All Signs That Troy Bradshaw Was An Undercover Cop In Saints Row

[@MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz]

"I don't like the idea of Lin going undercover, you roll with people long enough and pretty soon you start thinkin' like 'em..."

[@864fanta9]

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[@velocilevon]

Sleeping Dogs handles this subject extremely well

[@bhavjotbrar5376]

Saints row as well I see you everywhere

[@bakerhalt]

@@864fanta9 this is a music video, no need to click it for anyone wondering, it's trash.

[@donairechristianp]

My friend, we meet again

[@wolfmanhcc]

Just the name "Troy" is a subtle homage to the Trojan Horse.

[@willbaker6532]

To be fair that's more of a clue to the player of the game rather than a real clue seeing as it's his actual name

[@bandolierboy1908]

@S Z seems like it was a 90s thing :/

[@hayzeus877]

You’re right! That means get fucked

[@Machete87]

@S Z i do they are all over the midwest

[@SocietyKilledTheUnicorn]

@S Z I knew a Troy. He was a stalker. Asked to borrow my phone once, before I knew this....

[@herschelschueler]

The actual Undercover Cop cares more about the Saints than Dex. Let that sink in.

[@Shadow-876]

*Looks at sink* WHAT THE FUCK DOES HE WANT NOW?!

[@aneesahajam6884]

@@Shadow-876 *wheeze* Oh shit I just died of laughter XD

[@plaguedoctor_139]

Let the sink in.

[@johncenaplayingstarcraft9580]

>cares equally about the saints safety and cops lives >keeps the playa alive on LS >doesn't go against the gang the cops support all around mediator and amazing middleman. Troy is likeable and genuinely cares about his gang, his PD Squad, and the lives of the citizens. Best side-arc and pre-sr3 arc in the series. a lawful neutral man vs a neutral evil like dex, or a chaotic evil like the player

[@randomcomment7583]

Do you always let random sinks in your home?

[@kidshotgamer2601]

He still had the saints back tho. In the first saints row 3 mission, a cop on a speaker yells, “Troy can’t get you out of this one”. Implying that he used his power as chief of police to keep bailing the saints out of jail whenever they get arrested.

[@Crazymoniker]

Holy shit you're right.

[@GicN]

Nice catch

[@864fanta9]

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[@TJZ243]

And then in Saints Row 4 he just straight up dies on earth like WTF VOLITION! No respect to Troy at all.

[@richblackkid2523]

troy is a bitch

[@skyfaller1198]

Troy literally kept the player alive when he was on life support after the coma. He offered all the gang members freedom if they dropped flags. Bar his “shitty haircut” (damn it dex) Troy is one of the most important and best characters

[@Merlaut715]

Because he got attached to the gang, even called them his friends. Reminds me of Wei Shen from Sleeping Dogs.

[@skyfaller1198]

@@Merlaut715 Troy is a real one

[@uhbruh9223]

@@skyfaller1198 he really is

[@herschelschueler]

@@Merlaut715 Wei never had a problem with Winston or Jackie. Just with Dogeyes and by association the Sun on Yee as a whole. When Dogeyes whacked Winston and Peggy that probably brought everything back even more. Hard not to sympathize when it's all so eeringly similar.

[@KahinAhmed72]

Then why did Johnny try to kill Troy?

[@supermutant963]

Troy kept the player alive in saints row 2 probably because Troy is a good guy that wanted to help the person who got dragged into a dangerous gang by getting caught in the cross fire

[@Diamond_2403]

I think it was because Troy became good friends with the gang even though he was undercover. He offered them freedom if they dropped flags and went clean.

[@thesilentsociety3252]

He did the same for Johnny as well, because he knew cops we're gonna try something

[@Scallycowell]

Except the player turns into a monster in the second game

[@Machete87]

yep nearly crossing paths with kings Rollers and Carnales, Troy right off the bat told Julius come on he's just some random guy with no ties to any of this. no need to get him involved while Julius was all we need all the help we can get... Troy was only lookin out 4 him.

