Leo and Layla: The WORST Conservative Cartoon Ever Made

[@Saberspark]

Pre-download Zenless Zone Zero on July 2nd! The game officially comes out on July 4th, so don't miss out: hoyo.link/eoOiFJBL #zenless0704 #zzzero #zenlesszonezero So for those who suffered, what are your thoughts about Leo and Layla?

[@さくちゃんん]

a

[@krewstudios3467]

Hh

[@lKappa]

B

[@KillerMoth3]

Can you do a review of the Libertarian cartoon series The Tuttle Twins?

[@juliangandara9552]

And the Jehová Witnesses cartoon video when?

[@whoknowsatthispoint7508]

"Being taken as a slave is better than being killed, no?" Tell that to the number of people that tried to jump of slave boats and drown just to avoid how they were being treated.

[@themysteriouscrumpet]

Someone should ask that question to Dennis Praeger.

[@lulufan100]

What happened to give me liberty or give me death? 🤔 Didn't the venerated founding fathers declare independence because they compared taxation without representation to slavery? Who are we supposed to listen to on the topic of slavery?

[@CollinMcLean]

Or who died during the crossing because of how terrible the conditions were.

[@catherinebaldwin6580]

It reminds me of the story of Beloved. Which is based on a black slaved mother trying to kill her kids so they wouldn't suffer from slavery. Apparently someone on the judge court said something like, Isn't this a mother greatest gift? To free her children and return them to God instead of slavery? Dark stuff, and that is awful to say given the truth.

[@scaper8]

​@@lulufan100 Well, you see, the whole "liberty or death" thing is only for the white, er, I mean _right_ people.

[@aresalmeida1676]

I love how the Columbus episode, which was supposed to portray him as the good guy, implied that he knew that slavery was wrong but did it anyway

[@thegayghost872]

Probably because the people making the cartoon think slavery is cool

[@MaylocBrittinorum]

Not only did Columbus did it, he went further than his contemporaries to impose it for his own greed: one of the accusations levied at him after he was imprisoned in 1500 was that he prevented priests from baptizing the native Taínos, as that would mean that they would no longer be heathens and, therefore, they could no longer be (legally) enslaved, as Christians were forbidden from enslaving other Christians.

[@jo6re3]

This did happen historically too (not with Columbus, mind). EG Thomas Jefferson initially wrote a condemnation of slavery in the original Declaration of Independence before removing it for fear of losing support from the southern states, all while owning slaves himself

[@Blucham]

“Columbus was a ground breaking, world changing, innovating HERO!” “With Slavery?” “He was just following trends…”

[@NikkiBudders]

Fr, even though they were framing him as an "ignorant" individual and therefore shouldn't be judged as pure evil for his knowingly exploitative evils, he still said such wildly out of pocket shit and they just ignored it

[@amandapike2477]

I'm forty two and when *I* was little I had to do a book report on Columbus using "real research" (no Internet). So I went to the public library and found an English translation of HIS journal. He spoke of how simple minded the natives were because they cut themselves touching a sword, not knowing what it was. And how they would make "great slaves." When I told my teacher about this she brushed it off that I wasn't supposed to read THAT book. It was... His... journal...

[@Salikino]

I'm glad schools are slowly starting to become more accurate in some places

[@yoursonisold8743]

If conservative enforced book bannings are anything to go by they want to go right back to this type of teaching.

[@Salikino]

@@yoursonisold8743 Or go worse than that type of teaching

[@yoursonisold8743]

@@Salikino Yes, after all conservative states banned critical race theory, the ability to even talk about LGBT in schools and any books that portrays slavery as bad. They are full on trying to drag America back into the 1800s.

[@yoursonisold8743]

@@Salikino Conservative states banned CRT in schools, the ability to even talk about LGBT and all books that recount what bad things Americans did in the 1800s. They want to roll the country back to the middle ages.

[@jdotoz]

0:35 - Okay, let's judge him by the standards of his time. 1435: Pope Eugene VI excommunicates Spaniards who enslaved the Canary Islanders 1537: Pope Paul III declares that "Indians and all other people who may later be discovered by Christians, are by no means to be deprived of their liberty or the possession of their property."

[@twinzzlers]

Based popes

[@Mrnooknook]

They tried, but from I here the laws in spain were too far out of the America's for them to do anything

[@jdotoz]

@@Mrnooknook Yes, it turns out that Catholics ignoring the Pope isn't a modern phenomenon.

[@Mrnooknook]

@@jdotoz I see

[@Cr4z3d]

@@jdotoz Lol

[@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire]

The irony being that Columbus was so bad during his own era, COLUMBUS WAS LITERALLY ARRESTED FOR HOW CRUEL HE WAS

[@Dave-te5bs]

He was a dumb explorer who discovered an island. Than all the power went to his head and he became a tyrant

[@the_cursed_dude230]

​@UTubeTroIIPoIiceNWOthat autolike

[@Bolbi145]

To be fair they let him out after several weeks

[@urotaion9879]

@UTubeTroIIPoIiceNWOHow does this relate to the conversation at hand? This better be at the bare minimum ironic. Age is not just a number, it represents a life stage, one that isn’t mature enough to understand the weight of what’s going on in the case of Pedophilia. Take this disgusting shit elsewhere.

[@Applstack]

​@@urotaion9879 it's just a bot that says to normalize the weirdest things

[@maxbrooks5468]

If you judge Columbus by the standards of our time, he’s a total monster. But if you judge Columbus by the standards of his own time he’s … still a total monster.

[@longwlenguyen4214]

Columbus was so horrible that the Jesuit Priests and the missionary send to convert the Natives hated Columbus, the colonist despises him, the literal Spanish monarchy and their brightest intellectuals mocked Columbus for his lacked of research, that how bad Columbus was.

[@Black.Templar_002]

that's simply not true tho. Columbus was frowned upon, yes, but more because of his admittedly lunatic scientific beliefs and a LOT of attitude rather than his colonial practises. He actually did okay as a Governor, but was plagued by high level infighting and incompetent subordinates, which hindered his progress. So saying his peers thought he was a monster is simply inaccurate.

[@user-zz3sn8ky7z]

@@Black.Templar_002 He was literally imprisoned for being a shit governor

[@Black.Templar_002]

@@user-zz3sn8ky7z he was imprisoned due to the rivalry with a different spanish official who wanted him gone

[@matteoinvernazzi4331]

even if we can argue that we should judge things neutrally when looking back with an historical poin of view, he still is a bad person even with that in mind

[@DracoMagnius]

Christopher Columbus: "Don't judge me by your centuries' morals." people of the time: "No, no, he's awful. Don't listen to him. "

[@jeepmega629]

@@DracoMagnius Convenient that PragerU left out any of those accounts of the time.

[@applecatnyango]

@@jeepmega629 They always do this. They'll defend the founders' possession of slaves as if that didn't at all contradict their belief that all men were created equal.

[@warlordofbritannia]

So awful that he was removed from power by the Spanish monarchs who started the Inquisition. That’s a special level of bad.

[@Greatduck777]

@@applecatnyangothe founders’ didn’t see people of other races as men, I assume.

[@Ariaelyne]

As well as the fact that judging the past by your own morals was a thing people in his time did too.

[@skullkid9475]

Saying that europeans drew the line at cannibalism is crazy considering bitumen is the whole reason mummies are so rare

[@burner555]

They nearly ate them to extinction??!!?

[@Mouse-bk5rd]

not just mummies, human fat, usually harvested from executed criminals (and thus often a major source of income for executioners), was used as medicine for a good few centuries

[@sm1purplmurderedme583]

they are literally insane

[@RhycenSparn]

Holy shit, I gotta look into this

[@JoshuaAndres]

The Dutch also ate their prime minister once

[@Gotthicc]

I also notice none of these historical figures are calling for Layla to be arrested for wearing pants, which through some points of history was actually illegal.

[@ghostpaper3614]

Not to mention the tank top. Is that what it's called? Showing so much skin, they would think she was a prostitute or something.

[@SeasideDetective2]

From what I've heard, it was illegal as recently as the 1950s at most U.S. high schools, public as well as private. I seem to remember one story about one of those '50s students being forced to stand outside until she changed into a skirt, even though it was a cold day.

[@Gotthicc]

@@SeasideDetective2 It's even more sad than that. I pulled this quote from a PBS article: In fact, a person perceived as male who dressed in clothing customarily designed for women could technically be arrested in New York for “impersonating a female” as recently as 2011 - the remnants of a 19th century statewide law prohibiting wearing “the dress of the opposite sex.”May 31, 2015

[@chrispchips2721]

I too didn't do any research. Our school outlawed wearing heavy jackets, therfore it is "illegal". Or maybe that was just dress code. In all reality you can find photos of women wearing pants way before 1950. Just because people's fashion choices are different than yours today doesn't mean much. Just as people aren't bad for not wearing hats all around today.

[@Gotthicc]

@@chrispchips2721 Let me clarify a little since I have done a little bit of research. There were laws about "cross dressing" for a long period of time but they were *mostly* targeted towards transgender women and drag queens preventing "men from wearing women's clothing". For women they had a little more leg room [heh] as long as they still presented as feminine with their fashions. It's the same as today where police had discretion on who they could arrest on suspicion of "gender bending" so seeing pictures of women in pants isn't as uncommon. Not only that but these laws were basically excuses to keep people locked up after a raid for gatherings of LGBTQ+ people considering the fact that a group of people gathering for an event wasn't illegal but "cross dressing" was so if police decided they wanted to target queer folk, and they did, they could slap that charge on them as reasoning[Look up the Stonewall Riots and Marsha P. Johnson for your own research] . Even today many states are trying to ban Drag Queens specifically.

