What the HELL is Elcano & Magellan? (An OFFENSIVE Controversy)

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@Saberspark
@Saberspark 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why they thought this movie was a good idea
@johntheechidna1050
@johntheechidna1050 4 жыл бұрын
You need to talk about Skylanders Academy
@cfiber_inc
@cfiber_inc 4 жыл бұрын
They were probably smoking that nut pack saber
@mudkip7711
@mudkip7711 4 жыл бұрын
Is any movie you review good
@narottamcecil1803
@narottamcecil1803 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, a true Moana rip-off!
@happybrat8457
@happybrat8457 4 жыл бұрын
They were dumb to do this, it's absolutely horrible
@BugsyFoga
@BugsyFoga 4 жыл бұрын
A Historically Inaccurate Animated film that majorly edits the story for general audiences that isn't made by Disney , now that's a rarity.
@laurendyer2838
@laurendyer2838 4 жыл бұрын
*oooooooof*
@RazorusR3X777
@RazorusR3X777 4 жыл бұрын
Shhh don't give Disnazi any ideas.
@pinknet9811
@pinknet9811 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the animated Titanic movie
@aimee4424
@aimee4424 4 жыл бұрын
@@RazorusR3X777 too late, they already made pocahontas
@SEELE-ONE
@SEELE-ONE 4 жыл бұрын
Fruity Cutie we do not speak of that!
@parker-boy98
@parker-boy98 4 жыл бұрын
Teenager: I wanna watch "Road to El Dorado" Mom: No, we have Road to El Dorado at home Road to El Dorado at home:
@DDoubleEDouble
@DDoubleEDouble 4 жыл бұрын
El Dorado has just as many terrible inaccuracies but at least it’s a great movie 😂
@kaikeakaui6884
@kaikeakaui6884 3 жыл бұрын
D Double E Nah bro, el dorado exists!
@isnortashes3737
@isnortashes3737 3 жыл бұрын
Parker Green just use Netflix
@lunation1899
@lunation1899 3 жыл бұрын
I Snort Ashes r/whoosh
@narniabusiness4474
@narniabusiness4474 3 жыл бұрын
@@DDoubleEDouble El Dorado is supposed to be a mix between Aztec and Mayan while also being its own culture. So, there's really no inaccuracies.
@user-nr5qp7tg4l
@user-nr5qp7tg4l 2 жыл бұрын
here's something to understand why we filipinos aren't into this film. colonizers invaded our country and burned every semblance of our culture and history, made themselves at home, and put us through 500+ years of pain. because of them, we know little of our original language, forcing us to learn the english alphabet and inserting bits and pieces of their own language for us to use. and that's the least most damning thing they did. now they're trying to glorify those people who started the whole mess, acting as if they're doing us a favor by making this film in the first place. TLDR, this is pocahontas all over again. if any of you want an actually interesting show that features filipino characters and filipino culture, try Trese. it's an anime, and we filipinos love it a lot, give it a try.
@Shythalia
@Shythalia 2 жыл бұрын
Not only the show, but the original Trese books should also be recommended to anyone interested!
@bearonthewall7078
@bearonthewall7078 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to correct you on the 500+ years of oppression. It was only 333 years or so, but your point still stands. Filipinos were put below the Spaniards and eradicated our culture and history.
@blueshirezz-2974
@blueshirezz-2974 Жыл бұрын
I like malik the tikbalang
@reginaldforthright805
@reginaldforthright805 Жыл бұрын
To be fair this is a Spanish film so I’m not sure why you thought Filipinos would like it.
@dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970
@dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970 Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldforthright805 Since when does nationality justify the trivialization of genocide and rape of an entire people?
@Kitsueki
@Kitsueki 2 жыл бұрын
This just reminds me of Pochahontas vs the accurate historical version. It felt like they made the Pocahontas fall in love with John Smith fall in love so he got redemption when that's not at all how it went down. At all. They also make the historical figures handsome and charming/goofy as if they don't know they're being racist and horrible- Wh-
@nevaehhamilton3493
@nevaehhamilton3493 Жыл бұрын
Also, John Smith fantasized about having sex with native girls.
@nottuhs5192
@nottuhs5192 3 жыл бұрын
Lapu-Lapu, a badass man, defending his land to his last breath, seen as a bad guy, **visual confusion**
@miri5609
@miri5609 3 жыл бұрын
honestly, the only good thing about this film is that now I want to research about Lapu-Lapu and everything else much more in detail. I'm Spanish and we were never taught about him (i didn't even know about his existence) or anything more than 'yeah so these boats set sail and a lot of people died and then Magallan died and Elcano was the captain and went back to Spain and there were some colonization attempts and massacres and battles in between"
@julien4305
@julien4305 3 жыл бұрын
Miriam MP Funfact: theres alot of misconceptions about lapu-lapu being the one who killed magellan, it was not him but one of his people. He was just the leader
@jadoggoman7120
@jadoggoman7120 3 жыл бұрын
Yandere
@Dewani90
@Dewani90 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea he even existed... in fact I had no idea who the hell was Magellan... the only guys they teach us about would be the British arriving with the Gayflower... and Christopher Columbus discovering America, while thinking it was India... i mean, what the hell was he drinking besides grog and rum?
@enzovillanueva2584
@enzovillanueva2584 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dewani90 I guess they were shy to teach because they lost the fight to people that doesnt have armour or guns just swords(Im Filipino so i dont have good english)
@BrenTenkage
@BrenTenkage 4 жыл бұрын
came for the controversy, left with a good history lesson Edit: [insert annoying comment about the likes I got]
@circleception6026
@circleception6026 3 жыл бұрын
Bren Tenkage yes
@MasuxAnderson
@MasuxAnderson 3 жыл бұрын
It's a win-win.
@curlyhaircupid
@curlyhaircupid 3 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@yuukisama2001
@yuukisama2001 3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@sel224
@sel224 3 жыл бұрын
When a youtuber teaches better than teachers
@Scribbles-hz9ec
@Scribbles-hz9ec 2 жыл бұрын
As a Filipino, this is the biggest yikes ever. This is one of the most incorrect, misleading, and offensive and representations of our history
@annoyingisheep574
@annoyingisheep574 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that philippnos are crying over irrelevant non serious kids show was proving you are so insecure and hungry over worldwide validation. To add you are mere cameo and to the film, if you seen it and not just jumping on hate train
@name-bv9br
@name-bv9br 2 жыл бұрын
@@annoyingisheep574 non serious lmao
@name-bv9br
@name-bv9br 2 жыл бұрын
@@annoyingisheep574 the fact that this video is one year old and yet you still keep commenting shows that you are pathetic. Because you keep whining to everyone that you hate these people whining to a movie. If you don't like hearing people crying here for a movie then go out. It's free lol. The comments are old here anyway, don't expect a reply.
@annoyingisheep2386
@annoyingisheep2386 2 жыл бұрын
@@name-bv9br btw philippino still sucks change my mind
@name-bv9br
@name-bv9br 2 жыл бұрын
@@annoyingisheep2386 bruhhh moment
@Angie-ji7be
@Angie-ji7be 2 жыл бұрын
The best takeaway I've gotten from this video is that the first person to actually circumnavigate the whole planet turned out to be a slave who, in the end, not only got to witness his slaver get absolutely annihilated by Lapu-Lapu, but also got to go home. God, I hope Enrique lived a happy life.
@anapaulapedro7025
@anapaulapedro7025 4 жыл бұрын
As a Portuguese I can confirm that we are in fact, green in colour
@asheniza1168
@asheniza1168 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting...
@user-fh5ms4wg3w
@user-fh5ms4wg3w 4 жыл бұрын
Does this mean you guys are good at gardening?
