SADC Extraordinary Summit | Mandates & troop numbers - Sophie Mokena

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SADC leaders have called for the immediate dispatch of defense ministers, military chiefs, and troop-contributing nations to ensure the safety of soldiers in the Democratic Republic of Congo. They also demanded the urgent repatriation of fallen and injured troops after recent M23 militia attacks in the eastern DRC.
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@bobbobobobo402
@bobbobobobo402 6 күн бұрын
M7 and Kagame are the same person - they like to remove the government in Congo. M7 son, who leads the Ugandan troops, recently expressed his support for M23 on X. Uganda is paying back penalties to Congo for violations back in 1998. They are still interested. For us in Uganda, we know that they a 50 year mission to conquer most of Africa. You need to hear M7 speeches. They're power hungry. They took Uganda and now are using it as a base to attract the rest of Africa. They took Rwanda next and then Congo but difficulty in Congo arouse as Laurent Kabira was not so loyal. He was assassinated. Kenya and Tanzania are difficult because of Americans and British interests there.. So they are eager for the East African communities, so that they control proceedings there. Now we have South Sudan, Somalia largely influenced by M7. The Rwandese want to control the region.
@ggmb1032
@ggmb1032 6 күн бұрын
Man you nailed it. Not many can explain it like you have just done. This two guys are on a mission for the Tutsi minute tribe from Rwanda to control the whole continent. All Africans need to wake up? because if they take Congo then they easily take other small countries like Burundi, Gabon, Equatorial Guinue, Congo Brazzaville, Central African Republic, Cameron and then now they have enough power to take large economies like Nigeria and also come back east to conquer Kenya and Tanzania. These two guys have killed a lot of Africans for their quest for power.
@KaremeraJustin
@KaremeraJustin 6 күн бұрын
Many countries in African you like to talk to much but Rwandan people we like Action
@ronaldmolefe3060
@ronaldmolefe3060 6 күн бұрын
Why would a big country like Congo seek help from its SADC alliances to keep peace against a small militia like March 23 community patrol.DRC must fight for its minerals alone .and if Rwanda feels like the colonial borders deprives them what is theirs,they must just say that they want their land and minerals.
@mikeilikeit9685
@mikeilikeit9685 Күн бұрын
SADE IS A RIGONAL BODY IF YOU ARE UN ABLE TO CONTROL YES CORUPTION AND FOREIGN INFRUENCE COZ OF MONEY
@Joel-z6k
@Joel-z6k 5 күн бұрын
Sophie best journalist in Southern Africa, so partial and accurate in every event taking place
@ThandiweGulwa
@ThandiweGulwa 6 күн бұрын
Congolese stand together,these in the Diaspora say something in support of your country,those with money finance your country to achieve its mission,stand up.
@pierrebukasa
@pierrebukasa 6 күн бұрын
There was no need for kagame to kill even one man for this issue to get solution. With this 2 process (Nairobi and Luanda) we should get solution. But his intention is far from what you want him to discuss. He need to extent his country.
@BEBLRwanda
@BEBLRwanda 6 күн бұрын
You are the amongst president called idiots because you don't even know what brought tension to this extent, DRC president himself refused to negotiate with M23 and for your reminder M23 are Congolese, DRC refused to disarm FDRL that is the genocidal rebel in DRC, Kisekedi removed EAC in his country yet they had agreements and he invited SADC without consulting his fellow EAC presidents the ones he invited from SADC they fought alongside with DRC and FDRL, so my friend who didn't fullfiiled the Luanda and Nairobi?
@muraDRC
@muraDRC 6 күн бұрын
@@BEBLRwanda RDF BOTS IN COMMENT SECTION, why calling people idiots while they don't support Kagame's Genocide in DRC? Weak men who don't know how to debate but sucking bloods of Congolese people. your IQ is Dramatically low.
