Face The Nation | Government of National Unity

President Cyril Ramaphosa will be inaugurated on Wednesday as he kicks off his second term. Ramaphosa must then announce his cabinet for the 7th administration following consultations with other political parties in the Government of National Unity. How will this relationship between the two big parties in the GNU work?
ANC Secretary-General Fikile Mbalula speaks on ANC's position on the GNU and DA federal Chairperson Helen Zille speaks on the DA's approach towards the GNU.
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[@isintu1044]

You should have interviewed both of them same time 😂😂😂😂😂

[@olwethumkhwanazi9747]

Indeed😂😂😂😂It would be interesting to hear each one'sn responses in the presence of the other😂😂😂

[@12sethmo]

Helen was going to bliksem Fikile😂😂

[@setjoapelomohasoa8417]

Definitely 😅

[@noxolodlamini4349]

It was going to be embarrassing for Fikile 😢

[@ashwinmark1849]

It was done separately on purpose

[@rintintin_]

It’s like reading the Virgin Active contract after you signed it 😂😂😂

[@ongezilemdodana4658]

😂😂😂

[@carolanngelderbloem3209]

😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@alexanderjermaineabrahams1615]

exactly big words big words big words translation the citizens they swear to work for will pay...

[@kenjichikani3237]

😂😂😂😂

[@entabeni1337]

EFF only got 9% which means there are only a tiny few people in SA that wants to become farmers, because they want steal land from farmers, right?

[@thabisomoloi8694]

We need to give it up to Clement. what a great journalist he is, he's not beating around the bush. I'm really inspired by him👏

[@mumu185.]

Clement is the best, his qns are always on point

[@mduduzithabede1999]

He’s a young man with incredible potential but he’s not yet there, with respect…

[@PhetoleMoshabela-fi7sb]

Mbalula is just arguing for arguing, he understands that you are right😂

[@hitekanishivambu3509]

Interviewer is himself confused, 60% relates to parties within the GNU

[@thinamanomadzhie573]

​@@hitekanishivambu3509no you don't understand....what the interviewer is stating is that either way the Anc can never make any decision without the DA

[@jthehorn441]

@@hitekanishivambu3509 60% of the seats in National Assembly, meaning 60% of 400

[@povitti]

If u think he's right. U have a problem listening. It's 60% of GNU. I'm jus disappointed Mbalula couldn't pick up that the interviewer is confusing things with National Assembly. National Assembly has its own rule of 50% +1. U can't come up with another rule about 60%, so why would an interviewer push such a miseducated narrative.

[@povitti]

​@@jthehorn441parliament has a rule about majority. U can't create a rule outside of parliament rule. 🙆🏾 U guys are deciding the country's future but you're ill informed. 😮

[@DaveIsALegendPeriod]

The MKP needs to think about its existence beyond JZ, the EFF needs hit the ground running towards 2029. There’s no time to pity oneself. The ANC is dead, it’s time for political strategists to come into play, otherwise 2029 might be a complete disaster for the Blackman. Focus!

[@SbongokuhleNgobese]

I agree with you and I was happy to see President Zuma giving Nhlamulo and Arthur an opportunity through press briefing.

[@tj7_sa]

Totally agree‼️

[@hanyanem3657]

Couldnt agree more.. MKP is dead without president Zuma. EFF has got work to do and if they play their cards right, they will grow exponentially...

[@okaBhesheni]

There's leaders in MK, the only thing now is to give them a platform. Let wait and see towards December.

[@justicenekongo7298]

EFF must move away from their support of LGBTQ madness

[@siyamdluli]

Wonderful job Mr Manyathela👏🏾👏🏾

[@Malstar93]

Clement making sure mbalula is not escaping the ANC needing the DA😂😂😂

[@hoseaawene917]

Checkmate 😂😂

[@carolanngelderbloem3209]

Yes yes

[@faithing88]

From what I gathered both of them are righht, Fikile is right and Helen is right. Fikile says you will need 60% and the interviewer only understood it from the GNU position yet if the GNU has a deadlock Helen says in needs to go to cabinet sits to vote. GNUA DOESN'T take away from cabinet vote, Hence Mbalula said it's not the case that they will always need DA because at cabinet EFF, MK, UDM, FF etc may vote along them. So Helen is just causing unnecessary chaos. Fikile meant to say if the GNU agree it makes it easy to pass in the cabinet through vote. If the GNU doesn't agree then they go to cabinet vote and it may go either ways, knowing EFF AND MK they will never vote along DA Helen needs to stop being too emotional trying to confuse the uneducated.