@As567na
@As567na 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-fh5ms4wg3w depends. My mom? Mediocre. Everyone else? I done
@LuccaZa
@LuccaZa 4 жыл бұрын
Azeitonas da Terrinha
@lonewolfkiller1015
@lonewolfkiller1015 4 жыл бұрын
Can you give me a history lesson
@doesthisIookinfected
@doesthisIookinfected 4 жыл бұрын
This movie is literally a rip-off of Road to Elderado with the plot of Disney's Pocahontas.
@viscountrainbows6452
@viscountrainbows6452 4 жыл бұрын
💯
@asovietplaytpus5828
@asovietplaytpus5828 4 жыл бұрын
@@viscountrainbows6452 this is big brain time.
@mrsinister8978
@mrsinister8978 4 жыл бұрын
Those were actual movies. El Dorado is brilliant, only to be criminally underrated. While Pocahontas is inaccurate, that doesn't mean its not a decent love story with some great songs. Films you can actually enjoy even tho Pocahantas isnt all that devoted to the Powhatan culture. Stephen Schwartz is a total genius btw.
@DoReMela
@DoReMela 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrsinister8978 el dorado is amazing
@mrsinister8978
@mrsinister8978 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoReMela yes it is.
@mobile_player4516
@mobile_player4516 2 жыл бұрын
im from the philippines and almost all kids have this story memorized in their heads because of filipino schools. and as a filipino, I declare this movie, OFFENSIVE
@endergirldragon
@endergirldragon 2 жыл бұрын
As a spanish person I actually feel so ashamed for what happened in the past and how we stand so proud for what we did regardless Im genuenly sorry to Filipino people
@batasgamer8511
@batasgamer8511 2 жыл бұрын
It's okay. Let's all just move forward to a better future.
@kogoromori30
@kogoromori30 Жыл бұрын
People conquered other people all the time in history. So why should Spaniards be ashamed of these achievements? It's not that the people of the Philippine islands were warless people dancing around fires every day. What you're doing is presentism at its finest.
@shang6530
@shang6530 Жыл бұрын
@@kogoromori30 yes, because pillaging, murder, and enslavement is an "achievement". Never knew that word had a darker side to it.
@wanderer4778
@wanderer4778 Жыл бұрын
@@kogoromori30 I hope you go through the same thing and still be able celebrate your colonizer/rapist/slave-master 🥰
@kogoromori30
@kogoromori30 Жыл бұрын
@@wanderer4778 I am the colonizer. So there's no need ;)
@ashsgarden1811
@ashsgarden1811 4 жыл бұрын
Natives: I don’t want to be Christian Europeans: Gun go brrrrrrrrrrr
@mmsixnine9303
@mmsixnine9303 3 жыл бұрын
haha gun goes POW
@Kriisyvu
@Kriisyvu 3 жыл бұрын
Lol gun go *BOOM BOOM*
@arandomseal4793
@arandomseal4793 3 жыл бұрын
GUN GO BOOM
@toastboast1368
@toastboast1368 3 жыл бұрын
HA COMMUNISM GO BRRRRRRRRRRR
@arsn-jv4tt
@arsn-jv4tt 3 жыл бұрын
Europeans: so anyways I started blasting
@cursedcancersurvivor
@cursedcancersurvivor 4 жыл бұрын
This movie looks like a feature length ad for a mobile game.
@TheTopazCactus
@TheTopazCactus 3 жыл бұрын
Then it's a kicker game and I die.
@iwuvtosuckpeepee
@iwuvtosuckpeepee 3 жыл бұрын
J Do lmao it does
@danielagutiny
@danielagutiny 3 жыл бұрын
One of those cursed ads for mobile games
@iwuvtosuckpeepee
@iwuvtosuckpeepee 3 жыл бұрын
Ammagon Oh, Gee, what innocent civilization will I terrorize today?
@thebeanieman
@thebeanieman 3 жыл бұрын
oh my God-
@Moonmoon-ws6jo
@Moonmoon-ws6jo 2 жыл бұрын
as a filipino i have watched many plays that depict this particular part of our history, if i remember correctly. houses before did not have locks because we respected each other's belongings and that woman are treated equally, so when the Spaniards set fire to the houses. if i remember correctly Lapu-lapu said that they were cowards to battle at night when the enemies were sleeping and instead shouldve challenged and fought them at broad day light to show some balls.
@zackyezek3760
@zackyezek3760 Жыл бұрын
@Michelle Yeah, the Aztecs were really big on human rights…
@thelibertyking6735
@thelibertyking6735 Жыл бұрын
Iirc, I read in another version, he thought to himself that they must be savages from the mountains, (like apes, might I add) doing that in the middle of the night. And then...the rest is history.
@HashiNuke
@HashiNuke Ай бұрын
As a Filipino, skill issue to Magellan.
@nit11
@nit11 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Spain and I love animation, and I remember going to the cinema, I was going to watch a different movie, but there weren't empty seats. At the cinema, with my friends, we look out... Is another movie, at these time, at these place... "Elcano y Magallanes" was there. We stare at the poster, and we just say "it looks boring" "yes, and I don't think is accurate" "ice-cream?" And we left. Best decision
@calypsosystem3726
@calypsosystem3726 3 жыл бұрын
As a Filipino My ancestors did not die for this
@cunilingus5023
@cunilingus5023 3 жыл бұрын
DAMN! Fair tho XD as a pinky I as well can reason and respect this WAY too much
@AyaAya-pt1ry
@AyaAya-pt1ry 3 жыл бұрын
We Filipinos deserve better
@prizmarvalschi1319
@prizmarvalschi1319 3 жыл бұрын
The audacity of these people
@clippygoat
@clippygoat 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, imagine what our lives could’ve been if we didn’t revolt against the Spaniards...
@splitatorium
@splitatorium 3 жыл бұрын
@@clippygoat Begone, slave
@marveyzing1495
@marveyzing1495 3 жыл бұрын
directors: oh sh*t we offended the Philippines with the poster quick offend the Portuguese
@claireglover1391
@claireglover1391 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah go offend The portgise if your Satan
@siphobrisloks8133
@siphobrisloks8133 3 жыл бұрын
@@claireglover1391 portugal doesn't exist!1!1!1!!!!1!1!1!1!1!
@susanabasera8256
@susanabasera8256 3 жыл бұрын
@@claireglover1391 did you meant portuguesse
@arthas640
@arthas640 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair it's illegal for any western European former colonizer to get offended about anything. They're open targets, like wild pigs in Texas, you can blast any of them you feel like.
@thepraetor7434
@thepraetor7434 3 жыл бұрын
@@arthas640 How is it "illegal"? Like, you're gonna get fined or jailed for being offended?
@537monster
@537monster 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a better version of this movie would be a Heart of Darkness style of story. It should have been a cautionary tale, not a fucking kids movie. Show these Spaniards dying horribly of disease, show them raiding and killing natives, show them being manipulated by one native tribe to try and get rid of Lapu Lapu. Show the true story, because honestly, it’s an INCREDIBLY interesting story. It should have been like that miniseries The Terror.
@forstreamingacc1479
@forstreamingacc1479 2 жыл бұрын
imagine fighting for your land to have a freedom and got portrait as a 'bad guy' 😐
@rainbowmushrooms
@rainbowmushrooms Жыл бұрын
😐
@zestytriss5282
@zestytriss5282 3 жыл бұрын
Rules of making a brutal history turning it into a kid friendly animated film: Rule no.1: Don't Do it Thank you
@gregpilledd
@gregpilledd 3 жыл бұрын
Disney is laughing at you
@amyd6769
@amyd6769 3 жыл бұрын
This should apply to Pocahontas as well. Sorry if I wrote it wrong. I'm from Latin America.
@joshuagavile4775
@joshuagavile4775 3 жыл бұрын
@@amyd6769 agreed. Unless the plot is interesting and the songs are catchy, it isn’t ideal. I’m with you on that. 👍🏻
@sleepingkitty2539
@sleepingkitty2539 3 жыл бұрын
actually pocahontas was mostly incorrect as well
@troyparks3414
@troyparks3414 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Triss! I'll Make You Videos Please!
