SAD TRUTH about RV Domicile & Mail- Banks HATE Full Time RVers!

[@DownsizingMakesCents]

We just got an email today from Traveling Mailbox that our address with them expires in 30 days 🤣😡 So, we are in Maine about to leave the country. We won’t be back in Florida until Fall. We are changing to the new address they gave us where we can. But we are dropping Traveling Mailbox as soon as we are back in Florida, Alice

[@RVOddCouple]

So sorry Alice! We are hearing a lot about this from other RV Odd Squad Members. Please checkout bit.ly/MyRVmail We checked them out for 6months and drove there to look at their operation and meet their Family. Good people with high integrity.

[@emortallove2u]

Watched your video! Thank you! Flyin' Free

[@MichelleGetsReal]

Thank you for your experience. So sorry you had to deal with a crappy company. I wonder if that other youtuber who recommended that service had issues. Glad you found a better service and looking out for your squad.

[@GrouchoSplinter]

Any updates?

[@tinof5829]

@@GrouchoSplinter They don't answer questions. They "only" want subscribers!

[@flyingtiger5554]

Love that you both admit when you make a mistake, accept responsibility, and then do what you can to fix it. Our society today teaches the opposite from the highest levels on down. To err is human, to have accountability is divine.

[@RVOddCouple]

Try getting a Drivers license and voting without one.

[@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679]

THAT is what sets these nice people apart. Honesty, personal accountability, humility, information. Why, i do beleive these are "old fashoined traits" not displayed in common society today. So, we join their society and leave the other one behind, throwing a big middle finger as we walk away! "They don't have to look like you, but they do need to share your values. If they do not, then they are not your family, your tribe, your community, your nation." (paraphrased from Jack Donovan)

[@hikesalot2]

America’s Mailbox, Box Elder, SD is who we use. We have been very satisfied with their service. Their owners are full-time RVers so they understand the RV traveler. South Dakota is an RV friendly state.

[@l0I0I0I0]

​​​@@RVOddCoupleMy bank also wants a physical address? How do I get around that? I need a debit card to pay my credit card. My past bank pf 15+ years dropped my account with half a days notice.

[@AndreAngelantoni]

So sorry to hear this ☹️ I've been using the Escapees RV club mail forwarding service for a year. They answer the phone and proactively let me know about anomalies. For the same price they handle my personal and business mail. When I went to the Polk County tax assessor, they guided me in registering my vehicles. So far my banks and credit unions have been fine with the address. Escapees has offices in Texas, South Dakota and Florida.

[@RouteDownFam]

That's exactly who we are using. Texas is home base and has tax benefits over others.

[@michaelwright1602]

I'm looking at South Dakota, so you have had no issues regarding banking or credit with this outfit? I was looking at one outfit, forget the name, could not find any real negatives about them. My concern is setting up my business, trucking company. I have already done quite a bit of research, and S Dakota seems to be a good fit. Any thoughts?

[@grtex-tk1ok]

Yes. I live in Texas not very far from Livingston where Escapees is located.

[@KCInferno]

I do not use Escapees or Escapers, but I have not heard a single bad word about them. If you are unsure of things using these guys might be a good option as Andre stated they answer the phone and that is step one. I use SD. I have a REAL ID from SD using my PMB. Never had an issue in SD.

[@michaelwright1602]

@@KCInferno Does you license, in the address say PMB?

[@marleneshumway4977]

we have our domicile in SD and use Americas Mailbox. We haven't had any problems and no problems with credit or banks. They help with establishment of residency with help get our vehicle licensed

[@silentscuba]

We did also and saved $18K on our RV sales tax when we purchased it in April...Americas Mail Box helped us with all that :-)

[@lisajohnson4722]

SD is a good option for a lot of people!

[@Stacey505]

@@lisajohnson4722 I grew up in Yankton South Dakota I've been in Utah for 30yrs, yes people are nice in South Dakota but it's small town gossip I hate, you can be good and they gossip ugggh

[@djamesgraham]

We have our domicile/residence in New Hampshire where we have lived for many years and sold our home. We now rent a small apartment whilst we RV around America. We use Americas Mailbox to receive our mail. We like their service and the folks are wicked nice (SD nice). Down the road, we may look at buying a piece of property and move to SD as NH is getting out of control in costs... Just waiting on Elon Musk to finish the satellites and everything will change ;0)

[@terryharleyrides6109]

One mistake is totally understandable, the second mistake is a decision. Honesty is the best way, Thanks you guys for all you do.

