RANT - Why NFT Cartoons are a SCAM

[@Saberspark]

It just keeps getting worse

[@mariomaster101official]

True

[@totaldramaaction5155]

Mhm

[@officialjygaming]

Agree

[@mrnonameyt]

Ye

[@nancygonzalezgarcia8701]

I’d rather trade my phone than an NFT

[@wildheartrazorfang6]

I'm in art school right now and any time NFT's are brought up, my classmates burst in laughter or complain that a family member told them they should get into them. Literally the entire next generation of artists I know are against NFT's

[@oddcrafter1270]

That's encouraging to hear.

[@rayacupkek2705]

Good.

[@Maefiosa]

I'm also in art school and all of us are against NFTs. We are going to make a living out of it (some want to be actors; some want to paint, draw or sculpt; some want to compose; etc.) and DAMN if I told you how much I hate NFTs.

[@azarberries3991]

Same kinda happened to me a month ago💀 My friends dad said i should get into NFTs and we both yelled "NO". It Was funny because they probably didnt see all the negatives and just heard about how "successful" it is, so i wasnt mad, but honestly yeah barely any new gen artist like nfts in the slightest.

[@njcheddar]

omfg, this. my parents are telling me to get into NFT and I just die inside as I don't feel like arguing with them about something so uncertain as this NFT bs thing.

[@sleepysteev2735]

Buying an NFT is like that episode of The Amazing World of Gumball when Richard explains that he spent his life savings on a star certificate.

[@alexsiemers7898]

What’s sad is that “buy a star” organizations were a very real thing not too long ago, and were exactly that

[@lionsoldier1179]

@@alexsiemers7898 Imagine when we do invent interstellar travel, those old certificates actually entitle you to ownership of a star system.

[@thelonecourier3439]

@@lionsoldier1179 would be hilarious with al the joke names

[@rokusho6667]

More apt comparison. Owning an nft is like having a marriage certificate but everyone is sleeping with your other

[@erismason3441]

@@rokusho6667 NFT ownership = being a cuck. Hmm, not sure that's 100% accurate, but it's close enough and I'll defend this comparison to the death.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

NFT's in general are scams, just another way to launder money.

[@Weavewing]

1 minute and there's already bots...

[@totaldramaaction5155]

@Silviaa who cares?

[@randomsamurai3855]

@mr nobody ky

[@mayateeemm5728]

@mr nobody so are you lol

[@beanofknowledge2125]

@@mayateeemm5728 There‘s infighting… These bots are more effective in recognising each other then KZbin is.

[@sauronsrighthandman301]

I remember I went to Comicon once. Only time I've ever gone. Ran into an anime fanartist selling Broly art he drew/painted himself. But he didn't have any art of classic Broly. So me and my brother commissioned him, and two weeks later we got a gift for my brother. Cost us I think $20, and it looks fantastic. You won't find it anywhere except hanging in my little brother's room. That art is very special, since it's personal. We even got a thank you email from the artist who made it thanking us for commissioning him to make it, since it challenged him to make something a bit different, and still unique. NFTs cannot, and will never have that same level of personality and value that our $20 painting will have. And it will stay that way forever.

[@LchanOtakudom]

That’s an awesome story, friend! Makes me want to further support local artists!!

[@LookiePookDaBoi]

Average Broly enjoyer W

[@Tyranistar_7]

If you want real art, ask people for art commissions and support your favorite artist because you’re helping the culture. Say no to NFTS

[@spacedorito9592]

@oh no nah I’ll pass

[@adenmitchell7633]

If you want your fursona drawn just ask a furry artist

[@nakedstatue8517]

I'm so happy whenever ppl commission me 😭 like, having a suspiciously wealthy furry as a regular customer is so much more worth than any NFT ever will be.

[@squeezydoot]

THANK you for defending us artists everywhere

[@yuki97kira]

Most of the time..its genuine and definitely cheaper than some of the NFTs. Of course its custom made as well

[@gabetalks9275]

NFTs are an insult to art itself. It reduces art from something creative to a mere currency, and is built upon scams to steal said currency while luring artists into it promising them a career. It's so scummy.

[@hostomelhorsehoarder]

NFTs are not only an insult to art but an insult to poor people. These people throw their money away on funny monke picture while some people would do anything for that money. Not to mention they are trying to literally trying to claim an island nation. Truly trashy

[@PilotTed]

​@@hostomelhorsehoarder I don't see how or why people spending their money on things they want (even if its stupid) is an insult to poor people. Do you consider it an insult to poor people when you purchase junk food, PC parts, video games, etc that you don't need? NFTs are stupid, but people have spent their money on dumb things before.

[@katkay9923]

@@PilotTed everything else you listed has a purpose. Junk food can be eaten and add joy to bad days, pc parts help your pc run better, and video games provide entertainment. Everything of those, though unneeded for survival technically, provide something, nfts dont

[@krimpfugly]

lotta falsehoods here

[@PasteurizedLettuce]

@@krimpfugly prove it

[@selkiefluff]

May I also add: No, 99% of artists see no opportunities or value in this trash, in fact many are closing down their online galleries because of rampant theft and minting, and others, even total amateurs, are forced to create entire agreements with anti-NFT clauses which discourages both ends and makes it more difficult to take commissions. If they want to spend thousands of bucks on unique personalized art, commisions have always been there.

[@spiderace7994]

It could be useful in the future (don't see how though at the moment). Your right though this "technology" has little to none usefulness. The community is plagued by scammers, theft, malicious practices and etcetera. The average consensus is everyone hate it rightful so for the reasons I stated and more. When the reputation of your "technology" is this bad you think you want to distance yourself or something but literally only the creator has done that. Honestly with all that going for it unless there's a massive clean up in the NFT space I see no future with NFT'S. (It sad though since it was created with good intentions but got corrupted easily)

[@RobotTanuki]

Damn, as someone about to get into making commissions, I never even considered anti-NFT clauses. This is giving me a headache and wish NFTs were never a thing to begin with (I had a bad feeling about the whole thing even when it was used legitimately by proper artists last year).

[@drakkenmensch]

NFTs are like cheese. Sure, there are some meals where cheese adds to the taste, but that doesn't mean I want liquid hot cheese to be pressure-blasted at everyone from large power hoses mounted on large tanker-trucks.

[@nise6699]

@@spiderace7994 NFTs will probably never be good unless you get rid of the cryptobros' main point which is decentralization. All the stolen art and scams can never be deleted if it's turned into NFTs unless it's not decentralized but I think that'll just turn NFTs into FTs so might as well just use other services that monetize works

[@mattwo7]

The most popular ones like BAYC and Cryptopunks are algorithmically generated, they're not even art.

[@roninfredricson6958]

I also like that when The Red Ape Family cartoon came out some guy involved in it tweeted something like "This is truly something great, it's a better pilot than Family Guy" and as someone who hates Family Guy, HOW DARE YOU say that about Family Guy.

[@PuzzlingGoal]

They set themselves a bar so low it sits on the ground. Then proceeded to dig underneath and triumphantly conga line their way to failure.

[@rogercheetoofficial]

The whole "it helps artists" thing is so hilariously false at this point solely because you either have your art stolen by a third party and minted with your only recourse being either DMCA striking the image or privatizing your gallery, or you become ostracized for participating in a technology that's both destructive to the environment and heavily steeped in unrestricted greed

[@screamingcactus1753]

Not to mention it takes over a hundred dollars to mint an NFT, and if you aren't in on some kind of grift, you'll never sell one for that amount. An artist attempting to mint their entire collection would be thousands in the hole. NFT's only "protect" art from theft in the same way the Mafia "protects" stores from arson.

[@valorousowl]

Apparently the artists behind bored apes and lazy lions weren't even fully paid for the original commissions to begin with.

[@DanielsChannelNo2]

i just litterly had a little textwall rageout speaking about exactly that before reading ur comment, feels good there likeminded (i mean the what it means for artists&and licenses not the eviroment part as i cant judge that yet)

[@paulolucero9864]

Yup, literally the most expensive watermarks in human history.

[@AvalynTheAccursed]

Yeah, art theft was always a problem. But now people can get PAID for art theft, while the original artists don't get a dime from that. Someone please explain to me how that helps the artist in any way. Cuz I only see that benefitting the thief.

[@Ender994]

whats annoying about this whole nft cartoon diboacle is that there are actual cartoons made on the internet made by smaller creators that are not even getting HALF the recognition of these cartoons. these need to stop.

[@thehumbleebumblee]

Ikr? You immediately made me think of helluva

[@dragames]

So, it's taking advantage of the stupid. And it's a shame because they think, because someone is getting rich, that it's good. It's like gambling. 100 people play, 1 person wins 50% of the pay in as the pot and then the organizer keeps 50% of that money. Except, in this case, it's literal laundering. People are putting value into these so that it can't be traced, can't be taxed and if they're not outright stealing the art, they're paying stupid kids like the Baluga whale artist (I mean, come on, her art's pretty shit) millions so that they can transfer MORE millions to other people without it being recorded by the government or taxed. Further to the scam, because of the amount they put in, other people believe there's more value so they put in more money. It's like the trick with strippers who put in $5's and $10's into their outfit to make other people think they need to pay $5's and $10's instead of $1's. Now that they invested a little to make it seem valuable, these idiots are putting a lot of money on these images and what do the 'organizers' do? Immediately cash out. And that's the same thing with Crypto. And I'm tired of seeing smug shits going "you just don't get it" Oh no, I get it more than you They're so cultlike. "It's bridging the gap between the haves and the have nots" No, you're just the new 'haves'. Everyone else joining crypto is the have nots and will stay that way. Again, 100 people play, 1 person wins, and since they won, they seem to not attribute it to being in the lucky position to win, that it's an actual business model. And I shit you not, one of the top crypto farmers in the world described how it works like this "You use energy to create heat. That heat makes your computer solve math problems, for each math problem you solve, you work your way up to earning a bit coin. Solve enough, you get a block chain, which gives you more bit coins. THE VALUE OF BIT COINS IS SAFE BECAUSE THERE CAN ONLY BE SO MANY AND NO MORE WILL BE MADE" Note so far that contradictory statement, you make bit coins, but there can be no more bitcoins? Huh. When asked what do these math problems do, instead of knowing what real value it has just says "Creates heat"... ya know when we already have a global warming environmental problem, there is no VALUE in creating heat. Now, once upon a time, the value crypto farming had was tied into things like banks not wanting to pay for a server so the 'math' was using your computer as a server to do the computations of tons of bank transactions so they were paying to rent your computer to do this. This has since been illegal in the USA so this whole 'heat' thing is just them being scammed.

[@michaelstrong5383]

And those cartoons are for free too.

[@bluelfsuma]

Just so's ya knows, it's spelled "debacle". Hope that helps.

[@jorionedwards]

​@@dragames That "top crypto farmer" must have been a blithering buffoon. Any heat generated during farming is a byproduct. Just waste, like any other intensive processor operation. More BTC is being made and will continue to be made until it's no longer profitable for farms, likely when GPUs can no longer solve the ever more complex blockchains fast enough to offset the electricity they draw. Let no one tell you otherwise. Sides, money's better with Forex and silver and they both have applications outside fund storage.

[@izzymcgee2527]

It doesn't surprise me how many companies piled on the band wagon when they found out they could make an absurd amount of money from overy-hyped, low effort, cookie cutter, garbage JPEGs.

[@guntherhermann4225]

Now hold on! Don't be unreasonable! Some companies are actually shaking things up by selling over-hyped, low effort, cookie cutter garbage *GIFS* instead! Or hell, look at the greedy fuckwi-- I mean savvy entrepreneur behind the Charlie Bit my Finger video! He's turning a beloved classic KZbin video into an over-hyped, low effort, cookie cutter garbage .MOV file!

