Safariland 6390 RDS Holster Review - And Series Overview!

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The Safariland ALS system is awesome; let's find out why! We'll also talk about what makes this whole series of holsters so damn nice.
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[@trashcanpossum230]

This seems like the perfect holster to open carry with when I go to Olive Garden. Do you think the release button will still be easy to hit with greasey fingers from unlimited breadsticks?

[@thegunpenguin]

The grease can only help.

[@trashcanpossum230]

@@thegunpenguin Smooth is fast and grease is faster.

[@thegunpenguin]

@@trashcanpossum230 Grease like you fight, and fight like you grease.

[@gorilla_85]

@@thegunpenguin Señor Penguin, is the intro song available in soundcloud? Very beautiful🙏

[@goneballistic]

Can confirm. Release button works while holding breadsticks and calamari

[@sholomminsky]

Nice job with accurate and concise Info been looking for vid like this 👌

[@4thquarterberry548]

You literally covered everything with nice detail great video man 🔥

[@wi1dwater742]

This video was very informative, very good job Mr. Gun Penguin!

[@thegunpenguin]

Many thanks, my friend!

[@Snapper314]

Excellent and concise review. Great job!

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@MrRUSSWILL]

Excellent review! Thank you!

[@brewman5563]

Great presentation. Thank you

[@skionen1781]

Excellent video, thanks for sharing

[@thegunpenguin]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@MDpolo]

Thank you very much for sharing!

[@thegunpenguin]

And thank you for watching!

[@thecontemporarygentleman]

Solid review!

[@thegunpenguin]

Thanks!

[@alonsosalinasnajera776]

So far as I've researched a holster for my soon to come M17 and FN 509 tactical the 6390 says that it'll fit them, I'm sure you are able to fit several other full size handguns than just Glock so it honestly shines at modularity as it is

[@tacktiician4978]

I like your video dude! Ill be watching more

[@danielm5774]

I just ordered this for my glock 34 gen5 mos. I have a holosun scs on it. My finish will be basket weave which i have always used and it was in stock when i ordered last night. I wont be getting the surefire 300u light right away so its nice to know that it will be secure without it. My version is only level 1 which is all i need sitting behind a desk with it at my job and it is still secure with als.

[@davidforsberg5675]

Agree have 3 of these for my Glocks and CZ. Install the plate in the vehicle and bang, a great access while driving.

[@scottv3711]

Thank you, just put in my order!

[@thegunpenguin]

Awesome! Let me know how you like it.

[@WiiR3d0000]

@@thegunpenguin How do I request it be made to fit a light? I don’t see an option on there

[@thegunpenguin]

@@WiiR3d0000 Go through the "holster finder" tool on the Safariland website.

[@tangero3462]

Great review! Safariland just revamped their site so you can add all sorts of stuff right on the holster page. Unfortunately, they still really don't explain what the acronyms or numbers mean, but it's Safariland, what do you expect. I'm really satisfied with my 6390. The thing's probably wearing more add-ons than my actual pistol. I've found Centrifuge Training's Negative Cant Plate is a must with Safariland's factory holster angle (though I've not tried the new CUBL)

[@thegunpenguin]

Thanks! I'm very glad Safariland is finally tweaking their nightmare of a website.

[@imminentodin_9943]

Great video as always. I'd love to see an update on the 43X. Do you plan to review the Shield S15 mags when you get some?

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you so much! My Shield mags just arrived last week, and are being tested now. I like to be as thorough as I can, so I think it'll take me 3 weeks to let ya'll know how they work. Thanks for the input! It's always appreciated.

[@anthonyz.4560]

Great video

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you, my friend!

[@Josh-eq8qp]

Great video.

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you!