[@thatrandomperson6609]

Kind of reminding me of brian in F&F

[@DreamingGoldGirlz]

Troy is such an exceptional character. It's a crying shame some of the SR1 characters were barely touched on again. In my eyes SR2's biggest flaw is that we never really got significant content with Troy. (That next to the whole Dex thing, of course)

[@mr.hungrio7270]

Well, the only ones that got touched was the protag, Gat, tobias,Donnie, and wong guy, damn shame, and legal lee was just in one story cutscene too

[@mattreyes4803]

Troy either got caught being an informant and died or got out. If he did his job he would have helped arrest the saints permanently after the first game

[@RexZShadow]

@@mattreyes4803 what? Troy is like the police chief in SR2 if I remember correctly.

[@864fanta9]

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[@prototypefan1234]

@@mattreyes4803 actually Troy helps the Saints all the way until they got to steelport, in which his Stilwater influence wouldn't be able to help bail them out of jail repeatedly (or keep them on life support)

[@kadnaz]

Troy was a brilliantly written character and is still one of my favourite characters in the game. When I played the game a second time knowing he was undercover it made his cutscenes so much better.

[@864fanta9]

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[@theprofessional155]

There was one more thing . In that mission for the rollerz where you and Troy blow up their cars . He says that he doesn’t like Linn going undercover it’s too risky .

[@michaelm.2736]

Oh hey, didn't expect you here

[@mateoreyes6921]

Hi profesionsal Will you play Saints Row in your channel?

[@checkerszome76]

hi professional I really hope you play all the saint row games

[@eugeneturner7520]

Yeah, he made a comment about how it's easy to accidently get too far in when doing undercover work, and how easy it is to forget who you are. Speaking of gangster video games, you did good work on that there Liberty City Stories.

[@PleaseDoNotDoThis]

Pro do a Saints Row series.

[@MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz]

Gotta give credit to Michael Rapaport for voicing a sarcastic joker of the Saints.

[@redfather5342]

He also voiced joe leone in gta 3

[@KOSHIFROMTHEROC]

Michael rapaport really an underrated all star

[@zanehaidar5732]

It's pretty cool they used him as well since he's known for playing cops in his movies and TV series

[@St_Rizla]

Heard him in a sketch on the chappelle show, he's funny too lol

[@corvidconfidential8826]

Deeeeeam Dewey, u'z a crow nao. Culd as ice meaan. Deeam morshal why u gotta be harassin us

[@rexnihilum7822]

The writers on SR1 and SR2 are insanely talented, it's such a compelling story and such well written characters

[@paintedpig3021]

Still upset we never got a mission with Troy in SR2

[@DB-bq6zc]

He was in a mission as a cutscenes as forced to let the Brotherhood out of prison and he can be a homie.

[@Merlaut715]

@@DB-bq6zc Not with the Boss tho. They didn't cross paths in SR2's story.

[@ceshmate1953]

he kept the playa alive during life support.

[@ScottishScrub]

You can call him as a homie and bring him along on missions, closest you'll get I guess

[@johncenaplayingstarcraft9580]

wish we got a dex revenge mission after ultor exposed

[@nemysyys2285]

“Why cant you be like my man ovah here?” The man: 👁👄👁

[@864fanta9]

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[@alejandrosool]

Lmao

[@adibfarhan7956]

🤣

[@jpragata017]

I mean, yous a rook back then, listening to your lieutenants cuz you new blood.

[@JokerSaintsRow]

*When I first played it I always thought he was loyal and was suprised when he pulled out that badge.*

[@АлексейСвиридов-у9о]

He remained loyal to the Saints even after uncovering though.

[@JokerSaintsRow]

@@АлексейСвиридов-у9о I don't recall but did the boss realize how much Troy did for him or did he have revenge for Troy? (im stupid for not remembering)

[@АлексейСвиридов-у9о]

@@JokerSaintsRow AFAIK boss remain neutral to Troy, but Johnny Gat tried to kill Troy when he found out that he is a cop. That's why he is in prison at start of SR2. However through recordings of Troy and Julius dialogue boss will find out that Troy wanted Julius to disband saints as painless as possible, but Julius decided to bomb boss and Troy didn't liked it, but he didn't even arrested him for this though.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

I was 14 I didn’t really think he was a cop but he felt shifty to me so I never really trusted him

[@joshkeller4780]

@@JokerSaintsRow he does get revenge in saints row 2, the boss kills both Julius and him.

[@GXTHIE]

Troy Bradshaw mad underrated

[@KidneyStealer02]

And he most important in Saints Row 2 story.

[@claudewinchester7068]

Best cop in the series. In-game, Stilwater PD are just as much of a gang as the gangs themselves. I've seen them beat people for no reason.

