Sage 5 vs some other Spydercos

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[@tomr3641]

Spyderco describes the Chaparral as G10/Carbon fiber laminate. See here: www.spyderco.com/catalog/category/all. Peel ply refers to solid carbon fiber with a textured surface, found on some models. This is different than G10/CF laminate.

[@SuperSteelSteve]

Brother.... Thank you. Im kinda stunned how fast you did it! Thanks for taking the time man! And seeing them side by side showed some real differences. Again... Thanks

[@CedricAda]

no worries, I had a kid free morning at home so happy to help 👍🏻👍🏻

[@SuperSteelSteve]

Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors ......kid free morning...what's that? Lol They still make those?

[@spyderg6509]

No comparison sage 5 hands down chaperal next manix is also a good knife but the win without question is Sage 5

[@mikewilliams9286]

I really enjoy Spyderco's s30v, but they should really do some sprint runs in different blade materials on the sage 5.

[@nickallen8333]

I wish. Comment is 2 years old and they just discontinued the CF version..

[@shroomsrus5116]

@@nickallen8333aha shit, there’s an m4 version though 🤷‍♂️

[@shroomsrus5116]

@@nickallen8333I might have to pick one up and swap the s30v on my sage 5 cf with the m4

[@nickallen8333]

@@shroomsrus5116 yeah m 4 is great but I typically don’t like coated blades and the green scales are terrible to me lol

[@blitzbbffl]

Nothing wrong with the short video, I enjoyed it!

[@rusterkat1188]

I think there are some knife handles out there with what is essentially a 'sticker' or decal of CF applied over G10, vs a ply of CF laid-up and molded with the G10 substrate, vs a full thickness CF lay-up.

[@BradGryphonn]

Dammit man! I'm trying going to keep up! But thank you. Loving the content. I'll send you those things soon.

[@milanjelovac9593]

Hi. Lot of wind in your studio 😆

[@intenseaty2935]

The Chaparral’s CF compares more closely or even identical to the Sage 1. Except for the lock, it’s a “Mini Me” of the sage.

[@abc456f]

I just ordered a sage 5 with the specific idea that I wanted a larger version of the chaparral. Your "mini-me" comment is just what I wanted to hear. Thanks for posting your comment.

[@Tokyo-go2du]

A good idear of what is availabough

[@moparchallenger749]

Love the Spyderco’s Best bang for the buck Tenacious imo Tnx

[@rusterkat1188]

YOU ROCK, PETE! 5 thumbs up!

[@kevinfitz3721]

You planning on getting the sage 1 in maxamet?

[@explorerextraordinaire5472]

Thanks!

[@lenzielenski3276]

I like the video but it ended up being more about the Chaparral than the Sage. IMO the Chaparral should not even have made the comparison, its a much smaller special purpose knife. It would be better to throw the Native in instead. Ergonomically, I've always liked the Sage and its a good all around EDC blade as is the Native, Manix and Delica. I do wish Spyderco would get back to their roots and realize that other companies are putting full thickness carbon fiber on their knives at a fraction of the price. They say they do it to keep costs down, but that doesn't seem to be passed on to us customers. For another example, look at the Chaparral price vs the Sage or Native. Why so much more expensive? It actually uses LESS material and grinding a blade is grinding a blade. You start with stock as close to the end thickness you can get and go from there. It just seems to me the only reason for their pricing model, especially of late, is greed. Its too bad, they were (past tense) a great company. Now they are going down the same road Benchmade did...price going up and up and quality down and down. Die hard fanboys won't switch but a lot of us will. I've carried Spyderco's since the first Clipit. As of last week I'm carrying a Steel Will Cutjack Mini...at a MUCH better price (and I get a fun flipper to boot). For anyone interested, Amazon prime has the Steel Will Cutjack Mini for $23USD. That's up $2 from when I ordered mine 5 days ago. Let me tell you, its a Delica killer.

[@JustIn-op6oy]

I know I'm late to the party, but on the cf/g10 argument I've heard arguments that part of the continuing use of the laminate is due to balance reasons. I responded with a suggestion that balance issues would be better sorted out via the size & location of the skeletonizing liner cuts.

[@andrewhaley8992]

The sage is my favorite knife ever.

[@edrader]

i really like it except for the blade. native 5 blade is more useful for me as well as PM2

[@mr.crumbles2557]

XHP is def my favorite steel. Wish spyderco would make more knives out of it and that cold steel won’t abandon it but oh well :/ already seeing the recon being sold in s35vn and it’s bumming me out

[@Throndl]

Massdrop has the Recon 1 in S35VN and suffice to say, it's not doing well.

[@mr.crumbles2557]

Sam 0 sold with an active discussion board... ouch XD.

[@tonycanniffe2360]

Hanging onto my CS knives in CTXHP. Great steel. Pity they changed...

[@cashdingo6386]

is s35vn really that bad comparatively? I've been waiting for the para3 in s35vn but I'm a metal geek noober.

[@mr.crumbles2557]

Cash Dingo s35vn is a great premium steel :) it sharpens up easier than s30v as well. If you’re eyeing a design made of s35vn I say go for it for sure. it’s just that I personally prefer xhp :)

[@JustIn-op6oy]

Right now I'm going back and forth on the Sage 5 LW and the Manix 2 LW in spy27. I've handled both and generally love spyderco's products... ugh why is this such a hard choice

[@masonburroughs6989]

I am literally doing the same thing

[@masonburroughs6989]

The black n green tho 😍😵

[@masonburroughs6989]

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[@charlesdudek7713]

I have both except my Manix2 LW is the BD1N in the translucent blue scales. Both see a lot of pocket time.

