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[@leaffinite2001]

Everything i know about mr beast has been against my will

[@aurioladieuseul1017]

same for me with both of them 😭

[@leaffinite2001]

@jelloknife4116 ohhh you got me! Youre so smart!

[@pepsie7225]

@@jelloknife4116 so are we supposed to know every single thing mr beast owns??? cause there is nothing in that video title saying that lunchly has anything to do with mr beast

[@jordan853]

​@@jelloknife4116 imagine thinking that ignoring a creator's content because you don't like them means you can never stay informed on significant news relating to that creator.

[@FriendshipIsMagic1998]

@@jelloknife4116 the video title doesn't mention mr beast though...

[@lestranged]

230 calories is not a lunch. That is a snack. Especially for growing kids, they need more food. Solid food, not diet drinks.

[@aberaham9514]

fr bro no growing kids can survive and be healthy when all they have for lunch is a few crackers, a choclate bar and a diet drink

[@P0rk_Sinigang]

Right, unless it's got like... 40 g of protein and 20 g of fiber, that ain't keep any kid satisfied.

[@timn0ugat1]

Like 230 calories is a hold over til dinner bar or a jerky stick… snacks you could easily down 3 of

[@bladewolf39]

Basically advertising the Special K Diet for elementary school kids lol You know these kids are gonna be bringing this in for lunch and by the time recess or P.E. or whatever they do now, they're gonna start complaining about headaches and cramps with zero energy.

[@teratsukielizabeth543]

And no veg/fruit yikes

[@zerkton2648]

"low calorie" you mean low energy? kids play, wth

[@Rebecca-zj4wq]

They can't say healthy because it contains no fruit or vegetables.

[@samaraisnt]

it’s diet food for children who shouldn’t even be counting calories in the first place… 😐

[@Pajali]

Yeah, I’m imagining that kids who have this as “lunch” will be hungry and also running to the bathroom all afternoon from that huge drink on a mostly-empty stomach.

[@sonicrunn3r895]

Making sure they get even less energy so that instead of having the energy to play, they go home to their iPad, sit down and turn on the next Mr Beast video so they get reminded to buy a nice feastibles bar, now with slave labour!

[@MrTellitHowitis]

Uh…what?

[@zeppzz]

Jordan rapid fire tossing strays at prime and lunchly while Jarvis desperately tries to stay neutral is the funniest thing

[@microsnail2761]

The desperation is palpable. It’s so funny.

[@abdullahzayed7866]

​@@microsnail2761 palpatine?🤨

[@microsnail2761]

@@abdullahzayed7866 no

[@MrChunkyFlubba]

@@abdullahzayed7866dew it

[@aurioladieuseul1017]

"idk what lunchly is bc i just woke up" is exactly how i feel about this situation 😭😭

[@BackroomConnousier]

Why is there so little food? When i was in school i could eat like seven of this and still be hungry

[@lestranged]

that's what I was thinking. A kid in a growth spurt needs more than 200 calories! They burn that up just sitting still, (and they never sit still.)

[@DogethanDogestarASMR]

Because it's meant to make money, not nourish children

[@bassetts1899]

230 calories but 30% of your daily saturated fat!

[@aliencafe]

Yeah, little kids have voracious appetites. Even more so when they’re participating in after school activities, too. This would hardly be a snack for most kids.

[@yaboye3791]

​@@bassetts1899 Mmm, i can feel my arteries clog in real time!

[@monikorasort]

It’s really sad to me how little kids are getting advertised “low-calorie” foods. This is how eating disorders start young, people!

[@schippai3308]

low calorie isn't even a problem, it's that there is a complete lack of the foundation required for them to understand why "low calorie" is useful information - to advertise that to children is entirely disingenuous

[@hospitable_ghost]

They're also only "low calorie" because there's barely any food in there!

[@lorrithelinguist]

This is definitely not enough to sustain a child for a full school day.

[@AleksandarBell]

Especially considering that a lot of children don't eat breakfast because school starts so early in the US, that's 200 calories for 8 hours. Not enough at all.

[@nad_bell_]

Children need calories! They are growing! Nutritional content is way more relevant

[@skylarmae02]

speaking from experience, teaching kids that calories are bad has the potential to mess up their relationship with food forever. I’d rather have my kid eat a cafeteria meal than this cus at least they’d actually have something fueling their bodies that isn’t salty water and crackers

[@bigjedimullet]

I never understood why people were so scared of calories. You can’t drive a car without fuel in it; why would you do that to your body?