@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847
@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 4 жыл бұрын
As a Filipino... I am going to stick with El Dorado.
@garbageboystinkman4159
@garbageboystinkman4159 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, at least El Dorado showed the audience that the natives were manipulated.
@Cakepopbunny
@Cakepopbunny 3 жыл бұрын
Same Even doe I don’t know that
@MBLobster
@MBLobster 3 жыл бұрын
Ye that movie was ak
@AzzyRiah
@AzzyRiah 3 жыл бұрын
My mom made me stop watching that movie because they said hell LMAO
@arnoldinigov.pascual617
@arnoldinigov.pascual617 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too for both parts
@BeegBWolf
@BeegBWolf 2 жыл бұрын
spain : hey here's jesus Gigachad Lapu Lapu : no here's a bamboo spear instead Such a perfect way to describe the badassery of that guy
@ItzZoya-up5od
@ItzZoya-up5od 2 ай бұрын
Lol I saw this comment right at the moment
@its.inkwell6756
@its.inkwell6756 2 жыл бұрын
“Mom, can we have Flynn Rider?” “We have Flynn Rider at home.” Flynn Rider at home:
@SEELE-ONE
@SEELE-ONE 4 жыл бұрын
To think the Animaniacs song is more structured, historically accurate and interesting than this full length movie...
@exavierreyes9902
@exavierreyes9902 4 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@akhimahathir2004
@akhimahathir2004 4 жыл бұрын
so,what episode at 0:30?
@Nightweaver1
@Nightweaver1 4 жыл бұрын
Because the writers for Animaniacs actually did research for their shows where needed.
@Raccon_Detective.
@Raccon_Detective. 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nightweaver1 Agreed unlike the director of alpacoloto.
@lex-pf6qn
@lex-pf6qn 4 жыл бұрын
we're not cavemen tho
@yallareabunchofbruhmoments8998
@yallareabunchofbruhmoments8998 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like El Dorado, Moana, and pocahontas got a little freaky
@juzoinui4627
@juzoinui4627 4 жыл бұрын
This is their love child
@LilacZ373
@LilacZ373 4 жыл бұрын
In all fairness, Pocahontas didn't age will either 😔
@thetwistedsamurai
@thetwistedsamurai 4 жыл бұрын
thank god im not the only one who IMMEDIATELY thought this upon seeing the aesthetics
@Lexivor
@Lexivor 4 жыл бұрын
@@LilacZ373 I thought most of Pocahontas's faults were pretty clear from the start.
@Sashimi_Boy2404
@Sashimi_Boy2404 4 жыл бұрын
THIS COMMENT MADE ME SCREAM 🤣💀
@Ice-ps9yo
@Ice-ps9yo 2 жыл бұрын
Spanish: wanna know jesus? Lapu-Lapu: wanna meet jesus?
@ItzZoya-up5od
@ItzZoya-up5od 2 ай бұрын
YES
@ccccccccccccc2611
@ccccccccccccc2611 2 жыл бұрын
The spaniards are the true villains .. the natives are living peacefully that time, and they arrive and claimed that the whole archipelago is theirs.
@jezdrawz1227
@jezdrawz1227 2 жыл бұрын
Well by peacefully, there were still a few tribe battles here and there.
@horatiusromanus
@horatiusromanus 2 жыл бұрын
@Michelle Still not living peacefully. Believe it or not, native people were capable of violence and warfare. Belief in the noble savage is pretty cringe.
@wubbaddubdoesstuff4487
@wubbaddubdoesstuff4487 3 жыл бұрын
Magellan looks like a fanboy and chum chum character
@LacedWithOreos
@LacedWithOreos 3 жыл бұрын
He looks like budget Flynn Rider 😂
@parker-boy98
@parker-boy98 3 жыл бұрын
@@LacedWithOreos you're thinking of Elcano you idiot
@experimentaldivafm.
@experimentaldivafm. 3 жыл бұрын
True
@MemeProphet
@MemeProphet 3 жыл бұрын
Dont diss Fanboy and ChumChum like that
@wubbaddubdoesstuff4487
@wubbaddubdoesstuff4487 3 жыл бұрын
@@MemeProphet very sorry
@iamthefirstandonlycheesecake
@iamthefirstandonlycheesecake 3 жыл бұрын
“Dammit they still can’t get my nose right” -Flynn rider
@griffinpanta1499
@griffinpanta1499 3 жыл бұрын
Same, everyone can know🤣
@JaggedBird
@JaggedBird 3 жыл бұрын
*Spittakes in laughter*
@Spalbeert
@Spalbeert 3 жыл бұрын
?
@cerealbutexpired6241
@cerealbutexpired6241 3 жыл бұрын
those are indeed FACTS
@chrex.4825
@chrex.4825 3 жыл бұрын
@@Spalbeert it’s because the male in the movie looks like Flynn rider
@jandrobalansag8316
@jandrobalansag8316 2 жыл бұрын
As a filipino, living in the philippines my whole life and having our history taught to us from a very young age(first grade) this movie made me go like "wtf"
@nobodynobody854
@nobodynobody854 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, some people might say that us Filipinos are being exaggerated to our outrage, but one can't help but be angry when the hero that fought for our country be portrayed this way. Not saying that Filipinos were the only one colonized, but I'm sure many will sympathise if their own heroes come off as a villain. And as a quote that I remember, in different perspectives of the victim and the attacker, you can either be the villain or the hero. (Or maybe they're too evil that even their own countrymen doesn't approve)
@goodaimshield1115
@goodaimshield1115 10 ай бұрын
Is portrayed like what? Like the guy who killed Magallanes? That's the only thing he did regarding what the film is about. This is not a film about the Philippines, but about the first circumnavigation of the world. The Philippines appears like 10 minutes max. You are outraged by actually depicting your nationalist myths about Lapu Lapu killing Magallanes.
@decorumpantroglodytes5962
@decorumpantroglodytes5962 8 ай бұрын
@@goodaimshield1115Did you even watch the video? No matter how accurate or inaccurate this movie was, it’s still a blatant misrepresentation of reality sprinkled with racism
@skelkankaos
@skelkankaos 4 жыл бұрын
Company: oh god we have to fix this poster so it doesn't look offensive *slaps on a dude who looks like an antisemitic political cartoon*
@MaylocBrittinorum
@MaylocBrittinorum 4 жыл бұрын
It only gets worse when you discover that one of the insults Spaniards said to the Portuguese during the rule of the Habsburgs was "marrano" (a Jew recently converted to Christianity). I highly doubt the guionists and animators knew this, but still, yikes.
@IcyAquaMarine
@IcyAquaMarine 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaylocBrittinorum As in pig? Or is it an "original" insult?
@jeanbethencourt1506
@jeanbethencourt1506 4 жыл бұрын
I think the fact that you thought of Jewish people when you saw that character probably says more about you than the movie's designers. Lol
@skelkankaos
@skelkankaos 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeanbethencourt1506 has more to do with how many antisemitic cartoons I've seen on the KZbin profile pictures of weird edgy teenagers, really
@shoobymcdooberson7466
@shoobymcdooberson7466 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeanbethencourt1506 Nu-uh, stop. Go find some anti-semitic cartoons. Look at the cartoons, look at that guy. Look at some of the language used in the movie, look at that guy. Look at the context of the movie and how they handle different cultures, look at that guy. Look at the fact that Spain has a long history of stampin on religions not buddy-buddy with the crown, look at that guy. Are you seeing the correlation?
@SamuelEspera
@SamuelEspera 4 жыл бұрын
As a Filipino myself, Lapu-Lapu is a much loved hero. And yes, there was a lot of buzz about this movie in my country.