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 6 күн бұрын
DRC president has time to engage SADC, hire Romania Mercenaries, but has no time for peace talks with his country men in M23
@ggmb1032
@ggmb1032 6 күн бұрын
Why should he discuss with a rebel group controlled by tutsi tribe from Rwanda. The tutsi are a greedy people. Minute tribe in Rwanda now wants to go control 100 million congolese just like you control 50 million Ugandans. Africa is waking to see what the tutsi intentions are on the continent. The entire continent of 1.373 billion people and 14 million people want to control it. Your dictator Kagame as one of least educated leaders in the world. You going to fight hard on this one. Remember most other tribes in clever than you guys. And Museveni is about to died if not overthrown and killed by his own drunkard son. Kagame is probably paying $10 day to spread the tutsi propagada on the internet. When you live by the sword you die by the sword. That's Bible.
@----Moriah--Habib--------
@----Moriah--Habib-------- 6 күн бұрын
You get the point
@alfredphamotse1316
@alfredphamotse1316 6 күн бұрын
countrymen who want to determine who should mine Congolese minerals without government control, are you talking about those countrymen?
@muraDRC
@muraDRC 6 күн бұрын
when he call for M23 Kagame is one who attend Debates, if M23 Was Congolese issue why you Rwanda's are speaking for them? besides we accepted to peace talk with m23 but Nduhungirehe and Kagame didn't want to come to Ruanda, who doesn't want peace talk now?
@innocentgwariro8294
@innocentgwariro8294 5 күн бұрын
​@@alfredphamotse1316why government control? Remember most of these governments in SADC are not legitimate. They manupuiate election results. They don't represent citizens. They marginalise citizens. M23 are Congolese citizens marginalised by the Kinshasa government. SA soldiers must leave the DRC or else they perish for money which they won't get.
@mohammedabdihakimhassan672
@mohammedabdihakimhassan672 6 күн бұрын
Southern African countries went to fight M23 what happened you got beaten down that why you want to talk.
@alfredphamotse1316
@alfredphamotse1316 6 күн бұрын
EAC requested the talks not SADC, everybody is gangster until they get punched in the face, M23 should always remember that.
@mohammedmusoke6130
@mohammedmusoke6130 6 күн бұрын
YOU CAN'T SEND 3000 TROOPS TO FIGHT BOTH UGANDA AND RWANDA. THOSE ARE THE COUNTRIES BEHIND M23.
@HomeboyTZ19
@HomeboyTZ19 6 күн бұрын
when did they went to fight m23? they have never did that, those m23 tuts can easily be defeated by single country
@patriot_2022
@patriot_2022 6 күн бұрын
@@HomeboyTZ19 Ohh can they? You have no clue what SAMIDRC went there for? They have been fighting the whole time since their deployment more than a year ago. And not fighting everyone, just M23. That was their mandate. But they were overpowered. All together in their coalition -DRC military, the many allied militias, and Burundi army. Now Southern Africa forces are prisoners of M23.
@munyaradzijuliusmunyukwijj
@munyaradzijuliusmunyukwijj 6 күн бұрын
DRC admin is the problem here ,u de-nationalise a tribe thus the worst thing a leader can do ...Therefore M23 are kids protecting their parents fighting for their rights .100% DRC citizens
@BibicheKokona-b1m
@BibicheKokona-b1m 6 күн бұрын
La rdc a 450 ethnie mais va seulement avoir le problème avec 1 seul ?
@vm-qo1jr
@vm-qo1jr 6 күн бұрын
​@@BibicheKokona-b1m Bien sur pourquoi? Parceque La RDC a plus 100 groupes rebeles sur son sol mais 1 seulement semble etre Le probleme !
@fidahvincent2142
@fidahvincent2142 6 күн бұрын
But Rwanda keeps changing goal posts. Denationalization is there, sometime, it's the FDLR. Which is which?
@esnathconstancemoyo3674
@esnathconstancemoyo3674 6 күн бұрын
I don't trust the Rwanda president. Kagame .
@phanuelniringiyimana8647
@phanuelniringiyimana8647 6 күн бұрын
Okay stay trust Tshisekedi
@eastafricanist9156
@eastafricanist9156 6 күн бұрын
Do you trust Tshisekedi?
