@@oscarmoyana8401as you backs DRC wich is supporting hutu genocidal arms who killed tutsi in rwanda

[@BigBossEntertnmt]

Very clear

[@vivijuno6146]

@@oscarmoyana8401 of course they are backs them ,as Thabo Mbeki said south africa is fighting for FDRL

[@1844kalume]

Don't be deceived Kagame is a Tutsi. M23 is Tutsi too. M23 and Rwanda are one and the same. Kagame is a fox. Believe him at your own risk. Kagame wants to take the Congo because of its resources full stop. Everything else is a pretext and huge lie. Don't trust Kagame.

[@shungujohnjames5342]

Thanks to the journalist for beautiful questions it's prouves the levels

[@PrisonnierdeChrist]

I am a congolese living in Durban. You are the current best journalist in South Africa

[@Stephenzangwa]

What is real happening there

[@huberttwizere3755]

what a professional Journalist ❤❤ This man is genius. SA and Rwanda we are all brothers

[@nkurikiyeeric9554]

OBVIOUSLY!!We are more than ready to take you down with your rumours ,keep spreading your speech for us we are in the position. #Our flag🇷🇼🇷🇼 does not fly because the wind moves it , it flies with the last breath of each SOLDIERS who died Protecting # he speaks on behalf of Rwandan, the truth is stored in Belgium and French and UN , so if South Africa wanted to involve in this matters as Rwandan we are here as we know that the conflicts are affecting us , but you South Africa you are putting business and benefits on the table but we are to fight for the reality

[@isaacsihlangu5497]

Disagreements should be accepted in conversations. Both ministers failed to clarify sensitive matters. Let's avoid being dragged by matters that can be resolved verbally. Let's stand for a United Rwanda, DRC, and South Africa. It remains the prerogative of a Head of State to invite any army to fight against any enemies they don't like. We as citizens need to vocal about divisions initiated by our leaders. As a proud South African, know that my country will remain ready to extend an olive branch to you as a proud Rwandan.

[@mpumelelophungula3797]

On business and benefits, how does it happen that Rwanda becomes an exporter of minerals that do not exist in her soil? Keep calling for war and you might just get it. But I advise strongly against it.

[@Kundaiteka123]

M23 are not Tutsi refugees from 1994, but they were Rwandans that found themselves in DRC after redrawing borders by Belgium colonialists, at the time they become Congolese

[@alinomunongo8430]

Not true...As a Tutsi Congolese, I disagree because many of those we ssaw coming in 1994, now call themselves Congolese. Most of the time, are the ones creating chaos together with Kagame

[@Djdimeja]

​@@alinomunongo8430banyamulenge are Congolese Tutsis found in eastern Congo and your general Musunzu is one of them I don't forget former Prime minister Rubera and Alex Gisaro

[@rukundorwiza5223]

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[@chilungamokambilinya-3491]

Why is Rwanda invading DRC?

[@Lepototo195]

Congolese are xenophobic

[@Godagaba9907]

At the very least, We can all agree that describing a sovereign nation's army as a "militia" is just foul. Who is in charge of president Ramaphosa's Advisory/PR team?

[@azonvilakazi5934]

Ramaposa if be true that he uttered that . That wa carelessness on his part and reflection why SA has not moved an inch his tenure as a president. SA must apologize

[@skoombatouch]

That is why he has not uttered a word ever since

[@isaacsihlangu5497]

I agree with you. Upon careful examination, no matter how angry Kgamame was, Ramaphosa was not supposed to call another country's army as militia

[@Jonathan_kisoka14]

I always tell myself that South africa is a second home for me. It is a place where I grew up and studied and met my first love, and today I can see that S.A. is really a sweet second home for me. Thank you, South africa, for supporting us. "la patrie ou la mort nous vaincrons" homeland or death we will conquer✊️🇨🇩❤️🇿🇦 

[@fikilemonnye2636]

you are welcomed my brother, come to SA quickly

[@OlivierKabalisa]

Don't wish what you can't handle 😂

[@paulgwethndjicki1272]

President Paul Kagame: A man is what he does and what he thinks

[@godfreyrwanyarare3647]

Clement you are the journalist that we need!❤❤❤❤

[@iyamuremyeeugene9612]

This SABC journalist should first educate himself about what a genocide is. How can a sensible person compare genocidaires FDLR to freedom fighters M23? This is not ignorance but cruelty.