[@nrob450]

* When I bought my first RV 7 months ago, I immediately went paperless on every bill. * I had already googled 'Do not mail' and had my address removed from any direct mail (aka advertising). * At the point of purchase, I only got a bank statement which included my debit card. Going paperless on that was a matter of security since I had previously been a victim of identity theft. * My AT&T cell bill is only $34.08 a month which was already on automatic draft. * I pay RV and auto insurance annually and do not draft that so I can review coverages first, then authorize a one-time draft once a year. * I only need an address to renew my driver's license which I can use the RV park or a relative or a nearby post office which nowadays will give you a physical address. * By all of the above, I have NO MAIL. 🎉

[@jwessonsr7503]

Can't use the RV park (camp ground) as a mailing address where we are right now. Lazy, paranoid, Crackheads, whatever the reason it sucks. I miss the RV park out side of El Cajon Up the hill. You can use that place as a permanent residence and it's pretty nice as well. Too bad in my trade the market is saturated in the San Diego area or I'd make that place my home till I die. Lol 😁

[@susie9893]

Yeah I didn't get that part and was starting to think it was a US thing

[@dustytravels9458]

You guys are great! As a disabled, Vietnam-Era Vet, I decided to sell my house in North Carolina, purchase a fifth-wheel camper and hit the road. I domiciled in South Dakota, establishing an address with Americas Mailbox. That PMB address is on my SD driver's license and vehicle registrations. In the last 1-1/2, I have found some very significant drawbacks! First issue was that my bank and credit card companies did not recognize a PMB as a legal address. Had to fudge my way around that, but not sure how long it will last. I tried to purchase a hunting rifle only to find that I could not because the ATF does not consider PMB's. Most recently, tried to open a brokerage account with E-trade, and once again, rejected due to the PMB address. I'm surprised that I have not found other full-timer's discussing these issues. Or is there a work-around that I have not heard of? Any help from or your subscribers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again!

[@GlampDockers]

We have been using St Brenden’s Isle for the last 2.5 years and their service has been exemplary!! They are a full service domicile and mail forwarding service and when you call them you get a real person! Absolutely no complaints! We have recently changed our domicile to Americas mailbox in South Dakota and pray they will provide as good a service as St Brenden’s Isle. I think the keyword for anyone moving to the rv lifestyle is to search for domicile services, not just mailing services. Great video guys! Will be checking into your RV park to see if we can help.

[@hots4jc]

We were blessed because we live in a state where my daughter lives. We disclose everything to her and trust her completely so our mail goes there. We are almost debt free and pay our bills on line.

[@susanl4219]

When we were living on our sailboat, we didn’t have any issues. When we went to part time campers/renters, we had an issue when we tried to purchase a car. Dealer and credit union could not understand what a domicile was and demanded a “physical” address. It took weeks to get everything straightened out, and we live in Florida!

[@dustytravels9458]

Not having a physical address is becoming a much larger issue for full-timers. Mail forwarding companies are now instantly recognized by financial institutions, and are not valid for their purposes. I domiciled in South Dakota using Americas Mailbox earlier this year, and have been plagued with issues since. My former, residential address was in North Carolina, and taxes are way too high there. My new, S.D. driver's license has the Americas mailbox address and PMB #. My bank recently refused to open a second savings account for me because I do not have a residential home address, and have told me to acquire one or they will close my accounts. The same with my credit cards. Just a few weeks ago, before leaving S.D., I went to a sporting store to buy a hunting rifle, only to be told no, because the ATF will not accept a mail service address. A lot of people like me are stuck! I do not know anyone well enough in S.D. to ask to use their address. And for most purposes, you drivers license needs to match whatever residential address you might acquire. This whole thing is ridiculous! There are more than 1.5 million full-timers out there.. what are we supposed to do ????

[@trucker60ohio65]

I’m feeling better about my decision to go off grid the more I hear. No domicile, no mail, all cash, no taxes. They can lock me up if they can find me. Lol. I don’t care anymore.

[@AGhostInTheMachine]

that seems pretty damn cool

[@ladytrucker1985]

I'm right there with ya!

[@wessprouse523]

Love it

[@haveaniceday7950]

Of the grid in RV or on land? I would love to know more.

[@nicholasboule5134]

Considering you just commented on a video on the internet you are 1000% not off grid. They just choose not to look for you.

[@tomadams266]

Funny, the bank doesn’t like RV’rs, but they sure like extending loans to buyers...

[@RVOddCouple]

Banks only care about what’s good for them nobody else

[@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679]

@@RVOddCouple nor should they, it's a bank. Life is like a sandwich guys, any way you flip it, the bread comes first.

[@sunshsophprd.0565]

@@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679 well, no, if they are in the services business, they must be friendly...the mafia corporate murderer the small banks back 2005ish..

[@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679]

@@sunshsophprd.0565 "friendly" is " a smile while i fleece you, sucker"

[@DannyB-cs9vx]

A big consideration is where will you be. If you hang out in Arizona, you do not want your domicile to be on the East Coast. Things like jury duty, smog / safety checks on vehicles. You may need to be there to get a driver's license renewed. if you need medical attention, your insurance carrier may want you to see someone in the State you Domicile. Emergencies are usually covered nationwide, but what if you just want a checkup? Your health insurance may not cover it in a different State. Nevada is a central location for Western States If you do need to go there. South Dakota sounds good until you need to go there in the winter for a new driver's license.

