Sailing legend John Kretchmer talks safety with Zingaro | BTS Podcast 10

One of the most prolific sailors on the planet, John Kretschmer sits down to set the record straight on Man Over Board procedures, ship safety, books, boats, and life goals in this special edition of Between Two Sheets.
MP3: www.buzzsprout...
❤️
Patreon: / svzingaro
Paypal: www.paypal.me/...
Merch: / @thelastpirate
👇
Website: svzingaro.com/
Facebook: / svzingaro
Instagram: / sailing_zingaro
👨‍👩‍👦‍👦
OC Tenders: octenders.co.nz/
Spectra Watermakers: www.spectrawat...
Turt Sunglasses: turtsunglasses...
Kraken Structures: / seamonsterstrong
🎶
Epidemic Sound

[@Lunchman.d]

Audio sounds better than a lot of people who do podcasts in a studio space

[@thelastpirate]

Thanks! I put effort into that. I think I've got it about dialed now.

[@davidcaerbert9531]

Awesome interview. 37 years commercial fishing and I learned quite a bit from this podcast, even after a couple AMSEA safety classes.

[@generossano2800]

Hey James, this has been the best spent hour in a very, very, long time. You and John are two guys that have sailed the world and have lots of real-life experiences. Please make sure that you get this session out to the sailing world. I loved it.

[@DiabloSpearguns]

One of the best Zíngaro episodes i have watched.

[@gregorysprimont550]

Best interview yet, he is a sailing god. Love everything he said and to remember it.

[@stul8724]

Thanks for introducing me to John Kretchmer. Such an hour of positive energy!

[@tarivard]

I just spent 56 minutes saying to myself - "yep, yep, yep" - what an awesome interview. The MOB discussion was right on the money. I am 100% on board (literally) with John's opinion (experience). I had Raymarine ES hybrid version of the chart plotter on my Tartan because I never wanted to trust the touch screen alone. I used Tack Tick wireless which could talk to the chart plotter with Sea Talk however, could run independently. Awesome stuff! Loved every second of this interview.

[@milkoberben2963]

Normally I get bored quickly with people sitting down doing the easy thing but this does it for me no nonsense

[@jhaedtler]

Love the way this guy thinks! All Common Sense. Thanks for the video!

[@Gerard6235]

That was amazing just learned so much . Cheers mate.

[@docjeffry]

40:53 I could not agree more. Eyes outside, people! Look at that beautiful world!

[@jasonwin5499]

great interview with a real legend i wish he did a youtube channel

[@johnneal9400]

James, thank you so much. John is so full of knowledge and wisdom, I find myself constantly seeking out his teachings wherever I can find them. Your interview with him is another small source of that knowledge, and I appreciated you taking the time and asking great questions. Be safe and I hope to see you out there someday.

[@voodoochild1954]

Excellent!!! John is one cool cat. Love hearing him talk. Great advice. Thank you James for doing this!

[@MarkLah]

Wow, that was an awesome interview, one of the best sailing related chats I've ever seen on YT!

[@islandonlinenews]

good talk. Thanks

[@briankatz7885]

Fantastic interview James! Great questions and great content. John left the day we got down to Bermuda, so it’s too bad that we just missed him. It was fantastic getting to meet Nathan and Vivian, and of course hanging with you and the crew down there (the sailing away party the last night was epic). Our trip up to Connecticut on Libra with Ryan was fantastic. Hope your crossing went well and looking forward to the videos when they come out!

[@austinbees]

What a legend.

[@danpinsonsax]

Great interview. I want to sail with John.

[@danieloliver20]

Me too, but it ain't cheap!

[@garyevans5905]

Dont like his attitude to covid , so he would never see me. His main stream media 'sheep follower' attitude sucks.

[@zzzxxzzz3248]

This episode did not disappoint ! Thanks for sharing !

[@tlr724]

Very Well Done James!

