Sam Harris on Joe Rogan | Lex Fridman Podcast Clips

[@LexClips]

Full podcast episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6rVm5qcYsSJms0 Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzbin.info Guest bio: Sam Harris is an author, podcaster, and philosopher.

[@classicalmechanic8914]

How do you know vaccine mitigate severe illness or death if you do not perform double blind test?

[@SamSung-nf6tr]

Rogan was better before.

[@paulzoom489]

"if you could only listen to me long enough" OMG who could listen to this word salad nonsense for that long? LMAO

[@Randyy111]

"there's a way to communicate with humility the uncertainty of things" dude that's incredibly Far from what Rogan did. Or currently does. Joe IS essentially the new age preacher of prosperity gospel. He doesn't have to be. In doing so it doesn't reveal a high caliber of intelligence, and as you've said yourself lex he certainly Isint communicating Accurate information using humility. I hope the future includes lots of accurate fact checking. Ie (vaccination worked, minimum wage was a livable wage before Reagan, Reagan did single handedly kill pensions and good wages in favor of a shitty substitute and concentrated wealth at the very top contributing to the inequality we see today, there is no solid evidence after trials that show ivermectin as a good treatment to covid, ect) hopefully one of the pros to the ai revolution includes something like subtitles but instead of just subtitles it fact checks inaccurate information because lex clearly doesn't enjoy doing that to his buddies.

[@Randyy111]

I agree with Harris. With people like Rogan at the wheel. Next times gonna be ugly as fuck. And hypothetically maybe it is unintentional from the guy. And he just wants to be himself and blabber about things. Unfortunately a large portion of people attached themselves to the guy and live through/by his silly podcast. And therefore next time will still be ugly as fuck.

[@darkoz1692]

Sam is never wrong, he thought he was once but he was mistaken.

[@christopherhartley9640]

😂

[@empoweryou1]

Yea, I still can't get past his melt down on Triggernometry.

[@telljames]

Perfectly said.

[@IAMBARNABAS-777]

😂😂😂

[@dribblesg2]

A great fucking line dude 😂

[@kristenpenn3502]

Agree with Sam. He’s actually quite centrist in a world where people only think based on their tribe. This comment section shows that.

[@Shiggystardust]

Good to find the one sane comment. They all calling Sam arrogant yet don’t disprove anything he said

[@Pinko_Band]

@@Shiggystardust Exactly. Thats what i keep looking for as well

[@La6ino]

Yeah they don’t stick for eachother at all this tribe

[@jamesdemile4181]

He’s extremely leftist when it comes to covid, the vaccine, mandates, etc. and he’s loud about it. When he was proven wrong about the vaccine’s ethics and effectiveness, he responded with what ifs and how it could have been worse. He doesn’t admit his mistakes and that is a huge one that he refuses to admit he was wrong. Instead he argues how he could have been right. He can be centrist because he thinks everything out, but everyone’s ego pulls them to one side or the other at least on certain issues. His ego (and no it’s not good will or caring) pulls him extremely left. Degrasse Tyson type of left where they will argue that morals are a social construct and get into evolution, but then say people have a moral duty to succumb to mandates. And then they’re wrong, but they still contradicted themselves about morality while not admitting they were wrong.

[@AlbertoTorres-wl9mt]

This is exactly how I felt reading some of the comments here. It’s quite sad how people make fun of Sam for making good points.

[@shakthidhasan4544]

Sam does not have all the answers but his thought process is his gift. I love his considered discussions.

[@tor5457]

And the resulting incredible syntax, accomplished manner of speaking.

[@Missusri]

Blessed are those who rely on reasons.

[@markupton1417]

Sam is brainwashed and stupid. He studied being a ninja long enough to teach people to be ninjas. Do you KNOW why there are no ninjas in the UFC? It's because even jocks know it's useless and a waste of time. If Sam is SOOOOO smart...why couldn't he figure it out?

[@josipjonjic9596]

He punching dead horse all the time!

[@markupton1417]

@@shakthidhasan4544 Sam Harris is an idiot suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. The TDS isn't what makes him an idiot. I'll tell you what my proof is. Sam Harris studied ninjitsu...how to be a ninja. He studied long enough to become a ninjitsu teacher...to teach others how to be ninjas. Do you know how many ninjas are in the UFC? Zero. Do you know why there are no ninjas in the UFC? Because even jocks who choose to fight for a living KNOW that ninjitsu is USELESS. But super smart Sam couldn't figure it out.

