SadlyItsBradley LIVE Q&A (Summer is Hell Edition)

The Summer is this industry's hell. That being said, it's been about two months since my last stream and there's a ton to talk about. So let's do it! I miss you all!
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[@bluebell1]

I love when you do these types of streams Brad! Thank you! I know it’s hard during the summer months not only for content creators but for those of us in the northeastern states as you said. Add personal things and it’s tough! I love that you are a novBS kind of guy! That’s why I’m a patreon and value your thoughts!

[@VanFS3K]

Eye tracking is a must for the future of VR

[@DMan-ud6bt]

I agree. We won't see great performance paired with improved visuals until driver-level DFR is the norm or at least in most HMDs.

[@RobertA-hq3vz]

The killer app for AR is just letting people meet together in the same space. Especially during the pandemic when everyone was stuck at home, the ability to teleport to your friend's house and just hang out would be really important.

[@djp1234]

I'm getting the Quest 3 solely for the pancake lenses. It will be my main PC VR headset until the Index 2 comes out. I don't care about the tech demos on the Quest store.

[@brotifypacha7275]

Great stream. I wasn't able to be present while it was live, but watched it today.

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Thanks for watching!

[@m0rph3u5.]

I don't usually watch streams (other than ZBrush and Unreal Engine), and this is the first stream outside that group that I totally enjoyed, just like the rest of your videos. Keep it up ;) Bottom line, wait for the Deckard and you won't regret it, don't rush to getting a new VR before you see what Valve has to offer which is likely to be in the BS Beyond range or slightly more but it's likely to have inside-out tracking and foveated rendering. At least that's what I am going to do

[@rickaron7593]

Long live Brad! My favorite thing about you is you help to keep the vr indusry real. No BALONY OR HYPE. Just keeping it real. Thanks

[@Mepper.]

I used to think the Deckard would cost ~$1,000. I now expect it to be at least $1,500. My next headset will most likely be a Quest 3 that I use as a PC headset 80% of the time.

[@vazox3]

Your streams give me just the right Carmack Oculus Connect talk vibes. Love the energy and candidness you bring to the table.🔥💯

[@elliotsolomon1807]

I am all for Cookie Clicker VR!

[@chloe-sunshine7]

I would be shocked if nobody has made this in VR Chat Update: Minesweeper McGee has a video with a link in the description

[@seivaDsugnA]

I like the stinking pain suit.

[@untitledsurfer8503]

By the way, I love your channel, content, you and the stuff you do. That's great and I love that you do talk candidly! I hope you're doing great and I'm happy to support you on Patreon

[@CoolGreenApple]

This VOD made my Saturday overtime bearable, so thanks Brad

[@fettuccine723]

Thank you Brad, great stream 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯😤

[@NowIsGold]

Thank you so much for your in depth knowledge and honesty!💫🙏

[@thatstokedgamer]

Thanks Brad for the videos you upload. You are very much appreciated!

[@0x0michael]

"I'm tired of hype cycles" - Brad Sadly, Valve Deckard Hype Machine and Copium Addict

[@colin8877]

That was a bloody marvelous stream, I was drunk by the end.

[@Fattoxthegreat]

Very nice

[@brunohppl]

awesome stream 🙌 minutes 35-37 really hits home

[@chloe-sunshine7]

Starts at 3:33

[@BB-qp5xo]

Sorry I missed the live stream in Australia where it’s cold. I love the flip up goggles. Exactly what I need. Problem is I also need wireless and 110 degree FOV. Regarding eyetrackers, I need it for my VP2 asap.

[@jayes5066]

i plan on using my quest 2 as my designated pooping headset when quest 3 drops. "pooping in paradise"

[@fischy0339]

i love how i get the notification when its over

[@Zazzlebips]

This stream was great. I was actually able to intentionally listen to it the whole time!!

[@Silverhks]

Good stream Brad. I can't catch you live but that's ok. As for me, I'm living my best life

[@SoggyMicrowaveNugget]

Sad that "Scripted and linear" are bad things when it comes to games according to some people. I love a tailored and well designed experience even if its just magical the first time through. But I guess these kid's grew up on the Copy pasted mission fest that is AAA open world games. 150hrs of Algorithm based grind is what they want apparently. Alyx was a tech demo is a micro-brain from chat take 🙄

[@Fuzzbuggy]

Hi Bradley, I totally agree that stereoscopic 3d in a headset for immersion will definitely be a mainstream thing. Its a big market, and it makes sense. One thing I would like to hear more about Bradley, is the use of BCI to resolve motion sickness.

[@cgromo]

The flip up design is nice, but maybe you could avoid breaking your avatar's neck if you used a parallel bar linkage so the HMD always faces forward but moves up in an arc?

