Quest 3... One Month Later

After nearly two months of using the Quest 3 as a daily driver, I finished finalizing my thoughts on the hardware and consumer experience. And put them into REVIEW VIDEO FORM
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0:00 Quest 3 Review (Finally)
2:08 The "Quest Pro" Effect
4:30 XR2+ Gen 1 was a mistake
9:13 Displays and Optics
15:00 Monitor Replacement?
19:30 Other Visual Artifacts
21:00 Standalone vs PC VR
23:53 Comfort and Design
30:23 Controllers
35:28 Hand Tracking (still sucks)
40:39 Augmented Reality Occlusion
43:10 Passthrough Quality
46:52 Operating System/Software
51:44 Mixed Reality (and its Gimmicks)
56:20 Battery Life
57:57 Audio Quality
1:00:20 Final Thoughts
#Quest3 #VirtualReality #Meta

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. Consider supporting me on Patreon so I can continue my suffering on future XR hardware reviews ♥ bradsmells.com/patreon

[@technikchegger7228]

👍

[@Codybakes]

Is there a 3rd party mic that you could use? Not sure if it’s possible or not.

[@madhououinkyoma]

Nice TED talk haha

[@algee2005]

​@@Codybakes it's possible, you can pair bluetooth headphones to the bluetooth interface, but you really don't wanna use it over the built in mic, because it adds heavy audio delay for whatever reason. at least for sound output, i expect the same to apply to sound input. and then there are wireless headphones that connect via usb-c dongle, you can plug these into the headset, but you will lose the ability to charge the headset midgame, which also is less then optimal. i think anker made some of these. will have to look into that once i decided whether i keep my Q3. and it's really kind of shocking to me that we have to jump through these hoops. they built this awesome device that excels in so many aspects and levels, and the one where you'd expect them to really care about they completely neglect. the people responsible for this mess should reconsider their life choices.

[@Andrew-qb3oq]

I appreciate that this review is longer than Quest 3 battery lasts.

[@arupian666]

LOL ! harsh, but oh, so true. Actually watching this during a recharge break.

[@olemortenelstad2571]

Same here. :D @@arupian666

[@adamb89]

Even with the elite strap and WHILE PLUGGED INTO THE WALL the battery dies! Now granted, I have to really be putting it through its paces for the power draw to exceed the recharge rate, but compared to my Valve Index which had infinite run time, 8 hours sucks.

[@mikejohnson3338]

I appreciate the limited battery. It reminds me to limit my sessions to 30-45 minutes. Longer sessions aren't good for you!

[@adamb89]

@@mikejohnson3338 According to whom? I've never seen anything that supports that claim. At least, not anymore than the standard "every 20 minutes look at something 20 feet away for 20 seconds" that applies to any computer use.

[@weevilman]

Good on you, dude, appreciate your work and those of your collaborators hugely, have a good one!

[@jonwilliams6996]

The Quest Pro IS a monitor replacement... If you're monitor is a 1024 x 768 TN LCD from 2003.

[@Cuperino]

Please consider making that video about things VR desktop environments should have that current implementations don’t. As a FOSS developer and Linux user, this is a topic that fascinates me.

[@Shunderz]

Wow, at first I saw the length of this video and thought "1 hour? I ain't sitting through allat". But then I sat through allat. 😳 So... let me throw you a wild hypothetical (and I know this might sound like the Mad Hatter speaking here, but hear me out): If you never owned a VR headset before in your life (already some joker level clown-sanity right there), and you had to choose between a Quest Pro and a Quest 3 at the exact same price, for gaming as your main objective, which would you choose?

[@SaysSim0n]

Q3, ur welcome

[@santaclause1329]

Great video Brad! Love to see an honest technical video review of this headset! Keep up the awesome work!

[@epsypolym]

brandly this isnt decard news???? wtf

[@njiok100]

The steam deck oled was the Deckard.

[@Splarkszter]

​@@njiok100Don't thin so....

[@ia8789]

​@@njiok100🤣

[@snerttt]

Erm, yah.

[@njiok100]

laugh all you want but the Deckard isnt coming out@@ia8789

[@jamesmccombe6269]

Thanks again for your detailed assessment

[@EmmaTorch]

Thank you for your in depth review of this! I appreciate it!

[@SeanoldBeasley]

I am watching this on my quest three right now. Always great content from you, Brad. Keep up the good work.