[@CURTISPEMBA]

So what your army killing in congo they are not human being more then 6million of people dying raping women you just have to stop victimizing your self

[@Ai-creation-l3u]

​@@CURTISPEMBAdo you have proof of what you're saying or just talking rubbish?

[@ngonidzashechoko491]

South Africa must stop fueling problems in Congo and Rwanda as they did in Zimbabwe, take your soldiers back to your country

[@enockrukundo1118]

This time ~ the international community can understand why Rwanda had to put in place strong defensive measures to safeguard its territory! A cocktail of blood-thirst militias combined with European mercenaries and rented armies from SADC (SA, Tanzania, Malawi) & Burundi-all pointing guns in one direction…! Any serious government would have no other alternative but to defend itself!

[@nocwakavuyelwaportiaxezu9780]

Well done to the journalist for doing a great job

[@niyoemmanuel7893]

This coverage is spot on. Thanks, SABC News, for shedding light on the real situation between Rwanda and DRC

[@mikeradebe9692]

Theeee best journalist ever in South Africa 🇿🇦 ❤❤❤

[@shungujohnjames5342]

Is the the FDLR 15 OR 17 MILLIONS that are killed or they are willing to kill Congolese and how can kagame can kagame know that this one is FDLR or Congolese? because those FDLR they left rwanda there is 3 decades that they left rwanda?

[@vivijuno6146]

Ask the question properly

[@BigBossEntertnmt]

Correct

[@CommonBase-s7g]

FDRL is a Rwanda troop and are from Rwanda. Why Rwanda did not negotiate with it own citizens? Rwanda have only two (2) ethnic groups, Tutsi and Hutu. Rwanda current government protect Tutsi and Marginalize Hutu and imported their conflict in DRC plus Minerals interest and territorial control

[@CapricornCapricorn-v5g]

We're not Hutu, Tutsi, we're Rwandans After Genocide.so we can't accept again that propaganda of of Division in our country.but sometimes anyone who need to come is Allowed

[@georgedaniel8823]

FDLR are genociders, and M23 are fighting for their right to exist in a land they have lived in for over 3000 years. DO YOUR RESEARCH !

[@ntwaraneadolphe5850]

​@@CapricornCapricorn-v5gTrue that let him know a bit

[@Floratv250]

Get to know, FDRL are genocides , they should come home and normally tell them to come and face justice. But no negotiations

[@frankkamanzi8627]

Rwandan government was and is ready to negotiate with FDRL but remember FDRL is genociders and they fear that that they be asked what did and that forced them not to agree negotiation and decided carry out guns by the support of DRC to overthrow government of Rwanda

[@niwamanyatrevor4645]

South Africa are mercenaries fighting for money

[@mpumelelophungula3797]

Please don't insult our soldiers and country. We have an inherent interest in any war on the continent. We often have to accept refugees that result from these sort of conflicts.

[@EmallAfrica_3]

Clement's questions are straight forward. Its a yes or no type of questions but both ministers are having too much explanation 😅

[@mananammalegae]

Clement is trying to make it easy as ABC but the politicians are refusing 😮😅

[@sanelekhulaphi1007]

Ronald's legal skills are coming handy..big up to South Africa..

[@emmanuelmanaka287]

Clément the best journalist ever...bravo🎉

[@Africa2-i2l]

You can never mess with kagame and go like that

[@jobokiswasua6349]

The South African Broadcasting Corporation (SABC) is fundamentally a public broadcaster that serves the interests of South Africa. In situations like this, it is essential for the SABC to promote narratives that align with the country's objectives. Just as broadcasters in Israel, the United States, and Europe advocate for their national interests, the SABC should similarly focus on advancing South Africa's narrative. It is crucial for the SABC to remain committed to its role as a national broadcaster and to refrain from actions that could undermine its purpose.

