Coursed 6 String Build (...and Tone Demo)

[@FairyCRat]

I actually like the sound of this much more than I thought I would.

[@calinguga]

well it's 3/4 of an 8 string bass, of course it sounds cool although way too much distortion for my taste

[@gabewilliams7462]

Check out Royal Blood then. You’ll love it.

[@tylerphillips503]

At first I thought the title said Cursed 6 String, but I think that works. Kind of sounds like a budget Royal Blood

[@TotoDG]

This is the perfect instrument for Lemmy.

[@russellzauner]

would have saved him a shitload on distortion pedals

[@derianefrain5745]

And the guy from Royal Blood

[@jery3385]

@@derianefrain5745 not really,the thing with royal blood is that it has one dirty signal that is ran through an octave pedal,but the bass is clean,if both where distorted it wouldn't have the same effect,and the feel wouldn't be same for the "guitar" tone.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@jery3385 Lemmy played an 8 String Bass which has 4 pairs of Strings and may he RIP

[@derianefrain5745]

@@jery3385 Bro...it's a joke, but also, he uses both distorted in a lot of songs, just like Lights Out and Where Are You Know

[@ibnufasya6408]

The higher octave "detuned" sounds sounds like microtonal and i like it

Why would I ever want to skip the best part of you being creative? I love your videos man. :D

[@PlatypusBassist]

Chris Squire from Yes did this sort of think on his triple neck

[@stephenhodgeman6496]

(4:48) I'm digging it as well lol

[@messihr]

Hey Kevin, I am actually a dedicated 8 string (chorus/ octave) bass player and though I am no luthier, I might be able to provide some insight into your saddle problem. I currently have 2 8 string basses and am in the design phase of a 3rd . One utilizes an off tune-o-matic 2-piece system, one a more conventional saddle-in-bridge block (like that of a Fender) and the Hagstrom I have ias a more complex all-in-one system that apes some design elements from Floyd Rose . There are generally 2 ways to attain tuning stability: having independent saddles, or shortening the string length. In the first case (the more common case) each string has its own saddle, with the guitar saddle being more shallow and therefore more elevated. From what I can tell this makes the string more taught and therefore closes the distance between the bass and guitar course strings. With the latter option, the bass and guitar both share the same saddle, but the strings are run through the body at varying lengths in order to augment the pressure placed on the string. Hagstroms adopt this method. The guitar strings are situated higher up the body (i.e. close to the neck) than the bass by a noticeable distance. I can only assume this change in angle and tension helps to alleviate the intonation problem associated with saddle-sharing. Granted, this is far from a perfect option and there are famed instruments that suffer from intonation issues. Oktober Guitars released a signature 12 string bass which was known to feature a pretty noticeable intonation issue. In your case, I would suggest something like the Hagstrom method. If you run the guitar strings through the body itself you may be able to overcome the intonation issue. This might also take tension off the bridge itself. Personally though, I prefer the independent saddle method more for both stability and intonation reasons.

[@messihr]

Also, I would like to present a cheat for you that would enable the same sonic character (or nearly so) without the fret over intonation issues, piccolo strings. Certain manufacturers offer bass piccolo strings which are sonically very close to traditional guitar strings. You could string the instrument with them in lieu of guitar strings and achieve a similar tone. Given that you tend towards a djentier tone, which is notorious for compacting the frequency into something more percussive and augmented, it is likely the case that the difference would be near unidentifiable.

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

Interesting

[@messihr]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions So I am sitting here with my Schecter Stiletto Studio 8 that I moded with Lace alumatones and an audere preamp. I re-watched your video and reexamines the bridge on this and notice a potential problem with your build. On each of the octave strings (the guitar ones) the independent saddles on my bridge are about an 1/8 inch closer to the neck than the bass saddles, whereas your saddles are the same distance. You could try and modify your bridge to have longer saddle units to account for the difference.

[@peachmelba1000]

This is the best one yet. I wouldn't even worry about the intonation. This would sound really good in a mix.

[@mr.fictionaloxymoron3643]

Personally I really like this thing. I know you fix the problems that it has and it's plus sides are awesome. It's really cool 3 string bass with octave strings? First time I've seen something quite like that... great video as always Djent on man🤘

[@danielmccready1501]

I love the sound of this. Especially with distortion. sounds very synth-like. I know a lot of bands with no rhythm guitar use this to fill in sonic space during guitar solos etc. Keep up the great work man. 🤘

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

I have a 12 String Strat and it has special saddles that allow both strings to intonate well.

[@kuzan-steele2043]

Dude this channel is gonna blow up one day i swear. Your videos are fucking awesome!

[@materiagrezza9331]

This is one of your most clever buils. Love It!

[@SkylerOnYoutube]

Around 4:20 you missed a perfect opportunity to play 'Cars' by Gary Numan

[@girllloyd1214]

Wow, that sounds great! I love how full it sounds all on its own, I'd love to try playing it in a duo setting with a drummer.