[@rugga3267]

Nahh he a snitch

[@GXTHIE]

@@rugga3267 for "a SniTcH" he actually cared abt the saints a lot and shows that in the gameplay and cutscenes as well and the audio tapes. If it wasn't for Troy, the playa wouldn't be alive rn (and there would be no sequel).

[@iceyicon]

@@GXTHIE yeah i agree , though he’s a rat .. i think part of him did fr care about the gang.

[@mfspectacular]

You missed one in sr1. When he's hotwiring the truck he mentions he shouldve paid more attention during training, or something to that effect

[@Dylan_Sterling]

How’s your theoretical degree in physics coming along?

[@Sceusell]

@@Dylan_Sterling do you think he’s got a degree in theoretical physics? he looks like the kind of guy with a degree in theoretical physics.

[@milgos5269]

@@Sceusell he looks like the kind of guy to get a theoretical degree in physics

[@jaredthompson553]

Boss heard that and didn’t nothing

[@feroxfire4128]

Wow, Gat is great but he is really the boss’ best friend by default since everyone else betrays you.

[@torimato]

Or gets murdered

[@zack_0psgaming150]

Technically neither did Troy, sure he was a cop but he never busted the boss and even kept him alive. He may have been blue but deep down he was purple!

[@aaronjames3228]

?

[@dannyleyamato1309]

May be a cop Aligned with saints

[@Raccoonrenegade]

This is pretty smart writing, kinda sucks that the games went into a far more goofy route

[@andrewdunn5568]

Saints Row 2 had the balance down perfect. Still one of my favourite games

[@brandongravitt9199]

Blame trying to compete w/Grand Theft Auto. Watch Dogs tried the same thing Saint’s Row did, and now they’re goofy too. Thing is, being realistic was GTA’s thing. Now Rockstar is trying to compete with SR with flying cars, and they’re failing at it.

[@Mahandshurt]

Bro after saints row 2 I think new niggas start making the game cuz ain’t no way in hell they went that route after making a banger ass game and story line to that

[@Moniker8858]

I think it was a decent step into changing it from a generic GTA clone and more into its own identity

[@DutchOrbit]

@@Moniker8858 nah it just turned into crackdown/gta. still no identity

[@abucket14]

Most people forget this, but in the manual for the original game it has a section of the booklet recording a conversation with an undercover Informant who smokes cigarettes and Troy is the only named saint who smokes cigarettes.

[@NEETKitten]

Lin does too.

[@abucket14]

@@NEETKitten I think you are correct, but i believe their is also a silhouette somewhere and they use He/Him pronouns i think. thanks for catching my slip up though :)

[@justnoob8141]

@@NEETKittenand she’s dead, how did she wrote it?

[@simonpeter5032]

"The shitty haircut" is almost as big a signifier as wearing sketches irl

[@864fanta9]

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[@psychakilla]

Yee yee ass haircut

[@guccik805]

Main reason was how he always asked too many questions and he never wanted too hit the police station

[@864fanta9]

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[@redfather5342]

To be fair most criminals would not attack the cops ether its bad for business

[@LuminousWhispers11]

@@redfather5342 Yeah, that didn't exactly raise any red flags to me. If anything it was the safe and easier option. Raiding a police station would not be good for business long term.

[@samagonic263]

Nobody: Troy: "What is up my Brothers, would you like to smoke a reefer?

[@GRH_Roadhouse]

If that yee yee ass haircut isn't a give away then I don't know what is Roadhouse

[@hidan407]

Nigggggaaaaa 🎶

[@godsendmetopissyouoff7834]

Like the Fast the furious 🤣

[@zomboids2100]

@@hidan407 *WHAT?*

[@protothehedgehog8]

@@zomboids2100 So... Over your head huh? lol

[@daunteescalera282]

@@protothehedgehog8 So... Over your head huh? lol

[@stupidhead_2812]

Troy not wanting the player to die because Julius setting off the bomb wasn't his plan was honestly an amazing story decision. I miss the good story from the second game

[@BananaHace]

In the manual to saints row 1, it's written by an undercover cop that might just be in the saints. And if you look at the Carnales rundown, it's written as "The Los Carnales" (but with "The" scratched out). Now, who else makes that mistake?

[@bcampbell12095]

I was hoping someone would bring up the manual, that was such a cool addition. God I miss game manuals, they were such a part of the experience and now they're just slips of paper with seizure warnings

[@wolfmanhcc]

I do sometimes.