[@immortalist1010]

And so the bot invasion begins

[@immortalist1010]

@The Real Princess Daddy ok

[@MaggieAMoscaZoadora]

*Overly

[@insertjokehere]

Can agree.

[@abnormal_zen]

4:38 There was an artist who was dying of a serious illness, and they made beautiful drawings of their experience. They later passed away, and some guy just took her art and made it into an NFT. 🙁

[@wraith_2309]

I've heard about this before and it makes me, oh so furious about it. At the end of the day that person who sold her art as nfts is seriously going to burn in hell.

[@tobysresearchprogram9296]

EtikaPunks much -.-

[@le_prime4385]

What the fuck

[@StupidlyGlitchedDelta]

What the actual fuck is wrong with people, whoever fucking turns art made from someone who died into an NFT deserves to get beat up mercilessly.

[@dukedevlan5457]

Man that sucks

[@laylam.ingram-alger6091]

NFTs are literally making me afraid to post art. Turns out, people like to steal artwork and make them into NFTs.

[@potatohildy]

Yeah at least deviant art has things that notify artists

[@kurros1270]

Honestly the best way to combat them so far, is to make NSFW Furry art. Though I would only do this if you're 18 or older.

[@aratusingtheinternet]

Me too, I’m scared of my Art getting stolen

[@froggybutt]

@@kurros1270 nope, I've seen those stolen too. just cropped. nothing is safe, nothing is sacred.

[@abrahamnarvaez1730]

I’d say beat them to the punch and make it a nft yourself A - it’s gets out there like you intended B - they can’t profit of your work C - you might money for it It’s might not be what you intend for your art to become but you shouldn’t let scammers steal your work for their personal as well as stifle your creativity in fear of its misuse

[@eevee727]

You know it’s bad when the PERSON WHO INVENTED THE TECH BEHIND NFTS knows it’s all gone downhill and hates what it’s become.

[@battlion507]

Reminds me of Hugh Darrow from Deus Ex Human Revolution. Made cyborgs a thing, saw all the issues that happened and then decided to turn all cyborg people into rampant zombies, just to show how dangerous such tech could fall into the wrong hands.

[@dallanledford6364]

So did the guy who made the TV.

[@eevee727]

@@dallanledford6364 Yeah I think we can agree that most stuff on TV these days is garbage.

[@blaacksugar7714]

Just like crossfit.

[@somedude-vp9ti]

You mean the ETH core devs, oh I wouldn't be surprised, They have standards, NFTs don't cut those standards, but nothing they can do

[@SilvaHound]

Every point in this video is what I’ve been trying to explain to people about why NFTs are really bad. Thank you for articulating these frustrations in such a clear (and furious) fashion, my dude 😅😅😅

[@Regular_Everyday_Normal_MF]

I am here to say I totally agree with you, good sir. NFT’s can go die in a ditch

[@manowa3395]

Unrelated to your comment, but your Sona is absolutely adorable. :D

[@Regular_Everyday_Normal_MF]

@@manowa3395 Check out his (or her IDK) channel. Silva Hound made a lot of the songs from Helluva Boss and among other things.

[@manowa3395]

@@Regular_Everyday_Normal_MF You have piqued my interest good sir!

[@Regular_Everyday_Normal_MF]

@@manowa3395 Sweet deal 👍🏻

[@bicokun]

Thing about it is that even if they start making “good” NFT cartoons, it still won’t make NFTs good because the whole idea of manufacturing scarcity is ridiculous and bad for the creative community.

[@kriscynical]

I'm a professional illustrator, designer, and colorist. I went to school for it and all that fancy shit, and I've been working at a professional capacity for 15 years now. My work has been stolen THREE TIMES on that same damn site for this bullshit and I'm already sick of it. I got the listings removed via DMCAs but now I hear that site isn't even responding to them anymore, so _that's fantastic._ The only thing I'm more sick of than NFTs themselves is all the dudebros trying to tell me how my own industry actually works and saying I just don't like NFTs because I'm "boring and old" and don't understand them. My dude, you told me I could claim ownership of my work by _taking a picture of my paint and brushes._ I'm not the one who needs some educating here, you doorknob.

[@jinchuriki7022]

New age art

[@csokissuti7343]

@@jinchuriki7022 NFT isn't art,its nowhere near to be called that. Actual art takes time and talent,everyone has their own style and own story to tell with it or just doing it for fun,meanwhile NFT's are the same shit generated over and over again with different hats and mouth,nothing much changes. Calling it art is insulting to actual artists..

[@jinchuriki7022]

@@csokissuti7343 to each their own

[@Zuion_Art]

@@csokissuti7343 feels like we should spam whole NFT communities with "NFT is trash i make better art than that" My art still shi- but you get what i mean

[@kriscynical]

@@jinchuriki7022 You just managed to tell me a metric shit-ton about your knowledge of art and the graphic art industry in only three words. That's rather impressive.

[@grantmoore8228]

I'm sick and tired of people saying "NFT's help artists find an audience" because one, I've yet to see a single NFT bro be upset over the rampant art theft going on in the community and two, these people aren't buying it because they actually like these crappy drawings. They're buying it for the receipt above all else!

[@FezFindie]

Nah, NFTbros instead blow a casket if you call out on the concept and threaten you instead.

[@thehumbleebumblee]

Yes this

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

NTF websites just steal art and sell it. Qinni's artworks were just stolen by NFT cultists because she's dead. And there's no oversight You can just freely steal any art and nobody can stop you. It's completely amoral.

[@moeshrooms385]

Half of them don’t even know the artist that they are buying the art from! I’m positive that more than half of the people with those dumb monkey nfts don’t know and don’t care about the artist that makes them.

[@Fxmbro]

a lot of them use a computer generation software, randomize colors and asset on a dummy avatar. Kinda like a character selection screen but like auto generated

[@VampyBlood17]

You know what’s even worse about NFTs is it’s starting to invade into gaming. A game called Highrise has recently been getting into NFTs and the game has been going to shit because of it. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s entire user base is completely gone in a few more years. Additionally, it’s SO BAD FOR ARTISTS! I originally thought “oh maybe this will help digital artists sell their work as “originals”” but no, it hasn’t, it’s only made it 10x worse for us!

[@Epicboy099]

We must stop nfts before it's too late. Get ready to screenshot every single one you see.

[@KillShot_Studios]

It's invaded even tf2 and they started using a KZbinrs content, they died of leukemia. Not to mention the people who hacked stan lee's Twitter to promote nfts

[@Epicboy099]

@@KillShot_Studios *pulls out super shotgun* Time to rip and tear.

[@jammer7vvvq691]

Ugh, the amount of pay to win and micro transactions this will promote is ridiculous! Also all the corporations and whoever is behind the bored ape things definitely have enough money, how many independent artists are really making a reasonable amount of money vs just already rich people?

[@enskje]

@@KillShot_Studios Haven't it always been in TF2? I remember playing the game years ago, and some items would be randomly locked inside crates with low chances of being acquired, and people would sell "buds" on the markedplace for insane amounts.

[@TheDr502]

"NFTs can help you support your favorite artists!!" Art commissions, prints, art workshops, art instruction videos, merchandise, and lots of other ways to support artists work just fine. Plus, they don't encourage art theft. "NFTs can be used to verify your ownership of a car!!". Ever heard of a car title, VIN, or license plate? Those (legal) methods of car ownership exist. "NFTs can be used to verify your ownership of an item you bought from a store, sports tickets, etc!!" Receipts work just fine. Plus, you can text or email them to yourself, too if you lose the paper receipt. "NFTs can be used to verify your ownership of a piece of real estate!!". Purchase and sale contract. Look it up. In short, NFTs are pointless.

[@GenetMJF]

NFTs are just pump-and-dump scams. They hype it up to others to make them seem like they are worth of big money (that they rly arent).

[@TheDr502]

@@GenetMJF They can be sold for big money if you're the 0.00000001% of investors who has the money to buy it from yourself for $1 million or sell it to some celeb you know personally. Everyone else just flushes their money down the toilet.

[@KenanTheFab]

literally everything cryptobros pitch already exists or would make things worse. NFTs in games would just be more expensive loot boxes, paid to play is literally just capitalism and the flaws it has made even more apparent. NFTs and nft bros are just another layer of capitalism that tries to make scarcity happen where it doesn't exist or needs to. Imagine if memes become "minted" and you need to buy a license to share it.

[@TheDr502]

@@KenanTheFab The best part is when these types insist that there must be use-cases for NFTs and that some Einstein will figure it out some day. That always cracks me up. I'm thinking, "If you're desperately trying to figure out a purpose for a product that you released because its price and sales revenue have plummeted, then either it didn't have a purpose to start with or it failed miserably to fulfill that purpose."

[@2-d_in_a_bag]

@@TheDr502 buying it from yourself? so… money laundering?

[@thenerdbeast7375]

Here is a fun fact: The NFT bubble has gotten so out of control that the inventor of NFTs, Anil Dash, _has disowned them._ It is so bad that even the guy who first invented them hates them!

[@longislandicedtea6323]

y'know if he wanted to redeem himself (more so than he has by disowning this glorified ponzi scheme) he COULD create anti-nft tech

[@thenerdbeast7375]

@oh no what does that have to do with anything?

[@bgaming2297]

@@thenerdbeast7375 It's a bot.

[@zaynedickens2450]

It sounds like the guy who made pop up ads. He too hates what he created.

[@anthropomorphicpeanut6160]

@@zaynedickens2450 I feel bad for him, he had no way of knowing that in 2022 we would have to click so many things (cookies, close ads, don't allow notifications, etc) before entering a webpage

[@emmareiman64]

What these people should actually do: - Commission an artist to make them an OC (Original Character) - Make a story for that character - Animate that story for that character And boom. It's already 6000 times better than any of this NFT shite It's that simple. And on top of that? - You're not destroying the environment to the same degree - You're supporting an artist - You get something that only You can have, it was made and tailored specifically for You. What's not to love?

[@hgbugalou]

Yeah exactly. In this day and age you can produce, host, and sell things online with a very small team at minimal costs to you. Just look at what people like Louis CK and Aziz Ansari are doing with their stand up specials. Like them or their comedy or not, their model of selling directly to their fans via the internet assures the artist is getting paid the most without middle men studios and networks needing to be involved. This works the same for painters, crafters, material artisans, etc. More over, movie production companies proved in the early 2000s that if you make content hard to buy, artificially rare (eg: Disney), or absurdly expensive people are just going to pirate the content. NFTs and NFTs cartoons are no different and nothing about the technology prevents pirating of the thing that is suppose to hold value (the artistic content). No one cares about the placeholder/hyperlink on the blockchain except maybe the owner trying to flex on twitter (which no one cares about except the other NFT owner fanboy/girl zombies). On a side note, if you want to see an example of toxic positivity lurk some of the NFT threads on twitter. Circlejerk isn't even a powerful enough word to describe it.

[@mangcho_media6974]

Yeah it's normal to love paying someone sub-slave wages for something no one will ever see, rather than a silly, attention-grabbing cartoon tied to a unique token, which can be resold at a markup

[@Smile4theKillCam456]

Which one is more cringe though 🤔 both seem pretty atrocious

[@mangcho_media6974]

@@Smile4theKillCam456 The one that pays less, of course

[@Okay-yt9qt]

@@mangcho_media6974 NFTs are not unique. Yes the code may be unique, but the art itself is usually just the same image with a few changes. You may buy it because you see it as a unique token and everything, but others can literally save that ‘token’ without having to pay a dime. Besides, it’s really hard to resell NFTs nowadays, as it’s just an overpriced image that is essentially worthless. So, you’d just be wasting money on something that you can literally download for free, and is nothing but a cash grab with the promise of getting a profit. With paid commissions, you at least know you are supporting an artist who actually cares about their work, and not some random person who just wants to make some quick cash. You will also know that you will have a truly unique piece made for you. Not a copy and pasted image made with little effort, but an artwork that an artist spent days, or even weeks on, and was specially made for you.

