Winter Sea Fishing a Historical Beach Mark

[@martinlloyd1297]

Fished Dungeness for years,along with Denge Marsh & Galloways,had some brilliant sessions,happy days & nights.

[@nicholascavie2464]

Awesome again Matt, fished there a lot in my teens, caught some nice bass, big cod ,heaps of dabs , and good sized whiting, never caught a dog fish.weather here hot and very humid ,hope 2 get out Saturday and fish the FADS in my mates boat ,hopefully get stuck into some dolphin fish .Happy catching from Australia Nick

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Again KZbin banned this comment simply because of no gap after a full stop! Its not your fault because i keep telling it to allow all your comments. Please keep sending your AUS news too love it

[@jmr5551000]

Used to fish Dungie a lot back in the day , the beach would be lined with Anglers , had some good Cod and Bass from there , , stopped going because of the doggies and pin whiting , no cod to eat them anymore

[@ukgraffitiwalker8846]

Fantastic video, great to watch after work.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Nice 👍 glad it’s appreciated- Happy Christmas here’s to some good fish in 2024

[@ukgraffitiwalker8846]

@@SaltwaterAngler Definitely, I went to sheerness on Thursday. I got 24 whiting and 1 dab! It beats a blank 👍

[@glencronin1592]

Nice one Matt, I went on Friday was plagued with small fish but had a good day, getting out and doing a bit is what matters. Thanks for the video and have a great Christmas, thanks for all your video's 👍👍👍🎣🎣🎣

[@SaltwaterAngler]

No worries and appreciate all your input to the channel this year- yep I could of landed hundreds but always after something else ! Have a good Christmas 🎅

[@davidchiarletti4648]

I used to live on coastal drive me and me brother with our wicked auntie who had ice cream parlour in New Romney back in the 70s I've been back to fish Dungeness to many bad memories and good ones too !

[@jimmyoconnell6167]

Used to fish dungeness in the 70s 80s plenty of cod back then like everywhere else been out fished

[@SaltwaterAngler]

For sure

[@theoriginalwelderpaul]

Fantastic, peace and quiet, fishing and a dog (4 legged one!). What more! Cheers Matt, appreciate your videos

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Lol great comment thanks Happy Christmas 🎄

[@wingnut2245]

In the eighties, when the cod were in close, anglers would have used that small whiting as bait for the Big Cod! I remember reading John Darlings great articles on fishing Dungie. I fished there regularly in the Winter months through the late 70s and early 80s. I caught all sorts of fish including Whiting,Codling, Bass, flatties,but never got the double figure cod. It wasn’t from lack of trying! Never caught a Dog fish there ever!

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yep the times have changed. I wonder how much are natural cycles and how much over fishing ? I’ve read all the John Darling books and often romanticise over those golden days. Can’t believe you haven’t caught a doggy there

[@davidrutter7029]

Great fishing dungeons absolutely love it

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yep Great venue better fishing available !

[@davidrutter7029]

In between the lighthouses is a good point two

[@bobbob6725]

me and my mate done a couple of overnighters up there in the late summer near the boats was so much plastic in the seaweed could of filled a carrier bag :/ was a dogfest then too haha

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yea thanks bobbob I do wonder about night fishing - I did release a load of whiting and one came back inside one of many bottles. Think it’s the way the bay sweeps round past the point it’s a natural stop for rubbish and dogs!

[@gordonrichards8037]

Remember those I was the one with John Darling in those bays, will never see it again 70 - 100lb of cod on a 4- 5 hour trip over top of the tide. Only ever used single black lug, dug down behind the range.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Now just a 4lb cod would be big news

[@leoncox2405]

Love your videos really chill me out

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Really appreciate your comments too this year - Have a great Christmas and all the best for 2024

[@tomasdevine7756]

This is true not many others do this.

[@saturn16]

Hi Matt, I've been watching the channel for some time now. I only get to sea fish once a year when on holiday for the week, but I really look forward to it. Thanks for making all these videos, I'm learning loads 👍😃

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Glad to hear that , it’s genuinely why I record my fishing sessions for feedback like this. Good to know - where do you fish on holiday ?

[@saturn16]

@@SaltwaterAngler We spend the week in Dawlish warren in August. I fish for Mackerel and Bass with lures off a small wall/jetty that 's near Langstone Rock. I've only ever caught a few Mackerel and a Gurnard. I plan to do a bit of beach casting next time when the beaches clear in the evenings.

