Why Ultra Instinct makes NO SENSE

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[@SaiyanScholar]

What is Goku's TRULY PERFECTED MASTERED FINAL Ultra Instinct? Thanks for watching! If you enjoyed the video, hit the Like and Subscribe... and turn on those notifications! All Super Thanks donations welcome or to my Patreon so KZbin doesn't take any of it www.Patreon.com/ScholarVerse

[@arifurmollah4386]

It is a cashgrab to sell more toys. Lets bring back OG great ape!!!

[@jayzdawg3111]

Final version of UI should be the same as how Whis uses it, as a basic skill used just in base form.

[@TruBaus210]

The technique of the "gods" that none of them can use lol

[@korn20293]

beerus is only god that has use ultra instinct but he not on same level as goku with it

[@ahren7741]

The angels use it and they have god energy

[@JackRippa-bq9qo]

Yeah lol the "technique of the gods" "dO yoU rEAlly tHINk Us gOds oF dEStRUCTion wilL KeEp Our heArt cAlm. wE onLY FocUS oN DEstRucTIoN "

[@legendarytronic7774]

@@JackRippa-bq9qo it's more like technique of the angels that even Gods of Destruction's themselves struggle to master.

[@crispychicken471]

@@legendarytronic7774but gohan getting mad can rival it 😂😂😂

[@ericks5130]

Stop with the red arrow and circle. It repels me

[@JosephShemelewski]

It's fun I like making some BS story based on them

[@ryszakowy]

hey, hey goku, to master ultra instinct you have to let your body move on it's own without thinking SOMETHING HE LEARNED AS A KID BUT OK goku: masters ultra instinct but later masters mastered ultra instinct and later masters the mastered limited edition mega alpha omega bigger longer and uncut ultra super instinctive ultra instinct

[@streptococo4735]

Whiss be like: you still have a lot to learn, even tho at this point YOU know way more than me in terms of fighting since i was born a broken angel GOD.

[@jwoncollier4412]

Something about the red god aura it just hits different he looks more intimated than blue

[@nevadalotto560]

Not really he looks more cooler than blue because I ain't gonna lie when he transformed into ssb against ikari broly that ssb looked a lot more menacing

[@alatus_knight]

No. He looks calmer

[@xxneroxxx4996]

The aura of SSG is more animated there is alot more going on with that aura. SSB aura is just in outline in most scenes with almost nothing going on. Both of the comments above are wrong every once in a while Blue looks as animated as God but most of the time it simply doesn't

[@oursavior9339]

I love super saiyan God

[@NathanielPiscian]

It’s the blue hair that kills it for me

[@ElMalito187]

Fun fact: Toyotaro aka Toyble was the one who proposed the idea of a new transformation after Akira Toriyama brought SSG into the mix. Before being hired by Toei, Toyotaro as Toyble was writing and drawing his own line of DBAF fan manga. Which is a direct continuation of DBGT, Goku had attained a new form in the Dragon Realm. A new form that dwarfed Full Power SSJ4 and even surpasses SSJ4 Gogeta by leagues above. However in order to attain SSJ5 one has to completely empty himself and have full control of their emotions otherwise the power of SSJ5 would literally crush and explode the wielder of such tremendous power which coincidently mirrors Ultra Instinct. Fun fact: Toyotaro aka Toyble ran with the whole mantra of SSJ5 because of that infamous SSJ5 fan art by David Montiel Franco, who came out years later to say that's not Goku. His name is Tablos, a random unknown saiyan who miraculously survived the destruction of planet Vegeta. Who vigorously trained to attain a power that would surpass all known gods without God Ki. 🤔 Hmmm sounds like the archetype to Jiren as well, a being that's stronger than his God of Destruction Belmont. So yeah, absolute legend Toyotaro and David Montiel Franco. Edit: So yeah. The fandom had a God form before it was even a thing and in the mind of Akira Toriyama. Edit: So in essence Toyotaro and Akira Toriyama took notes from DBGT and DBAF and adapted to DBS. Edit: Toyotaro is the one who drew and brought into existence the Gods of Destruction. For example Lord Lood served as the inspiration for the God of Destruction Mosco. Funny enough Lord Lood is referred as a God of Destruction. Cheers 🍻

[@toragon2736]

You are one who's giving the most truth and information and I think barely anyone read it

[@ElMalito187]

​@toragon2736 Much appreciated for the comment. And the only thing I could is "to each is their own". Cheers 🍻

[@computernerd8157]

Lesson of the story, do not make fan work, instead create your own thing.