[@heitorq7795]

When Sam is right, he is right. He also happens to be right, even when he is wrong.

[@Magani79]

lmao

[@dannyrivera2]

I couldn’t have said it better myself.

[@ifanythingwhat9001]

Sam Harris: rule 1, I'm always right. Rule 2, in case I'm wrong, refer to rule 1.

[@FabriceTheArtist]

And even in both of those cases of being right, he is still wrong.

[@trancient]

I’m reading all these comments inferring Sam is wrong. I’m also not seeing what exactly he’s wrong about.

[@pudgywudgy7111]

Lex: Try empathy Sam: No

[@jessewest2109]

Yes

[@YManCyberDude]

I'm still chuckling . . .

[@dougbedard7539]

😂

[@richardfraser7024]

300k unnecessary deaths. That should inculcate empathy

[@trancient]

Try empathy with people who don’t believe in reality nor authority.

[@xentakis]

I’m not a big Sam Harris fan but he’s 100% correct about audience capture.

[@AfroGaz71]

He's subject to that himself.

[@buckchile614]

@@AfroGaz71 I'd say less so, because he allows some people to listen for free

[@xentakis]

@@AfroGaz71 All content creators are subject to it some degree but I don’t think that’s Sam Harris’s main affliction since he actively tries to cull his audience from time to time. I think his main problem is that he takes any shred of criticism so personally that he shuts himself off from other perspectives.

[@tcorourke2007]

​@@AfroGaz71I am chagrined about his TDS and his defense of our obviously corrupt public health institutions. But I feel that he's being very honest about not pandering to his audience. Unfortunately, many were clamoring for the truth.

[@shitmonkyable]

​@@buckchile614Joe Rogan allows everyone to listen for free

[@awn18]

Reading the comments is a lot of fun. Sam is exposing himself to a larger audience, beautiful.

[@dannakessler1327]

Ikr? Finally.

[@rigbyjen]

This is why we shouldn't censor people. Let them expose themselves and their ideas as complete garbage. Their philosophies will be tested by the public, and found wanting.

[@joela.4058]

None of Sam’s ideas are garbage. He doesn’t always get things right but he is indeed a brilliant man and should be listened to

[@stephensehrbrock5613]

Where is he wrong

[@johnkluge3421]

@@stephensehrbrock5613 he was wrong about everything regarding COVID. Rather than admit that, he spends the entire video trying to explain how those who were proven right were really wrong and people like Harris actually right. Where is wrong? Every word he says in this video, including "and" and "the", is the exact opposite of the truth.

[@SchmokinJoe]

"In hindsight I was wrong, but I thought I was right. So at the time, I was right to think I was right."

[@ApplesOranges123]

lol

[@anshathani1987]

And Bret was wrong because he was right then but people didn't know and hence he was wrong. What logic is this?

[@SchmokinJoe]

@@anshathani1987 Now you're getting it!

[@jackeagleeye3453]

@@anshathani1987 Weinstein hasn't been right on anything in a couple of years though lol.

[@anshathani1987]

@@jackeagleeye3453 sam has been? Both may be wrong but sam is very clearly not saying I was wrong inspite it being proven. So arrogant to say others are disingenuous but not introspecting on what he had been doing.

[@chipibetico]

“I just think it makes you look like a douchebag most times.” I love Lex.

[@claytongallagher3367]

This was the statement that Lex is able to say and yet still finely hold the edge without going over. I feel because it’s still coming from a place care and compassion.

[@Aspirintax]

Sam was talking about you. You are the guy who is CONVINCED that he has any idea what he’s talking about.

[@daveohare301]

I thought sams response was pretty good

[@ernierrules5405]

@@daveohare301 sams fanboys do

[@daveohare301]

@@ernierrules5405 or you could argue how his response wasn’t a good point? Though I’m doubting you even gave it much consideration

[@fghijk-x3k]

"The people who think I'm wrong, are wrong." - Sam Harris. Lmao

[@MisterAvila]

There's nothing at stake for Sam Harris. He thinks so highly of himself that he'll be there to reassure himself in the case that his ego doesn't show up.

[@whatsursource]

Yeah fuck context am I right?