[@loooodoooog]

Would like to try this mark soon looks tranquil. Yeah this year seems to be especially quiet on the cod front sad times. Seems to be a few more up north might have to venture up there on the spring run next year . Tight lines and thanks for another enjoyable watch 🫡

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Thanks for that. We do get a few cod(ling) but in small numbers. Appreciate the comment and thanks for joining in- also you have a very recognisable KZbin name !

[@loooodoooog]

@@SaltwaterAngler My username is a combination of my first name and my most caught species lol . I had a fair bit of luck at the Portland end of Chesil last year after a storm. A coddling over 6 1/2 lb = Cod , off the shore in the UK is on my bucket list. How are you getting on with the Penn reel ?

[@Gazzyb2071]

Great video, as always, Matt. I'd take a dogfish any day rather than blank. Great to see Nellie enjoying a days fishing and nice to have commentary back. 👍

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Thanks yes I might bring her more if she promises not to run off ! Thanks for the comments and all the best for 2024

[@leoncox2405]

Thanks bud and you 🎉

[@bigmoncrief6071]

It's lovely to get out this time of year even if the bait you're chucking out has more fight than the fish you're reeling in!

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Ha Thanks I think you get it ! I suppose there is always that hope of something more interesting though and as you know whiting do fight (at least for the first 10 seconds)

[@mikesaul8711]

Hi Matt,lovely upload as always, as you said cod beach in its day,fished it mid 1980s and always a good session. Thanks for posting. Kind regards Mike. Norfolk. Tight lines.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

@mikesaul8711 I would love to go back to that era - Time Machine needed but always possible to return to those days as Cod reproduce well given the opportunity

[@brianpask8955]

I had heard that Dungie was plagued by small doggies - proved that one! You are so right about the tide pull there especially on a bigger tide. Well done on sticking it out though.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yea thanks , think its worst by the point . Interesting how the dogs stopped on the ebb and the tings took over. Have had bass, sole and dab here but …. Never a cod

[@GregPodster133]

Thanks for sharing this video. Great content as usual 👏 👌.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Thanks for that. Genuinely want to just share some sea fishing. Knowledge frustrations mistakes and joy ! Have a good Christmas

[@GregPodster133]

@SaltwaterAngler I'm waiting for a knee operation ( 30th jan) so not been out this year.🤦‍♂️. Your/Awful Angler ( Alex) keep my spirits up. Have a great Christmas and a happy new year. Ps. Not even been able to use my Stickers yet.🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤣

[@lureinspector]

Thank you again for the great video :) Whenever I see those weeds while fishing with lures, I go straight back to home 🤣, I hate those weeds.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Ha yea hard to fish around on the lure- I tend to cast at my feet very close in when it’s that bad on a surface lure like the spitting wore

[@cucinawithlove]

Great video mate as always 👍

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Thanks 🙏

[@secretsix6]

i run a PENN TIDAL XR an i love it nice an strong don't have to work hard an haven't fixed spool reels come a long way from the seventy's

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Great I’m reviewing a penn tidal this week actually (not the X-ray)

[@davidchiarletti4648]

Night fishing in Dungeness is best I used to have the key to get car right down pass GATE as close as possible to shore otherwise it's long walk on those people's from pub or lighthouse or RD

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Thanks good tip ! Yep I thing might fishing should up the catch rate

[@johncoombs3128]

Matt why don’t you use rod tip protectors and strap the butts and tips together with the reels on ? That will save having dodgy reel fittings further down the line.atb mate

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yes good reminder. I’ve got some in the shed somewhere !

[@skateboardingjesus4006]

That's a lot of doggies. They must be having their annual Crimbo party just offshore?😅 Have a great Christmas Matt, and a very fishy new year.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Ahh there he is ! Happy Christmas

[@akqj10119]

Good my Fishing friend Wonderful 👍

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Hello and thank you

[@djsimonrossprice9400]

Two m8s in 1977 fished christmas eve When they finished their session they made a quite macabre greeting. It read .. MERRY CHRISTMAS 1977.... 😮😮😮 IN CODS heads.. each letter was 2ft high and each head was touching....

[@SaltwaterAngler]

I can believe it. Some of those old photos in angling books are like a fishing dream world (in black and white)

[@djsimonrossprice9400]

@@SaltwaterAngler i know buddy plus these guys admitted with those old glass rods couldnt put a bait past 60 yds..!!!!

[@sidoney11]

So what's the parking like i stopped going to Dungeness years ago as i didn't want my car broken in too!

[@SaltwaterAngler]

I did notice a police patrol - I set a camera up on mine ! Possibly an issue for night fishing more ?