@Namahoro94
@Namahoro94 6 күн бұрын
We Rwandans love him and trust him, who are you?
@ThandiweGulwa
@ThandiweGulwa 6 күн бұрын
American little boy that is sent to buy water for trump as a little boy he does not ask questions.
@furjac5
@furjac5 6 күн бұрын
whom are you trusting?
@opuvari1982
@opuvari1982 6 күн бұрын
What is the stance of AU? Those smalll divisions may stil divide us as Africans.
@jaygon5472
@jaygon5472 6 күн бұрын
AU stance is assist colonial with delivery of mineral
@nelsonchinasamy9857
@nelsonchinasamy9857 6 күн бұрын
​@@jaygon5472you are so dumb that you can't see what is directly under your nose. All you are seeing is colonialists but right under your nose are the Chinese who are very busy, more busy than the colonialists ever were. What a laugh really.
@CelestinHABIMANA-pu2su
@CelestinHABIMANA-pu2su 6 күн бұрын
The intervention of EAC in DRC was peace making while SADC mission is offensive
@zeersa4089
@zeersa4089 5 күн бұрын
That’s bullshit!
@navytune
@navytune 6 күн бұрын
For those who still care about the virtue of “honesty”: There is a leader, among all the others involved, that does not tolerate mediocrity at all! This leader holds accountable everyone starting with himself. There are many of his closest friends that are in prison or exiled, result of using their power at the cost of his people. His words have matched his actions for the last 35 years+. He forgave the unforgivable and I am convinced, if people dared to challenge their preconceived and dishonest views, they would realize he is a one in a lifetime chance African countries will ever inherit.
@muraDRC
@muraDRC 6 күн бұрын
We will never forget 1 million tutsi who died in 1994, and we will never forget 10 million Congolese Killed By Kagame since 1996 until today.
@BM-su7cw
@BM-su7cw 6 күн бұрын
The news anchor really must educate himself better. The Luanda process (different from the Luanda Agreement) is a 2022 initiative that seeks to diffuse tensions between the state parties DRC and Rwanda. The EAC led Nairobi process is a regional peace initiative that includes ALL stakeholders, including the armed groups in that region. These processes are complimentary. There's no competition between the two as alleged. There cannot be peace without addressing the grievances of M23 (possibly other groups too) or Rwanda's genuine security concerns about FDLR. The Nairobi process hopes to achieve this.
@jeanblaisediyoka8847
@jeanblaisediyoka8847 6 күн бұрын
The FDLR don't exist. Kagame exterminated all hutus that were in refugee camps in DRC during the war that toppled Mobutu... So how many FDLR has Rwanda arrested or capture since they have invaded DRC with their proxy Kagame M23... Kagame has massacred all hutus... I think Kagame has to dialogue with FDLR since they are Rwandese.
@muraDRC
@muraDRC 6 күн бұрын
@@jeanblaisediyoka8847 And it sound funny when RWANDA dare to tell CONGO to negotiate with M23 Terrorists while he doesn't want to talk to His FDRL, also Kagame killed almost 10 millions of Congolese in illusion of finding FDRL since 1996 while the FDRL killed 1million, but still kagame doesn't find it enough. he still want to drink more bloods
@afropicturestv9104
@afropicturestv9104 6 күн бұрын
Life is back in Goma after South African Army surrendered to M23 Revolutionary Army. I am told that Goma is more peaceful than it has been under SANDF, FDLR, and FARDC forces. Maybe M23 should come to South Africa and reduce crime rates in major cities Habibi Welcome to Goma.
@masterp5902
@masterp5902 5 күн бұрын
Uyanya wena
@jaygon5472
@jaygon5472 6 күн бұрын
Rwanda strike mineral deal with EU without any minerals...
@abdallahdataguy
@abdallahdataguy 6 күн бұрын
🤣thieves
@ggmb1032
@ggmb1032 6 күн бұрын
That's the kagame and tutsi greed
@alfredphamotse1316
@alfredphamotse1316 6 күн бұрын
the creepy part of this story, how do you build processing plants of minerals you do not have?