[@goofycart]

VR injector is going to blow up VR

[@diyvrchannel3414]

Like always a great one, lots of info for VR maniac like me ;-) thanks! :-D

[@kevinfleischer2049]

@SadyItsBradley I'm waiting for years to be able to play the "old" 2D Games in VR. Like those Startrek game tables on DS9. Just having a "real 3D/Hologram" display simulated in VR that one could use, would be awesome. Anybody else, who would like this?

[@fischy0339]

also this looks like someone could make this for NVG mounts

[@nickmajora]

I think Quest 5 will be when VR goes mainstream depending on price and specs. I'll define mainstream arbitrarily as selling 50 million and continuing to sell at least that amount each generation going forward.

[@dtz1000]

It's not going mainstream until they solve motion sickness.

[@nickmajora]

@@dtz1000 It's definitely something to solve but with MR there's going to be tons of things to do that don't involve smooth locomotion.

[@dtz1000]

@@jeffreybankers3988 Motion sickness is one of many things holding VR back but maybe you don't hear about it much any more because people who suffered from it sold their headset and are never coming back to VR because of it. I know of at least one person who has done that.

[@teaconnoisseur6339]

love this content!

[@ryc2236]

Hey Brad, you probably already know about this stuff but the flip up design is what the og WMR headsets used. There is a ton of DIY stuff for those designs that you could build off of. For instance, a rubber band mod to hold the headset to your face and off your face.

[@redgeciccone8218]

Hi Bradley, do you think the Quest 3 will still be distorted around the edges in augmented reality.

[@C6v1999]

I'm a simmer so the Bigscreen Beyond just isn't good enough for my use case. On my Aero, I have eye-tracking and DFR, auto-IPD plus a small cooling fan for comfort. Also 90hz is supported at max resolution, and you can't say that for BSB. Right now, my next headset might be the Somnium VR1. I wish Valve would at least give us a timeline because Deckard is smoke and mirrors until then.

[@agingmirror4524]

this googles looks lilke the head of the robot, number 5 from movie short Circuit black edition

[@StubbyPhillips]

Standalone VR is to PCVR what mobile gaming is to PC gaming. Pretty simple, really. There's a place for both, but the former will never match the latter.

[@Samsaraslug]

eh...the gameplay is mostly the same since the games are mostly being developed for both. So now the biggest difference for most releases is just the graphics Games like half life alyx and sprint vector are the exception sadly

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

if someone makes a standalone headset that uses controllers like the valve knuckles I'll probably not bother with a dedicated PCVR rig. many of these standalones can function with PCVR as well, so it's not that big of an issue, just more weight on the face.

[@StubbyPhillips]

@@InvidiousIgnoramus The real problem is that since most things will be "dumbed-down" (graphically) to run on standalone the PCVR versions aren't likely to take *FULL* advantage of the additional GPU power, CPU power, storage space and memory the PC _could_ provide. This leads people who don't really think things through to believe that the difference between what standalone and PCVR can do is much less than it actually is. The difference is, in fact, *ENORMOUS.*

[@noergelstein]

@HaroldSchmaroldExactly, modern smartphones are very powerful, they aren’t really limited by processing power. They are limited by small screen sizes that is also partly blocked by the input and the input itself. For VR, there is no difference between PCVR and mobile input and output (apart from graphical fidelity).

[@StubbyPhillips]

​@@noergelstein It _IS_ the graphical fidelity that I describe as "dumbed down" and it _literally_ makes a world of difference (to me at least.) If having MUCH larger worlds composed of WAY more meshes with much higher complexity, higher resolution textures (and more of them), WAY more sophisticated materials and lighting, higher resolution shadows and reflections, advanced post-processing and effects, better physics and on and on and on (essentially way more and much better everything) just isn't important to you then by all means, have fun. Speaking only for myself, however, I'm just not interested in "Lo-Fi" standalone VR. I'm not saying there isn't a place for it, there absolutely IS, just as there's a place for mobile games. And _yes_ "the gameplay is what matters." I get that, but assuming we have that in both cases, I'll take mine with better looking, *_more immersive_* graphics. In some cases the standalone version _will_ look better than the PC version because it was designed and optimized for the limitations of standalone. *THAT IS THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM!* What we get for PC is hobbled by the need to make it run on standalone. No dev is going to go through the effort to make two completely different versions. They're going to build for the lowest common denominator then maybe add a few little extras for the PC version. If it had been designed and optimized only for PC in the first place it _could_ be WAY better.