[@patronsaintofswitchbladefi2944]

Every LE or PMC agency I've worked with issues or requires Safariland level 3 holsters . The reason they go mostly Glock is because Safariland has multiple LE contracts and an absurd amount of LE agencies issue Glock . Mine issues the Glock gen5 G17 . We use the Safariland 7ts series which is awesome also . My personal setup duty level pistol is the G45 with Holosun 509t direct mounted by Jagerwerks . I use the Safariland 6390 RDS holster you reviewed in the video and really like it . However as far as RDS holsters go I prefer the Safariland rds DO 63 series holster for the better draw imo . The 6390 RDS holster does have the optic protection flapper thingy 🤷🏻‍♂️that I prefer using on duty as it protects the optic from rain, debris,etc. As you pointed out there is a learning curve with this holster when compared to the Safariland 7ts series or other none RDS holsters . To me it has more of a vertical draw that's super fast once your muscle memory is in tune with the system . Also I would advise anyone to use the QLS on all of their holsters even if you don't plan on switching them out .. you might eventually & you'll be extremely happy to have the QLS at that time . Really good review ‼️🔫

[@eugenechurch6135]

Cool video man. U need more subs. Love my 6390

[@cb7677]

removing the als block and rds hood made a huge difference, was fairly annoying to use with them installed. did you ever adjust the screw on the rear of the holster (I think the light tensioning screw)?

[@A_Son_Of_Yahuah]

Glad 😊 I came across this video. Would the 19x fit this holster❓️Your new subscriber❗️🎯👍🏽

[@hellsscoutact5379]

Thanks great review. 👍 i subscribed cause you seem to tell it straight. JMHO

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you for the kind words and support!

[@esoskratos26]

Great review. Will a g5 glock 22 fit in this?

[@theexpatgunner]

I’ve finally ordered a 6390 RDS. 👍

[@thegunpenguin]

Awesome! Let me know how you like it!

[@shawngansert1973]

I love my safariland holster. They're one of the only companies (if not the only one) that offer a level 3 retention for my canik tp9sfx.

[@dylanmassengill]

Do you happen to know if that tp9sfx fits in a safariland 6390 for a Glock

[@MyDrock18]

This is the first video of yours that I’ve seen. I enjoyed it and found it informative. I don’t subscribe to many channels but when you said safariland drags ass, I could resist. Subscribed. I swear it’s like pulling teeth with them. I love their stuff but they are slow af and apparently don’t like making money because if they offered ALS rds/light for other pistols they’d have all my money.

[@RighteousLiberty]

I didn’t think the “fuzzy” suede in the holster actually worked at protecting the finish. I tried an older 6000 series holster several years ago (around 2013) and it “fuzzy” suede lining began acting like an abrasive, rubbing the slide excessively. It was not a smooth draw either. Did they fix this, or did you just get lucky?

[@MastermindMentality]

Height and arm length also determine which length you’ll purchase.

[@edgardocastillo7642]

Does it come with the leg drop?

[@clarkkent05041998]

Will this accept a Glock 17 with Vortex Venom and TLR1?

[@DonRaynor]

Hi Mr. Penguin it's me again. Your eccentric Finnish viewer. Could you confirm or deny, if there's a possibility to modify the Holster's front end to allow a G34 length handgun to be inserted and locked in. Asking as my 45 is factory ready to adopt Muzzle devices and I'm putting a comp on it. Also you forgot to mention (most likely because you haven't tried) that the RDS cover does not close over a Aimpoint Acro or other Block style closed emitter Pistol sights. Have a wonderful day. I'm so joining the Discord later o/

[@thegunpenguin]

You're absolutely right, I haven't tried the Acro, yet, sadly. But, folks are saying that the door won't close over the Aimpoint. As you can imagine, that's not a big deal, with the enclosed emitter. The Glock 34 should fit in the Safariland without issue. I didn't mention this in the video because I haven't personally tried it, and I try to avoid mentioning such details if I haven't witnessed them myself. I bought this holster precisely because I want to put a muzzle device on my 45. I guess we're on the save wavelength! The only issue we might run into is choosing a muzzle device with an appropriate thickness. Always great to hear from you, and you're welcome on the Discord anytime!

[@HardcoreAmericanUSA]

So just to be sure, do all 6000 series have the ability to mount the QLS or RTI hanger? Weather it’s a drop leg or belt model?