[@Jesus_616_Christ]

Lol same 😂

[@Jesus_616_Christ]

@LowlyKnight1 I actually did not have a quest 2 before this. The quest three is my first VR headset, however one of my friends has had the quest 2 for a few years and I've played on it for hours, the screen looks far less blurry, and you don't see those damn pixels lol. The resolution is better, and the UI is smoother, I'd say it's worth the upgrade, but it is pricey. Pass through is WAY better than quest 2, but it's not as good as ppl online make it out to be, same for the AR. It's good, I've played a few games that use it, but it ain't 500 good. Reminds me of the 3ds AR cards lol (the hand tracking is lit)

[@grim436]

Is the vignette really that big a deal? Brad is the only guy I've ever seen mention it and after a quick search there are only a couple of unpopular reddit posts where people say it's bad and have even returned it because of it.

[@Jesus_616_Christ]

@grim436 honestly, it might be due to quality controll because mine has less vignette than the quest 2 did, the sweet spot is also way bigger, but I also read about vignette issues which made me hesitant to buy it. I also saw battery issues, which I can confirm it does die pretty quick HOWEVER I was able to get it to last way longer when I turned the brightness down to 70% (it looks just fine at 70%) I'm also looking to buy a battery pack headset but the bobo one I keep hearing about is always out of stock LOL

[@SeanoldBeasley]

@@grim436 I do notice it, but it does not bother me at all. The one thing that kind of does bother me is on an all white screen. I have some minor distortions due to uneven, pixel lighting and occasional god rays when Lights are on top of me in some games.

[@Kukurio]

Loving this review. Solid. Agree !

[@user-wb9og3wq5v]

Love the video, love the shirt. Love you, Brad!

[@tijldeclerck7772]

Great review Brad!

[@RuliManurung]

Wow, this is a great review. Very detailed and balanced. I'll be honest, this is the first video I've watched from you, even though you've popped up in my feed a few times, as I'd always dismissed the channel as similar to the others I've watched that are just barely regurgitating press releases, but I'm so glad to have watched this. I agree completely with your assessment. The Quest 3 is pretty much an improvement on the Quest 2 in every way, and yet it still falls short of all the things Meta aspires to (or at least how they're marketing it). Keep up the great work!

[@BenGoodsonModular]

The lack of first-party software is baffling. The lack of cohesion between competing ideas (hand tracking versus controllers) is baffling.

[@fen4554]

They already had a lack of software.. to release new hardware without some kind of killer app to sell it is beyond understanding. And I have yet to see a single app or game that uses my pro controller features.

[@BlackMarketHoney]

Great review Brad.

[@nrnoble]

This is a great Indepth video for the Quest 3. Virtual reality headsets are still in the early days compared to what they will be 10-20+ years from now. Much like the early days of home computers in the early days in 1980s (Apple II, C64, PC) or gaming systems (First gen 2600, Nintendo, Playstation). Or, if you look back at the first cell phones in the early 1990 that at best could store 10 contacts. In those early days the technology was too expensive or did not provide enough functionality that made the technology appealing enough for the mass public to adopt (ie The Tipping point). There will come a day where virtual reality will be huge much like the smart phone is today, but for that to happen the technically needs to improve many fold so that is far more useful and compact. It needs to be reduced to the size of typical glasses. Maybe like in the movie "Brainstorm" where the majority the hardware is not in headset, but remote device and the headset is small simple display device that does not interfere with regular activity.

[@Puffycheeks]

Excellent collected thoughts, really appreciate the work you put into this review Brad!

[@VanGohman]

Excellent work as always. Just signed up to your Patreon, because you give the whole VR Community hope for the future. Truly a light in the darkness that is the road to more enjoyable VR. I still love my Quest Pro alongside my Quest 3. The main downside to the pro is no matter how much juice you can give your headset, you only get 4 hours out of the controllers. :D Having both the PRO and the 3 helps, because even if the Pro's controllers go out, I can just switch over to the 3 while the PRO takes a nap. :D The brightness of the PRO really helps things look more real from an experience standpoint. I agree the local dimming can be a mixed bag, but the overall color and brightness just adds something missing from the Quest 3 for PC VR. If the next PRO has mini OLED with these kinds of lenses, it will be a new plateau of eye candy if they can get things bright enough on the high end to go along with those discrete black levels. Whooo Boy!