[@ratkeep]

oh don't worry, it's not salty water it's just sickeningly sweet water YAY!

[@riribeasley4741]

⁠@@bigjedimulletdiet culture! The 80’s and 90’s convinced most people that calories are the be all and end all. But your car analogy is absolutely perfect. Why do we demonise fueling our bodies???

[@BasicGeometry]

THIS. there’s soooo much more to what makes a meal healthy than calories

[@ZanguSwe]

I think it's really scummy that they are pushing the calorie count. That's one facet of a healthy diet, but *where* those calories are coming from, in what form and also all the other facets of dieting, like carbohydrates, protein, vitamins etc is WAY more important overall than "Oh this has less calories than Lunchables". It's really telling that the trio is marketing towards younger kids and their parents who might not know better. Extremely scummy behavior.

[@harasnicole]

DanTDM posted that one tweet then dipped, and KSI has been losing it ever since.

[@P0rk_Sinigang]

Even KSI's friends were like, "He just made one tweet, bro."

[@mirih4239]

and it didn't even mention KSI specifically, which makes the whole thing even funnier

[@sonicrunn3r895]

Dan made a great critique that none of the three managed to make a successful response to and then walked away like the bigger person, truly nothing but respect to the man

[@AMan-xz7tx]

Dude made one tweet and got sent a 5 star reservation to live rent free in KSI's head for the next month

[@caitlynmcmunn]

You gotta tell me what the Tweet was, I’m so outside of this bubble but I gotta know

[@nikobutterbar928]

When I worked at the Boys and Girls Club, some children would turn down their lunches. I’d ask why, and 90% of the answers were “I don’t wanna get fat.” Now, a lot of them probably just didn’t wanna tell me they didn’t like the food. I don’t lean into that thought, because of how much they’d tell me they hated the food if they really didn’t like it. However I acknowledge it as possible. However, these were 2nd graders. Some of them were a little heavier than their peers. But they are children, with baby fat. They should be eating to grow, they should be eating to feel safe and happy. They should be eating. I suffered from disordered eating when I went through my weight loss journey. Eating 1000 cals in canned tuna and rice, while biking 30 miles a day. I didn’t even notice how bad I was, I just thought it was good because it made me feel more attractive. My therapist had to tell me I was bordering on Anorexia. When we normalize shit like calorie tracking to children, we get children, teenagers, young adults, and regular adults who think it’s normal to hate your body. Who think it’s normal to go into an insane caloric deficit for the sake of feeling better about one’s appearance. We are leading people into dark tunnels without telling them how to get out. We are forcing children into unhealthy relationships with food and their own bodies, for the sake of a quick fucking buck. I hate Jimmy, I hate Logan, and I hate KSI. Deeply, purely, entirely.

[@samaraisnt]

:( thank you

[@colourfulsouls]

Most of the time kids gain more weight before they go through a growth spurt, so it’s important for them to eat and gain weight, restricting it is restricting their growth

[@ilexdiapason]

you might want to look into orthorexia, which sounds like it might describe what you were going through accurately - i'm glad you're not in that place any more

[@tangsolaris9533]

2nd graders should not have to skip lunch.

[@AleksandarBell]

I think it's even funnier that Logan and KSI came so hard for Dan when he has two children so why wouldn't he be worried about this? Like not even from the perspective of his audience being young, he has young children.

[@lilelo208]

Didn't Logan use the birth of his kid to sponser Lunchly....? It's all about money, so Logan/KSI/Beast wouldn't care unless it makes them less profit.

[@Emma_The_H0ppin_H00ligan]

​@@lilelo208LOGAN HAS A KID!??!?!?!?

[@lilelo208]

@@Emma_The_H0ppin_H00ligan it's what I heard, I hope he learns to mature more but who knows maybe he is different off screen. Chaotic for marketing kind of deal. I don't care enough to do deep research, more important things are happening.

[@abbywolffe4114]

​@@lilelo208 Disrespectfully, the Paul Brothers shouldn't be allowed to reproduce

[@sonicrunn3r895]

@@abbywolffe4114 I can only hope that their children grow up to be better than their parents, it's possible

[@riribeasley4741]

Kinda shows that none of these three creators have children because any parent could look at that pack and tell that’s NOT ENOUGH food. I put more in my 4 year olds lunchbox!