[@davidshaw8515]

After maintaining systems for banks for many years(now retired) it is the federal govt rules that the banks have to follow about addresses. Much of these rules came about due to 9/11/2001. As for the MyRVmail, we plan on domiciling in South Dakota, so even though it sounds good for those changing to Florida we will probably use Escapees when we make the jump. Thanks for all the information and research you share with the group!

[@nathan_livingourjourney365]

Also if your planning to domicile in SD take a look at America's Mailbox. Have been with them for 4 yrs and have had nothing but positive experiences with them.

[@chakaula8642]

I opened a PO BOX in Congress and a Mail Svc in RV friendly Quartzsite and then give, Car Ins., Banks and DMV the Q. Mail Svc "actual" address (without the PMB #) but DEMAND they send their mail to my P. O. Box.

[@judyschott3838]

And I thought it was only us! Do NOT use The UPS Store either. 1) DMV's won't register vehicles with a UPS Store address (they know that address is a P.O. Box and not a physical address, altho it looks like one) 2) outrageous fees for the service 3) ships most expensive way possible (even for 2 letter size envelopes $22) 4) shipped all 3rd class junk mail (even when the contract said not to and when I had them on the phone telling them what to ship and toss the rest). We feel your pain and now use a family members address as our address. Everything is online but occasionally we do get 'real' mail; we get a text/call with you've got this mail. Sometimes it's please open & scan to us, or maybe she just mails it to our next stop. All our packages come to whatever RV Park/Campground where we're staying. AND when we stopped with The UPS Store, by law they're suppose to forward your mail - they DON'T and neither would the Post Office because UPS 'owns' that address not you. We lost health coverage because of them. Good luck!

[@AcmeRacing]

Banks, insurers, and law enforcement really hate it when they can't just go to your house to find you. That alone makes them suspect that you're up to something nefarious. Check out some of the "First Amendment Auditor" channels. When law enforcement contacts them, the first thing they always want is photo ID with their home addresses. Even when they can't compel people to ID they act like it's *highly suspicious* that anyone would rather keep that information private.

[@dcidci1012]

Very educational video, Thank you.

[@brucewohlfeld2157]

When we were working in the Caribbean we used St. Brendan’s Isle Mail Forwarding which is in Green Cove Springs FL. They have a lot of experience and are very professional. Once in the Caribbean the fellow in front of me in a store gave his address- I said “Hi neighbor”. We had the same mail forwarder.

[@acdii]

All my important stuff is done electronically, and paperless. Majority of my physical mail is all ads. Listening to what you put out in this video has been helpful as we are contemplating full timing when I retire, in 10 years.

[@James-ts5do]

Americas Mailbox --- Box Elder SD - Assists with Domicile, Vehicle Registration, Mail Forwarding, great web site, on-site RV Park if needed....Great choice for Full-Time RVers.

[@remyg5457]

Thanx for sharing this. It's one of my main concerns as I'm planning a full-time RV life. Much appreciated!

[@pugloveshep7651]

Been on road for 8 years full time set your payments up online .also been with escapees, they made it so easy

[@nurdanlane6201]

I use Traveling Mailbox and very happy with their service. I am sorry to hear your experience.

[@nealieanderson512]

We were lucky to pick My RV Mail when we started and they have been great! We stopped in a couple of times on our way places to see them. Highly recommend!

[@monicalifornia_]

You two come up with topics that NO other channel goes deep on. Thank you do much. ❤❤❤

[@ReadySetAutismFamily]

St Brendan's Isle has been phenomenal. We didn't even want to leave this comment because they are such a hidden gem. $12 month and about $9.95 every time they ship us a few weeks of mail.

[@robstewart5995]

My decision was based on 1) Had to be a Florida company, and 2) Had to be in business a long time. I love the fact they answer there phones and CHEERFULLY, help me with my problem. I glanced at price, however 1) and 2) were the driving factors. A lot of the You Tube couples were using new, out-of-state companies. One YT couple I have watched, are impulsive, make stupid mistakes, immediately make a video of their "problem". YT has been a godsend of information, one sure has to sort the bad information from the good though.

[@AmericanAztec88]

Im a postal mgr words of advice temporary forwarding is accepted for 6 months then another 6 months, other suggestions for traveling RVers is to send it to a relatives or PO Box so they can check & forward your mail to your current whereabouts. Rv Park managers are responsible for mail since its considered nomadic areas. The Postal Service offers premium forwarding at a cost per month if you have a permanent- temporary address to forward your mail. Hope this helps 🙂

[@lorianntomkewitz409]

With regards to banks, the bank is not the issue. The Patriot Act the bank is subject to is the issue. The current regulatory environment within the banking system is vast and burdensome.