@kigalitraders
@kigalitraders 6 күн бұрын
You have been consumed by propaganda of DRC! Do you think Rwanda do not have minerals for sure? Maybe DRC has much more but it does not means that Rwanda should not exploit the few they have. If DRC can not protect its resources they should not always accuse others, it is DRC leaders failure!
@Marley-2500
@Marley-2500 6 күн бұрын
Do research or visit Rwanda we have many minerals sites
@nizeyimanavincent5317
@nizeyimanavincent5317 6 күн бұрын
we Rwandans love and trust our president Paul Kagame 😮😮😮 m23 are Congolese... so let them deal with their government... as long as no one dares to disturb Rwanda cause we are all going to fight tooth and nail... we have seen genocide we can't let anyone bring war to rwanda again
@nomvuyokalenga4333
@nomvuyokalenga4333 6 күн бұрын
They are desperate our Africans, they are rejected they want their land and freedom, there is nothing like this😢😢
@hemedbamja3197
@hemedbamja3197 6 күн бұрын
Sympathy of resources' thirsty. I bet non empathizes for pure humanitarian reason rather than reward in return
@jobnelsonkisaka1261
@jobnelsonkisaka1261 6 күн бұрын
If SADC troops misbehave in DRC. Burkina Faso troops will help reinforce protection of Banyamulenge! I hope those oppressing the human rights of other Africans are able to comprehend the new military might of current Burkinabe military. President Troure's recent engagements in the region were not a tourist visit! SADC should go in with neutral caution, not chest thumping bravado! The situation is very delicate!
@BibicheKokona-b1m
@BibicheKokona-b1m 6 күн бұрын
Mulenge c’est le nom d’une montagne c’est quoi le tribu en réalité ?
@moise7648
@moise7648 6 күн бұрын
Banyamulenge are leaders of Congolese army who are fighting western puppies Museveni and Kagame
@mzwakhemamba3830
@mzwakhemamba3830 6 күн бұрын
Who among the SADC leaders can come out and explain to us the real grievances and the actual causes of the conflicts.
@patriot_2022
@patriot_2022 6 күн бұрын
Exactly. None of them even knows what the grievances of people are, because they are not trying to know. All full of chest thumping bravado...they think they can just scare everyone away with their issues. They don't know. And they might also have vested interests, like what they did the last time in 2013. Dislodged M23 and then started taking minerals. That place is a mess. People have legitimate issues, no one is trying to solve.
@MethodeBoscos
@MethodeBoscos 6 күн бұрын
Please remove poul kagame because he is the problem of great lakes region
@cyusaernest5931
@cyusaernest5931 6 күн бұрын
It's Rwandans to decide, and we decided to vote for him. So who else could decide for us?
@MethodeBoscos
@MethodeBoscos 6 күн бұрын
@cyusaernest5931 so u decide to vote for this criminal
@ggmb1032
@ggmb1032 6 күн бұрын
Yes you are correct. Once Kagame and Museveni are gone, then East and central Africa will have peace. Before they came to power there were no wars. Museveni started a war that overthrew the Ugandan government and Kagame started a war that overthrew the then Rwandese government.
@alfredphamotse1316
@alfredphamotse1316 6 күн бұрын
@@cyusaernest5931 the creepy part of this story, how do you build processing plants of minerals you do not have? ask Kagame
@KaremeraJustin
@KaremeraJustin 6 күн бұрын
People of Rwanda we love our president and we believe him. So you west of time
@MethodeBoscos
@MethodeBoscos 6 күн бұрын
Kagame must face ICC
@Nahopeincircle
@Nahopeincircle 6 күн бұрын
Tell ur father
@cyusaernest5931
@cyusaernest5931 6 күн бұрын
In your dreams
@sanguah95
@sanguah95 6 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣bro wants the world war 3 to be started by rwandans
@alfredphamotse1316
@alfredphamotse1316 6 күн бұрын
@@sanguah95 stronger leaders have warrants against them, what can he do?🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@TenToesDownInc.