[@ChesterMeadows]

I've got alot out of my quest 2 but coming in line wirh Brads estimations, i might just wait a bit on quest 3. I need to upgrade my tv and just have an Series s atm. Maybe getting a series x/ps5 and a banger 4k tv is the better choice from a gamers perspective. I think itll be another decade before it offers a no doubt crazy insane, compelling experience good though it is already.

[@adr2t]

Agree! Too much focus on "it needs to be cheap and basic" for the average joe. They need to focus on the higher end some still - they are the people that uses it the most - they are the people that talk about the project and how it can be used - they are the ones that bring their friends over when they can afford it. They are the ones that they should look at it to some level first - get VR into a good enough state - and the rest will come naturally. Like why is there no software for VR yet? Thats the craziest thing if you ask me! Games are amazing, but without basic usage outside of that - thats all it will ever be and while it can work (steam), you need more than that to really draw in people at a platform level. For the hype - there are a lot that happen between. I think the problem is there just never a studdy stream of new things coming even though this is a wild west hardware and software. Software doesnt get as talk about it - over time (maybe a week or two), but after that people will either want to talk about something else or compare. Once there has been nothing new over a month - the "Hype" dies after that as there really isnt much more to talk about. At least of what I notice. Long life cycles + cancel or delay projects + two side of the same VR platform (PC, Stand Alone) also doesnt help when they focus on just one of those too. Meta being Stand Alone heavy kills off a lot of why should I use these headsets? I mainly work on PC - why do I need to choose between all three? Just some basic limitations I see here and there when working with VR in general thats kind of annoying. PCVR is pretty much kill off at this point - making the top end games kind of... well.. dumb to watch out for when they will be cap visually later to match the bandwidth of the USB cable. Q3 is going to be more of the same from Meta - they havent learn their lession and will continue down the dumb path they been doing for a while. Granted, they did remove a lot jobs so there is a lot of fat trim now, but I really dont think it will matter. Meta CTO and STO really dont understand the community and what they want. They certainly have to back track in their comments because they keep repeating the same stuff no one wants to hear making it pretty obs we're in for more hurt later down the road. One thing I would love VR to do is make use of my PC - let it render some applications and then bring them over to my headset. No, not like stream my desktop, but just some applications that can work on my headset anywhere on the go with me. For example, take outlook. Sure sure it can be added as an app, but my point is more bare bones of what if that app wasnt an app yet, but I could have it stream over and act like it was part of the headset? Or add a sim card to my headset and next thing you can get support for on the go VR commutation? Like messages or email or even better yet or even making a cell phone call over to the love ones to check in on them? Add face time application for both platforms that can "see" when there is a call coming in and allow you chat with that same person too. Problem is you need the hardware there for sure or the ability to upgrade the headset - and I think that also missing from a ground setup. They made it soo cheap they are selling you a single desing box unit. There is no upgrade path for the headset. Like what if they did remove the CPU/GPU and put it into its own box instead with the battery? At that stage you could keep the same VR headset - but upgrade the core - or vis ver. Other wise, I still think Meta wasting time and money on projects that are not even close to being real. They need to focus on getting people into VR - but more importantly, continue to use VR long term over time. Making it easy to get in and out of VR, working with VR and the real space, and using it on the go. Other wise, people will just simply pick it up .. use it a few times.. and then it just collects dust. Comfort needs to still be a thing and not always an optional choice. Top straps need to be there - not an option upgrade that adds it in. They have the information on all this stuff - its not like its new information. They also need to work with the community - not try to scare them away like tehy did you with the leak information. They need to embrace the talks and communication people have with this information on hand not be scared away from it. It really just sounds like one guy problem that is causing a bunch of fuss and I think its BallzsWard. One last thing is the design and shape of beyound though is also a killer for many. I understand you can get custom lenses if you wear glasses - but thats really not going to work for the many out there - more so I think its really draw back of their design. While it might work for you, in the future it might not as your eyes get weaker/older. That means you have to keep spending on customer lenses you might not be able to reuse for another headset or as thing change for FoV and other effects. Same thing for adjusting the IDP between many different users and selling to a customer base that does tend to scale between the two. Optical tracking is also the future - not LH tracking. Room limits wont work in the future too ... as things need to still continue on the path of being able to use VR "anywhere" as the technology moves forward. Being limited to LH tracking is a real kicker as its limited to a single room (for the setup) and/or require more hardware - but still be limited to the space you are in. Let alone for the price of the hardware doesnt make it cheap to add on with. Works for the people that already have it of course, but nothing a new user will want to spend money on. or simiply skip over it as again other headset on the market does exist that doesnt have that requirement anymore. Sorry I wrote a lot :D Wish I was there to talk with you:)

[@SadlyItsBradley]

I really appreciate the long post. I get frustrated with things too. And talking so much about it comes from a place of passion. So I get it

[@ghostdawg4690]

I have questions about Ai, AR for now and I can’t wait or waist time because things are changing so fast. I don’t want to get into it here.