[@hepcat5199]

Nothing new there. And bullshit banks hate full time RVers. If you give the bank a real physical address and your credit is good trust me, they’ll give you a loan. That’s how they make money.

[@riskyron1416]

All too true about the Patriot Act. More like the Take Away Your Freedom Act. If anything appears unconventiiional about your lifestyle you are regarded as a drug trafficker, money launderer or terrorist. Other than a once every 2 years questionaire from the Department of State I am now totally free of all that nonsense.

[@katherineb.3140]

John & Mercedes, You know, just one of the things I admire and respect about you both is your integrity. You have a giving spirit of trying to help others. That comes through. God bless you and I have been praying over your land purchase. May God bless and guide you every step of the way. ✝️

[@RVOddCouple]

Thank you Katherine. God bless you as well 🙏❤️

[@geebake]

I can't tell you how refreshing it is to hear someone admit to a mistake AND take responsibility for it. Kudos!

[@ReadySetAutismFamily]

Yeah it's extremely rare

[@johnyoung5648]

Wow. Good information. Thank you. Those of us who are not full time RVers don’t necessarily think of things like this. Please do an update video in six months to let us know if the service is still working well for you.

[@abbiebeast]

Folks may want to look into NH - no income tax, no sales tax, registrations fee's etc are minor - I registered my 2015 Thor Axis VEGAS 24.1 for $265 w/ 29K miles on it, & Custom Vanity Conservation Plates With a Moose - comes complete with the State Motto "Live Free Or Die" - no extra charge.

[@RVOddCouple]

Great info! Thank you Johnny

[@sandrafromtexas1957]

Texas....2011 pleasure way plateau ts less than $90.00 a yr for inspection and tags...no state income tax..

[@abbiebeast]

@@RVOddCouple You BET, and NP! BTW - how's the new Venture going.... have you considered a go fundme from the community vs. Vulture (sorry) Venture capital investment? PS My wife and I just had the greatest getaway, we boondocked teh RV for the very first time up in the White Mountain range of NH & at 5:30 am she took our German Shepard out to do her business and down the slope about 50 yards into the marsh a baby Moose was foraging in the water as the mist came over the mountains - God's love had us at that moment, overwhelmed!! No matter how much mankind cannot understand itself Nature does what nature does, will continue to do it and forever LIV-LIF which is my license plate!

[@lauraingeorgia5052]

WOW, excellent info! I had never even considered mail issues, since I'm still stuck in my sticks and bricks. Less than 2 mos away from my first, long awaited RV experience. Can't wait! And I can't thank RV Odd Couple enough!

[@car2nerr]

I love NH. Lived there for years. I would find a homebase there but I want that in the warmer southern states.

[@CoastieCastaways]

Having a physical address is required by the Patriot Act, the bank is just following the law.

[@lauraingeorgia5052]

They have a permanent address... It just happens to be on wheels. 😂

[@GunsmithLC]

Then why aren't the 'homeless' locked up??? I doubt they have a domicile... LOL

[@spaulsen9888]

In Oregon, you can use "homeless" as your address on your DL and registration. At least, that was the case a few years ago when I found that out.

[@GunsmithLC]

@@spaulsen9888 Really? Very interesting..

[@leahbuchholz8556]

We’ve been Passport members for 18 years or more they have saved us so much money, sometimes the rules are not convenient but we use them when we can. We aren’t full timers but love RVing and thanks for the squad.

[@RVOddCouple]

Thank you Leah❤️❤️❤️

[@RoamTownGirl]

For those on the other side of the country...I have my domicle in Nevada and Linda of Mail, Messages, and More is Pahrump also gives the personal attention to her customers. Example: I got a jury summons and she CALLED ME to let me know that this uber time sensitive piece of mail had arrived. Whew!! Mom & Pop places really are so much better with type of service, for sure!!

[@virginialemm864]

GEEZE! What a mess! Nothing but jumping through hoops to find good honest people and services! Thanks for doing your homework and sharing it with all of us. Ya know, with the way new housing prices are going, I’ve seriously thought of going full time too. It’s just not easy anymore. Love you guys, as always, Virginia (Give Sage a big hug from me!💕)

[@RVOddCouple]

We just gave Sage a big hug from you Virginia. Love you❤️

[@markviereck4547]

Why not have all your bills paperless. I get all my bills by emails. Never missed any bills.

[@confabulouscruisers]

That's what we do too.

