Salamanders FIRE TRUCKS!!🔥 - Thematic List Build 10th Edition Warhammer 40k

In this Thematic List Build for 10th edition Warhammer 40,000 the focus is on the Space Marines of the Salamanders Guard. The focus - is obviously to utilize the flame and melta weaponry the XVIIIth are known for, but also to marry that with the use of transports, which is what the Firestorm Assault Detachment wants.
This video follows the format of the previous Warhammer 40K list builds, starting with a rules critique, definition of thematic goals and to create a list which allows the sons of Vulkan to engage in the close range firefight and UTTERLY DESTROY the opposition in the purifying flame. And like with the previous, there are a few opinion pieces peppered (or maybe salted?) throughout 😂
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0:00:00 - Intro
0:00:40 - Mechanics Review
0:02:30 - Thematic Objectives
0:02:49 - List Build
0:11:20 - Review
0:12:12 - Outro and Supporting the Channel
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[@jamesdillane]

Gravis Captain also grants the Grenades Keyword to the Aggressor unit. A good chance for some extra mortal wounds that they normally miss out on.

[@WhatThe40k]

An excellent point ☝️

[@andytan2411]

@@WhatThe40k can you explain what this is pls?

[@WhatThe40k]

@@andytan2411 sure. Grenades, is a keyword some units have which allows them to use the core stratagem: grenades. Which allows that unit to roll some dice for potential mortal wounds in the shooting please.

[@andytan2411]

@@WhatThe40k oh thanks, i just jumped in 10th, havent seen the core strats yet haha

[@stuartskelhorn770]

and so does the redeemer it can grenade and tank shock

[@ShonG]

All I need to field this army is another Repulsor and a Redeemer.

[@stephenb2817]

That's awsome the only thing I need to field this army is lot of money.

[@redspyke8227]

New to the hobby and Salamanders are my favorite legion, aside from Carcharodons and Emperor's Spears. I just want to smash all three of my favorite things together and this just gave me a starting point.

[@WhatThe40k]

Glad to hear this video prove useful.😊

[@redspyke8227]

@@WhatThe40kcurses the points update requires me to fix the list a bit… I wonder though with the changes to the Impulsor carrying 7 now and the Repulsor carrying 14 what we can get away with.

[@SWATDRUMMUH]

Now I'm curious if they make a new he'stan, will the 3 artefacts be buffed or the same. Really should get a calgar glow-up with those legendary artifacts!

[@WhatThe40k]

He'stan upping to Gravis would be amazing🤩

[@SWATDRUMMUH]

​@@WhatThe40kcould probably kitbash the gravis captain with he'stan and some heavy flamers from terminators?

[@paulzheng5327]

I think for critical hits/lethal hits you can’t modify the dice so using forged in battle you will only be guaranteed the hit not the wound.

[@RevanR]

-milk- fire truck has arrive!

[@sunlightblaze6105]

I'm shy just a few Bladeguard Vets, a Land Raider, and an Impulsor. So close!!!

[@toportime]

Salamanders are my favorite chapter of space marines. Nice thematic list!

[@fatdelinquent85]

what we lost from 9th are the insanely good strategems out of the codex supplement ^^ Giving ALL Flame weapons in a unit the keyword "pistol" for one round really makes close combat against aggressors with flame gauntlets deadly. Another favourite of mine was the ability to overwatch with a unit that is nearby the one being actually charged.

[@jacobrekos8695]

I want to start playing this game and I believe you have drawn out the perfect army for me and my choice of playing the salamanders! Thank you!

[@aidanthornton173]

I'd love to see a *Jump Pack/Fast Attack* theme. Maybe Blood Angel's?

[@william9557]

All bikes. Because they have turbo boost, to auto advance 6", slap a chaplain in and you've got 18" of movement, and then a solid 24" of gun range. The chaplain gives them the mortal wounds on shooting against one unit within 12" which also correlates with +1 to S and the bikes having twin bolt rifles for reroll wounds, so that's a lot of firepower and then keeps them covered with a +1 to wound in melee too. It's something that's just hard to screen against and blows saves away.

[@justinfloyd1471]

Great list, thanks for the inspiration!

[@patticusfinch139]

Nice Gravis Salamanders list, a Hive Fleet Kronos list would be neat

[@BenBell-fc8cm]

YES

[@dovahkruz]

Excellent list fire brother! and congrats for the 20K that's amazing!