[@Artzipants]

I'm a digital artist (also do traditional) and so glad you are talking about this topic. The amount of those damn NFT bros message me to make art for them is too high to count. Once I heard about this, I knew this thing was never about the Artist. Reminds me of those people who purchases art for the millions. Its just laundering, but they making it sound fancy.

[@aFoxyFox.]

Yeah, this all seems like some kind of major fraud going on! Lots of people are cashing in while people are still trying to figure out what fungible means in order for something to be non-fungible.

[@hirahiro2331]

A job came to me and asked if I can do NFT and I denied them. I wouldn’t mind if it was safe…

[@royalblanket]

@@hirahiro2331 It just doesn't even sound pleasing to me. The mere existence of crypto and nfts is nothing more than a business. No one will be appreciating the art cause it's good, they'll appreciate it because "oh wow it's one of them new fangled nfts"

[@kevinzhechair]

I was looking at horrible NFT's and saw that someone was stealing fanart of Markiplier and other youtubers and selling them. I even found some art of my own friends in there, it sickens me as an artist to see people trying to prophet on fan made things made by other people with absolutely no respect to the wonderful people who created the art. I am absolutely paranoid of my own art, that I spend days and sometimes weeks on, being sold off on these scams.

[@wafflesthearttoad6916]

I uploaded a reference sheet for my OC and I got a stupid NFT world bot comment, I really hope he doesn’t get sold, he’s a very personal OC of mine. :(

[@kevinzhechair]

@@wafflesthearttoad6916 hope he doesn't either, no artist deserves their work being stolen and sold off like nothing. We put time and effort into work just for stupid people to try and steal them. Like as if we didn't work hard on them or put our heart n soul into them.

[@Colddirector]

@@kevinzhechair The SEC needs to get off its ass and bring the hammer down on these grifters.

[@vincetravis8701]

I think it's funny (in a depressing way) that people don't care to steal a real artist's work to sell, but those same people lose their minds if you steal their auto-generated butt-ugly monkey.

[@toasturhztoastbunz896]

Apparently there are also sellers who impersonate dead artists and repurpose their art as NFTs. Disgusting. 🤢

[@Vernydog92]

The art community have been doing this for years. They are called "adopts" or "adoptables" and contain species with designs that are one of a kind. There is a market for them in art communities and they are MUCH more interesting than NFTs. Legit also can support legit artists who make them. Just COMMISSION artists for a ONE OF A KIND piece. Not to mention there is a HUGE art theft issue in the NFT community which should be a reason all in itself to NOT support them as Saber said. As an artist myself I REFUSE to support NFT's knowing a lot of the art is stolen.

[@kurapikakurta1997]

Adoptable are better than nfts. Most aren’t pumped out just for money, and some of them are just pure passion projects. And they also bring the only positive people say nfts bring artists. We can get good money for those if we’re lucky.

[@spoopyvirgil4944]

Also free adoptables get snatched up because people like characters that are actually made by people. I made one free adoptable post on Tumblr with five characters I made and people snatched them all up.

[@averyconfusedworm]

Adoptables are...slightly different. Really it depends on the artist and or species being sold and even though you can just save the image its an easy easy for artist's to make money

[@miticaBEP07]

Honestly even Gacha is preferable to NFT. They might be shallow gambling, but at least they don’t pollute. Also in some games they can be full characters with fun personalities and complete backstories, be used for active playing with a plot and all, and be enjoyed even without spending actual money on them.

[@thecrtf4953]

Adoptables are definitely different but they definitely have a similar existence but the thing is they are unique and made with love and passion especially in the furry community were adoptables can be various characters made or a species the owner had made I remeber doing adoptables and I enjoyed making them alot and was happy when people adopted them

[@YelloWool]

Why do people want to spend thousands on a JPG?

[@gggghhhheeee]

Because they think it's going to be the new bitcoin

[@fatherpucci8170]

Maybe they just bored

[@throwaway1beavisandbutthea886]

Because we as a society have failed

[@ThatGuy-qj6if]

Isn't it just a hyperlink, not an actual jpg?

[@kurros1270]

For the most part, Money Laundering and grifts.

[@bluejediforce]

Aside from the art theft, exploitation of dead artists, and environmental impact, you know what hurts the most? That THIS bullshit is what kicked people in the pants to animate random shit. Like Stoner Cats? If that was a kickstarter or a youtube project? Man I'd have fun watching it, the art is cute! Even the fucking... Red Ape Family. If some goofy amateur animator made something that looked like that and put it on youtube, I would think to myself "hey this doesn't visually look great but holy shit some person put hear and time into this and I commend them." But no it's a cashgrab for rich fuckwits! THAT'S WHAT GETS PEOPLE TO INDEPENDENTLY ANIMATE I GUESS!!

[@raze2012_]

"If that was a kickstarter or a youtube project? Man I'd have fun watching it, the art is cute!" I doubt it'd even get to 10% of the funds needed to even consider pitching a pilot. Good animation is expensive, risky, and ultimately premium. KZbin's ad revenue system is hostile to how animators work, and it's value to coporate is very thin (basically, the animation industry and no more). There's virtually zero way to grassroots such a project without you yourself just spending ungodly amounts of time doing it yourself, because you sure can't pay a team. It's a rough industry, and attempts to automate this so solo animation is financially feasible is still in its infancy (in fact, it's cutting edge computer science ATM).

[@bluejediforce]

@@raze2012_ Sure it's hard, but not impossible! And animators on youtube often team up to make projects, I know of several in the works and several that have been done before. Even solo ones. They're labors of love, not for profit most of the time. They do exist though! I wish it was better for animators, though. I really, really do.

[@ThatBaconFanatic]

Someone made technoblade nfts I don’t know why

[@egranger2128]

I can’t believe Paris Hilton tried to help promote a frieken NFT cartoons. Last time I saw her she was putting up this front that her “dumb blonde chick” personality was just a facade and she wasn’t as dumb as she portrayed herself in public and I actually believed her. Now I see her voicing a character for Dink Doink coin. Now I feel stupid believing her.

[@poego6045]

Or it's possible that if that WAS the case and she was putting on a dumb facade, it would make sense she would jump on the bandwagon and try to scam people to make more money. She's rich so probably has no perpective on how these scams hurt people (or she doesn't care)

[@Tsinibor]

There are three phases of a person's life: 1. He hates Paris Hilton for being a bimbo. 2. He respects Paris Hilton because he's above such petty things. 3. He hates Paris Hilton for being an NFT shill.

[@mischiefthedegenerateratto7464]

Freakin'*

[@niar1726]

I mean Paris Hilton did NFT since the beginning. Including the Among us Drip Space is hot NFT

[@miticaBEP07]

Idris Elba also purchased one, as well as Snoop Dogg, Eminem, and many other famous women such as Reese Witherspoon, Eva Longoria, even Serena Williams. My heart is in tatters. As well as the aforementioned Tara Strong. Paris probably wants to have the facade of a smart businesswoman.

[@magencrisis1682]

The cryptoland people claiming they can OWN and GOVERN an Island that has already been specified to form part of Fiji's territory, down to the point of putting up illegal casinos and making their own age of consent (wtf) is hilarious. It's like the "Reddit Island" dumpsterfire but a hundred times more cringe.

[@Sadaj]

I find that weird that a crytocurrency that is adding to global warming, which is in turn threatening island nations like fiji by rising sea levels, wants to buy a island. Isn't it a little counter intuitive? Just saying.

[@vylbird8014]

@@Sadaj Maybe global warming has some upsides. Other than finally giving America an appendectomy.

[@thunderbird3304]

@@vylbird8014 Too bad it doesn't kill only those cryptobros, so we have to prevent it and shit

[@trevevern6788]

@@thunderbird3304 agreed. If Global warming was just a "stop NFTs" thing, then it would be fine. But it's actually fucking up our environment and will most likely squad wipe everyone, NFT lover or not, off the planet. 😰

[@Steelwaterfall1]

A bunch of people who have no fucking idea how to lead, govern groups of people, nonetheless manage the purchase of an entire sovereign island are always the ones saying LET'S BUY AN ISLAND GUYS! I'm almost positive it's been more than jus these guys and Reddit but those are the most high profile ones I know

[@randomdj9165]

About the Pokémon thing, there’s three main differences between that and NFTs 1. They are physical things that you can hold in your hand and feel like you own it, rather than just a digital photo 2. The art looks cool, and each Pokémon is individually drawn, while most NFts are just randomly generated faces that look ugly 3. Pokémon Cards actually have a function. They have abilities, you can play against other players, people win and lose, and cards that are more rare are actually stronger, while the only function NFTs have are that you can send them to your friends on discord or something, and maybe get a quick chuckle out of them

[@caidalee1994]

And you can’t copy it the way you can an NFT. You can’t right-click a physical object. Limited truly means limited.

[@iqbalindaryono8984]

Point 2 and 3 doesn't really hold any water, if pokemon cards was translated into a nft, it would still be able to keep those attributes. The art looking "cool" doesn't hold much water if the ones who made the nft gave a shit. The only requirement for an image to be a nft is for it to have a digital form. Saying these cards have abilities is like saying nft has real world value. They're just pieces of cardboard that was given an "ability". Its like saying a pawn piece can't be a king piece because it's a pawn piece. A round rock can be a king piece if I deem it so, it isn't because king pieces are readily available and that it's simpler to use a premade one. But if I somehow lost that piece I can always use basically everything as a substitute.

[@iqbalindaryono8984]

@@caidalee1994 Ha ha printer goes brrrrr

[@BlueRGuy]

@@iqbalindaryono8984 I mean, some of them are limited and doesn't reach mass production. Your logic is like saying that buying a Ferrari 250 Grand Turismo Omologato is the same as buying any other car. (While yes, I agree that NFT are worthless)

[@BlueRGuy]

@@iqbalindaryono8984 also about the printed thing, I'm pretty sure it somehow has a protection against a printer, like how you can't just print money on a printer. And the fact that well it's Nintendo, they're gonna copyright anyone who's using their intellectual property to makes money.

[@helloimskip]

As a small artist on DeviantArt who needs money. I would still avoid NFT to keep my reputation clean.

[@happylilguy1827]

God damn I'm so glad Saberspark not only is speaking out about this, but is speaking PASSIONATELY about it. Openly saying "fuck you" to these shitty corporations is a genuine joy to watch. Mad respect.

[@yosefyonin6824]

Seeing level headed creators enraged with righteous fury will always be top tier content

[@pumkin610]

And then there's the famous people who start promoting it heavily lol t ar a str o ng

[@SKULLIVAN_THE_DAWG]

Thank god, someone who understands. A NFT is basically a scam/cash-grab for people who wants someone else’s art just for the money. I think Logan Paul did this to his suscribers and they got scammed. NFTs got popular more recently and it’s really bullcrap to artists (from my perspective) because you’re bascially selling someone else’s art without their consent. This is absolutley garbage. Please stop this shit.

[@matheussanthiago9685]

at this point I have zero sympathy for logan paul suscribers there has been enough opportunity to grow out of the gutter if they're still there they deserve anything coming at them

[@Eminster]

@fine what is. Your downfall?