[@lwandomadikizela2213]

Dragon Ball Z: Goku has Super Saiyan 3 as his most powerful form. Dragon Ball Super: Goku has Autonomous Ultra Instinct as his most powerful form. Dragon Ball GT: Goku has Super Saiyan 4 as his most powerful form and my personal favourite transformation. The problem in modern Dragon Ball is when every fighter achieves their new found power the writers don't know how to book it and give credible feats. Also pulling draw backs out of thin air while not having the narrative setup on why some forms are useless. Super Saiyan 3 was powerful but it had a nasty draw back of draining energy and stamina fast just to use and maintain it.

[@user-rb7vz8yf3z]

That's right and also why don't the writers give a clear effectiveness of each form over different opponents rather than overshadowing with new transformations 🤔

[@Firemarioflower]

Suppah should've never been created. It's a bigger parody of Z than TFS is. It's worse than Evolution even.

[@raditztherunt9288]

UI is in a nutshell what is wrong with super. Old ideas presented as new ones, e.g. mr popo taught this to goku on the lookout, to move without thinking. But with tbe bonus of a higher power boost than any other transfprmation, which also makes no sense and has no desire to explain that. Its a shame that people swallow this nonsense and think its clever

[@computernerd8157]

Well, I like whis as a character more then Mr Popo. Dragan Ball is the best and all the rest changed the cannon. Frezia Saga gave Vegeta the ability to sense power levels because Goku could but in the original story, Goku earned that ability from Kami's quest. As early as the Frezia Saga, Dragon Ball Z was not being faithful to its own lore. Saying all this, I still like Dragon Ball Z but not nearly as much as other Anime's and Manga's.

[@kaienglish271]

But it’s not the same thing Popo taught on the look out idk where u lot get this from. All of Popos training is about sensing literally all Popo taught about sensing nothing about severing link between consciousness and body. There is a big shift from OG to Z in how Goku fights. Og he focuses on becoming a better martial artist. As soon as he learned Kaioken and onwards he focuses on Raw power nothing else Super brings back a deeper aspect of what he used in Og

[@GonKillua85]

@@kaienglish271 Nah Super 98% focuses on power. He unlocks Super Saiyan God through a damn ritual rather than any sort of real martial arts training. Ultra Instinct is like the ONLY thing that has to do with pure martial arts that Z doesn't have. Every other concept, like mastering Ki control to perfect a transformation, etc....was done in Z. Also, Mr. Popo was literally talking about a concept behind Ultra Instinct. Mr. Popo says: "Turn your mind to nothing." He's telling Goku not to use his mind, but his instinctual senses. Btw, Ultra Instinct isnt just Goku's limbs making their own decisions. His limbs move instinctually in response to a stimulus, and that comes from decades of fighting. Signals from that stimulus dont need to be sent all the way to the brain through the nervous system anymore, because the body is simply repeating what it did in the past in response to that stimulus.

[@kaienglish271]

@@GonKillua85 Super is definitely not 98% focused on power😂 if anything it’s way more about utilizing your power properly. They even say in the manga using power how they did in Z is just not correct. God Ki all about maintaining your Aura inside your body to fight better , Frieza does imagine training to improve his control , Jiren is all about using his ki efficiently , the concept of spirit control . Mastering ki control was not in Z especially ur talking about the Goku vs Ginyu force fight. Goku relearning previous lessons on a bigger scale is perfectly fine because as soon as he learns more about his heritage in Z he slowly abandons what he learns in OG even Roshi called him out on it.