@jake72002
@jake72002 4 жыл бұрын
mobile legends adds to this
@johnncat2277
@johnncat2277 3 жыл бұрын
Same, I saw the poster of this in an sm mall, and I just went "Ugh oh no"
@JessieJamesTan
@JessieJamesTan 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnncat2277 wait that was released wtf
@phantochu3456
@phantochu3456 3 жыл бұрын
PREACH
@Wyrmington
@Wyrmington 3 жыл бұрын
There’s even a fish named after him
@insanemindset2667
@insanemindset2667 2 жыл бұрын
I know that SaberSpark mainly reviews movies but the way he did that condensed history recap was really entertaining. I would honestly like to hear him narrate more history if he were up to it.
@b0nn135
@b0nn135 Жыл бұрын
Usually, I don’t like social studies class. However, if it was taught in the way Saber showed this, I would be way more interested. It was so neat hearing the true story about this, I had a lot of fun listening and learning more :D
@ISplimeI
@ISplimeI 4 жыл бұрын
All of the characters look like if The Road To El Dorado had toy merchandise that came to life by the souls of the actual characters... /:
@shino4242
@shino4242 4 жыл бұрын
Toy Story 5
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 4 жыл бұрын
Except with NO SOULS...
@gnarly.bulblax
@gnarly.bulblax 4 жыл бұрын
That is an extremely detailed observation that I completely agree with
@Fun-K-Board
@Fun-K-Board 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ I low-key thought Tulio was deadass on the poster-
@chippyp626
@chippyp626 4 жыл бұрын
@@shino4242 Toy Story 6
@elcatrinc1996
@elcatrinc1996 4 жыл бұрын
The Virgin: Elcano & Magellan vs The Chad: Road to El Dorado
@etps4444
@etps4444 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@darkapollo3463
@darkapollo3463 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@wakasagihime2168
@wakasagihime2168 4 жыл бұрын
Yasss
@ofcoursenot9520
@ofcoursenot9520 4 жыл бұрын
you mean Chel Dorado
@angelfuentes7299
@angelfuentes7299 4 жыл бұрын
The best part about el dorado is that all the white people who watch it with me, the Kiche Mayan, apologize for the colonization of my ancestors. It’s fun to prey on my friends white guilt, only my friends though
@darkmatterburger
@darkmatterburger 2 жыл бұрын
I remember as a toddler my babysitter taught me a filipino nursery rhyme about Lapu Lapu and Magellan
@KrabbyPatty99Archive
@KrabbyPatty99Archive 2 жыл бұрын
Was it: - One plus one, Magellan, or -On March 16, Fifteen Hundred 21?
@darkmatterburger
@darkmatterburger 2 жыл бұрын
@@KrabbyPatty99Archive it was 15 hundred twenty one
@KrabbyPatty99Archive
@KrabbyPatty99Archive 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkmatterburger That's not a nursery rhyme, that's a 1972 novelty song by Yoyoy Villame.
@JcDizon
@JcDizon Жыл бұрын
Are you talking about this weird thing? "1+1 Magellan 2+2 Lapulapu 3+3 Christmas tree 4+4 Bagong bapor 5+5 Voltes five"
@darkmatterburger
@darkmatterburger Жыл бұрын
@@JcDizon nah .
@waterPsychiatrist
@waterPsychiatrist 2 жыл бұрын
As someone from Portugal: I can confirm that we all look like green malicious goblins
@v1de0gamr23
@v1de0gamr23 4 жыл бұрын
Sugarcoating real life brutality to make a children's film? Did they learn nothing from Pocahontas and Anastasia?
@manuelalbertoromero9528
@manuelalbertoromero9528 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, but historical liberties aside, I do still like Anastasia a lot. But I am aware it is definitely not an accurate representation of the actual real life character.
@wandererclarisse
@wandererclarisse 3 жыл бұрын
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 but at least for Anastasia, it's not like they were pretending to make it VERY accurate. I mean, you got magic and that talking bat creature. But yes, I do see where you are coming from and I have to agree.
@b4byj3susm4n
@b4byj3susm4n 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, even the fictional brutality of Hans Christian Andersson, Victor Hugo, Grimm brothers, and Greek mythology studios will gloss over or rewrite entirely for animated children’s programs.
@ftgihf467
@ftgihf467 3 жыл бұрын
b4byj3susm4n yes but those were stories not real people who were killed raped and stolen from
@whitethorndeer7945
@whitethorndeer7945 3 жыл бұрын
@@b4byj3susm4n Ngl, I enjoyed Hercules, but it's far from accurate. Hercules wasn't Hera's son. She's actually the one who sent him to earth and tried to kill him, even sided with some king. I don't like how the myth was reduced to a typical fairytale. Still it's interesting how they managed to censor the, uh... Milk thing...
@addisonwalton5414
@addisonwalton5414 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so tired of this Pocahontas/Sacagawea trope in movies where an indigenous/native girl shows up whose only purpose is to guide the colonizers and be a love interest to one of them. Also she always has to leave her home because of course she would leave her home to go off with some random dudes instead of stay with her "savage" family.
@nic.k_o
@nic.k_o 3 жыл бұрын
@Ophelia Tepes they were raped and killed, stop being so delusional
@Sovlstarr
@Sovlstarr 3 жыл бұрын
I mean ya that’s how it goes
@stormisuedonym4599
@stormisuedonym4599 3 жыл бұрын
I know! How terrible that one of the natives is curious, inquisitive, and wants to explore more of the world that these newcomers have just demonstrated existed! Native people should never want anything more than to live and die in the same village their ancestors did.
@pureevil6047
@pureevil6047 3 жыл бұрын
I want a story where a dude whose like an impressed sailor or indentured servant (basically kinds of temporary slavery) comes to some new land and just decids fuck it. Boy meets girl, boy realizes he loves girl more than he loves Jesus, boy defects and helps the natives kick out the other Europeans out in return for being able to stay. It might not be super historically accurate, but it think it'd make for an interesting story. Give us a grungier view of the Europeans before they even interact with the natives. Show that the life of many people in europe sucked. I mean a lot of people came to the new world looking for a better life, free from oppressive European society. And show us more of the natives and their culture. Give us more indigenous food and religion. Have some situation where the defector is being taught how to do stuff by the natives. I mean there was at least one entire english colony that straight up joined a local tribe. So it's not too far fetched.
@stormisuedonym4599
@stormisuedonym4599 3 жыл бұрын
@@pureevil6047 I believe that's called _Avatar._
@ibalonmagayon1822
@ibalonmagayon1822 2 жыл бұрын
Just saw this video, kinda surprised no one knows about Filipino guns and canons :'). They already have those even before Magellan came.
@spaghettinoodlesoup4510
@spaghettinoodlesoup4510 2 жыл бұрын
You know as a Filipino myself, I saw a poster of this film a year ago in a mall theater that wasn't too big. The week after I saw it again, it was shelved behind a dumpster.
@DanielPerez-eo2pv
@DanielPerez-eo2pv 4 жыл бұрын
Why the hell would they try to advertise this to Filipinos by making them the villains of the movie
@ihavenoideaforaname2438
@ihavenoideaforaname2438 4 жыл бұрын
That's like introducing Jesus to a satanist
@isaakberghe837
@isaakberghe837 4 жыл бұрын
Like introducing hot dogs as a fruit
@NileByTheMiles
@NileByTheMiles 4 жыл бұрын
Like trying to get your mom to understand the difference between playstation and xbox
@matthewbergman6803
@matthewbergman6803 4 жыл бұрын
It’d be nice if a US company released historically accurate movies about Vietnam and Philippine colonization. Make them animated too!
@allyshialynnsnormality6266
@allyshialynnsnormality6266 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I'm a Filipino btw... (I live in Davao)
@quixotika3232
@quixotika3232 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you make a child friendly version of this violent story. Its like making a pg version of WW2.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 4 жыл бұрын
Done and done. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqvNhqOgj6qkn68
@fenrirsrage4609
@fenrirsrage4609 4 жыл бұрын
There's probably like a lot of those already.