[@faithmukusa8253]

😂😂

[@faithmukusa8253]

​@@faithing88fikile doesn't seem to understand the document he signed,that's all😂

[@ntandosibiya2254]

They signed the statement rushing, even Helen admitted on 702 that Floyd Shivambu helped them by calling a break during National Assembly which got them to sign the statement

[@carolanngelderbloem3209]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😮😮😮

[@OwenMusiker-sj1qu]

Eish😢

[@KhanyaGabela]

Mbalula is confused. He doesn't understand what he signed with DA

[@faithing88]

From what I gathered both of them are righht, Fikile is right and Helen is right. Fikile says you will need 60% and the interviewer only understood it from the GNU position yet if the GNU has a deadlock Helen says in needs to go to cabinet sits to vote. GNUA DOESN'T take away from cabinet vote, Hence Mbalula said it's not the case that they will always need DA because at cabinet EFF, MK, UDM, FF etc may vote along them. So Helen is just causing unnecessary chaos. Fikile meant to say if the GNU agree it makes it easy to pass in the cabinet through vote. If the GNU doesn't agree then they go to cabinet vote and it may go either ways, knowing EFF AND MK they will never vote along DA Helen needs to stop being too emotional trying to confuse the uneducated.

[@bhudasbuda]

He was forced to sign that thing, he didn’t read it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CoscorizerSA]

NPA was coming after him if he didn't sign

[@FlorenceMotau-ke8gx]

The settlers have done it again 😢😢😢😢

[@faithing88]

From what I gathered both of them are righht, Fikile is right and Helen is right. Fikile says you will need 60% and the interviewer only understood it from the GNU position yet if the GNU has a deadlock Helen says in needs to go to cabinet sits to vote. GNUA DOESN'T take away from cabinet vote, Hence Mbalula said it's not the case that they will always need DA because at cabinet EFF, MK, UDM, FF etc may vote along them. So Helen is just causing unnecessary chaos. Fikile meant to say if the GNU agree it makes it easy to pass in the cabinet through vote. If the GNU doesn't agree then they go to cabinet vote and it may go either ways, knowing EFF AND MK they will never vote along DA Helen needs to stop being too emotional trying to confuse the uneducated.

[@unitedcolorsofafrica2027]

His president, Ramaphosa understood it toooooo well🤣

[@outclasstours1342]

​@@faithing88Actually, that's not what Zille said. Zille clearly said 60 percent refers only to the GNU, and not the cabinet at large l.

[@LuphiwoTanda-j7q]

@Clement Manyathela, you are brilliant at what you do. You remind me of the great Eusibius Mckaizer.

[@Nomngcefe]

Mbalula signed but doesn't understand the terms of GNU. And the way he answered the Orania question, it's scary, otherwise Cape Town will also demand independence

[@ThaboRampedi]

Is because you are not attentive to details this is why you think his answers are premature

[@t.kmartin1026]

Orania is private land that was bought in 1990 for over a million. If someone can buy the whole of CPT, yes, they have a right to say what's allowed on their land.

[@donkmag]

They already have support of USA for thus determination. Sadly it's going to be a reality

[@ashleyadams5207]

Mbalula is a spineless flip floper.

[@ibrahimocassamo4725]

@@t.kmartin1026that’s a lie, you decide what happens within the land you bought and not on the country.

[@pumzamgolombane4182]

Clement a job well done to you 🙌🏾👏🏽 and thank you for unpacking this GNU for us and we now know who runs the show here, definitely not ANC.

[@petrabarrett2433]

It looks like Helen Ziller is already telling the ANC what to do ...

[@BlackGold_ZAR]

And that means she us the real president.

[@Ta-Pat]

No wonder DA declared EFF enemy No1 cause they knew they can't bully EFF but ANC. I'm proud of you EFF.🎉

[@PreciousLefutswe]

DA knows very well that the EFF is not easily shaken.

[@giftlamoal-rt2vv]

That's y they didn't want eff to be part of their nonsense.

[@mysticman9331]

ANC is in trouble I am telling you. They will regret their decision of forming a coalition with the DA.

[@PreciousLefutswe]

@@mysticman9331 Watch the space. DA is going to show the ANC flames.

[@karma-ul7zx]

Poor uneducated black South Africans declared EFF enemy number one.

[@peterapril2147]

Ramaphosa knew what he got the ANC into

[@tshepotjale7486]

As always 😒

[@francinamotsa3661]

My thought exactly remember the Devil is a lawyer so he understand very well such documents

[@EFF2UnionBuilding]

Ramaphosa was groomed by them whites. They waited for this day for him to hand them power.