[@christianpowerssavesthewor8404]

The question is, what consistent, effective system of justification are any of them using to discern that? This is my wheelhouse: This is the solution to all the miss info, not censorship ( It also happens to be the solution to ALL solvable persistent issues because they all share this foundationally): The Problem: Our cognitive experience is of our cognitive model of reality. We directly experience reality using limited and fallible subjective physical systems of perception to process information to construct our flawed and limited subjective collection of concepts that comprise our cognitive models of objective reality. So, our model of reality is inaccurate; we can hold things that are true as false and false as true (Beliefs). To mitigate this fallibility and better discern which beliefs are actually true (knowledge) from those that are not, we need to apply the same consistent and most effective system of justification, comprised of direct experience, credible testimony, and logic. The application of this system of justification distinguishes our awareness of what is actually true (knowledge) from fantasy and false belief. Most people, PHDs included, cannot articulate how words work; Words work by agreement of use to reference groups of properties in reality (A variant of L.Wiggnetstien's words work by agreement of use to reference). If you cannot articulate (refer to) it verbally or physically, you are unaware of it [you do not know it]). We use words to refer to properties to get others to focus on them with us so we can figure shit out. If we are not using words to make the same references, we literally are not speaking the same language and not focusing on the same properties. It is not the word used that is important; that is arbitrary. It is if the properties we are referring to are true that is important. Do they exist in reality? You see this with the words around the gender issue, and in fact, this is happening with every persistent issue on the planet. Most, even PHDs, cannot articulate how words work or what logic actually is (an objective system of reason that discerns causal and correlative relationships in reality). So, they can't even articulate how words work and fail, along with the rest, to recognize it and therefore fail to properly align cognitive models. Apply that language issue to what system of justification people use to discern knowledge from belief. The masses cannot purposefully articulate what properties comprise this system’s basics, which means they are unaware of it. Consequently, they cannot apply it to mitigate their fallibility in discerning what is actually true (knowledge) from false belief. Not only do they hold different things to be true, but what they hold to be true is less likely to be actually true (knowledge), especially concerning claims made about what lies outside the limits of their direct experience. Therefore, the appeal to their cognitive experience, alone, that is based on what they believe (“Their truth”), is not inherently evidence of what is actually true (knowledge of reality) if there is an objective truth that is discernable using the aforementioned system of justification that disproves it. When people do not hold the same things to be true, that is what it means to be in conflict. Furthermore, due to technology’s exponential increase in the amount of information coming from outside their direct experience (what Sam is worried about), along with the fact that they evolved to use fallible physical systems of perceptions to process information from their limited reference frame of direct experience of the present, coupled with the fact that they are not mitigating it by applying the same system of justification to align beliefs and arrive at knowledge together, the conflict will inherently increase until all institutions fail that are dependant on large scale social cohesion. This will also prevent us from agreeing on if something is an existential threat and prevent us from mitigating it because of our inability to agree (climate change, anyone? Pandemic, anyone?) This is why Sam is worried about the next one. The solution: is not to censor this increased flow of information, empowering those that would misuse it; it is to combine into one subject the subjects of Philosophy of language and logic into epistemology and put it in all schools every semester for 12 years just like core subjects like math. Because all subjects, including all core subjects, are inherently subordinate to the subjects of epistemology, language, and logic. THESE ARE THE CORE OF CORE SUBJECTS. We should teach everyone how words work, then use them to discern the properties that comprise the most consistent, effective system of justification to discern knowledge from false belief. It will better empower them to directly discern credible claims from non-credible claims without relying on being told who is credible by the non-credible. Consequently, it will give the masses the tools to better discern knowledge and disempower and disincentivize the forwarding of false (miss) information. Lex should have me on. I am nobody... but this is my thing. It is the foundation of all conversations and conflicts.

[@missykins3193]

Infuriating

[@amazin7006]

@@missykins3193 Cry about it.

[@gnlout7403]

i distinctly remember sam refusing to even entertain a conversation with bret. could have cleared up a lot of confusion, no?

[@MikeD_]

What's crazy is Brett knows way more on this topic than Sam does. He did then, he does now. Sam can't acknowledge that. He makes Neil deGrasse Tyson seem humble.

[@robertblackwell8611]

​@MikeD apart from all the times in the interview where he admits the reason he doesn't want to talk about COVID is that he doesn't know enough

[@S3NTRY]

@@robertblackwell8611 won't stop him from dragging Brett though

[@Ligierthegreensun]

@@MikeD_ no, he doesn’t. In fact Bret knows less than the average paramedic and the things he says demonstrate that perfectly.