[@ocarinaholder5270]

Awesome review! Thanks Chadley

[@ImBananaElite]

Not all Quest 3 have Murra, if your unit have some, send it back !

[@K3vyB]

Can confirm, going through multiple units it's obvious that some have shit mura, some have absolutely none, and my latest one has absolutely ass mura on the left lens while having none on the right one...

[@yaelm631]

Thanks you Brad for your very complete review! Yeah the eye tracking is a bummer, but I have great hope for their future headsets seeing how great is the Q3

[@adriankoch964]

This was a pretty good review, no worries about the length and I hope VR manufacturer are seeing this, since you made so many good observations there.

[@vazox3]

Hi Brad, awesome video! I love your in depth reviews and could listen to it hours on end. Maybe a podcast isn't the worst idea. Heard there is a lot of money in podcasting right now. Maybe spotify is looking to bloster their tech portfolio with one of the most hardcore VR tech pros ;)

[@FlorianFahrenberger]

Do you happen to know if Bluetooth microphones might be an option for the Quest 3? Like the Soundcore VR P10 that also pass charging to the Quest, and have very low latency. I don't know how the mic sounds (I don't usually play social VR), and even with their proprietary low latency protocol, it's not really suited for competitive Beat Saber playing, but for social VR, Bluetooth headphones with a decent mic might actually be a valid option...

[@BionicFreakOfficial]

I don't understand the love for the Index. I was among the very first to get it, and at that time, it was amazing. I had only ever had a Vive, so the upgrade was massive. Soon after, the Quest 1 came out and I immediately bought it. The Quest 1 was obviously not visually on the same level, but it was cool to finally have a truly standalone VR headset, so I was content with my purchase. But then the Quest 2 came out... The Quest 2 immediately made me want to completely replace my Index, but the only thing holding me back was the controllers. I needed to be able to track my hands without needing to see them, so I could not put my Index (and it's horribly horrid Knuckles) back in the box quite yet. And then the Quest Pro came out... Now I was not about to spend a ridiculous $1500 on a failed project, but those $300 Pro Controllers?... Oh yes, indeed. Now I had finally obtained the last piece of the puzzle I required to put the Index back in it's box. Now that I've upgraded to the Quest 3, there is beyond no reason to ever even think about glancing at my Index again. The Quest 3 is vastly superior in every way, especially when paired with the Pro Controllers. It disturbs me that I keep hearing people mention other headsets, especially garbage overpriced headsets like the Bigscreen HMD and the Pico. The only people mentioning those headsets, as if they are a valid option, either hate Facebook (which I'd understand) or own shares of the companies selling those garbagely overpriced headsets. I do wish the Quest 3 kept the Pro's eye-tracking though...

[@adamb89]

It took a Quest 3 to get me to put my Index away actually. Up until this, the Index WAS king. And the fact that started off as strong as it did and remained relevant for so long...yeah. Index may be a relic now, but it was a power-player worthy of serious respect.

[@vroitwyrd]

Absolutely agree with your opinions on the Quest OS. Thank you for talking about it. They still have problems with basic functionality while adding more buggy features. There are still display artifacts and saturation banding that has been around since v53 or so. The Rift App feels extremely neglected. Had to RMA my pro controller because their firmware bricked it. Smart people: making complex things easy and easy things complex. Edit: +1 for being tethered to a wall plug. This has worked great for me.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Yep and it very bear bones softwear wise to the point of holding back the hardwear... Like the HMD wants to track any and all hands infront of it but it can't only two hand or only 2 controls and it can't separate them... Also hands should work in Steam/PCVR but they don't despite being able to as evedeced by the hands menu showing up but they don't work even as controlers.

[@athe5217]

Seconded to the pro controller issue. My controller bricked itself the other day and they refused to replace it because I was "out of warranty". Like, bro, your controller killed itself, I don't care if I'm warranty or not just replace the thing "you" broke.

[@3d1stp3rs0n]

Great video, thanks! 👍 What's this red device with the letters GVM in the background?

[@Nohkral]

Hi looking for a laptop to play with my quest 3. Any recommendations while cyber monday is out? Maybe around 1k unless its a must to pay more for much better

[@luisbarragan6495]

Whats a good external battery pack to use with quest 3 that will keep it charged while I play?

[@SmartLightDimwit]

Brad, what is your current stance on the Big Screen Beyond? I musta saw a Linus Tech Tips video where he was saying he preferred the dimmer display.