[@xolanimyeni8582]

And the mission started back in 2017.

[@ma_tee_n]

And the ANC is so naive to see that.

[@isintu1044]

😂😂😂😂😂 mbalula signed without understanding 😂😂😂😂

[@ongezilemdodana4658]

True 😅😅😅

[@carolanngelderbloem3209]

Eish 😮😮😂😂😂😂😂

[@mpumelelomthethwa8637]

I think he understood well but there are things he wouldn't admit in public.... Its not like they really had a say afterall there are people calling the shots behind the scenes

[@MaleyccahJhyhde]

Whatever the case may be, the agreement between the parties of the GNU remains their agreement BUT CANNOT OVERRIDE THE CONSTITUTIONAL POWERS AND PROVISIONS, NEITHER CAN IT CONTAIN THE SUPREMACY OF THE CONSTITUTION. The seats in the parliament are constitutional seats supported and empowered by the supremacy of the Constitution and any agreement whatsoever that’s not complying with the constitutional provisions is unconstitutional as it would violate or threaten the rights of any other member of the Parliament and the supremacy of the Constitution requires any such agreement, MUST comply with and exist within the parameters of the constitutional provisions. EVERY MEMBER OF THE PARLIAMENT WHO’S DUTY MAY BE IMPACTED BY THE GNU, HAS THE RIGHT TO CHALLENGE THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE GNU IN THE FACE OF EQUALITY, WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE, DISCRIMINATION AMONGST OTHERS, AND SUCH LOCUS STANDI IS UNDER SECTION 38 OF THE CONSTITUTION Furthermore, the issues within the GNU is not a national issue and should not be made as one. It’s an agreement between the parties concern and should have no impact whatsoever on or in the constitutional powers of the members of the Parliament. And any law supporting such GNU CANNOT also override the supremacy of the Constitution.

[@Buogssvnkb]

I must say the DA played their cards well on this negotiations. 😂😂

[@TeeTwoShowDemOfficial]

No they played cards if desperation.. it's just a two minutes strategy with no weight and won't last

[@ZuzumziNgubo]

And anc they goin to regret this GNU

[@ashleyadams5207]

They didn't play their cards well, this was a Codesa predecided agreement.

[@stevenwilliams3015]

Laughing emoji?? You guys learnt nothing from your history. You will learn the hard way

[@Buogssvnkb]

@@stevenwilliams3015 I didn’t vote for neither of them the party I voted for in not is this fake GNU.

[@SimphiweSibeko-ny5tn]

Gayton McKenzie said "Zuma told me the greatest gift that MK can be given is a coaliton betwen ANC and the DA" people laughed, now I see what he meant, the real chess master 😂

[@rosina1998]

Where did he say that? I want to check the video😂..wow Zuma is really a master in politics

[@okaBhesheni]

It was a verbal talks according Gayton.

[@porcialehonono4447]

Leaders r born, it doesnt take education...Zuma is proof of that

[@nomarussia5085]

Remember the kiss of death between Zille and Ramphele…it’s how this mjolo between ANC and DA will end

[@francinamotsa3661]

😂😂😂😂mjolo will hurd you 😂😂😂😂

[@kenjichikani3237]

😂😂😂😂 this interview is an example of "If you don't get it, forget about it". 😂

[@unitedcolorsofafrica2027]

😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️

[@NonhlanhlaMntungwa-bi1lv]

😂😂😂

[@thembamekwa2311]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@KhurishiNgwato]

😅😅😅😅😅

[@EnvanceAbwinoBamusieli]

😂😂

[@bdpienaar]

It is so important how this broadcast shed light on the separation of state and party. Well done #facethenation!

[@siyandamagubane8711]

Clement mopped Mbalula here😅

[@bhekienxumalo]

Mbalu was surprised by this line of question and he realizes the deal they signed without reading it . Ziyakhala manje . I respect EFF for distancing themselves in this nonsense so said GNU

[@faithing88]