[@stevesmith782]

I fish it quite a bit never had any trouble with me car

[@davetart7029]

The police patrol is armed protection for the power station from the usual suspects

[@paulbennett5370]

Well done

[@ManicFishing]

360 man👌😎🎣

[@DavidBing-t5k]

Great video Matt and a hard days fishing with plenty of fish. Catching much the same here in broadstairs but the whiting seem to be on the small side. How do you rate shellfish baits? Loads of limpets here and I have been told they can be a good bass bait. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Best wishes Dave

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Hi Dave - shellfish baits deadly after a storm and sometimes the only thing the fish want. Limpets not so much no real juices. Merry Christmas 🎄

[@KeefsCattys]

I moved to Scotland 35 years ago. I've not followed the fishing media much, so I'm SO surprised that nobody catches cod from there any more ?? Seriously ??? it was such a great venue and really popular . I used to combine fishing and birdwatching . wonderful place ! . Very sad to hear .

[@SaltwaterAngler]

It’s sad but true, yes.

[@djsimonrossprice9400]

History lesson. In 1941/42 the winter was one of the worst for over 50 years.. the cod spawned as usual BUT because it was indeed so cold the cod fry Usual predators i.e mackerel, whitting, herring were driven off into much deeper warmer water. Hence the year class was phenomenal for over 20 years years. ( Bear in mind trawlers didn't have the electronics they have today.). So catches were much smaller, plus the fish carried on breeding in later years... This is why the fishing was so good from the shore again even without the rods n reels of today..... Now move forward to the winter of 1963.. THE EXACT SAME THING happened AGAIN... well it doesn't take a genius to work out why we had it so good until the early 1980... Sadly these fish got totally fished out and hence why its dire at Dungeness now. Ok the odd decent fish does pop up but nothing like it was.. As rods and reels improved its easy to see why it was outstanding. Along with improved casting techniques developed by the likes of Les Moncreff Terry Carrol Neil Mckellow Paul kerry And last but certainly not least Alan Yeates... With the average trawler with a wheelhouse like the Apollo space program is it any wonder the fish were totally wiped out... But we did have a slight improvement following the winter of 2010 when it froze for 6/7 weeks. But with not enough fish to breed heavily it didn't last... so those that fished from say 1966 》 1980.. Had the golden period of it.... Funnily you can equate this periods where the cod got wiped out with the arrival of the dreaded DOGFISH.... Because exactly the same thing happened at the other cod mecca in the time above ... CHESIL BEACH.....

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Great input Thanks . It’s always worth thinking of fish in successful breeding years I like the idea that there may be hope (despite those mega trawlers) you mention. Grew up on those names from Sea Angler magazine. Did you mean Alan Yates ? He was more the match man than caster wasn’t he. I remember writing to him a few times ! I like your reasoning on dogfish , like thornback and smoothound can now be caught on lug inshore. Signs that something is effecting their normal habits . Appreciate the input🫡

[@djsimonrossprice9400]

@@SaltwaterAngler my pleasure.. i did indeed mean Alan but for his rig streamlining which obviously got us further out to deeper waters and naturally the fish. 😉👍

[@TheHead9999]

Prior to the EU stripping our waters by ignoring predatory Spanish and French he would be catching 10lbs + cod.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

So true

[@TheCrazzyashley]

How do you live bait a whiting?

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Lip hook a circle hook - I show it in most of the other Autumn videos

[@clivecook7193]

Hi no sound

[@robertcornelius8056]

I can hear it

[@SaltwaterAngler]

How about now?

[@robertcornelius8056]

@@SaltwaterAngler got sound

[@davidchiarletti4648]

You don't catch big fish small cod all you get is small plaice flounder small dog fish nothing to get excited about you need a boat and go out half a mile makes a big difference

[@tonycamplin8607]

Didn't realise that the fishing was so poor at Dungeness these days. If that was a typical day it wasn't worth the effort of getting there. When I last fished there, about 1962 you'd have got a nice big bag of eatable cod at this time of year.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Ohh to go back to 1962 ! Yea the only thing is that it’s bite a chuck for dogs and tings so for the beginner an really good opportunity to feel something on the line . Also I do wonder if there is some more interesting species being beaten to the bait. As for the Cod… maybe one day they will return

[@tonycamplin8607]

@@SaltwaterAngler Many thanks for your detailed reply. It wasn't all good back then though, we didn't have all the wonderful tackle that you've got or proper weather proof clothing. Tight lines, happy Christmas.

[@kennethware9729]

Smelly nellys cute

[@SaltwaterAngler]

She’s alright ! I’ll tell her

[@kneiterundweiter8426]

Boring sharks…..

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Exactly