@windjager2177
@windjager2177 4 жыл бұрын
@@autobotstarscream765 Hetalia isnt 100% pg tho, since its for 15+ aged audiences (the mangas and the anime)
@geschnitztekiste4111
@geschnitztekiste4111 4 жыл бұрын
Hitler's wacky hijinx
@hiptydiptateejack8712
@hiptydiptateejack8712 4 жыл бұрын
Or giving US soldiers walkie talkies instead of rifles at Normandy.
@Sly-Moose
@Sly-Moose 2 жыл бұрын
This is why the show Roots still holds it's own as an accurate retelling of historical events. They don't try to cover up any of the brutal gruesome stuff for the sake of "family friendly". They don't paint the colonisers as the good guys. They start off the show with Kunta-Kinte in HIS home, because it's HIS story, and HE'S the hero of the story!
@Jai6yn
@Jai6yn Жыл бұрын
fun fact: 4:00 Mummy im a Zombie was on netflix in english back in 2015-2017 i watched it all the time lmao
@Emma-th6ev
@Emma-th6ev 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the only accurate part is the green vampire 😎 we Portuguese are all green vampires 👌😔
@Raximus3000
@Raximus3000 4 жыл бұрын
And here i thought you were pale blue.
@n-extrafries-surprise
@n-extrafries-surprise 4 жыл бұрын
@@Raximus3000 no, I think those are Romanians.
@asafupps
@asafupps 4 жыл бұрын
Lauren Perfetto No, the Russians are actually all electric blue, they just look paler in different lighting
@mrnubnub4584
@mrnubnub4584 4 жыл бұрын
@@asafupps I thought Russians were red.
@Kylesb
@Kylesb 4 жыл бұрын
What is this? 😂
@Kokju
@Kokju 3 жыл бұрын
this looks like walmart version of Pocahontas
@cthonisprincess4011
@cthonisprincess4011 3 жыл бұрын
There are “Walmart” level Pocahontas movies- ones that make Disney’s version look like a documentary.
@mariajimenafigueroa8311
@mariajimenafigueroa8311 3 жыл бұрын
But the main character looks like Eugene from Tangled
@cheeseisherelive753
@cheeseisherelive753 3 жыл бұрын
Nah it’s the Walmart version of The Road to El Dorado. I mean Saber compares it to it a few times and it genuinely has similar vibes in ways.
@hatdogka2105
@hatdogka2105 3 жыл бұрын
More like palengke ver.
@nightmarenight3443
@nightmarenight3443 3 жыл бұрын
It's more of a Walmart version of El Dorado getting beat and slapped by the dollar store Pocahontas
@noelia5869
@noelia5869 2 жыл бұрын
i'm from spain, and the only reason i've ever heard of this movie before is because my little cousin likes it. like, barely anyone in spain knows about this ridiculously historically inaccurate film
@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme
@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme 2 жыл бұрын
Porr little cousin
@meh8704
@meh8704 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen "Mummy I'm a Zombie" one of their other movies by the company, I think it might still be on Amazon I thought it was alright, kinda a weird story, but my sister enjoyed it. It had some interesting ideas, and animation was okay I thought. We also watched the sequel, again it was okay.
@yanni9922
@yanni9922 4 жыл бұрын
Me: I wanna see The Road To El Dorado Mom: We have The Road To El Dorado at home. The Road To El Dorado at home:
@datartisttho1987
@datartisttho1987 4 жыл бұрын
Literally what I thought before I saw this comment 😭😂
@SisterInnerMongolia
@SisterInnerMongolia 4 жыл бұрын
lol 0-0
@KinxArt53
@KinxArt53 4 жыл бұрын
As a Filipino, this movie is so historically inaccurate like what the heck?!
@thatterrariaguidenpc8054
@thatterrariaguidenpc8054 4 жыл бұрын
as a filipino can confirmed this level of mockery would be the same as making a movie where hitler is this kind hearted joe who wants nothing more but peace and prosperity in the whole world
@allium2718
@allium2718 4 жыл бұрын
@@thatterrariaguidenpc8054 As a german Please don't make a movie like that
@terreausore2435
@terreausore2435 4 жыл бұрын
@Frizzurd How funny.
@danebirbhaha7520
@danebirbhaha7520 4 жыл бұрын
As an Spaniard, im sorry for this shit
@lqnreki
@lqnreki 4 жыл бұрын
ikr
@TheWitchDoctor-ld7nd
@TheWitchDoctor-ld7nd 4 ай бұрын
3:52 the movie Papa Soy Una Zombi i remember watching the English version all the time and have been trying to find it for ages
@riabouchinska
@riabouchinska 2 жыл бұрын
You should do some straight-up history videos, the part where you explained the actual story of Magellan's expedition was really entertaining
@nekokoishi
@nekokoishi 4 жыл бұрын
As a filipino, I can confirm that the underwear part wasn't historically accurate.
@CandyHatsuneWolff
@CandyHatsuneWolff 4 жыл бұрын
I think you must have much nicer underwear in PH than standard heart-pattern boxers fresh off the stanky junk of a green man.
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Lapu Lapu wasn't even a villain at this point. He's just protecting his country since the time Spaniards had been colonized Philippines for 333 years.
@mmyr8ado.360
@mmyr8ado.360 4 жыл бұрын
@@poweroffriendship2.0 He attacked Magellan because he refused to give tribute. Why would he give tribute to a king he didn't knew? The Philippines as a state and political entity did not exist until the beginning of the Spanish period.
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 4 жыл бұрын
@@mmyr8ado.360 And the reason why Spaniard colonized the Philippines is because they wanted to seek some silver and gold as a treasure. Also, Spain established the country with Evangelism and Christianity. This is where things have changed when the Americans came to educate the Filipinos and civilized them. Americans saw those people as an influence and they're the reason why the Spanish retreated.
@hoori1538
@hoori1538 4 жыл бұрын
As a Mexican, same
@DrewNoted
@DrewNoted 4 жыл бұрын
WHY DOES HE LOOK LIKE TULIO FROM ROAD TO EL DORADO
@fleas.
@fleas. 4 жыл бұрын
Omg he does
@TheToonyloon
@TheToonyloon 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking he looked like Flynn Rider from Tangled, personally.
@anormalguy9320
@anormalguy9320 4 жыл бұрын
Because... IT'S TOUGH TO BE A GOD!
@calebpribyl5152
@calebpribyl5152 4 жыл бұрын
@A normal Guy h e l l o!
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 4 жыл бұрын
Both is good
@darkmatterburger
@darkmatterburger 2 жыл бұрын
ElCano and Magellan has the animation quality of a mobile game ad
@andreahl3494
@andreahl3494 2 жыл бұрын
13:47 Frick, the "boat" did not even look native. Usually our boats have these extra appendages on each sides to act as balance when sailing out to sea.
@stereokuuji
@stereokuuji 3 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@joshusdog7677
@joshusdog7677 4 жыл бұрын
Looks atrocious. The Filipino outfits were not researched at all. I guess they figured one precolonial tribe of brown people looked like like any other. Also just because these were the first Europeans the Filipinos saw it doesn't mean that they were the first foreigners to the archipelago. When the Spanish arrived they noticed that the Filipinos had been trading metals, spices, pottery and other valuables from other sea trading empires like China for decades if not centuries before. And lastly Magellan died because he wanted to show off his bravado to a chief and decided to meddle in Filipino politics. His men left him to die as they watched him get massacred by Lapu Lapu's forces from the boat because by that time most of his crew was fed up with him and just wanted to go home.