[@WhatThe40k]

Thank you very much ☺️

[@CasanovaHero]

Congrats on the 20k!

[@AshenXr155]

This was fantastic! Thanks for the ideas 😈

[@WhatThe40k]

Glad you liked it!!😬

[@rickdriver0]

Congrats. I love your thematics and theatrics 🤘🏻 keep up the great work 😊

[@WhatThe40k]

Thank you! Will do!

[@GriffTV]

I’m excited that a lot of what I already have is on this list and it looks a lot of fun! The 9th edition version of this video helped me get started with my salamanders and I’m excited to try this out!

[@WhatThe40k]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@TobasscoJelly]

Love this content.

[@ItsMrDon]

i would change a bit of it personally but i like this list

[@valonqarie726]

Vulkan Lives!

[@saltierney6605]

God I wish Vulkan had the tacticus keyword, those infernus marines in the impulsor(and my infernus marines I run in my impulsor) are just begging him to hop in with them.

[@DeprivedSage]

BEST ONE YET

[@zerocoolaow5122]

I had to pause the video and thank you for using LoD music. Amazing ❤ And MegaMan!!!

[@WhatThe40k]

Glad you enjoyed! Somehow they felt appropriate 😂

[@Clasicrokrboy5]

Where can you get that specific brazier for the blageguard ancient? It looks bigger than the standard brazier from the salamander upgrades and the perfect size for that ancient.

[@artur_kotin111]

Bro! You can also add the volcano histan hero. To throw another mark and reroll with all the units of the torrent and melta weapons on it!

[@markthematey9873]

Quick question about the bladeguard, wouldn't yo want them in the land raider for the assault ramp so they can charge the same turn?

[@WhatThe40k]

Yeah probably. I didn't since I wanted to keep the Redeemer the "star" transport.

[@linkdancer3890]

This now gives me motivation to make this list, with a few changes, on tts for a narrative fight against a tyrnaid swarm that is invading a planet that humans have greatly lived and benefited from. Ofc this tyranid army has its “invasion fleet” detachment with some monstrous creatures like the scream killer and the new norm assamilator combined with tactic use of spore spons for adaptable field control.

[@WhatThe40k]

That, sounds like a good time. 😩👌

[@linkdancer3890]

@@WhatThe40k just another day of pest control for the salamanders.

[@user-lk8iv8dk8v]

can you do a deathwing dark angels list fam

[@metalblizzard6024]

I want to build this army but it feels difficult

[@Plasmathedeathjester]

Can you do a list for death watch

[@aaronguerrette]

Black Templars using Rightous Crusaders detatchment

[@Dasacht095]

This list is very solid and not too unalike to my own salamander list. Now I dont have 2 repulsors so this also changes it for me, not as thematic but still quite solid Instead of the librarian, vulkan he'stan with the 5 infernus marines 5 other infernus marines to induce BS checks infiltraitor keeps the entire deployment zone safe while the intercessors tag it and move up Inceptors for plasma exterminators(its a type of fire right >.>) for back field objectives Everything else I'd keep the same. Definitely considering the BGvet ancient to join adrax and my bg vets though, would turn his unit into a true horror show.

[@WhatThe40k]

Glad you like the list, and thanks for taking the time to share yours. Your suggestion to take He'stan with the infernus squad would make for an even spicier fire truck.🔥

[@johnkevill470]

I hate how firestorm is so transport dependent, with 3/5 stratagems being transport related. There is no durability or reactive defense here, which matches the “unbreakable anvil” aspect of the Salamanders much better than transports

[@WhatThe40k]

A valid sentiment... I agree! Personally I would have preferred to drop the Onslaught of Fire strat, for a FNP, or put a model back in a unit strat.

[@StorytellerCharm]

If you do Ultramarines with Uriel Ventril and Calgar you don’t need the land raiders redeemer

[@andrewcrane5105]

Idk why but I saw "fire trucks" and my thumb just...pressed play 🤣

[@tomarazar4583]

Hey pretty good to saw some salamanders. But the bladeguard and adraxx are good ?

[@WhatThe40k]

I think so. Re-roll all wounds in melee with Bladeguard seems so.