[@streptococo4735]

The fact that somehow in Super there is the narrative that Goku STILL needs to learn FUNDA-FUCKING-MENTALS is insane. This is a dude who has trained since he was a 4 yr old. His entire life, friends, family, purpose in life has been ALL about fighting. And HE DOESN'T REMEMBER THE FUNDAMENTALS?!?!?!?!?! Goku has schrodinger OP power. He simultaneously is and IS NOT the most powerful, he is and is NOT a Master. He is whatever the writters demands he is.

[@OnlySayori]

i mean, sometimes a master has to relearn funamentals, more believable then alot of the bs that has happened

[@masonwilson7910]

They’re waaay too many transformations at this point

[@PaoloMiller-ow3vf]

Yeah wouldn’t be surprised if we got a super Saipan rainbow bruh

[@masonwilson7910]

@@PaoloMiller-ow3vf agreed 😂😂😂😂

[@OnlySayori]

i mean, after ssj3 it was too much

[@eslwgpg1226]

Thing I find funny about ultra instinct is that it’s main selling point is that it allows the user’s body to react without thinking and people act like that is 100% a good thing. I don’t think a lot of people realize how much of a double edged sword that idea really is. Yes it allows for faster movement and reaction time, however, reacting without thinking opens you up to a greater possibility of making mistakes that you might otherwise not have if your brain was involved in the process. It’s why thinking is a crucial skill to have and operating on pure instinct 100% of the time is generally not a very good idea

[@enma8441]

It makes no sense for it to be a form. But i remember seeing it back in Ginyu force vs Goku when hes dodging effortlessly😂😂 UI is basically just flexing on a weaker opponent

[@PURPLE_G0J0]

What’s always bugged me is that ultra instinct was always supposed to be just a technique that everyone can learn, not a transformation. It being Goku specific really annoys me because it’s not supposed to be its own branch of power, it’s supposed to be a supplemental technique that overall benefits Goku just like the concept of Ki control. So Goku stacking it onto his other forms makes perfect sense, the way it should’ve always been instead of its own transformation.

[@alexfraser8352]

The arrow and circle are in different places this time wow

[@ZangetsuGetsuga7]

My Favorite Dragon Ball KZbinr of American KZbin , Awesome Content

[@gilbertodepiento8521]

Him and Geekdom101

[@PitouYT]

Bro keeps blowing my mind with these💀💀💀

[@joncolunga673]

It makes no sense because Goku and all the other fighters in the series have been using their instincts to dodge attacks for the entire series...but it didn't always matter, because if the opponent was faster than you, you would still get hit. So Ultra instinct is just Goku being faster than his opponents and dodging them? Like idk...Super is like bad fan fiction written by 12 year olds

[@modest_timing45]

Supers' forms hold less weight than the Red Riddon army against Beerus.

[@kcmdre]

Ultra instinct isn’t a transformation though it’s a technique

[@brad377]

Blud expected goku to beat someone who wished to be the strongest on the universe without his strongest form I can't 🤦

[@JarlQboyq]

The transformations need some special perk to outset the others. Some forms can be better for the most part but some extra thing should be useful for situations. Example ssj2 has lightning so it's the fastest form. Ssj1 is some ki blast Amp and ssj3 is super strength, god is the weakest form but let's him breath and fight in space (idk)

[@kaienglish271]

Where u getting this stuff from ?

[@OnlySayori]

the transformations DONT need a damn special perk, they never had one at ALL, at most the forms always had weaknesses that they learned how to overcome, like how goku and gohan learned how to master ssj1 to bring all of its power out and to minimize the drain, it wouldent make any sense to make them have any perks

[@kaienglish271]

@@OnlySayori so you don’t want different forms to have different abilities ?

[@doupnetwork]

Even early SSJ had its flaws which is why Vegeta and Trunks got washed by the androids in their first fight. But Goku's Mastered SSJ could at least give Perfect Cell a decent fight. There has always been levels and a need to master these power ups

[@OnlySayori]

yep, nothing has changed with the forms and how they worked, just the fans wanting to actually damn try to enjoy anything, EVERY form had a drawback that they learned how to overcome and master it to use it to their full potential

[@Godzilla-tu2cd]

Now we need a video on ultra ego

[@Oromanowarful]

Why not just combine ui with the kaioken at this point, the ui allows calm detachment while kaioken could theoretically boost power to however many multipliers goku wants.