[@m2908xx]

Right.. This is barely snack

[@adventureisntfar]

Logan's wife just had a child. That poor baby to have him as a father....

[@veri_disko]

Wait, Jimmy and KSI?? Ive never heard of them having kids im sorry

[@hustle_rose]

​@@adventureisntfar i'm still wrapping my head around the fact that Logan has a child, like the Paul brothers have no business handling children in any capacity with their track record

[@catgirl_warcrimes]

Lunchly - 50% packaging 40% prime 10% food

[@Emma_The_H0ppin_H00ligan]

....40% CONCENTRATED POWER OF WILL!!!!!! /lyr

[@MyNamesHunter75]

I find it funny KZbin wants me to translate this to English

[@catboydeathgrips]

the reason they taste so... sticky, for lack of a better term, is because the use of coconut water as a sweetner. i know this because i tried prime and had a mild allergic reaction, and since coconut is an uncommon enough allergen it was not listed under anything other than the ingredients list. it's kind of debated whether its necessary to list "contains coconut" on products like this, however the fda requires them to be listed as tree nuts and declared as an allergen.

[@sealpup9341]

It sucks because coconut *isn't* a tree nut, it's a fruit! I have a tree nut allergy and now i have to worry about 'contains tree nut' when i don't have an allergy to coconut... god we need more regulation on that stuff in the US

[@catboydeathgrips]

@@sealpup9341 yea exactly. they're listed as "drupes" since they contain equal characteristics of a nut and a fruit, but since they grow from trees and have those characteristics, they're required under fda law to be listed as a tree nut allergen. which is bs, since most people with tree nut allergies can consume them just fine and -- again -- not a common enough allergen to need their own seperate warning.

[@twomillionmerits]

totally unrelated but my girlfriend is also allergic to coconut so this is super helpful for me to be mindful of; thanks for the information!!

[@samsbiography4224]

while you're absolutely right abt the coconut another contributing factor to both the allergen and stickiness is the sucralose Jarvis mentioned!! I'm wildly allergic to sucralose (just a sip of diet Pepsi once put me down for the afternoon); and it tends to have that "cloying sweetness" they mentioned as well

[@haileyj6902]

i’ve had prime and i swear it says it’s coconut water on the side of the bottle?

[@jessejustsick]

The real crime, is having to suffer through prime, when you could be drinking the nectar of the gods aka Capri Sun

[@heyhey8684]

Lmao yessss

[@Adrian-co1br]

please talk about feastables being marketed as slave and kid labour free and having better ingredients than Hersheys, but mr beast changing the recipe and the cocoa production without saying anything to slave and kid labour

[@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme]

dangggg did he do that? that's soooo slimy

[@heimo444]

@@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme They took the certified slavery free affiliation logo off the feastables site for where they sourcing the beans and didn't mention any change in a publicly obvious way after advertising being slavery free at the start up for so long.

[@JinStreams]

Finally, Mr beast including his target audience in the production

[@ona512]

ah the double standard of those weird certs

[@cooltwittertag]

​@@ona512how

[@ashleeminnow8453]

Jordan saying "and you're unvaccinated" while Jarvis is on a roll speaking, making Jarvis stop and go "What?!" made me laugh so hard.

[@queenzigzag]

in canada, it it legally mandatory for anything with caffeine to say its caffeinated. even then, it took the teamwork of me, three grocery store employees including the manager, and two concerned onlookers to make sure bottled prime was not caffeinated like canned prime. cant imagine how many kids or people with heart conditions accidentally drink something dangerous because of the weirdly vague marketing

[@Rambles_Ramblings]

I think it's vague because they want kids to drink it and get addicted, more money for them I guess :/

[@AustinJSchaeffer]

Like others have said, I had a friend get the "calories is bad" message at a young age from his parents and to this day he still has a very bad relationship with calories. It doesn't result in him consuming less calories or being specific with his calories as much as it just makes him feel guilty for everything he eats ever. And yeah "low calorie" is a very stupid goal for a meal for children anyways, the demographic that famously burns through calories.

[@dylnpickl846]

My favorite lunchable was the ham and cheese crackers with a kitkat. It was never allowed to be my entire lunch, and it had a lot more food in it than lunchly. I could make exactly 4 perfect double cheese and ham cracker "sandwiches". Lunchly provides a seemingly random number of ingredients. Lunchables were packed tightly specifically to allow for backpack abuse with minimal food damage. Lunchly wants kids to eat dust.