[@gangstalker47]

In your opinion, what's the best way to run Crimson Fist? Basically just Imperial Fist build, right?

[@WhatThe40k]

Yeah, its not a perfect fit.... I really wish the C.Fists had their own detachment rule to give them their own flavor, with being able to use the Imperial Fists strats/enhancements like with the previous supplement. From a 'purists' pov, i'd go with the imperial fists themed detachment. Although...🤔given that so many Crimsons Fists are veterans you could opt for a first company detachment too. Especially,if you were trying to differentiate a crimson fist army from an imperial fist one in a given play group.

[@gangstalker47]

@WhatThe40k thanks brother. I appreciate you

[@nathanielwiley8745]

I know this video is old and you probably wont see this but do you (or anyone who sees this) have any recommendations on reducing this list to 1k? As in cutting things from it to get it down to a workable 1k list.

[@WhatThe40k]

Let it be known, I HAVE SEEN THIS COMMENT! As for dialing it down for 1k the simplest approach would be to cut half the units out, though it may not provide too many units. While a redeemer at 1k would certainly be rude, I would rather go with double repulsor at 1k. Gives meaty transports for detachment strats, and a few lascannon options.

[@nathanielwiley8745]

@@WhatThe40k Woah, thank you! I love the theme and synergies in this list so I want to build my way up to it, but wanted something smaller in the meantime. Keeping the double repulsors totally makes sense. Now I just need to find that bladeguard ancient at a "reasonable" price. Thanks again, this was the most fun list I've seen for Salamanders and I can't wait to try it out!

[@smallbarns]

Aren’t you going to elaborate on the 2 Reiver Squads ??

[@deeperestmeme479]

Maybe try dipping into AoS thematic list building too? I feel like stuff like this for other games like AoS will bring in another niche of people

[@WhatThe40k]

An interesting idea. Admittedly I feel quite out of my depth when looking at the AoS armies. From what I can tell, AoS has been designed from the jump to not have subfactions in the same way as 40k is trying to operate presently. Would you confirm that to be true?

[@deeperestmeme479]

@@WhatThe40k they have subfactions. Though I am not the most well versed in AoS myself, Ogor Mawtribes have around 6 different “subfactions” they can choose on top of army construction types for different benefits

[@rickyvaldez5205]

I was with you until I heard rievers. I use Terminators with a terminator captain for charge re rolls out of deepstrike. Also a drop pod with dev squad and multi melta. The list was good when executed correctly.

[@WhatThe40k]

Hehe. Oh Reivers, the forever unloved unit😂. Jokes aside, the Terminators + Captain from deepstrike would serve well. Though I felt 2 captains was enough😂

[@rickyvaldez5205]

@@WhatThe40k I ended up going 2-1 at a local rtt and used that combo along a 6 man squad of aggressors+ grab captain in a land raider (really fun combo). The games were amazing and I had a lot of fun. The Terminator and dev squad with drop pod really helped me score secondaries easily.

[@WhatThe40k]

That's great to hear! You certainly want some deepstrikers to keep the opponent honest, and for those tactical scondaries if going that route. Vulkan Lives!🔥🔥

[@rickyvaldez5205]

​@@WhatThe40k I definitely had He'stan in my list to sit on a backfield objective, ive got a 10 man squad of infernus marines to pair him with to keep him around longer.

[@GoodGuySatan]

Wait weren't you like 1k when I first found you? Congratulations!

[@WhatThe40k]

Much appreciated brutha 🍻

[@armandosolis3943]

Is the lethal hits with the apothecary legal? Is that not considered a modified role? Sorry I’m new.

[@WhatThe40k]

Not sure what you mean by modified role, but as far as I am aware, the Biologis gives it to his unit while leading them.

[@sean1825]

🔥

[@andytan2411]

Enlighten me, how can 6 aggressors + 1 captain fits in the land raider? Arent they max occupancy at 6 gravis armored marines?

[@WhatThe40k]

Redeemer has 14 slots. 🔥🔥

[@andytan2411]

@@WhatThe40k ah yeah how did i misread 14 for 12 lmao, thanks!

[@AwpZoomer]

Just want to clarify, aren't Aggressors 240 for 6 models?

[@WhatThe40k]

Probably. There likely have been points updates to them since when I published this vid.

[@JapzT]

What Tool you use to make that list?