[@markoliver2877]

Leo being a blue haired boy voiced by a girl will never not be funny to me

[@WildArmACF]

to be fair, most young boys in cartoons are voiced by girls. From Bart simpson, to the rugrats, to even megaman (till like.. mm11)

[@iamcool544]

most cartoon boys are voiced by women

[@sabrinyahh]

@@iamcool544it’s just ironic because of how conservatives react to blue hair and gender identity stuff

[@WyntheRogue]

@@WildArmACF Let's not forget Ash Ketchum from Pokemon!

[@potetnamnbaknamn895]

@@sabrinyahh It isn't ironic at all, you just have brain rot and are incapable of separating your rent free in-skull-tenant from the realities of making cartoons. Characters have had blue hair in cartoons for decades.

[@perotekku]

Remember: Columbus wrote about how good the "quality" was of the native women, especially the "young" ones, and how they were in high demand by his men for their "services" Dude was literally inexcusable, even by his own era's morals.

[@jeffreygao3956]

So...a child sex trafficker. See? He's better at beating up cripples and children than fighting fellow warriors!

[@LFanimes333]

Wasn’t that normal during his time, tho? He’s just describing the sexual slave market. Like, considering slave trading was seen as normal by anyone but the slaves themselves, what’s the catch?

[@perotekku]

@@LFanimes333 Slavery was normalized, exploitation of indigenous peoples was as well. And while sexually exploiting slaves wasn't uncommon, it wasn't universal. And even when it was an open secret, such as in the American South, people didn't discuss it. Columbus openly bragged about it, about his brutality to the natives, and of preferring younger girls. There are contemporary accounts, people from the same era as him, who thought he was over the top and brutal, even by the standards of the days. I agree, to villainize someone like George Washington solely for owning slaves, like most of his peers, is dicey. However, Columbus, even by his time, was needlessly cruel and twisted. Which he openly admitted in writing.

[@LFanimes333]

@@perotekku I agree that Columbus was brutal, twisted and deemed as fucked up even back then. I know as much. That said, I imagine his cruelty back then was taken as “damn this guy is kinda too much”. Not the unhinged monster he’s seen as today. Those are different degrees of evil.

[@oats-v7f]

​@@LFanimes333 white people tolerated him, yes, but most native tribes had established ages of consent and women also had the ability to consent.

[@Rakshasa1986]

"it's not Columbus' fault he committed unspeakable atrocities, it was society's fault" - people who voted for the party of personal responsibility

[@schuylergeery-zink1923]

Yah pffft GOP isn’t fiscally responsible 😂 nor do they care about personal responsibility.

[@tenjenk]

The stupid thing about that is, even people at the time in europe, the elite class, were HORRIFIED and disgusted by his actions.

[@nyaccoon]

It's really weird to excuse slavery from the past when there are many record of people going "wow slavery is awful why are we doing this... oh yeah money"

[@GazingTrandoshan]

Literally , there was people back then fighting against it too , why do we have a holiday at all for a guy when the entire context makes zero sense to being a American holiday esp when people near him described the guy as literally evil

[@Ad3tr]

Weird they don’t apply this standard to how judgey the Bible is. They even say “some things are always bad.”

[@TheSpoonyCroy]

@@GazingTrandoshan In a backwards way, racism. The reason we have Columbus day is because it was pushed by Italians Americans who had just recently immigrated to North America around the late 1800s and early 1900s especially during the early 1900s. So it became a way to say that Italians had some hand in the founding of America so you guys shouldn't be dickheads to immigrants (Lets just ignore that Columbus was working for the Spanish court at that time). So it had a purpose at the time but basically the need is sort of gone.

[@Jose-Luis.Garnica-Sanchez]

And laziness. They put off the labor onto others to reap the benefits without doing much and it's slowly going full circle but in a less grotesque manner

[@Astrosk1er]

@@TheSpoonyCroyand now people just like getting a few discounts

[@ShadovvXero]

"In Europe, we draw the line at things like eating people" Europeans used to eat mummies

[@CollinMcLean]

Also there was a lot of cannibalism during the 30 years war a little over a century later... it was a very much a pressure of the circumstances but still

[@yomilala8929]

Personally I would argue that genocide is worse than cannibalism.

[@nyrodiana7251]

​@@yomilala8929 is not personal is literally a fact

[@tyrant-den884]

Yes, And they were super terrified of cannibalism too.

[@sad_doggo2504]

Finally, someone says it and it's not me.

[@jacquicreepingbear1708]

“We draw the line at cannibalism” There are literally several accounts of European settlers that were starving and instead of eating the food offered to them by natives, they ate each other.

[@superdavey97]

The dutch were even doing it back home in 1672

[@Sasquatch_Driver]

Don't forget the mummy eating

[@larozyo1]

They single out native Americans for things Europeans did too, it’s asinine

[@iaminevitable7221]

The Jamestown settlers literally killed and ate each other during the famine there are human remains that were found

[@user-unos111]

@@jacquicreepingbear1708 Pretty sure eating corpses when there is nothing more available is universal Also, the colonists had no idea then of what kind of foods were in the new continent so for all they knew the natives were trying to poison them. Not too far fetched considering there were some particularly dangerous tribes in the caribbean.

[@re.__.]

when i was younger, my mother used to turn on veggietales (because she was very christian) and i’ll be honest, younger me never even noticed the show *was* about religion. i really enjoy the show, even though i am atheist. it’s well done and it was a fun watch

[@spongecakes1986]

I also never realized it was about religion as a kid. I remember that one movie with the superheroes and I was just thinking "yeah vegetable superheroes!" Religious references went in one ear and out the other

[@katiemonroe1687]

"In the future humor will be randomly generated" was so ahead of its time.

[@re.__.]

@@spongecakes1986 i really just thought it was talking vegetables like "hell yeah idk who abraham is wasn't that a president"

[@corporatecapitalism]

Same, as an athiest veggie tales actually has substance and good moral values for kids

[@gdragonlord749]

Same

[@plucas1]

To paraphrase Hank Hill: "Can't you see you aren't making History better, you're just making Kid's Animation worse!"

[@jeepmega629]

@@plucas1 Hank Hill speaking the truth

[@timesnewlogan2032]

Hank Hill is what conservatives should aspire to be.

[@jmrabinez9254]

Did he really say that? Or what, mate? Huh?

[@timesnewlogan2032]

@@jmrabinez9254 I believe the original line was referring to Christian rock music.

[@Pan-demic]

@@timesnewlogan2032The one thing unifying them is that they’re both utter rubbish

[@Gamesux421]

I love the "how can you judge me from the past with your standards from the future?" WHEN THERE WAS PEOPLE IN THE PAST THAT KNEW IT WAS WRONG!

[@jeepmega629]

@@Gamesux421 It’s insane how flimsy their arguments are

[@HiddenDarkHM]

Also, how? Easily. When it comes to matters of basic morality and not being cruel and horrible to other human beings I can judge that QUITE easily. If you don't know it's wrong to beat and harm another human, if you don't know it's wrong to force yourself on a child, if you don't know it's wrong to starve and enslave others, I don't CARE what your "culture" is telling you, you are in fact MORALLY WRONG and I can judge you all I DAMN well please.

[@duval4925]

tell me who knew it was wrong? Columbuses crew? or the local's who practiced it

[@LoZLttp13]

​@@duval4925Whataboutism: the go-to argument for soulless ghouls.

[@reesf743]

​@@duval4925 All tribes suffered the same fate regardless of what relationships they had with each other or the states.

[@VoidHearted]

Fun fact. The Europeans did not draw the line at cannibalism, actually. There was a whole “mummy trade” where people would rob Egyptian tombs and would sell the mummies to rich people because they thought consuming them would make them live longer.

[@jeepmega629]

@@VoidHearted That would come centuries after the Colonization of the Americas but its still a good point because Europeans would still call the Natives savages even after all the mummy eating

[@trouty606]

It was a trip when I first found out that an old Futurama joke about Farnsworth upset Fry ate his alien mummy before he could was based on historical fact.

[@basicallyghostie7362]

Wilson jump scare.

[@weedongding]

Columbus: "Europeans draw the line at cannibalism!" The Dutch with a mouthful of their prime minister: "I'm sorry, what was that?"

[@psycher7]

​@@trouty606"He's teriyaki style!"

[@Starchild719]

I love reminding people that Queen Isabella, for all her faults, was HORRIFIED by the treatment of native people from the New World and made efforts to protect them.

[@justawilliamsfan]

yeah, mind you, QUEEN ISABELLA was horrified by this. we don't even need to start with how bad she treated her own citizens during the Spanish Inquisition, so it musta been REAL bad if even she was terrified.

[@IronLand-f3g]

@@justawilliamsfan Yeah, too bad.

[@Godzillahistoryfan34]

Unfortunately for her the fate of the people of the new world was already given the moment European diseases hit

[@handeggchan1057]

Fredrick Douglas once remarked after the execution of John Brown (the radical abolitionist who tries to start a violent slave insurrection and was executed for treason) "His zeal in the cause of freedom was infinitely superior to mine. Mine was a taper light, his was the burning sun. Mine was bounded by time, his stretched away to the silent shores of eternity. I could speak for the slave. John Brown could fight for the slave. I could live for the slave. John Brown could die for the slave." The only reason Douglas didn't join Brown on his raid was because he thought it wouldn't work. Painting him as some centrist is absurd.

[@Acro_YT]

Conservatives (and sometimes liberals) water down how radical some figures are in order to fit their agenda.