[@woodfur00]

This whole conversation is a fascinating study in how Lunchables shrank over time because I don't ever remember them having enough for double sandwiches. You get 6 of each thing and that's it, go cry about it

[@Rose_Withers]

Dr Mike summed it best, if a kid eats one they're not gonna get enough calories, if a kid eats two they get too much sodium, its a lose lose Edit: Commented too soon

[@thrawn4emp]

"healthy lunchables" already exist 😭 Hillshire Farms

[@ttimttam]

those r amazinggg

[@vegahimsa]

No such thing as healthy. The World Health Organization has processed meats such as lunch meat classified as a carcinogen in the same level of danger as cigarettes. Meat in general is problematic for our health but processed meats we have direct evidence that they cause cancer

[@lizzietrot2522]

The Lo-Beast-SI response to this is laughable. Between Prime having forever chemicals and lead and Mr. Beast building a chocolate brand as "healthy" and then silently changing the recipe to be roughly equal to Hershey's after that brand had been established as better for you, plus the meal not having the right nutritional value for growing kids and the online website stating if you order through it you wave your right to class action lawsuit, kids shouldn't be eating this shit.

[@samaraisnt]

They…found pfas and lead? 😭 when?

[@kaskaskas]

And apparently Mr Beast’s version removed the “kid labor free” label so. Safe to assume they are indeed slave/child labor sourced

[@janetandamocha7874]

Counting calories from a young age is a lot of what contributed to my eating disorder. It is disgusting they are advertising "low calories=healthier".

[@bumfricker2487]

also, in this case "low calories" just means less food

[@zawarudo1041]

I can bet NOT counting calories creates inconsiderably more eating disorders. The problem is there is difference between recommended daily calorie intake, that can be checked with moderate accuracy per each person, and undereating. Source of calories is as important. Problem is that parents are not teaching chosen healthy and responsible nutrition. School hardly teaches anything life-related nowadays so I will not even bother talking about their responsibilities…

[@JadeSanchez132.0]

We are getting off the PR list with this one

[@gz5163]

It's like candy cigarettes for the 2020s

[@baffledbumblebee]

That super mild & chalky wintergreen flavor (totally addictive in its own right) and those absolutely necessarily red-dyed tips... Ahhhhhhh childhood.

[@ghoultooth]

@@baffledbumblebeeThe ones I had were just plain white :(

[@yeehaw4775]

@@ghoultooththat’s so sad 😭 the ones i had always had a wrap around it that looked like the cigarette at the least

[@batterybroken]

I loved those 😭

[@iblame_nargles]

@@yeehaw4775 ...were those edible...or did I just eat paper as a kid?

[@IAmKibbi]

The issue is competitors competing by undercutting. Not by improving product. This is why kids AND adults and everyone only gets this food.

[@whatever9097]

I really appreciate the acknowledgment of how weird and bad the demonization of calories is, especially for kids. I’ve been in a years long on again off again recovery from an ED, in my experience at least, demonizing calories is the first step to having an unhealthy relationship with food. Seriously though, 230 calories is low for an adult, let alone a kid. For context, that’s about what I would aim for lunch or breakfast during the height of my ED.

[@spiderdude2099]

As someone whose BF works in food service and catering at a restaurant, this is the most important takeaway I learned from him: If you think any restaurant is unique, or has "freshly sourced ingredients", no they dont. Every restaurant and food manufacturer (in the US at least) is just remixing the same couple of sellers to you. In my area, there are 3 restaurant food suppliers. They are the only ones. You want food as a restaurant? You buy your ingredients from one of them. All three are owned by Nestle or some huge food megacorp. Every. Last. One. Thats the issue with all these independent or youtuber based food brands. There is nothing new under the sun. The company that produces your food that you partnered with that promised you "that their ingredients are of a better quality than ____competitor" is just straight up lying to you. They all get it from the same place.

[@soupbowl222]

that is so incredibly interesting to think about

[@spiderdude2099]

@@soupbowl222 yeah, the way restaurants distinguish themselves is technique and what they DO with those same ingredients

[@sbtchhrs]

@@spiderdude2099this, and some purveyors are better than others. ngl the boyfriend’s take is trash as someone who has spent the last decade in everything from fast food to fine dining. their order lists are VERY different even if it is from the same purveyor. this also is discrediting any farm to table restaurants in the US which is dumb considering how many there are already established, and how many are emerging.