[@generossano2800]

Hey James, thank you for inviting John Kretschmer on your show. I have heard about John for a long time but have never heard from him before. John is like you, real people, with a real sailing history, and at his age, a real future. I appreciate his most realistic view on "man overboard". His #1 rule was my #1 rule. "Don't fall overboard". I am in total agreement with John on "Man Overboard". James, this is clearly the singularly most important issue mentioned on any sailing channel that I have seen in the last year or more. I view over 25 channels and I am forever questioning why the captain and crew are not wearing PFDs and safety lines etc. Please get your show out to the entire sailing vessel captain's audience before someone gets killed. Great informative show.

[@evinwhiteson4902]

I bet youre double jabed and twice boosted. Life on the edge

[@jefflangille2882]

Thats just common sense when in rough weather or solo sailing. You clearly have no experience at sea

[@gregstark9885]

That was an amazing interview. The questions you picked were very good. The idea of doing crazy maneuvers for MOB never made sense to me. I am all in with John.

[@curtmotley7539]

Awesome interview James! I just took ASA 101 thanks to inspiration from channels like yours. What really resonates with me is what John said about man overboard drills and real life applications. Even on a lake we would sometimes be 75 yards or more away after coming out of the figure eight. What John said about stopping the boat and using the motor seems much more practical in a full on emergency that someone in the water is.

[@tna2me197]

I remember meeting John back in his delivery days when he used to give talks at Strictly Sail in Chicago years ago.

[@Antipodean33]

Top fella, been living the dream for decades and continues to do so. Pity he never kept a journal, he could've published that as a book. I'd also like to add to his man over board chat and that is to always carry a sharp knife. So if you are tethered and need to get untethered quickly you can, also other scenarios where a knife is essential, getting rolled and tangled for example. Great chat mate, love hearing from the people who have done it and still are doing it, especially when they speak as openly and honestly as he does, not to mention how easy he is to listen to, his delivery is easy to listen to. You know some people are hard to listen to for any extended period, with constant pauses and err's and ah's and umm's

[@yachticus]

always carry a knife is a thing - for a sailor its just has to be in the DNA

[@jacekcentkowski979]

Great, Great, Great, Thank you!!!!!

[@Yeaitstemp]

John kretschmer book at the mercy of the sea was first book that had me at the edge of my seat

[@raireva4689]

Great interview....between two guys who like to talk...fascinating! Thank you

[@wayneedwards5158]

That was an awesome interview! Two cool dude's talking shop! 👍

[@roxyknight4909]

Great interview with a legend

[@krista7722]

Great podcast. You really nailed the f…ing interview. Great job. Be proud

[@walterjanzen4715]

Just watched again ! Great great video

[@chrisferguson237]

What a great conversation. Thank you mate. Liked and Subscribed!

[@saintnick1552]

John might be the smartest sailor out there...He is definitely the best coach and teacher....I have seen him on a number of these podcasts, calm cool collected, experienced in everything......He really is the Poster Man of sailing, and I have never been on a boat with him....I have only listened to this wise man ..great guest well spoken, guy should write a book. or two lol ......stay safe stay thirsty..

[@DCGULL01]

James- GREAT Interview. I never, ever get tired of listening to John K? I like his 'narrative' point of view, it does give depth of meaning to the journey, and he's been trying to make the journey the joy for a long time (successfully, I might add!) I keep forgetting that you're on a bigboi H-R for the summer & heading over to the Med. My guess is that you're on your way to the Azores as we speak. Hope it's going well & impressed that you got a video out while in the middle of the Atlantic, but- expect that you have "shore support' for throwing up videos in a timely manner, and suspect that you have a few interviews in your back pocket as well! Travel safe my friend!

[@BlueArchaicAngel]

Excellent talk! Thank you both

[@jamesgood6065]

The last 30 seconds was priceless! Fantastic interview.

[@bradsvsophia6626]

When put on the spot, John rattled off not only the names of the books he read, but the authors too! I could not remember the author of the book series I am reading right now! Nice interview James. Thx.

[@svZia-Switch51]

Your best interview so far!

[@skippercirelli2097]

Damn this is seriously a great interview with JK, the best I've seen on the net - seriously.

