Elections360 Weekly | Heated crime debate as parties square off in Western Cape

On tonight's elections debate, political parties debate about the high rate of crime in the country. The debate was held at Langa Community hall in the Western Cape.
ANC was represented by Bheki Cele, PA by Cheslyn Steenberg, DA by Ian Cameron, EFF by Nazier Paulsen, Good Party was represented by Brett Herron and Al Jama-ah by Advocate Shameemah Salie.
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[@graham9794]

It's confirmed!! South African's National IQ test will be written on 29 May.

[@leslenesantana7575]

ANC is a failure in every department!

[@bekkerbosbeer3453]

Once you actually send the criminals to jail, it will make sense!!!

[@lebraa9233]

ANC Exitpolls what a USELESSS Ministers failed State all around 😩😩

[@leslenesantana7575]

Bheki can’t even talk properly time to go on pension!

[@veronicakarstel9126]

Jail rather

[@sabelosphalas1747]

​@@veronicakarstel9126😂😂😂

[@DrRed-dj6or]

You are obviously bias

[@balsak007]

​@@DrRed-dj6orand you are not?

[@lebraa9233]

AGREE with you Very much too old man should be long time on PENSION all sleeping behind the Desktop 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mrsgoemans-leith]

What is the point of having a clock if the debaters only talk louder when asked to stop 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@vt5371]

One of the worst "debate" I have seen so far!

[@lucasjansenvanvuuren8756]

Agreed, it is a waste of time, no real depth of getting to answers, cheap politicking. Lack of fundamental understanding even by the questions from the crowds, with very obvious bias,

[@bekkerbosbeer3453]

Bheki has no idea what he is talking about!!!

[@lebraa9233]

Bheki talking Dementetion behind the Desktop old these ex Présidenten 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@onlyeverydaysa5029]

Yes these different departments don't speak to each other and it shows.

[@lebraa9233]

@@onlyeverydaysa5029 AGREE with you i belief its different departements they don't discussiëren with each others that is Why its mess intolerant altogether

[@Jitesh_Dayal]

The failure is on the stage. ANC man Cele

[@lebraa9233]

That Cele ANC should be long time on PENSION all get free salaris which does'nt presenteren

[@devilliersduplessis7904]

Go Iron Cameroon!

[@ross7901]

Brett Heron's political slogan should be: 'I should know better'

[@glynisstevens7638]

Get rid if cele

[@chrisbadenhorst5304]

What boggles my mind is how all these political parties say "The DA has failed in policing". Last time I checked the SAPS is part of government. And the ANC is government, the DA is NOT the government. So all these smart arses actually just pointed out how stupid they are AND how incompetent the anc is.

[@Stewylewy]

Everything in this video could have been summarised in 15 minutes. Between the transparent politicking of the speakers to the chaos of the crowd and the failure to manage the debate, this is a snapshot of what is wrong with South African politics.

[@AlternativPerspectiv]

People keep talking about wanting policing resources in their area... do they pay tax? Do thy pay rates and levies to the municipality? All the informal settlements that are just a problem, do they contribute ANYTHING at all to the taxbase that pays for police? No. Then they must shut up.

[@veronicakarstel9126]

Get what you pay for. Everything free and most fled EC to become a burden to us ratepayers

[@kambuyiblack7462]

@veronicakarstel9126 You sound delusional. Townships are big contributers to South Africas economy. The police department is not funded based on how much property levies and taxes you pay. Read the budget speech. Since crime is destroying our economy and these communities are sources of some criminals, members of these communities feel that more policing will mitigate some of the extreme forms of criminality in their area. Your comment indicates to me you do not recognise these people in townships as human beings worthy of basic rights. You talk about money when the conversation is about human lives and longterm stability. There is no law prohibiting the free movement of any South Africa to greener pastures. Western Cape is not an independent state nor will it ever become one - more and more black people will migrate there until you can't tell who is black and who is not, that will help you from discriminating people based on the colour of their skin.