@exudeku
@exudeku 4 жыл бұрын
true, we Filipinos have a preserved manuscript that shows the ancient dresses. The "Filipino" here looks like damned similar to the Mayans
@arandomseal4793
@arandomseal4793 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I didn’t realize they were trading with china
@ramonaflores3155
@ramonaflores3155 3 жыл бұрын
"Fed up with him and just wanted to go home" so even his men hated him? Lmaooooo
@isaacgray2909
@isaacgray2909 3 жыл бұрын
@@exudeku There's the Boxer Codex which were filled with illustrations of Filipinos people and other Southeast Asian ad East Asian groups illustrated by Spanish artists. Granted there are some tangents as to how accurate they were, especially their depictions of Chinese clothes, but their artworks of Filipinos definitely shows the movie doesn't resembled them whatsoever.
@opalishmoth8591
@opalishmoth8591 3 жыл бұрын
The fact this men just ditched Magellan during the battle because they were DONE is hilarious ... In a dark way
@chrisppx
@chrisppx 4 жыл бұрын
Why did Lapu Lapu look like a fortnite character on the poster
@sgatcha1443
@sgatcha1443 4 жыл бұрын
Lapu Lapu skin when?
@jake72002
@jake72002 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer Mobile Legends Lapu Lapu
@TheUltima_Werewolf
@TheUltima_Werewolf 4 жыл бұрын
He's gotta get that dub
@fuziontonygaming
@fuziontonygaming 4 жыл бұрын
Damn he should be a Fortnite Character
@fuziontonygaming
@fuziontonygaming 4 жыл бұрын
Jeiku Hosho What about Raid arrow legends Lapu Lapu
@weegeebeast
@weegeebeast 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl when I first saw the character models the first thing that came to mind was Sea of Thieves with the smooth and cartoony textures. Even the boats and the water looked like it came from Sea of Thieves a little bit. (Obviously Sea of Thieves had better water effects and boat models, but you get what I’m saying if you’ve played the game.)
@Jake76667
@Jake76667 2 жыл бұрын
15:02 i wouldn’t mind to have saberspark as my history teacher
@papayer
@papayer 4 жыл бұрын
Spain: hey here's Jesus Lapu Lapu: no
@Gabi-vt4ex
@Gabi-vt4ex 4 жыл бұрын
Lapu Lapu : Here's my spear
@warbossgegguz679
@warbossgegguz679 4 жыл бұрын
For the record, the Jesuit, Franciscan, and Dominican clergy that accompanied the Conquistadors were VERY vocally upset at the subhuman treatment of natives (there are letters of correspondence between them and the Vatican that go in depth about the matter) but since the church began to back out of politics during the renaissance they couldn't do much since the expeditions were commissioned by the crown. On one hand people could get pissed that the church didn't do more in spite of this, and on the other people would complain about violating the separation of church and state. It's a lose lose situation, but the church saw Evangelism as the more worthwhile pursuit in the long run. They genuinely wanted to spread the faith, not conversion under threat of violence. As such, unlike the conquistadors, the clergy STAYED in the colonies rather than coming back to Spain once they "got their spoils". In fact, that's not only a major factor that led not only to Catholicism being dominant in Hispanic countries, but also contributed to Spanish becoming the dominant language. After all, you can't teach the faith if they don't know what's being said or written. Likewise, there are a ton of Hispanic, Latino, and Mixed-Race Saints from said nations shortly afterwards who were readily canonized regardless of race or ethnic background.
@balancemantis4381
@balancemantis4381 4 жыл бұрын
It's exactly like the time I went with my friend to his sunday school one day when I was 10.
@kos2919
@kos2919 4 жыл бұрын
@@warbossgegguz679 in long term it's still doesn't bring good to the Christianity as a whole though. Younger generations saw what colonialists did to their ancestors and shy away from Christianity. That's also contributed to the raise of atheism in current era
@Marjiance26
@Marjiance26 4 жыл бұрын
Philippines now: JESUS
@Rennnix
@Rennnix 4 жыл бұрын
I'm portuguese and I can say we also dont look like green-skin vampires
@st1ka
@st1ka 4 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself, mano!
@brandonwithnell612
@brandonwithnell612 4 жыл бұрын
thats exactly what a green skin vampire would say
@shadowofseattle1338
@shadowofseattle1338 4 жыл бұрын
The Portuguese might not be green vampires... Now the french...
@Nekoszowa
@Nekoszowa 4 жыл бұрын
Lies.
@draculaura_keyblade
@draculaura_keyblade 4 жыл бұрын
on tumblr, everybody called him anti-semitic when they were calling out the poster (i know the character is portugese)
@petroglyph888mcgregor2
@petroglyph888mcgregor2 10 ай бұрын
34:57 ...The water looks like jelly?!? I don't know----the water looks great to me. Great review, Saberspark. Really enjoyable, thorough and informative. Thank you.
@louknx
@louknx 2 жыл бұрын
as a portuguese who has cosplayed shrek 2 times, i can confirm we are all green
@riorioromeo
@riorioromeo 3 жыл бұрын
Me, a Filipino: Our writings were burnt, our Spiritual learners were slaughtered, so many of our people died, FOR THIS BULLCRAP (Okay what the actual fuck I made this when my mind wad still numb how’b I still get this many likes-)
@geegeebelle4149
@geegeebelle4149 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@muscleman5506
@muscleman5506 3 жыл бұрын
All places colonized had lost their history and Culture
@stalinsoulz7872
@stalinsoulz7872 3 жыл бұрын
Aye, Time to repel another Whiteskin.... lemme get my *Gulok*
@polrealfake
@polrealfake 3 жыл бұрын
And the Spaniard says "iT wAs fOr yOuR oWn gOOD"!
@redactedz6146
@redactedz6146 3 жыл бұрын
You know, with what this movie garnered in controversy, I at least now have an inkling of how it feels for such a wrong/misleading portrayals of once's people like with different countries whether it be of a population/tribe.
@bleepbloop8081
@bleepbloop8081 4 жыл бұрын
This movie screams "Let's see how much we can offend Filipino Historians" I watched the trailer for this film (for research paper reasons), and Lapu-Lapu WAS shown in the trailer, except all of his "lines" were just grunts and a bunch of angry gibberish (I'm Filipino and none of those words sounded anything close to what would actually be spoken within the country) . It's almost as if they're TOTALLY not depicting an actual person who was proven to be alive at some point in history and they have an established culture and language.
@suugarush2555
@suugarush2555 4 жыл бұрын
Oh they just did us dirty
@reyi.n.d164
@reyi.n.d164 3 жыл бұрын
The poster itself is already d i s s a p o in t i n g--
@antoverlord
@antoverlord 3 жыл бұрын
Nah it's more this is we can offend the Philippines in general
@ammagon4519
@ammagon4519 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah one of the well known hero in Philippines is just some caveman who killed some guys for an underwear.
@memeshack9454
@memeshack9454 3 жыл бұрын
Ur mad we're better than u LOL
@shezmudraws1880
@shezmudraws1880 2 жыл бұрын
"Mummy, I'm a zombie" has unlocked a memory.
@kathryncelestiana2786
@kathryncelestiana2786 2 жыл бұрын
This is really misleading when infact magellan was a the bad guy her lapu² was just defending it's motherland from its potential danger
@tultsi93
@tultsi93 4 жыл бұрын
Great, now we have a highly offensive and historically inaccurate rip-off of The Road to El Dorado.
@sebwalk8179
@sebwalk8179 4 жыл бұрын
Now with more yikes and less homoerotic subtext and fun.
@SEELE-ONE
@SEELE-ONE 4 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Walker and I’m sure, less memes...
@zaqareemalcolm
@zaqareemalcolm 4 жыл бұрын
I i :o 0: :O
@gothicMCRgirl
@gothicMCRgirl 4 жыл бұрын
KougaTintinFan Yeah. At least with Road to El Dorado, we weren’t following the story of historical characters (I mean, Cortés is in the movie, but we don’t really get to see any of his ventures, he’s just a story device for our main characters). Miguel and Tulio are completely made up, and it just so happens that the story takes place in colonial times, that’s it. It’s hard to adapt the lives of these colonizers in a kid’s movie because then you have to sacrifice historical accuracy for the sake of censorship, and nobody wants that.