[@austinrat]

Amen👍

[@sandrafromtexas1957]

so true....who gets a bank statement in the mail? who gets insurance statement in the mail? I know when my annual bills are due and I make sure and look for the notice/bill. Car insurance, car tags, and etc. ON LINE everything is better and if you cant trust a family member to take pics of the mail/envelopes and send to you, you have a much bigger problem Junk mail is junk mail. Most ppl can figure that out and ya really dont have to pay someone/strangers. Check in the mail?? Direct deposit works for most. And if your answer is I dont want to give out that info, that makes no sense when you pay stranger to accept your mail.

[@kellysmith652]

Yes that is correct- but for new accounts at Banks/CU I know they require a physical address- So many regulations we have to follow- and not knowing where our clients/members live is dangerous for the financial- It's a whole KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER Compliance. I work at one but don't deal with anyone in this situation as I don't deal with regular retail bank clients so I'll see what i can find out.

[@dblue3710]

@@sandrafromtexas1957 remember it’s not about how you RECEIVE it, it’s about that legality of where you claim homebase.

[@janeforever]

VERY interesting & informative YT. Glad you were able to move from the problem service. I wouldn't be embarrassed about what happened to you because everyone goes through a learning experience on something - you were just willing to share with everyone🥰

[@RVOddCouple]

Thank you Jane!

[@danjones0212]

Don't feel embarrassed. We are not perfect and we all make mistakes. Stepping up and owning that mistake takes courage. Thank you for that. And as a newbie I am glad you put this video out so I know who to avoid. And no we don't have passport america and no the doctors don't know what's wrong with me either! Lol. Y'all keep up the good work!

[@thomaslong1952]

I am a rv odd squad member and am right now feeling your pain with traveling mail company. No mail 1st two months. Im done with it. Its not your fault mercades, its just a growing pain we will get through.😃 love you guys.

[@davidjesse5521]

Oops , thanks for exposing traveling mailboxes marketing scams . This will help truck drivers as well , because a lot of us don’t have a home

[@CowboyBikerAdventures]

John and Mercedes, I use Escapees of Texas and just received my mail for the last 4 months today here in New Mexico. They do it right. No problems with the address they gave me for my driver license and my license to carry. Don

[@RVOddCouple]

We would have gone with them if they had a Florida solution. But My RV Mail is perfect for Florida!

[@paulmadkow9143]

I registered my new pickup in Las Vegas. The DMV fees were 965 bucks! I was a resident of Tennessee. I have a Tennessee DL. My registration fee in Tennessee is only 29 bucks and you can renew online. It works for now.

[@RVOddCouple]

Tennessee was a popular choice as well

[@janicecline1]

I heard that in Nevada some counties are inexpensive for dmv fees. See channel Robert Withim and/or Meanderings

[@jerry8mm]

Last year I switched to Escapers in TX to receive my mail, and so so far, I've been happy with them. They receive mail for 60,000 RVers. As you said, you have to do your homework and make sure you are getting the service you were promised.

[@650tonyd]

Can you use that address in Texas to get a Texas driver's license?

[@jerry8mm]

@@650tonyd Yes, that's what I did.

[@tonkatruck6722]

I am shocked that they would automatically shred stuff like that. Why not return to sender at least but destroying it?

[@kellymccall3491]

The post office says it's too expensive to return mail anymore. Save the post office. Vote to save the post office! It is not insolvent. It has put funds for retirement out into escrow fir decades- congress made that decision for the post office

[@tonkatruck6722]

@@kellymccall3491 *See Russell- Jay: Gould about that. Doesn't excuse unlawful destruction of private property, it seems that some of these mail services are not privy to all of their federal responsibilities which technically they could be held accountable for. I am working with 2 and one is terrible but the other has been superb.

[@BonFShaw]

I chose a mail service & domicile that also rents RV sites on property. When banks/brokerage services etc. say "that's a commercial address", and they will, I simply tell them that it's an RV park and that's where I rent. That usually takes care of it.

[@johnniemayhem]

Another great service, one I have used for three years is Your Best Address in South Dakota. Very reasonable. Family owned. If you want to domicile, register your vehicles etc in SD they will help with that. If you just want a good mail service they are great. Three years and never a problem.

[@imout671]

You can have insurance, electric, phone bill payments automatically drafted from your credit card. We do that because we travel so much

[@confabulouscruisers]

That's good advice. We do that too.

[@petercolquhoun2086]

I do not have to do anything to pay ALL of my bills. They either go to my credit card that is automatically paid or they hit my bank account directly. Totally hands off. I check things once a month just to make sure.

[@confabulouscruisers]

@@petercolquhoun2086 That's cool. Not all of the companies I work with do auto pays and one of the ones I work with can't be trusted to bill correctly. Sooo haha I still know when they're due and pay by phone

[@paulmadkow9143]

Yeah everything is online for me. Its works great.

[@RVOddCouple]

We need a DL & we are responsible to vote

[@rickershomesteadahobbyfarm3291]

Even though I never plan on living in an rv or traveling I like watching y’all’s channel.