[@timwhite5562]

​@@robertblackwell8611 that's not the problem, the problem is his inability to admit he was wrong, that people hev thought were wrong and were right at the time, and many were right for the right reasons. He frames Bret Weinstein as just taking positions to take positions, which is just a bald face lie. Every one of Weinstein's opinions came with long, detailed scientific reasons as to why they were what they were; I've listened to them myself. That is not how Harris talks about them though. He just refuses to admit he was wrong. Sure, he says here "things have changed and I've changed my mind along with them," but only in the context of not admitting that he had it wrong then, and certainly not to say "yeah I brushed their opinions off, but they were right. Maybe next time I'll listen to them more." All of this is in service of maintaining the idea that even when he was wrong, he was right. He literally says that. That doesn't even start to get into all his earlier talks and debates about how "moral relativism" is an evil and that there are always things that are right, regardless of the times and context, then to go on and defend political and journalistic corruption because it was being done to keep Trump from being reelected. I used to be a big fan of Harris. I paid to subscribe to his podcast and everything. I disagreed with him much of the time, but I knew that he was saying what he said in good faith. Those days are LONG over, and he and good-faith reasoning and debating parted ways a while ago. It's one of those things where it's like "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed." Out of everyone who took a sharp turn from who they were to who they are based on Covid or Trump or whatever, none have disappointed me more than Sam Harris.

[@xyz8512]

I love how Sam always nails it. He has such a great capacity to elucidate an issue.

[@kinggordon8762]

Sam: I'm not mad at Joe because he's so much dumber than me.

[@sprocket5526]

Dont mistake intelligence from being dumb as a door. I have met plenty people who are clearly intelligent, but somehow are still dumber then most people. And Sam is clearly sharp as pencil, but his is so dumb that it is painful to listen to him. Or maybe he just a full blown sociopath and narcissist who is in love with himself and can do no wrong. I can smell that sort of people a mile away, and Sam reeks of it.

[@yoyoma17]

Yeah, and he's acting like Joe can just get out of trouble by his saying he's just a comedian, or a moron. Well Sam could also use some humour or humility as well, but he has to act like he's so knowledgable about all.

[@grolstum211]

@@yoyoma17 Which is completely true. Rogan is a meathead who has uttered some of the most stupid shit ever heard on a podcast ( have you heard his take on US history and democracy?). Check the video where Bill Burr tells Rogan to stfu when he wants to bring the "masks" issue.

[@b.r3228]

Or that he doesn't want to burn that bridge because being on Rogan will boost his subscribers and donations.

[@christophermartin972]

Nailed it

[@nicholassumthing5973]

One of the nice parts about going through the Covid thing is that it has allowed us to see people’s true colors. The inverse to that is that we have been able to see how so many amongst us really think, and it’s scary.

[@taeeererer]

Yeah the GOP and conservatives in general have exposed themselves as completely worthless anti-human anchors that are holding the entire planet back by decades

[@TodKopfstein]

and still others who will not pick a side either way and are marked by either indifference or cowardice

[@tomeggleston367]

@@TodKopfstein you think not having an extreme, polarised perspective can only be explained by cowardice?

[@buckchile614]

Yeah, being recommended to inject bleach and stick a sunlamp up our collective asses by the leader of the Free World was pretty scary

[@sirreginalddukeofchutney234]

We are all apes 🦧 🦍 some of us are more competent and rational and logical than others. But we all make mistakes and we must recognize we are fallible. Show grace when warranted. Question authority when necessary. Gather the facts. Stay humble. Remember that we often don’t know what we don’t know. We apes have a talent for deceiving ourselves.

[@nicolelawrence5177]

I just don’t think he could be more wrong about Bret and Heather. They were my life line during COVID because they were asking the same questions I was asking, bringing in alternative viewpoints, looking over data, and trying to explain it in a digestible way, and they admit their mistakes. I have a lot of trust in them for that very reason. No excuses, we got it wrong, we’re sorry. Although, they haven’t really had to apologize because so far they’ve been pretty spot on. In the end my husband still got vaccinated, I was partially but decided against the second after I had terrible inflammation in my arm for months, and I did not vaccinate my kids because they were in the sweet spot for heart issues. I made those decisions because I was well informed about all of the arguments for and against vaccines. My “expert” pediatrician on the other hand, told me my 15 year old son would die if I didn’t get him vaccinated. I asked him how many healthy 15 year olds had died from COVID. He said he didn’t know. But he was confident that it was enough for him to try to scare the sh&t of me to get my son the shot. Ummm No. If “experts” want trust they must earn it just like Bret and Heather have by doing the above.

