Salamander / Life Force 🦎 Versions Comparison

[@retrosutra]

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[@EhabgotgamesXDSquad]

I Enjoyed Watching These Versions!

[@plume...]

One of my favourite shooters! I was always really impressed by what the C64 version managed to achieve. Great soundtrack too!

[@TheTripleSillyOne]

The arcade port Looks pretty impressive for its time!

[@darkerfalcon3747]

1.Salamander was acutally released even in Europe. So it should be considered as: Arcade (Japan/Europe) 2.The PC Engine version has an enhanced version called "Near Arcade" which is exclusive to PC Engine Mini, sadly. Hope you can make even Gradius II (which i had sent a list of the versions in the Parodius video) and Gradius III.

[@MVC2fan1]

What you didn't realize, it that the PC Engine version of Salamander is exclusive to the US & UK.

[@yousefslimani99]

I really wish they released salamander on SEGA Master System or on SEGA Megadrive/Genesis before they did that on SEGA Saturn 😭

[@Tronnus]

I love the fact that 2007 had a java mobile version while I was playing the NES version of Lifeforce on a java mobile based phone NES emulator which ran the game without any performance issues!

[@antoniogarcia4879]

La versión de Msx , una de las mejores (si no la mejor😅) , en cuanto a música se refiere. Ese SCC sudaba gloria 😅😅😅

[@ChristianCastle]

Great video comparison. I hope you make one with Salamander 2 eventually.

[@IuriFiedoruk]

C-64 port is impressive given the hardware. And Tg-16 is simply an arcade port, awesome!

[@marios15CL]

Excelente comparaciones de Salamander/Life Force. Me acuerdo que jugué una versión remake no oficial para Android. Saludos y que todo el poder bestiamaniaco gamer te acompañe y estamos en contact.

[@retrosutra]

Gracias, Bestiamaníaco. Pues estuve buscando como loco el apk, pero nada... :(

[@Goatdius]

El remake era oficial pero fue cancelado, los desarrolladores subieron la apk tiempo después, creo que en la wiki de Gradius tienes el enlace de descarga si es que no la tiraron

[@retrosutra]

@@Goatdius encontré varios links, pero ninguno de esos funcionaba

[@Goatdius]

@@retrosutra Que mal, me pasa con un Dodonpachi de móvil, igual veo si lo encuentro

[@marios15CL]

@@Goatdius No lo sabia. Excelente remake que mal. De haber sabido, lo hubiera guardado. Saludos y que todo el poder bestiamaniaco gamer los acompañe y estamos en contact.

[@famicomkun]

Yoooo! Thank you so much! This deserves a sub 😊

[@retrowraith5623]

Love this game! Something to note with the NES version in particular is that "Nintendo" is mispelled on the title screen. Always found that amusing especially from the likes of Konami. 😂😅

[@provisionalhypothesis]

was it nintendional ?

[@retrowraith5623]

Nope. It was "Nintend". They left the "o" out. I see where you were going with that tho lol. 😝

[@98Demo]

Dang, the MSX' OST sounds heavenly.

[@ncf1]

C64 soundtrack blitzed even the arcade's.

[@federicocatelli8785]

Solid conversion with a banging soundtrack

[@famicomkun]

The MSX is even better (in terms of soundtrack)

[@federicocatelli8785]

@@famicomkun It's (surprisingly) good most of the time a western developer make a port for msx you get a carbon copy of the spectrum release.

[@ilmestdavisque5391]

The ZX Spectrum port, of course :D

[@daigorouitoya441]

If you start the PCE version while holding down the 1 and 2 buttons, the audio will become stereo. The same goes for GRADIUS.

[@MirabilisProbeebei]

26:01 Turbo Grafx-16 (NA) Ver wasn't released , PCE (JP) Ver only do exist !!!!!!!!!!! PCE (日本) 版は存ってもTurbo Grafx-16 (北米) 版は存在せず、ロクに調べずに勝手な憶測でガセネタ載せんな。 22:52 ZX Spectrum版 や24:52 Amstrad CPC版 Salamander は、ゴーレムに瞼があって瞬きするのが可愛いな。 「他機種版では、瞼が無いとドライアイになるので目薬をさしている」てなパロディ場面を想像してしまった。

[@ChristianCastle]

Funny how Konami reused some Salamander sound effects from NES to Contra port on NES.

[@ralang999]

C64 port is easily among the best arcade ports for that platform

[@zeldaslash2757]

i have the msx 2 it was verry hard

[@fefyfona4318]

Was this another version of Gradius? The ship and power ups looks very similar

[@retrosutra]

Yes, It is an spin-off of Gradius

[@federicocatelli8785]

My ranking 1)X68000 arcade perfect imho 2) Pcengine very good but no speech samples 3)Nes some sprite flicker but good for '87 4)C64 great original soundtrack, somewhat muted colours 5) Msx (msx 1 or 2?) major scrolling issue but surprisingly pleasant music 6)other 8 bits computer I did not include Psx/Saturn as I'm pretty sure it's emulation

[@amerigocosta7452]

That's MSX-1, MSX-2 would have fared better regarding colour palette and scrolling. PSX and Saturn are not emulation but proper ports. They weren't up to the task of emulating such a game. PS1 and Saturn can emulate NES and Master System at best.

[@federicocatelli8785]

@@amerigocosta7452 Always learning😉.

[@EhabgotgamesXDSquad]

I Liked The Original Arcade Classics Which Was Published By Konami. And I Also Like NES Version Too.

[@baroncalamityplus]

Played a ridiculous amount on the NES.

[@federicocatelli8785]

Apart from sprite flickering it looks and sounds well done for the hw

[@KacperSobierajVargskeletor5421]

They should have made a SEGA MegaDrive/Genesis Version and a Master System Version too. That would be 100% Pax Romana Pax Augusta if they did that, a whole lot more people could actually play Salamander if that was the case.