[@jrwselberg2727]

Florida has been our domicile for 1 1/2 years now, and we have been VERY happy with it. While doing our due diligence in figuring out which state would be the best for us, we discovered not all mail services are the same in Florida and not all areas are affordable. We use My RV Mail in Crestview, and it's been great. They service a great number of overseas military. I found the mail service to be excellent and affordable for full-time RVers (and we get a nice discount being Passport America members), and the price of registering, tagging, and insuring our truck and 5th wheel in Okaloosa county is very reasonable.

[@fireincumbents]

Fortunately I chose the right company to work with in South Dakota whose loosely affiliated with FMCA. I've had zero issues with the address, no glitches or gotcha's. I spend a couple months a year up here as well, so I can always actually go there as well. ALWAYS deal with a forwarder who actually gets / understands the needs of RVer's.

[@RVOddCouple]

😊👍

[@markymark903]

I wonder how many people decided to try the RV life after watching you guys vs how many decided that RVing wasn't for them? Either way I'm sure you have helped many people.

[@RVOddCouple]

I hope so! We don’t want anyone to struggle like we did

[@aldntn]

No matter how long you've been at thing, you're always learning.

[@RVOddCouple]

So true!

[@cabinlifeatedensprings1710]

We went on our first RV trip. And I have to say I love it! Everything was awesome! I used a portable washer/ spinner and I am extremely impressed by how well it worked. Even those big beach towels were clean and nice. I bought a mini ninja to make my daily smoothies and it worked better than my big ninja back home. Everything we had been told to try worked amazing. I could definitely be a full time RVer, Back 6 years ago we bought land In Tennessee. Thinking that one day we might want to go full time and have that physical address to come home to. As yet that has not happened. But it was one of our reasons behind buying a few acres. I’m not giving up on the hope of being in our motorhome a lot more. I’m happy with our Tennessee address. But even with a permanent address the problem comes up when we need our mail held for long periods of time, I can’t imagine our little town of about 200 residents would want to hold our mail for months. Or forward it. it’s so good to have the knowledge of ( my Rv mail ). Thank you so much ! I will not even mention ( T. M, b. ) it’s going to be “ ( MY RV MAILBOX) “ all the way. You guys are a huge help. Looking forward to coming to visit you guys once you are set up with your RV PARK. You can count on us to be guest. Thanks again for your honesty and integrity! This is why you will be a great success with your RV PARK and rentals, God bless, leslye

[@RVOddCouple]

Congratulations and God Bless you as well 🙏😊

[@cptballast]

We have used Escapees out of Texas for years and have been very satisfied after using Voyagers in Islamorada Fl and Pahrump NV. No taxes and vehicle registration easy and cheap.

[@anybodyoutthere3208]

WOW, new to the channel but OMG thank you for making this video. Fulltiming in less than a year so this info is so important. I've listened to a few other videos out there but this one is going over a lot of helpful info! Also I am determined to read every comment for helpful nuggets of information. Again thank you and thanks to everyone sharing what works what doesn't. So many detailed responses! Love it~

[@RVOddCouple]

The best information you’ll ever receive is below in the comments. The RV Odd Squad fills in all the holes

[@annapennrose1158]

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER do business with Wells Fargo.

[@doingmoreoutdoorswithvivia7310]

You got that right.

[@RVOddCouple]

Can’t stand them! Not so easy to switch

[@georgekatsinis5224]

Wells Fargo is CRIMINAL. Google "Wells Fargo fines"

[@kristyo8078]

I totally agree!

[@immasher2139]

What national chain of Banks should one use that is accessible in the 48 states? Also, a chain that will not charge ATM Fees in the 50 states?

[@garylovio1180]

You 2 are always so honest, it’s refreshing. Thank you!!

[@RVOddCouple]

Hey Gary 😊👍

[@goleafsgo8496]

Transparency acts as such a great teaching tool and it takes very little effort in reality. Can be a little embarrasing for sure but everyone should appreciate you for it. Your lessons learned and also those people before you always makes it just a little bit easier for the next family.

[@bunnielynn777]

You guys are awesome, your videos are so honest and informative! I pray that all is going well with you guys & that our Father in Heaven is watching over y’all and keeping you in His loving care 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼

[@BonnieBrenden]

Our County said it’s illegal to live in an RV. Very strange. Very glad we still bought ours and are traveling around. Still have a mailing address which has helped

[@iglapsu88]

I'm sorry this happened to you. Thanks for sharing your experience to help out other RVers and to be RVers!

[@raymondschneider5217]

Am sooooo relieved that by your recent purchase of an RV Park that many of these issues will become non-issues. I HATE it, when the world conspires against me!! Y'all Be Safe!

[@iglapsu88]

Just registered two vehicles, an RV and Cargo trailer in North Carolina. With taxes and everything else it was well over $2K. We were floored. We essential have now paid 10% sales tax on our tow vehicle as a result of moving from Maryland to North Carolina.