[@m.g.9334]

So there is a big difference between a wifi 6e Router and a 6 one, in Color bending? Even if the regular one is dedicated router for Streaming only?

[@lordxxxrahl]

This is one of the best breakdowns for the Quest 3 I’ve ever seen. Thanks so much for your insight! 🙏🏼

[@danielrad7835]

what headset would you recommend for vr-starter that got a pc with a 4090? i was considering bigscreen beyond but there will be a lot of costs with controller and tracker and headset and lenses which combines over 2000 Euros but some reviewers also said that the lenses are really small and a german youtuber recommended the quest 3... what is your recommendation for a vr newbie?

[@bjorn980]

Hi, Would you recommend a Quest 3 or Bigscreen Beyond or another one? I've been able to test the Valve Index for a week so far. I found the tracking & controller very good! However, heat and weight as well as blurring, i.e. the sweet spot problem when wearing glasses was annoying. I also have the problem with the Quest 2, extremely difficult to get a sharp picture! But I don't really need standalone, but it's interesting if you want to play wirelessly in the garden, because the space in the flat is very limited. Yesterday I set the Hz of the Quest 2 from 80 to 120 and that was a world of difference for me! So I'm afraid that the Bigscreen Beyond has too little Hz and the FOV is too small? However, I am attracted by the good tracking and above all the low weight. What do you think? I wish you a happy new year, Björn

[@nagorak666]

Comfort definitely is one of the biggest shortcomings of the headset. Regardless of the resolution, the headset definitely isn't comfortable enough to use it as a monitor replacement. The headset is quite heavy and particularly front heavy. Out of the box the stock strap is uncomfortable as hell, but even if you replace it with a decent strap with a counterweight, it's still too heavy to want to use it for many hours doing productivity style tasks. If you have no choice (actual VR/MR experiences) then you can tolerate the discomfort, but if all you are doing is working on a monitor anyway then it makes more sense to just do so directly rather than with a headset on.

[@user-br3oe1lc5y]

id imagine it would be for someone who wants to do work while being at a park or something similar. still, finger tracking is iffy at best. im not sure if a wireless keyboard would connect to it

[@chadlbradly2942]

@@user-br3oe1lc5ywireless keyboards can connect to it

[@NeonPizzas]

Quest 3 is a heck of a lot more comfortable than PSVR2, using the silicone interface, imo. PSVR2 hurts to wear, due to the awfully tiny sweet spot which forces you, depending on your head shape, to have the front visor resting at the bridge of your nose, and there's NO padding. It's horrible. You have to fight through the pain, and that isn't fun. What was Sony thinking!?...Releasing a tethered headset, with fresnel lenses, and the comfort level of a Medieval torture device, in 2023. They dropped the ball hard, straight out of the gate. This headset will forever remain niche with poor to mediocre sales. It's also bulky, and those giant rings encapsulating the controllers look terrible too, and i hate how it's display trades motion clarity for brightness. The reality is, it doesn't matter how many incredible games it gets(like RE Village, RE4, Moss: Book 2 etc), because it's tarnished by a handful of idiotic design/feature decisions that the vast majority will not be able to get on board with. Quest 3 nearly corrects all of my nagging issues and then some, it's practically a home run for a budget consumer headset. I just wish it had OLED-blacks, richer vibrant colours, eye tracking & Foveated Rendering to utilize more power, adaptive triggers, better haptics and more 3rd party support from JPN devs like Capcom etc. But then you're looking at well over a grand(CAD). enter the Quest 3 Pro, in 2025 i guess. ;)

[@sleeve9097]

looking good brad

[@spookykid666]

I have a pixel that shows up super bright on a white background but I really have to look for it. It doesn't show up on black background or any other color it has to be on pure white. Any idea what this is? Can't be dead or stuck since it changes to other colors no issue its just a different shade of white than the other whites ones near it.

[@Dudeinator]

when are you releasing the deckard??!

[@zora_tech]

Just curious if you ever tried out the Vive XR elite. It's not very comfortable but I was able to snag one for about $500 but I am not 100% satisfied with it. I still use my quest 1 for wireless PCVR and I do noticed the upgrade in quality with the XR elite. I just want them to release the face and eye tracker soon and see if that will change my mind on the headset. Otherwise I will have to either wait for the next quest headset that offers face and eye tracking or wait for valve to announce the deckard officially.