@KAXG_DELUXE
@KAXG_DELUXE 4 жыл бұрын
agreed
@sfriedrice4445
@sfriedrice4445 3 жыл бұрын
Your pronounciation of "Cebu" was more accurate than the entire movie
@charlotte7015
@charlotte7015 3 жыл бұрын
true HAHAHAH
@susanabasera8256
@susanabasera8256 3 жыл бұрын
True hahaahahaha
@susanabasera8256
@susanabasera8256 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlotte7015 true hahahaha chain started
@lqnreki
@lqnreki 3 жыл бұрын
True
@reymondrickpico1029
@reymondrickpico1029 3 жыл бұрын
lol hahaha true
@AlexMartinez-nn2cm
@AlexMartinez-nn2cm 2 жыл бұрын
While Filipino people have already spoken out about the movie better than I ever could, as a Spaniard I want to also make a quick note that Spanish media has had its fair share of problems dealing with our colonial legacy. A movie about the 1898 war between Spain and the US for control of the Philippines, Puerto Rico and Cuba was released a few years ago and got criticized for apparently portraying our country as weak. A lot of times, criticism of Spanish colonization and the Spanish empire is dismissed as a leyenda negra, AKA a lie that the British spread because they wanted to make us look bad while excusing their own colonization. Both empires were shit, but Spain in general still can’t wrap their head around its past, both concerning colonization and events like the civil war and posterior dictatorship.
@thecatinthecloud4621
@thecatinthecloud4621 2 жыл бұрын
As a Spanish person, I want to say that Spain has never had a great history in film making (I think that a Spanish film called "Champions" won some international movie price but don't quote me on that). On another hand, we don't treat Magellan like a great man who did amazing things, most of us are aware of what he did. I hope this movie doesn't represent us as a country.
@joanpalmer9067
@joanpalmer9067 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how a non-Spanish related guy is able to tell a more interesting story than a group of Spanish people...
@azulizachan7595
@azulizachan7595 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad that this part of history was taught so poorly to us
@estebanod
@estebanod 3 жыл бұрын
Wait until you hear about Americans history 😂
@artsy.is.drowsy5537
@artsy.is.drowsy5537 3 жыл бұрын
We're not really spanish. We can kinda be considered that but we could also be considered asian or pacific islander. I see my ourselfs more as asian but it differs from diffrent people.
@ramenbomberdeluxe4958
@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 3 жыл бұрын
@@azulizachan7595 Of course it was, much of the European colonizer empires like to whitewash their horrid actions as something that was "good for the natives" and "worked out in the end" and "wasn't so bad" or some other malarky. Hell, as a USA citizen myself, our OWN CIVIL WAR has people trying to whitewash slavery and pretend like the south WASNT a rebellious little wretch trying to maintain the horrid institution of slavery. Neo confederates are like a personal taste of the kind of propaganda that European colony empires spit out, as well as the sympathizers.
@miguelpadeiro762
@miguelpadeiro762 3 жыл бұрын
@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 Please don't use "European colonizer empires" to refer to colonial and imperialist aplogists, since the aformentioned quote refers to a government and most modern governments are open with the attrocities commited in their education, aka not whitewashing history, like the "and the natives happily moved away so the peaceful settlers could build a new home" that was(I think it isn't anymore...I hope so) in old Canadian history books. I am Portuguese and we learn how we started the transatlantic slave trade and how we transported thousands upon thousands of African slaves to our colonies in "Negreiros", ships where slaves were stored like cargo, piled one over the other, in a inhumane way. I'm quite confident the US also teaches how the CSA rebelled to keep their barbarous slave practices, since...ahem, the USA is the victor of that story and why would they beatify the CSA? Again, the biased apologists being the problem.
@1Dispretty2me
@1Dispretty2me 3 жыл бұрын
is anyone else grossed out about the continual and blatant hypersexualization of native women? Of slave women? Of ethnic women in general in these *european meet foreigner* trope movies?
@theprimestskeletron676
@theprimestskeletron676 3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of it comes from Pocahontas, which if you actually know anything about it is a much worse and gross story than disney made it out to be. I dont know if it's one of the bigger problems in these movies given they're oind of inherently problematic unless they're handled really well but it certainly isn't good
@parker-boy98
@parker-boy98 3 жыл бұрын
It's called "Ms. Fanservice", look it up. I'm mostly concerned with it being done to women in general.
@parker-boy98
@parker-boy98 3 жыл бұрын
@@theprimestskeletron676 Disney was originally gonna make Pochontas the right age.
@1Dispretty2me
@1Dispretty2me 3 жыл бұрын
@@parker-boy98 romanticizing the rape & sexualization of native & African women is fanservice....gotcha....
@1Dispretty2me
@1Dispretty2me 3 жыл бұрын
@@theprimestskeletron676 a lot of it even before the pocahontas film, comes from the fact that when Europeans landed in native lands (whether that's Africa, LatAm, or the Pacific Islands) saw women who largely wore clothing they considered to be unimaginably revealing (bared breasts were particularly shocking to colonizers) and because of this they assumed it meant that native women were simply morally deficit & extremely promiscuous (instead of using their brains & thinking the climate in these regions is hot and they have no need to cover up) .....this in turn lead to colonizers raping native women en masse and therefore the idea that native women (African, First Nations, LatAm indígnas, and Pacific Islanders) are inherently more sexual has bled into the general narrative. Look at Chel from road to el Dorado.
@arlynnecumberbatch1056
@arlynnecumberbatch1056 2 жыл бұрын
Spain: hey we have jesus! lapu lapu: bullshit
@Konata_TheRappa07
@Konata_TheRappa07 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this 42-minute long history class, I laughed so much over gruesome historical events
@ceilzoldyck1097
@ceilzoldyck1097 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine making the colonizers as the good guy and wonder why people hate it.
@maddiesmenagerie8853
@maddiesmenagerie8853 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr this would have been beautiful if it took place from the filipino perspective during the invasions
@BlueOvals24
@BlueOvals24 3 жыл бұрын
How are the colonizers the bad guys? Fresh land to expand upon that the natives weren't using, fuck yeah they want that shit.
@suniidays
@suniidays 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlueOvals24 You actually genuinely think the natives weren't using it? You need a history lesson mate
@BlueOvals24
@BlueOvals24 3 жыл бұрын
@@suniidays They weren't gonna industrialize, waste of land just like the native Americans.
@heartstorngrose958
@heartstorngrose958 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlueOvals24 I don't think you can know what they were going to do, and calling a group of people a "waste of space" is pretty bigoted, and technically racist too.
@aceayasaki5685
@aceayasaki5685 3 жыл бұрын
As a Filipino, This was considered as a stain in our history (in our school) because there's a LOT of things that was misleading and historically incorrect... A LOT of people died that day and it wasn't made clear enough and that outraged a lot
@ticcitoasty
@ticcitoasty 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spellbook y’all aren’t even trying anymore huh
@BritAltie
@BritAltie 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spellbook Bait
@deo.