[@trevorpullen3199]

The Bret vs. Sm debate ends at this: Bret got many things wrong at the beginning of covid: he was a big lockdown supporter, thought we could eradicate it early and was a huge proponent of masking, even before the CDC started recommending it. He then changed his position on both those things as he learned he was wrong and apologized for getting them wrong. The important thing is that he changed his opinions when he got new information. Sam, on the other hand, developed his narrative early in the pandemic and never waivered from it at all. He just ignores any new evidence that's contrary to his original narrative. So his opinions on covid haven't changed at all. If a person still has the same opinions related to covid after 3 years, they are not to be trusted, at all. Either they're intentionally lying, or biased and desperate to not admit they were wrong because of the backlash so they ignore any information that goes against their opinions. Bret talked about this in one of this podcasts. He basically said it's very difficult and uncomfortable to admit you are wrong to your audience. But, that discomfort is temporary and you'll regain their trust fairly quickly. However, if you don't admit when you got something wrong, your audience will eventually become aware of the dishonesty and you'll lose them entirely. Sam Harris seems afraid to admit defeat with his covid narrative for fear of losing his entire audience. He simply refuses to pull off the band-aid, and he's dug in so deep now, there is no getting out of it.

[@SamtheWarden]

Bret Weinstein 100% caused people to die during covid with his bullshit

[@lukerobins6850]

​@@trevorpullen3199 that was perfect. You nailed it. Well said. 👏👏👏

[@jimmyriggs1229]

I get that our institutions suck right now but Sam is right. We can’t all create our own little Twitter and Google institutions and “do our own research” and then debate with each other. That’s not a reliable and safe way to live in a modern society. It’s ok to challenge the institutions but we must find a way to fix them and trust them again.

[@johnprentice1527]

Amen to that!

[@kylebutler1101]

"We can’t all create our own little Twitter and Google institutions and “do our own research” and then debate with each other." Why not? and who the fuck are you to tell us not to?

[@jimmyriggs1229]

@@kylebutler1101 Kyle Kyle Kyle 😔Didn’t your momma ever teach you?

[@kylebutler1101]

@@jimmyriggs1229 My momma taught me to question everything. Your momma turned you into a slave. I pity you.

[@keithmackenzie7680]

@@kylebutler1101 of course people ultimately can act as if they are experts on every topic, and curate their own news feeds and information sources to say what their guts tell them they should say. But regardless of what the right answer is, there is an objectively best way floating out there somewhere to handle a national emergency which will result in the fewest deaths. If everyone elects to not listen to our institutions and do whatever they want, there are going to be a thousand different responses, and whatever the objectively best approach is will be impossible to implement. So let’s say mRNA vaccines and school closures were objectively not the best way we could’ve handled it… that means not rushing the vaccine and leaning on herd immunity may have been the best way and saved the most lives… and that would only work if there was sufficient buy in from the public to make it work. If half the country stayed home anyway, herd immunity would take twice as long, and more than the minimum # of people possible would die. So the problem here is that our institutions failed us and need to be fixed. It’s not that we don’t need institutions that we can rely on.

[@sheraldhill2728]

That’s the nicest and most thought out way of calling these people grifters as Sam could possibly muster.

[@jz5005]

‘I disagree. I think it just makes you look like a douchebag most of the time’. Lex to Sam Harris, 2023

[@samh8388]

Most EPIC line of this clip!!🤣

[@HarryD738]

@@samh8388 If you want to propagandize, it is. He used the royal "you." He wasn't calling Sam a douchebag.

[@millachipmunk]

@@HarryD738 woooooooooooooshhhhhhh

[@Lastwartipsandtricks]

@@HarryD738 he was definitely letting Sam know he was inside of that “you.” Sam is just to arrogant to realize it.

[@taeeererer]

@@Lastwartipsandtricks That just proves Sam's point. Lex is too braindead to come up with a counter argument using logic so instead he resorts to insults and ad hominems.

[@williambessette5469]

I give Sam credit for showing how he really feels and let the audience decide. My decision very disappointed

[@user-kc5ec1lr1m]

Mine is very sad 😢

[@SLAMBANGO]

I am absolutely flabbergasted. I have no idea Sam Harris was a blithering idiot. But he really is.

[@backpain100]

It's because he's not saying the things that you want him to say. That's like being disappointed in hearing someone saying the earth is round, in the 15th century. You want your truth to be acknowledged, but reality disagree with you. Sam is just a messenger, and a lot of people here are shooting the messenger. And that's just sad.