[@AnalogX64]

What are your thoughts on the leaked info about the Quest 3 Lite? Sounds like it will be the same as a Quest 2 but with the upgraded processor and different storage options.

[@rickaron7593]

Loved your video. I was thinking how come the Brad's not talking about the Audio. But you did! The very last moments. You covered everything and some. Know one does hardware like you. Keep it going!

[@Pepperjack57IsAwesome]

How do I disable Fixed Foveated Rendering in Virtual Desktop?

[@BayernMunchenFan11]

ive never used a vr headset, but want to get one. i was thinking ill get a valve index and then wait for the beyond. would the index still be the go to? i honestly just wanna play hella modded skyrim vr.

[@CaryMGVR]

Thanks!

[@boblatouche2273]

so you prefer this one vs the pimax crystal

[@AlexeyGopachenko]

Thank you for your work)

[@nickmajora]

I'm here for Brad's hair.

[@BlueHound]

Couldn't the vignetting be corrected by brightening the edges and darkening the center of the display? Think of it as an inverse curve. It wouldn't be able to get all the way to the edges but as an option it should be able to create a larger region of constant brightness. I was more concerned with the vignetting at the edges when I first wore the Quest 3. I find that over time, I notice it less.

[@Nk36745]

Good insights

[@rynoman5527]

I am new to vr and is thinking about getting the quest 3. Iv never used one before but i very interesting. What do you think

[@FernandoC]

Do you think it's worth getting the 512, or is it better to get the 128 and spend the money on software?

[@michaelmiles1425]

Please tell me one of these days we can watch you and John Carmack talk about the future of XR!!

[@Theehannle]

That would be neat. Carmack is about as futurist as it gets as far as technology.

[@bigpappa_]

Yeah, the hand tracking really does leave a lot to be desired. Thanks a lot for this awesome video.

[@0terminater0]

Really curious to get your thoughts on the Vive XR Elite, since you could pick them up used for ~$500 making it semi competitively priced

[@robertpetrie2536]

Old chip, limited library, lower resolution and refresh rate to quest 3. Competitive in what universe?

[@ferencivanics9980]

Thanx!

[@joaquinvelasquez6252]

Best intro! I can recommend this review to my friends still on the fence with VR because that "Honeymoon" phase is over by now. Love how you say that off the bat.

[@masterman3349]

Love your stuff Brad! I don’t plan to get a Quest 3 because I already have the Pro and almost exclusively play PCVR (and the Bigscreen beyond should be on its way soon) but it was definitely interesting to see your thoughts on the headset. You’re definitely my go to for anything VR, really appreciate the time you put into this!

[@RolandDobbins]

Quest 3 is definitely worth it for PCVR.

[@masterman3349]

@@RolandDobbins I personally don't like the latency, compression, or overhead running Oculus software or VD requires to play PCVR games. Plus I already have lighthouses so I'm planning for the Bigscreen Beyond to become my go-to. However if you're new to VR or don't have lighthouses I would definitely agree that the Quest 3 is the best all around value headset you can get. Those Facebook pancake lenses are pretty dang impressive.

[@RolandDobbins]

@@masterman3349 - running Quest 3 on a clean WiFi 6e network via Virtual Desktop/OpenXR Toolkit while using the AV1 10-bit codec exhibits imperceptible latency & compression, FYI.

[@bullshitdepartment]

​@@RolandDobbinsif you can get virtual desktop to run well ...

[@RolandDobbins]

@@bullshitdepartment - runs great for me on a clean WiFi 6E network.

[@matslarsson5988]

I'm not a rich guy by any means but I really appreciate your work. 😘

[@kmanz60]

Would you say it’s good for sim racing? Are there better headsets for vr sim racing?

[@silvrsurfer]

1 hour???? Hold on lemme grab some popcorn real quick

[@paulbrooks3232]

1:02:55 Bradley, tell us how you really feel about the microphone. BTW, will you be reviewing the Varjo XR-4 just released?

[@marblemunkey]

Glad you mentioned the screen dimming around the edges. I'm adjusting and no longer notice it every time, but coming from the Quest 2 it was one of the first things that I noticed. It's in almost exactly the same location as the fresnel banding on the Quest 2, so it's still a 100% an improvement, just different.

