Sam and Flynn talk

Scene from Tron Legacy; Sam calls Flynn out on hiding

[@sandraj45617]

When you realize the portal only closes because the computer goes to sleep mode.😋

[@julianr8544]

Damn I never thought about that.

[@FriendlyCroock]

When you realize you're not contributing to anything except playing video games and a computer going into sleep mode feels like "nothing" to you. Yes, I mean myself and maybe you as well.

[@KizaruB]

If the only way for a program to escape is by using Kevin’s disc (which he exclusively possesses), then why did he need to make the portal so far away? How did he get anything done in the Grid if it only stayed open for like 10 hours and he had to spend hours just getting to it? How did nobody ever amass a large enough offensive at the portal to usurp his disc and use it to pass through?

[@sandraj45617]

@@KizaruB movie logic, and possibly expansion or something

[@xrstevenson]

@@KizaruB I can answer all of that. The portal being far away, its just plot. For your next question, Flynn couldn't get shit done which is why he created Clu to help him work when he wasn't around. For your last question, Flynn is God to the programs, why would you try to usurp God when he has been nothing but good and benevolent to you?

[@Blue-gp7jb]

"It's amazing how productive doing nothing could be" lol being in quarantine be like

[@antoniofuller2331]

I understand what you mean

[@ViperEye]

"What's more imperfect than our world..." You said it.

[@BlitzAMV]

Heavy stuff man.

[@fredriklindberg6166]

Depends on how you see it. One could see our world as a perfect balance of advanced mathematics.

[@suneetamrute4304]

Yup

[@joewhitehead3]

@@fredriklindberg6166 I guess you could say some of us see the world differently

[@pleaseenteranamelol711]

Perfectly imperfect

[@Madara-rz8hv]

The world wasnt ready for this movie

[@KizaruB]

Let’s hope Legacy isn’t the last time we see of Tron on the big screen. There’s reports that a new one might happen, but it could just end up cancelled again.

[@sp1duh84]

Sure wasn't. I was ALL about this film when it came out in 2010--still a major influence to me in regards to pop-culture science fiction.

[@O-.-O]

Yeah, the world is not really ready for this cheap soft reboot sequels xD

[@nautikient2151]

@@O-.-O stfu

[@maggondatreides4783]

I needed this.

[@atlasprime6193]

“The only way to win is not to play!” WarGames reference....

[@johnhaladay5541]

Yup. I picked that up, too.

[@jdm1066]

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[@antoniofuller2331]

Hmmm

[@UnchainedEruption]

I can't tell if it's because this is truly an underrated film or movies today just suck a lot more, but this film is a lot better than I remember.

[@Solaxe]

There were countless shitty movies in the past, especially in the era when CGI was new lol

[@Animeman147]

underrated just like the first

[@Shadowkey392]

Solaxe S it’s just underrated. Just like the first Tron was underrated.

[@jedijordaninfinity]

This imo was like the last good Disney movie before Soy Wars, MCU, and the live-action remakes era

[@KizaruB]

It’s the art, cinematography, and music that really make this movie enjoyable.

[@SowiesoSchon]

So something I noticed watching these clips now, Flynn says a mili-cycle lasts about 8 hrs & Clu said they'd been there for a 1,000 cycles. So relatively speaking, the math adds up to Flynn experiencing 925 yrs inside the computer before the events of this movie.

[@KizaruB]

“Long time” “You have no idea”

[@aliensguy4291]

Almost accurate... On the official wiki Kevin flynn experienced 1,050 years

[@SowiesoSchon]

@@aliensguy4291 then the wiki needs to be updated...

[@evanabbott2737]

Holy shit..🤔

[@terrismith9095]

@@SowiesoSchon No.

[@CarnorJast1138]

This was such an underrated movie! I'm not sure what critics wanted, but for me, an avid TRON fanatic, I fell in love with this movie! I admit, I tried too hard upon first viewing of the film to compare it to the original, and that was wrong. When I subsequently watched it WITHOUT trying to make every little comparison, I found a very fun, visually stunning, and musically fantastic movie! The acting was far better as well! And oh, I LOOOOOOVE Olivia Wilde as Quorra! Great character played by a talented and beautiful actress! Garrett Hedlund and Jeff Bridges were perfect on screen as father and son. And the somewhat minor part, but still excellent character was that of Michael Sheen as Castor! Completely stole the scenes he was in and made that character, though flawed and eventually derezzed, totally memorable and one of Legacy's best characters! I so badly want Disney to make TRON 3, but alas, this IS Disney we are talking about, so any chance of that is null and void.