[@thunderrain789]

@@matheussanthiago9685 I can sympathize with the really young ones who just got introduced to the internet recently enough not to know about the garbage he's done. Definitely not the ones old enough to actually buy things though.

[@dane4073]

I'd take the owner of the NfT if it was my artist. I'd sue them even if they just bought it innocently for as much as I could. Eve if it bankrupts them I wouldnt care. I'd just say. Go ask the seller for your money back

[@Alondro77]

I do this thing where I COMMISSION an artist for a SPECIFIC picture that we work out the details on. Then, I get the finished picture! Amazing, isn't it? Artist is happy, I'm happy. This NFT crap is almost certainly for the woke losers who have no money.

[@D_LGND]

People back then: *Spend hours making a painting that overtime are worth millions* People now: *Just put more hats onto ape, then sell for 10M*

[@NEEDbacon]

Fun fact: this might have all come about from those "Million dollar paintings". In 2020 the IRS or someone important declared that art pieces are tax deductible. And wouldn't you know what got popular RIGHT AFTER THAT? So now folks are able to put in even less work for crazy money. Hopefully it doesn't take government agencies years to catch on.

[@D_LGND]

@@JabbaTheHutt-ic4xl truly a masterpiece, the Mona Lisa can’t compare to that

[@iBankai1995]

"Definitely worth millions", It wasn't evaluated like that not until some - OH WAIT - Tax Evaders wanted to throw away money :)

[@sberky98]

monke with hat vs good art what will win

[@DavidVillaTorre]

Even back then paintings weren't worth much. Usually they became expensive long after the artist's death

[@thebonksipper8811]

This is honestly kind of terrifying. From what I’ve read in the comments, it seems like literally ANY piece of digital art nowadays can be stolen and sold as an NFT. Even if a small group of people animates something and it takes a few months to painstakingly make and polish the content, all it’d take is for one person who saw it to put it on what is basically the intellectual property black market and make potential MILLIONS off of it without doing any work themselves! It’s insulting. It’s disgusting. It’s scary. It's amoral. But think about it this way - those of us who aren’t as well off and can see NFTs for what they truly are know how to avoid them and can simply laugh as the idiot elite bring everything crashing down. The night is always darkest before the dawn.

[@parnash]

I explained NFTs to my family, and my dad had a good point, it was like a line from a TV show he watched, where the character said 'Basically I just sell air space'.

[@sunshineyrainbows13]

It's like the Lorax, that guy selling air in a bottle. Lol.

[@shadowsonicsilver6]

It just hit me. NFTs are that joke from Team Four Star’s FF7 Abridged, the one about buying space.

[@CollieCalamari]

6:53 as a digital artist, I gotta be honest NFTs have been hurting us more than they could ever help, any respectable artist you find will be strongly against NFTs, a lot of us have gotten our works stolen and sold for ridiculous prices as NFTs and the market is already saturated by rich people who don't care about art and just want to make cash, NFTs have NO place in artist spaces

[@SparkzEnt]

You know it's bad when even the orignal creator of them (who intended to use the blockchain to protect the art of artists) has spoken against

[@sunshineyrainbows13]

Yes. As an artist as well I agree. It's a horrible invention.

[@Noone-wt9jz]

@The Real Princess Daddy Reported.

[@NitwitsWorld]

@The Real Princess Daddy what...........................

[@_marshP]

Honestly I sort of wanna be an artist but I'm too afraid to actually post anything until NFT's kick the bucket

[@shgurr]

The stoner cat thing is super interesting 🤔 so the cartoon is exclusive and builds a community... everything else is 🤢

[@Wroar2020s]

Hi shugurr

[@humorsue8548]

I sniff Gorilla Glue.

[@teddyfurstman1997]

Hi shugrr 🥰

[@Andres-ul9wo]

shgurr you are amazing

[@Planag7]

I believe there is a small game being backed by NFTs but they might have limited the amount of investors to keep it exclusives. Sadly, there are copy cats doing it without even having a CONCEPT for the game. "Once we get funded we will brainstorm it!" Like omg

[@metro_bot]

I remember once my mom sent me a video called "How to make NFT's and sell them." since she knows I make art, I told her and my dad about how bad NFT's are and why we shouldn't support them, I'm really glad they understood how bad they were and didn't just yell at me.

[@ivanmedina2983]

I am 100% completely against NFTs and I 100% agree with your rant. NFTs are a scam and the NFT cartoon belongs in the trash. I’m super mad on what they did with Qinni’s beautiful art!

[@ivanmedina2983]

@Mango The CCaique part two Even though Qinni isn’t with us anymore, her art and legacy lives forever to inspire new artist to find their style and show people talent and love. It’s a shame that people fall for the excuse of “NFTs are a next big thing!! Even the future of art!!” which is not. If there’s something I learned, NFTs are just a fad.

[@CreativeHandleOrSomething]

@The Real Princess Daddy reported.

[@amogusus4684]

@The Real Princess Daddy I can very much tell that u ate cocaine

[@ivanmedina2983]

@Mango The CCaique part two It just pisses me off that those people could just take other people’s hard work and profit them of to an auction containing crypto without their concent and somehow can’t take any criticism realizing that what they’re doing is not only disrespectful, but illegal as well. And as artist, at first we think to ourselves, should we be afraid to publicly show our work without noticing what will happen next, No because we could just call them out and tell them that it’s wrong for putting our art in auction without permission and such, especially with the work of the deceased. Also ignore that comment, it’s just spam trying to get attention.

[@LarsTonguesInAspix]

So many scams in the reply xD

[@pyrasthegoat4270]

As someone who deals with non-fungible items (antique book trade), I can confidently say that NFTs are literally the least non-fungible thing ever invented. Not to mention that the supporters seems to completely missed the point "just because it's non-fungible does not means it's valuable" On a positive note, it's fun to see all corners of internet (furry fandom, art and art commentary community, gamers, Neopets, Animal Jams and Feral community, Twitch streamers, animation community and many others) united against NFTs, and it's glorious!

[@blaacksugar7714]

I remember Neopets.

[@tortoisewarrior]

as a (former) fer.al player seeing the discord riot after the nft announcement was glorious

[@GarouLady]

People tend to forget that anything is worth only what someone ELSE is willing to pay for it. It's the same way with any collectible. Like Beanie babies. I remember when people thought they could put their kids through college collecting and selling those things. Now I can go down to a 2nd hand store and buy some for as cheap as 25 cents.

[@drdewott9154]

Yup. This whole NFT bubble is hopefully gonna burst sooner rather than later, thank god. I mean these NFT guys are always thinking about how they can profit by selling their little tokens off to someone else and take the earnings. But I mean... who is gonna buy this, Especially at such high prices. Their whole system is built upon speculative value. That if they can't gain the interest to get the value to rise, their whole case is busted and they're broke. So thats why they're always trying to garner the interests of famous people or heck anyone with disposable income to invest. Because if they think its valuable, it automatically boosts the value of what they have. Thank god a lot of people see right through them, even if both the Corporations of the world, and the NFT guys themselves are embodiments of Mr Crabs. I mean I'm sure, or at the very least hope that they'll soon have milked that NFT cow to the point there's no milk left and kinda just have to go bust.

[@an3582]

@The Real Princess Daddy Nobody cares Princess.

[@kalinaszek]

At least people had something physical after it bursted. Now they practically getting nothing

[@amogusus4684]

I still have some beanie babies from quite a few years ago. I remember my most liked one was the beagle one named tracker

[@thunderrain789]

Now that's a throwback. My first experience with the idea of collecting things was meeting a friend of my mom's who collected beanie babies. She was super passionate about them too. Good times.

[@hypnoticdemon]

It's crap like this that can crush artists, wether it be the fear of art theft or people buying low quality jpegs with slight edits instead of going to an actual artist who is actually passionate about their work and comissioning an original piece.

[@indefiniteartblock434]

I can't stand how much companies are shoving this stuff down our throats. At one point, all the ads I got were crypto crap and it really made frustrated because people I know started to jump in on it right after. It's disgusting that they're making cartoons out of this stuff.

[@kenobigaming5755]

It’s sad because genuinely talented and good artist are getting screwed over by stuff like this

[@apollyonnoctis1291]

When, not if, the US makes a law that takes care of this, I’m betting 1 billion dollars that Twitter will be filled with whining babies complaining how it’s a violation of their rights, when all of their artwork is stolen. Then when they try to storm Parliament, they’ll all be whining about why they got arrested and are losing all of the money they scammed from people.

[@krimpfugly]

how many of them have you given your business to in 2022?

[@GUGAMINECRAFT]

Hello there

[@kenobigaming5755]

@@GUGAMINECRAFT hello there

[@GUGAMINECRAFT]

@@kenobigaming5755 general kenobi

[@sudolinuxfish]

The worst part is that they are starting to put NFTs on LOL dolls now. I see them popping up at Walmart and people fighting over them every single time they get restocked and not a child in sight asking for them.

[@micah5918]

It sadly hilarious when an adult fight over a kids toy.

[@minxyayala]

I'm sorry but WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE NFT FOR LOL DOLL?!?!? Lol doll are kid toys, there making kid toys NFTs? Hold on I need to look this up

[@minxyayala]

What the fuck there is. My little sister loves the toys I don't what her or my family involved in this.

[@re1010]

Sounds like bean babies or cabbage patch.

[@artemisfowl7332]

I would totally buy one. Look right at a reseller and tear it out of the box in front of them then give it to a random child for free

[@jeffpienta4532]

Who's here after the "saber-fart", 5 year old comeback they did, by featuring Saber in the second episode of Red monkeys or whatever that show is. He lives rent free in their heads 🤣

[@chaoticblades2382]

I'm glad you used the gold rush comparison-the most shocking thing for me is that I've yet to see anyone bring up the parallels to the 80's/90's speculator boom in comics. Otherwise known as the thing that nearly killed the comic book industry, the reason superhero stuff is the dominant genre, and why so many books are written for shock value. It's a period defined by: ~ hyping up #1 issues that would Very Definitely Be Worth A Lot Someday ~ gimmick covers (holographic, dark light, etc.) ~ shock value, again (NFT equivalent being including "edgy" elements like weed and transgressive humor) ~ artwork of questionable appeal (most Escher Girls can be traced to this period) ~ dudebro energy ~ taking advantage of the nerds vs everyone else mentality ~ framed as artists taking control of their destiny... but mostly it was rich a-holes doing pyramid schemes ~ unsustainability ~ cookie-cutter characters held up as unique The sooner the NFT craze (and, frankly, crypto in general) crashes and burns the better, though I *will* enjoy reading the essays and theses and academic discourse it inspires in a few decades. I think an argument could be made that NFT culture is dada-esque, but my area of study was art philosophy rather than art history, so....

