Bolton Strid low water 3

Still spooky.

[@naroon5455]

On days like these I wish they could deploy a temporary dam to briefly drain the strid, then take scans of the entire bottom. That way they could make 3D simulations of different water levels just to show how crazy The Strid gets down there when it's full.

[@jmr1068204]

The only realistic way would be to pump down water from one of the little 'pool' areas just upstream from the waterfall of The Strid itself. Too much money to dam it off and redirect...way too much earth and rocks to move and since it is privately owned, they don't care to bother with it. Lots of pumps and very long pipes/hoses nailed to the ground with metallic u-shaped holders to keep them from moving out of place. The youtube Jack A Snacks sent a camera down dozens of feet and saw a lot of overhangs extending down. I saw a stalactite under there that probably holds some interesting fossils. There were some rather curious looking objects on the bottom, as well. We also know that the current goes down likely to the very bottom, so it would be very dangerous to send anyone down in person. A pole system would have to be implemented to just drop down vertically and do 360 degree scans. All of that would of course cost millions to do.

[@swiftyblueredblue715]

You can do it anyway with multibeam sonar. Wouldn't need any dams or anything. Easily doable

[@jmr1068204]

@@swiftyblueredblue715 I don't know that much about sonar other than the basics, but the youtuber Jack A Snacks used a couple of different sonar ball types and stuck it out over the middle of the water to get depths. The depths varied wildly and many people speculated that sonar won't work due to the currents/billions of bubbles that go all the way down to near the bottom. I remember some of the measurements were 90+ meters (270 feet), which most people feel is considerably excessive given that he also dropped a camera down on a cable that went down for dozens of feet. I saw a lot of the rock shelves under there, what looked like a massive stalactite, lots of artifacts thrown in over the years and such. He got to the 'bottom'...but hard to say if it was the true bottom or just a shelf ledge. Still, he put it down in the middle area, so it should have been the bottom. Previous sources have also claimed about 90 feet or so, so the sonar ball seemed wildly off. At the same time, the second sonar ball gave similar numbers.

[@swiftyblueredblue715]

@@jmr1068204 yeah I've seen those videos. It was a pretty good effort just for some content. I enjoyed it! Uts supposed to be insanely deep at some parts like you say. There's an insanely expensive (not really public use) type of sonar similar to the one that guy had on YT, but its more for scientific research / military use etc. It maps underwater areas very precisely with a range of about 80km 360°. It would be good if there was a way to get in touch with people with this equipment so they could give it a whirl. I'd love to see it in all of its glory. Imagine some of the tunnel systems that have been carved out under there over the years

[@bloodymary12100]

This is what i have been talking about on different channels.Dam it up redirect the water drain the strid that way people can actually go down there and safely explore and map the topography of the river bed.

[@Rroff2]

Many years ago as a child I sat on the bit you are standing on at 9:27 with my legs in the water and people were taking running jumps over... I shudder to think about it now.

[@michellesharp211]

I really appreciate this video. It gives a good insight about what's happening under that calm surface. There are some powerful currents swirling about to do all that work.

[@jennifers.8255]

This is my favorite water formation. It's just so fascinating.

[@ghostlight1]

I’m very familiar with this terrifying stretch of water as I’ve hiked a lot around Bolton Abbey/Barden/Appletreewick. I live in Skipton, 6 miles away. Or, as I like to call it, Minimum Safe Distance.

[@hkk210]

I wouldn't go anywhere near that absolute death machine. 100% fatal to fall in.

[@rhobot75]

Thank you. Very cool video. Great peering shot early on, straight down and the sun shown on golden sand bottom. ..Or so I remember! The cuts and swirls are so expressive. I liked that panorama after 12.53.

[@jamidavis8043]

Thanks for posting this informative video. I am fascinated by this stretch of river, although I'll most likely never get the chance to visit in person.