[@grimmjowespada2422]

Of course, he was underestimated, we usually underestimate what we have because we have seen similar movies hundreds of times in retrospect and the changes that have taken place this movie is even better than on the day of its premiere. It was created at a time when Disney and other film studios did not ruin all movies with the propaganda we know today.

[@sclogse1]

It's very simple. Just re-release it in Imax again. No need to make another. They nailed it big time with this. You couldn't ask for better games or bikes, and this is the best Imax experience I ever had, including Blade 2049 and Avatar.

[@KizaruB]

I do think Garrett was well cast as a son of Jeff Bridges. He definitely has a similar look. They’re both tall, have blue eyes, and have light brown hair. However, the dude needs to inflect more in his sentences. Very monotone.

[@maggondatreides4783]

Disney's like undead or something

[@maggondatreides4783]

As in Disney lost it's soul

[@LtScarecrow87]

It’s taken me seven fuxking years to realize that Jeff Bridges made a WarGames reference... Please confiscate my old pop culture nerd ID and collection of 80s-90s VHS tapes

[@UniversoCrossoverOficial]

So, no one is gonna talk about how that scenario looks amazing? i mean, when i watched this movie, all i wanted was a house or a bedroom similar to Flynn's hideout.

[@KizaruB]

The director had a background in architecture and I think he did commercials. He definitely knows how to lead a visually pleasing production.

[@Noone-qw2xs]

His father understood. That ALL the evil and darkness in his heart and mind, that's clue

[@drupadbaiju5166]

1:16 Kevin Flynn was talking about a Revolution, he was talking about the Uprising! Honestly if Tron Uprising had a season 2 we would've seen Kevin Flynn being a part of the revolution

[@joethomas1775]

That was a great show. I enjoyed it very much.

[@drupadbaiju5166]

@@joethomas1775 Exactly! We all did! Disney is not doing any justice to the series as well as the fans...

[@KizaruB]

@@drupadbaiju5166 probably because we’re a minority of their paying audience. They follow the money. The main spenders only consume Marvel and Star Wars and Simpsons.

[@leolizard3152]

I’m still wondering why they didn’t call it TRON: Revolution.

[@KizaruB]

@@leolizard3152 would’ve sounded too similar to Tron Evolution

[@dannygonzales7209]

Kevin Flynn was right CLU is smart evil plans he waiting for him.

[@adaptivelearner6162]

One thing I think this movie would’ve benefitted from is having Sam Flynn explore the grid on his own. Imagine seeing every weird and intricate part of the amazing world of Tron from an outsiders perspective it would’ve really opened up endless possibilities and destinations for the story to arrive to. I would’ve liked to have seen the resistance Kevin Flynn was talking about maybe Sam could’ve bumped into them along his journey in the grid and, then at the end of the movie he could’ve found his father. All I’m saying is I would’ve liked to explore more of the grid than we originally got to. I still like the movie though, it would’ve significantly benefitted from a series instead.

[@zvproduction4740]

the "exploring" part would make the movie too similar to the first movie and tron does have a series called Tron: Uprising, the events of the series is set between the first & the second movie

[@adaptivelearner6162]

@@zvproduction4740 I know but, Tron uprising ended on a cliff hanger so we're left unfulfilled. Without a proper ending that would see exactly how Tron became Rinzler and weather Beck survived or not. So we do need a new series regardless but, what I meant was a series where we explore the grid from Sam Flynn's perspective a 10 episode series would suffice and as for being similar to the original movie I highly doubt that would be the case as it was releaded in 1982 which was 28 years before Tron legacy and now 38 years since it's 2020 I imagine they can do a lot more with the story now.

[@rockinredreaper346]

Programs have been dissapearing, it's Unrest out there. A revolution Wow. Loved that uprising reference.

[@stephanearthaud8308]

"It's amazing how productive doing nothing can be." (Felix the cat)

[@NeilSimon_]

Tron is a masterpiece

[@NexusEvent_Studios]

bro this man flynn literally referenced tron uprising in this scene by talking about how programs have been disappearing all over the grid.

[@Noone-qw2xs]

CLUE, would've been THE next Adolf Hitler to our macro verse

[@superman0764]

Kevin's right the only to win is not to play

[@Meg_Lovegood]

That's great Eric D mitchell, keep telling yourself that.