[@jakepearson1254]

And they’re both “godly technics”

[@kaienglish271]

Those are two techniques that would completely work against each other

[@cj19122]

That super dragonball heroes episode with mui goku vs. Ss4 limit breaker goku was complete bs. Leave it to the "Super" animation team to declare MUI is better that SS4. Pure Disrespectful.

[@alexfraser8352]

At least we can still say ss4 limit breaker is the strongest super saiyan form

[@cj19122]

​@@alexfraser8352 you damn right, i approve this response ✅️💪🏾👍🏾

[@ac2raw]

Why would ss4 ever be stronger than god ki angel abilities 😂😂😂 yall gt fans gotta stop

[@blazechicken6822]

@@ac2raw Considering in the tournament that Jiren was stated to be stronger than his god without even using any god ki and how expressed in this video that angel abilities are useless if you don't have the stamina to back it. Besides, if going by comparative power Omega Shenron is likely far above any power Beerus has displayed so far.

[@ac2raw]

@@blazechicken6822 although those are valid points and ill even give you another one with beast gohan but we’ve already seen this fight from the dragon ball franchise so it’s still weird people like to argue about it

[@edikanessien8602]

let's hope Daima doesn't make that same mistake since Daima is the last dragon ball canon according to Toriyama

[@dwightnorton3398]

Super understanding

[@dezirodriguez1770]

You’re too funny. I love your humor.🤣🤣🤣

[@ImpulseTT7]

Somebody tell me where can I watch THIS MORO ARC, I'm tired of seeing it but no indication on where to find it is it not animated yet?

[@kawaraianimeslayer4710]

Video idea: The god ki problem

[@alexfraser8352]

YES it went from OP AF to completely meaningless and

[@kawaraianimeslayer4710]

@@alexfraser8352 redundant

[@aayewhyy]

It’s trash 🚮

[@jayzdawg3111]

God ki just changes the hair and aura from white to red and gold to blue.

[@georgemeller4074]

Ultra Instinct is just "New Flavor Kaio-Ken." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ In theory, it does pretty much the same thing, in practice, only with a different explanation of the how and why.

[@pralenkaman8105]

I think after the super sayan transformations, once ssg was introduced, every form should've aimed for a niche, ultra instict can be the speed form while not doing as much damage, ssg could be the damage form forgoing speed, ssgss could be a temporary amp, like fusion, only requires the user so it's more versatile, but like fusion it has a short time limit, after like 30 minutes the user reverts to regular ssg Stuff like this would make the absoulutely ridiculous amount of transformations in super actually make sense and not just be an obvious way to sell more merch

[@OnlySayori]

dragon ball was never like this to begin with, all forms went with more and more damage and multipliers more than niche's, ssj1 and 2 where mastered to where they can be used freely, hell ssj1 was able to be used as easily as there damn BASE, ssj2 was also mastered and used freely, with ssj3 being the only risky form

[@pralenkaman8105]