[@Tadious-x3t]

SABC must lie in the name of aligning with the government, right?

[@Allusernamestake1000]

Who determines what the country's objectives are? If it is the government ( humans who are prone to flaws and corruption), what happens when the narrative they want is against your interests? Should SABC stick to government narratives?

[@SamuelMangwana]

It was Rebranded to Independent and impartial

[@clementmpushe5957]

well said. they are mostly looking for browny points at the expense of our government maybe our history and out current political situation has something to do with it

[@jobokiswasua6349]

This is a concerning example of journalism. The questions being posed seem to be influenced by a specific agenda, attempting to portray South Africa as incapable of fulfilling its mission in the DRC. Additionally, Rwanda is exporting minerals that are not even found in its territory, which constitutes theft on an international scale. This situation is being overlooked.

[@PhionahIngabireM]

What evidence do u have to accuse Rda of such sir??

[@finewell5200]

Kagame ❤

[@samueljohannes4354]

Big hand to this journalist 👏🙏💯

[@jacquelinenyirabazayire7990]

Président Kagame repeting that M23 are not Rwandan, they are Congolees !! Who has right to still them their own nationality ??

[@GusBary]

Mr journalist, you are a professional, thank you sir. You (or rather, I guess, your editorial line?) are not just following blindly the politics of our government out of empty patriotism, even if the SABC is funded or in part by the South African government.... you are asking real questions which make our decision makers think. Constructive criticism is not lack of patriotism and unfortunately this accountability or questioning and sometimes positive criticism is lacking in many of our African politics, therefore oppression on one form or another continues. As for your question of the day, "What approach do you thin the South African government should take in response to the diplomatic escalation with Rwanda?", I still believe South Africa has a moral stand internationally, I am sure even Rwanda would agree at least until recently, it has hailed South Africa in the highest esteem in the past. Let's face it, this DRC's context is exposing South Africa's distortion of its moral authority. Let SANDF stay in MONUSCO's context, despite MONUSCO weakness or vulnerability, this is not an easy mission; dismantle this so called "Force Intervention Brigade", which is Tshisekedi's tool to promote personal interest, his and some individuals such as Zuma, Ramaphosa & Ndayishimiye and some Western businesses, for sure not for all Congolese interest, regardless of ethnic make up. Protect all civilians not selectively as it is your case now. You may have been invited by a legitimate government though you sought the cover of the UN, and this is the government we have, it deserves to be recognised. You can't do as if you don't know that this same government is working or has even integrated UN sanctioned militia and african haters into the national army. History is being written.... and please don't underestimate Rwanda, some think of the size🤫 you may not agree with the president, and it is ok, but step back from the war in the region, don not pretend to come to bring peace, neutrality is one of the characteristics, seeking for negotiation and reconciliation too.... sit down, at least out of your experience, with the great and the small. Consult more wisely, I still respect you.

[@inyinya-tv5854]

We all know that 🇿🇦 and 🇷🇼 can end this DRC conflict. Don't joke with people who are fighting for their freedom

[@enockrukundo1118]

South Africa was sent to fight Armed groups, they ended up protecting mines and fighting natives. Natives fought back and South Africa surrendered. You can't fight a war against natives on their land and win!

[@Jazz-fg2dm]

Which natives ? Have you seen natives fighting ?

[@nyanisomaki5100]

That's incorrect. SANDF was sent to DRC as part of SADC peace keeping mission, with the primary task of protecting the civilian population.

[@enockrukundo1118]

@Jazz-fg2dm #M23: “We are in Goma to stay. We are Congolese. We shall continue the march of liberation to Kinshasa. When they ask us to retreat, where do they want us to retreat to? We are not going anywhere.”