[@spiderdude2099]

@@sbtchhrs ok, but for the sake of what is being discussed, yes, some restaurants, you can get premium ingredients. But it usually costs a premium too. Mr Beast making these meals as a competitor to a huge company like Lunchables, is NOT spending a premium to make his stuff “better”. It’s likely being sourced from the EXACT SAME place lunchables gets their stuff made. There can’t be THAT many food suppliers in the business of making children’s prepared meals.

[@seanonraet8327]

capitalism truly has bred innovation and competition...

[@mahrinui18]

There is something viscerally upsetting to me about bastions of heterosexuality Mr Beast, KSI, and Logan Paul being associated with the phrase "leave no crumbs"

[@leadisterrible]

Correct me if I'm wrong but did logan Paul have like a week when he was bi???? Is that something that happened???

[@kaskaskas]

Why does this sound vaguely familiar lol. I think he made some comment about “going gay” for a month which is stupid for obvious reasons.

[@leadisterrible]

@kaskaskas YES I AM SURE THAT WAS IT THANK U SM

[@leadisterrible]

@kaskaskas what a strange time that was........

[@kaskaskas]

@@leadisterrible fr

[@B.-T.]

With who owns the company, should have called it Punchables instead.

[@bluebelljingle]

i came here from the twitter beef. y'all should see for yourselves how bad ksi is handling this

[@SeventhGod77]

I’m not gonna touch Twitter, if someone wants to give me a quick TLDR that would be appreciated if not I’ll simply remain ignorant.

[@mashinmello3851]

@@SeventhGod77They talk about it at 16:57 in the video! :)

[@_zone7372]

@@mashinmello3851They touch on the Tweet from DanTDM a bit but KSI is never mentioned. I’m also curious about what KSI had to say because I don’t want to download Twitter just for this

[@SATURN-ow]

​@@SeventhGod77The subreddit r/KZbindrama has a few posts on it. I was really confused when it came up on my feed but knowing, now, what prompted KSI to post crazy stuff I'm just baffled lol

[@tash4270]

You guys have such excellent content for crocheting while listening to. Hey there my fellow fibre artists! I know there’s at least one of you here

[@-tee-]

I'm also working on crocheting! Any specific project you're working on rn ? I'm making a blanket :)

[@crys7208]

I'm working on a doily.

[@tacoflavoredtoys4870]

It would be hilarious if this is Logan paul and ksi trying to offload all their unsold prime drinks

[@maybemablemaples2144]

This is exactly what this is.

[@aliencafe]

I am so convinced this is the case

[@LordArikado]

My favorite bit of this whole Lunchly thing is if you go on their website and look at the page for the pizza one, it proudly advertises in the nutritional comparison that it has LESS protein than Lunchables.

[@williamgregory1848]

- MrBeast Burger - Feastables - Lunchly If MrBeast is your chef, you better run.

[@clarrytheclam]

3:06 Is it not illegal in the USA to externally share data such as addresses without consent...? It definitely is in the UK and EU under GDPR; if a company did that here you could sue them 😅

[@alexakelley2353]

my best guess is that maybe he did “consent” when they initially sent him the prime like maybe he accepted some form of tos or something, plus his P.o. box is just listed on his public instagram so even tho it’s sketchy, i’m not sure the legal ramifications (not trying to defend them btw… if they’re “sharing addresses” like they say then that’s… yikes)

[@BasicGeometry]

Speaking as a gross adult who eats lunchables as a snack, they do not have that amount of empty space

[@aawwaa6356]

MITER BEAT!!

[@SeventhGod77]

Not to be confused with Mister Beat, who is an informative and intelligent guy who just teaches things.

[@schippai3308]

​@@SeventhGod77who's not to be confused with mister beats, who's a totally normal suburban father

[@Pretzi_]

Not to be confused with miser bees whos a professional entomologist

[@scaraptor2106]

@@Pretzi_not to be confused with mr beet, a greengrocer with a very specific market

[@augustmccann7877]

@@SeventhGod77all my homies love mr beat 🙏🙏

[@yeeyeeyeeye]

Keep in mind that Mr. Beast bases his merch primarily on food because unlike buying a T-shirt, you have to keep buying food. Because we need food to live. It's guaranteed continuous income.