[@maskatron9788]

Holy shit, I grabbed my game manual and look at that. You're right. God I miss these old manuals

[@LixTetrix]

I haven’t read it in a long time but I remember the manual making a reference to the cop smoking a cigarette or something. I remember that being how I called it before I beat the game

[@864fanta9]

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[@ThatGuySarabia]

Damn I didn't know Joey Leone changed his name to Troy Bradshaw, moved to Stilwater and worked for the Saints until he becomes an undercover cop.

[@Lizzoncker]

wrong he went to the sints while he was undercover cop

[@864fanta9]

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[@crimsoncryptid]

Gat: Yo Julius why you bring the busta here Julius: cuz the busta kept me out of handcuffs the busta brought me back

[@yagirlrae7690]

The Fast and Furious. That's when the movie series was good

[@crimsoncryptid]

@@yagirlrae7690 agreed FF1 my fav out of all

[@Kyur.]

"He didn't just run back to the fort!"

[@TheHardcoreGamer1]

@Oh Ta They meant the first few movies and not the entire series as a whole

[@crimsoncryptid]

@@TheHardcoreGamer1 I’m personally a fan of the 1st 1

[@angelparrilla2068]

Probably the fact he called it a "tip" instead of calling it anything else, was the biggest give away of him being a cop.

[@scenczyk1429]

The voice acting in this game is genuinely really good

[@TheHufflepuffSaint]

It's strange that Troy is actually less hateable when you know that he still sides with The Saints in Saints Row 2 as a homie and helps them out during the Saints/Ultor rise to stardom prior to Saints Row The Third. As for Dex, grrr. While I'm glad they gave us mini revenge in Gat Out Of Hell, I'd love it if they let us take revenge on Dex on an Earthly plane. At least Julius turned up to accept his death with dignity in Saints Row 2.

[@bigboom2438]

Lmao calling it a "mini" revenge is giving it too much credit. Literally all they did was take an already textured NPC and slap a hat that looks like dex's on it. Thats it. It was so disappointing. Revenge that leaves you unsatisfied afterwards is not revenge.

[@TheHufflepuffSaint]

@Todes zauberer778 I was mostly referring to the fact that when The Boss shoots Julius against that column in that Greek Theatre. I found that he just retired to his fate. While he did try to explain away his actions, he didn't try anything rash like rush at the Boss or try and grab their gun. That's kinda what I meant by dying with dignity. Suppose it's poetic considering he was once a Vice King.

[@TheHufflepuffSaint]

@@bigboom2438 Agreed. I did find that kind of a cop out. Just having one of the generic ghoals with a purple headband and a couple of voicelines is definitely frustrating. It's kinda why I'm hoping in Saints Row 5 when Earth comes back we can finally get revenge on Dex in the flesh. Furthermore, I can't remember it well but I'm sure that in one of the Insurance Fraud tasks in Gat Out Of Hell, you actually play as Troy's Ghoal and yet they didn't give him any distinctive features like Dex's headband or even voicelines. Only way I knew it was Troy was because of Jane Austen's narration (which I found rather distracting at times it has to be said. I wouldn't mind if she was a homie that fights but all she does is prattle on. I'm hoping she doesn't return in Saints Row 5 and is killed off before The Saints travel back in time.)

[@xXLoneLoboXx]

Wasn’t there a canceled Saints row game called money shot or something where you kill Dex as an assassin? Shame it was canceled... Sounded neat.

[@TheHufflepuffSaint]

@@xXLoneLoboXx If I remember correctly, yeah, that's right. If it wasn't cancelled; You'd play as a female Ultor Corporate Assassin. It seems that even Ultor didn't want Dex around. But I suppose if Money Shot was based after Saints Row 2; it would make even more sense for Ultor to turn against Dex as The Saints took over the corporation. Must admit though, The Money Shot Armour, Hover Bike and Sniper Rifle were great in Saints Row The Third. They should've had Dex involved with the Syndicate, would've been really satisfying to kill him if they had done that in my opinion.

[@nikolasferreira3247]

There was alot of foreshadowing about troy beign a cop, but there's nothing foreshadowing julius and dex betrayal. I'm happy with the direction that the series took but their betrayal didn't make sense imo

[@Merlaut715]

I think Julius' did, but Dex had no legit reason to betray the Playa.