No he didn't actually he was a moron to me clearly he has no understanding of GNU. From what I gathered both of them are right, Fikile is right and Helen is right. Fikile says you will need 60% and the interviewer only understood it from the GNU position. No bill or policy can be passed without it going to cabinet for a vote If the GNU has a deadloc. GNU DOESN'T take away from cabinet vote and if thats the case then MK AND EFF and all of will be warming sits. Hence Mbalula said it's not the case that they will always need DA because at cabinet EFF, MK, UDM, FF etc may vote along them NOT NEEDING DA at all!!! So Helen is just causing unnecessary chaos. Fikile meant to say if the GNU agree it makes it easy to pass in the cabinet vote. If the GNU doesn't agree then they go to cabinet vote and it may go either ways, knowing EFF AND MK they will never vote along DA, actually this makes is fair and inclusive instead of this GNU being in total agreement and this allow those in opposition to make the decision 😊 Helen needs to stop being too emotional trying to confuse the uneducated. Follow American politics, this is where we are

[@alexsiboho1268]

🤣🤣🤣mbalula choose the DA knowing that EFF wont participate now he is stack with DA im sure he is regretting

[@mthemburosemary498]

​@@alexsiboho1268only 5yrs we have to combine next election it is scaring

[@ApS.1-s3f]

This seems like a conundrum the ANC did not foresee. Fikile Mbalula seems rather confused re the terms of the GNU written agreement. If white South Africans were not racist and were rather more progressive, this would have been a great initiative. Seeing the inequality gap in SA, I am constantly reminded by what the great prophet Muhammad said- "A man is not a believer who fills his stomach while his neighbour is hungry". We are far from fixing the issues we have in SA due to greed and racism.

[@Tsundzu_M]

Clearly, the DA drafted this agreement and the illiterate comrades just said *yes baas*

[@siphesihlembi8632]

Mbalula is not ready to debate this with Prof JJ😂😂😂🤞🏽

[@NomusaBangani]

No he is not😂😂

[@MphoRampou]

😂😂😂nooo please don't go there😂he'll swear at Prof JJ

[@emmatsebe1468]

Clement Manyathela thank you for the great journalism

[@MathapeloRelebohileMakhetha]

Mbalula seems to have not understood the agreement. Madam played them, all they told them is that no one party has veto power and these idiots didn't notice that raising the threshold to 60% is DAs veto power. This is checkmate. The ANC has been hit by one of madame deadly kiss 😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅 bunch of idiots serving their stomach

[@thulasnkosi9641]

She planned this in 2019 drafted the agreement while Mbalula and them were busy sleeping in Parliament

[@12sethmo]

Black people only wants but they don't want to do the graft..... Truth

[@msncube5354]

Kiss of death😂

[@sahiphopNETWORK]

maybe its you who don't understand what is meant by 60% of the gnu ...maybe its that 60% of the parties in the gnu not parliament meaning as it stands 6 parties you need 4 parties to agree to reach 60% not that 60% of parliament because all the parties put together do not make up 100% only in gnu do the six parties make up 100%

[@hitekanishivambu3509]

@@sahiphopNETWORKthe interviewer is confused. 60% relate to the parties within the GNU and not parliament

[@omphilwemoja3813]

Clement thank you for asking critical questions, we as South Africans now know that this is not a Government of National Unity but a Grand Coalition favoring the DA

[@mduduzishezi9195]

60% threshold clever move by DA,

[@faithing88]

From what I gathered both of them are righht, Fikile is right and Helen is right. Fikile says you will need 60% and the interviewer only understood it from the GNU position yet if the GNU has a deadlock Helen says in needs to go to cabinet sits to vote. GNUA DOESN'T take away from cabinet vote, Hence Mbalula said it's not the case that they will always need DA because at cabinet EFF, MK, UDM, FF etc may vote along them. So Helen is just causing unnecessary chaos. Fikile meant to say if the GNU agree it makes it easy to pass in the cabinet through vote. If the GNU doesn't agree then they go to cabinet vote and it may go either ways, knowing EFF AND MK they will never vote along DA Helen needs to stop being too emotional trying to confuse the uneducated.

[@Masonwabe_Kwata]

​@@faithing88Spamming.

[@MotlokwaThwii]

EFF, UDM MK are not part of the cabinet. You seem confused. National Assembly is Parliament. Not cabinet. Cabinet refers to the Executive. Mbalula is clueless regarding what he signed. Who do you think prepared the document?

[@BatandwaMatyolo]

@Faithing88, ANC will always get support from EFF, UDM, Algermhar, and other parties on the Genocide Gazzar issue, Land questions and Fikile was actually smart enough not to disclose their plans with Clement.

[@MotlokwaThwii]

@@BatandwaMatyolo But those parties are not part of the cabinet💁🏿

[@lekgemelekgau7555]

Fikile Mbalula was like "oh sh#$t now i get you"

[@PreciousLefutswe]

DA is going to show the ANC flames 😂😂😂😂 Watch the space

[@bherilomabandla2023]

💯It will not only show the anc flames but also the most marginalised people in SA🤞🏾.