[@williambessette5469]

@@backpain100 No it is not his message it's the ability to admit when you are wrong. Listen to what Lex asked him, "people look to you to be reasonable and guide them through a tough subject." He failed.

[@amazin7006]

@@user-kc5ec1lr1m Good, cry more trash

[@Mitch-im1dr]

“Even if Brett is right, he is still wrong for being right.” -Sam Harris

[@chadstephens3640]

He was an idiot for this take...horrible logic.

[@pbandre9773]

I think if the answer to “do you feel pressure?” Is as long winded and as nuanced as his was, the answer is yes.

[@amazin7006]

His answer was "no" after that he just explained why the question isn't valuable. He never gave a long winded answer, he was just answering two questions.

[@markmirabella4066]

He had just finished giving examples of when he felt pressured.

[@clintonhummel8776]

Go get a booster jab Sam

[@michaelhudson981]

🤪

[@percilenis8464]

Extremely high IQ comment

[@TJBarnzy]

Sam used to be conceited but now he’s absolutely perfect

[@connorvincent4652]

Best comment.

[@buckchile614]

I love how arrogance triggers the right to no end. It must grate the empty space where the elitist gene should be

[@gregtheegg3576]

@@buckchile614 top tier burn. Similar thought: Those who toss around the "snowflake", implying panic attacks, are most often flying off the handle. Pick a subject like guns they are close to, and make some popcorn. They will go road rage, never seeing the irony. Who's emotional now, cupcake? RAWRRR!!! smh.

[@TheBruce571]

Said a fucking tool lmao

[@jarengillett8822]

I feel like his whole argument comes out to “I’m not wrong and even if I get proven wrong at the time before the data came out I was right so therefore I’m not wrong”

[@bobwallace9753]

Science is the attempt to make the best possible guess based on objective information. At Point A in time the available information is best summarized as Version A. That is the right answer at that point in time. Later new information may appear and the VA answer becomes wrong in part or whole. Sam may well have been right at the time but with hindsight wrong. The continents were fixed in place until data found tectonic plate movement. Early version right until disproven.

[@danielm5161]

wrong about what

[@JBMDCreations]

@@bobwallace9753 agreed. I think legitimately people just can't understand what he's saying apparently. It's pretty straightforward but people seem to think he's doing a cover up. I don't get it.

[@brycepurser9060]

@@bobwallace9753 so when you were lied to on purpose about the lab leak you were right but the people that knew they were being lied to were wrong? Lmao you and Sam should be in the Olympics with your mental gymnastics

[@bobwallace9753]

@@brycepurser9060 No one lied to me. At least no one whose statements carry any weight ford me. Obviously I ignored lying idiots like Trump. Some people claimed that C19 escaped from the lab. That would have been a lie because it was not supported by data. Some people claimed that C19 entered via the wet market. That would have been a lie because it was not supported by data. Had someone said that In Their Opinion C19 came from either the lab or market that would not have been a lie. They were not stating an unsupported fact. It feels to me as if you have a poor handle on logic.

[@DaWozzMan]

Anyone who cannot admit to being wrong cannot be trusted on anything.

[@Shiggystardust]

I’m glad you think Donald trump can’t be trusted and will be voting for desantis

[@DaWozzMan]

@@Shiggystardust I have never supported Trump for various reasons. I am not sure about DeSantis but at least he is a competent Governor. My preferred candidate right now would be Lt Col Tulsi Gabbard. I believe her to be exceptionally competent, brave and patriotic.

[@Shiggystardust]

@@DaWozzMan tulsi would be good if she ever won the nomination but that’s going to be very hard.

[@NWBwana]

The problem with Sam ...Sam explains. 9:13 9:25 the double down. "The errors from the side i blindly believe, ya, thats also the "otherside"'s fault and not an actual problem we caused!"

[@jesse3105]

Brett can't do 100 videos on covid but Sam can talk about Trump ad nauseum

[@duewest9801]

Almost like Harris can criticize Brett just as you're criticizing him now. What a world am I right?

[@S3NTRY]

@@duewest9801 yeah, and you can deflect to protect your beloved.

[@duewest9801]

@S3NTRY pls learn what deflection is so you can stop misusing the word =)

[@S3NTRY]

@@duewest9801 deflection dĭ-flĕk′shən Noun *Deviation or a specified amount of deviation.* Example: you not addressing OP, but doing a "whataboutism" to deviate away from attacking the point directly. Deflection. oh don't worry, I used it correctly. Your posts are the best. So many empty hubristic assertions. But you're a dolt. Daddy SH would be proud.