[@thegunpenguin]

I haven't used the RTI bits. I've got a few G Code products lying around, but I can't say whether or not they work with any of the 6000-series Safariland holsters. However, all of the Safariland holsters that I have, be they 6- or 7-series, work with the QLS mount. I'm reticent to speak in absolutes when it comes to anything related to firearms, and especially Safariland, given how convoluted their numbering and compatibility is. But I can tell you that all the ones I've tried have worked, and I have many, many Safariland holsters. Sorry for the vague answer, but I like to be as precise as possible when answering questions. Ultimately, no one but Safariland can tell you definitively.

[@BlockHead951]

Will this fit a Sig P226 with a streamligbt tlr 1 and Romeo 1

[@JoseFlores-pm7qg]

There should be a place where anyone can go to try on different holsters before they buy them. Kinda like a shoe store. And if you need one custom made, then they will help you through the process and pick it up at the store when it gets there. It can be called "The Hol-Store". But it can also carry EDC belts, duty belts, battle belts, plate carriers, body armor, and all kinds of optics, and accessories. But no firearms and ammo should be sold there. Only because the time should be spent on fitting the right gear for the right person.😏 I'm gonna need 5% of all profits if this dream comes true. It will work. Never waist money on a crappy holster again! I have a box full of holsters in my closet.🤦‍♂️ Just a lot of money that I could have used on ammo. Just......outrageous!

[@checho21187]

Very good video! Im from Argentina, i have a glock 45 too, i want to change the sights of the gun, what sights are those?

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you, my friend! These sights are Trijicon HD XRs, and I've enjoyed them immensely. Hands down, they're my favorite sights.

[@sollara505]

Thank you

[@thegunpenguin]

And thank you for watching!

[@itchyoldfart]

great video brother... I've been on Safariland website a few times and it is so messed up trying to find one of these holsters for a CZ SP01. I finally just gave up with all their number coding and bullshit. I know you run full size CZ pistols and they're about the same size is a glock 17 Wonder if the SP01 would fit in a glock 17 holster? Thanks again keep up the great videos

[@FrogToadBug]

Hey if you're still looking, the CZ-SP01 does not fit Glock 17 holsters. The Safariland 576 may fit, but also the KT Duty AKELA is a great holster, that's what I use with my CZ 75B

[@itchyoldfart]

@@FrogToadBug Thank you brother ...I actually bought a safari land 6390 for the glock 20/21 which fits my Sp01 almost perfect

[@bradbarfell8361]

Is this the STX plain material?

[@ArchetypeofMan]

Every minute I watch your videos, I'm more and more convinced we'd be great friends if we lived closer. Fantastic video, man! Hope you are doing well, and life is treating you great!

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you for the kind words, and congratulations on 1000 subscribers! Your channel will be huge by the end of 2020. Yeah, we live just far enough away that hanging out is a pain in the ass. If you get bored, hop on the TGP Discord, and let's set up a weekend to go shoot.

[@rudy4538]

Would you be able to help me? I have a Glock 34 Gen5 w/ Trijicon RMR and Streamlight TLR2 HL G. Do you know what holster I can buy?

[@Jctactics]

On safarilands website go to the 6390rds and select all the accessories that your firearms has and it will confirm if it fits your specific weapon. Im sure they make that holster for your options.

[@pneuma7183]

What purpose does the screw serve that’s on the side (closer to the top) of the holster? Does it tighten and act as another method of retention?

[@cb7677]

That screw is acting to secure the auto locking system inside of the holster. Because its purpose is to hold that mechanism in place, I highly doubt it is intended to be adjusted, just tightened and left to be.

[@pneuma7183]

CB cool, thanks man.

[@roncrouch4090]

The Safariland holsters are even better with the "nub mod" added to them. Gives a larger button for the thumb release

[@HK416DSF]

Will a Glock 17 fit into this holster with the X300? I just purchased one but soon after realized I purchased it for a 19 instead of a 17.

[@thegunpenguin]

The 17 will fit just fine!

[@bryansmith94]

Anybody know if I can run a g45 with tlr 1 in a holster for a glock 17 with tlr 1?

[@dlrfan1314]

Will a G19 with a trijicon sro fit in this holster? What about lights? Besides the x300 will a streamlight fit?