[@balsak007]

​@@kambuyiblack7462Yeah black people voted for the ANC in the EC and then moved to greener pastures. Like they did 300 years ago. Where does the budget gets its income from? Taxes! You vote on the basis of race only, where are you going to move once the WC looks like the EC? Zim?

[@PingPong-Jhb]

The questions are being asked the wrong people, there is nothing we will get from these ones.

[@donreebyr]

Why is this guy of pa say the Da can't do nothing who is running this country isn't it ANC say anc can't solve problems in this country if the Da was running this this country you will have seen law and order

[@SandraVanEeden]

Those supporters of the anc, you should ask one of them what solutions do they have.

[@devilliersduplessis7904]

Their must be equality, that is their solution

[@vdw_12500]

Go DA!!!!

[@claudettebirkett1302]

Why is United Independent Movement never invited to participate on this platform ? Always the same old political party's.. we need fresh young leaders with solutions. It is time for change. We are tired if anc, eff , Al Jamah !

[@veronicakarstel9126]

UIM have my vote

[@top-gnews8333]

Eff is not in goverment?

[@lebraa9233]

EFF must demand Police on His Minister Président ANC" Inpowerment Not demand Police assistent on DA??

[@leslenesantana7575]

Thank you DA 🙏 #voteDA #rescueSA 🙏🇿🇦💙

[@johannel9982]

Listening to the majority of the supporters it is clear they don't accept criminal behaviour is a wilful act. I now understand why it was policed the way it was before 1994 and why we could sleep safe at night in those days

[@veronicakarstel9126]

Look at the fat useless idiotic cops

[@veronicakarstel9126]

We WANT the republic of the WC

[@LebohangPonoane6346]

Criminals are arrested, but Department of Justice take them out on min amount of money. Whilst the victims and communities in blacks and coloureds areas are suffering.

[@user-hn3ve5bu4o]

Ian Cameron for police

[@kholiswambozi9997]

ANC and DA🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@CassidayJacobs]

Ek Baiza Nie!

[@eldenrossouw314]

Bheki Cele "we have arrested 600 thousand and something criminals" but they dont arrest themselves

[@elizemeissenheimer8345]

Aljamah advovate100% for you👍👍👍

[@user-ux3ed3ni1p]

Clearly, these institutions are not communicating and working together and hence the people suffer. Clearly, there is a benefit to the chaos.

[@MuhammadNoorMia]

Why is NCC not on the panel ??

[@shanaazcloete8531]

They will be shocked when the discounted NCC takes away a lot of the DA votes in the WC.

[@3ch0ri0t9]

PA taking alot from DA

[@JCdevoss]

This is basically a debate between the DA and the ANC and it's coalition parties (including Al Jamah)

[@AlternativPerspectiv]

41:00 So officers who can't drive or use a gun were fired and ANC is upset? See why we have problems in South Africa? "They should have been assisted"... assisted to what? Forge passes?

[@veronicakarstel9126]

Bought licenses

[@karthi7016]

80+murders a day... We are a murderous bunch...

[@hennie4122]

Staan sement vas! Ons baiza nie! Patriotic Alliance

[@renaldonoland2298]

PA has got my vote.

[@veronicakarstel9126]

Unemployable but dance. Stunted brain growth

[@vusikhawula5686]

And you want black people to vote for your DA.. Yet you can't even hide your racism and white supremism bigotry

[@AustinGates1996]

Gayton's ability to engage in dialogue with both top global executives and gang leaders to negotiate terms of peace underscores his unique position to lead South Africa forward and effectively address crime.

[@devilliersduplessis7904]

Something about leopards and spits. His track records isn't great either, maybe if he partnered with someone morale with a track record?

[@ethomas6598]

If Ian Cameron did not stand up against Bheki Nckele, none of these parties would be so against Western Cape. Why are they not trying to prove themselves by building up a small Town so that we can see just how well they can govern. Western cape government has already proved it can govern, Criminal run parties will just destroy Western cape. Well done DA

[@user-hn3ve5bu4o]

Vote DA

[@mrsgoemans-leith]

Silly to ask a criminal how to get rid of crime in South Africa. The ANC are contributing to SA's high crime rates so how can we expect them to fix it??