[@brookewarrington1263]

That's really interesting you bring up the 80s/90s speculator boom. I love reading comics, but 80s/90s was a little before my comic-buying time, so I learned something new today! :) I think your comparison also has interesting correlation to what I've been seeing going on in, what I perceive as, DC Comic's version of NFTs. It's on their own unique platform (similar to NBA Top Shot) called VeVe. I was honestly a little curious about it when they announced the platform. I love buying physical comics and going to conventions to get them signed, and I love chatting with the writers/artists. Not for any time of speculation, but because collecting comics and getting them signed brings me joy :) If I need to play catch-up on a storyline, compilations and/or digital comics are also a good alternative, although I can't get the digital ones signed at conventions. (I have a few statues too of some of my favorite DC characters, which I also got just because I like them). When I learned about the core technology behind block-chain, I wondered if that tech could create a limited mint behind comics. It could even have the potential of getting a "digital signature" by the artist/creators if you attended a convention. Digital comics were the same price as a physical comic, but I wondered if they could do some fun stuff with variant covers or create rarity with some comics having a limited print-run (which I suppose they do with physical comics as well). Not for any type of speculation, but just as something enjoyable for me to collect, and perhaps (with the proper implementation of technology) get them digitally signed at conventions. I mostly watched from the sidelines on VeVe, scooping up a comic here and there that I thought might be neat to own - not for any pricing or rarity, but just because I always think it's cool to have an old comic digitized (I love digitizing old materials like photos as a personal hobby of mine, but I digress). It's also really cool to read old comics in general, which digital comics have always allowed me to do, often on the cheap. But then the speculation started happening. And it is literally what you just described from the 80s/90s with physical comics. I'm now seeing people in forums having the same type of culture as I see with some of the more toxic NFT projects. There is an insane amount of hype, a lot of people desperately watching the countdown for a release, in hopes to mint a rare variety cover. And then once the mint occurs, people start selling the common ones at a loss, and SUPER overinflate the value of the rare digital variety covers. I've seen some covers going for thousands of dollars - like, um...what? As someone who collects comics for pure enjoyment, this over inflation on VeVe has me trippin'. I think people fail to realize that the most accurate value of any object is the relationship between a buyer and a seller. (Quick side note, I've had a good go at re-watching some Antiques Roadshow episodes haha, and it's a really neat perspective on the rise and fall of the price of a physical object, typically based on a market value that fluctuates up or down overtime). As someone who gets a kick out of collecting comics, it floors me that someone would value a digital comic as worth thousands of dollars. I've purchased some fairly desirable cover-art variants online in my day, but it was for like 40-100 bucks. I'm shocked at the speculation that's currently happening over the digital comics. I know that was long comment lol, but I really appreciate you mentioning the 80s/90s comic book scene! That is so insightful to now know that occurred, and it really puts in perspective what's going on on VeVe right now. (edit: misspellings lol)

[@user-Jay178]

True

[@chaoticblades2382]

​@@brookewarrington1263 No worries, it's cool to hear about it from someone more in touch with the industry! (I tend to tune in and out of interests and I'm currently not in comic book mode, even though I love them to pieces.) The speculation boom actually ended, like, a year before I was born XD Most of my understanding of that time comes from the comic reviewer Linkara, who does a really good job at giving balanced, contextualized reviews. A throughline in his work is how speculator nonsense/editorial mandates are responsible for most of the bad writing choices out there. I didn't even know that DC had its own version! I mean, I assumed the Big Two would get on the NFT train (bc corporations are shameless) but it's kinda incredible to hear they were ahead of the curve for once T.T

[@lorefox201]

crypto isn't going to collapse, you goof. Crypto is The Economy, in that the "actual legitimate" economy is a lot dirtier than anything the crypto folks are doing.

[@joshuabowen316]

I wouldn't compare it to a gold rush, gold is actually useful and kind pf pretty.

[@DreamyFlowerz]

The thing with NFTs is that the crypto bros keep saying it "helps artists" but then turn around and steal small artists' drawings and use it to promote their NFTs or straight up turn the art itself into an NFT! Also, the people who are hired to draw NFTs are rarely paid well. Apparently the artist for the apes didn't even know what an NFT was!

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

Not even only small artists. Qinni had millions of followers and her art is exploited by NFTs after she died. NFTs are scummy and amoral And the NFTs are now just generated by programs. Removing art, work and even human touch from "artwork"

[@fasddfadfgasdgs]

I can smell law suits against NFTs stolen art is gonna make people who invest into NFT lose a shit ton of money.

[@spoopyvirgil4944]

@Ezekiel Renon NFT bros also stole from a Warriors Cat manga artist.

[@ironpulcinella3586]

@@fasddfadfgasdgs where can I file a lawsuit?

[@friedgengarz]

My mom once sent me an article listing the "benefits" of NFT's and it was the first time I was genuinely angry at my mom.

[@mangcho_media6974]

In all fairness, your Mom is way smarter than you.

[@kjpearce8615]

@@mangcho_media6974 oh please explain to the masses why this persons mother is OH SO much smarter by promoting a monkey that looks like a piece of shit. I’d honestly be surprised if you could come up with a valid point.

[@Mazin0192]

@@mangcho_media6974 in all fairness, thats not true at all

[@PercydeRoloFangirl]

Show her the song NFT Man.

[@roboticgamer5029]

I’m sorry for responding to this 2 months later but my mom did the same thing. My brother tried to convince my dad to buy some. I feel bad for our parents

[@thegazetteyt]

What I find silly about about NFTs is that it separates buying ownership from the actual item. In most cases, the copyright of the actual images still belongs to the company or poster, but the person bought the idea of the ownership. Its insane. That's why so many people are ripping off others content. They are not selling the item, but the concept of ownership.

[@Zephyr_Zeitgeist]

Cryptoland being a scam is actually the best case scenario. The actual island would be so poorly managed that people could get seriously hurt.

[@TheHattOnYouTube]

Then the scammers would get lawsuits and they'd get caught!

[@saininj]

All the annoying crypto bros moving away to an island away from the rest of us!? Sounds like a win-win.

[@Zephyr_Zeitgeist]

@@TheHattOnKZbin Not worth someone dying of tetanus bc they forgot to bring a doctor and tetanus shots.

[@andrewdiaz3529]

@@Zephyr_Zeitgeist Unlikely Cryptobros would die, but effectively guaranteed any laborers they somehow bring in would. Right off the bat all their plans make no mention of living areas for the hundreds if not thousands of workers who'd have to run the place, so best case would either be boating or flying workers on and off the island constantly but even then they'd have to rest on the island somehow. No way they'd call for medical aid for a worker, no way any building would be remotely safe to step in, so much would go wrong and none of it would touch the Cryptobros since they'd only be inconvenienced and lose their money at worst and pay for airlift out when things go south. Meanwhile all the workers there when the exodus off starts will be abandoned on a ruined island and have to pay themselves to get off or die trying. It's a horror plot.

[@imperiomexicano1508]

The people who buy NFTs are idiots, but those who sell screenshots of NFTs as their own on OpenSea earn my respect.

[@eletvizviz-redux]

thanks for your respect sir

[@mattwo7]

Didn't OpenSEA ban the horizontally flipped bored apes?

[@qsd5413]

@@mattwo7 what about upside down ones

[@sweetkity]

Being someone who loves making pixel art >w> before I was scared of making any art and posting it... But now you dear AMAZING Sir~ have given me amazing ideas and inspiration to make some side ~passive~ money to help pay my rent.

[@linusgustafsson2629]

Collectables is like that. You pay money for it, and brag to others what you paid for it. This makes them think that somehow it has value, when in reality the value is just what someone else would pay for it. Typically Mona Lisa is worth money because people talk about how it is famous and worth money. But you could do the same with any painting by any person. Oh this Lady on bed made by artist who is dead, is amazing and I'll pay a million to own it.

[@KickUpHammyDude]

I initially joined the anti-NFT party due to the evironmemtal reasons, but now I have even more reasons that are just as bad as the first reason. That and I don't want to be picked on for being a "Tree hugger*, I am for the environment but I'm not just all about the environment anymore when it comes to NFTs. NFT "Art" is an absolute disgrace... I went absolutely mad when TWITTER THEMSELVES! The Businsss who OWNS an already scewed up platform, asked for an NFT Profile Picture! And the absolute "Pixel Art" HORROR I saw made me blow up! I see so many of my art friends struggling for comms sometimes on twitter, and rumor has it that Twitter muted words mentioning Commissions, it drives me mad! Plus, I also hate it when influencer fall into it!

[@MrFRNTIK]

Why don't you support the move to nuclear power then? The power consumption wouldn't be an issue if more people supported true clean energy.

[@blastortoise]

That makes no sense how NFTs affect the environment. Sounds like Musk level lie.

[@MrFRNTIK]

@@blastortoise the amount of energy from crypto mining goes up therefore draws more energy from power plants. NFTs don't really add that much more than what was already going on though. Even without NFTs all of the mining rigs people were building suck up more than enough energy. We should be finding new sources of energy, but being anti-crypto because of power usage is a stupid and flawed argument. All blockchain technology gets more and more energy efficient with time. Nothing ever starts out perfect and these morons want to kill it before it reaches its full potential.

[@blastortoise]

@@MrFRNTIK I mean everything is against the environment to some degree anymore, I'm tired of the argument that something is bad for the environment now, we should just work on getting rid of the worst offenders and keep it at that.

[@axel6269]

@@MrFRNTIK Hello. I'm a nuclear engineer. If it were up to me not a single joule of energy would be allowed to go through a mining rig. It's a colossal waste of power that we already have a hard as shit time to decarbonise as it is. The energy industry is a bit more complex than waving a magic wand around and materializing new reactors out of nowhere. We're in deep shit on a global level now: 80% of our energy still comes from fossil fuels, and the remaining window we have left to prevent things from getting extremely dire is closing fast. We don't have time to power stupid bigger fool scams that hog huge amounts of energy and resources just to siphon money out of credulous buyers, especially when the so-called "benefits" of crypto are superfluous if not downright worse than more traditional alternatives.

[@AnikMonette]

Yup. Had to rewind, but around 23:15 I noticed Conny sliding to the side because they were too lazy to animate him walking there!

[@hassathunter2464]

NFT Bro's: "De-centralisation will save us from the evil corporations!" Also NFT's: * So money hungry and scummy they make ActiVision look like an ethic charity organisation *

[@BlueRGuy]

They make evil fictional corporation looks like a saints

[@kenobigaming5755]

Also nftards: shills nfts of dead people like Stan Lee

[@sinnie3801]

I hate how MANY companies are jumping on NFTs. Like, when they first became a thing, you could easily avoid and boycott people that support NFTs. But now literally everyone is cashing in on this...even Samsung is going to be forcing a blockchain app 🙄

[@longislandicedtea6323]

like, on their phones and tablets?

[@marina_ida8172]

Wait, what kind of Blockchain app? I don't remember if my tablet is a Samsung but I do not want that shit

[@Terminalsanity]

Boycott as much you can, don't let this thing find anymore legs that than it already has I know that gets harder as more mainstream companies try to breathe life into this scam but that's part of a boycott. Remove that samsung block chain app even if you have to jailbreak your phone just to send a message.

[@longislandicedtea6323]

@@Terminalsanity vote with your wallets people...

[@longislandicedtea6323]

@@marina_ida8172 I was already planning to buy samsung's latest phone and if that phone has that blockchain app, they can keep it

[@blake6210]

Edit: Troy Baker cancelled his partnership earlier There's now also a "Voice NFT," which is backed by Troy Baker. I'm genuinely amazed that a Voice Actor backs what is essentially a vocaloid for real people's voices. Every other VA I've seen talk about it has started that it could threaten their careers, and it genuinely amazes me that Baker would back it. When he got back lash, all he tweeted was "I'm sorry, hate or create was antagonizing :(" I just... how.

[@Dave102693]

NFT vocaloids?! Wtf?!

[@Marco_Onyxheart]

And it doesn't even come with the software needed to actually use those voices. The software doesn't fit in an NFT. You jsit have a position in a database that says you can use the Vocaloid.