[@marblemunkey]

Also, re: adding "virtual" monitors, I use hdmi plugs. Windows thinks it's a real monitor. This was the only way to get my headless VR machine to work for a long time.

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

Glad you mentioned that about hand tracking, Thought it may have just been me when trying to select it just moves away and ends up clicking something else.

[@DaveSimkus]

The pinching to select definitely needs to be improved. As you said, it moves the cursor right as you're about to select something. Even if you hover the cursor you'll see it wiggle about quite wildly, making it very difficult to be accurate with selections. I do however still love the convenience of hand tracking instead of having to pick up the controllers, especially when not gaming.

[@tal_os8148]

I gotta say I enjoy mixed reality wayyy more than I thought I would, it seemed like a gimmick but I genuinely use it over my virtual home/virtual desktop environment. Ironically because the lenses or so clear the sde is quite a bit more noticable for me but as someone who's first headset was a rift cv1 I'm not complaining lmao. One thing that I'm suprised you didn't touch on was the fan, in quiet environments I can hear it ramping up and down which actually gets a little annoying at times, but hey the performance you get in return is worth it :3

[@RL_Stine_88]

What is that thing that says GVM behind him??

[@dikens007]

This is by far the best Quest 3 review out there. Thank you! I like the format and you mentioned all the important things I needed to know about the headset, how it compares to the rest of VR devices, and how to set my expectations. I wish more mainstream reviewers were doing, what you are doing ... thoughtful and detailed opinions, not just talking about specs and providing benchmark numbers, but rather giving us full picture of device potential. Please don't ever change :)

[@theegodelpozo]

You can only compare this with the hp reverb g2 (in resolution) but with day and night sweet spot improvement and better software and tracking. With the big boys (Pimax crystal, bigscreen and varjo) less resolution but way better reliability and performance. No way I would recommend the Crystal over this for example because it's a pain in the VR. If you want to achieve excellence we're still green, we need 2 or 3 more years I think.

[@milannesic5718]

It is not. He skipped FOV talk

[@ConservativeJuggaloPodcast]

If you have a decent PC already, Quest 3 is worth looking into. If not, a PS5 & PSVR 1 is even a better option.....but the PSVR 2 is more current tech but the library isn't as good as its predecessor.

[@NeonPizzas]

I'd like to know what exactly the Q3's motion persistence is. Brad said that it was rocking 85 nits with 'smooth' motion. The PS VR2, at best, with it's VR brightness slider cranked to '0' offers 65nits(20 nits dimmer than Q3) with a 2ms motion persistence. We need 1ms or sub 1ms for eye retina motion clarity, with zero motion blur.

[@NeonPizzas]

@@ConservativeJuggaloPodcast Resident Evil 4 VR mode is coming out for PS VR2 in 6 days, nothing on Q3 will come close to touching that. R It's another high budget scarce VR anomaly that's going to have everybody's jaw hitting the floor. The pancake version of RE4R felt like such a massive step backwards compared to playing through Village on PVSR2. Thank god i drop out 3 hours in once the VR mode was announced.

[@knightowl1985]

I am interested in seeing him do a video of what his dream headset would be if he could design one.

[@BOLL7708]

I might have fallen asleep for some parts of this but I did enjoy the raw honesty on display, that is, Brad on display, yes, show us more of you Brad.

[@robmoore2625]

Please do a comparison between Virtual Desktop, Immersed and vSpacial?

[@Liefx]

I think I disagreed with a point or two, but overall your ability to remain unbiased is incredibly valuable. Keep being you, loved this video and it was very informative.

[@_ashB]

I might be the only person who finds the Quest 3 stock headstrap *okay*. I can thread my long ponytail through the Y-strap easier than other options and effectively have load-bearing hair, and it's fine for 1-2 hour sessions unlike the Quest 2's stock strap. Passthrough/MR on the Quest 3 mostly only makes me jealous of the future. Technically it's a big leap, but practically it still feels mostly for popping out of VR, as opposed to enhancing your physical space with AR. Hand tracking intentionality also feels like a huge hinderance, I wish I could just pin a window to a corner of my vision and toggle hand tracking with some kind of gesture.

[@iamnickdavis]

Thank you, appreciate the view.

[@scruvvy]

Waited for this one.