[@mt_baldwin]

I always thought the chaparral was %100 carbon fiber, since it's advertised and described that way by spyderco and every reviewer says it is, but now I'm hearing from other commenters it is peel ply. There's nothing "wrong" with it but there is when companies try to pass it off as %100 carbon fiber and charge as if it was.

[@tonycanniffe2360]

Mt. Baldwin I have seen reviews saying it is ply. Seems like a cost saving measure and deceptive I'd they are advertising it as CF. Bugs me more now as it seems Ganzo uses slabs of CF, NOT ply in a $20 knife! (There's a Ganzo disassembly video I saw last night).

[@tonycanniffe2360]

Here Nick mentions the laminate kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6LFoWqmZ8qmr8U

[@Gpknives]

The Chaparral in the video is CF/G-10 laminate. "Peel ply" actually refers to the texture on the scales not the construction. The Caly 3.5 is full CF with no texture as opposed to the Sage 5 peel ply CF layer.

[@Gpknives]

Great comparison video! Per the Spyderco website the Chaparral is a Carbon Fiber/G10 laminate: www.spyderco.com/catalog/details/C152CF/Chaparral-Carbon-Fiber-G-10-Laminate/672 Peel ply is often confused as being CF/G10 laminate but actually refers to the texture. Peel ply is what you get on nearly all G10 that isn't contoured or polished. The Sage 5 is both, CF/G10 laminate with peel ply texture. The Caly 3.5 is full CF with no texture. As always, keep up the good work!

[@frederickj.7136]

...And "stay sharp!" heh, heh... What about the Caly 3.0, BTW -- is that the same CF material as on the 3.5? Also, I note that the Calys do not have the same chamfering bevel to the outside edges of the scales as the Sage 1 does. The Sage 1 was already painful in my own hand *before* even attempting any work. It simply had to be returned. Can sections of a Caly's scale edges be 'rounded' a bit manually with some moderately abrasive tools if it's otherwise a keeper and feel in hand is an issue? I'd worry about the effect on a two ply scale, as on the Sage (delamination?). I know that the Caly 3.5 is a Tyler favorite! Thanks.

[@Gpknives]

You are correct sir, the Caly 3.5 is one of my top 5 carried and used knives. Caly 3 & 3.5 have same handle materials in the CF versions. They should be able to be chamfered a bit around the edges so long as you don't cut into the pins. YMMV I think delamination is fairly rare with Spyderco's CF/G10 but it can happen, mostly from heavy impact such as dropping on concrete.

[@jordansteffanson4998]

you dont show off the mantra much, I'd like to see some more comparisons with it. Wish they would've done the mantra 3 in zdp-189..

[@CedricAda]

yeah or M4. I have it on the ‘follow uo reviews to do’ list, with the spydiechef, T1, Gemini etc 😊

[@jordansteffanson4998]

Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors I was so close to pulling the trigger on the sage 5 but then I heard about the new mantra and I think I will enjoy that one much better! That'll be and interesting comparison as well! I'm hoping Spyderco will do a para3 sprint in DLC coated m4 and natural g10! 😁

[@JeffBruenderman]

Great video

[@neroknives1828]

Another solid video.good job.

[@curtisfox4917]

BladeHQ describes the scale as carbon fiber, no G10 mentioned like the Sage 5

[@blvckvv999]

bladehq gets a lot wrong.

[@davegreenleaf5272]

Is that chaparral not in S30V. Sure looks to be printed that way on the blade. Just wondering as he calls it XHP throughout the video?

[@CedricAda]

definitely xhp, all chaparrals are 😊

[@andrewg7878]

You cut out the one knife i wanted to find out what it was 😢

[@mr.crumbles2557]

Hey Pete have you had your hands on an FRN chaparral yet? Any thoughts on it? Also can I send you a spyderco alcyone for review/unleashed testing/whatever? It’s a strange knife and I’d love your thoughts. I think the spine thickness sits between the delica and chaparral

[@CedricAda]

i like the look of the frn chaparral. A real DF2 rival there. Where are you sending from? I’ve had a couple bad experiences sending stuff back internationally so I’m a little hesitant with overseas loaners, but flick me and email at cedric dot ada at gmail dot com

[@newhuskytwenty]

Manix 2 for outdoors and Chaparral carbon fiber (not frn) for the better look for city & work, depending which you have. ¿Only one to do both tasks? Then the Sage 5. End of the story.

[@voxfan7403]

There is no choil on these Spydercos!

[@deanw0654]

Cool video! I really like your content! I dont want to be one of those youtube police people behind a desk telling everyone they are wrong. But i think you are using the term "peel ply" wrong. Pretty sure peel ply refers to the texture or the way they apply texture to different materials such as g10 or carbon fiber. It really is a dumb name. It really does sound like it would mean a sticky ply of carbon fiber. But again sorry, i really dont want to be one of "those" people... lol

[@tonycanniffe2360]

Deanw06 Yeah. Ur right. I just used it in my link to Nick's vid.😶

[@jamesoncross7494]

MMMMMMMMM . . . . . . Spyderco porn . . . . . . .

[@yartar-pq9yp]

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