[@nomvuyokalenga4333]

Stay in DRC not in M23 land that is theirs 😮

[@enockrukundo1118]

@nomvuyokalenga4333 M23 are Congolese. This is simple! South Africa is busy trying to fight natives in their land?! They will never win this war 🪖 They are going to move out of DRC with shame ~ soon and very soon ✨

[@musoneraberlin1677]

Absolutely..seems like Thabo Mbeki was born there....he explains this issue perfectly......that is exactly how that matter is, but some leaders lik Ramaphosa doesnt have any clue about. Or he just pretends

[@kindstanley4608]

We all know that thabo was corrupt in 2003 agreements in Sun City in Congo there’s no problem between Tutsi and Congolese because even the minister of infrastructure in Congo is tsusi,M23 is Rwanda defence force masking them to be Congolese,FDLR does not exist in Congo and if they’re exist why they haven’t attacks Rwanda…if u know kagame he act to be innocent while his Murdered killing innocent people.

[@vicky-j4p7c]

So do you think Ramaphosa is stupid

[@musoneraberlin1677]

@vicky-j4p7c no, i did not say that. Mbeki knows better about that conflicts than him

[@kyria40]

Thabo mbeki did not explain perfectly. In mobutu's time, the chef of his cabinet was from Rwanda, and président mubutu gave them nationality in groups. Right now as we are speaking, thre are a lot of generals in congolese army are from Rwanda.Thabo mbeki left some truths apart. .... the situation is very complex in this conflict.

[@musoneraberlin1677]

@kyria40 no no am sorry bro or sister....in Mobutu s time, there were no Rwandan in his cabinet, he even hated them alot, so actually this congolese conflict has its roots from borders making in berlin conference. But to be honest this issue is very easy to address as Mbeki explains it better.

[@Nova-1206]

Professional journalist 💯

[@bulabuladieramy278]

if those m23 are congolese so what Rwanda army is doing in congo?

[@PhionahIngabireM]

Who said there is Rwanda army in Congo in the first place???

[@Fujitora-ve5dz]

Images, UN reports, DRC reports reports from other countries in the Region

[@mukundentesandy614]

The Rwandan Army is not in Congo, this is pure misinformation, and exactly what the western media wants to show you

[@PhionahIngabireM]

@@Fujitora-ve5dz What is SA forces doing there since they can't even keep the peace they claim took them? Embarrassing Just!

[@bellab1924]

Who told u that Rwanda is in Congo?M23 are congolese,A minority tribe that has been denied by congolese gvmnt,being killed ,fled the country because of killings and tried to come back but Congo keep on denying them

[@JonathanRKWANO]

journalism must be like this👌Thanks Clement👏👏👏

[@jesuschristsauve7401]

Who appointed Kagame to come fight for congolese tusti?

[@mmmxxxdddxxx9627]

beautiful question

[@alphonsemuhirwa6208]

Who told you he is fighting for Congolese. If he fights he would be fighting for his life and his people . Our enemy is on our border and has made it clear that he wants to end our life.

[@stevenmuvunyi7142]

Did you even listen to the conversation to at least get yourself informed before asking silly questions?

[@emmanuelmanaka287]

Kagame's army in the DRC is considered as malicious and negative force that any nation that promote peace in the world such as south Africa will never agree with. And there is no explanation of their army presence there. KAGAME should be ashamed one day the congo will have a strong leader that will resolve this issue and his country will pay back.

[@johnmunina6429]

The best Journalist ever

[@YANGAFLIMS]

Professional journalist your the best

[@ashenafilegesse4266]

The best journalist by so far.

[@thisandthat-s6s]

I am congolese but i love kagame he is a kind person who fights for truth

[@1844kalume]

Please clarify you are Congolese? Are you a Tutsi Congolese? Kagame is Tutsi. Just clarify that please.

[@1844kalume]

Rwandan Hutu and Rwanda Tutsi are Rwandan. They should both return return to Rwanda. Leave the Congo alone.

[@thierryt.9163]

From where?

[@Pelodie]

I'm tusti and I love Tshisekedi and I don't approve of Kagame. He does have any business in DRC, he is not the police for tutsi s.