[@handeggchan1057]

@@Acro_YT yep, happens with MLK too. And Liberals do it just as much, just in a different way to paint figures as "non violent". Ironically, the far right is often more honest about these things when they try to paint MLK as a radical socialist, for example. To them that's bad, but in reality it makes hime even cooler.

[@NinjaIzak]

Thank you for posting this ❤

[@Korra228]

Based Brown and Douglas

[@pavelstaravoitau7106]

​@@Acro_YTliberals do it all the time too. They blatantly ignore that MLK Jr. was a socialist, they ignore that Mandela was doing terrorism (the based kind), and so on. All done to push the narrative of "see how nice and peaceful they were? If you want to change something, vote harder."

[@jeepmega629]

"Slavery wasn't bad because everyone was doing it" sounds like an argument that a kindergartener who got caught doing something stupid by the teacher would make"BUT EVERYONE ELSE WAS DOING IT!!"

[@RocketboyX]

We should officially name this the Jan6 defense.

[@PabloComixYT]

You know what they say: “Monkey See, Monkey Do”. Seriously, we need to stop copying others…

[@FilmFlam-8008]

That wasn’t the argument. The argument is a progressive movement in the past is still progressive, even if it looks bad today. Thats like saying the 3/5th person clause was not progressive. It was a step towards abolishment of slavery. That is absolutely something to praise. Just because the First U.S. president wasn’t a black, gay, transvestite doesn’t mean it wasn’t progressive for the time being

[@Vangluss]

@@FilmFlam-8008My blood is playing defense for PragerU propaganda for fucking free. I’m sure they are wealthy enough to cut you a check eventually.

[@mr.battledroid2195]

You can’t judge someone with a mindset stuck in the 16th century with the mindset of someone in the 21st century… I believe you don’t need to be Elon musk to comprehend this

[@eonia7667]

the idea of travelling to the past and being told by someone "dont judge me by your era standars" sounds like that someone KNOWS that what they do is bad

[@heinshaaine8153]

Do you assume that hte people who were on slave ships didnt think it was bad? @Justin-pe9cl See how it says ""edited"?

Not to mention that the argument is a excuse to not learn from the mistakes of the past.

[@headphonesaxolotl]

I think the argument is supposed to work the OTHER way, where you don't call a person bad for not supporting LGBT rights because they lived in the 1400s. Not where a fictional depiction of a person says that they weren't bad because they did something that was morally questionable even at the time they were actually alive.

[@fugyfruit]

It's especially bad if you look into the anti slavery movements of the past, a number of the abolitionists had very much modern views on how bad slavery was

[@AB0BA_69]

@@headphonesaxolotlBut slavery wasn't morally questionable back then because blacks were seen as less than human. Do you find it morally questionable that we make cows into "slaves" for milk?? I'm sure some nutter vegans do, but 99% of the population does not. Same thing was going on back then 😂

[@f4kef4ngs]

saying reagan "saved everyone's lives" when he literally did nothing about the aids epidemic in which thousands of people died is just insane

[@gagaplex]

It's PragerU. It's not ahistorical, it's antihistorical.

[@dhans9662]

"Crack? Me. AIDS? Me. Reaganomics? Heh, come on. I'm in the name"

[@donovanlocust1106]

​@dhans9662 nice Boondocks reference lol

[@ceezee12]

Thank you! I was coming here to specifically make that point. His outright neglect and contempt for people with AIDS where he did nothing to fund research or healthcare to combat the epidemic led to the deaths of thousands of people.

[@eatfrenchtoast]

Hey just because Reagan ruined the inner cities and middle class we got dozens of billionaires. Dozens!

[@scaper8]

"Thank you, Mr. Reagan. You saved everyone's lives and made them better at the same time." What?! I'm pretty sure Reagan fans don't think that about Reagan!

[@_Trillex_]

Y'all, don't respond to the bots. They just want attention.

[@_Trillex_]

@UTubeTroIIPoIiceNWO your opinion is isn't even an opinion. It's just an excuse.

[@robotic_chazzie]

@@_Trillex_ Theyre hilarious

[@soap9752]

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[@the_cursed_dude230]

​@UTubeTroIIPoIiceNWOnope

[@dangerousdays2052]

Don't forget, Columbus literally bragged in a letter to a friend about how went SA all the way on an 11-year-old native girl after using physical force to make her submit. 🤮🤮

[@gryficowa]

;-;

[@GreenGorgeousness]

Oh.

[@kappadarwin9476]

If we were to be realistic Layla and Leo would have most likely been sold off the moment they even spoke to Columbus. I think Columbus really disliked Anglophones.

[@jeepmega629]

@@dangerousdays2052 He was EDP if EDP decided to go colonize and stuff

[@playernotfound9489]

that was a long time ago. it would be more like half of the disgust as people then had low morrales. they would still judge him tho

[@monikorasort]

“Being taken as a slave is better than being killed, no?” Let it not be forgotten that some natives enslaved by Colombus and his men murdered their own infant children to save them from the Spaniards.

[@admiralAlfonso9001]

In the words of the Spanish: “With the help of God, we shall powerfully enter into your coun-try, and shall make war against you... and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church and of their highnesses; we shall take you and your wives and your children, and shall make slaves of them... and we shall take away your goods, and shall do you all the mischief and damage that we can ... and the deaths and losses which shall accrue from this are your fault and not that of their highnesses or ours.”

[@emmalyntanaka8239]

and if I remember correctly, would purposely cause massive fires, knowing they would die, just to harm his pursuits

[@kyzomario2639]

What in the world is your pfp

[@BanguptotheElephant]

@@kyzomario2639 I think it’s a Les-bee-an

[@AriSolMorningstar]

@@BanguptotheElephant I love that

[@AnamLiath]

I saw Veggie Tales exactly once and am still occasionally earwormed by "We are the grapes of wrath! We will not take a bath!"

[@littlemeow124]

The Christopher Columbus video falls apart when you consider that the Spanish government had to forcibly send Columbus back to Spain in chains and had his title as governor revoked as punishment for abusing and enslaving the natives not to mention how shocked the Spaniards were of his treatment of them according to written accounts at the time meaning that what Columbus did was bad even for his time. Also, just because other cultures were practicing slavery at the time doesn't excuse the fact that western countries like the US and Brazil still practiced and profited off it and it caused generational trauma that still affects the descendants of enslaved people even to this day

[@CollinMcLean]

It also ignores a few other major caveats. 1. Our main sources on a lot of these things are from colonialists who were looking from the outside in at a culture they were unfamiliar with meaning a lot of context is missing. Like Tacitus writing about the Germans. 2. It ignores the potential of historical negation by imperialist powers attempting to justify their actions, much like how Britain historically liked to make the Irish seem primitive to justify their colonization of Ireland. 3. It fails to discuss certain societal and economic differences. For instance, the trans atlantic slave trade was a large scale industry that targeted a specific group and slaves in the Western system were chattel a.k.a. property. Native slave systems were more like indentured servitude and anyone could find themselves in the system for whatever reason. Usually they were house servants acting as extra hands around an estate. 4. That a lot of these slave trades were done with the knowledge that one party had the negotiating tool of a cannon broadside...

[@JupiterLebre]

My man, im brazilian, they used to teach how america (its not a country its a continent), was discovered. Now, its more like “yeah, its existed before, but nothing like suicide natives who refused to be slaves, and killing most of the tribes to get their territory”. Really, there is still the “whitening” of the country, where the government invested in tourist from europe to come to brazil and make the people whiter, there is paints, documents, everything. Its sucks that Colombo is hold on high regard.

[@anamelchior7194]

Glad you mentioned Brazil, slavery was a huge issue here, we were the last country in America to ban it, and to this day the black population is living in poverty, mostly stuck in the favelas; yet a huge part of the population still believes that "racism doesn't exist here" bc we have a lot of mixed ethnicities and "it's not as aggressive as in places like the US" (which is a lie bc it is, in fact, aggressive here)

[@invaderhorizongreen8168]

@@anamelchior7194 Of the 12 million enslaved Africans brought to the New World, almost half-5.5 million people-were forcibly taken to Brazil as early as 1540 and until the 1860s.

[@shadowednight1600]

@@goldalien2016 We all agree slavery is a awful thing and that we can't treat people because of skin color, but you're right in that Critical Race Theory is just racism that is championed and we should not be allowing that at all

[@SmolBeanVivi]

"You're fighting Hitler? I know he's a big bad guy, but what did he do again?" That single sentence took me out. My brain was gone. My eyes were blooshot. My blood pressure...off the room.

[@sydneyslaughter7163]

Churchill was like “sit down, kid. We have much to discuss.”

[@jeffreygao3956]

Seize power, attack all his neighbors, kill off people he hated including but not limited to Jews, Roma, and LGBT people, degrade his own allies(He didn't see Italians as "true Aryans" and that upset Mussolini), and make boneheaded strategic decisions like fighting a two front war all I might add, motivated by petty spite. Oh, and he also wrote a stupid "book" and ruined the toothbrush mustache.

[@Swan_River_Cowboy]

⁠@@sydneyslaughter7163FDR: And make it double my time is nigh

[@Roadent1241]

I get you have to play dumb for the kids but....

[@presidentbutterpudding4025]

this is the official position of prageru. check the stuff they are into now. seems like they also don't know why he was a big bad guy

[@tonybippitykaye]

“Being taken as a slave is better than being killed, no?” Sure. I’m sure it was also better to just work in Auschwitz and stay alive than to be sent to the chambers; it doesn’t make it any less inhumane and horrifying.

[@CollinMcLean]

I am now scared for the possibility of them doing a video on Charles Trevelyan...