@@OnlySayori yeah, but that was when all we had in terms of amps were super saiyan, we can kinda see it back then with kaioken I guess, but right now why would goku or vegeta use ssg when ssb is just better, why would goku use ssb when UI is just better, why would vegeta use ssb if ultra ego is just better It would make sense now because the forms tap into different powers, ssg taps into god ki, ssb mixes saiyan powers with god ki, UI, from what I understand, is a technique used by the angels and ultra ego is a technique used by the gods of destruction One thing I never understood is why ssb is easier to use, I know lore wise it's because saiyan power make god ki easier to handle and maintain for longer duration, but in my opinion it would've been way more interesting if it was the other way around, using saiyan powers makes you much stronger in god form, but at the cost of stamina consumption, kinda like ss3, a much stronger form that goku couldn't maintain for long due to it's stamina consumption, that would make standard ssg relevant for much longer in the story and ssb a good crutch for goku and vegeta to rely on if they are struggling against an enemy, the ssb evolution and ssb kaioken could still be a thing as goku and vegeta learn to maintain ssb for longer periods, basically, more stamina = opportunity to mix more powers and make the strong stronger at the cost of more stamina, rinse and repeat Well, ssg/ssb could be an all rounder, balanced form, then UI and UE get introduced giving new niches for goku and vegeta, UI gives goku godly reflexes and speed and UE gives vegeta a lot more physical power, these could come at a cost, that's why I said goku could sacrifice strenght and vegeta could, for example sacrifice reflexes, it goes along with goku and vegeta's rivalry and them filling out eachother's weaknesses Basically UI and UE don't feel like a direct evolution of ssb, they come from different sources of power, so they could fill other niches, keeping ssb relevant and justifying why goku and vegeta sometimes might use ssb instead of UI or UE, would keep things interesting, since goku and vegeta would need to figure out what form suits best for the situation instead of the fights just being a stat check for them I've been really getting into dragon ball lately and while I like it a lot, something a lot of battle shonens do is introduce a new technique and make it stronger in every way than past techniques with no draw backs, which makes you wonder why characters might use weaker techniques for no reason or what new technique will the hero learn to defeat the new main bad guy. If instead every new technique filled a new niche while being powerful in it's own way, new villains could become more powerful in different aspects, like more resistances, maybe some past resistances from past enemies are mixed in this new enemy and some techniques that worked before don't work now but others do, maybe the new villain is super fast but has close to zero durability, so a lot of speed in sacrifice of offense would be good, so in my example, vegeta would be forced to use ssb as he doesn't have a "speed" form and goku would be the main guy fighting with UI, or maybe the enemy is really slow but packs a mean punch, so a lot of offense and not that much speed is necessary, so vegeta would be our main guy in this situation with UE while goku could help with ssb Making enemies puzzles for the characters to figure out is a sure fire way to make all combat encounters interesting and fresh, some enemies were like this, like cell or frieza with his evolutions, but others were just stat checks for goku and vegeta pushing their limits Now this comment is very long, but if you read it all I hope it clarified my view on things, I know that dragon ball has always been kinda like this, but we could see something similar to ss3 where it couldn't be used very often and it clearly had it's drawbacks, making it so that it couldn't be abused very often, I think introducing that concept back into the series with different advantages for the god forms and ultra forms would be at the very least interesting

[@domicadom8865]

Gohan beasto with ultra instinct🥵

[@MrSa458]

You know that I do think that ssj4 is the goat of anime and ssj God

[@winterburden]

Goku can't be Ultra Instinct. Goku isn't even Goku.

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

What?

[@joeclaridy]

Are you talking about his character regression?

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

@@joeclaridy maybe?

[@stanleech666]

he's Kakarot!

[@xxneroxxx4996]

Yeah goku in dragon ball super as a whole isn't the Goku we've come to know and love from dragon ball dragon ball z and even dragon ball GT. DBS goku is Clownku

[@Jhoodjin]

We still waiting for that blue 3

[@Chrisezo]

I miss the focus being on Techniques, its what I liked about original Dragon Ball, where the martial artists were always on their peaks, and they used their developed techniques to gain the edge, as that was basically their trump cards since in terms of physical power they were mostly equals, and the power of the ozaru transformation was respected since it was rarely ever used since it was too dangerous, and other transformations such as the werewolf guy were treated as jokes, since he was stuck in that form as Master Roshi had destroyed the moon and he was salty about that, but then came Dragon Ball Z with the Namek saga and made transformations the focus, by giving Frieza as many transformations as he wanted, and then giving Goku Super Saiyan and basically making everyone else irrelevant from that point forward.