@deo. 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spellbook which KKK, there are two of em
@rosbin56
@rosbin56 2 жыл бұрын
@@deo. the good one
@mechanikalbull5626
@mechanikalbull5626 2 жыл бұрын
During that time before the westerners arrived most probably your islets are uninhabited jungles and when native people decided to live there, they are only living on their tiny bubble. Complex society formed when the Europeans arrived and gave you hispanic surnames (which you used to falsely claim you have european ancestry 🤣 but you are 101% austronesian), religion, tax system, education, alphabets, literature, sense of nationalism so that your divided archipelago and people united under one flag. If not for Spain you are one of the province of indonesia and bends 4 times a day to mecca lol 🇪🇸 🇪🇸 🇪🇸
@rubenasandwich2842
@rubenasandwich2842 2 жыл бұрын
The "Christan" chief (in irl) was probably thinking of how to take care of two birds with one stick... Though he only hit one bird
@dragonpandabearmeme8136
@dragonpandabearmeme8136 Жыл бұрын
after i watch the movie El Cano and Magellan, i cried.. they portray Magellan as a hero who sacrifice himself and left behind to save his men while Lapu Lapu cowardly throw a spear at him in the leg and he approach the dying magellan, ganging up on him while he was alone and they cowardly butchered him like a savage animal! in real life, Lapu Lapu protected his people and his families. without Lapu Lapu, many filipinos would not had been born and he did what he had to do so that our generation lives! Lapu Lapu is no coward who throws spear at your back, he was a national hero who protected his descendants, us filipinos!! 😡😡
@jennypai1776
@jennypai1776 4 жыл бұрын
Magellan's translator was actually Malaccan slave who was rechristened as Enrique. No local girl stepped up and translated Cebuano to Spanish
@kos2919
@kos2919 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the logic was mind boggling. The tribe never met with Spanish people and suddenly one girl can speak Spanish? Who wrote this movie? Drunk Spaniards?
@dakotaadams3418
@dakotaadams3418 4 жыл бұрын
Needed a cliche romantic interest
@maestromouse2578
@maestromouse2578 4 жыл бұрын
@@dakotaadams3418 True, but this is sloppy even with this movie's standards. I had to rewatch that part of the video because I thought I misunderstood something.
@guillermodebaskerville7117
@guillermodebaskerville7117 4 жыл бұрын
They needed to put a love interest somewhere
@aliceyagami8260
@aliceyagami8260 4 жыл бұрын
@@kos2919 you need moana bootleg in your movie bro
@aidanfarnan4683
@aidanfarnan4683 4 жыл бұрын
I... I now actually really want a dark HBO series on this where the Spanish scenes are directed and cast my a spanish director, and the Filipino scenes are directed an cast by a Filipino director. That would be cool as shit.
@miri5609
@miri5609 3 жыл бұрын
Now I really want that too :0
@eggber9039
@eggber9039 3 жыл бұрын
yoo that would be so cool
@alishaanimations3058
@alishaanimations3058 3 жыл бұрын
Make it happen dude 😌
@eleventwelve2650
@eleventwelve2650 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if that would work, history is blood deep within us and it would be hard to depict history if the history don't match up or there's something the other party wants to hide.
@giyuus5239
@giyuus5239 3 жыл бұрын
As a Filipino, I would say we would be really spitting the facts and being shady all about the *shit* we’ve experienced for 333 years with all that injustice, abusiveness, slavery, racism we have experience that without a doubt they have sugarcoated.
@jacintoemmanuelp.desiatco9290
@jacintoemmanuelp.desiatco9290 2 жыл бұрын
This film is historically accurate, the Portuguese were actually goblins who evolved into humans.
@foxowar3953
@foxowar3953 2 жыл бұрын
4:01 the fact that I loved that movie when I was younger-
@l.g3704
@l.g3704 4 жыл бұрын
This movie: Hey, can i copy your homework? Moana, Esmeralda, Flynn Rider, and Tulio: Yes, but change a few things so its not obvious This movie: Okay
@kaiwaii3859
@kaiwaii3859 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Pocahontas
@Dumbledoresarmy13
@Dumbledoresarmy13 4 жыл бұрын
And Murdoc from Gorillaz
@ZenoDLC
@ZenoDLC 4 жыл бұрын
Not much changed, mostly just remixed
@exudeku
@exudeku 4 жыл бұрын
Filipinos: (being mocked) also Filipinos: you entered the shadow realm, paré
@jake72002
@jake72002 4 жыл бұрын
must extinguish the heresy
@JohnAethelredCruz
@JohnAethelredCruz 2 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone, another Filipino here dropping by since I saw this video in my recommendations, I really like what SaberSpark has done in this video, to the pronounciations of our heroes to telling the history of what happened in 1521, hell we have a different movie showing the Philippine-American War called "General Luna", and it's free to watch here on KZbin, just search it up, you won't regret it =)
@user-dx5er8cc4i
@user-dx5er8cc4i Жыл бұрын
4:01 this is so nostalgic pls 😭 I'm not even from Spain but I remember watching it on Tv
@dio44492
@dio44492 4 жыл бұрын
studio: **makes a racist historically inaccurate poster** filipinos: 🔃
@yellowbanana4090
@yellowbanana4090 3 жыл бұрын
Ight late reply but a genius comment
@Scrofar
@Scrofar 4 жыл бұрын
Disney's Pocahontas: "we're totally based on a real event that involves Europe meeting natives of another continent" Elcano & Magellan: "hold our facts"
@masterj2cool2000
@masterj2cool2000 4 жыл бұрын
Shit, most disney movies altogether
@ashkitt7719
@ashkitt7719 4 жыл бұрын
Spoilers: Lapu-Lapu kills Magellan
@steammachine3061
@steammachine3061 4 жыл бұрын
Except pocahontas was pre teen? i believe when john smith met her. And he took her back to england coz he was a dirty old man. Iv see her grave. She burried in gravesend
@molcatz9634
@molcatz9634 4 жыл бұрын
@@steammachine3061 actually it was john rolfe took her to England, married her when she was 17, paraded her around England as the "civilized savage, and she died of some unknown disease at 21.
@littleoreo7717
@littleoreo7717 4 жыл бұрын
Both of them are historically inaccurate but Elcano and Megallan is way much insulting tho.
@fiolabansigan2611
@fiolabansigan2611 11 ай бұрын
As a filipino, I am watching this during our independence days I swear if i ever saw this airing on GMA or ABSCBN I am smashing our TV onto our front lawn
@DeathMetalDerf
@DeathMetalDerf 11 ай бұрын
I don't blame you, this is pure garbage.
@neilprice513
@neilprice513 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly this Spanish animation studio is one of those that Supermarkets and other retailers, in other countries, sell their movies as cheap kids film DVD filler for their stores.
@chippyp626
@chippyp626 4 жыл бұрын
*_Clash of Clans, Rapunzel, The Lord of the Rings, the Hunchback of Notre Dame, the Road to El Dorado, and Moana; THE CROSSOVER_*
@renz1013
@renz1013 3 жыл бұрын
@Nicolas wait till some one gets wooshed
@lpsquestie3495
@lpsquestie3495 3 жыл бұрын
And Pocahantis (I'll find the correct spelling later)
@ch-mn8tz
@ch-mn8tz 3 жыл бұрын
The spanish: Here's Jesus❤ Lapu-Lapu: No❤
@Aodhan_Raith
@Aodhan_Raith 3 жыл бұрын
According to my Filipino friend, he straight up lopped off his head apparently.
@parker-boy98
@parker-boy98 3 жыл бұрын
I think that some just about everyone's reaction to door-to-door missionaries
@robbiewalker2831
@robbiewalker2831 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aodhan_Raith So he did it similar to how David defeated Goliath. Once he's dead, his head was cut off as proof.
@JugglerBean
@JugglerBean 3 жыл бұрын
Except that's not why they fought. Lapu Lapu was a pirate. His brother-in-law was asking Magellan to help him against Lapu Lapu. Both sides are just bad at trying to glorify these 2. They're both horrible.
@VladGrim
@VladGrim 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aodhan_Raith Not sure about that, Lapu-Lapu didn't personally kill Magellan, his warriors did. (I'm Filipino)
@Jaime0007
@Jaime0007 2 жыл бұрын
3:08 it so funny that he apologized for kinda saying lapu-lapu wrong while at the same time saying "Mallelan" through the whole video lol
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