[@glomab2758]

​@@bherilomabandla2023Very sad state of affairs 😢

[@dawiddewee3761]

Mbalula must understand that the government is not the ANC anymore but its the GNU 😂

[@unitedcolorsofafrica2027]

The new Gun🤣🤣

[@Neo_Mabuse]

Mbalula is a clown😂😂

[@janmolomo7975]

😂😂He fails to understand precisely that, he thinks the ANC will control all decision-making without consulting other parties 😂

[@thembisamakhoba1606]

Mmm sad truth 😢

[@thokozanixulu6112]

True

[@ashleyadams5207]

Mbalula jumping through hoola hoops just to avoid answering a simple queastion, and admitting that the ANC sold out...Thanks Hellen for clearing all that up for us. Clement keep up the excellent work, surely there is still hope for South african journalism.

[@Jagged-mm7sb]

Why would he say that. We all know Zuma is the seller he tried selling us to the Guptas and Russia.

[@ashleyadams5207]

@@Jagged-mm7sb No he did not, He tried to free us from imperialism and colonialism and apartheid, and the ANC has put us right back there. Don't follow blindly everything white media spoonfeeds you.

[@peterapril2147]

I'm shocked with Mbalula answers

[@francinamotsa3661]

Malema told you all that Mbalula doesn't read and you all thought he was being big headed 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@AllenMashoai]

Interviewer: does the temperature increases or decreases Mbaluks : Creases

[@Averse_god_is]

Mbalula understands the point you are trying to make he is just being “economical with the truth “😅😂😮

[@Zenda_Nior]

So economical that he ended up confusing himself.

[@akhonakrakri1338]

Mbalula is blowing hot air here, he doesnt even know what he signed, I think hes only realising that now. Hes in a hot soup here! Typical ANC cadre stuff?!!! What a joke!!! 😂😂😂😂

[@charityxoli5902]

Already i can see that DA knows exactly what is GNU as for ANC they are clueless. I just hope they know what they got themselves into.

[@thedataanalyst8061]

The part Clement said I'm gonna bring Helen Zille 🤣🤣🤣mbalula died for minute

[@ericthozamagqeba3157]

This gnu is starting to overheat before it got started

[@nomarussia5085]

This romance is doomed😮

[@black-tax-101]

Let's watch a drama series guy, 🍿

[@YETI_312]

lol theres no overheating here... you just perceive it that way.

[@faithing88]

From what I gathered both of them are righht, Fikile is right and Helen is right. Fikile says you will need 60% and the interviewer only understood it from the GNU position yet if the GNU has a deadlock Helen says in needs to go to cabinet sits to vote. GNU DOESN'T take away from cabinet vote and if thats the case then MK AND EFF and all of will be warming sits. Hence Mbalula said it's not the case that they will always need DA because at cabinet EFF, MK, UDM, FF etc may vote along them. NOT NEEDING DA. So Helen is just causing unnecessary chaos. Fikile meant to say if the GNU agree it makes it easy to pass in the cabinet vote. If the GNU doesn't agree then they go to cabinet vote and it may go either ways, knowing EFF AND MK they will never vote along DA Helen needs to stop being too emotional trying to confuse the uneducated. Follow American politics, this is where we are

[@SoultyBoiBeats]

It's like buying second hand car and it never leave the dealership due to overheating issues

[@kidcharlemagne9139]

Clement was at pains to ask the same question to Fikile and Helen over and over again. If you don't like the question it must still be answered.

[@rorisangnomngcongo3468]

Mbalula was like, where do I sign?

[@muzislingshots1413]

Protecting Ramaphosa is very expensive. ANC has as much say as DA in this government

[@andrewchipo9282]

Clement am very happy with how u ask questions sir

[@nohanesolomon1396]

Pray for this government to work please guys

[@AlexMnisi-jz5ph]

Nothing to pray for here. Da played with anc. And this fools of anc got played along. Now we must pray for deir foolishness?🚮🚮. No dey must face the music. I'm sure now dey happy to sell de lives of south Africans to de enemy. But dey were warned but chose not to listen because dey thot dey knw everything. But its okay we people of south Africa must suffer now because of mbalula and ramaphosa😢. They shal not get peace in deir lives

[@manyamamashakodavid4104]

I pray for it to fail. Why must we be praying for something that is built on evil grounds, such as protecting a thief whom the Bible is against stealing and encouraging us to be honest, tell the truth, not to steal, etc

[@NathanZar]

Wont waste our prayers.