@TenToesDownInc. 6 күн бұрын
Tshisekedi first
@dioboJc
@dioboJc 6 күн бұрын
@Senzanga
@Senzanga 6 күн бұрын
Sophie Mokoena is on Kagame 's payroll
@Senzanga
@Senzanga 6 күн бұрын
@redvalley8857 Exactly
@Marley-2500
@Marley-2500 6 күн бұрын
​@@redvalley8857 Sandf were killed by frdc soldiers as confirmed by Ramaphosa. Secondly they took a side and fight that was a war not amapiano dance battle you should expect death and casualties if your hearts are not ready for it withdraw them let them enjoy amapiano in their country
@Senzanga
@Senzanga 6 күн бұрын
@redvalley8857 Moreover, she didn't ask the right questions. The first one and very simple should have been about the proof of their Congolese citizenship (Birth certificate or the certificate of naturalization or the certificate received by their parents from Belgium administration like every Congolese received before 06/30/1960 the independence day. Congolese needed permit to travel to other provinces). Finally, she is talking about Museveni as a Wiseman, we all did some research and this man is even worse than Kagame; he is the mastermind of all of this and it started in 1989; he is the blesser of RPF that took power in Rwanda). Did she read the report of experts from UN (our service men participated in collecting evidences...). Very bad for SABC. I would have fired her long time ago.
@Senzanga
@Senzanga 6 күн бұрын
@redvalley8857 I agree. We will file a complaint
@Senzanga
@Senzanga 6 күн бұрын
@redvalley8857 Mbeki is still influencing many things, unfortunately.
@sureshparus9638
@sureshparus9638 6 күн бұрын
Send our minister to da battle ground to see da troops n situation 1st hand ...
@Hej411
@Hej411 6 күн бұрын
All barks with no bite! Kagame has all these clowns in one fist!
@othyvitswamba1111
@othyvitswamba1111 6 күн бұрын
I am sure Hitler thought the same thing. Kagame is the criminal.
@alfredphamotse1316
@alfredphamotse1316 6 күн бұрын
"everybody is gangster until they get punched in the face" - Mike Tyson
@patriot_2022
@patriot_2022 6 күн бұрын
@@alfredphamotse1316 South Africa just learnt that. Along with SADC with their bravado. Kagame is quiet. You want to talk, he talks. You want to fight, he fights. It's simple with him. They are flexible. But not so simple with Tshisekedi. Mara oh 'terrorists...will crush everyone...'
@Mature-k4y
@Mature-k4y 6 күн бұрын
She is not giving you the real difference between Nairobi agreement and luanda agreement and it content can help you understand what was inside
@patriot_2022
@patriot_2022 6 күн бұрын
Luanda Process concerned the issues between DRC and Rwanda. It was about preventing an escalation between the two. The Nairobi Process concerned all the over 120 rebel groups (including M23) vs the government and each other. It was about identifying everyone's grievances, how they could leave together in peaceful coexistence, and what is required of the government to maintain order. The groups were laying down their arms, including M23 withdrawing from territories they took and EACRF was overseeing it and their cantonment. If you had followed, there was possibility for a problem with M23 because they are a little stubborn and they prefer trouble. But they should have waited for that to happen. Initially, they declined to participate in the peace talks in Nairobi with only the other groups participating. They see themselves as special/superior in a certain way. Then they agreed to participate later. But the DRC government, in disregard of the sensitive ongoing process where trust was slowly being created, they designated them as 'terrorists' and demanded they be removed from the Nairobi Process. They weren't, so DRC stopped participating, and that is how M23 representatives end up being in Nairobi, and DRC claims Kenya is impartial. DRC government messed it up. If they were strong men who wanted true peace or victory, they should have dared everyone to go all the way so that there is no excuse. The thinking of the EAC was that eventually, they will have to join combat against M23. But they weren't going to do that before the grievances have been solved. DRC didn't want to solve anything, they only brush issues aside and try to blast everyone out.