[@sylviajones4907]

Thank you for passing this info along.

[@raymondherbst7126]

Learn as you go for sure! Online, email & paperless for important stuff is what we do.

[@michellebarlondsmith6243]

You are right it's hard to deal with non RVers .... And mail had been major issues and learning curve ....

[@brianhowe3905]

John & Mercedes, We were lucky to have already lived in Crestview when we went full-time. We've been with MyRVmail for almost a year now and have nothing but the best to say about those folks. Like you've stated, they will make EVERY effort to figure out which mailbox the item is supposed to go to. There have been numerous times, especially when we first started changing our mail to the MyRV mail address, that had an incorrect/incomplete address and they would look it up and write the correct address on the envelope/address. We have yet to find any business that would not send our mail to the MyRVmail address, including Wells Fargo. Of course, our domicile/voting address is different than the MyRVmail address. Highly recommend MyRVmail!!

[@stevetekrv5791]

I've been using Escapees mail service in Livingston, TX for about 6 months and it's awesome.

[@sandy89107]

Sorry you had to suffer, but so glad you are sharing your experience for the benefit of your listeners 🥰

[@ceciliav105]

Thank you for being open and honest. It’s great information

[@robreighter2851]

Thank you for all you do. We very much enjoy your videos. Just in case it wasn’t clear to your listeners and to underscore the importance of choosing a mail service, it’s not just a mater of “forwarding” mail to the mail service. Yes, you would do that in the beginning but you have to change your mailing address with all of your vendors, corespondents, etc., even the IRS. This takes time! It took us almost a year to feel confident that we would receive all important mail. To have to redo this process again would not be fun! All of these mail service companies make mistakes. (Don’t we all) We’ve discovered that but as you’ve pointed out, some take more of a personal interest; some assume more responsibility than others. Thanks again!

[@RVOddCouple]

Exactly Rob! It’s almost taken us a year to do all the necessary research to make sure we found a company that we would feel confident in. We even drove to the Panhandle to meet the family and look at their office or operation

[@tressessalon]

Thank you so much for that information!! Don’t be so hard on yourselves, we all make mistakes and you all are learning just like the rest of us. I appreciate the research and hard work that you put in to get good information to us!!

[@RVOddCouple]

Thank you Teresa

[@lmcwill0502]

Very good advice for the full time RVrs. I live in FL and we plan to be only part time RVing. in the future. I was very interested in the mail. In the future we may be gone for 2-3 months and need the service of My RV Mail since the postal service will only hold our mail for 30 days. Reason I say we will RV part time in future, is because everyone is doing it now. And we want to purchase used, any good used one gets taken emmediantly. So we wait, till it is our turn. Enjoy your adventure.

[@Dave-hc6pp]

I live in a town that doesn’t have home delivery from the post office if you live inside the town limits. They do provide us with a post office box at no charge but it does create confusion at times. When I give my address to anyone who wants a physical address I give them one but I also tell them that if they expect me to get mail from them they have to use the PO Box. I also use paperless billing from anyone who offers that option. Others I allow to deduct payment from my checking account. So far it’s worked 95% of the time but there are always exceptions.

[@pamrymanowicz293]

Sound like Gila Bend AZ, when I heard this when there for 6 months I thought WTF? I thought mail was delivered everywhere in America

[@daviddewey2107]

I've been using mail messages and more for over a year now in Nevada as the same place that Bob Welch uses and they forward my mail once a month and it works great.

[@gretasandstone357]

Excellent video! I followed your prior recommendation and had traveling mailbox and quickly learned everything you now say to be 100% true. I went thru a nightmare getting out of there and now using a family members address. You said you went down a 6 month rabbit hole on learning domicile better...why not share what you learned to spare all of us the same 6 month research. Or can you provide a spreadsheet showing side by side comparison for each state? Or any websites you found that does this well. I'm stuck on trying to decide between FL and TN. Id live to get a comparison between the 2. Not sure if either tax retirement income or require you to be present in state. Please help save me from another rabbit hole!!

[@shannonduncan6548]

John ..Mercedes y'all are a God send..you make RV lifestyle so much easier with your information...You keep us from making the same mistakes and that is so valuable.. And yall are so truthful and honest.. Which makes us trust you advice... Thanks guys!!

[@thekellycorner]

You both are giving primo information about the topic for rver's. Thanks for the veideo.

[@carolpepe9382]

Thank you for that info! I'm getting ready to get out on the road, and this was just what I needed!😊

[@woodyvanderbilt8036]

South Dakota - Americas Mailbox Inc. Prime example: Renewed annual RV tags by phone call to the Secretary of County using credit card. SOC notified me that they mailed tags via email. AMI notified me that I had mail. I went to my account on AMI and found the scanned letter from the SOC. I scheduled a USPS Priority shipment from AMI to a post office in Southern New Mexico. AMI emailed me that they made the shipment. I tracked the package and recieved it only SIX days after calling the SOC. The "BAII" was never dropped!