[@OnlySayori]

ahuh, yeah the same series that had multipliers that depended more on numbers and powerlevels is about actual techniques now? yea no, rewatch dragon ball, there WAS stratedgy, but most of it was just "distract them till goku comes" or something similar to that

[@Glaciola_ice]

And thats why i prefer ssj4 not only does it make thematically more sense, they actually remember saiyan lore the way they incorporated their ape transformation into this making it feel like thats what saiyans ultimate transformation should be a mastered ape form. Also it just looks plane better then recolor number 20. They run out of colors now

[@OnlySayori]

ssj2 is a reskin of ssj1 if you want to be like that, sense ssj2 is just abit more spikier and abit of electric, lssj is just ssj but g r e e n, what im trying to say is that, this is nothing new with recolors, atleast with something like ssjb it makes sense due to it being a combination of a form of your base with god ki and ssj

[@rabbitcorp.103]

Guys his hair has absolutely nothing to do with the video

[@YouTrolol]

super dumb question, but what is this from? mange is black and white, graphic novels are in color, but i can't find any DBS graphic novels. I've only ever watched the shows.

[@BobTheTrollKing]

I swear to god we're going to get Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan God Kaioken Blue Ulra Ego Vegtio at some point. At some point it has so stop meaning anything...

[@OnlySayori]

the forms never ment anything to begin with, they always introduced new forms sense Z and no one complained, now y'all are suddenly, it will stop meaning something when people just stop hate watching the show

[@CatDaddyMane]

What about the Goku vs Gohan sparring match that just happened?

[@totallynormalindividual2982]

UI may not make the most sense ,but it's so cool that it doesn't really matter.

[@nevadalotto560]

Ui makes sense he can dodge things without thinking duh

[@renmojito6796]

it's cool until you realize how lame it is that he should be able to dodge everything which is pretty boring

[@nevadalotto560]

@@renmojito6796 Boring it's very helpful never gotta worry about getting hit ever again

[@renmojito6796]

@@nevadalotto560 useful for him, sure but boring as a concept in a fighting anime

[@nevadalotto560]

@@renmojito6796 Nah look at whis the way how he be dodging and attacking he makes it look cool

[@denizenbyday]

Here’s an Anchorman joke to sum up all DB transformations when they it need to defeat someone. “60% of the time, it’ll work everytime.”

[@Jigolopuff]

UI is the new SS3 it never beats anyone

[@user-iu3wl3lj4r]

Sorry for forgot to watched your video in 1 week Mr Scholar.

[@cody3504]

When you say Super Saiyan God is the strong form it’s technically always been the case Super Saiyan Blue is Super Saiyan God in Super Saiyan form so technically Goku is still Super Saiyan God and he’s figuring out that he’s better off in the original form and not the blue transformation

[@ashy49592]

Do video on what if 16 beat imperfect cell

[@spotify80]

Or Vegeta can negate UI’s strength by using those golden rings to restrict his movements like he did in the Buu saga. He’d have to be in UE do withstand the beating before doing so.

[@LOUGAone]

My biggest problem with UI is the way it was brought up .... I think was the biggest ass pulled plot armor in all DB. Let me explain myself : so Goku can't beat Jiren and throws a genki dama, Jiren sends it back ... Goku is fuccked, he can't send it back , can't dodge ... just take it in the face and .... and there goes nothing. The genki dama has been absorbed .... WWWHHHAAATTTTT ???? Since when is it a thing in dragon ball ? "Oh , take this huge nuke in your face " -> goku absorbs it without any explanation. Goku doesn't understand why, the reader doesn't understand why, even the goddamn autors don't know why !!! So absorbing this huge energy blast would refill his energy , right ?? NO! It just teaches him a new technique based on dodging by reflex, whereas he wasn't even able to dodge it, he took it point blank! NO SENSE A simple and good way to bring UI would have been to see Jiren beating Goku until he"s uncounscious, and when Jiren is about to strike him to kill him, Goku's uncounscious body starts moving by itself and dodges Jiren 's hits, even hitting him back .... as he has a quick internal monologue, Goku would realise that he has been so moften in the heart of crazy fights, that his body is so much trained, that the stakes are so ridiculously high .... that his body is still fighting while he slowly regains counciousness, and starts taming that new power !!!! THIS WOULD BE EPIC

[@UnexpectedWonder]

This was always the sitch of Ultra Instinct though. Fans misunderstood it.