[@TeddyB-vr1in]

Originally Julius’ betrayal wasn’t supposed to be in the game. When I played I barely payed attention to Dex.

[@nikolasferreira3247]

@@Merlaut715 julius didn't have any reason to betray you, hell he was proud of you at the end of the game, and not in one moment in the game julius told us that he wanted to clean the city and reduce crimes, he wanted to take over stilwater

[@KahinAhmed72]

@@nikolasferreira3247 Then why did Julius try to kill the Playa?

[@bigboibraden9900]

@@KahinAhmed72 the animators got lazy and decided to edit Julius walking away from the boat instead of running down an alley way dripping with blood

[@BlastGamer77]

There's another small bit of foreshadowing that's pretty cool. Only two members of the Saints are seen regularly smoking; Lin, who's undercover in another gang... and Troy, who's undercover in yours.

[@DB-bq6zc]

SR1 fact: 1. Stores close at night in game 2. Your vehicle in a race has a class. Other vehicles will generate the same class of vehicles just different vehicles that are in that class. 3. Julius and Benjamin King are long Time friends 4. The first cutscene in SR1 happened in Harrowgate district. 5. Los Carnales were founded in the 1800's making them the oldest varifed gang in Saints Row.

[@nikolasimonovic7486]

Thanks for informing me

[@DrMonkey98]

Those are some nice fun facts 👌

[@iHawke]

I'll have to "varify" these facts

[@TheRealRusDaddy]

@BustBoy333 its a self insert for the liberal arts college kid codders they have working(woking more like) on the game

[@TownBiness97]

Los Carnales also means "The Brotherhood" in Spanish and that's why the Brotherhood wears res in sr2

[@Gunshow0]

Should have continued the series with the style and story of 1/2 - they absolutely fucked the entire game like it was some kind of joke after that.

[@VvVLuffyM2]

Games weren't selling good as gta clones so they had to change it up to escape that stigma and it worked cause 3 sold better.

[@fredster594]

@@VvVLuffyM2 The only reason SR3 sold better was because of it's marketing and success of SR2. SR3's success had nothing to do with the change of style.

[@VvVLuffyM2]

@@fredster594 ill give you marketing. SR3 had great ads. Dont even think I ever saw one for 2

[@Courier_Seven]

I sometimes feel they took a dive on purpose since I genuinely believed the saint had the potential to push gta out of the way after 2. Then they made it intentionally gimmicky and dumb.

[@spooditt6968]

@@VvVLuffyM2 not a gta clone

[@ManicallyMetal]

This game needs a HD full remaster

[@xXSilentAgent47Xx]

Not really. Far more broken than 2nd game and it's much more brighter on X360 version (just like GTA VCS on PSP). On XOX and XSX is silver-ish like many of games. It'd most likely be a port if Deep Silver hires Double Eleven to release X360 on modern consoles, fix the bugs, optimize the quality and give 60 fps with having all DLC's in (unless that's lost like how Volition magically lost the PC codes making it better than before in patch with never releasing that in public). They did excellent job unlike Lazystar who couldn't even do it with RDR telling it's far more complicated & broken.

[@saintakins187]

Most people would be mad at Troy Bradshaw for being a undercover straight cop, to be honest his heart was in the right place for as loyalty. Unlike Dexter "Dex" Jackson who quickly switched up on the 3rd Street Saints along with Julius Little. Proof that Troy Bradshaw is loyal to the saints, complete all rounds of the prison fight club activity. Even the Stilwater prison guard mentions that Troy Bradshaw will erase your original customizable protagonist's criminal records after helping execute Death Row inmates. So far he's a man of his word.

[@karanvir6149]

This game was so fucking sophisticated and clever for a 6 year old like me to had been playing

[@donjezza10]

I think Troy being an undercover cop was actually what made him such a good counselor to Julius. Julius wanting to work with the Columbians made no real sense, and Troy seemed to be the only one who noticed that. Maybe Julius was losing sight of his original goal because of how the rest of the gang and his time with Ben King had influenced him. And when he was arrested, talking with Troy made him realise how badly he had screwed over his own goals, and that's what drove him to blow up the Player and the Mayor. He didn't care about saving the city anymore, he just wanted to burn away his mistakes out of shame. What a fucker. Troy even managed to have pardons prepared for the gang. So he must've convinced the authorities that the gang actually had good intentions; even if he, the traitor, was the only one that actually had those good intentions. So ironically, the only person that really suited the goals the gang had was an actual enemy spy, and not even the gang's own fucking leader.