[@usercantbeblank]

Looks like comrades thought this is their usual under the table contract. She really is in charge now, Comrades didn't bother to read the fine print.😂😂😂

[@samanthabhengu6127]

Thank my brother on showing Mbalula how domped he is in collective ANC

[@KhanyaGabela]

Zille says according signed agreement Cyril must consult on cabinet and admission of parties to their GNU.

[@ZuzumziNgubo]

Baphi abo si happy thina

[@lebohangmohapi8605]

Ey sisazobona la!

[@nickmatyida77]

This GNU is already on shaky ground. Zille is calling the shots

[@mariusjacobs83]

This is not true. The agreement signed is calling the shots. Helen simply understands the agreement and will follow it, the same as all GNU parties must.

[@hgfku-tn6hb]

A lot of expectations from the DA that has been critical of the ANC for decades. Prove yourself right

[@lebohangmolapo6161]

When he said listeners. That's when all things went south

[@12sethmo]

ANC has always been clueless

[@BenHlaheng]

Mbalula is lost here,it seems the presenter speaks something that they never thought of it as ancyril

[@princenkovane150]

best interview ever🤣, this guy dealt with Fikile.

[@ntobekodube2081]

The way she doesn't respect Fikile you can tell she knows he won't be around for long 😂😂😂😂😂

[@gugublake911]

Yt's always make it so obvious when they know something

[@McLEDWABAATTORNEYS]

He must leave his useless 😂

[@marien9585]

Yoh....this interview, ANC was quick to sign and they don't even know what they got into😂😂😂.

[@jimmymaponyane419]

Malema told us about Mbalula 😭😭😭

[@aviatormk8720]

Do the voters of the DA and ANC agree on this GNU? Is this what they wanted?

[@bigl3885]

No they don't. DA voters have been lied to.

[@nomarussia5085]

More of a situation of no one has a choice

[@nomarussia5085]

Everyone agrees with no one

[@ZuzumziNgubo]

There's no voters that agrees in this GNU,only those parliament members that took their decisions without voters

[@HelenJooste-i8i]

Whar we did with the ANC. We'll do with the GNU. Then we'll VOTE them ALL OUT

[@dezembaone5959]

The GNU document is a pure representation of USA government with the president having to consult the Senate with every decision. By the way USA is a Federal State and Zile, the DA is a federal party which believes in federal governance instead of pure Democratic state governance. So the US guided the DA in the GNU ANC is comprised 🤣🤣

[@lizz4390]

Why do you think they flew over to America all those times😂😂😂

[@rosina1998]

We are in trouble 😂

[@lindenihedebe8108]

Oh dear Fikile Mbalula

[@thierryndiho1613]

This coalition has already collapsed before it started.

[@Userde989]

Fake coalition

[@thulasnkosi9641]

Just like the moonshot pact

[@carolanngelderbloem3209]

Eish..

[@ZuzumziNgubo]

Baphi abo si happy angisababoni

[@josephphitla1254]

My president Julius Malema told dem history will judge dem harshly 😂

[@jacklenge531]

Malema see things like a eagle..from far

[@LindilechristopherMgqobele]

😂

[@craigclifton7254]

Speak for yourself a d your country not ours

[@silaskhalishwayo]

​@@craigclifton7254 who are you 😂

[@ethanrogers7457]

Male ma’s tune changed though

[@mosesdinake41]

...if 20% of DA gives DA 30% of seats in GNU then ANC with its 40% of election results will represent 60% in GNU...Mbalula is smart and I understand him very well because if one of the GNU party is not in agreement then sufficient consensus will draw a measure where all parties in GNU reaches one agreement, that measure in not yet devised...

[@TshepisoHlongwane-m3n]

Mbalula lights out😂😂😢

[@Bong6974-e8s]

Stupid that man couldn't ANC get someone who can think

[@NkhataGivenjay]

Whether they were consulted on the joining of these baby parties or not the DA knew that ANC won't make any decisions without them because they already said that mk and eff won't be part of the so-called GNU.

[@ThisIsNotAFamilyMatter]

I think Clement and Mbalula were not understanding each other about the 60%. Section 19.3 of the STATEMENT OF INTENT OF THE 2024 GOVERNMENT OF NATIONAL UNITY is not well structured. However, it can have two intepretation. First intepretation is 60% of the GNU using National Assembly seats allocation (i.e. ANC makes 58% of the GNU using national seats). Therefore, Mbalula was correct that partnership with others except DA will still be able to do so). Second intepretation is 60% of the National Assembly seats allocation (i.e. ANC will have its 40%). Hellen was not 100% honest that Clement was wrong in his intepretation.