[@mastermarkus5307]

I already think he's a piece of shit, but every thing I hear about him makes him seem shittier.

[@bumfricker2487]

beast has one motive: profit optimization, and the best way to do that is to make slop. He's a manufacturer of slop and anything else he says is dishonest - very clearly, you can see the Dead Inside "Marketable" look behind his eyes in every picture and video

[@ToaOfFusion]

Fatphobia has ruined our relationship with nutrition. We assume low-calorie = better for you when, in reality, we are just starving ourselves. Sure, those fast food combos have excessive calorie counts but Lunchly is just the other end of the polar extreme. Kids deserve better.

[@TObyvruh]

I won't lie to you kids deserve to not be obese

[@rtkiff]

7:15, quick note, nearly all cheese made today is made with a GMO as rennet, the thing that makes milk into cheese is synthesized with GM bacteria. The old way that rennet was produced was through a calf’s stomach, so this way is a lot more ethical!

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

I think the comparison to lunchables is a bit disingenuous. Kids go crazy for anything put out by these guys, keeping this crap out of kids hands is going to be much harder than keeping lunchables away from them.

[@FoxerBoxerNaaniwa]

18:30 Kids need calories. Less calories is often bad as far as kid’s food goes. I mean yeah we have a horrific problem with childhood obesity but that is because kids are often marketed extremely calorie dense nutrient poor food. Lunchly has a worse problem. It’s nutrient poor AND calorie poor. Lunchables is a bad lunch product for kids, and Lunchly is just a worse more expensive version.

[@Khodakadahmi]

7:30 WAIT A MINUTE WHY DONT WE HAVE PERSONAL TINY CEREAL BOXES WITH MILK ALREADY TOGETHER????

[@axolirvin971]

Personal size cereals have been a thing for decades. I think the reason they usually aren't paired with milk is that cereal is non-perishable, while milk must be stored in the fridge. One of the personal cereals and a tiny milk box did make a great breakfast on roadtrips and when I went camping as a child though

[@SeventhGod77]

@@axolirvin971actually there is now shelf stable milk options! Both powdered and certain nut milks are capable of being shelf stable and therefore perfectly able to be taken anywhere anytime.

[@axolirvin971]

@@SeventhGod77 Absolutely. I was just thinking about why it wasn't done in the past. Now that plant milks are widely available and mostly liked, I'd love to see something with almond or oat milk

[@Khodakadahmi]

@@axolirvin971 oh I know the tiny boxes, but having a milk and cereal ready to go just sounds like a far superior idea instead of "lunchables but again."

[@BasicGeometry]

Cereal in full packaging can’t get that dry being stored in the fridge with the milk, this is actually genius

[@queencleopatra007]

I don't follow any Mr. Beast news, so whenever you guys said Prime in the first 2 minutes of the video, my mind immediately jumped to Amazon Prime lmao. I was so confused about how you could get that in a PO box 😂

[@Konjillayal7]

Yes! I thought the same thing. 😂

[@crunglemcbungley]

LegalEagle AND Dr. Mike??? What a crossover episode

[@thekambIer]

Nice to finally see someone else talking about it. It feels like so few people are truly covering the extent of his terribleness. So many people seem to be turning a blind eye.

[@Th3Treasoner]

I'll say this, no one who has ever went, "You know what, I want a Lunchable" has then been like, "But it has to have real cheese". If you're eating a Lunchable, you're either ten years old, or have given up giving a fuck.

[@fluffy9161]

Glad youtube started serving these vids on my home page! I don't like committing to a whole podcast when I'm choosing things to listen to, so having these highlights show up has been great for jarvis/jordan content

[@liluziintrovert]

The main controversy and why I hate feastables is 1) they marketed them as “healthy” chocolate, realized they tasted like shit, then changes the recipe to be less healthy than Hersheys and 2) originally were trade free (didn’t use slave labor or child labor) and they recently took that off their website. Also the fact that they never put that one their packaging make me and many others think they always planned to eventually using cocoa obtained by using slavery because that way when they switched they wouldn’t have to change anything factory wise

[@crazyinnocentturtle]

Am i crazy ? Or is that even LESS food thats in a lunchable and those are pretty small

[@bearoace3278]

Yeah the whole boasting about having less calories when it’s marketed to children who shouldn’t be counting them is 😬

[@bigpapamagoo8696]

Advertising a lunch for children as 'low calorie' is so insane because unless you're a morbidly obese child with heart problems you do not have to worry about calories. Just make sure kids eat fruits and vegetables and don't give them too much sugar. Why are these grown men so weird about kids' diets?