[@WhatThe40k]

Its an old widget made for list building back in 8th edition. Now its just a skeleton to make the list visualization more interesting. It doesn't do any list building. For that I do recommend New Recruit though.

[@Bladecharge]

You made me feel in love with this list. I inow the reciwrd are point fooder but are there other reasons

[@veisticon91]

This video is fire 🔥 I’m sorry

[@artur_kotin111]

Maestro. U search good synergia army!

[@petararmbruster5039]

in the words of captain America, FLAME ON

[@j.rivera1974]

What kit is that brazier from @4:17 ?

[@WhatThe40k]

SoB. Rhino IIRC

[@j.rivera1974]

@@WhatThe40k definitely not from their rhino.

[@WhatThe40k]

@@j.rivera1974 Not the rhino, but one of their other rhino based kits the immolator.

[@123Freezy321]

What's that brazier from?

[@Clasicrokrboy5]

So I asked on Reddit and I guess it's from one of the Adepta Sororitas tank kits. Hopefully someone is selling their spare bits

[@WhatThe40k]

Sorry about that, lost track of this comment. As @clasicrokrboy5 identified that it's from the SOB rhinos.

[@killyekfael4909]

I thought the reives were the worst choice of space marines? xD

[@tastefulavenger]

They generally are even if they get boosted to str5 and get assault back on their guns...something im confused as to how they lost in the first place. Either way if he needed back field action monkeys, scouts or another jump.A intercessor squad just trumps any use reivers could bring.

[@WhatThe40k]

Yeah the kinda are....😅 But they add a different flavor! Really I just wanted another few deepstrike units, and I didn't want to have more jump packs in this list as I want to lean harder into jump packs for a different chapter.

[@tastefulavenger]

@@WhatThe40k I think a cool backline striking hammerstrike speeder would fit well in this list str10 melta is scary

[@Lord_Vesh]

When you get to 40K subscribers you should jump the shark and do an Age of Sigmar list ⚡️🔨

[@ger5956]

Reivers? 🤔

[@WhatThe40k]

😂 yeah crazy, I know. 😂 Really I just wanted another few deepstrike units, and I didn't want to have more jump packs in this list as I want to lean harder into jump packs for a different chapter.

[@Demortixx]

Better than minme

[@newtoncain]

prefer the vbr vs list building

[@william9557]

Drop the two reivers, take 5 termies. Better staying power, S5 storm bolters and S8 fists, and can take a heavy weapon. Throw in a librarian if youre feeling sustained hits, add forged in battle for an auto wound krak missile shot that generates an additonal hit. Personally would use two squads of eliminators in the impulsor with sgt having the bolt carbine. Why? Because they get out. Shoot with 4x las fusils, use the bolt carbine ability to then end a normal move within 3" of the impulsor, re-embark. Then have the impuslor shoot. Another 4x las fusil shots. And given the transport can let units disembark after making an advance move, 8 guaranteed S10, ap3 1d6 shots right into the foes face that they just cant wipe off the board easy.

[@basicbroski4136]

Terminator Librarian?

[@Desm0708]

Not only is this not a thematically accurate list for Salamanders, it's not even a good list. 2 Reiver squads? Bladeguard with an Ancient, in a *Repulsor*??

[@WhatThe40k]

Thanks for taking the time to check out the video and leave a comment. I'll try to address your points. In terms of 'not a thematically accurate list', beyond the specified thematic goals mentioned in the video, I have already done a Salamanders thematic list build video with more let's say, traditional values. And since I would rather have a new video offer something different I leaned into the Fire Trucks theme incentivized by the detachment ruleset. In terms of 'its not even a good list, because it contains Reivers and a Blade Guard Ancient', the answer is fairly simple. If I the framing to create a list build video for each chapter, I'd rather have those videos feature unique and different units than rather, each chapter taking the popular competitive netlist and peppering in their flavor. Plus Reivers are cool and deserve more love. 😂

[@JaxTheReaper21]

How can you call this a thematic list when there are no Terminators? Salamanders have more Terminators than almost any other chapter.

[@WhatThe40k]

The theme used for this list was "fire trucks". Taking flame oriented units and big transports to make use of their transport related rules. Rarely do I make thematic list builds based on the literal inventory of a factions armory alone.

[@scolack123]

Isnt that dark angels?