[@francoisnizeyimana5346]

My first time to see this journalist , but he is professional.

[@jameskillu9171]

President Kagame is asking VALID question, What is SA army doing in Congo, why is SA army fighting on the same side with HIRED MERCENARIES.

[@karabomakofane8376]

What is the Rwandan army doing in Mozambique. It’s nonsensical for him to Ben say that. He says diplomacy but they put boots on the ground then question why other states have boots in the same country your troops are firing mortars in….nonsensical or should I say….politics

[@vicky-j4p7c]

If you do know they are Israel ,Polish,BRITISH AND French

[@jabuxaba9777]

@@karabomakofane8376 only if you noted the fundamental aspect of james' questioning..........WHY IS SA ARMY FIGHTING ON THE SAME SIDE WITH HIRED MERCENARIES..........IF THEY ARE THERE FOR PEACEKEEPING?

[@clementmpushe5957]

@@jabuxaba9777 rwanda is deliberately throwing in the fog of war here. south africa is there for peace keeping that's their only mandate. i don't think it would be fair for a country of our size to fight against a country like rwanda which makes up 1/30 of our gdp. so no we're not fighting anybody we are peace keeping and kagame does not like that because he wants that land thats all.

[@amakgoale]

What are the Rwanda troops doing in Mozambique they are invited as much as SANDF is also invited in DRC

[@Zanzolo]

Where is the SADC Chair(Zimbabwe) & SADC Troika Chair(Tanzania), they are missing in action.

[@nomvuyokalenga4333]

Thank you very much dor the information

[@mariushodaridieudonne8105]

Congrats Mr Journalist. You are doing your best. You've stumbled a couple of times (that's human no problem) but you're the best compared to the dozens of other journalists I watched who tackled this issue. Who is M23? These are the sons and daughters of Congolese Tutsis who where persecuted, looted and killed by genocidaires forces who fled their country in 1994 after killing more than 1 million people in Rwanda. They were defeated by RPA, the current RDF that stopped the genocide against Tutsis in Rwanda. When Ex-FAR and the militia INTERAHAMWE, the current FDLR fled Rwanda, they were received with their weapons by DR Congo (Zaire) and sheltered them at less than 6-10 KM from the border of Rwanda. For your information, when colonialists drew the borders, big part of Rwanda was annexed to Congo and the population in that area and that's how Congo got Congolese Banyarwanda (Tutsis, Hutus and Twas). Ever since they were persecuted by the Congolese government accusing them to be Rwandans. In 1994 when the genocidaires forces fled to Congo after killing their fellow Tutsis in Rwanda, they started doing the same in Congo by the support of the Congolese government and this led to the Congolese Tutsis fleeing to Rwanda, Uganda, Burundi (that harassed and killed them in Gatuma massacre) and Kenya where they still live today in Refugee camps: Kiziba, Mahama, Nyabiheke, Kigeme and Gisagara refugee camps in Rwanda; Kakuma and Dadaab refuggee camps in Kenya; Nakivale, Kyangwali, Kyaka and Rwamwanja refugee camps in Uganda. Others are spread everywhere in Africa including South Africa. These people have been trying to defend themselves since 1960s (Banyamulenge-Tutsis) till today in different forms but they faced many challenges. I suspect if things continue like this, this tribe will extinct. So they fight until their las soldier falls and for them it's for survival. I think South Africa should be cautious because it's helping the Congolese government to kill its citizens and this may bear historical consequences at a long run. South Africa through SADC (SIF) defeated them in 2012 and they fled to Uganda. But this time round reciprocally defeated SA, DRC, BURUNDI, FDLR, MERCENARIES AND WAZALENDO. As we talk now, all SAMIDRC contingents are in the hands of M23. South Africa may not tell it to its citizens but that's the truth. To prove it, ask SA when they will bring the bodies of their fallen soldiers. They will tell you that they are still planning for that. That's why President RAMAPHOSA was negotiating with President Kagame to use his influence and beg M23 for him in release the SA captured soldiers. I think SA should be serious and fight significant wars not just help governments to kill their own people, not support genocidaires FDLR, not fight alongside mercenaries, not fight alongside untrained civilians WAZALENDO, etc. SA is the father of Africa. It should be a very much respected country that does not mingle itself in petty issues that make its honor vanish. That's what I know about the DRC issues. I have included my opinions but most of the information can be verified through visiting the refugee camps I mentioned and research for those who want proof. For those who just want to challenge this, you can also come up with what you know and give us proof.