[@Thrarm]

low calorie food is good for adults who sit in offices all day and dont want to gain too much weight, low calorie is not good for children who will be running around and playing for large chunks of their days, not to mention kids tend to have faster metabolisms than adults. Low calorie is bad for kids, they need calories

[@Helycon]

It's also absolutely up to what kind of calories and all the other stuff in it. I absolutely agree that less calories does not equal health. They should be eating greens and healthy proteins and not "cheese product" and other close to poison ingredients or in the case of prime literally lead so poison

[@trouty606]

Also I'm with Jarvis, the Lunchables pizzas still hit a serious nostalgia button for me and once every few months I'll get a random craving and grab a couple.

[@JaimesenMoss]

7:03 Jarvis with the pinkie out. Like the gentleman he is

[@Ryzard]

"epic bacon" hit me like a sleeper agent trigger

[@imsmolandangery4274]

I know some parents want to feed their kids low calorie lunch (I don't agree with it) but surely they want that to be healthy food not chocolate, sugary drink. My primary school wouldn't let us bring this except on Fridays because they had a healthy eating initiative.

[@mastermarkus5307]

I think it's good if a parent wants kids to be healthy and not eat stuff with too much sugar or something, but they really can't just judge it based on calories! Most crackers have barely any calories, but they're also not nutritious.

[@ryanthunder3247]

I wish that people who claim to care about kids would actually make food that is good for them. Not a single fruit or vegetable and such low quality food. Clearly they care about only 1 thing, and thats not getting kids good food.

[@xonk9691]

A copy of gatorade + A copy of hershey's = A copy of Lunchables

[@abbywolffe4114]

If I remember correctly, Hank Green explained calories as specifically how much energy you are able to generate/burn based on the particular food (calor=heat). I feel like no one involved in Lunchly knows how food works. LESS FOOD IS LESS ENERGY.

[@folixmute]

came for the lunchly dis, stayed for Jarvis' nerd shelf

[@paulsackman3122]

I've never had a video change title while watching it until today

[@wrenholder8436]

What was the first title??

[@Fivefoot5]

WHAT DID IT SAY AT FIRST

[@SeventhGod77]

YOU CANT NOT ANSWER

[@ANTHURIUMm]

paul we need answers

[@MilkChocolateGeese]

answer, sackman!

[@abbarabba21]

I really love this conversation! It feels good to have clarity on food issues, especially where it concerns the marketing surrounding health benefits of food. This felt like a less formal chat adjacent to what they do over on the podcast Maintenance Phase, and I really enjoyed it (:

[@joshua.h]

I think that the issue with their marketing is that they are calling it a healthier alternative to lunchables. This is technically true, it is a bit healthier than lunchables, but people hear healthier and think healthy. They are very deliberately exploiting this fact to make people think lunchly is healthy, which it most certainly is not. And thus, people who used to not buy lunchables because they were unhealthy will start buying lunchly instead of proper lunch meals that actually give kids the nutrients they need.

[@trash__queen]

I feel like every meal should be at least 500 calories. You should eat 2000 a day, 500 for every meal = 1500 + 500 for either desert or snacks

[@IChaseIYouTube]

That sounds good to me.

[@melaniegonzalez8316]

thank god you guys have explained this because i was so lost and was willing to be lost

[@GregBonks]

Kids are probably going to get bullied for bringing this stuff to school.

[@akisutahatter3245]

i would love to see devin legal eagle on sad boyz, he'd be so interesting to hear longform

[@zooweamama5799]

It’s been a while since I’ve had it but from what I remember lunchables have significantly more food and the packaging is actually designed for the food to fit in it

[@Ghost-lt4sf]

I really appreciate Jarvis repping us adults who still go hard for Lunchables pizza.

[@missheatmisery]

i had the ice pop prime once. i took two sips and could not physically drink anymore bc it tasted like rotten pedialyte to me

[@The_VHS]

Well, I'm sure that after the backlash, Mr Beast and his other controversial friends are... SadBoys. ... I am so sorry please forgive me.