[@braddobson2060]

Very good video

[@2singingsquadronofficial567]

Hahaha what an amazing episode. i loved it . James and John thank you very much ! For the whole hour eyes and ears were glued and the smile couldn't leave me. the last few minutes got me crackin. Appreciate the questions the great answers, and THE BOOK IDEAS!!! man it makes me wanna start them ASAP. Kind regards, Andrew.

[@Eznot2cme]

Loved it. Thanks

[@bobsharp6489]

WOW great talk cool guy!

[@davidmorris8088]

Thank you for this awesome interview. Love hearing Mr. John talk. First saw you when Jordan and Deseray made it to Bermuda. That led to my firat sail boat/project purchase. Crazy how the timing worked out on that. I just subscribed to your channel. I look forward to keeping up with the adventures. Thank you for doing your part in the sailing community.

[@thelastpirate]

Welcome :) Yeah John is a gem. So are Jordan and Des. I've got great people around me, an now you! :)

[@robbinbaker5497]

Excellent,thank you

[@daviddavid8389]

Hi James, I have only sailed 100k plus, this has to be the best ever you tube interview. I sat here agreeing with all John had to say. In particular MOB, here in the UK there's a saying " The RYA way or no way"....... they wouldn't teach his methods, the reason being they just get the bits of paper that states you have learnt what you have been taught, ("zero to hero" BS...) Nothing beats experience. Fantastic interview! and I never write comments! well done David

[@juanvalle219]

You over did yourself. Like many other comments this sailor knows his stuff. I have read Pardey and he is at that level. Thanks for the interview.

[@leonasimmons162]

Thank you for sharing.😊

[@MCMaxwell100]

Brilliant. Thanks to both of you for doing this interview. Definitely a keeper.

[@Cylon197504]

Awesome interview.

[@tonystewart7287]

Great interview and wise words 😎😎

[@williamdykes2750]

James. Here is a book recommendation. Matterhorn. The author is a Rhodes Scholar and a US Marine officer who served his time and returned to civ life. I cut and pasted the following from another source. "In his debut novel, Matterhorn, Vietnam combat veteran Karl Marlantes attempts to transport his readers to 1969, in a jungle near Laos, just south of the Vietnamese Demilitarized Zone - DMZ - where a company of young U.S. Marines are fighting for their lives in a war none of them really understands. And while no one who didn't serve in Vietnam can really grasp what life in that time, that place, was like, Marlantes comes closer than any American writer ever has to capturing the unrelenting terror and enormity of one of the saddest chapters in recent world history."

[@bm-kb8kh]

TOP interview!

[@DirkJacobsz]

Love this guy - talks real world sense - thanks John.. and such a humble guy - Trevor Robertson has done wild stuff - google his boat in the ice - shew tough SOB..

[@donburnett8629]

James that was the best time spent in quite some time. Have read his books and you were prepared and asked great questions. Couldn't agree more about the MOB discussion. Sometimes controversial but makes sense to me. Cool cats indeed! Thanks!!

[@skippercirelli2097]

Can't believe I just found this video- so damn good and informative. Thank you.

[@thelastpirate]

John is a good friend, and a better captain there is none...

[@alu.minium521]

Thank you. Great advice and topics.

[@sailingthalassa]

This was an incredibly helpful interview , watched it twice to take in all the great advice .

[@captaincrunchie8814]

James, in the light of your furling failing underway, this interview with John was amazingly well timed. Moreover, if you adopt his philosophies on boat safety - particularly about man overboard and tethering - you will be a far more safety conscious captain. Serendipity or fate, John is the best guy to help you access what you have been through by relating it to actual life experience. There is none better.

[@Mountainmandean207]

cool interview

[@eamonncoady9823]

nothing to add ,very enjoyable. thank you both.

[@valerieb.4912]

James you are getting some "Elite Sailors/Captains" on your channel "Between 2 Sheets" that are so informative and such Cool Cats! Happy Sailing ⛵

[@erikkarauss2944]

This was really awesome James! So cool! Thank you!

[@craig6987]

The other good thing about staying on the high side is that if you do fall, you are going run into stuff that may stop or slow you and even be able to grab onto

[@richhamel6810]

JK is such a legend, what a great interview.