@Dr.DennisMulumbaprophet
@Dr.DennisMulumbaprophet 6 күн бұрын
Tshisekedi is never a problem but Kagame because fight and looting of Congolese minerals by Kagame started many years before Tshisekedi became a president who is nationalist and want to defend his Country. You need to know the history and who is culprit here. Congo will win this war, we shall resist tyrany and lies machine of Rwandan Kagame who pays journalists around the world with blood money for cover up reporting.
@KashaAllan
@KashaAllan 6 күн бұрын
We need nyamuleng people to be treated and gestured as Congolese indigenous citizens coz thy belong to congo not Rwanda ..stop bragging
@BibicheKokona-b1m
@BibicheKokona-b1m 6 күн бұрын
Vous êtes pas des Autochtone, pourquoi vous aimez pas votre pays le Rwanda ?
@abeidkhamis6130
@abeidkhamis6130 6 күн бұрын
Nonsense
@eddymbayi1159
@eddymbayi1159 6 күн бұрын
We been living together with people from Rwanda it was no issues , but since Mr Paul Kagame be came president then troubles started.
@alfredphamotse1316
@alfredphamotse1316 6 күн бұрын
the creepy part of this story, how do you build processing plants of minerals you do not have? ask Rwanda and its M23 goons...
@SumayaIsmail-sr1od
@SumayaIsmail-sr1od 6 күн бұрын
​@@alfredphamotse1316 There are many countries who have processing plants of raw materials that they don't produce. Nothing new. You're all just jealous of the success of Rwanda. At least he's developing his country more than any other African leader had done for their people
@Dr.DennisMulumbaprophet
@Dr.DennisMulumbaprophet 6 күн бұрын
No Museveni was part of those who teamed up with Kagame to attack DR Congo in 1996-1997 so he doesn't have a natural experience to share with new presidents here. He is also part of the problem beside Kagame, Sophie is bias and cannot report or analyze objectively on DR Congo and Rwanda conflict. A senior who is bias should not mislead SABC listeners and followers. She always twists away from the real issues in this conflict reports and knowing that Kagame has bought many journalists to support his looting agenda it is easy to understand. EAC did get itself in exploitation of minerals with M23 that why their mandates were canceled.
@MethodeBoscos
@MethodeBoscos 6 күн бұрын
Sophie thank u very much
@janvierlion751
@janvierlion751 6 күн бұрын
The DRC president would be the first to face ICC because he killed many Tutsis at Nturi & burned 300 homes, he is also killing the Banyamulenges
@user-ez9en7vk2z
@user-ez9en7vk2z 6 күн бұрын
SANDF can only beat & out manoeuvre a KFC Street Wise 2.
@sureshparus9638
@sureshparus9638 6 күн бұрын
@@user-ez9en7vk2z eish,indeed
@VitalKabambamabondo-w2h
@VitalKabambamabondo-w2h 6 күн бұрын
Sophia I'm sorry if you I political analyses just say kahame did refuse to show up.be straight to The point between kahame and tshisekedi who's wrong
@muraDRC
@muraDRC 5 күн бұрын
If you can't tell who's wrong at this point you need Jesus in your life
@Joel-z6k
@Joel-z6k 5 күн бұрын
If SADC mission is offensive, why crying they are at war front
@enmn6001
@enmn6001 6 күн бұрын
Let all The Sadc region leave the DRC. The Congolese wants to build their country. And leave the DRC minerals for the Congolese
@Kendrickray2024
@Kendrickray2024 6 күн бұрын
Kisekdi and his gvment are problem. Give peace Rwanda and his people
@muraDRC
@muraDRC 5 күн бұрын
Last time i checked Rwandan RDF troops are in DRC hundreds of miles away from Rwanda border, you should have said Rwanda govmnt to give congo peace
@VitalKabambamabondo-w2h
@VitalKabambamabondo-w2h 6 күн бұрын
Tshisekedi never been in the bush we don't need all all of them let DRC solve is problem you are just talking
@VitalKabambamabondo-w2h
@VitalKabambamabondo-w2h 6 күн бұрын
Now we're talking about DRC tomorrow it will be laws shedding in south Africa
@beyondcalisthenics
@beyondcalisthenics 6 күн бұрын
Can we all google the meaning of the word: Extraordinary!