[@tultsi93]

@@CollinMcLean They'll never do that, since they're not Holocaust deniers.

[@luluzin5022]

It's such a made up dycotomy too. As if Colombus was FORCED to either do one or the other. Like he couldn't just... I dunno leave the native people alone?

[@mxjame546]

Would you a modern human get suck to the past and get enslave, chose to be slave or die? Yeah it quite obvious.

[@SpecialInterestShow]

Tbh I'm sure there were many who tried to commit suicide due to the conditions being so bad It's not like gassing was instant death, either...

[@anywaysoicursedher]

Mr Peabody and Sherman walked so leo and Leyla could trip fall and get stuck in a road hole

[@Patolagos]

Leo & Layla feels like watching a conservative man play with dolls in front of children to try and make them think exactly like him...

[@BadWebDiver]

Pretty much what it is, tbh...

[@lordnokia4222]

That is what it is.

[@God-King-Yhwach_The_Almighty]

Conservative radicals in a nutshell

[@Snailsnsialsnial._1]

Conservative man isnt playing with the dolls he's playing with the childreb

[@CartoDarko]

​@@Snailsnsialsnial._1 LMFAO

[@irafoo]

Leo has blue hair, weird because Conservatives always hate people with blue hair

[@DenpaHuman]

Just hope he doesnt have pronouns!

[@clarkharrell2227]

You just said "he"! It's too late 😭 ​@DenpaHuman

[@em5345-]

​@@clarkharrell2227 You said "it"! Oh, the humanity!

[@weregretohio7728]

Who don't they hate, though? Other than 1) Orange Calves and 2) Billionaires

[@urotaion9879]

@@weregretohio7728 I think religions that can be used to condone violence via interpretation is a good third on that list, if religions were people

[@LarryXLR]

Leo: Slavery and genocide is bad. Columbus: Only God can judge me. Leo: Oh yeah. Sorry. Thank you, sea daddy.

[@bluecoin3771]

Isn't that sky daddy? Unless we're talking about Poseidon.

[@dizzyheads]

Reminds me of a 4 panel skit where someone tried to say that and then God legit tells him he's a piece of shit lol

[@ReigoVassal]

Spain: Yeah, no. We will judge and trial you. Mad criminal.

[@dogf421]

columbus: only god can judge me colombus if two kids with weird hair colors spawned out of nowhere on his ship in the middle of the sea for real: oh my god are you guys angels?! dear god please forgive me! dont send me to hell! please, no! im sorry for everything ive ever done!

[@tultsi93]

​@@dogf421 Are you crazy? That reaction would've been too realistic.

[@queenofcookie3299]

Just wanted to mention that a lot of country’s have sayings along the lines of “better dead than a slave” like all for example the saying of my culture Northfrisia “Lewer duad üs Slaw!”. So yeah pretending like the general opinion is that being a slave is better then being dead is literally the complete opposite then what people actually think

[@redheadedstepchild2240]

I don't think the slaves were saying: "hey well it's the 1400s, it is what it is"

[@jdotoz]

For most of history, the prevailing attitude about slavery was something like "I wouldn't want to be a slave, but I'd be fine having slaves."

[@MrChickennugget360]

the cartoon is shit but the basic concept is good because in modern times there is a tendency to cherry pick history so only some people are "bad" fact is slavery was extremely common around the entire world in virtually every society with enough complexity to control captives and reduce them to slavery. It is EXTREAMLY common today to hear people say things like "white people invented slavery" or "the Greeks invented slavery" or "the Romans" invented racism. (i literally heard something to that effect- to which i responded some of the earliest written records were Sumerians talking shit about Sematic ammonites being filthy barbarians.)

[@SioxerNikita]

@@MrChickennugget360 People are absolutely terrible at understanding the nuances of morality over time. In a 100 years people could be looking at us and be like "They were all evil people, look, they even ate animals" or "They actually used money, that is an ethically wrong way to run a society". There will almost inevitably be in the future a society that will look at us as barbarians, and terrible. So if we should judge people on our morals, and call them evil for that, then we should call ourselves evil for just existing, because some in the future would call us evil. I'm even in a discussion with someone not really getting that slavery being thought of as evil, is a straight up modern concept (only really started taking effect during the industrialization, when slaves were quite literally economically unviable to have), and others arguing that everyone would rather die than be slaves (Which... well... history would literally argue against that, since... if people rather die than be slaves, then holding slaves would be straight up impossible). Especially the bad one is "Whites invented slavery", it is... not even a "Whitecentric" view, it is an Americacentric view. Even the African slave trade happened towards the East for far longer.

[@woaddragon]

@@jdotoz true, but that does make it right. After all the Pipes of the time sent Papal Bull against enslavers

[@jdotoz]

@@woaddragon No, I agree. The point is that if you weren't a slave, you were probably fine with slavery, and if you were a slave, your objection was more likely to be that it was happening to you than it was happening at all.

[@Logans_Login]

Two semesters ago one of my Professors showed the Columbus episode in class to demonstrate historical disinformation. It was a difficult watch for sure

[@magdalenomartinezjr8805]

I remember having a similar experience, but with a biology class featuring a PETA video instead

[@TheReaperofHades]

The one time PragerU has some use xD a lesson on how to critically take apart misinformation.

[@WaxMeber]

Your professor was a reactionary freak

[@shovknight3008]

@@WaxMeberNo he was just educated. Something that conservatives hate

[@WaxMeber]

@@shovknight3008 No, he was a reactionary freak, like I said. Columbus should be celebrated as a world-historical figure, the discover of the Americas by Europeans is a world-historical event. Columbus was historically progressive. Sorry, read Engels, read Hegel, read Marx. That is, if you can read, which is doubtful. Go watch cartoons or whatever it is that you "people" do.

[@dogf421]

this video taught me that colombus is literally a one piece villain and luffy would definitely punch him in the face

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

Do we have a Columbus equivalent in O e Piece right now?

[@alexstever2671]

I mean there was Orlumbus in Dressrosa​@@manuelalbertoromero9528

[@zachary61145]

I need this animated like right now

[@sydneyslaughter7163]

What I wouldn’t do to see that

[@klavierjustice4911]

@@manuelalbertoromero9528I didn’t read too much but the fish men come to mind. Similar tyranny.

[@Voxivus]

Colombus looks like a damn oompa-loompa

[@GooseonthyInternet]

Tbh he looks like the oompa-loompa cheif

[@tiruliru1189]

You mean the oompa-loompas from Willy Wonka?

[@anotherfatnerd8040]

Queen Isabella was like "no slaves". Columbus literally looked at my ancestors, the Taino, wearing gold jewelry and decided to find ANY reason to kidnap, rape and murder them.

[@kaazimsheikh9034]

Yes Columbus was the devil himself. It's so utterly disgusting to see people depict him in a positive light. Hell, even in a neutral light. I had no idea conservatives just.... Thought all the shit he did was okay 🤮🤮

[@flyingstonemon3564]

Guy was so terrible that when the priests tried baptizing natives to make them fall under the laws for Christians so they wouldn't be under laws for heathens and would be protected from slavery and other things Columbus loved to do, Columbus would literally complain about It and try to prevent them from literally saving them, not from hell in the afterlife but from hell with him on Earth. No wonder the Spanish crown learning about any of the things he did would bring him back by force in chains. He also had views on girls and women that even his patron countries didn't have.

[@Jamlord2061]

does someone need a reason to enjoy themselves 🤮

[@geardestroy]

You realize that also makes you descendant of spanish?

[@josephschultz3301]

@@geardestroy You do realize that's not a gotcha, right? He's descended from the enslaved as well as the slavers, but guess what? He's not a current slaver, _because fucking duh._ Edit Reason: Additional punctuation required.

[@HEADLESSKROGAN]

It's all fun and games until your time travel app accidentally sends you to Hiroshima on August 6 1945

[@johnny_boi5456]

oof

[@КалинаТодорова-э9б]

Gojira.

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

Say goodbye. 💀

[@imaginationmaddness2176]

GOLLY GEE the anolocay ended ww2!

[@Legendary_Logan]

“Layla, did the phone just die?”

[@ruened]

German here, I always find it funny how much the US likes to attribute the fall of the Berlin Wall to Reagan, thinking we must regard him as our savior or something. When in truth, the only American we ever commonly (jokingly) credit for tearing down the wall is David Hasselhoff.

[@yomilala8929]

American conservatives are extremely arrogant. They think the whole world revolves around them.

[@philipphalter926]

genau. und nicht mal das stimmt

[@MisterMelange]

You guys literally re-write history to ignore all the shit Communists did in your country. Who cares what German think.

[@kitkatboard]

Yeah, I was not taught American propaganda so I was like "... how did Reagan take down the Berlin wall ? That was german citizens !"

[@dr_popcorn]

Wait, why David Hasselhoff? That's so strange lol

[@sirkarl0s593]

My favourite episode is the one where the kids travel back 200 million years into the past and Leo is eaten by a veloceraptor.

[@spongecakes1986]

Layla is really upset at first but then a random T-Rex shows up and says "it's normal for the time" before eating the raptor right in front of her

[@kernowpictures2002]

Velociraptor lived during the Cretaceous 75mya

[@boombox05]

The target audience thinks the earth is only 6000 years old so probably wouldn’t work

[@jeffreygao3956]

200mya with Velociraptor?! Try Dilophosaurus!

[@Xenephos]

@@jeffreygao3956 The scene with Nedry from the Jurassic Park novel, except with Leo instead 💀

[@selenawolf2466]

Layla's in pants, and Leo has blue hair... that alone should have then runnkng for thier lives in most places they time travel to

[@Legendary_Logan]

Plus Columbus would’ve cut Layla’s tongue out 💀

[@Brendanowl]

They would have been called witches and have an angry mob after them.