[@Margarets-dn2dq]

Peace and Blessings...

[@molokomack332]

Clement is confusing 60% of parliament and 60% of the cabinet. ANC with IFP forms more than what sufficient consensus requires because of the absence of EFF and MK in the GNU arrangement. I thought it is important to highlight that fact.

[@bonauzuko534]

DA has been so strategic about this GNU monster. It shows they have done their spade work long before the elections

[@KhumoKonke]

In 1994. Watch Mandela vs Deklerk debate

[@nazikay1340]

Been waiting for this signature these ones…

[@mohjayy]

They’ve got a lot of wealthy powerful people pulling the strings from behind the scenes

[@siphompungose765]

This interview clearly stipulates that this GNU is an arrangement made elsewhere as the EFF claims. Fikile and Hellen are already not moving together in the same direction in comprehension of the signed agreement.

[@KhanyaGabela]

Zille has put Mbalula under the bus on 60%

[@DumisaniNkomo-d6k]

What kind of idiots agree to such knowing the numbers🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

[@francinamotsa3661]

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣true he looked more confused and lost than regular citizens of SA the man is lost shame

[@mthemburosemary498]

​@@francinamotsa3661that is what I notice

[@Massive_kgodi]

So if 6 million SA wanted u to continue then y didn't u let ppl of KZN be let by MK?

[@nohanesolomon1396]

Mk party is busy contesting votes, not attending parliament, the leaders of MK are playing chess mos, while people who voted for them were waiting for their lead

[@ZuzumziNgubo]

Bayeke we nkunzi bagqubeke ne GNU yabo ebonakala engathi izoshabalala maduze

[@thembekaradebe2292]

Thats a million dollar question

[@BonganiMaseko-d3s]

MK it's a mess no structure lapho

[@LungeloMchunu]

​@@BonganiMaseko-d3swatch the space...😂😁

[@Beautiful01x]

Ramaphosa gave Anc away to the opposition. 😮

[@johantheunissen8367]

The voters gave him no choice

[@sfisophirie8704]

He had a choice , resign

[@luyandasotholesompisi9470]

He did have a choice he just choose the worse one it gonna be a bumpy 5 years

[@ZuzumziNgubo]

Mina ngifuna ukubona laba ebebethi ba happy baphi manje

[@patienceikombele9161]

Ziyakhala ke manje 😂😂😂😂😂

[@sibongazikhali1585]

This is not going to last

[@Userde989]

I said the same thing

[@YETI_312]

it will. You just dont want it to. You cant tell me that qualified overseers are wrong and you are right.

[@ZuzumziNgubo]

Kuthulekile baphi laba ebebethi ba happy

[@frankvee2799]

@@YETI_312 STFU YOU MEAN WHITE WHO LIE EVERYDAY TO FIT THEIR NARRATIVE

[@MphoRampou]

The anc tried this in 1994 the NP opted out because common sense is clear if we don't agree on fundamental policies, we are going to have a fall out

[@tshiamonthebolang2554]

Washaaaa Clement 🔥🔥 You are very practical in questioning! You not hamstrung by…..😅

[@mziyandamanuku45]

I keep understanding the question more and more but not the answer ku hot and cold nje, sweet n sour 😂😂

[@GoodnessQonda]

Gogo Helen ❤👏👏👏 My vote was not wasted

[@pinkyphungula]

Zima said it, this is an unholy collaboration 😂

[@chrisMchon]

They didn't listen to him

[@glomab2758]

​@@chrisMchonBecause they hate him. It seems like he's the only one who can save us from this mess now 😢

[@chrisMchon]

@@glomab2758 i hate this

[@glomab2758]

@@chrisMchon We are in trouble my brother

[@thulasnkosi9641]

Fikile signed a document that he doesnt understand 😂😂😂😂😂we are doomed 😂😂😂😂

[@nomarussia5085]

What’s new, they never read

[@thulasnkosi9641]

@@nomarussia5085 lomagogo is going to arrest all of them coz baDom Dom Dom

[@paulerdosdaughter]

Who wrote it 😂😂

[@thulasnkosi9641]

@@paulerdosdaughter Helen in 2019 🤣🤣🤣🤣 she is 5 years ahead of these tired old Geysers sisenxakini

[@faithing88]

From what I gathered both of them are righht, Fikile is right and Helen is right. Fikile says you will need 60% and the interviewer only understood it from the GNU yet if the GNU has a deadlock Helen says in needs to go to cabinet sits to vote. Hence Mbalula said it's not the case that they will always need DA. because at cabinet EFF, MK, UDM, FF etc may vote along them. The GNU seeks to have advantage when they go to cabinet

[@tshidiso9653]

This GNU will explode before it even starts. Fikile Mbalula is clueless 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

[@miehleketokwinika6060]

The EFF warned us

[@pinkyphungula]

Mk did the same

[@KhanyaGabela]

Mbalula doesn't understand a document he signed with DA.