[@opulenceluxury8548]

During meditation 🧘‍♀️ at an ultra luxury resort, Sam occasionally has a terrible thought that he might be wrong... following Buddhist teachings he pushes them all away and baths in the supreme tranquility of always being right.

[@user-kc5ec1lr1m]

That's exactly what happened. So sad, and creepy even.

[@amazin7006]

​@@user-kc5ec1lr1m Sure it is buddy hahaha. Strange how you people don't see the irony in your words. Instead of addressing what he says and proving him wrong, you resort to this worthless meaningless name-calling and ad hominems because you're intellectually unfit to debunk what he says using logic.

[@girafingo9280]

😂

[@dave9547]

Lol

[@northwoodfalls1403]

This one was infuriating. Absolutely infuriating. What an absolutely monstrous bit of slandering of Bret and Heather. He’s going round and round and elucidating his own shoddy reasoning and his own fear as a motivator and projecting it so intensely onto Bret because Bret is the one that was in a much better “lane” to assess the situation and he was saying all the things Sam didn’t want to be true and did not want to hear. It’s personal for him with Bret. He doesn’t use the same tone or come so personally with anyone else in that group of former friends. This is shameful behaviour. Absolutely outrageous. I’m irate on Bret and Heather’s behalf. His only argument is that he alone knows who the valid voices are and that’s that. Bret and Heather are evolutionary biologists. It’s a natural point of conversation for them. And they didn’t spend 100 episodes talking about just covid. He clearly never listened to the podcasts in full. Holy smokes …. Every time I think I may have found a way to give him some benefit of the doubt, he just goes and demonstrates just how absolutely crazy he’s gone since Trump. I really hope Bret takes the gloves off because Sam no longer deserves any amount of leeway for his past contributions in the intellectual space. Wow. I’ve just been slightly amused at his publicly setting himself on fire up to this point but this was really mean and small and petty and gross.

[@invenixx9208]

Relax, don’t cry

[@filmsretold1]

Yes you were wrong Sam Harris. This clip could have been 2 minutes long. Just say the truth dude.

[@bubbag3176]

Trump is living rent free in this guys head.. I’m not a fan of Trump, but this guy is the epitome of TDS..he references Trump as the source of the problem in each of the shorts I’ve watched from this podcast so far 😂

[@bluff2085]

Sam: Yeah, Bret was right before everyone else, therefore Bret was wrong

[@buckchile614]

I didn't hear that at all

[@mhemadmas]

Sam: We were playing football, and we were up 1-0 back at the time. Lex: but it ended 1-5 to the other team! Sam: yes but at the time we were 1-0. Lex: but you lost eventually, and that what matters. Sam: but back then my team thought we were winning 1-0. 😅

[@Skabanis]

This point exactly spot on. We were on the correct path but we fell off a cliff and got hurt but but they told us this was the right path cause they are evil pricks

[@MrVagif1]

The fact that you don't understand his point is amazing

[@samstits8982]

@@MrVagif1 kids died from this group think. The whole groups immune to covid and we give them a shot that gave me anaphylactic shock. No shot > Shot

[@vimal-cliobconsulting]

​@@MrVagif1 what

[@MrVagif1]

@@Selendeki so what are you saying? From what I understood, his point is that (I'll take the lableak as an example) if you think covid was a lableak having no evidence for that claim, and then it turns out to be true it doesn't mean your rational was good from the get go. Just because you happened to guess right does not mean that thought process is any good.

[@zanecote]

A perfect example of the “Intellect” getting in the way of wisdom. Sam is smart but dense

[@themetanarrative8964]

Dense in what way?

[@sprocket5526]

@@themetanarrative8964 Dont mistake intelligence from being dumb as a door. I have met plenty people who are clearly intelligent, but somehow are still dumber then most people. And Sam is clearly sharp as pencil, but his is so dumb that it is painful to listen to him. Or maybe he just a full blown sociopath and narcissist who is in love with himself and can do no wrong. I can smell that sort of people a mile away, and Sam reeks of it.

[@Ycodexp]

Joe not just pulling “ripcords”, but makes actual corrections when he’s wrong. Sam, you’re just making a list of diminishing cop outs.