[@L4zyN1nj4]

most optic cut holsters are usually cut for RMR, the sro is obviously taller than that. you can use a heat gun to mold the kydex again or just cut the hood off and roll like that

[@Breese147]

try the nub mod by OTD defense ;) makes it even faster

[@marcomendoza77]

Does it secure the pistol without a light attached? I know you mentioned it should work without accessories attached. Wanted to make sure. Thanks

[@SCB1111]

The ALS will lock on the ejection port, but because of the open space from the light it no longer fully retains the gun from grabs.

[@marcomendoza77]

@@SCB1111 I was fortunate enough to be able to make it work without a light. I ended up retaining the muzzle end that goes into the barrel end and shortened one of the protrusions to allow the pistol to seat properly and lock in place. Granted it’s only a range holster for me but the holster was not really made for the 1911. Without the barrel retaining end nub/protrusion the pistol doesn’t stay put for the ALS to lock in in place. So far it works but not as smooth as my 6354do with my Glock

[@CharlieMikeNS]

If I have a Glock 19, is there any reason I shouldn't get the Glock 34 model? Isn't the only difference the little cap in the end?

[@thegunpenguin]

I'd go ahead and get the 34 model. Though I think the shorter one is shown in this video, as you say, there's no reason not to buy the longer one. I have a bunch of these, and most of them are 34-length.

[@natephillips1797]

Aw hell he got that flappydoodle

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

I just got my RDS6390. The instructions state there are allen screws to adjust tensioning.....but I am unsure which ones, as all the possible allen areas for tightening are already tight.

[@thegunpenguin]

It's on the bottom of the holster, a single protruding screw with a large rubber washer. When you turn it, you'll see that it presses on the plastic, adding tension. If you Google "Safariland tension screw" you'll find some pictures. I hope that helps!

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

@@thegunpenguin I see there is a screw with a rubber bushing on it that is by the UBL area.

[@thegunpenguin]

@@LoveLikeaHurricane That's the one!

[@pietb5085]

The thumb flap is for if you carry it on a belt your uniform stay clear of the sls release..

[@Dude17768]

So did you just order the Glock 17 model? Since it says it’s not compatible with the Glock 45.

[@thegunpenguin]

You use the same holster whether you have a 19, 17, 45, or 34. The 45 holsters like a 19, as it has a 19-sized slide. If you have a 19, you can use that extra room to house a comp.

[@BattleBean762]

So this would theoretically fit the CZ P10F as well correct?

[@thegunpenguin]

It definitely doesn't fit my P10C, though that's not definitive evidence that it doesn't fit the F.

[@YarredC]

Good video. I'm looking for a holster with this type of retention. Idk why safariland acts like you can't use this with a glock with no optic.

[@thegunpenguin]

Thanks! You can definitely use this holster with no optic -- I've done it myself, often. I could see it being an issue if folks have a sloppy technique when they reholster, though.

[@sunnycat69]

There site says this holster will fit my M and P 2.0 compacts my question is is it a open bottom I have a threaded barrel

[@thegunpenguin]

It can be open-bottom, if you remove the insert at the base of the holster. Be aware though, you need to order the model specifically for the M&P 2.0; you can't necessarily stick your gun in any 6390. I'm sure you know that already, but some folks don't.

[@miletello1]

I think you would be happier with either the standard 6360 or 6390 without the rds.

[@ajaponte5885]

Im trying to find a holster that will fit a 34, 17,& 19 all to fit with and without light , would this be a good choice

[@thegunpenguin]

Yes, but you have to order the 34-sized model. There is one with a shorter muzzle area that fits the 17 and 19 only.

[@ajaponte5885]

@@thegunpenguin do you happen to know the model number 6390-_____?

[@ajaponte5885]

@@thegunpenguin i think there is another 3 or 4 numbers after the 6390

[@Rob_Nasty]

Would it fit Gen 3 17/19?? Since it fits Gen 4 17/19.

[@thegunpenguin]

It should fit, but I'd advise that you send Safariland an email to confirm.

[@patronsaintofswitchbladefi2944]

Yeah & anything time stamped on the back of the holster past 6/18 will fit gen5

[@richardmeas5035]

Been trying to find a holster for my Glock 17 MOS gen 5 with a streamlight TLR HL. Would this fit??