[@ghostdawg4690]

That’s why I’m here now learning what I can.

[@mikeb3172]

It's the $2 apps Meta is trying to push for $500-1500 headsets that ruined a lot of interest... together with the terrorist first-person knife crime simulator, pew pew reload simulator, and disinterested boss kill-order simulator. $1500 for $2 experiences.

[@tomoprime217]

The more I hear and see the beyond the more I feel comfortable in avoiding this iteration. A few too many compromises at the high price. The ergonomics also seem a tad bit off since the community seems to alter it's stock configuration.

[@ReavoEnd]

Try not to confuse "tinkering because it's fun" with "altering the stock config for comfort". It's a headset for enthusiasts, and many enthusiasts love to tinker and try new things. Who besides Brad has changed the stock configuration, anyway? Beyond isn't shipping production units yet.

[@VR_Aviator]

I just want a headset I can plug into my PC. No standalone, no video compression, and comfortable. Beyond will probably be my next headset.

[@dtz1000]

DPVR E4?

[@VR_Aviator]

@dtz1000 Thanks. I should have mentioned that I'm already using a Reverb g2. The e4 would not be an upgrade.

[@williamgeorge5049]

Great video. So do you feel comfortable saying that the Beyond is a great Index replacement? I want to replace my Index with the Beyond and wanted your recommendation.

[@SadlyItsBradley]

It’s replaced my index with a lot of asterisks there. I see it as a good sidegrade

[@jayes5066]

on the hoping quest 3 revives channels, the new youtube forced ad policy will kill any of that potential momentum. I would suggest they demonitize themselves (for offical youtube ads) and stick to targeted sponsorship (ad reads) supposedly the comedy podcasters say it makes them much more, ads are better targeted (more conversion) and are skipable to not alienate your viewers. with youtube blocking ad blockers I'l only watch live and police shooting videos that are already demonitized

[@nbkw6ma]

You look like Doc from Back to the future

[@handlemonium]

Is Lynx R1 quad-dioptric technically "stitch pancake lenses"

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Sorta, but I know that lens system is probably not gonna be used again now that pancake is more affordable and available.

[@RobertA-hq3vz]

I'm thinking don't put the eye tracking cameras in the headset, put it in the cushions.

[@dtz1000]

1:14:40. Local dimming not going to get a mention here? Quest Pro has local dimming but Quest 3 won't. Virtual Reality Oasis is a more influential reviewer so if it bombed because of anyone it was him. Quest Pro is so much better now than it was back then because of all the improvements made to it since then. I hope Meta learns to listen to us as it was obvious to many here that it would fail miserably.

[@SadlyItsBradley]

I genuinely think for most people, local dimming won’t be enough to persuade them to sacrifice the extra 500 dollars for the quest pro over quest 3

[@dtz1000]

@@SadlyItsBradley Totally agree, but I managed to get it way cheaper than the retail price. I would be gutted right now if I paid the retail price for it.

[@jazzdirt]

Cynical is not the word.. I think Realistic is the word..

[@tasmania9576]

🖖🏼Nice one!

[@Itsallgoodtogo]

Definitley subscribed because you are a bit more cynical :)

[@ForComments-k7t]

Ppl talking about stuff being scripted and linear. Well, Movies are scripted and linear and ppl love them. Books are probably also scripted 🙂Nothing bad with a good scripted game. It's different then open games. Just like rts are different to rpg. It's a different meta-genre. Does not make it worse though.

[@seivaDsugnA]

Brad baby. This is possibly the most disappointing video you've produced yet, and the first that conjures visions of you doing cardio in a leotard. You make me sad. Well done!

[@vrgamer5045]

啊，来晚了

[@GoogleSucks12666fyt]

Nintendo 3DS XL VR/XR headset

[@VirtualWeeknd]

Love your info! Glad valves afraid if you, they should be with data mining, you gave me hope for the Deckard! But when you look through the strings it gives us hope for everything. Same thing about the DiverX Gloves the big changes comes with them you give us hope they exist!! “Deckard Forever”-@sadleyitsbradley ”We believe”- @sadleyitsbradley

[@GoogleSucks12666fyt]

Pokemon go MR/XR version

[@metaphysicalfuck]

Brad, I am VERY dissapointed that you did NOT begin with a "Hi! I'm Brad...and [...]" I will never watch a video ever again, you have made me lose interest over VR news forever and ever