[@who_the_fuck_is_riley5813]

I believe Baker backed out after having some discussions with people who knew what they were talking about but yeah, that was tough when it was going on

[@blake6210]

@@who_the_fuck_is_riley5813 Can you tell me where he said that? I checked his Twitter, and he hasn't said anything about backing out

[@who_the_fuck_is_riley5813]

@@blake6210 Looking back I had apparently misinterpreted something I saw, my bad. He didn't back out of the voice NFTs he apologized for some stupid artwork of him drawn like an NFT. Still partnering with the scummy company

[@WolfyAj-sx8sn]

I'm constantly in fear that someone will steal my art and or characters and try to sell them as nfts due to all the art theft from ether DeviantArt,toyhouse and or ect and it scares me a lot as a small artist whom dose commissions for well not even a liveing

[@shelbybabcock8779]

I can’t help but laugh when I hear about NFTs because the concept seems a bit like something a kid would make up. Like, I imagine a kid going to the toy store and giving the cashier a wad of Monopoly money. And when the cashier tells them they need real money, the kid just goes “it’s real money because blockchain!” Also just the term “blockchain” makes me picture a line of Lego blocks, which just adds to the humor to me.

[@ashutoshpandey3893]

But I just made 32 grand this month.....

[@jacobtaylor7506]

@@ashutoshpandey3893 dude, you nft bros go after any video on NFT and say the same thing. So, you buy a certificate for a receipt to be in line for something someone made up.

[@ashutoshpandey3893]

@@jacobtaylor7506 what are you even tryna say fam? Literally everything in the world works like that, you pay your money for a recept to gain the benefits someone has made for you. Like your phone, desktop, your house, the food you eat. You pay for some benefits someone else made for you. The bus you take, the cab you ride, the Spotify/Netflix subscription,TV that's how everything works. While some benefits can be physical like house, phone, TV some are digital like Netflix subscription, Spotify subscription, internet. I mean at the end you don't complain when you recharge your wifi, saying that someone else made it for you and which isn't even physical

[@xxstar-bluesxx]

@@ashutoshpandey3893 Does it give us any real cash tho???

[@jacobtaylor7506]

@@ashutoshpandey3893 So, you pay for a receipt to brag you are x in line for a made up block chain. You claim 32k this month. How much did you spend to create this block chain?

[@Jacobdalolman]

It's so heartbreaking seeing well-known voice actors like Tara Strong and even Rob Paulsen back crypto-scams like these. It's unjustifiable no matter how much you try to rationalize it. The bottom line is to make as much as possible from those less fortunate and leave them nothing.

[@plutodragon4]

TARA STRONG TOO? Goddamit we lost another one folks

[@Laiser]

Voice Actors get paid shit, so naturally they will gravitate towards NFTs. Even Troy Baker backed it.

[@amandalynn4979]

ROB PAULSEN?! We lost Yakko/Carl Wheezer?!

[@Yoshikage8008]

I'm not surprised, Tara Strong did voice a lot of well known characters from our childhood but she is still a shitty person. This isn't the first time she has done virtue signaling.

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

@@Yoshikage8008 I'd segregate the whole "virtue signaling" thing from why she might be a shitty person, personally: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXLQfmttZ51qaqM Kind of a vicious and pointless accusation spiral.

[@humblemarty]

Saddest part is the NFT doesn't value the art just the coding. Like having a glorified barcode on the butt.

[@ragg232]

Sounds like a scam to me

[@spookynomnoms6751]

Damn,you get the most bots under your comment so far

[@humblemarty]

@@spookynomnoms6751 Yeah.

[@heresplitatom9945]

The best way I've heard someone describe this is that it's a scam to figure out who the stupid people are in society and put a spotlight on them

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

This NFT thing sounds like a way for corporations to cash in on stupid people while others use it to launder money off stolen art

[@MrCatTheBlack]

Doesn't necessarily have to be corporations... Obviously it's easier for corporations to get in on the con-job (seeing as they would have the resources), but it's not just them. The average stand-alone con-man could just as easily con people out of money for clout, or cause mass chaos as people scramble in that market to try and get a big pay-off. It's a bubble that's very volatile and will burst, affecting lots of people as the suckers who were taken in suddenly have no money while those who cashed out right before the burst will walk away unscathed.

[@turma8eac]

Pretty much

[@GJYYNGII]

There is another upcoming NFT cartoon called "HellToon Hustlers." And from what I found on Twitter, the person who's working on the project commissions people for the characters in backgrounds, and then block them later on for absolutely no reason, only to mint their artwork as an NFT, which means that they broke the contract in regards of the invoice and terms. You can't even trust anyone these days.

[@AliensAreNoobs]

I think I see why they have “Hustlers” in the name now.

[@YumegakaMurakumo]

Is that on Fiverr? God.

[@YumegakaMurakumo]

May their cartoon go to literal hell...and POT.

[@bubbs6969]

As an artist that follows many artists, I can say with certainty that the vast majority of us do not support NFTs. NFTs are NOT about artistry. Sure, it's technically some type of art as in its a drawing or an animation or something, but the value of an NFT is not in whether or not the art is actually good at all. The value of an NFT isn't derived from whether or not the artist is good at composition or uses interesting shape language or can even competently draw a line, yet artists trying to make an honest living from commissions are being told all over social media that some single headshot of a fugly monkey is worth thousands of dollars. Not only that, but artists are getting their art stolen and sold for thousands of dollars as some new currency without getting a single penny in return. NFTs are not good for artists. If you support artists, do not support NFTs.

[@sundalosketch4769]

Just from looking at the majority of NFT content, of course it isn't about artistry. The content made treats everyone like children learning the birds and the bees or learning about God. Most of the artwork is definitely not worth the price they put on each copy-paste picture and all of it feels like it's trying to win over adults who grew up on adult cartoons for their whole lives; and win over impressionable children who also adore cartoons to manipulate them into falling for these obvious traps.

[@sundalosketch4769]

@jbiehlable By the NFT shillers? They lose credibility when they can't even prevent near half of the scams produced from NFT's existence alone. They have nothing to really back themselves and their poor life choices up in a positive light compared to actual artistic commissions, where you KNOW they have more soul in their works than any NFT producing group.

[@shelbybabcock8779]

The whole thing seems so Dadaist. Like, in terms of what the NFT artists say they’re doing, not necessarily in practice.

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

Damn, you know Saberspark is serious when he says “fucking” uncensored.

[@ssfbob456]

I explained what NFTs are to a Sherrif Deputy that works at my hospital, and he immediately said, "That sounds like money laundering."

[@Reeses7501]

Based Sheriff Deputy

[@schaab7203]

@@Reeses7501 smart sheriff deputy, he is 100% correct

[@BlueRGuy]

Chad sheriff deputy

[@ArmyFrog]

I’m a pixel artist. I first heard of NFTs from finding out my art was stolen and made into an NFT. I have hated them since I knew they existed, and I will continue to hate them until I enthusiastically witness the day that the bubble pops and crashes and burns.

[@wannabewyvern]

I’m so sorry. I’m an artist as well and I would be furious if someone stole my work. I hope that there’s some way for you to get the nfts from your art taken down.

[@red_revenant770]

I feel your frustrations since my art was stolen too and I almost give up on my passion but let's just wait for our justice and bring back the glory of traditional art we love.

[@tamararambo3079]

People behind the shady CryptoLand, they didn't animated the seagull. They actually ordered and downloaded the Maya software of a seagull from the animator's website without crediting her. She said you can use the Maya seagull, but under the condition, you have to credit her. When the animator asked CryptoLand to credit her, they legitimately blocked her on Twitter. That's the most insane I ever witness of this shady circus rabbit-hole. By the way, Genie from Aladdin and Long from Wish Dragon are the most lovable characters than Conny the creepy coin.

[@noahbossier1131]

That’s Insane and frustrating

[@ExtremeWreck]

That is straight up awful. Like, just awful.

[@aidankocherhans9861]

Would it really be so hard to credit her? What would they lose? Did people think they weren't cutting corners with that crappy ad?

[@iexist1300]

I've also heard that the interior of the house in it might also be stolen from an unrelated virtual tour, since the qr code links to some random guys Twitter or something with no connection to the island.

[@namawa7779]

Any follow-up on this, or it's too soon to ask?

[@theonuss6607]

As a wildlife photographer I despise NFTs. I spend hours in wildlife refuges to capture moments with native wildlife. I'm still trying to figure out what is a fair price to sell my photos. Just to see some trash jpeg sell for absurd sums.

[@EhlistarsWrath]

There *is* a bit of a difference between cars trading and NFT trading- With NFTs, there’s no rarity, with cards, there’s both rarity and exclusivity. Another good example would be Bionicle mask trading, at least back before 3d printing became a thing 😅 there was a limited amount with multiple rare and exclusive masks! So their value was staggering due to that rarity

[@cheezbunni3530]

Yeah, That’s a good point as well!

[@evagineer9165]

@The Real Princess Daddy u serious?

[@serenityjoy1872]

@@evagineer9165 It's a bot. Just report it.

[@Bellitchi]

I could also say similarly about Tamagotchis. There’s a huge market in them, with rare Japanese releases, and ones released from a limited time offer event, etc. but at least with Tamas, you can ya know, play with them. And they have value for that alone

[@evagineer9165]

@@serenityjoy1872 no I mean that Mark’s Nephew died

[@AetherDreamSeeker]

The Fiji one really bothers me because they're destroying an entire island for an expensive novelty and ignoring the local laws. As if environmental destruction and criminal activity isn't already a problem with NFTs.

[@nerobernardino88]

They don't even have the rights to do anything with the island lmao

[@Nicooriia]

This is EXACTLY what haoppened with the Fyre festival, I hope, for the sake of Fiji and the inhabitants, that this is all a scam. I don't wish on them what the Fyre festival did to the locals..

[@azarberries3991]

@@Nicooriia if you dont mind , what happened at the festival? I tried looking it up since I've never heard of it yet but the results are pretty confusing lol

[@stitchfinger7678]

@@azarberries3991 Remote, unpopulated island you had to fly/sail to. 3-day music fest. No food was procured besides Meals on Wheels ham sandwiches and water. No shelter was procured besides literal FEMA tents. Most musicians never actually showed up (some were never told they were even billed to be there) People got literally stranded Some people got really sick and I think someone died.

[@azarberries3991]

@@stitchfinger7678 oh god thats horrible- yeah we definitely wanna avoid crazy shit like that happening

[@digishade7583]

You know what’s worse than the terrible excuses for art that so many NFTs are? The times when the work of actual artists are stolen for the purpose of being an NFT it has happened

Surely that is art theft and illegal, right?

[@TheHattOnYouTube]

@ Art theft is only legal if it's not art.

[@TheHattOnYouTube]

If it's a crap-fest of stolen unoriginal piece of 💩 then it's not art, it's just nothing but a scam.

[@Necroxion]

How about dead people being used as NFTs?

[@TheHattOnYouTube]

@@Necroxion that should count as grave Robbery.

[@alyssamay9237]

Guys, these people aren't spending $20,000+ on shitty art. They're spending $20,000+ on a LINK so they can say they own the art

[@Rakiarmas]

This hole NFT thing is making me both sad and very worried. There's the side of a artist, where this trend is possibly making mass-produced, bad art more popular thus more valuable salewise. This could make every actual artist's job even more harder. Then there's the social aspect, that hurts more, since there is some build up in pressuring to own one. I do remember when following the next trend among friends had some importance during my childhood. I don't know if this problem is still a thing these days, but when companies are trying their best to power this up, we are starting to have problems. Even worse problem is the hole money scamming. In the future, sooner or later, this hole thing is going to collapse. And the aftermath isn't going to be pretty to watch. You among others have brought up the issues of the NFTs here. And people either defend, downplay or even hide the problems, so that their investments wouldn't be damaged.

[@ShinMajin]

What scares me is that even though this is obviously bullshit, we have a frightening number of *really* big names jumping on board.