[@thegunpenguin]

There are a million variations of this holster. You'll have to check the holster configuration tool on Safariland's website.

[@richardmeas5035]

Just did it an it said “0” unfortunately.. but thanks for replying back to me so fast! Well I’m just gonna keep on looking!

[@thegunpenguin]

@@richardmeas5035 Happy to help, and I'm sorry they don't have a model that will work. That's one of the serious issues with Safariland. They are astoundingly slow to release new models, if they ever get around to it at all. It's not like the TLR-1 is a rare light; seems to me they're leaving money on the table.

[@richardmeas5035]

Seriously! Well thank you man 👌🏼 I just got done reading this online so this guy had the same problem as me. An someone said just put “Glock gen 5” an not “MOS” an he said that will work I just don’t wanna spend that much money on a holster an not have it fit you know?

[@thegunpenguin]

@@richardmeas5035 That's entirely understandable. I suspect that it would probably fit, based on the sizes involved, but that's purely a hunch. When I need something that Safariland doesn't make, I've had good luck with these folks: www.mwtsmn.com/kydex-holster/magazine-carrier-mrs-fkgs7-rjhsp They don't send me stuff for review, or even give me a discount, I just like the holsters. I still prefer Safariland over their stuff, but they are the best kydex options I've found.

[@ProactiveDefenseLLC]

What’s the difference in the 6360 vs 6390??

[@Krel-888]

well 6360 ends with 60 and 6390 ends with 90

[@musician445]

You are a funny guy. I enjoyed this.

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you, my friend!

[@gorilla_85]

Me need that song señor Penguin😭☝️💯

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you so much for the kind words! I play guitar for a living, and that's from a piece I've been working on for a few months. Hopefully I'll finish it soon. I'm honored that you want to listen to it!

[@gorilla_85]

@@thegunpenguin Thank you sir for replying. I will be so happy the day you release it🙏

[@thegunpenguin]

@@gorilla_85 You've inspired me to finish it! Thank you!

[@gorilla_85]

@@thegunpenguin 🙏🙏🙏

[@99Ironside]

I just got this holster and it feels like the gun sticks sometimes when drawing. It seems like the the locking section doesn’t clear the ejection port every time I draw and the gun will hang up. This is something I haven’t had with my other non rds als holsters. Have you noticed anything like this?

[@thegunpenguin]

I haven't experienced that, but it would drive me crazy. Have you thought about emailing Safariland about it? That's a very perplexing issue, for sure.

[@99Ironside]

thegunpenguin I just got it and wanted to make sure it wasn’t a training issue first but seems like it catches slightly on the ejection port even when the thumb nub is pulled all the way back. May have to give them a call

[@thegunpenguin]

I have to note, that did happen to me with Safariland holsters in general for the first 3 months that I was using them; I didn't quite have the motion down, and I'd try to dry before the lock section cleared the ejection port. But, you have experience with other ALS holsters, so I don't think that's the problem.

[@Breese147]

I experienced this problem with a buddy’s Surefire X300U-B. The B model has that extra circle nub for tightening via whatever flat head device you use to tighten it. I had purchased the X300U-A model and it worked fine with it.

[@Training_Tsuna_]

Good stuff.

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you!

[@kodyking3090]

Gen 5 19 catching on something in this holster. Difficult to draw. Suggestions?

[@thegunpenguin]

I'd have to see it, but that sounds very wrong. If that were my holster, I'd contact Safariland and stop using it ASAP just in case whatever obstruction there is might press the trigger.

[@kodyking3090]

thegunpenguin think I just got it. Had to do a small amount of dremelimg to the slide catch which locks the weapon in. It was catching it if I pulled it from my normal drawing position and would only release the firearm if it was being pulled out at the perfect angle to where it wouldn’t catch. Really weird.

[@thegunpenguin]

@@kodyking3090 That's not right at all -- you shouldn't have had to do that. It might be worth contacting them to see if they can do anything for you. I'm guessing you also had to wait a while to get the holster, too. It sucks to wait 2 months, and then have to dremel your new, very expensive holster.