[@Itcouldbebunnies]

​@@Legendary_Logan That's not all Columbus would've done to a girl her age...

[@fermintenava5911]

No, it's okay - see, they wear the flag on their chests.

[@sudanemamimikiki1527]

Dyed hair wasn't actually that uncommon in the past

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Just for a historical reference Columbis's slavery was so bad he was arrested by spain cause the pope and the clergy demanded his pilaging be stopped. So yes we can judge you by our time since the catholic church in that time literally had to forbid slavery of indigenous peoples in south america by papal order It was called the Sublimus Dei (1537)

[@Peasham]

It's true

[@ORBITingAroundYou]

In short, even if we judge him just for his time standards, he would still be bad

[@smalltime0]

It wasn't even the after the fact bit. When Columbus reported back after finding the new world (to gather shit for the next expedition) Queen Isabella outright forbade him from taking slaves (other than POWs which is temporary).

[@user-unos111]

@@mckenzie.latham91 Did he really enslave the locals? From what I heard the reason he was arrested was because of his atrocious management of the colonies, which included constant conflicts against his supossed subordinates

[@thunderflare59]

Literally spanked by His Excellency the Pope.

[@anonymousperson32]

"Don't like your kids watching propaganda? Here, try this other propaganda!"

[@Salikino]

Conservative “kids” media in a nutshell

[@yoursonisold8743]

PragerU wasnt satisfied with indoctrinating college age people anymore, now they indoctrinate your children directly.

[@Juicedbelmont]

As much I hate them,I have to hand it to them,ita pretty smart Convince parents that their is leftist propaganda that doesn't exist to scare them into showing their kid YOUR conservative propaganda Rare moment of conservative intelligence

[@TristanTodd-kk9um]

​@@Salikino"""""""" kids""""""""""""

[@Salikino]

@@TristanTodd-kk9um It’s absolutely for the parents.

[@thunderflare59]

"How can you judge me by the standards of the 20th century?" Chris, you were sentenced to prison in the 15th century.

[@jeffreygao3956]

Not even the nice one!

[@crystallakedood]

I love how that PragerU ad basically says "we're letting the tablet raise our kids, and we're mad about what they see! We're not going to do any parenting... but everyone else is the problem!"

[@Vox-Multis]

Yeah, heaven forbid they actually have a discussion with their child.

[@VenomSnake00]

THIS! This whole fake morality panic of what kids should and shouldn’t watch wouldn’t even be a problem if they actually engaged with their children, instead of just handing them the iPad.

[@connorhart7597]

​@Vox-Multis maybe it's for the best if watching bluey and little Einsteins is the alternative to being indoctrinated with hate lmao

[@princessCashel]

These people are the ones who are supposed to be about keeping traditions alive. Apparently, it's not a tradition to actually engage with the child and to have an actual discussion with them.

[@unnamedenemy9]

even worse, it's "the tablet isn't indoctrinating my child into believing the things I tell them to believe!"

[@reneemachuca3026]

Bro Columbus sounds like every KZbinr apology video But like 1000000000 times worse

[@yomilala8929]

If Columbus had lived in our era he would be an influencer who does awful things for fame and money and then delivers pathetic apology videos.

[@elbolainas4174]

Did he pulled out the ukelele?

[@bealea1127]

IN MY LAPSE OF JUDGEMENT

[@imthebossmermaid3648]

@@yomilala8929 He'd be the person who culturally appropriates from non-white cultures and then when people call him out he says "but cultures don't belong to certain people".

[@reneemachuca3026]

@@yomilala8929basically every kick streamer in a nutshell

[@entertainmentpowerfuchs5744]

The funny thing is PragerU the company who maked Leo & Layla is a million dollar company and the animation is still on a level with Dingo Pictures.

[@ythegamerita]

Don't insult dingo pictures, at least they aren't saying that slavery is a good thing

[@artsyscrub3226]

@@ythegamerita Yeah and it was probably some kids they asked to help them we can't be mean to the kids

[@AD-tj4jc]

​@ythegameritaisthebest Dingo pictures is based in Germany, so you can get why they would never go there.

[@ootmaster1]

@@entertainmentpowerfuchs5744 "maked" Lol Lmao

[@starleaf-luna]

don't insult Dingo like this!, =(

[@ShadowyKatz]

Okay so it's wrong to impose our modern standards on another culture because it was a different time, but it was fine for that culture to impose its standards on other people? Gotcha.

[@retroinspect]

The fact they give the Italian Columbus a Spanish accent should tell you all you need to know about the immense ignorance behind this production.

[@berberrb-3754]

A common misconception since he asked for help to Isabella I from Spain

[@lupuslobosolitario9402]

And also a very bad Spanish accent since the tone with he speaks is more typical of Latin America than Spain

[@berberrb-3754]

@@lupuslobosolitario9402 I would not be surprised if PragerU thought he was Mexican

[@retroinspect]

@@berberrb-3754 Right because they're so dumb they see "Columbus sailed for the Spanish" and give him this Desi Arnaz accent.

[@joshuaa7266]

@@berberrb-3754 I doubt it, they probably just didn't consider that accents/dialects exist outside the English language.

[@jamielamie2229]

Columbus was buried in chains for the monster he was. they knew how bad he was and he was genuinely insane

[@19spacecats]

Dang, I didn’t know about the burial in chains. Makes him sound like a Dark Souls encounter, “Columbus the Enslaver”, imprisoned in chains as divine punishment for his sins.

[@WorshipperOfKhone]

@@19spacecats New boss fight idea

[@VRiderB]

​@@19spacecats That's a really cool idea. Could be a souls-like with a bit of Assassin's Creed history romping

[@skoop651]

You are lying to yourself if you say that Western society and culture didn't benefit many people. Without it, there would still be tribes killing each other and never making any actual progress. Cities? nah. The many benefits of technology? nah. Advancements in medicine? nah. Without the West, every non-Western country except maybe China and Japan would be at the absolute best in Medieval days. It's an objective fact. It's not like they all would have progressed at the same speed.

[@ashesandposies]

@@19spacecats Columbus was the one who asked to be buried in chains probably to make a point at how bad he was treated

[@davwad3]

I felt physical pain hearing that $3 budget animated kid say "thank you Mr. reagan"

[@davwad3]

and hearing "what did hitler do again" was straight torture. I think my heart stopped for just a moment when I heard that.

[@hakai1014]

⁠@@davwad3The fact that Layla is a teen with a time-traveling phone, brought Leo to various historic events and figures, and knows who Churchill is. BUT SHE DOESNT KNOW WHAT HITLER DID AND WHY CHURCHILL WAS FIGHTING HITLER

[@CaptainDoomsday]

@@davwad3 There was a real moment where I wondered if they were going to defend Hitler. Columbus is enough of a precedent that I really didn't put it past them.

[@ScaryFoot]

Watch prager U try to justify operation paperclip, watch.

[@catwithapaperhat8614]

"You're welcome Leo" has the same energy as "Hello Mario"

[@whatifkarlmarxbutbad3660]

I can't believe I didn't guess immediately that this would be Dennis Prager's progeny. He's practically the only person in the world who wants to die on this specific, Columbus-shaped hill.

[@jeffreygao3956]

Micheal Knowles too.

[@16Nire61]

Partway through the Columbus episode overview, I kept hearing this weird squelchy noise. Finally I looked over and found my brain crawling across the floor and trying to escape the idiocy.

[@squirlis1189]

Lmaoooo

[@the-answer-is-42]

Yeah, you better cage that thing if you want to watch this series. Otherwise, it will keep crawling out of your ears, which is rather inconvenient.

[@yellohammer8571]

Yes. I'm assuming it was because you were fed up of Columbus not being fazed by his enslavement of Indigenous Americans, his gloating of having discovered America... some FOUR HUNDRED years AFTER Leif Erikson and his father Erik the Red visited it, and long before the Puritans from Plymouth founded New England.

[@BeyondBaito]

Reminder that Columbus also mutilated Europeans who wanted to establish relationships with natives. Literally cutting the hands off of people as punishment for wanting to show peace.

[@dylans.1741]

Although the term didn't exist at the time, Columbus was effectively history's first known alt rightist. If he were alive today, he'd be virulently pro Trump, and he probably would have stormed the Capitol too.

[@kingbeef66]

Yeah, the Prager U propaganda cartoon justifies slavery with Columbus as being better than being dead.

[@jinx_c]

what’s with this guy and hands

[@oscaranderson5719]

@@jinx_c Hema brainrot, I assume

[@dylans.1741]

@@jinx_c It was so that his victims would have a permanent reminder of their encounter. Columbus wanted to live on in their memories, which just goes to show how purely demonic he was

[@PaoloNovaro]

When talking about well-executed religious animation The Prince of Egypt is the GOAT. Every single person I've met that has watched it regards it as a masterpiece, independently of their personal beliefs.

[@223Drone]

Because at the end of the day it was made as a good film first and foremost.

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

I'm not a christian, and I kind of wish there were more films of its caliber based on the bible. I bet there are a bunch of stories that could have been made into epics

[@Orsonfoe]

cause Dream Works worked to make a good film and put in effort. so anyone can enjoy it as a movie regardless of religious beliefs. prager U like most religious cash grabs wants to preach at you and talk at you like you're an idiot. it's like Pureflix, you're only going to enjoy it if you are the nitch target audience.