[@youarewhatyoudo...8955]

The water appears to be low but it is not..there are several whirlpools in that small stretch of water and they are tremendously powerful to suck down anything. It is clear that the water body expands under the rocky edges very broadly..delving directly down helps but exploring the width of the river down that stretch would uncover all the secrets...

[@josephinebennington7247]

To get really serious and workmanlike…Pick a low water day. Set up a scaffold across the selected section of the Strid. Then like drilling an oil well, add sections to lengths of scaffold poles, then lower them vertically. Fix go-pro and lighting to the bottom end of course. The weight and strength of the contraption will help steady the boom.

[@Sableagle]

That's not a bad idea! I'd scaffold the full length though. The harder it is to roll the scaffolding the less likely you are to come off it.

[@snafufubar]

Or use a kettle bell, some wire rope, and a gopro with strong lighting. There's another youtube where he used a sonar system and parts were 60m deep. A lot of scaffolding poles for that.

[@josephinebennington7247]

@@snafufubar I’ve watched all of them. That’s why I suggested getting hefty and serious, if you really want to know what’s down there.

[@PSYbuse]

Oh yes. This is the content I was looking for. 👍

[@fly89]

crazy to see the water is drilling some rocks .. what a current and disturbance.

[@marktwaine9344]

wondering if there are caverns at the bottom, that could account for the 'breathing'...'pockets' too I'm sure...

[@grahambloodworth4770]

From what I understand some trained divers have been in, they reported underwater caves.

[@bizbizley]

Fabulous. Such an eerie and ‘Satanic’ place. I can’t look at it without thinking it’s a version of ‘The gates of Hell’! I have no religious leanings at all incidentally. Most streams and rivers and brooks ‘babble’. It’s as though The Strid ‘spits’. 👺

[@jannenreuben7398]

Nice work, just goes to show how treacherous that place is under the water. I wonder how far it goes down beyond the level you see here?

[@ianhallett6174]

There is another vid on here I watched last night were a guy used sonar to measure the depth and in its deepest point it was 65 meters!

[@Sharpshooter99100]

100m. radar and sonar verified

[@Hardrock1a]

Have they ever blocked or diverted the river upstream to get a better look into the contours? I know nothing about the geography of the area or anything like that.

[@ginmar8134]

Look how undercut those banks are!

[@johnbarroll1120]

How deep is it at each point? Why so turgid/tea colored?

[@michaelhasse2568]

What a absolutely bizarre small river, a million places to get trapped although the fish say, what danger, I can go anywhere

[@CJCon885]

Even with it being low. That water looks like it still ripping through there!! Wonder why it’s low to begin with.

[@jmr1068204]

Rather than damming it off (which would be massively expensive), they could get a bunch of gasoline powered pumps and put them in an area deep enough upstream with little current. There are some rounded pool areas with no visible swirls. It should be on a day when the water level is low during a drought period on a very sunny day so that they can see what they are doing (yes, I know that the water is moss-colored). Metal pipes sticking into the water as far down as they will go and then held in place in the dirt with anchors to keep the pipes from moving. Attach a lot of pumps to them. The rest of the pipe could be angled off parallel to the banks and pumped far downstream using a bunch of connected hoses. There are gasoline powered pumps that can pump 5,000 gallons per MINUTE or about 83 gallons per second. To even make any difference, you would need a good 30-50 of them going at once. With just 30 pumps going at once, that's kicking out 2,490 gallons per SECOND or 149,400 gallons per MINUTE. In one hour, those pumps would have drained 9 million gallons to the lower side. There should be somewhere further down where the water could be discharged in past The Strid without running uphill into The Strid area itself. What would this require? Lots of money, a number of employees and a scientific team in place to map 360 degrees and 3D inside of the strid within a fairly short time period. You would also need a crapload of gas on-site for the pumps and 2-3 people available to fill them up quickly and start them pumping again in the event of running out of gas. This is the most logical way that I can think of to have a peek down there. I would certainly NOT recommend anyone going down there even if we could get the bottom water level to a foot deep in The Strid itself. No safety compromised, ever. There could be a number of pump failures at once that would send a ridiculous amount of water down into The Strid to drown them. It's not worth risking anyone's life. The Strid itself isn't that long, so this isn't unreasonable.