[@user-ku8kf9yy5g]

It all start at home, we should teach our family, kids, neighborhood, citizens that crime is wrong, this criminals have parents family, we complain about crime and we protect them, we don't assist but we know, we with hold information, most of us is part of the problem, we the citizens protect this criminals.

[@ThuIaniNgobeni]

Ian Cameron is the man

[@AndrewMcFarlane_1]

R30k per hour for a drone? Herron has no idea

[@beingbantu7528]

Where is my party actionSA 💚💚💚

[@arnoldduncan4358]

The muslim lady this is for you don't blame the DA some of your Coments are incorrect

[@mothusiemangselemane3629]

failed to answer Q2

[@rushmore100]

Its great that so many political parties think the DA is the national government.

[@hlesko3254]

SA never answered one question concerning townships

[@pitsopitso1857]

They cud have just invited ANC and DA only...😂

[@zwelonkelikhecks9075]

EFF all the way come 29 May we are ready ❤❤❤

[@veronicakarstel9126]

Dream on

[@user-gc6wx1gr7k]

The dream is to inform that we are going through and looking brighter after 29 May.

[@magezapc493]

Besides the incompetency, particularly from the 'General', these panelist all of them lack professionalism. Their parties could have sent bettter people!!! Worst debate ever.

[@sokopinions]

And that's SAs minister everybody!!!! 😅

[@thandugonose9769]

We are never gonna win the fight against crime in SA as long as we are doing this politicking. Crime in SA has affects everyone and we must stand together to fight it instead of blaming each other, otherwise there will be no country for our kids.

[@keaganscott5956]

Bheki can't fight his way out of a wet paper bag...

[@user-hn3ve5bu4o]

DA to rescue SA

[@fancyIOP]

LOL, Mama Zille.

[@111MRrj]

Bheki moet slaap

[@veronicakarstel9126]

Permanent sleep

[@paulrowe9486]

Cele is am embarassment to the whole nation ???

[@claradamons399]

Ice Vehicles are used as public transport thats why our police transport are always out of order.

[@dineshanpillay5944]

Anc pays a lot for puppets

[@fanelepatrick1438]

Why now?

[@user-mg3pp7bz1e]

Crime😢crime😢crime who will listen 2 our cries, cry my beloved people cry my beloved country CRIME IS OUT OF HAND the old man must go and rest he can't do anything he is tired, we tired 2 b tired of CRIME 😢😢😢😢😢

[@lebraa9233]

I m afraid Crime Yours Minister Bheki Cele Don't take his Nation serieus they playing games with people which is Very Sad situation scarying living 🤔

[@ayandamvana6249]

EFF will fight crime ⚫🔴🟢

[@veronicakarstel9126]

Criminals EFF

[@user-gc6wx1gr7k]

Chest pain's..

[@ferasmus1]

Pay back the VBS stolen money @ EFF

[@ayandamvana6249]

@@ferasmus1 You being the only one still on VBS should tell you 🤣🤣🤣 Either you're behind or you're dumb. You decide

[@user-ni2db7vf3q]

Malema for president

[@HemiJB91]

Lol might as well vote anc

[@veronicakarstel9126]

EFF are losing votes

[@BeleniYara-ow2zq]

EFF 🇿🇦💯🔥❤🌟 is ready to govern this country My vote belong to EFF ❤ 🇿🇦

[@veronicakarstel9126]

Are we supposed to understand these people? No wonder they don't get jobs

[@user-tb4jv3tl4v]

bheki hambolala

[@mohaleSlebea776]

The DA biggest disappointment is that they deliver services to areas that are fully developed and leave those that less developed.

[@moosesnWoop]

IDK how cele can defend his work

[@lebraa9233]

Cele His crazy Minister His defending himself absoluut nonsense speeched less full óf lies with corruption all those ANC Leaders Exitpolls

[@breightscott]

Lol ANC is a Joke and so is Al Jamah of lets not forget EFF. PA FOR THE WIN

[@user-gc6wx1gr7k]

Party of abahumbe as their manifesto it has no capacity to handle its own.. Party of mafias interested to enrich its owners with our mines..