@Eastcoast-oo7pj
@Eastcoast-oo7pj 6 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@julesn2822
@julesn2822 6 күн бұрын
True @beyondcalisthenics🙌 looks like it gets thrown around a lot as if they're going to perform some miracles 🤔
@patriot_2022
@patriot_2022 6 күн бұрын
😅 the most misused word
@witnesstoringepi8387
@witnesstoringepi8387 6 күн бұрын
DRC was party of eastern African is where is a big problem
@nsengiyumvajeanbaptiste4468
@nsengiyumvajeanbaptiste4468 6 күн бұрын
You are forgetting the root cause FDRL genocidaire killing More than one million of Tutsi
@moise7648
@moise7648 6 күн бұрын
Kagame have killed 12 million Congolese and 3 million Hutus
@alfredphamotse1316
@alfredphamotse1316 6 күн бұрын
in Rwanda, the FDLR and M23 should go home and sort out their issues there, not on Congolese soil...
@enmn6001
@enmn6001 6 күн бұрын
Lies lies lies ​@@moise7648
@patriot_2022
@patriot_2022 6 күн бұрын
@@alfredphamotse1316 FDLR are Rwandans, they must be forced back home. But Congolese government refuses and wants them to be armed and keep fighting on each other's side. M23 are Congolese not Rwandans, there is nowhere they will go. They are at home. Eastern Congo has both Hutus and Tutsis that belong there and are not Rwandan.
@emmanuelsithole8767
@emmanuelsithole8767 6 күн бұрын
Tshisekedi is the problem. Why is he double-dipping? Why did he boot out EAC and replaced them with SADC?
@Senzanga
@Senzanga 6 күн бұрын
@@emmanuelsithole8767 DRC must exit EAC. DRC is not like Tanzania. The only space of cooperation and economic development for the Great lakes region was The Economic Community of the Great Lakes Countries (CEPGL) which used to include, Zaire (DRC), Burundi and Rwanda. It was created in 1976 and created a space of peace and prosperity until Museveni got in power in. Uganda and planned the military return of Tutsis to control Rwanda, Burundi and Zaire (of course with the blessing of UK). I hope you learned something new. If Museveni never got in power,, like Pope John XXIII warned, none of what we have seen, we are seeing and is coming next would have happened. Bigger trouble is ahead of us as a continent but it will be the price to pay for the end of the Museveni Kagame era
@deliojones9527
@deliojones9527 6 күн бұрын
Because he is lazy, cant you see? He wants other countries to fight his war. Imagine a country of 100 million ppl. He needs to be fired
@Senzanga
@Senzanga 6 күн бұрын
@deliojones9527 Rwandan operative . It would be easier for you if a country (DRC) that has been under military embargo for over 3 decades with on top a braced (RDF and Tutsis from Uganda) military force (per Mbeki/Kagame & Museveni recommendations) would be left alone to fight a UK & US trained military forces of Rwanda and Uganda... Evil people. SADC won't let you control Bantus. Put that somewhere deep where I think.
@patriot_2022
@patriot_2022 6 күн бұрын
It's because he was never interested in addressing issues of the people who are fighting. He prefers to wipe them off. EAC said let's talk about it. What is wrong with these people, why do they do what they do? Then EAC found that there are legitimate issues that require solutions and launched the Nairobi Process. (Luanda was about Rwanda-DRC). The EACRF was there to oversee the negotiated withdrawal and cantonment of rebel groups, in tandem with the talks. But Tshisekedi was not impressed because he wanted bombs, guns and blasting. M23 were leaving territory to EAC forces, then Tshisekedi decided to conclude they must have an agreement. And he refused to talk to them, (during the peace process), and insisted he wanted to see the movie Rambo. So he pushes a well functioning peace-making force, so that it won't be settled peacefully. He wanted to settle it by blasting out the people he didn't like. The man is messing up DRC. SADC were not the wisest group here. They assumed once their name is mentioned everyone there folds away, so they promised Tshisekedi his backup forces. It wouldn't have reached here, had SADC interrogated the issue and asked why the EAC forces were getting out and what they were doing there. Now because they lost people, there is interest to coordinate. I hope Tshisekedi will agree to dialogue now and return the peace process as earlier modelled by Nairobi. Only then would they be able to disarm M23 and all the over 100 militias and integrate all to civilian life (not DRC military ranks). But this guy doesn't want to be helped.