[@svoceanrhythms1209]

John is alining legend! Great interview.

[@rohantherockwiththerocketh7871]

That was a very interesting interview and the fact that he has such a different viewpoint of various situations is really cool because it is a full on opportunity to think about his attitude and why he has that way of thinking, thanks James. Have fun mate!

[@petergroves9343]

What a great podcast man, could have happily listened (watched) another hour of that After Colin from Parley Revival, this is by far the best Many thanks to you & John for putting some time into this And as for the arm wrestling, hilarious, looks can be very deceiving Fair winds to you both ⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵

[@neilrush659]

What an amazing podcast, so informative and educational. Thank you James for putting this out and introducing this man to us. Wow, John is a world of knowledge and such a kool dude too. Great stuff James....Blessings and safe travels.

[@GeneRossano]

Hey James, this is the second time that I have watched this interview with John Kretschmer, It was sensational. So incredibly informative, interesting and entertaining. I loved it. You and John simply related and informed while entertaining. I was especially happy to hear again john's views on "man overboard and full keel hung verses skeg or spade rudders. I had a 1976 new Challenger 35 Ketch rig sailed on Lake Ontario from April, 1st to November,1st from 1977 till 1994. She was a dream and the wheel was a one finger sail and she could steer herself if I got the sails properly balanced including a big 180 jenoa or drifter and full main with mizzen staysail if off the wind a bit.

[@paul_gradenwitz]

I did see in Sailing Uma how they have other safety gear. When you fall over board that line will turn you on your back so that you face up in the water. Then even with a fast moving boat you are not drowned. They tested it and judged it to work. Thanks for this episode!

[@billybrown5774]

Great interview!!

[@sailingwiththeerros9139]

Into the wind ASAP- agree 100%. Long tethers and jacklines close to the lifelines don't make much sense. I've only got one tether and its a medium length. After this video i think i'll buy a short tether to add to my gear bag. Good chat, thanks for sharing James.

[@geoGELLER]

Loved this heart to heart talk between two of you and watching John think and you, James listen / as a documentary filmmaker "a good talker is a better listener " loved the comment about we are narrators in or own narrative / food for thought

[@curtisstansfield9244]

Such a fantastic interview, James! John, Vivian Voung, and Nathan Zahrt are from my home marina, Spring Cove Marina on Solomons Island. John is such a wealth of sailing knowledge and just a super nice, down-to-earth guy. I really enjoyed the Man Over Board (MOB) discussion, what John was saying and mentioned is NOT what you learn in sailing school, ASA, or any other school unless it is John's teachings, and it made more sense than what I have ever been told or taught. If you are ever in the Solomons Island area, please look me up, I would be honored to host a fellow Navy veteran...

[@SteifWood]

The only reason I can write this comment is that it was me who survived a MOB. We were two onboard doing 8-9 knots on a broad reach in 10 m/s and heavy sea. My friend unhooked the tedder while changing position, didn't look at the sea, tripped when a rouge wave hit, fell, and was found eight hours later. As said: have short tedders, always be hooked wherever you are and whatever you do on the boat, and wear a linked MOB device or have at least a handheld GPS with MOB button you can activate - at the helm. ALL the time. It might save everybody's lives as a failed recovery will stick with you forever. Just sayin' ....

[@UUBrahman]

John Kretchschmer's book entitled Sailing a Serious Ocean is well worth reading.

[@psychotropicthunder877]

john is kickass, thanks for this. You both have great outlooks and he is a living wealth of knowledge, like a walking(sailing) example of wisdom. Had to watch the one on ocean cruisers podcast after this one!

[@peterstarkey1360]

G/day , l have to say , seriously , Well Done , REALLY , I know what he's talking about...this Need for OPEN OCEAN TIME...it resets your DEEP INNER SOUL....You Can't Buy it... You Experience it...it's quiet something.....I MISS IT...cheers

[@SamuelKTennis]

James, excellent interview. He is right, you are gifted in your trade. I have started doing podcasts recently, as the lowly co-host / straight man, and I have so much to learn, so much to improve. Thank you for a valuable experience. Sam

[@we-can-do]

John Kretchmer strikes one as the consummate human being - forged from his spirit to explore himself within the extreme parameters of life. Can you imagine a world where such characteristics dominate?