[@paultanui.k9270]

I'm with President Kagame 100%. He sees what others in the region aren't seeing, in this world there's nothing like peace but interest for others. For example, the continent has been suffering for time immemorial while the developed countries have been pretending not to see, or hear our suffering

[@goodenoughmofokeng2030]

Why is everyone not asking the real question: Why dont we list all companies in Congo and people who have business intrest in this region.....this would give an idea why are we pushing this so much and stop saying foreign when we should start 1st by looking at home ?

[@1844kalume]

Clement, I wish I could speak with you. The problem of Tutsis and Hutus is a Rwandan issues. Both should return back to Rwanda and fix their problems there, and leave Congo alone. Rwanda and M23 are one and the same. Trust no one.

[@stephanieuwase6225]

You are a professional journalist for sure, big up

[@christophernyathi2733]

The situation that you see in the eastern DRC is the same situation that people of Matebeland/Mthwakazi are facing in Zimbabwe. The government of Zimbabwe recognize them South Africans because of their history. Mark my words this war is coming to SADC region as well.

[@tnyati1542]

What do you mean?

[@Nzouyepa49]

This is nonsensical. The Zimbabwean gvt recognises people of Matebeleland as Zimbabweans. One of the vice-presidents is from there. Many ministers are from that region. But when the people from the region say they want to split the country, that attracts backlash from the people.

[@tauraidube]

And u work up from napping

[@jackngoyi9987]

In DRC there is no such thing as Tutsis being marginalized. That's a lie used by Kagame in power for 25years to justify his minerals looting enterprise. Our government and parliament has Tutsis

[@MarcJoel-m3r]

Congo has more 450 ethnic groups for centuries and none have ever been denied to be Congolese. Why the so called tsutsis are claiming to be denied? Simply because kagame doesn’t want them back in Rwanda in fear they will fight him to leave power. They are Rwandans and we will not tolerate them killing innocent people and wanting a piece of Congo

[@jjmbcongoafriquemonde7903]

With all due respect to President Mbekhi because I do like him a lot, but he has gotten this wrong: There is a significant legal case currently unfolding in the courts of Uganda about the citizenship of Banyarwanda that can help expose Kagame’s falsehoods regarding the claims made by the M23 in Congo. One might ask: If the M23 were genuinely fighting for the rights of Kinyarwanda-speaking Congolese, why did they not pursue legal avenues-just as people in Uganda are doing-rather than resorting to war and causing millions of deaths? Rwandan refugees who came in 1954 were well received, helped with land, prospered, were given Congolese citizenship and today have the most mansions and boats by lake Kivu. They were happy until Kagame and Museveni invaded the DRC for resources, using a Congolese citizen as front, reaching Kinshasa to topple Mobutu, massacring millions of Congolese people in the process to create space for occupation and replacement of people. This brings us to the agenda behind M23. If there is a people who can complain about a terrible mistreatment, injustice and abuse of their hospitality, it is Congolese people and I will include all these Rwandan Refugees of 1954 and their descendants whose many of their members also found death in these events that they did not create, but created by the Rwandan elite of today with a dark agenda of their own and who pretend today to protect them for discrimination perpetrated against them by the Congolese people. The M23, that armed militia organization that pretends to fight for the rights of discriminated Kinyarwanda speaking people in the Congo, is not other than an arm of Kagame in DRC made of 99% Rwandan troops that can easily blend with the Congolese Kynyarwanda speaking people to insure the continuing plunder of Congolese resources while at the same time fighting for territories rich in minerals and population replacement

[@brownsonjoneskache9803]

President Paul Kagame was talking about the threats he got from South Africa president Ramaphosa. Let us not deceive the viewers and listeners. The conflict is in between the brothers. To ignore the truth is stupid and irresponsible. The M23 denied the allegations that they are backed by the Rwandan forces. Let's stop hypocrites. There's Botswana speaking people in South Africa and in Namibia. What's wrong with that?