[@andywellborn]

Ding! Ding! I'm from Crestview, Florida... Guess when I get ready to go on the road, don't have to go far to get ready, Thanks

[@mikerattee56]

thanks for your candid honesty

[@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679]

spoke to an attorney.. The legal definition of "domicile" is "a physical location used for taxes, legal matters, and may - or may not - be your place of residence. A place of residence is considered a location where you physically live. Dave's RV Life - he has a house and a garage. His "domicile" is the house he owns (but rents out) - his "place of residence" is the garage apartment, his Bounder, or his van.

[@Joker45678]

I ended up using a UPS Store for my address.(Florida) I was told you could use it as a physical address for your drivers license. The DMV said they can't accept it as an address on a license. They actually had a list of addresses they wouldn't accept. It's a big pain to figure this crap out. At least UPS store will forward your mail to another UPS store if you move. I get Amazon packages through them too.

[@randomspirit]

Wells-Fargo sucks! Long story short, I had to threaten to go to the media to get them to correct their $12,000 mistake.

[@dorisshanks7295]

I am not surprised about Wells Fargo Bank. When my local bank turned into a Wells Fargo and I saw all those fees where there had been none before, I closed my account that day and moved to Navy Fed Credit Union where I already had my business account. Never heard much good about Wells Fargo except in the old Westerns. lol! My son gets what little mail I get. I am paperless as much as possible. He sends it one a month or so.

[@TellMeAboutYourDog]

Great video. This is a big topic that most do not consider. I know that I still have a "sticks and bricks" that I rent and use for my address.

[@gkseeton]

Love the blue glasses. Very sharp. Hope this issue doesn’t mess up your plans.

[@phyllismitchell7623]

You might want to add in your domicile section that if a person is on ssa only (I am single, I don't know the amount for married) you might be taken out of the highest tier, there are three) that the state will pay for your Part B. Since NM and AZ rate of living is very low, if your monthly income from SSA is over $1,000 month this could drop you out of that system and make you pay for Part B which is $148 month.

[@l0I0I0I0]

How do you get a debit card with no physical address? I need to pay my credit card but can't get a debit card?

[@paparentman]

Thanks for another very informative video. It’s wonderful you’re sharing information that usually doesn’t get shared. Unless you’re lucky enough to sit around a campfire with someone who has had an experience. I assume when you shopped around for a different mail service you considered escapees mail service. Curious why you didn’t choose them?

[@joygypsiestv9883]

That's my question too. All I can figure is they didn't know about Escapees, or they thought Escapees is just for old, retired folks. Certainly the retired crowd outnumbers us, but some are business owners like us and others are nomadic remote workers, and we belong to the Xscapers part of Escapees. We've been members since 2016, and for the most part, the membership has served us quite well.

[@AutumnButterfly]

I've learned so much from you guys. The mail issue was something I thought would be an easy fix, apparently it isn't and I'm so glad you explained why. Thank you so much! I'm not sure if I'll ever get on the road, but at least I'll know what to do with my mail if I do. You're awesome!

[@bussingwithbain]

Thank you for this info. I signed up with postal1 and not happy with service and extra fees that I thought were included. Now to go through hassle of changing mail forwarding again....

[@thatoldbiddy2]

I live really close to Crestview. What a small world. Glad you found a company to solve these issues. thanks for sharing your journey

[@FOMC6780]

Thanks, John and Mercedes for mentioning my current hometown Crestview!

[@RVOddCouple]

You bet!

[@warrenbrooks6557]

Very very helpful information. We are “domiciled “ in SC, one year in so far and so good. We are coming up on vehicles registration and hopefully all goes well. We were told about banks not liking full timers but we are hoping not to need them except for direct deposits. We shall see… Thanks again for your information, we love your honesty!!

[@Affordableframe]

Most banks and insurance companies, and credit card companies, will handle all of your business online.

[@joygypsiestv9883]

While that's true once you're a customer, if you want a loan, banks aren't so excited if they don't have a way to find you. That's why we have a physical address through Escapees RV Club, not just a mail forwarding address. Even so, banks are suspicious when they learn that it's an RV park and not a "home". I think they overlook that issue when they see that someone has a lot of money, but they're less "forgiving" of ordinary folk who are not making six figures and above.

[@outdoordave6304]

Maybe try this: start your own mail service at your new campground. Also, trade work for cping fees/memberships at the campground.

[@GrandmaJilly1]

wow! thanks so much...we were going to sign up with them, but not now!!

[@hg2.]

As always - thanks for making and sharing. Good luck with all.

[@RVOddCouple]

Thank you for watching :-)