[@spotify80]

UI’s Mentality: Stillness & Accepting the opponent UE’s Mentality: Indulgence & Accepting one’s self

[@aayewhyy]

Ssj4s mentality: beat everyone’s ass

[@Raeodor]

Why did you draw a circle around his hair tho?

[@CameronStewart-oc4de]

The technique itself is perfect.Is goku's poor usage of it? Guess what gives it weaknesses in certain situations?He should listen to whis and learn how to be an instinct state all the time

[@IanRawson83]

Haven't read the manga but UI as it is presented in the anime in concept seems like it should just be a speed increase. Removes the thought process allowing for faster movement and reaction time. But in execution, it was so much more than that, giving Goku a massive ramp that really doesn't make sense. Why would this type of power up or state of mind make Goku hit harder or become more resilient? It wouldn't, doesn't make sense. Yet we see in his fight with Jiren that this is exactly what it does. This makes it seem like a power multiplier similar to but greater than any of his previous transformations. But if that is the case it doesn't make sense that he could stack it on top of another transformation. It would be like stacking SS2 on top of SS1. I love all things dragon ball but for me i feel like they got sloppy with DBS either in how they explained UI or in the effects they showcased it to produce

[@josephbaker9329]

Ok I love the break down of the whole thing... but there is one thing I have an issue with and that's the ui being a state of mind instead of a state of physical being.... it is a state of mind but that state of mind comes with a massive power increase which puts the strain on the body which effects how long you can be in that form... the ss forms are the state of mind of being angry and not a state of being... whis explained that in T.O.P.... so that in mind I'm not sure UI can be combined with the SS forms, it would cause an internal struggle on the state of mind... one being anger and the other being peace

[@blackpow3r]

It should be only stackable with SSJ God because of this very fact you explained.

[@josephbaker9329]

@@blackpow3r even that is questionable, because it's was righteous sayians coming together or even pure hearted... that doesn't say anything about the state of mind... as super sayian blue is super sayian god going super sayian which tells the anger state of mind, so the mind isn't at peace still

[@blackpow3r]

@@josephbaker9329 I argue that UI is stackable with SS God because it leaks no KI and stamina. This should allow Goku to actually calm his mind to use UI. Any other forms strains the body and shouldn't be able to fully be calm in that.

[@blackpow3r]

Honestly to me, UI should've never been a "transformation". It should be a technique that is ONLY stackable with SSJ God since it's the only one that isn't a physical power up and putting any strain on the body. That would make the Red form the most cost efficient form, and SSBlue used to get the boost in power of SSJ at the cost of stamina and UI.

[@tyrannosaurusrex4600]

They ruined everything, even that goku already had the same thing that ui is all about its called martial arts

[@bbg_mir]

i feel like ui a being technique and being used with forms isnt that bad, felt like that was always the vison for it since it wasnt a actual form but just a techique. Like how kio ken isnt a form but a technique and can be used with a forms. Thought we all seen this coming for UI

[@mredizon00]

DBS ( we except Vegeta's character development ) specially Goku's character degredation are bs. Well it's title DBS after all.

[@octaviusmosley3582]

All super saiyan transformations are stronger without god ki. With time given to master SSJ2 and SSJ3 like they did in the hyperbolic time chamber, they can master different grades of both transformations. SSJ4 us on a different level though.

[@marshal8358]

The anime works with UI cause the movies dont bring it up. The Manga continued the story so Toyotarou and Toriyama wrote themselves in a corner and started bringing up 100 reasons and types of UI to keep Goku's growth permanent.