[@salemcrow5078]

Bruh istg if we have a repeat of the 1929 stock market crash and its caused by the fucking overinflated value of a monkey nft I'm gonna riot

[@darthgalaxo155]

@@salemcrow5078 7 years till we see

[@kurlykayla9013]

@@salemcrow5078 I'm already saving up on canned goods.

[@gandalflotr2898]

This why I prefer Lego

[@nutriit]

I feel no pity for anyone who suffered from having lost their NFTs. Cryptocurrency is never something you set your entire future on. Also you are the proof that good and sensible people still exist in this world

[@PilotTed]

I would say there is a difference with crypto and NFTs, crypto has actual value (though is worthless in a power outage) while NFTs have no value what so ever and any value it does hold was because it was artificially inflated by the rich backers of NFTs who are trying to scam as many people as possible to make as much money from them as possible. Once the scam ends, anyone who bought into NFTs are left with a bunch of worthless ugly "art" as the even richer backers run away with all the money. Pretty much a Pyramid scam.

[@ThreeBeeHDb]

@@PilotTed The way you describe NFTs kinda reminds me of what I've been hearing about dogecoin so far.

[@incelliousthewizard7883]

@@PilotTed they aren't even left with the art, nfts arent the "art" like most crypto bros pretend it is, its just the receipt pointing to that piece of art saying "I own this" even though there have been literally a million ways to make that receipt worthless (like just taking the art down for instance). NFTs arent even good for the one fucking thing they were sold for, digital ownership.

[@loganc.2824]

If you REALLY want a unique piece of art that belongs to you, or even an animation, commission an artist to do it. There’s plenty out there. Instagram, Twitter, and so many other platforms that want to make art their job, or art IS their job, and you can commission them to create something for you. With the money people are paying for NFTs, they could commission SO MANY small artists, or even one big artist, for something beautiful. NFTs are a fucking joke, and the fact that they claim to be art is actually disgusting to me. They have no heart, no passion, it’s just for the money. In my mind, that’s not art. If you’re doing it solely for profit, I don’t consider it to be art, even if it’s a drawing or an animation. If you’re seeing this, commission your local artist, small or big. It’ll make their day.

[@Dargonhuman]

I wholeheartedly agree with you, but the fatal flaw in your argument is assuming NFT art is in any way designed to benefit the artist. They are not; at best they're some sort of "good boys club" where only people of certain wealth status are allowed into their exclusive communities, at worst, they're money laundering fronts designed to hide criminal activity but most commonly, they're online pyramid schemes run by independently rich people looking to get more rich at the expense of less rich people. The art - and by extension, consideration of the artist(s) - is incidental, which is why so many NFT "artworks" look like dogshit or are minted with stolen assets. I absolutely agree though, supporting local or smaller artists with commissions for one-of-a-kind pieces is a far better use of one's money, as it gets the buyer the same thing (a unique piece of art that may or may not increase in value over time) but avoids the moral, ethical and potentially legal minefield that NFTs have become. I would say, though, if someone does go that route, try to get a physical piece of art whenever possible.

[@Ender_Zard]

Hell, as a selfish prick I'd rather commission someone; at least then I get something I wanted and can look at for more than 3 seconds without my eyes bleeding.

[@kaitlando636]

I have 2 Instagram art pages. And I hope to do commissions someday

[@patchworkcreator841]

one time when I was discussing making money from my art with my mom she suggested I make nfts, neither of us were really aware of what nfts were but I knew there was something bad about them, fortunately she meant making prints or commissions or something like that and not actual nfts.

[@Pipkiablo]

A better way of explaining NFTs: Say someone has a rare Princess Di memorial Beanie Baby and you want it. So then that person cuts the tag off their Beanie Baby and sells this tag to you for thousands of dollars. Then you take that tag and go around telling people that it's proof that you own a rare Princess Di Beanie Baby, the same Princess Di Beanie Baby that is still sitting on the shelf of the original owner. And also the tag was cut off using an oversized industrial death laser that generates way more destructive heat than just using a pair of scissors would have and it sets an entire rainforest on fire during the cutting process. That is how the NFT do.

[@xdarkangerx7601]

I low-key hate that this was the most understandable analogy I've seen for this.

[@sundalosketch4769]

"That is how the NFT do." Zefrank1 is that you?

[@FritzMonorail]

Thanks now I can explain it to my dad.

[@Pipkiablo]

@@sundalosketch4769 I'm glad someone caught that reference.

[@sambeckettcat]

One of my major issues with NFTs (and many collector circles actually) is just how much it seems to push the idea that monetary value is the only real value. Like, the only reason to own something is if others can’t have it, and you can sell it for lots of money. It’s disgusting, and it infuriates me.

[@AviRox1154]

That seems to be the end goal for a lot of the NFT fanatics. To create a system where anything and everything is defined solely by its monetary value.

[@tornadodee148]

this is exacly why I dont keep the dolls of my doll collection caged in their boxes. whats the point of making doll collecting your hobby if its just to be left in its box. ok maybe you can make a few more bucks out of it in few years than when you bought it, but personally thats not the reason I collect, its because I love the dolls themselves and its the joy that the hobby brings me and the scale of the display on my shelf as a whole that are the main values for me, not the monetary value of the pieces. If I ever so happen to have a "rare" doll in my collection its simply because I found the doll itself cool or cute ok brownie points if I can brag that its rare but other than that I dont really give a darn, its just another awesome piece in my collection. people should really start appreciating things for what they are actually worth rather than give them a value that those things shouldnt have. or at least the right kind of value.

[@sambeckettcat]

@@tornadodee148 yes!!! Finally somebody with the same concept of value as me!!

[@magencrisis1682]

Dan Olson (Folding Ideas YT channel) made a documentary about NFTs, the culture behind them and other things. Not only does he shit on NFTs, he does it *thoroughly*. It's a good watch if you're interested.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

You just discovered the world of collectibles. No value, other than the one people are willing to give.

[@ChuncheeCat]

Here's a story about my experience around NFTs: One of my classmates came up to me and asked i could draw a character, i was abit confused, and asked what kind of character and for what. He said he found this thing called NFT witch u could make money of, i have heard about it from sabers video around "The Red Abe Family", i wasn't immediately dismissive and just asked into the character, what he wanted pretty much, just thought that if he wanted to pay me for it and it seemed fun to make.. maybe. I even thought we maybe could even make some sort of business, i didn't know how to use NFT(and honestly wasn't 100% sure how it worked), and he wanted a character to use for it, so we could work together and split it fairly. He just said any character and he would like it digital, witch made sense. But it didn't take long before i realized he wanted it for free, and pretty much use MY art to make money for himself. His actually a pretty nice person, and i could probably have said that he would need to pay me, but i thought if he thought he could just get free art and use it to make money, i didn't want to work with him on it, i just had a bad feeling about it, and just said that i'm not really interested in making a character for NFT. *Now i'm glad i declined, i feel like i dodged a bullet.*

[@fenrirgg]

It's not like you make free money from free art, I understand there are huge fees just for putting a NFT on sale, and more fees if you sell it, the fees cost hundreds of dollars, imagine investing all that and selling nothing after? It's a risky scam and I don't think your friend would be able to profit anything.

[@ChuncheeCat]

@@fenrirgg I can see that side of it. Witch just makes the whole thing worse, i doubt he even though of that. Maybe he didn't know how it worked either, cuz i doubt if he had understood how it worked, he would Have seen that risk, and his not exactly stupid, he wouldn't have risked hundreds of dollars. But i will still say, making people do work for free is not ok.

[@krimpfugly]

link me up with them, ill give em TWO free characters lol

[@krimpfugly]

he must not have realized he was talking to the next Stan Lee when he asked you lol

[@andrewgonzales8523]

You didn't dodge a bullet, you dodge a nuke if anything.

[@tristandaries1129]

23:18 I just realised they used this machine wrong. In a pectoral fly, your forearm goes behind the padding, not in front of it. Not surprising that they got it wrong considering this was done by animators and NFT bros

[@abbyelectric]

any respectable animator would look up a bunch of reference before just jumping right in. We don't know everything, so we learn to make sure we do it right.

[@danielbroome5690]

NFTs are WORTHLESS to artists. All NFTs that are successful are professionally run scams run by millionaire tech investors and others are funded by conventional hedge-funds and investors to get the publicity and facade of value that have people buy them. The content, as you said, are terrible because the art doesnt matter, and the storage space is so shit that you cant get good art into them anyways. By NFTs very nature, the big sellers are generic image sets with minimal variation between them. Essentially they are mass-produced art, usually made automatically by an AI. They have no actual artistic value. If someone ACTUALLY wants art with value, they buy a physical art piece.

[@imanijohnson1340]

What’s crazy is these people don’t understand how drastic the startup costs can be too. “Well if you don’t like your art being stolen than make it an NFT first!” Yeah I don’t have the hundreds of dollars for EACH PIECE I DRAW to do that!!

[@krimpfugly]

nft's by nature arent even art lol big ol paragraph of falsehoods

[@lexa2310]

@@krimpfugly I read that that's what it was originally for (art) , but yeah, not anymore. Which is exactly why they have no artistic value and it doesn't make sense that people try to pressure artists into participating. Also makes the art-theft even more disgusting.

[@abdulmasaiev9024]

Yeah I don't understand the whole "NFTs are bad AS IS, but could be good for artists if done right" angle that pops up sometimes. Like, HOW. "Ooooh you can write a SMART CONTRACT so that whenever the thing gets traded the original artist gets a cut" - bitch, please. Anyone who is personally interested in supporting the artist can already toss patreon money their way with no other weird middleman (and incidentally without making the token less valuable for the buyer, who can't resell it for the same price without a loss). Anyone who personally isn't will still be able to just do some form of right-click/save-as. And for mass distributors, the rate would have to be negotiated with the artist and it would be the usual pittance probably, but the usual pittance does get paid out without NFTs invovled, while this way it would probably be even lower on account of the tokens being inherently damaged goods by design. Where's the added value for the artist here, again?

[@higueraft571]

@@krimpfugly They were created, ORIGINALLY, to help artists properly own their artwork and take down reposts effectively. The moment the Cryptobros got their Investment-hungry hands on it, they immediately corrupted it into it's worst iteration possible. So yes, technically, it WAS related by nature to art... Or are you arguing the creator of NFTs doesnt know his own creation?

[@sleepysteev2735]

I disagree on one point here. The main problem with NFTs is not in execution. They're bad on a conceptual level. I don't want a good NFT cartoon. I don't want to see the idea of NFTs legitimized.

[@NekoDrascor]

ditto Even if its good, i rather comission 100 artists. With thr SAME amount of money.

[@rompevuevitos222]

Yeah, i don't want even MORE corporate on the art industry, let it keep SOME soul ffs

[@Aztesticals]

I want nfts to exist only as an official way to track art at institutions. An outsider can't buy the nft. When a museum trades an art piece they trade the nft. This would make a much easier way to keep track of valuable one of a kind pieces around the world. But I don't want current nfts. They are a parody of the original idea

[@Marbo12f]

Seeing Tara Strong shill NFTs and disparage her concerned fanbase was the point in the Zombie Movie where the protagonist sees their own family turned. I was annoyed with celebrity endorsements, but I got to admit that one hurt.

[@bencroyle3962]

Fun fact: Tara strong voiced the baby from Ice Age

[@BJGvideos]

And saying that she'd make sure Sean Chiplock's career is damaged because he was telling Troy Baker that NFTs are ridiculous. What the fuck.

[@MikeAruba69]

@@bencroyle3962 Whoa! No way, really!? 🤯 I assumed it was a real baby all for these years!