[@thundercockjackson]

great analysis, but unfortunately this is the internet and i'm legally obligated to disagree, even if i actually agree

[@JThom529]

Don’t kid yourself, the player wasn’t innocent in this

[@BIBeast291]

You forgot the Rollerz mission where he talks about Lin going undercover. "You roll with people long enough and pretty soon you start thinkin' like 'em."

[@Machete87]

Troy literally loses his shit when Julius planted a bomb on Hughes' yacht just nearly killing the main character. Julius knew the protagonist wasn't going 2 drop his color's so i would assume that was Julius best course of action that later be a fatal mistake in error.

[@doctorawesomeness6922]

It's very weird that the series went from street gangs to aliens.

[@memeaids445]

That's what we call jumping the shark, my friend.

[@cerberus144]

They went big to differentiate themselves from GTA and gloriously overcorrected

[@KH0LRA]

I had only been testing the waters to see if trying the sequels were still worth it after finishing the sequel and I saw it too; They jumped a whole goddamn fucking beluga with the other half of the franchise 💀 I couldn't blame Volition though for possibly being pressured to change since its general consensus was that it was a GTA Ripoff which I personally think is total bullshit. That is coming from a big fan of that series. On the other hand though, I wish they could have kept some integrity to the source material for their future installments. Sucks too that now even GTA themselves has been jumping that crazy shark as well 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@akhonankosi4704]

Thank the logic of "GTA clone"

[@tfp3163]

In the game manual (back when they made those lol) the dev team was creative in explaining the mechanics of the game and the notes on the characters in the format of an undercover cop being interviewed without ever revealing his identity. It got kinda deep how the cop seemed ashamed of some of the things he had to do to earn trust among the gangs. I had my suspicions that it was Troy throughout the game and enjoyed seeing them confirmed when they showed him looking at his badge in the end.

[@TheIcelandicBoy]

It has actually always annoyed me how Troy was pushed more to the side in SR2, not a lot of focus put on him. Always felt there was lot of potential with him in it that they never used. And then he was pushed off completely in SR3.

[@Cosmic76Guardian]

I love how your SR1 playa looks exactly the one from the early trailers of Saints Row 1, wearing green before GTA SA was announced. 😅

[@herschelschueler]

Always asking Dex questions. That alone surprises me how they never made him for what he was.

[@AlvosElRey]

Dex knew

[@herschelschueler]

@@AlvosElRey by chance the others didn't that's what I'm saying. Dex is the worst of them all.

[@AlvosElRey]

@@herschelschueler that's because dex is a sellout.

[@herschelschueler]

@@AlvosElRey no shit.

[@KahinAhmed72]

@@AlvosElRey Dex ain’t a sellout, he’s just smart He left the gang before he got injured/killed

[@chibi_jojo9000]

Julius ain't wearing a watch because Volition got high off booger sugar

[@thesmolbean488]

“Shit Troy, what’s with all the questions? Why can’t you be like my man over here?” The man: 🗿

[@JohnFortniteKennedy_]

He got the lightskin stare

[@DANtheMANofSIPA]

The biggest reason is that he's based on Paul Walker's character from Fast & Furious

[@guccik805]

There’s too many reasons too count that Troys a cop

[@KikBlava]

0:55 Rank amateur mistake of him suggesting police tactics. Such a giveaway if it was anyone other than Dex listening.

[@kanden27]

When I was a kid. This went over my head. Even with the badge reveal. I thought because the Saints ruled the city, he became a police officer on the inside for the Saints.

[@yurlie824]

3:05 "RAMIREZ, LAST MAG, MAKE IT COUNT!"

[@Beau.Official]

One of the prostitute NPCs in free roam asked the player, "Why was Dex hanging around that Cop?". Unless Dex was talking to a different cop then its most likely Troy. What I like about this game is that it has alot of details and story behind its characters. Some of the random NPCs have stories behind them as well.

[@lachlanharvey4965]

In one of the Carnales missions when Troy is hot wiring that truck he wants to know so much about, during the shoot out he says "I should've payed more attention when they were teaching hot wiring" and I always thought that was pretty shifty and BOOM he's a cop haha

[@HinduSpartan]

Michael Duncan and Keith David were the finishing touches to the fun gameplay and interesting plot that made this game a fun sundae

[@ShadowMark3_]

The only loose end I wanna know is why Gat tried to kill Troy in SR2.