@patriot_2022
@patriot_2022 6 күн бұрын
@@Senzanga Exit here, join there, exit there and join another...bring this, remove them, bring the other one... DRC's wisdom for addressing its conflicts. That will never solve anything for y'all. Being in EAC is DRC's choice. No one forced them in, and no on forces anyone to stay. They want to leave, the door is open. Then all its problems will disappear, right? Tshisekedi has more problems with EAC than you, because they refused to join blasting of people in Eastern DRC, and insisted he talks with all groups raising grievances. But even he himself at least did his economic math and saw the benefit of being in EAC. Some irrational elements want DRC to be jumping everywhere like an unstable teenager, and they are almost doing that.
@----Moriah--Habib--------
@----Moriah--Habib-------- 6 күн бұрын
Peace talks might come up with real solutions if countries that should chair peace talks are atleast neutral. Somebody can't expect much from SA, Tanzania, Malawi,..etc bcz are wrongly involved in these congo- M23 conflicts. There is a need for trusted & neutral african countries to lead peace talks.
@alfredphamotse1316
@alfredphamotse1316 6 күн бұрын
the creepy part of this story, how do you build processing plants of minerals you do not have? ask Rwanda
@patriot_2022
@patriot_2022 6 күн бұрын
​@@alfredphamotse1316 That must be the very last question to ask, after all the questions of the people in Congo have bee answered. You must know that even your own South Africa has processing plants for minerals from Congo. (Even if you have your own, you are also getting Congolese minerals). The issue of minerals is *a result* of the conflict not a cause. Eastern DRC has no government. The state never reached there for many decades, even before 1994. So everyone, including government officials, they run mines and export minerals. Now all the tribes leaving there, they all dig where they are and sell the minerals. To that extent, it is *their* minerals...they are not stealing because they belong to them. One of those tribes is Tutsis. And then the others, pushed by the government, don't want to see them do what everyone does because they say they should not be in Congo. So they fight and oppress them. Of course they take theirs to Rwanda, nothing wrong with that. Mutual benefit. But that is not the cause of the conflict. The cause is denial of rights to a section of Congolese citizens. There also are other groups that mine and take to Rwanda. What do you do if there is a conflict, no government, and you hold on to territory with serious minerals? Of course you dig and sell it.
@furjac5
@furjac5 6 күн бұрын
Then how can propose those peace processes between two sides and, at the same time, a troop for offensive purposes?
@ChickenDust
@ChickenDust 6 күн бұрын
Because Rwanda needs to know its place.
@RoyThompson-w5t
@RoyThompson-w5t 6 күн бұрын
Ok
@moussakabamba5898
@moussakabamba5898 6 күн бұрын
You might as stop talking Kongo politics and focus on kwaito music! No wonder
@Vasbyt6540
@Vasbyt6540 6 күн бұрын
Ramaphosa should play the race card...oh wait sorry..
@YujiroHanmaaaa
@YujiroHanmaaaa 6 күн бұрын
😂
@patriot_2022
@patriot_2022 6 күн бұрын
Malema is already doing it
@user-ez9en7vk2z
@user-ez9en7vk2z 6 күн бұрын
She has no idea .. She can't even speak English.
@gillbersth6853
@gillbersth6853 6 күн бұрын
Yea she is not an English don't wonder.
@user-ez9en7vk2z
@user-ez9en7vk2z 6 күн бұрын
@gillbersth6853 neither am I but I went to great lengths to have some grasp on it as I'm also in communication & media ...she's like a doctor that can't hold a needle, not qualified for her career choice, an AA charite case.
@dioboJc
@dioboJc 6 күн бұрын
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