[@IbrahimAbdikadir-q1y]

What is the interest of SA forces in Eastern Congo?

[@Djdimeja]

everyone fights defending Congo gets Minerals

[@thereallimphose110]

They were invited by the president of drc.

[@MarcJoel-m3r]

Billions of Rands. Congo has more minerals than any country in Africa and Europe combined

[@anoliverolivier9427]

minerals

[@nomvuyokalenga4333]

Maybe South Africa 🇿🇦 president is having some investments in Congo that is why our soldiers are sent them

[@OlivierKabalisa]

Yes with his brother In law!!!

[@jnaledzani]

South Africa should withdraw its forces and rather use diplomacy. Our army is not equipped for this.

[@JuniorMulisa-jv1cy]

Tue

[@garrewarrior]

Wow, such an unfair questions. SABC playing an unfair game. Taking the side of Congo.

[@GahongayireEmmanuel]

South Africa What do you seek about Rwanda when we give us the weeds? and now you are close to us and you will fight us and see us

[@shungujohnjames5342]

Thabo Mbeki and kagame are friends they both benefiting from DRC because Thabo and kagame are still working for the westerns and Americans so they are not Congolese, the one that knows the are Congolese

[@anitacody7776]

The truth hurts...😊

[@vivijuno6146]

You too stupid ,bcz You didn't expect to hear Thabo Mbeki to say this

[@nzizajovinpaul4955]

DO YOU THINK WAR IS ALWAYS THE BEST WAY TO SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM BETWEEN 2 COUNTRIES ??? ????????

[@ngonidzashechoko491]

South Africa move out of DRC, Rwanda is doing well let Kagame rule the Great Lakes

[@asmho27]

But the DRC has tried diplomacy for decades in vain. The only option now left is military. But they need to send troops with heavy artillery and air support into Rwanda. This way, Rwanda will pull back all its troops and clowns from the DRC for its own safety back home.

[@tauraidube]

In rwanda using which army😂

[@Emanuelkamumkama]

DRC has used South Africans, foreign mercenaries, Monuc, Angolan troops, all to no avail. They are militarily no match for Rwanda. Rwanda can project it's military power all the way to the western border of DRC. They have done it before!! Google 'the boys of Kitona"

[@kagaramaangelus5371]

Why the minister of foreign affairs escaping the question asked by the Journalist if SANDF working along side FDRL?

[@Kundaiteka123]

SANDF and SADEC as whole is ashamed of failing to protect M23 from capturing Goma. It is only supporting M23 by supplying the weapons it will use later

[@jesuschristsauve7401]

This Rwanda guy is avoiding the questions

[@mfundomkhonta7500]

Which one did he avoid cz it's the south African one that is not clear

[@donyero9033]

It's the people of other countries that no one is talking about because of the minerals

[@nkeledeborahmonyeki2776]

The horror of tribal war, terrorism war, political war, economic war and geopolitical war is cruel. Whose sovereignty matters most? Should we ask it that way maybe? Can we expose all the non-state actors behind each party of interest in this war??? We also want to understand what each party is fighting for.

[@Trendings_BKV]

this journaliste is professionnel in his work, keep it up! am Rwandan and am supporting all this Rwanda can do, for us we will be at its side,

[@JS-tt9hi]

It is a fact that M23 has committed war crimes and other atrocities in the Congo. Some of their leaders were convicted by the ICC. It is a shame that Rwanda is associated with such a group.