[@superman0764]

13th Evergreen I will

[@RoosterMontgomery]

WarGames rule.

[@weazz]

you still lose in war if you choose not to engage

[@kaylons]

The WarGames principle in a nutshell: futility.

[@Creasy5678]

I really enjoyed this film. It wasn't brilliant by any means, but it was an absolutely solid follow-on from a 28 year-old film where most of the action took place INSIDE a computer. Also, you see here how tired Kevin Flynn is-he's desperate to get back to his world, but he'll die on the Grid before risking his son. But Sam's right-doing nothing by default is no way to live...

[@TheEnderBand]

The grid is sweet looking but being there for like 30 years would be kind of depressing- how do you get vitamin D? No damn sunlight

[@KizaruB]

He’s actually been there for 1000 cycles (years) in Grid time

[@KizaruB]

Nocturne is such an underrated song.

[@amangham7]

Sam is being so reckless. Lol “that’s a hell of a way to live”, like his dad is hiding out here because he’s a coward, not because he’s TRYING TO SAVE THE FLIPPING WORLD

[@ryankwon8785]

I think Kevin Flynn knows about the revolution in Argus City by Tron's successor: Beck.

[@NUSORCA]

If I was Flynn, once I got out I’d erase all archive data and build another grid without foolish cloning

[@KizaruB]

Why would he erase all the archive data? What if there were still some hidden ISOs in the world? He wouldn’t just throw away his life’s work.

[@samuelbishop3316]

Kill all the sentient beings in the grid?

[@jayshreepatil3799]

1:18 revolution, he is referring to the one that started at the end of tron : uprising

[@seyumaiayami3536]

I thought uprising came after this movie?

[@Raikeran]

​@seyumaiayami3536 it released after Tron: Legacy but it served as a prequel to this movie. it was supposed to detail how programs started an uprising under Clu's rule but the show had since been canceled

[@narbacularblu6779]

2:21 Ouch.

[@shivaschimera6101]

I fear not, the sharp and powerful energies of our infinite universe. I have felt them to the core of my soul.... and some of these waves are powerful enough to split the central sun in 2. What I fear is humanity will not understand the importance of their form. The light cycle is real. The earth has multiple layer's of miraculous event's, these hand's of those divine's control the inner gears of these layers we know as universal alignment's of mass and energy, This allow's for very strange thing's to occur....a paranormal form that bend both space and time on earth. It is a power that need's to be wielded like a soft fabric...very delicate in every number and calculation, Yet vast and infanous in it's sum's...and very very hidden to shield eye's from it's painful views. In the end. All thing's will be revealed. If dirt were were transparent....could you face the observance of the Earth's core beneath your feet? I have seen this as a Well.! It's an Abyss!!!!!..a darkness you cannot contend with, where great and mighty being's shelter you from it's....fearful form.... 1000 miles + of transparent dirt beneath your feet.. Would you want to see that far through wall's? Can you even imagine if this were to be revealed to all men at once? The pandamonium that would ensue. A different atomic property that is locked behind the key's of angelic beings and their mighty waves. In the beginning the earth was like a black sphere of void. This is his realm.... I have a question for God. Are you creating an expanse? Or must we learn to live with alotted space?

[@s-t-a-n]

how do you know all of this?😲

[@docwill5056]

What inspired this?

[@oson1543]

Kevin Flynn & Sam Flynn: Father & Son

[@jessicarenehefleydempster6624]

THE PERFECT CREATION TO CREATOR TO BE NEVER SEEN AS NOTHING AS EVERYTHING JE IS AS WAS AS ALWAYS ARE I AM ALWAYS ABOVE THEE AS THY OWNSELF.

[@thededman5054]

sometimes life has a way of moving you past things like wants and hopes

[@jayshreepatil3799]

So Kevin fears Clu getting out, but wouldn't Clu just turn into a human or do programs and iso's(quorra) get some sepcial abilities when they get out, the movie never explained that part, what happens when a program gets "undigitized".

[@samuelbishop3316]

They stay programs the same way humans stay human inside the grid. The issue is CLU sees humanity as an imperfection, meaning he would use the Grid's population to war against earth amd shape the universe as he sees fit. Should he get his way.

[@vishnu79]

A millicycle is 8 hours. 8000 hours per cycle. That's 333.34 days per cycle. Flynn has been trapped in the digital world for "thousands (note the plural there) of cycles", according to Quorra during the dinner scene. Assuming that means only 2000 cycles, Flynn has been trapped in the digital world for what equates to over 660,000 days, or exactly 1,825.23 years.