[@WavedancerWesterlyfulmar]

Love his 2 rules 😂 have them on our yacht too

[@viking00777777]

Excellent interview. If you want a idea how Poly islands have changed over the years, there’s a cool 10 part vid of a German family who sailed from 1970 or so. Another YT sailor “Learning by Doing” met the father who is still trying to sail and it’s a faciatig story

[@mikeferguson2828]

Nice one James. Yup had the same problem with my Raymarine autopilot head then discovered that if you set your mdf display as a “master” then use your head to select it then when you dim your mdf it dims all your instruments together which is a nice function.

[@markvanhorn1437]

James you have found your niche...Please don't stop doing interviews.

[@malcthom1]

Great discussion James. As far as the drowning on a tether thing goes: 1. Jacklines on midline of boat not side decks so can’t go overboard 2. Use of backtow system (TeamO PFD) which you can get towed at speed without submerging / drowning!

[@michaelvonrautenberg2388]

The Swarm... Frank Schätzing.... i love it

[@kscharky8951]

really great advice.

[@iainflintoff9647]

Nice!!!

[@andrewlaming]

Several yachts have sunk, I think it's up to 4 now a couple of which were over 50ft. There's a major hot spot near Barbate to definitely avoid

[@thomasevans5467]

Hey alright Barry Lopez. My good friends mom was his Romantic partner. Barry died recently Christmas day 2020, glad to hear that you are digging into his body of work.

[@markrickel1632]

When your story includes drunken arm wrestling with John K. Well, you must be doing something right. Great episode.

[@MrYlojelo]

Ive watched this twice, just to make sure i understand it all.

[@stul8724]

James…Super interview and channel…unless you have eye sensitivity to light, lose the shades on your podcasts…the eyes reveal your soul…which your soul can inspire so many of us 👍

[@thelastpirate]

I do these interviews outside in the cockpit, and the sun is very brutal. It's just a comfort thing. ;) Thanks for the kudos, Stu. Much love from Ibiza, Spain!

[@matthewgilbert1765]

John, you are so correct and of course, so... I work on a charter fishing boat which of course I know isn't a sailboat but in this case, our main priority In this situation is to get eyesight and do anything and everything possible SAFLEY duh... to get this person back on board every situation will be so different but I think the most important part is staying calm again staying CALM and make confident steps and actions is the most important component of whatever plan is in place you can have a bullet proof plan but the main component is being calm and have safety gear you can rely on then you can rely on the plan so in my eyes I think the 3 things and the order idk everyone can decide but for me, I think dependable gear and practicing calmness and then a bullet proof plan so it's possible to perform but just my thought but I love this Ep you never fail James love your content man I cant wait to see you at anchorage someday soon i should be splashing in 45-60 days but we all know how that goes hhaha FML haha

[@doradosurfcharters]

Iron bark Trevor 🙏 love your interviews thanks 👍

[@Neptune730]

Hey James, great interview. Check out the books A salty piece of land by Jimmy Buffet and Thief of the deep and it's sequel Black Wolf by Jon Coon.

[@WillN2Go1]

Amazing conversation. John's MOB thinking seems really smart. We never got around to heaving to in any of the courses I took. One day out solo as a complete rookie, I had to pee. (I'd already read John's book so peeing off the side? No romance but there is risk. I spent a week with guys who just seemed giddy that they got to pee off the boat.) It was about 14 knots, 32', I locked down the wheel, went below to the head and got my ass kicked. This ain't going to work. Back at the helm, I started to figure out heaving to. Lemme see, to heave to you turn into the wind and then you.... it was already done. One of the easiest and most useful things in sailing. But which way do you turn the rudder? One way something begins to happen, the other nothing happens. When I have a guest aboard for day sailing and we're banging close to the wind, I'll heave to so they can pee, get some water, whatever. And as an old ocean swimmer the safest and easiest position to be in is to be close to where you can get out - not waiting for a boat to turn around and come back to you. I really appreciate this thinking.