[@geardestroy]

That movie help me become an atheist and realize that the abrahamic god is a bipolar tyrant

[@Purple._.Cheese]

That was my favorite movie as a kid

[@tlspark8250]

"These weird and terrible things that happened back then occurred because it was considered normal" Is a fine lesson to teach kids because frankly you can apply that logic to damn near most of human history. To have CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS of all people try to teach it? And even have him claim innocence at the same time? That is... certainly a decision

[@TrueBladeSoul]

Yeah he was considered cruel and evil in his own time like he’s the worst choice for that kind of lesson

[@DisneyWizardYensid]

Columbus: You can’t judge me by the standards of your time. Me: Okay, let’s judge you by the standards of YOURS. You were excommunicated by the Catholic Church for your excessive cruelty. The fucking Spanish Inquisition said “Woah man…too far.”

[@johnny_boi5456]

Even the Spanish Inquisition thought he went too far…

[@weatherman1504]

Woah, I didn't expect the Spanish Inquistion to do that.

[@johnny_boi5456]

@@weatherman1504 lmao true

[@mewsingsbynatk]

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition. That’s their chief weapon!

[@jeffreygao3956]

Nobody also expects that the Spanish Inquistion was not medieval in the slightest, gave the accuser the burden of proof, and killed only a few dozen people across ~350 years of its tenure. Sure, that should still be 0 but the Inquisition looks positively quaint compared to Protestant witch hunts.

[@emmagrove6491]

Columbus: "Judging me by today's standards is estupido." No, you were a monster even back then.

[@RocketboyX]

Yeah, it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to understand empathy.

[@TheRavenLord1]

Indeed, even when the very crew was saying you were awful.

[@Vangluss]

You know you’re dealing with a true monster of a historical figure when the historical figure in question gets a warrant put out for their arrest for doing settler colonialism too hard

[@artsyscrub3226]

@@Vangluss When britan says "hey maybe you shouldn't" you know you fucked up

[@collaterale1]

That Colombus episode makes The Magic Voyage look like freaking Beauty and the Beast by comparison.

[@XxShadow101xX]

My girlfriend theorized that there are no credits because this whole show is written, animated, voiced, and produced by AI 💀

[@o0bookwyrmknight0o]

It was made a little bit earlier before AI art became a thing but yeah I wouldn’t be surprised. 😂

[@magdalenomartinezjr8805]

It wouldnt have been too innacurate if it where made today

[@a84jdu3uc7d]

well it looks like it

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

That's an insult to AI.

[@LIGHTERstudioANIMATOR]

​@@BioGoji-zm5ph lol even ai is better than this

[@weirdogirl1275]

Imagine like an adult parody of these episodes, family guy style, where they still travel back in time and learn some cool stuff about important historical figures, but someone, maybe Peter, points out some outrageously bad stuff that particular person did too. Whole set goes quiet. Super awkward. Then the guy tries to defend himself, but in that obviously not gonna work kinda way, because Peter keeps pointing out that that’s not true or whatever in response every time the guy tries to argue, and it devolves into peter and the guy having a screaming match on set about something totally unrelated and probably slanderous to the other person.

[@jimmyguitar2933]

Sounds more like a job for Brian. Actually, didn't Stewie & Brian do a few of these, but with less agitprop?

[@MaxWeb2599]

Call me oldschool but When I have the option to show my kids either PragerU or skibidi toilet, I choose to throw my tablet out the window and play some games with them.

[@ba6tatz]

prageru makes skibidi toilet look like a masterpiece

[@reduxgamingyt1176]

Man choose the third option

[@jeepmega629]

@@MaxWeb2599 Honestly I would choose Skibidi Toilet, because at least its surreal and not racist/historically ignorant

[@jmrabinez9254]

Huh? Why are you saying this confusing stuff? I don't understand. Are you a conservative? Just asking, mate.

[@Alex_Barbosa]

Skibidi Toilet isn't that bad cmon lol

[@nicestpancake]

Ngl, if my kid turned to me during dinner and said "Dad, did you know America is racist?" I'd probably be too busy laughing to answer

[@pommybomber]

I'd go "have you been sleeping in class?"

[@Brendanowl]

The funny thing is, the way the show is written, the creators of the show seem racist.

[@nicestpancake]

@@Brendanowl oh no it's made by PragerU. Everyone there is racist and the POC who work for them are only doing so because they're being paid really well to be a diversity hire to make them _look_ not racist. (Semi-Ironically, the exact behaviour they'd accuse the left of doing.) Like seriously watch any of their videos they are all so out of touch.

[@ChrisPierce-y1r]

@@nicestpancake america is one of the first countries to do away with slavery and make it ilegal

[@giwake]

​@@ChrisPierce-y1r no, that's not even close at all. there's so many other countries that abolished slavery and the slave trade before the united states, america literally had a civil war because people wanted to keep slaves.

[@justopher8487]

Cant wait for the episode when Leo’s like “people on the internet are saying that gay people deserve rights😭😭😭”

[@jeffreygao3956]

Amity Blight: Leo! Stay away from my Luz!

[@zomzomino]

And then they meet like... a cop from the stonewall riots and he's like "Guys, they committed a crime by being gay! I had the right to arrest them!"

[@Cpt.Stickerno0dle-iu3ok]

They time travel to Adam and Eve and they’re like “we’re straight and there’s no Steve so gay people shouldn’t even be real”

[@BrandEver117]

"Leo! Let's use my time phone to go to 1978 and visit Supervisor Dan White, an honorable and good man! He'll help us sort this out!"

[@spongecakes1986]

Goes to Ancient Greece in the next episode with no trace of irony

[@sarcasticat6979]

I'm surprised there's a Neil Armstrong episode, considering how many conservatives think the moon landing was faked...

[@realteamwall]

misinformation

[@mrmoment6061]

​@@V0119x2What would you recommend?

[@justawilliamsfan]

literally how do you even get there. CGI was so ass in the 60s to the point where Tron, almost 20 years later, was *futuristic.*

[@jeffreygao3956]

Many or just the famous ones? Why didn't the Soviets expose the Americans as liars if it was faked?

[@heyo80]

Eh I disagree. I know a lot of conservatives in real life and very very few fringe (I know like only one of them) doesn’t believe in the moon landing. But yeah conservative ideas are hit and miss being good imo.

[@xxcrayon.eater_]

As someone who is half Puerto Rican and half Native America, I really cant understand why people defend Christopher Columbus. I was forced to learn positive things about him growing up despite it long being known he was a disgusting person and I am happy my family taught me the truth at a young age. They also had me refuse to do any work praising Christopher Columbus

[@SodaPopBarbecue]

Because a lot of Italian-American immigrants were getting persecuted in the early 20th century, and wanted something to get a shield from xenophobia. The Knights of Columbus was thus formed, with early 20th century dark money behind them. Columbus was lionized via corruption, bribery and propaganda so that Italian-Americans could get ahead of other immigrants when it came to social acceptance. You may blame Italian-Americans for your suffering in that regard.

[@UnrealMisterD]

Take everything I say here with a grain of salt, because it was years ago I heard this, but the story goes that when Italian immigrants first came to the US they were treated pretty shitty. So someone used a "biography" of Columbus written by the same dude who wrote Sleepy Hollow (and left out a bunch of the worst facts about him and painted him as this genius no one understood in his time) and used it to say "Hey, an Italian found this country! You wouldn't even be here if it weren't for us." Basically using bad propaganda to counter racism. Which is....a thing.

[@YoshiCh1ef-je6me]

Same thing for me with Henry Ford. Not too long ago, I went to the Henry Ford Museum, and while he did have some tremendous accomplishments, there was nothing about how awfully he treated his son.

[@weregretohio7728]

They do it because it's a shortcut to their hatred for others. Racism, for instance, hidden behind a pretense of preserving history. They think they're fooling people. It's all for their own benefit, because Gaslight, Obstruct, Project.

[@Hinokassaudifan1]

i think they're trying to salvage whatever is left of their "history". which is ironic.

[@JuniperJadePR]

Prager Colombus: "In Europe, we draw the line at cannibalism & human sacrifice." YOU SURE ABOUT THAT BRO?!

[@HalfBound-c9x]

🇳🇱🤭

[@jeffreygao3956]

Gauls: Are we jokes to you?!

[@SeanMatheson-n3x]

Best comment I've ever heard was "Why do Conservative cartoons always seem like parodies of Conservative cartoons." It's like there is no self awareness in these creators.

[@raysay1818]

No one can make conservative satire quite like conservatives. They say the craziest stuff with the most genuine attitude that any attempt of parody of their ways would be seen as over the top or outright unbelievable. But it just goes to show that reality is sometimes more absurd than fantasy.

[@WyntheRogue]

Makes since since most of em are out of touch boomers who live in Delulu land. :P

[@Literallyryangosling777]

This just happend with almost all extreme political cartoons, like velma,

[@kv_of_the_ground4453]

​@@Literallyryangosling777well tbf no one likes velma, left or right

[@smallxplosion9546]

It’s just political cartoons in general, nobody likes them, because forcing political messages down everyone’s throats doesn’t really make for an entertaining cartoon

[@MisterJohnDoe]

"Your child is being filled with lies!" "CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS WAS MISUNDERSTOOD"

[@jeffreygao3956]

Except the lie IS that Columbus is misunderstood. He’s just plain cruel.

[@MisterJohnDoe]

@jeffreygao3956 Thanks, captain obvious.

[@deannaabeyta1855]

the magic treehouse walked so prageru could become a quadruple amputee

[@exor_ist_ein_mensch]

at least the quadruple amputee can think, smell, taste, see, hear, touch and has life in them prageru is just a lifeless husk still trying to life in a world that it doesn't belong to and in the process sacrificing every human aspect that could have been in it, for pride to ideals that have no merit in a functional society

[@NoahGooder]

childhood memory unlocked, i completely forgot those books existed.