[@mythrando]

Brad, thank you so much for your coverage of the quest. I'm an index user but you've convinced me to get the quest 3. It seems just close enough that I'm getting my early adopter tingles. I just have to see for myself! :) Do you (or anyone) have a recommendation or two for the back strap w/battery(counterweight)? 128GB vs 512GB? Is it worth the price for the additional space?

[@joseandresjulienbarriere8786]

Bobo vr 3 Or something like that. Don’t go with the pro meta version, that’s for sure. That’s garbage, it can be kinda comfy but it brakes really easly and it is very overpriced

[@joseandresjulienbarriere8786]

You’re doing pcvr a lot so probably 128GB. I assumed you don’t have money to throw, if not you would not be asking that question obviously…. If you have money to throw then…..

[@ZachGreeley101]

Let's talk about the software flaw of when you're trying to watch a movie or video on the browser and the headset loses tracking due to an inactivity and then a white head tracking dot shows up in the middle of the screen that you cannot be removed. How am I supposed to watch movies and videos comfortably???

[@user-uj7fx6qf4q]

Thank you very much for one more great video. While I do share most of your points I do have a different experience with MR. But that's because regarding VR/MR I seem to be on the lucky side of life. All my interests are matching perfectly for VR/MR. I've been interested in stereoscopic pictures/videos since the 70ths. So I'm fascinated by VR on its own. I don't like shooters but simulations. Racing simulations are a perfect match for VR. I love to play table tennis. ElevenVR is a perfect combination of my interests. The simulation is very realistic. The virtual movement is identical to the real movement. It gets even better now that I can play it in MR since I don't crash into my walls while chasing hopeless balls. Miracle Pool is more calm but very similar in the MR experience. Having a huge pool table on demand in your living room is really cool. The MR home environment alone adds benefit. Being able to pick your drink or swapping the batteries of your controllers with the headset on adds a lot of benefit. And last but not least I always dreamed of previewing my CAD-designs in MR. It allows for having a first impression whether the design matches the environment and allows to easily check whether I got all the tiny details correct. I'm sure there is more to come. And I don't only think of ikea allowing you to virtually place all their furniture in your house. BR

[@pixxelpusher]

I'm glad you touched on how bad passthrough still looks indoors for a lot of people. There are so many spruiking that it's "amazing" yet not wanting to honestly own up and admit it's extremely grainy in most circumstances. I'd happily buy a cheaper Quest 3 that completely removed passthrough. They need to use much better camera sensors for that feature to be convincing. Would be interested in hearing your opinions on the new Varjo XR-4.

[@user-br3oe1lc5y]

Dont get me wrong, it is pretty bad but not that bad. i tested it at the gym. besides me looking incredibly stupid i had almost no issues, the one big issue being the quest not letting me freely move the screen in youtube full screen. i could walk around i could read the machine and generally work out with little issue. Reading the phone can be an issue depending on the brightness. The way id call the passthrough is like a 90s filter

[@uPSIDEdOWN577]

I mean it’s better than I expected but I’m new to vr so really didn’t know what to expect. Though I didn’t expect to be able to very easily find anything like my phone for example with the headset on. I thought I’d have to take it off to answer a call etc. it’s not in 4K but i can see more than fine

[@AZR43L.]

Not gonna lie, you cant get much better for the same price.

[@incomingincoming1133]

They have access to better cameras, but what you are describing is a $400 camera for a $500 device.

[@m0rph3u5.]

Thanks althought its not much, but I do value all your honest reviews and Valve Index users orientation. This and the BSB still feel like midgen compared to Aero & Crystal, but these as well have their pros/cons like the Vive/Oculus had at the time until the Index came out and oh my how perfect it was/is

[@TokyoDynamite]

Where does Brad get his shirts? They are sweet

[@jerrycaddie838]

"Its not a reason to but this" THANK YOU!!!!! Someone with credibility actually saying it

[@morbid1.]

Huge miss is lack of eye tracking... FoV rendering is huge boost to performance and it would not only open more PC to VR but also quest native games would benefit from it.