[@TannerThePuppyGamer]

cause i think he felt betrayed by troy

[@KahinAhmed72]

@@TannerThePuppyGamer Still, weren’t they friends? If I was a thug and one of my homies was low key an undercover cop and he didn’t rat me out. I ain’t killing him. I would go to jail if I tried to. Johnny ain’t so smart.

[@TannerThePuppyGamer]

@@KahinAhmed72 then i'm open to hear why he did it

[@baptisedindirtysprite3593]

@@KahinAhmed72 not everyone is you

[@drenchvision4325]

@@KahinAhmed72 “if I was a thug.” Is exactly it. You’re not. Johnny was.

[@b.x8429]

His skin color, hair cut and the fact he smokes more then a chimney didn't give it away, then the questions for sure did

[@haloninjax542]

Yeah I've totally never seen a non white cop. The chain smoking you got me on though

[@Tee-jayBrann]

Great saint row video of showing all the signals signs motivates stagety show how troy was cop undercover

[@alenmack3471]

Saints Row 1’s models look way smoother and better than 2’s and the game actually rewards you for doing the hitmen activities with OP weapons and not just a homie, money, and respect. You even get zoot suit pants with suspenders!

[@taijutsugod2666]

Sad thing is, at the time saints row released it was constantly getting bashed for being a gta ripoff but if the creators of saints row had kept their original vision of a gangster/drama game then I have no doubt that they’d be ahead of the competition. It’s sad that they got labeled a gta clone and decided to go off the wayside

[@kolbyquayle9920]

Man the story to these games used to be so good. It was perfectly grounded and by sr2 they had found their semi comedic niche to compete with gta and the devs just completely destroyed it and made it a meaningless madhouse

[@jodecijoestar8452]

Troy *badge falls out of pocket* "whoops I dropped my monster badge for my magnum sense of justice"

[@DizzyK1D]

Im watching this after seeing the new saints row trailer and i cannot possibly comprehend how the series went from this brilliantly written masterpiece to something unrecognisable. The writing for these earlier games were way ahead of there time. From showing the true reality of gang life. From Troy uncovered to be an informant to the player being literally set up by julius which was the darkest plot twist ever. The character development is 11/10. I cant comprehend why they are trying so hard to stray away from such a masterpiece of a series!. RIP Saints Row

[@Danganraptor]

The new game does look somewhat recognisable. Here's to hoping it's more like 1 and 2.

[@grabble7605]

They're not trying to stray from anything. The hell are you on about

[@DizzyK1D]

@@grabble7605 You are on crack then Grabble because they have literally pointed out in interviews that they are straying away from 1 and 2 so stfu smartass

[@grabble7605]

@@DizzyK1D Oh yeah? What did they say?

[@madgoomba2509]

I love troys voice actor

[@TheGodofEva]

Ma! There's a weird fuckin' stray cat outside! It looks like grandma, the fuckin' thing!

[@madgoomba2509]

@@TheGodofEva 😂😂

[@shawnexotics7828]

Troy gives you so many hints that he was a cop and no one took it into consideration

[@saintakins187]

The only reason why Troy Bradshaw keeps asking about the specific details of Dexter "Dex" Jackson's plan of taking a delivery truck, it's not because he's a undercover straight good cop it's mostly because he doesn't want to go in blind not knowing the mission at hand. "Keep it simple & straightforward." "Details they are important."

[@jaredsheldon3496]

His haircut really gave it away lol

[@xevce]

0:10 *DAFUQ U SAY???*

[@lapislarka]

My favorite was when he was talking about how he didn't like Lin going undercover. He said the longer you you hung around with people, the more you started to think like them (almost as if he had some experience).

[@VacadoRay]

1:10 troy makes me think of paul walker in the earlier Fast furious movies

[@Scrappy_ill_fold_ya_Doo]

They killed this series.

[@janp6019]

Troy looks kind of Like Paul Walker in the First Fast and Furious...