[@SaitoGray]

How kids are supposed to last a day with so little food ? That's insane.

[@its.hasmina]

If you have ever worked with kids you will KNOW how they are when they’re hungry!! It’s hard for them to focus, it’s hard for them to stay calm and they get cranky (just like adults)

[@trouty606]

Honestly what I find grossest of all about this Lunchly shit is just how much it's further trying to brand kids to these assholes. It's like Ronald McDonald in the 80's and 90's trying to make kids associate McDonalds with fun stuff for kids and what you wanted to eat. Now it's just these internet celebrity wieners trying to brain poison kids into consuming their brands more and more. They don't give a shit about kids health, they care about their purchasing power and how much they want to keep their shitty brands in the minds of these kids.

[@phoebebradford7693]

I feel so bad for kids, they literally are just getting worse and worse quality meals :(

[@vehicularmanslaughter1296]

Reminds me of those "lunch bars" from the great depression

[@chaosbeam4654]

Kids need far more calories than that. 230 is not going to last until dinner

[@bsqwahlE]

Marketing to children is an American tradition. Freedumb!

[@baconaterlover5399]

This is so obviously marketed for kids but I don’t see a kid in their right mind liking legally distinct lunchables. They would probably just be interested in it because its got Mr Beast tied to it. Also, Lunchables weren’t quality meals, just something your parents shoved into your lunch so you wouldn’t starve lol. Like as a kid if I saw my favorite KZbinrs making fucking lunchables as a product I’d probably be disappointed.

[@tuhtty]

A low-calorie low-sodium sports drink completely defeats the purpose of a sports drink

[@hunter5w6]

9:16 is such a hilariously cinematic shot, I’m actually impressed

[@scrappyturtle9127]

I hate the prime bottles sm they just look like elf bars

[@kiayamccuin1500]

Children NEED calories!!! Children need food!

[@Mir_Teiwaz]

It looks like they decided to cut costs by using the same plastic container in both the "sandwich" and pizza versions lmao

[@kathryniredale6152]

I fucking hate what the diet industry did to society's perception of calories. And I hate people who push that shit on kids.

[@cosmicmanj]

i legitimately have bought the energy drink prime for my kid brother because they look so similar 😃

[@von186]

i've yet to see an adult drink prime (who wasn't paid) that actually likes prime.

[@gummywormee41]

I remember that as a kid my great grandma would have me count the calories of whatever I wanted to eat, whenever I cane over, made me feel like shit. Esp whenever ny family would specifically target me with "Do you wanna end up like your diabetic grandma?"

[@mountainsnake777]

The first time i saw prime was in a newly opened gas station when i was like a senior in high school And now i literally see it everywhere at almost every grocery store And it has to only be actual children because even i, someone who likes a sugary drink, thought it tasted like complete ass and ive never seen another grown man drinking a prime

[@ChibiChuri]

Kids need more calorie intake, not more sodium

[@Glaycier]

“Less calories” is wild. Calories isn’t the issue. It’s the amount of processed stuff in there or sugars that is bad for you.

[@svenmurphy-deyoung8209]

jarvis trying so hard to not start too much shit while jordan just repeatedly shits on this with not a care in the world is fucking amazing

[@atamapatto]

The first time I drank Prime I had to wash it down with a shot of vodka 💀💀 Waaaay too sweet

[@NightOfTheRevolution]

"It contains forever chemicals" *takes a sip*

[@Angryoyster]

What I feel like people are not mentioning is most of beast fans along with KSI and Logan Paul, are around ages 10-13 that’s the age you start puberty! So you mean to tell me they think kids going through puberty only need 230 calories for lunch. Like in what world is this okay!

[@bootsycollinsno1fan]

I'm so done with people demonizing calories, these kid's bones are literally expanding

[@vitasomething]

is insane

[@marylane6835]

Regarding PFAS: (I've worked in PFAS testing.) The claim about Prime is not unique to the product. PFAS are used in the majority of food packaging. 'PFAS' is actually an umbrella term. There are only carcinogenic implications for a few of the chemicals under the PFAS umbrella. In my opinion, holding Prime to this standard is justified only if other products are given the same scrutiny. Tap water, older non-stick cookware, microwave popcorn, and fire fighting foam are all bigger sources of PFAS chemicals. There are good reasons to be concerned about PFAS, but uniquely criticizing a single product is not the solution.