[@FlyingEndeavor]

Yeah.. the one with Tara Strong hurt as well.. :(

[@GrantM1984]

They were environmentally friendly ones she's using. Get the fuck over this already

[@Soufriere84]

I just watched a video that did its best to explain NFTs in understandable human language. It hurt my brain anyway. All I can say is the 1st-World better get to work on legally banning this stuff sooner rather than later. It hurts real artists. I frankly feel the same about cryptocurrency (minus the artist bit) and always have.

[@SmoothBrainStuff]

I think the world would be a better place if NFT's became illegal

[@frobot8066]

so true

[@ianmarchese9557]

Damn Right, They Should Be!

[@mjgII]

making everything illegal is a slippery slope

[@Vic_Trip]

Crypto and NFTs should be illegal by the very definition of them being a scam.

[@FezFindie]

Or get a tax on'em. Might hinder some folks motivation on those.

[@Darkasasin80]

With NFT's becoming more involved in Corporate BS we definitely need more voices to push back. If it stays small and niche I can't complain to much but when multi million/billion dollar companies start pushing this garbage to scam people then there is definitely a problem. Thanks for the video, much appreciated.

[@catholiccontriversy]

Exactly, if this was just an ethereum project that stayed pretty small like so many other projects it'd be ok, but I have a feeling the creator of nfts regrets it given how it's probably not what was intended.

[@macaroll]

Yeah and recently, YT's cashing in on NFTs as well.

[@PlongoYT]

I knew the moment that Disney made NFTs, it would be hell to fight back at that point Once Disney gets their mits on it, all eyes are pointed at it

[@neodintchly]

Maybe the unabomber was right

[@depressionbomb]

Honestly I'm quite glad companies such as Steam and Uno have been so thorough with their hate for cryptocurrencies and NFTs

[@LadyViscera]

The fact it’s basically impossible to even describe what an NFT is, really doesn’t make them seem the slightest bit valuable

[@commandercat10]

Yeah I agree also the bots on this site is getting crazy

[@screamingbean7509]

Yeah the NFT and Crypto currency are essentially useless currency. Can’t remember where I exactly saw it but someone said that they’re basically the equivalent to silver/gold currency. They can be easily faked and or destroyed. Which is exactly why silver/gold coins never lasted to today. And with the Crypto/NFTs tanking to negatives recently I’m sure the same thing will happen to that too.

[@Vic_Trip]

Not exactly impossible, just pretty complicated to get around if you don't understand about Cryptocurrency in general. I'd invite you to watch "The Problem with NFTs - Line Goes Up" by Folding ideas if you're really interested in learning about it. Recommend it a lot since this whole talk about NFTs and cryptocurrency WILL impact the future as a whole if left on it's on.

[@Nintendon85]

"You're buying a receipt without a product."

[@battoisoutto6657]

@@screamingbean7509 Actually gold and silver were knocked out due to fractional reserve banking. You can't 'magically' loan out more gold or silver than what you get. With paper money you can. This is why when bank runs happen a bank collapses because banks like JP morgan loan out 50$ for every 1$ they get. Gold and silver are physical commodities with real uses besides currency. Now 'paper' gold and silver is different and that is pretty scam ridden. You're 'buying' gold and silver that somebody else holds and you can in theory claim what you own at any time... Right. Never happens because just like the banks people who do that are doing fractional nonsense and never had the gold, same with gold and silver stocks.

[@justadork9828]

I remember hearing someone stole a dead artists work and sold it as NFTs

[@WAtheAnum]

the problem is: a lot people *THINK* with NFTs they get what is "shown" but those are *just placeholders.* yes, you heard it right. If you buy yourself an NFT which shows some art or gif or mostly something similar, *that doesnt MEAN youre the owner of said thing. YOU did only buy the PLACE which "identifies" WITH it. So basicly: Youre buying a SEAT INFRONT OF AN placeholder with the worth of, you guessed it, nothing* . You dont get the art, you buy a little bitplace on a lobbyline which is worth *nothing* . there *IS* actually a whole video about what NFTs are and this is really well explained, you can watch it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqiwm4ONhMacorM

[@13thKingMu]

@jbiehlable the problem is that only ppl in Twitter support it(which is a place for those who doesn't have life anymore and basically only come here for drama no reason at all),i haven't seen anyone usedNft in other platforms even Reddit lol, they're all just insult it like what Logan Paul vlog a suicide person in Japan and acting like he doesn't give a f*ck about them and keep vloging and talking No one like ntf especially gaming community where they already brought a game with a full price tag on, now they have to buy for a item that they cannot obtain by visual and got a useless coin that doesn't do shit,it is also the fact some game company think "what is better than normal nft? Lootbox nft". It basically a worse version of Gacha system,image you get lucky to get the rarest item and then the game say "Congratulations the item is yours now but too bad we still owned it as our properties". I really against ntf as a worse version of lootboxes which i already dislike about but at least it can be solved if you try to reroll the lootbox for better outcome while you can't with nft

[@WAtheAnum]

@jbiehlable dont you even think with what you said this basicly prooves my point? *every little person with at least a BIT of braincells left will NOT support it because they KNOW why.*

[@WAtheAnum]

@jbiehlable *you dont say...* i know that already. its basicly buying land on the moon or similar...or buyiing WLAN cables on EBay...

[@WAtheAnum]

@jbiehlable dont worry. i did got ya. Its just a shame people still fall for this NFT shit.

[@autolosss]

Folding Ideas' video on Line Goes Up: The Problem With NFTs is also excellent.

[@emiliebennett15]

Anyone who speaks out against NFTs will immediately earn some of my respect. Yes, because of potential hazards to the enviornment. I also heard that South Park took potshots at NFTs, which is ironic considering Dink Doink.

[@JayconianArts]

The Minions Twitter account is against NFTs. We are living in strange times.

[@spiderace7994]

Yeah I agree but if we talk environment wise I'm pretty sure sites like KZbin and twitter are just as equally damaging to the environment. Like, yes I guess let's not add an extra hazard to the environment. Nevertheless it just makes the argument feel weak when you consider how much other sites do the same harm if more. However, it doesn't change how NFT'S are littered with scams, Theft and more. It's honestly sad seeing people fall for it due to someone popular recommend NFT'S.

[@michaelstrong5383]

@@JayconianArts You know you created something really awful when even the Minions are making fun of it.

[@Alice-ib4cz]

@@spiderace7994 I really recommend watching Ten Hundred’s video on NFTs destroying the environment. I didn’t really get how they could at first but it’s absolutely shockingly insane how bad they truly are. It’s awful

[@nise6699]

Watch Folding Ideas' Problem with NFTs, it gives more arguments than environmental damage which is just a drop in

[@thatoneguy1820]

Unfortunately, there will always be idiots who will buy into this sort of thing, and people willing to exploit those idiots for profit. Bad as they are, I can’t really see stuff like this ever going away.

[@Mentally_a_crab]

There will always be idiots in this world

[@screamingbean7509]

Well the saying goes “there’s an idiot born every second” Or at least around those lines

[@FezFindie]

But it can be made less relevant.

[@ExtremeWreck]

Nah, it can go away for sure. Just look at the Tiger R-Zone for example.

[@silversiren7046]

...aww man. I liked Tara Strong. This just ruined my respect for her. A friend of mine is an artist, all she wants to do is paint and draw beautiful, realistic artwork, but the market is full of this...tripe. To think Tara could support that is just...disappointing.

[@cossie8142]

Art college student(s) here, some of us who have actually had artwork stolen and USED as NFTS. As an artist, you'll spend idk 8 hours on an art piece and sell it for like, $20 if you're working in freelance, which is like, "man we don't get paid enough". Making art is hard work, BUT as someone who's done the process, the lineart, the color, whatever-- IT IS N O T worth more than $1000 AT MAXIMUM. $1000 is up there with high quality conceptual art. As someone currently enrolled in artwork, conceptual art and animation- working towards getting employment in Pixar or Marvel-- I can guarantee you that our artists on campus could recreate those pieces/characters in less than 30 minutes. You can commission someone online and get a better quality piece than that for 40 dollars. No, I argue its not a pro that the artists are being buried in money. We all heavily agree that the process and work put into an art piece should NOT be that much. Yes, most of us put our heart into our artwork and its human emotion but at the end of the day you have to take into perspective how long the piece took to make and its quality. After you consider that, you can look at the emotional value. Artists decorate the world. Without artists there would be no marketing, no advertising, no movies, no entertainment, no beauty in the world. What happens when your kids coloring books costs $40,000 a page. Art shouldn't be made for massive amounts of money... the whole purpose is to entertain and express. It's embarrassing. Writers are artists. Musicians are artists. You can't read a book without paying $20,000? What happened to expression Even in mobile games, people are using assets and posting whatever they can to make a buck without putting one thought into actually bringing happiness and entertainment to their audience. The saddest part about this whole thing is that NFTs are putting REAL artists in the dust because they're overselling low quality artwork and talented artists who DON'T value their art in the thousands end up losing profit and attention. Please go support smaller artists.

[@vulpesursae4934]

this is ridiculously well put. please write an editorial to a magazine or something

[@WolfyAj-sx8sn]

Tysm for this it really needed to be said

[@froggieprincess675]

Exactly this!

[@lexa2310]

DO artists even make that much? It seems like you need to pay a pretty high sum to even get the art minted and then you need to hope that enough people get sucked into that pyramid-scheme to make a profit at all.

[@CelticMagician]

Hey Saber, fun little tidbit for you: Dingo Pictures was thinking of joining the NFT scene to try and monetize their digital assets. They wound up not doing so, because the lot of us who have backed their in-progress documentary and other general fans vehemently told them not to engage with it. NFTs are SO BAD that a whole community of people thought Dingo Pictures deserved better. Think about that.

[@RickRaptor105]

Any source on that? Dingo Pictures was made by a few internet-iliterate German boomers. They probably don't even understand that their cartoons have become big memes. So I doubt they have the kind of online presence to have even heard of NFTs in the first place.

[@TastySalamanders]

@@RickRaptor105 My understanding is the original people behind Dingo Pictures have passed away. All the material was purchased by a new owner as part of the Kickstarter campaign.

[@cameronbosch1213]

I agree. I was actually the backer of the documentary that got them to their goal, and I can't understand what the HELL is so good about NFTs. They sound like a legal scam... Oh wait... 😂

[@Mattie2013]

all you really need to know about NFTs is that the vultures participating in it see nothing wrong with creating NFTs off the bones of dead people. Whether it be their art (lots of examples), their channels and content (Kitty0708), or their actual face and likeness (Etika), anyone can dig up the corpse of anyone and parade it around in exchange for money as an NFT, and it's absolutely ghoulish.

[@Jerrremy]

One of my favorite bands made an NFT on a dead member. Very sad. I don't even care that much about NFTs, but that made me mad.

[@zaqareemalcolm]

that infamous nft promo on the late stan lee's twitter account makes me puke

[@alexsiemers7898]

@@zaqareemalcolm and Bob Ross. And the fucking “Floydies”

[@zaqareemalcolm]

@@alexsiemers7898 i just learned about floydies and what the actual fuck

[@ASTEIR]

one of my fav vocaloid artist has been getting their art minted and they were getting hate because ppl thought they participated in nfts. ive also seen some artists i listen to make nfts and im really hoping they see whats wrong w them

[@arty_mc_artist]

There's a community who holds art contests every month with themes, and one recently was I think something along the lines of bird warrior? Yeah, a guy stole ALL of the submitted artwork and put them up as NFTs. Even got his account taken down, but he just made a new one.