[@jeffreygao3956]

@@NoahGooder How about the anime film?

[@NoahGooder]

@@jeffreygao3956 i had no clue they made a film.

[@1WEareBUFO1]

Always makes me think more of Liberty's kids.

[@EagleStarLine]

"Erm, who is hitler?!?!? What did he do?!?!?!" But then she's like "Christopher Colombia scratched his neck at 4:35 am on the 23rd of February"

[@gremlinwc8996]

Funny how they decide when it was and wasnt ok for genocide. Columbus era? No problem, society thought it was fine. Ww2? Awful, even though it was supported by the societies of the axis powers, most countries they conquered, and even by many people in allied countries. Like if we're going by "what society thought was moral", the majority of european society, especially with eastern europe and with large portions of western society, all supported the genocide.

[@Firestorm214]

The way she said it just irks me.😂

[@jeffreygao3956]

What Hitler did?! He tried to exterminate anyone he hated, ran Germany to the ground, kept waging war on his neighbors, made pseudoscientific laws establishing "tiers of different races", poorly treated his allies, and wrote a lousy pile of paper he dares call a book.

[@roarinfireball]

PragerU Kids SpongeBob: If we keep stretching the truth, we’ll be fancy living in no time. Patrick: Hooray for lying!!!

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Fancy living here we come. La La La La.

[@roarinfireball]

@@dalekrenegade2596 Dennis Prager is definitely having a good gaze at the donation funds tonight.

[@tonybippitykaye]

@@roarinfireball Squidward: People talk loud when they wanna act smart, right? Dennis Prager: CORRECT!

[@ashley2319x]

You just described the demokkkrats

[@nono-yw3tv]

@@tonybippitykaye Yet the only people talking loud and making fallacious arguments here are you guys.

[@_Uno_Cinco_]

They have more emotion in the cover picture than the entire show 😭😭😭😭😭

[@spongecakes1986]

The frowns are literally just upside down smiles and it bothers me so much

[@StoryBird2]

22:40 "Draw the line at cannibalism" are they ignoring that Indigenous tribes are all very different and many have specific rules against cannibalism ???? Calling someone Indigenous/Indian/Native is like calling someone "Asian" it's an umbrella term

[@JonathanSicoli]

Yes, and yes. Racists gonna racism.

[@KaliqueClawthorne]

Also the people that were eaten or sacrificed were either people wanting to do it or war criminals (as I know)

[@kloa4219]

Additionally colonizers went to steal gold from natives, not save them from cannibalism. Nothing Christ-like about stealing, but they did so anyway under a genocidal pretext.

[@-VoDkAsVengeance-]

They're also forgetting that the Victorian elite (Europeans) would have "Mummy Unwrapping Parties" in which they would unwrap and eat mummies because they believed the mummified flesh had health benefits & medicinal effects.

[@alejandromonteroborbon5696]

Not to mention the MUMMIA CRAZE was happening where he was from

[@Biplapardingus]

"You from the future? Either that or indians? I've kinda had a hard time telling who's what lately" I like how this implies that time traveling is indeed a common occurrence in the Leo and Layla universe

[@FoxMoon89]

It also weirdly paints Columbus as either unbelievably stupid or just as racist as we thought? Because he has to be one or both of those to claim he can't tell the difference between a Native American person and literally any person in modern-day clothing.

[@ego-lay_atman-bay]

Judging by the fact that layla had an app on her phone to travel back in time, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone else had that app, and went back in time to mess with the past.

[@alexjewett7455]

There's apparently an app for it, so I guess it makes sense.

[@Legendary_Logan]

*phone dies* “Leo, we’re screwed.”

[@michellemarty7510]

Prager U Columbus: Some things are bad no matter when they happen, but slavery isn't one of them. For slavery you have to take into account the culture at the time. Any sane human: Bro, what????

[@Sandman2007]

It was horrible. We know this now of course. Buy it WAS practiced worldwide at the time, and is still going on today. Still fighting slavery today.

[@lich109]

​@@Sandman2007 It was horrible at the time too, you act as if plenty of people weren't opposed to it then and that Columbus wasn't hauled off in chains thanks to how awful he was.

[@Sandman2007]

@lich109 did I Columbus wasn't a dick? No. Quit assuming things about me. I'm not even a conservative. I was just saying that slavery existed for thousands of years previously, usually as spoils of war. Of course it bad. Any half brained dope knows that.

[@michellemarty7510]

@@Sandman2007 So if it is still going on today doesn't that negate the point of not judging by our standards today? Are you really this dense?

[@Sandman2007]

@@michellemarty7510 judging the past by the context of today is different than just judging the current conflicts of today. It sounds like you dwell in the past while turning a blind eye to the woes of today. You've chosen the easier path.

[@gibberishname]

FYI The Alamo was ALSO BAD. The white Texians were fighting the Mexicans because Mexico outlawed slavery.

[@woaddragon]

Some of them. The Mexicans who live in Texas for decades just did not like Santa Anna.

[@gibberishname]

@@woaddragon this is a "states rights" style myth. They didn't like the abolition of slavery.

[@jimmyguitar2933]

Yep

[@CuckHunt]

Yes, that is the only reason and that was also the reason for the several other mass rebellions in disparate parts of the territory of Mexico during Santa Anna's regime.

[@mateusgreenwood1096]

​@@woaddragonto even suggest that mexicans were allowed to fight along americans back then 😂

[@Apoc2K]

Conservatives: "Damn those liberals making everything political' Conservative cartoon: Literally going back to the 80s so they can thank Reagan for being the greatest president.

[@MrChickennugget360]

this is not the same. Leftwing people are making normal entertainment political. This cartoon is literally nothing but political propaganda.

[@SWANSWAN-nc7ds]

I am pretty sure Reagan would hate modern conservative because just how whinny they are

[@mrsillytacos]

@@SWANSWAN-nc7ds also Reagan I believe was pro immigration, and his VP was for gay marriage and abortion. Huh.

[@JacobJohnsen-nu7nl]

​@@SWANSWAN-nc7ds I think people from both sides are whiney. Especially Twitter users

[@beastalchemistVA]

​@@JacobJohnsen-nu7nlthere's that bothsidism bs

[@AriSolMorningstar]

"Oh europeans wouldnt sacrifice innocents to please their gods" What about the witches, what about all those burned at the stakes by the inquisitions

[@user-unos111]

Those whose supossed to be punishments, not appeasing God. And even then, most heresy crimes didn't end up in death.

[@yunochiii]

@@user-unos111no it also was meant to appease god. The Crusades were in the name of God, religious leaders believed it to be a holy calling. The people who partook in the Crusades believed that they were pleasing god by destroying the nonbelievers. At its core; The Crusades were a religiously ethnic cleanse

[@mickymcbryan4814]

@@user-unos111…so, Jewish people are those who are supposed to be punished. And also, female doctors and female midwives? because they made up a large number of the women burned at the stake.

[@kratal122]

Zeus didn’t want blood sacrifices, he wanted living women.

[@kendallmonge649]

@@user-unos111 I don't think they were executing witches as a punishment to the witches. I think witches were executed because witchcraft was in violation of their era's Christian standards; witchcraft was seen as an affront to God, and they thought executing witches would purify their colonial societies. So in a way, I think they were doing it to please God.

[@Marco_Onyxheart]

When did Christopher Columbus become Spanish? He was Italian!

[@KraziAnnRKissed]

I'm very confused by this. I'm half Sicilian, I have no idea where this guy was from anymore. I just never thought he was a good person, no matter where he was from.

[@Scenario_animations]

People confuse the fact he got support from Spain with him actually being from spain

[@terranceaddison4599]

According to furio from the sopranos..he was from Genoa

[@GazingTrandoshan]

@@Scenario_animations Whole holiday truly is based on people being stupid about history lol

[@lastchanc3stars]

I have a hunch they did that on purpose to excuse Columbus's racism, but because they are PragerU, they forgot that anyone can be racist.

[@Cooldude112233445570]

15:05 Wait a fucking minute... This phone-charging shoe idea is familiar. Feels obscure, but there was an old manga-styled comic called "The Adventures of Johnny Bunko" that had this same concept presented. I'm sure it was an idea thought up before that book was out in 2008, but still... What a weird coincidence.

[@PurpleGuy661]

Interesting to know

[@shiethegal]

As a kid, I don't remember giving a sh!t about Columbus, I just liked getting the day off of school when Columbus day came around.

[@kiwi_bird]

Same

[@dayzsaclark7543]

Same here. :/

[@NoahGooder]

same, i just saw it as a day off.

[@jeffreygao3956]

I used to like Columbus and then started hating his guts.

[@Sonicfan-cc1te]

I get that day off too but it’s for Thanksgiving not Columbus Day.

[@CodeNameX001]

PragerU talks about slavery in the same way 90s kids talk about the Macarena.

[@d.b.4671]

Speaking as a 90s kid: the Macarena was overrated and the craze around it was dumb.

[@daniellewillis2767]

The Macerena = original earworm

[@flyingstonemon3564]

​@@d.b.4671 Still played to this day in parties though! Dance was easy to do and song was catchy hehe

[@BlaizeTheDragon]

​@@d.b.4671songs that make the white people go crazy

[@d.b.4671]

@@flyingstonemon3564 - I always preferred the Train (which also made a comeback somehow). Probably even more overrated, but damn it all, if it wasn't catchy as hell.