[@kodyking3090]

thegunpenguin yeah it sucks. Got it at a uniform store local. Gonna go there tomorrow to see if it fits another one and see if I just had a lemon maybe.

[@thegunpenguin]

@@kodyking3090 Fair enough! Hopefully the problem is isolated that particular one. If it isn't, let me know. Information like that helps me create more balanced follow-up videos.

[@dannydowdall3827]

Would this fit my 4.4" barrel length 1911? With olight?

[@thegunpenguin]

I laughed hard! Thank you for that.

[@dannydowdall3827]

Yo I'm glad I made you laugh but I'm serious lmao 😂😅

[@thegunpenguin]

Sorry, I genuinely wasn't trying to be a dick; I truly thought you were joking. You'll definitely have to call Safariland about that one.

[@dannydowdall3827]

I know!! No worries and yeah I'm probs gunna be doing that pretty soon. Thanks! Great videos btw ✔️

[@thegunpenguin]

@@dannydowdall3827 Thanks my friend! Let me know what Safariland says.

[@Anon62796]

Is the hood removable? (Not the red dot hood)

[@thegunpenguin]

Yes. All hoods are removable, if you need them gone.

[@Anon62796]

thegunpenguin sweet. Thanks for the reply, left a like for you bro

[@thegunpenguin]

@@Anon62796 Thanks! Happy to help.

[@VT560T]

So just to confirm, the 6390 RDS will accept a Gen 5 G19 with optic and a Olight PL Mini?

[@thegunpenguin]

I have no clue about Olight; for that, you'll need to ask Safariland.

[@spookinoff]

I appreciate your love of mid-ride height, but when your hands hang down to the middle of your thighs low-ride is the move

[@luissinisterrariascos232]

Por que no asen glock con martillo seria un arma espectacular

[@thegunpenguin]

It also wouldn't be a Glock any longer, but I see your point. There are plenty of excellent polymer hammer-fired guns; the HK P30 immediately comes to mind.

[@DevilFrog]

Perfect video review. Now, let's spend s9me money and see if it accommodates a G19 w/Baldr Mini (Olight).

[@thegunpenguin]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@DevilFrog]

UPDATE: Unfortunately the Olight BALDR Mini [on G19] will not fit in the holster; it initially clears in height and width, but must be forced in at the half-way point. However, the G19 w/Olight PL Valkyrie Mini 1&2 will fit with minimal vertical movement, and it can be adjusted enough to reduce that to a negligible amount (the side tension screw must be adjusted a bit); I’m using it on duty with no concern of snags or restricted draws.

[@clapzy2943]

@@DevilFrog they have a fitment chart online kind of complicated tho

[@clapzy2943]

@@thegunpenguin it says on the chart it will fit the streamlight tlr1 and tlr1 hl do you know if that's true?

[@thegunpenguin]

​@@clapzy2943 Contact Safariland. The only way to ensure a proper fit is to order the appropriate holster for your exact combination of gun and light, or gun/light/optic.

[@y0b0yheartless]

bro good video ur intro is super freaking long tho

[@thegunpenguin]

I don't take production advice from people who haven't mastered punctuation.

[@y0b0yheartless]

You should ...

[@thegunpenguin]

@@y0b0yheartless I'll pass. Watch something else next time.

[@y0b0yheartless]

If I knew you were a douche I wouldn’t have liked your video, watched or commented. Now I’ll share the word you’re a rude, pretentious and unable to take criticism.

[@thegunpenguin]

@@y0b0yheartless Please do! Thanks for driving up my engagement numbers. Each time you comment, you're putting money in my pocket.

[@huaethan05]

Like I always like to say what works for me might not work for you depending on the work.

[@lifeisamatrix5960]

Snap slide holsters like above should be outlawed for duty use. I have seen suspects successfully remove them in fights.

[@kamikazi8740]

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[@505thpir]

G Code did it better

[@HotelBravo556]

That must be why they’re way more popular.. wait 🥴

[@kamikazi8740]

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[@RSpuhl]

You’ll have more credibility with less vulgar language.

[@thegunpenguin]

No thanks! Do as thou wilt.