[@DAGIEBOB]

The character development for King always astounds me

[@dj-chemicalz811]

I honestly think the most suspect thing was him constantly asking about the truck. You'd think someone would normally go 'alright' and not question it or maybe ask once then after getting shot down drop it but he was adamant about knowing what the truck was going to be used for. It just kind of rubs you the wrong way because he's so adamant about it for no particular reason

[@КарбованеСрібло]

Bruh, this game looks better than the remake

[@saint-]

*Reboot

[@charlymundo1439]

Saint's Row 1 and 2 had a very good story, sad that they changed everything in the third

[@shinjimonroe]

same

[@Super_Broly]

Man, what a voice from Mike Clarke Duncan

[@chrisrichfield8906]

Hes like an even more badass sounding version of Marsellus Wallace from Pulp Fiction.

[@derpco.69420]

0:47 those be some lego hands

[@eastsiderage5532]

- Asked too many questions - Always knew something no one else did - Was always paranoid - He cares too damn much - Didn't want anything to do with the Vice Kings - Didn't want cops or people getting hurt I should've know that Troy was a Narc way before I beat SR1.

[@MasterKieff]

Saints rows went from this to aliens and super powers

[@saint-]

Sadly

[@djrosette]

I loved the superpowers but then too I love almost any game where can make my character superhuman 😅

[@Thallmador]

I wish people played the first 2 SR more. It’s mad fun

[@AronProd]

love the way you dressed the playa as he was in the first SR trailer back when the saints were rocking green as the gang color.

[@Milkster86]

As somebody who has never played saints row 1, or 3, this was never a twists for obvious reasons but you could imagine how confused child me was with all the references to the first game that I didn't know about.

[@Milkster86]

@@saint- I would love to but I don't have an Xbox.

[@ChxmicaLGasai]

That scene hurt me on an emotional level

[@user-bw8gn7fc2q]

you should’ve added where he mentions hot wiring in the truck mission

[@iim4xii129]

This... THIS is the REAL Saints Row. Fuck that alien shit.

[@PassanCat]

The more I watch from SR1 the better it gets. Could it be one of the best written of all times? Just going through Dex and Troy is already a handful. Every single character is interesting.

[@smoke3dR]

I love the fact that hes a clear reference to Brian o Conner from The Fast and the Furious 1-7

[@yagirlrae7690]

What I want so bad for SR5 is to go back in time to the first game to where everyone is there and we warn the playa about what happens and not to trust Dex, Troy and Julius and save Lin. Then we see what happens in the future

[@Z4N3]

Ngl, that's straight up trash

[@yagirlrae7690]

@@Z4N3 mind telling me why?

[@smillphy4756]

@@yagirlrae7690 maybe because it's so predictable and cliche but that's just my opinion. I would've preferred a SR 3 reboot

[@cali115]

I want two games. The first one is a prequel to Saints Row One about Benjamin King and Julius. The second one is a reboot of Saints Row Three where you travel to a new city and take down Dex.

[@smillphy4756]

@@cali115 now that shit sounds decent, avenging someone who betrays you is still cliche but it's still cooler than the overused time travel shenanigans

[@reqliity4466]

It’s funny how dex says “why can’t you be like my man here” since you have like 6 voice cues

[@JamesBond-t]

They need to go back to how stories was like this

[@birddoug8297]

David Keith, Michael Clarke Duncan, and Michael Rapport on VA. This game is supper goated.

[@saint-]

Can’t forget Daniel Dae Kim

[@Whatacomedian_]

Ahhh sweet sweet Michael Clark Duncan vocals. Miss that guy.

[@xXSilentAgent47Xx]

It's obvious from the start when you hear Michael Rapaport's voice he is definitely an undercover cop in the game. He played many roles as a cop in the movies and the shows.

[@saint-]

I’ve only ever seen him in Prison Break, I think he played an FBI agent or something.

[@JesusOnTheOnesAndTwos]

The voice acting in saints row was so good

[@KikiAries23]

His saying, "I should have paid more attention in hotwiring class."

[@alyunganxietygamingchannel29]

None of the other saints Johnny,Dex Julius,Lin never noticed Troy asking to many questions. it's like your trying to get caught.

[@lesgrossman6332]

“I’m jonesing for a fun day” that’s some weird dialog😂

[@3DKing200]

They were going to Freckle Bitches and I’m pretty sure he said “Fun Bag”. I figured it must be an item on the menu.

[@Jacket430]

Literally just completed Saints Row for the first time last night so the release of this video was a really really strange coincidence.

[@firemario8126]

This is one point than i love in some games, when you replay some games a second time, you notice much better hidden details from the story.