[@Raiden-the-Goat32]

These issues with ultra instinct are more than likely that Goku has some control over it but not full control all of the time. Meaning over time Goku is just simply losing control of ultra instinct all though at the start of a fight his control is better. As fare as him not beating an opponent with ultra instinct mixed with God forms this is a combination of the power and speed of his opponent and over time him losing control over ultra instinct. As i also see it ultra instinct as it is going now will lead to Goku being in full control of the silver haired ultra instinct mixed with ssj blue. But i do agree with 99% of what was said in the video and the other 1% is i think understand what they are going for. I don't think they want Goku having full control 100% of the time with such a potentially broken combination.

[@streptococo4735]

The thing is, the moment Goku achieves a new transformation it is ONLY to beat the new opponent of the week. Next week the enemy HAS to be stronger. Enemies no longer reflect the arc they are in or the characters. Now they are numbers to beat. This is why Beerus and Broly are the WORST thing that DB has brought in terms of power scalling.

[@OnlySayori]

..this is how it's always been, ssj1 was to defeat freiza, ssj2 was to beat cell, ssj3 was to beat buu, is this fanbase finally aware of how the forms ALWAYS goddamned worked? or are most of you going to act like Z was a perfect gem, cause most arguements with super can be used the same with god damn Z

[@franqusco]

Actually the spasms have been introduced with the kaioken

[@umbuso_indlondlo]

I don't like that UI takes the fighter out of the fight. UI is fighting, not Goku, and that's kinda wack in my opinion, coz Goku doesn't have to apply himself mentally to the fight and his opponent.

[@PartyofNone]

this is my brainrot.

[@rell3210]

The cell saga was the peak 4 me . Ssj ain't even a thing no more it's gotten away from saiyan roots . Why not ssj5?

[@Micalex]

Your next video will be "Why ultra Instinct makes PERFECT sense" Just you watch. Honestly the video titles Crack me up everytime💀

[@69ers139]

34 views in 1 minute Fall off? All a joke love the content

[@korn20293]

i get your point of veiw on this but you need to remember ultra instinct is real world thing so it does make sense for fighter body to move on it own

[@baryoncode]

I don't understand the transformation. Ultra instinct is just not thinking. I don't understand how it came along with a new transformation.

[@OnlySayori]

considering how goku hit his head, its a suprise he didnt get this form sooner

[@JustxLiving909]

Bring back ssj4

[@Forehead18]

I understand why ultra instinct isent good anymore, by stacking it with super saiyan forms, it practically lowers the entire show to one peice level. Or even worse, Naruto level. Because it feels like he's barley on par with his openents now instead of either being super behind, or super ahead. Like at this point bro is fighting with glances and Ki attacks but forgetting to use melee. Is ultra instinct an alternative to memory loss? Like bro what are they ganna do next? Combine it with kaioken???

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Hes pretty ultra

[@kahlilpreval1971]

UI being mixed with other transformations makes it weaker

[@whendarknessfalls6969]

Lol it makes sense, learn about battle instincts, and make it ultra. Whis explains it

[@moff3tt]

What's the point of all these power ups if they never actually win fights. 🤦

[@OnlySayori]

i mean, ssj1 got beaten by cell, so they needed ssj2, ssj2 would somewhat work well against buu but even ssj3 wasn't enough so they needed a spirit bomb, so the hell is your point? this was ALWAYS how it's been

[@kingcreaten6025]

Ssj1 can win

[@RadeUeMasq]

So glad I didn't watch DBS.

[@JosephShemelewski]

As someone who saw alot of it I think I like GT more lol

[@OnlySayori]

dbs has the same issues as z, if you like z you should like dbs

[@RadeUeMasq]

@@OnlySayori no, not really. Super Saiyan God? Give me a break. SSB is just a recolor of SS1.

[@jdp3578]

All of these god forms just seem ridiculous even for dragonball. Omg!! Theres this ultra super godly form above everything..........Then random character just shows up stronger........bruh......

[@OnlySayori]

ssj1 was a form of legend and of pratically prophecy...yet cell beats it, so they now need a new form, but now buu is bullcrap haxs even more then cell was, so now we need a new form, oh! ssj3 didnt work, spirit bomb! see how stupid your arguement of forms being garbage where when they ALWAYS where complete crap, with forms needing to be rapidly pump out for the new villain of the arc?