[@arnavbhattacharjee2035]

I'm getting TLJ vibes here...and that's a good thing, cause I liked TLJ... ...yet somehow this is surpassing TLJ in basically every way.

[@bandana933]

Probably because more interesting stuff happens. I like TLJ too, but this is much more action-packed

[@artmienz3077]

Cause Tron Legacy did it better

[@Tobytyty101]

It's probably because this movie only had one plotline to follow. TLJ had to deal with multiple people in multiple situations because of the sheer amount of characters and it became a bit convoluted. I loved TLJ and this film. I think the idea of a hero icon showing a lot of vulnerability and hopelessness is a really good idea.

[@rayo146-x8x]

@@Tobytyty101 It's just a matter of making it believable. RJ had the right idea in mind, but the explanation that goes to it sorta assassinates the character. I too like the idea of the hopeless aged hero too, but not at the expense of who they were when we last left off. After all, if Luke was willing to forgive Anakin, who has slaughtered children and been (reluctantly) complicit in the destruction of a planet, why wouldn't he do the same for his nephew?

[@Tobytyty101]

@@rayo146-x8x I see your point. I liked how Legacy did it a bit better than TLJ. My defense of the matter is that Luke, even after saying countess times that he would not fight Vader, still nearly killed him out of instinct when he threatened Leia. Luke saw that in Ben because Snoke manipulated his thoughts. He would undo every single thing Luke fought for, murder his family, and let the Dark Side rise again. Out of pure instinct, just as he did with Vader, he thought he could put an end to it all, and instantly regretted it, but it was too late. For me it works but I can see why it doesn't for others. I found some things Rian did in that movie to be a bit off but for me the whole Luke thing worked. Once again I agree that Kosinski and the writers pulled it off better in Legacy though. Just my opinion.

[@FootballPro97]

Anyone know the name of the OST that plays here?

[@Ryan-gv7qv]

It’s Nocturne by Daft Punk

[@FootballPro97]

@@Ryan-gv7qv Thank you! I gave up trying to look for it a while back lol.

[@Commander_Raveth]

May i remind you that both of the are named Flynn. The beardman is named Kevin and the hedgehoghead is named Sam Flynn.

[@peterschnabel175]

The guy doesn't like imperfection

[@rylan8046]

Honestly if this was me, i would have let clu leave the grid. He has an army sure, but his technology won't work in the real world. I mean light staffs, light tanks, cycles, planes, that all shatter in one hit won't last a second against a real world army

[@ryanorr4626]

Even if that's true, the issue isn't that he loses, it's how many people die before he does. That would sit squarely on your head if you don't attempt what you know will prevent it.

[@KizaruB]

I don’t even think those ships could run in the real world. The Grid machines don’t abide by Newtonian and Euclidean rules like the real world. Either Clu or the writers didn’t take that into consideration.

[@nonamechong2430]

I think that the reason Kevin Flynn was afraid if Clu enter the real world, he will impose his perfect ideology and become a dictator like Hitler. Our real world has been more interconnected with technology and many real world weapons have imbued with network and cyber technology. Since Clu was a strategist and a copy of younger flynn, who was a programmer , it can be assumed that Clu can manipulated the network into his advantage and plan a worldwide invasion. Imagine like War Games.

[@iamatn3317]

You do know Flynn is their last name right? 😂

[@hothotheat3000]

How exactly would he take over the world if he got out? I never understood that. It was very vague.

[@flanagamer]

Because he was bringing an army with him and would basically kill everyone. He wouldn’t ‘take over’ anything. His goal was genocide just like what he did to the ISOs then he would rule both domains w/ his digital followers.

[@linuslangweg6810]

Looks like dutch van der linde

[@alessandromalinverno7097]

I love this movie, but i still dont understand how clu sent that page? They never explain it

[@matthewdavis9541]

Like same knew the page wasn't sent by his dad.... Give me a break...

[@Meg_Lovegood]

Matthew Davis you and sam are dumb. if you went through all of this, meant with clue, fought in the game's and still thought it was daddy who paged you? then you're thick in the head my dude

[@anthonygumbo2977]

Umm ... how did he know what a “page” is ? Hasn’t he been stuck in here for a long time ?

[@matthewteague623]

they had pagers in the 80's.