[@theprimegamer7086]

i love how they go "hey dont judge the old world by new world standards" but like.. the whole point of going "well this is actually morally wrong and we shouldnt do it" mean its always been morally wrong and we should never have done it

[@WaxMeber]

bourgeois morality is not transhistorical

[@aleanddragonITA]

Exactly, the reason Morality changed is because someone said something was bad and beaten those that said it wasn't But the truth is that these People says something today we see as bad in the past was 'good' because it makes the idea that it could return becoming 'good' tomorrow

[@confusedjello7292]

if we never questioned our actions because "everybody else is doing it" we'd still be eating raw elk off the corpse

[@Kristoph-69-69]

PragerU hates the German philosopher with a beard but they love the Austrian painter with the funny mustache.

[@teal_m_101]

I want PragerU to do an episode on Henry Kissinger. "Wow, it's Henry Kissinger! Please tell Leo and I about how you saved countries from the evil clutches of communism!" "Of course. In order to ensure the liberties of all people, we adopted a policy of realpolitik! Instead of worrying about our feelings, we adhered to the most pragmatic solution using facts and logic." "Facts and logic? Cool. I like facts and logic. So, what did you do?" "Well, Leo, we made friends with people who supported the United States of America and its noble efforts." "Like who?" "People like Carlos Armas and Jorge Videla." "Weren't they ruthless military dictators who overthrew democractically-elected governments and then brutally suppressed the masses using tyrannical methods?" "Leo, shut up."

[@spencerpetunia8268]

Not gonna lie, a "parody" series where Leo and Layla learn how terrible Henry Kissinger, etc. actually were in pursuit of rightwing glory could be really fun to watch.

[@pembrokelove]

How do we make this happen? I would absolutely watch this show.

[@connorhart7597]

You know you've done a great job in foreign policy when your actions are STILL killing southeast Asians

[@spencerpetunia8268]

@@pembrokelove I have a Bachelors in History and an Associates in general Media Production, I have experience in writing historical fiction (which this would sort of count as, right?), I follow a decent number of animators who'd produce better-looking work than this schlock, AND I follow some VAs (voice actors) who'd do a better job than whoever's voicing the characters here!

[@tianamcpherson1217]

​@@spencerpetunia8268 Omg it would be so cool if you and others could pull that off! Even if it was just a really short mini series here on KZbin (less than a dozen 5-10 minute "episode") that would be awesome and I would love watching them!

[@HowlingMonki]

Prager U came upon me in the form of a KZbin ad a few months ago; it was the nastiest, most out of touch, piece of garbage I've ever heard. They said the exact same thing about slavery in their damn video that they did for this show! That it was, "the thing everyone did; America isn't racist! Everyone was doing it". Knowing they made a kids show makes me ill.

[@ghostbowandenvysmithfan]

I saw shorts and videos of them explaining stuff on my feed too

[@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126]

but it's right though lmao "Yeah, things sucked back then, but it's not like America and Europe was any worse than any of their contemporary societies"

[@HowlingMonki]

@@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126 that all may be the case, but it shouldn't be seen as an excuse for the behavior.

[@Godzillafan78]

@@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126they all sucked back then

[@herotyranus6540]

I haven’t seen many of their ads recently thank goodness. It also seems like their views are falling off now. 🙏🙏🙏

[@WillDaBeard]

I hate it when these kinda cartoons have a premise where they’re given a superpower that could change the world like “time travel” and instead of doing something like killing Hitler or stopping 9/11, they use it to reaffirm their beliefs.

[@kappadarwin9476]

Or even be selfish and use it to win the school spelling bee they lost.

[@mercy8370]

Ok but you can at least complain in context with the topic because this was a children cartoon, ain't no way they are making them kill Hittler or stop 9/11,, if they did that they would have to explain 9/11 to a bunch of children. I know people in the US learn about it as children, but it doesn't make it any less weird, like christian parens complaining about their children learn at school about being sexual and violent and then teaching them the bible wich is really violent.

[@warlordofbritannia]

Erasing mustache man unfortunately wouldn’t change much. Some authoritarian revanchist would still come to power in Germany in the 1930s, almost certainly leading to a Second World War, etc.

[@N1GHTSTRIKER-45]

Or Prevent The Assassination Of A Random Duke From Austria

[@TheVanishing87]

Interfering with time is dangerous even with the best of intentions. Changing any one major event could have severe consequences for the present. What if going back in time and killing Hitler or stopping a natural disaster makes things even worse in the future? For this reason I hope humanity never discovers a way to time travel. You just know the ability to time travel would be abused by some power hungry idiot and forever ruin everything making things a lot worse for the rest of us.

[@UltimatBlitz]

People worry about skibidi brain rot forgetting we had those kids in class who just played Badgers non stop.

[@jeffreygao3956]

Never even heard of this skibidi thing. Must just be gibberish.

[@Autisteek-i3c]

What's Badgers ?

[@Glasshouse828]

Conservative cartoon creators: We’re tired of works of fiction constantly pushing an agenda Proceeds to push an agenda Moral of the story, just make a good show

[@Ad3tr]

They’re just anti-anti-fa.

[@Johncornwell103]

Every accusation by a Republican is a confession

[@Glorp67]

@@Johncornwell103Thats just politics as a whole. Every political side no matter where on the spectrum is corrupted. They just pander to different audiences. I just want a hard reset on politics lmao

[@Johncornwell103]

@@Glorp67 No it's not the same. Republicans accuse others what they do because: either to downplay what they are doing and make it seem normal Think that if they lose election the other party must have cheated because they were cheating Or just classic projection .

[@ba6tatz]

@@Glorp67 agree

[@manospondylus]

8:28 The Communist Manifesto was a pamphlet, not a book. Marx’s big book was Das Kapital. These people didn’t do even basic research

[@inexistentenouniverso9230]

​@RealQuarlie "the book title, the communist manifesto" is it a manifesto? Yes. Is ti a book? No. That's his point.

[@inexistentenouniverso9230]

@RealQuarlie oh ok, I'm sorry, i feel dumb now.

[@Nachy]

Just got reminded while Jordan Peterson was on a talk, he said "I've looked into and did some research on the Communist Manifesto..." implying it's some doorstopper of a book lol These conservatives are always so dishonest

[@fermintenava5911]

Just because it's called Manifesto, it doesn't has to be a pamphlet. In modern language, Manifestos are any kind of declaration, revealing your goals and plans. They can be pamphlets, books or even just speeches.

[@sudanemamimikiki1527]

Also the whole "most didn't care and few read it " line comes across as incredibly salty and petty. Like a toddler having a hissy fit.

[@tntkff9901]

To be fair, originally, Mr. Peabody's "Way back machine" wasn't actually a "Time Machine" , but more of a simulator that bugged out and they would correct the events so they happen like they should.

[@tayloredwards1675]

Hey, it was and still is funny and quality content ❤

[@splendidsimp]

Imagine having to make sure that hitler got rejected from art school to not mess up the timeline

[@unknowngod8221]

@@splendidsimp well then again germany was really horrible back then in inter war period and yeah thank god peabody hasn't travel too much to more current times

[@vixxcelacea2778]

LOLOLOL Columbus looks like a "really sweet guy" from his pick. Like even his portrait doesn't portray him as a nice person, things which usually were made to show the BEST light of another human being, if not sometimes fabricated a bit to make them look better. That scowl alone would make me avoid him like the plague.

[@Nittle69420]

I can imagine a kid coming to school after watching the columbus episode and sharing what he learned from it and then getting absolutely fucking flamed and gets beat up

[@samarboria]

“this is the woke left’s fault 😢😢😢😢😢😢 it’s their fault that i’m a hopeless moron who abuses their children”

[@spongecakes1986]

Especially if there was even one person of color in that room

[@justawilliamsfan]

if mf gets shunned by THE CATHOLIC CHURCH during the SPANISH INQUISITION you just know he went too far.

[@IronLand-f3g]

@@justawilliamsfan He was shunned because he didn't baptize the new incoming slaves.

[@Random-sk6hm]

Hopefully it makes him never watch the show again tho

[@RocketboyX]

Fun fact, the hero worship movement of Columbus was promoted by Italian mobsters upset that people think that Italians can be mobsters.

[@artsyscrub3226]

That's so funny like they couldn't have used idk da vinci or something?

[@monstercombo007]

So that explains that one line in "The Sopranos"

[@Hwarming]

@@artsyscrub3226 Da Vinci, Galileo, Lorenzo De Medici, Marco Polo, Amerigo Vespucci(who America is named after) Dante Alighieri, Machiavelli, Michelangelo, Vivaldi. All much more interesting Italians who were great figures in history, those are at the top of my head.

[@rho-starmkl4483]

⁠@@HwarmingMaybe not Machiavelli. His name is synonymous with unscrupulous political scheming.

[@Necromantia_ad_Immortuos]

@@rho-starmkl4483that’s mostly due to a misunderstanding of his work. Machiavelli was a really interesting character.

[@TheNerdWithASuit]

*PragerU Frederick Douglass:* "Look, slavery was bad, but you gotta remember the system the ruling class put in place would obviously allow it to end!" *Real Frederick Douglass:* *Praised John Brown*

[@MrRawrCEO]

John Brown...the most based traitor ever

[@TheNerdWithASuit]

@@MrRawrCEO Greatest American who ever lived, and I am not kidding.

[@n0va402]

FREDERICK DOUGLASS BEST BOY Edit: yall love yall Frederick Douglass huh??

[@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126]

@@TheNerdWithASuit he failed lmao

[@headphonesaxolotl]

@@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126 I mean, he DID die fighting for what he believed in and what most of us consider to be the right thing. Of course, he was killed immediately for attempting to break into a _federal armory_ but that's besides the point.