[@Knightimex]

I always liked the NES version the most

[@maxunion8318]

Обожаю эту игру! 😁

[@luisonl1563]

ey crack, ya me mandaras el patreon donde estás programando tu juego Xd. A ver , el salamander, tengo q reconocer que ahora me saca de quicio las vocecitas de "extra shield", "galaxy destroy","attacking" pero en su dia, aquello sonaba a angeles jajajajaja. Este juego es de los pocos, donde se demuestra, que cuando alguien sabía programar para MSX, dejaba tirado a todos los demas de 8bits, pero con una diferencia abismal, cuando era pequeño, no te das cuenta porque para MSX, casi siempre hacían conversiones de spectrum, y claro, encima peor , pobres, q timados se debieron sentir, a no ser que tuvieran un metal gear solid, o algunos juegos de importación q luego no entendías nada. La de commodore tampoco está nada mal, pero spectrum y amstrad, son 2 bodrios absolutos. No lo jugué nunca, tenía q compararlo con el r-type y claro, no había color-clash. ( broma muy mala de viejuno) . la x68000 es un calco de la recreativa, esta maquina era muy potente, no te recuerdan las voces a las mismas usadas o parecidas en la recreativa del gauntlet?? ;) Y el pc-engine tambien, se nota mucho q su chipgrafico de "16bit", le daba ese salto generacional q al nes y sms, luego ya con snes y megadrive se quedaron cortos. REspecto a play,y sega saturn, juegan en otra liga, tanto en sonido como en potencia, que por cierto, la musica del MSX y el chip de sonido q me dices? flipa en? Bueno, el podio quedaría tal que así, no pongo la recreativa, porque es a la que hay que mejorar, ni tampoco a la play y saturn porque no es justo. 1. X68000 muy potente, es un calco al arcade 2. Pc engine 3. MSX Como siempre, gran trabajo y un abrazo.

[@retrosutra]

jajaja no creo que haga un patreon para eso, pero a saber... Iré informando del progreso. Las vocecitas del juego se me hacen un poco cansinas al cabo de un rato, pero supongo que tenían que alardear de que era capaces de meter esos sonidos digitalizados. Pues no he reparado en la similitud que tienen con las de Gauntlet, pero si algún día me pongo a hacer la comparativa de versiones ya lo averiguaré xD. Por cierto, hay un hack de MSX de Salamander que incluye las voces. Me hace gracia que comentes lo de las pobres conversiones para MSX, porque yo era uno de los poseedores de ese ordenador. Por suerte, llegué a tener algún cartucho de importación, como el Gradius, pero poco más... Estoy de acuerdo con tu ranking, aunque considero que la versión de ZX Spectrum aún se puede jugar (dentro de las limitaciones y lo malilla que es la conversión). La de CPC infumable por lo leeeenta que es. ¡Un abrazo!

[@almeidachannel7121]

Nice Video ! Sub & Big Like ! And Love Retro Games !

[@drewba7741]

I wish I was this good.

[@huevo_azul]

wow la version de nes separese mas ala usa de arcade que la japo de arcado

[@ИгорьН-г3ф]

cool))) ty)))

[@huevo_azul]

la usa siempre siendo la version mejorada XD

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

C64 version looks amazing and sounds the best.

[@marzli]

You forgot the epic Smartphone Version

[@retrosutra]

No, I didn't forget it, but unfortunately I couldn't find it.

[@marzli]

@@retrosutra kzbin.info/www/bejne/aF6aq2xrg9lsrZI

[@retrogamesrevived1189]

Can anyone tell the difference in Salamander and LifeForce? They look the same to me 🤷

[@DeskoDev]

It's mainly a regional title/story change. Salamander is a sequel to Konami's earlier Gradius. US arcade Life Force's changes are all aesthetic aside from the different plotline (Stage 1's background is recycled for most of the game, different voice lines). Japanese Life Force is an exception since it completely changed the power-up system to be more like Gradius, which the NES and MSX versions of Salamander inherited. For the NES versions, Life Force uses a less advanced mapper chip, so the HUD had to be moved down a bit - requiring it to be crammed onto two lines so it wouldn't get cut off on some displays - and a couple of graphical effects were simplified/removed like on the title screen and in Stage 5. It also reduced the number of Options/Multiples you can have from 3 to 2 (unrelated to the mapper change), making the game considerably harder, but also offsets that by adding in a shorter Konami Code variant that bumps up your starting life count to 30.

[@marzli]

Nes Version rocks

[@あつし-n8y]

Where is the PSP version?

[@retrosutra]

Isn't It emulation?

[@あつし-n8y]

@@retrosutra What are the standards for emulation?

[@あつし-n8y]

@@retrosutra In Japan, it was sold as 「沙羅曼蛇ポータブル」

[@retrosutra]

What I mean is that in many more modern system compilations what they do is run the original rom through an emulator. I generally don't include those versions in my videos.

[@あつし-n8y]

@@retrosutra I see, I understand very well.

[@kennetheweka6690]

Corporate needs to find the difference between PlayStation and Sega Saturn Konami: They're the same picture

[@BERNDSBG]

Easy. PlayStation playfiels is a rectangle and Saturn is nearly square.

[@miguelangelleongonzalez2918]

Basura el port de amstrad al igual que el de zx.

[@yellowinahat]

Ah yes, another attempt on speaking English.

[@fradd182]

MSX is bloody awful, as almost always is. C64 is an impressive 8-bit version. ZX looks rough in comparison to c64, but still playable. CPC is a criminal ZX port..

[@mortenera2294]

Maybe you should take off your nostalgia-tinted glasses before shitting on a computer platform you known nothing about