[@Mr.Happy7ODSubscribe]

I loved this movie since the first time I saw it. It’s deeply philosophical if you look hard enough. The color scheme is perfection, music on point. 8.5 daft punks out of 10.

[@davidspelling8453]

I'm not going back. My place is here. This world is backwards. I don't belong here.

[@quatamium3134]

old man shirt like starwar!

[@RobertWF42]

How did Clu send the pager message before Sam opened the portal?

[@anthonygumbo2977]

Good question

[@RobertWF42]

@@anthonygumbo2977 I suppose since the Grid must be maintained from power in our world, there is always a link between the two worlds. So perhaps that's how Clu found a way to send the pager message.

[@anthonygumbo2977]

@@RobertWF42 makes sense

[@jacobvanantwerp2001]

Heck, how would CLU even know what a _pager_ is??

[@Thanos_Freakshow795]

If a user's disc is the ticket out of the grid is it just Kevin Flynn's disc or is it also possible for Sam Flynn's disc to active the portal to exit the grid?

[@jacobmosovich]

Would a computer virus to them look like a zombie apocalypse? Lol

[@maggs131]

A virus on the grid would look like snookie skittering around like a cockroach

[@cabnbeeschurgr6440]

Light wall me much want

[@stargazer7644]

Too bad I can't hear any of it.

[@3ormore778]

You use captions mate

[@f1visionary866]

In hindsight the references to Tron Uprising are really cool

[@lisahalvorsen2443]

I have seen this movie many times. So sad they dident make one more

[@jonathanhalloran5350]

Yeah because fuck sound right?

[@agent_277]

Am I the only one who has a "Detroit become human" vibe after watching this?

[@OmegaF77]

"I'm the Dude, man!"

[@greytitude1393]

Scene:good night sam... Subtitles:good night sir...

[@williamnelson5549]

Looooveeee this film

[@muaddib7685]

love this movie

[@live2die843]

Lol

[@live2die843]

😆

[@jakearmitage7811]

The only thing I didn't like about this movie is the guy who's name is the first word of the title barley got any screen time at all, I really wish he would've......Fought.....For.....The User before the last five minutes of the damn movie.

[@farscape1714]

I would like to see what would happen Clu made it topside.

[@peterschnabel175]

Wants ,hope's

[@ibrahimkayikci2146]

can't hear shit

[@ShainalopezShainalopezshainalo]

CEYON MCMCHOPY

[@asianfireflie]

80th comment boring talk

[@kamma44]

The problem with Tron is that its whole universe is not as fleshed out like say Star Wars or something similar? Like what would've happened if the basics, like Clue and his army, did get through the portal. How would they manifest in our world? If Sam bleeds in the digital world then would the basics derezz in the 'real' world? What would become of their machines and weapons? How would they be powered? None of this is even explored.

[@nonamechong2430]

Well, if the third movie is green lit and not cancelled, we can get a chance to see it fleshed out. Same goes to Tron Uprising. Star Wars has its whole universe expanded due it has countless media like spin offs,novels, cartoons,comics, tv shows etc. Tron only has limited media to go on. If the same studio give the same treatment to Tron like Star Wars, Tron will become a massive franchise.

[@tengotengoev4439]

I like this movie a lot actually and would be fun to see a franchise of it

[@shorngilerhand1800]

typical copy no volume

[@edwardgeorge2514]

Would of been cool to seen a 3 third and final film

[@Noone-qw2xs]

If clue got back to our 🌎. IT means ww3

[@vengeance86]

except, we never really see tron

[@KizaruB]

Yup. Quite disappointing that he wasn’t at least a side protagonist. Rinzler just felt like a setup for a sequel to me, where Tron would be redeemed and be one of the main characters. Let’s hope Bruce isn’t too old by the time 3 comes out.

[@northkoreanjesus8476]

Ok but so what he brings a couple thousand programs with fucking sticks and weird sharp frisbees and he think that this poses a threat to the world?

[@matthewteague623]

We never get to see what kind of power Quorra can exert in our world. I suspect it's more than just being stunningly gorgeous. I'm guessing Quorra, and CLU, would be able to exert near total control over most anything that runs any kind of software. Maybe not on day 1? But given time enough to learn how? But realistically, who knows if we'll ever see another chapter in the story. All we can do is speculate without knowing.

[@flanagamer]

Well he and his army would probably be invincible as well so eventually he could kill everyone. Those ‘frisbees’ could decapitate 10 people in half a second 😅🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Noone-qw2xs]

Clue was the next Adolf Hitler