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

Lamola why are our soldiers in the DRC, why do you not leave them in South Africa where they can defend themselves? You send the SANDF to go into the DRC to defend themselves, so this means you never needed SANDF in the DRC in the 1st place. This is a joke!🙈🙉🙊

[@jesuschristsauve7401]

Kagame wants Congo to negotiate with M23, and accuses Tshisekedi to keep the FDLR. Why can't Kagame also receive the FDLR? WHY SHOULD TSHISEKEDI NEGOTIATE WITH M23 BUT KAGAME SHOULD NOT NEGOTIATE ACCEPT TO NEGOTIATE WITH FDLR.

[@Ai-creation-l3u]

Because they never wanted in case you don't know some of FDRL members who surrenders to Rwanda are received without even being arrested or accused they are like other citizens you can search it

[@OlivierKabalisa]

Because fdrl is genocider,M23 fight for their rights to live peacefully like everyone!!

[@patricknkosi5412]

Kunzima straight! These leaders seek diplomatic solution! Military is not a solution

[@ArniMuras]

All these useless Foreign ministers are not answering questions. There is no point of asking them these questions.

[@alfredphamotse1316]

Your interviewing skills are on point like a needle...you made this guy bite his tongue🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@mfundomkhonta7500]

Bt he didn't, he answered them correctly

[@bfreebabi5398]

This man is fearful... he is so yang that he sees Paul Kagame as his own father... ...what kind of minister....???

[@Dadson-s8z]

STAND DOWN, NO WAR AMONGST AFRICAN ❤ NATIONS. AFRICAN UNITY, ECONOMIC SOVEREIGNTY WAY FORWARD 🎉

[@martinchiruka2129]

SADC wants the minerals and nothing else. Mabuto seseseco was removed through a couple by the father of

[@martinchiruka2129]

They is no people rights in DRC they are all interested in the minerals. Leave Kagami alone.

[@martinchiruka2129]

Rhamaposa solve Zimbabwe problem that was created by you when you tola

[@martinchiruka2129]

Do you think and everyone thinks that that those people in the eastern DRC are stupid. Leave Rhander alone.

[@martinchiruka2129]

You are lying the rebels want to free themselves it's about the minerals.

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

Why would Kagame take it personal when the threat is against M23 whom he claims are not Rwandan people. South Africa is threatening M23 not Rwanda, unless M23 is Rwanda with other Congolese.

[@mfundomkhonta7500]

Cz they threatened Rwanda

[@kagaramaangelus5371]

I want to ask the South African foreign Minister if he agree with Former president Thabo Mbeki on his speech talking about what is going on in the Eastern DRC.

[@mzwandilemzila803]

Lamola is another South African called Brigadier Gininda

[@itanetherevivalistrevivali8419]

They are preparing him to hijack South African presidency. He is the next puppet and by running at Nasrec was to relay him. They knew he couldn't win ramadollar. So soon they will say South Africa needs young president. You can see how Stellenbosch patiently prepare him. So they run with 2 horses in rAmaphosa n him just to discourage RET n distabilise it. Next perfect Stellenbosch Mafia Puppet!

[@ignacenyiringabo9055]

We, Rwandans, know where we come from and we know where we go! If SA needs to fight our country we are ready! We can't accept to have a situation like it happened in 30yrs ago.

[@RhulaniNgwenyama-jw6li]

You clearly don't know what you are asking for.If you think SA is that weak, then think again🤓🤔

[@bkay7781]

Rwanda should stop stealing and selling congo minerals to the west... who's arming and supporting the m23 Rebels ? It seems like u guys didn't learn anything from the genocide.

[@rukundorwiza5223]

We rwanda we not with KAGAME a baby killer

[@tebogontshangase4893]

Can we South Africa and you Rwanda declare war based on a verbal misunderstanding. We had a complex political tension based on race and discrimination. We negotiated a peaceful settlement,why can't these rivals do the chart same wayforward

[@rukundorwiza5223]

@@ignacenyiringabo9055 kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4C2dnmkg7GafNEfeature=shared

[@HarryRamphele]

Lamola is evasive in answering simple direct questions, I do not understand why Politian's are liars

[@mikeradebe9692]

Bring our South African boys home please 🙏