[@stephenhodgeman6496]

I don't think this was a waste at all. I want to do one now lol.

[@sportcompactdc5]

You could use it as a sort of "support" instrument in a recording situation. Like adding another layer to the sound of the recording beneath the regular guitar and bass recordings. Might be interesting to test it out.

[@el_principe3611]

You are an absolute mad lad.

[@stephenhodgeman6496]

...also, if you blend a guitar AND a bass pickup, wouldn't you get both ends? Just curious, I haven't tried this yet lol.

[@russellzauner]

check Billy Sheehan's setup on his sig yamaha - he's got a very interesting pickup config - chase the tone junkies and you'll learn everything lol

[@stephenhodgeman6496]

I'm actually in a Facebook group with Billy Sheehan lol. He's great!

[@TheBaconWizard]

Definitely would like to see this go further

[@eddiemaiden2012]

Sounds wicked

[@Don.Carnage]

I dig the detuned slightly sound too a lil

[@MilesTippett]

Id like to see you try this with a bass VI, adding guitar strings to make a Bass XII!!!!!

[@golduckroger]

Fender would like to know your location 🤣

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

Or do that to a 12 string guitar

[@MilesTippett]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions I was thinking the Vi would work better since it already has the 30 inch scale.

[@mauri7959]

It sounds awesome

[@BuildYourOwnBass]

I keep popping back to 4:35 to hear that nasty natural pitch shifting groove. It punches above its weight class for sure

[@stefanvanjaarsveld7589]

Would like to see a video comparing bass strings vs guitars strings of the same gauges. Curious to see if it makes a difference if you just use bass strings on an 8 string for example.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Hi Kevin that's a really awsome instrument, the Octave Strings going through the Body can be Piccolo Bass Strings cause they're esseintially the same size as Guitar Strings but with Bass Ball Ends.

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

Good point... I had some guitar strings laying around at the time though lol

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

@@SaidTooMuchProductions Yeah I love this instrument cause you can use it for song covers with a pretty epic sound like for example the song I'd like you to play on this 6 String 3 Course Bass/Guitar Hybrid next Monday is Shake it Off by Taylor Swift arranged by Roger Emerson. The system of having the Octave Strings strung through the Body & the regular Bass strings strung through the bridge on this 6 String 3 Course Bass kinda reminds me of how my 12 String Stratocaster is strung. The regular Strings are strung through the Body & the Octave strings are strung through the Bridge.

[@JohnDoe-dh8xc]

Honestly this would be great for a two piece punk band. I want 5 of them

[@mashilmy]

Best 6 string strat-bass build 😂😂

[@vontinkles]

Some Royal Blood riffs in there? Lovin' the instrument experiments.. Nice job!

[@James_Dawes]

Awesome bro

[@apothecurio]

that is cool af.

[@moonchild4806]

The Chris Squire triple neck top neck! These things are always fun to mess around with.

[@blahblahsen1142]

ive dabbled in this kinda idea with a 4 string bass, and eventually i just got an octave pedal. you can also just Ryan Martinie t-rex tap, which ive very slowly learned to do fairly decently. sounds as good but no mods needed, just gotta learn to aim your strikes accurately.

[@nabilyassin1742]

this the And justice for all bass/guitar.

[@pfg_pedals]

Tom Peterson from Cheap Trick was a big player of eight strings back in the seventies and had the first twelve string bass built in 79, four course of strings with one bass and two unison octaves. The intro to Jeremy by Pearl Jam is a twelve string bass. This six string bass isn't new, just an eight string missing one course of strings.

[@louischappellholmes2708]

ive converted many 4 and 5 string basses to 8 and 10 string. usually with fender style bass bridges with a screw and saddle instead of a floating saddle, if you want i can send you a picture of one of the bridges of one of my conversions if that would help. the floating saddle individual bridges complicate it more than it really needs to be

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

Sure man, @ me on I Instagram or email me [e-mail]

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

Also check the description for the facebook group and discord, we need more people in the facebook group lol

[@pedrodargen1431]

Can you make a 6 string guitar conversion to a 7 string?

[@themorrigan1312]

On one hand, maybe an 8-string coursed bass may have been a better idea. On the other, I really dig the tone of that 6-string

[@wbwillie]

I had the idea for a coursed 8 string just using an 8 string guitar set

[@kielbasa.sausage]

Make a guitar(or bass) where you can change out fret boards interchangeably and maintain intonation. Probably impossible but with this channel nothing is impossible.

[@brunogrill3774]

I love your cursed build like that poor Ibanez bass

[@IntoTheForest]

What amp sim are you using? Or are you using something like fab filter Saturn to keep the low octave clean but distort the high octaves. Either way it sounds really cool!!

[@SaidTooMuchProductions]

I've got the DI routed to basically a multiband compressor to solo the 50-100hz area, then I also route the DI high passed around 100hz into helix native with some wideners on it since I'm not double tracking

[@IntoTheForest]

Said Too Much Productions That’s a really ingenious solution to get a pretty cool and unique tone!