[@mecharamorula4660]

Let's see how far and to what extent, the ANC is willing to protect Ramaphosa.

[@hlamzar]

I didn't know Helen was a comedian. "I'm not the leader of the DA" what a funny bit😂

[@sphamandlaluthuli7475]

Mbalula does not understand the GNU. He still thinks the executive central power rests with the ANC, which is hilarious 😂

[@tonyheroBW]

Clement got this all mixed up. It's not 60% of the seats in national assembly but 60% of the total seats the GNU holds.

[@KhurishiNgwato]

True..but IFP gets mandate from DA

[@Thoughtsbyme-ts4jz]

Gosh but it doesn’t matter. They can’t even get to 50% without the DA so what is he saying

[@GiftanaPoverty]

Mbaks should have listened to Malema 😂😂

[@samanthabhengu6127]

Mbalula must understand that he and ANC never proposed anything for this grouping called gnu instead DA had one when they say EFF and MK can't work with so from this said by DA I'll say no no no to a name tribute to combination of the partys in parliament not called ugn

[@melikhayapantsi783]

He signed the document without understanding the very same clauses in it, iyhoo!

[@gago-fj7hu]

Clement gets it wrong,its 60% in the government of national unity not in the national assembly! ANC has 60% seats,DA 30% then the remaining 4 makes 10%.

[@tinamatlhake9604]

She said, “without the DA, the ANC can’t reach 60% of seats in the National Assembly occupied by the GNU”. So the sufficient majority was raised in the National Assembly, “Where consensus is not possible the principle of sufficient consensus must apply, seats representing 60% of the seats in the National Assembly must agree”.

[@Steez_Sentience]

You are as dense as this mbalula guy you don’t understand things in their layman terms

[@AllenMashoai]

GNU in a clear sense is a coalition of all the parties having representation in the parliament and decisions taken by GNU must be voted with 60% instead of the normal (50+1%) as this GNU is larger So ANC with the smaller parties can not make that 60%;it needs the DA Then there's also a clause saying approval is needed for parties to join;this is to make sure that ANC never invite MK and EFF which will aid in reaching 60% without DA

[@KhanyaGabela]

Surely this alliance with was to protect Phalaphala matter

[@IftachSaar]

It's clearly said that new evidence can impeach the President and the DA suggested John Steenhuisen as vice president. You do the math

[@creatorearnie]

I think Clement is missing the point and it's unfortunate that both Zille and Mbalula also doesn't know how to respond. the DA constitutes 30% on this agreement, which means the rest has 70%. Why is he thinking the other parties will require DA to rubber stamp every decision? The 60% required is the 60% of all the parties in the gnu and not the seats in parliament. I don't understand what confusing them...

[@boetr7014]

At this point the Anc must be experiencing buyer's remorse. But this is what you get when you enter into a deal with the devil.

[@nodeliziyalomfecane271]

The look on Mbalula's face when the host said Helen Zille will join him, priceless😂

[@genivamolepo7630]

Lol the way Mbalula is trying to do merry go round is so funny 😂😂😂😂i would like to hear what my president Malema would say about this interview,😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Paradigm_Shiift]

Man you did a stellar job in these conversations 🤝

[@kealebogakgatitswe8546]

Mbalula is a fool😭

[@olwethumkhwanazi9747]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ThaboRampedi]

You are also a fool

[@Thoughtsbyme-ts4jz]

He needs to be told to keep quiet until someone explains it to him

[@thomasmtontsi4128]

😂😢😂😅😂

[@12sethmo]

And a stupid one

[@Linda-ld6vd]

Ja neh! Sounds like we've been played, AS A PEOPLE

[@GcinasonkeSimanyeLudidi]

The ANC must be cautious this aggrement has a lot that is not yet visible to the human eye

[@NdodaLudidi]

That's what I have picked up as well

[@AlexMnisi-jz5ph]

Dey have already signed

[@Margarets-dn2dq]

We remember.... President Mandela's way ....follow what President Mandela implemented....❤