[@HoshPak]

Below, you will find a lot of rambling about the optical stack of Quest 3 / Pro. Have fun! Thank you for pointing out the state of local dimming on Quest Pro! I thought I would be the only one feeling that it's more distracting than actually beneficial. Especially night skies and space had this obnoxious aurora effect (Backlight shifting constantly because it tries to illuminate the stars). I prefer having a uniform image over these pseudo improvements. Regarding the reduced luminance, my educated guess is that the Pro gets brighter because it's intended to be used with partial light blockers only or without any blockers. Because of that you will have to deal with a lot more ambient light compared to Quest 3 which you will have to combat by increasing brightness. Also, local dimming may allow for higher luminance because it's applied on small areas, similar to peak brightness ratings in current HDR monitors. VESA HDR 1000 certification specifically requires use of local dimming to hit that peak brightness. And lastly, quantum Dot is known to be an effective measure to reduce power consumption with screens as the available light is distributed much better than without. The vignetting is real, but it's much more manageable compared to the backlight bleed the Quest Pro had around the edge of the lenses. And so is the mura effect... It's unfortunate to notice it but it seems to be an issue with all headsets and not a case of silicon lottery. That at least gives me some peace of mind, so I don't get stressed over it. Again, it might be due to the lack of the Quantum Dot layer that we are seeing this.

[@killacovertops]

Would you use this over bigscreen beyond in its current state?

[@StarCenturion]

I tried using the Quest 2 as a monitor replacement and eventually gave up. Even with a custom headstrap, the sweet spot was bad, the front was uncomfortable, and the passthrough wasn't usable. Fast forward to the Quest 3. Those pancake optics really shine. There's no blurriness, the passthrough is excellent, and the increased resolution really helps actually make it the monitor replacement they were pushing w/ QPro. The passthrough is so usable that I've been able to cook breakfast while wearing it. The Quest 3 is definitely their best VR headset since the original Rift CV1. I mean that 100%. 1000%.

[@fffrrraannkk]

When you're plugged into your PC are you limited by the Quest's battery, or does the PC keep it charged?

[@StarCenturion]

@@fffrrraannkk I just have the Quest 3 plugged into the wall using a 25w charger

[@WikiPeoples]

Absolutely agree and the lenses deserve the majority of the praise here. They are simply SO good.

[@fffrrraannkk]

@@StarCenturion Thanks

[@rahulahl]

@@fffrrraannkk If you have Wifi 5 at least, there is no reason to plug it into the PC. Wired is not better than WiFi. Its pretty much the same. Just plug it into the wall.

[@Mcage2]

Regarding SDE and aliasing: had 4 Quest 3 devices due to screen issues (dead pixels mainly) and can tell you that SDE and aliasing is not a 'feature' of the Quest 3 but rather your display lottery chance of getting one without.. meaning that 3 out of 4 had NO SDE and aliasing for me, kust the last device I received..Difference between the first 3 and the last device are night and day. I really believe they use different display batches with or maybe with or without diffusion layer (3th device had a wave like pattern on the edge that looked like foil curled up partly on the display). Maybe worth investigating!?

[@vladtheinhaler93]

How may we be of service?

[@eeeeyuke]

My biggest beef is I can't connect my android via Bluetooth. Troybleshhotjng via meta says to clear Bluetooth cache, but that option is grayed out on the s23 ultra. So, basically, my phone connects to quest 3, and almost instantly goes to previously connected. Ugh.

[@mysticalsoulqc]

so I can continue my suffering on future XR hardware reviews You're so distinctive. You're a natural born comedian. like you. You already made millions, man.

[@teaconnoisseur6339]

best vr/ar content on yt!

[@chrisanderson3067]

Does your Q3 have bad glare?

[@AlasdairXV]

I thnk the length was fine and your criticisms were justified every small detail is important when you are going to spend huge chunks of your life wearing something. don't feel too bad for length and "nitpicking" I like the thorough investigatino into the quality of quest 3, people think people have to talk about the positives more but most of the time things get better when you correct the negatives.

[@user-me1qo2cf1v]

Been looking at the quest 3. Have index and quest 2. Going to sit this one out jack

[@Kiririn]

looking forward to your vision pro review

[@SadlyItsBradley]

You and me both lol

[@danbarb9728]

is your camera doing ok? I dont know but it looks kind of blurry. To that tool, that gives more CPU power etc. I dont know why Meta hasnt released this themselves or lets say it could have been implemented in a way that the quest uses more CPU power when its connected to an USB Power adapter, similar to a laptop.

[@valkayrie1198]

addressing the lack of OS support for virtual monitors, have you looked into dummy monitor plugs? i've found hdmi and displayport sticks that pretend to be monitors for $20-$50

[@dannyblitz2122]

Stay in the future mate 😊

[@revisionfour]

Brad is just a genuinely good dude