[@jacobsage2025]

I'd love to see you mess with a really 12 string bass

[@GrumpyTy34er]

What if you used nylon bass strings and octave metal strings?

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Why not use the bottom 3 strings from a set of piccolo bass strings?

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

As your octave strings

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

They can wait.

[@joebassman6273]

Sounds like royal blood with the bass and guitar all come from 1 instrument

[@danmaycock9238]

Bet you could do some right knarly black metal with that!!

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

That detuned sound is really choir like

[@floridianthrasher5426]

6:09 that's my riff that goes to one of my band's songs

[@jordancastillo5251]

Didn't Chris Squire do something like this?

[@najmihakimkhairi1210]

Build your custom guitar or dream guitar

[@SamYaZdian]

awesome idea. its ultimate octabass. genius idea that should be mass produced

[@metalheadblues]

Royal blood would probably put that to use

[@russellzauner]

That thing is a DOOM MACHINE. Now I know what to do if I get a bari 6 - take down a few city blocks with the THUNDERING HOWL

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

I thought that the D String was a Green Ball End it should be a Black.

[@tavicotavio]

You mean cursed 6 string right

[@waizzee5970]

(sigh) ...

[@JD-cg6nv]

But does it djent?

[@therealhelmholtz]

that riff at 5:59 reminds me of "Freezing Eggs in Minnesota" by my Minnesota Death Metal band, Øresund Bridge.

[@Knifeawatermelon]

Coursed strings tuned to 5ths was an interesting idea. You could have somebody who’s really bad at guitar be a rhythm player in a band.

[@zpunky567]

Can you do a video about a tuning that is only tritones? Like E A# E A# E A#? Or an all major seconds tuning like C D E F# G# A#?

[@patrickwallace128]

noice

[@ivyisle]

Worth the cost of trying for simple unicorn fact

[@Colovwwusv8]

When it detunes it sounds like when electronic people detune their synths, kinda cool tbh

[@mechwarrior5727]

i feel we kinda need clean signals for the tests instead of just distorted, its kinda hard to hear

[@patrickletoiledemerde5989]

The Official Bass from Royal Blood

[@dylaneverhartmusic]

Ok now here's what I wanna see - instead of a power trio, a power duo with a drummer and a singer playing this bass/guitar.

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

Taylor Swift would love this instrument

[@morgellan5636]

You should convert banjo to an acoustic guitar, see how it sounds.

[@materiagrezza9331]

Banjo guitars already exist and are actually quote common

[@4the0cean]

I am pretty sure the intonation is highly dependent on the string ratios. I looked up 8 string sets and found the two lower strings are exactly half of each other but the two high strings aren't. This is the set I referenced. "D'Addario EXL170-8 8-String Nickel Wound Bass Guitar Strings." I played an 8 string schecter bass before and had no issues with it. I was demoing it for a someone at a shop so I didn't get to buy it.

[@davidpiersonlazarov5562]

Why?

[@BaBaBaBenny]

I can imagine this sounding really good in a two-piece garage rock/punk band. It’d be like Royal Blood meets the presidents of the united states of america!

[@derianefrain5745]

Mike Kerr from Royal Blood wants to know your location

[@elkayezs8wslkwaterfountain826]

This is both coursed, and cursed

[@MikeyLikey95]

He looks like a mix between Adam Neely and Arin Hanson somehow.

[@juniormorais-gt]

Sounds like Royal Blood sometimes.

[@xaviert393]

He looks like Billy Corgan’s long lost son.

[@MakeLinuxSimple]

Now try to turn ukulele in to uprait bass

[@ravelitschimo]

Sounds like a stoner Band

[@nmnmnm9509]

Its very good but distortion is not an appropriate choice for an 8 string bass, Basically distortion is not useful in bass especially for playing chords, even high quality basses sound mudy in chords! You only can have Clean tone with a little overdrive with high quality pickups.

[@_personelle]

Someone give a fretless one of these to les claypool

[@russellzauner]

I bet you could sell this to that guy that builds guitars for Muse

[@calebmunkirs9661]

When it started going out of tune it made me think of an octave pitch shifter or whatever paired with some kind of chorus/phlanger/phaser pedal. Sorry I'm not extremely pedal savvy

[@BreadGod]

please use different background music

[@yujin602]

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[@cobalt._.27]

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO THE FLORIDA BASS?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WHY? you know what? fuck it, 6-string double course Florida bass

[@matthewtalafous2004]

You smoke too much pot

[@didi_abdillah]

literally it's 3 Strings Bass with extra guitar strings

[@RockStarOscarStern634]

It's a 6 String 3 Course Bass

[@davidpiersonlazarov5562]

Wtf

[@cookie0329]

I CANT HEAR SHIT PLAY IT WITH CLEAN TONE

[@randysgut3214]

too much distortion