[@tinopopsyhove6747]

EFF ❤🎉😂

[@BerlineRoseberry]

Political parties should campaign until the elections. After elections whoever is in power should stop politics and start to service the people. They can only win crime if they put their ideas and resources together and not focusing on individual political parties of who is the winner. Why can the army not be utilized to assist gang related crime ridden areas in the country. The current government have no political will to some crime or gaangsterism as the majority crimes are I the so-called colored mixed communities who does not support the current government. The government is also claiming taxes on those insurance claims. ie

[@icno123]

No no this is banana south africa you can steal, loot, be corrupt and be incompetent but they will still vote for the AXIS OF EVIL 👹 EFF MK ANC = Low IQ PPL 😹

[@jadepalmer6338]

How can SA reclaim their streets? 🤔 First off we need a minister of police that's not a gangster Then we need police who are fit enough to run after the criminals And not take bribes from the criminals or I should say not take cool drink money We need visibility not cops who are sitting at the station falling asleep in their chairs and get naar with you coming for an affidavit

[@user-hn3ve5bu4o]

Some coloureds choose gangsterism, it's power for a whie

[@thandolwethumlamla2740]

the DA boertjie has astrong racist character and we would never trust him

[@YongaShologu-he9jj]

Monday we want all the presidents not just party members we want to see ramaphosas ability to debate

[@TheGuitarNewby]

The fact of the matter is that only one of the panelists actually do work on the ground, and are involved in the communities. The rest are just yapping rhetoric.

[@devilliersduplessis7904]

Are you referring to Iron Cameroon? The Afro guy?

[@glynisstevens7638]

What rubbish that western cape is excluding people

[@zandigaga393]

DA 👎👎

[@badboy15nd]

The DA is the only political party that can save South Africa.❤

[@carl4017]

And when DA is gone then there will be no province to run to

[@zandigaga393]

@carl4017 Services only stay within the boarders of an urban suburb in any DA ran municipality especially in the western cape

[@carl4017]

@@zandigaga393 you mean services go to the people paying for those services within those urban areas. Large majority of DAs spending go on informal settlements despite the fact that they don't always pay for the services. If rate payers don't get serviced, they leave. How else do you expect the DA to keep rate payers in wp without giving them what they paid for?

[@kgomotsomfisa7038]

EFF all the way

[@mohaleSlebea776]

Even those who do not want to admit know that The EFF is the only capacitated Organisation to lead SA

[@user-ni2db7vf3q]

Vivha eff

[@valsables5299]

DONT BE SO JEALOUS OF THE ANC

[@babolico9354]

EFF VIVA EFF 2024

[@LehlohonoloCalf]

viva ANC

[@valsables5299]

THE ANC IS BOBAAS😂

[@zandigaga393]

💛🖤💚Viva ANC

[@BeleniYara-ow2zq]

I hope you didn't use money for this useless debate Even school kids could debate much better than those political parties except the EFF EFF 🇿🇦 EFF ❤

[@ayandaquku900]

Benzele bani?only white rich people, PANTSI NGE DDDDAAAA...DA PANTSI, VIVA MKONTO VIVA, FORWARD NGE MK PARTY PAMBILI ASIJIKI ASOYIKI SIYAYA, ASIBOYIKI SIYABAFUNA, AMANDLA

[@TheReintech]

This is a waste of time

[@user-ds4mt9hf2z]

We have dumped all non anc votes so that only anc wins viva anc viva

[@icno123]

29:15 HIGH QUALITY POLITICIAN 🏆

[@khanyiso514]

VivaEFF viva!!❤❤❤

[@user-bt6ex7kw5v]

Rubbish EFF adding to crime with its foreigners

[@blueberryhill6948]

The province to lead all provinces ❤❤❤❤ The Western Cape 💅🏾🫶🏽💅🏾🫶🏽👍🏽

[@herbtuck1481]

The province with the most murders

[@veronicakarstel9126]

Well half of EC is here

[@sabelosphalas1747]

​@@veronicakarstel9126you blame Eastern Cape? 😂