[@mrsusan5672]

You went to an awful lot of effort here that just wasn't necessary.

[@jmr1068204]

@@mrsusan5672 Every hobby is unnecessary. KZbin itself is unnecessary. Even your own comment was unnecessary in and of itself.

[@dianefarley37]

That river is a bad boy. A REAL bad boy! 😨😱 Is there a safe stretch of this river for swimming?

[@maxr.mamint8580]

Yes, the "Strid" is just a section of the River Wharf. Further downstream and upstream it is not as dangerous. It's the nature of the rock formation that it is passing through right there that gives that section its characteristics.

[@rayunited2010foryou]

So deceiving it's scary.

[@Sharpshooter99100]

not a good place for a cooling off dip. take note everyone. Awesome video of the amazing natural feature

[@peterchapman3740]

Iwill say now one day could be a very long time one side will cave because of the water eroding underneath

[@Sableagle]

Been happening for thousands of years. I think the same gritstone layer forms the Cow and Calf rocks on Ilkley Moor and Surprise View on Otley Chevin to the south, so the glacier did carve through it but ever since the ice retreated the water's been washing sandstone out from underneath it. I hope nobody's standing on it when it goes.

[@foylad4862]

Scary power, i threw a rock in about the size of a fist on the rapid bit at the beggining, it travelled about a meter before it sank.

[@breadandcircus1]

You go near the river, no concerns. Reckless.

[@puggins1]

how deep is the deepest point in the strid?? and where is the most dangerous point??

[@Sableagle]

There's an information board nearby that says it's 9 m deep, and it's hard to say what part's the most dangerous. The top end where the river's flowing _downward_ is obviously scary, just below that where the water's foamy and less dense so things would sink through it into that undertow is slightly less obviously scary but still visibly "not just water" and then there are the places where it looks like you can jump across, which are dangerous because they're the places people try and sometimes fail. I'd guess it's most dangerous at the top. You could start downstream at the bend / island (depending on water level) and work your way up with SCUBA gear, and it would get worse and worse as you went upriver toward that waterfall. There are, presumably, still big boulders down there from where the sides fell in at what used to be the bottom, so it's dangerous beyond where it's narrow. jack a snacks had a go at filming underwater with a camera and a light on a pole, and it got kind of beaten up down there: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYGyaJaufa-arNk

[@puggins1]

@@Sableagle thank you for reply, just saw another vid claiming it could be up to 200ft. deep below the falls, truly an amazing but deadly treat of nature, deadly beauty is the best!!!

[@RosinDaddy5280]

Over 60 meters

[@lindaarchinal9008]

@@Sableagle jack also did sonar scan 2 different times. It’s very deep.

[@goiterlanternbase]

@@lindaarchinal9008 Sonar tells shit in moving water🙄 Imho the 9m are exaggerated. Based on the flow, 3-5 is more reasonable.

[@erichughes284]

This would be a good time to kayak down that section

[@Sableagle]

I think you'd do better kayaking right over it in flood, but then of course you'd have to deal with quite a low bridge down by the Abbey.

[@Bulb_NationBTW]

why is the water always brown?

[@josephinebennington7247]

Peat

[@daveyboy6985]

Shame the water is not crystal clear.

[@hugoagogo4324]

So what's the depth of that ?

[@Sableagle]

There's an information board farther back from the water's edge saying nine metres. The channel's wider at the bottom, where it's soft sandstone again. I think the layer of gritstone that produced this feature is the same layer as is seen at Surprise View above Otley and in the Cow And Calf Rocks on Ilkley Moor. You can see there how it forms big chunks rather than eroding smoothly like sandstone, so the river's gone between chunks and cut a canyon in the sandstone below them. Then they fall into it. How far back upriver the undercut extends is an interesting question that'd need specialist equipment to answer.

[@johnnycotrel7413]

I don't blame you for not going close to the edge considering even if the water is low there are areas there that push over 200ft deep so even if it shows its down 8ft that isn't enough to make it safe.

[@thealternativeview2692]

The gorge is around 30ft deep so the water is around 20-25ft deep. Which is very deep for a stream 6ft across. But people, especially foreigners who've never even been there, are in fantasy land with tales of 200ft and 300ft deep. Pure fantasy.

[@johnnycotrel7413]

@@thealternativeview2692 Hey dummy first of all i took the depths that were told by the clip i watched and it was in meters i believe so i converted them to feet and thats what i came up with. How would you know how deep it is no more than anyone else. You didn't go down in and touch bottom anywhere in there so don't bother thinking you know everything and come back from fantasy land.

[@clivechandler8817]

Could be ground elder I think it looks like ground elder.

[@deathbysnusnu1970]

Time to pan for gold in those swirly gravel filled holes. If you find black sand, you have a 50/50 chance of finding gold!

[@dr.emilschaffhausen4683]

Just simply no reason to believe it would be a hundred or more feet and any particular area. I can imagine being fairly deep from erosion but not nearly a hundred.

[@juliaannepark]

Stay safe. Don’t go to close to the edge and please wear a life jacket!!!

[@alainlalonde]

Don't be fooled

[@user-mv1yy9qx2g]

Just get a bunch of dynamite, and blow it up, when the dust settles go down n have a look see mate, if need be blast it again and you will get to see the bottom n tell how deep it was.

[@Sableagle]

That'd be desecrating a lot of graves.

[@user-zp7jp1vk2i]

nasty looking terrain; how about informing the world where this is, as in what country??? Australia? UK? S. Africa?

[@Sableagle]

In England, in the UK, at 54.003711, -1.903124

[@dirkbruere]

Just rope up and go for a paddle

[@livingonthetyne]

What you recording with a potato? Haha 😅 good to see the river at very low levels but a new camera might be in order haha.

[@clivechandler8817]

They are rasins not currants.

[@shawncovell3953]

I seen a video of this guy that lived near the Amazon river. Fished it his whole life. He jumps in the Amazon river at raging flow rates. Barefoot Ed and shorts. Comes out with a fish caught bare handed. I think he would laugh at this river

[@rich3222]

The owners sound like a group of grumpy old men of a comitee that have no interest in allowing anyone to do anything with it let alone re dirrecting the water for thousands of peoples curiosity

[@michaelarrowood4315]

Jesus, this is like watching "The Blair Witch Project" - hold the camera still, mate. Seriously, has no one with any scientific credentials ever actually investigated and explored THE STRID, the world's most dangerous spot? It just seems like there ought to be some way to nail down exactly what it is, how deep it is, how it functions, and what the specific geology involved is. I can never find anything except these amateur films full of amateur observations, not to mention shaky handheld cams and terrible resolution. Come on, Britain! Is this the best you can do with the world's most dangerous spot? Seriously.

[@Sableagle]

If you check out "low water 2" you'll see that there's a fairly calm stretch immediately downriver of it. You could bring SCUBA gear and underwater lights and cameras and approach from the shallow part at the island down there. See how close you can get. Maybe you'll be able to crawl halfway up the Strid before it gets too rough. Consider wearing a helmet. It could be a bad place to get your head bounced off a rock.

[@socks2441]

i saw a video where areas are 60+ meters deep edit: just saw the uploader of that video said the divers debunked him. i guess that makes sense, even 9 meters is pretty damn deep for such a narrow stream, let alone 60m. i would love to see this area properly explored some day..@lapdog5067