[@MrPowerMaxPower]

You don't understand. He can't pull the ripcord and admit he's just a human who makes mistakes because he's an arrogant God

[@lancecantu]

Sam Harris: was I wrong?… Yes. Like Kanye thinking he is right and infallible, Sam doesn’t see how he is/was doing the same thing. Ego is not your amigo Sam, let’s move on

[@ApplesOranges123]

"Ego is not your amigo" LMFAO

[@TheKentuckyNightmare]

There is no defense for the statement, "Joe Rogan is a stand-up comedian." By the very public accounts of his life, he spends most of his time and makes most of his money doing the Joe Rogan Experience podcast. Joe Rogan *was* a stand-up comedian, and he *was* the host of Fear Factor, but since at least 2016, he's been a podcast host.

[@peterfoxall7723]

For an allegedly intelligent bloke, Sam seems to have missed the point that Brett ( and Heather) aren’t still banging on about covid, they are actually “banging on” about the vaccines and their harms and the lack of changes in policy surrounding them

[@Jacckh]

“I am compassionate of people who disagree with me because they are so stupid.”

[@scroopynooperz9051]

"people dumber than me should not be allowed to air their opinions." -Sam Harris xD

[@amazin7006]

@@scroopynooperz9051 He's 100% correct. So based

[@nourishflourishflow]

Sam makes the argument that we need to let the experts lead here, assuming that certain experts, in his opinion, were not up to the task. I believe that Dr. Peter McCullough is the most credentialed and published cardiologist in the world. But Eric Topol is somehow more informed? McCullough is somehow a crackpot? This is just one reason why Sam continues to lose his audience.

[@mikedavid6681]

Mccullough made claims that he couldnt back up with evidence. Thats how you lose your credibility

[@robertvillalobos7083]

Robert Malone is somehow a crackpot also?! How many patents does he hold and what were they for?

[@mikedavid6681]

@@robertvillalobos7083 he doesnt hold patents. Malone feels hes been ignored for his contribution to mrna research so hes gone out of his way to question everything that he apparently contributed too. He has some valid arguments but has also been used to by extreme conspiracy theorists to make claims he has not.

[@DaWozzMan]

​@@mikedavid6681 I'm sorry but 1 minute on Google proves you to be talking nonsense. Robert W Malone has several patents awarded in his name circa 1999/2000 in relation to DNA/RNA transfection etc. The underlying principles of mRNA vaccines.

[@mikedavid6681]

@@DaWozzMan lap it up tinfoil hat man. And why do you think malone is a crusader against technology he contributed heavily to. Because he wants sole credit for the whole field. His patent filings years after he did his research that he is credited for is telling.

[@talshavit1285]

Sam Harris is spot on about Joe Rogan and co, they focus solely on the dangers of wokeness while giving a pass to much more troubling phenomena.

[@the_endgame]

Rogan has gone full boomer with wokeness, stupid cooties folder on his phone, and boomer memes

[@stefanbernhard2710]

Joe is a high school dropout. He doesn't possess the intellect to filter out b.s. or even recognize his own biases. He should stick to elk meat and dmt subject matter.

[@ceeIoc]

What’s the troubling phenomena? Trans ideology is a huge problem and the most significant consequences are still ahead.

[@gedde5703]

​@@ceeIoc You're being deliberately divided by your leaders

[@djfearross4144]

​@@ceeIocbecause he's a sportsman. He knows that being a male has advantages in sport.

[@juliette13101]

His answers are weirdly infuriating. He intellectualizes truth, authority and misinformation to such an extent that he would not be able to understand a flaw in his logic even if it is specifically spelled out for him. Really disappointing I used to love his perspective being different but right now it feels insufferable

[@alexanthony6259]

He has been swimming in ego since his rise a few years ago and has no objectivity (not that he necessarily had it before). Dude is a shill.

[@CaptPicard81]

It's because you disagree with him

[@juliette13101]

@@CaptPicard81 that too but also I really respect his opinion and watched him on and off for years. The fact that at certain points he is making good points but also he is so stuck on not admitting any wrong of himself while calling out others on the way..I thought his perspective and how he debates and thinks is usually still enjoyable even when it’s annoying at times but in these clips it’s different, the defensiveness doesn’t suit a person like him.

[@minpin9230]

“Even if Brett turned out to be right, he had no right to question what he was questioning then.” … seriously?

[@Sidiciousify]

Its called epistemology.

[@the_endgame]

Yea because Bret didn't have any hard data and notice that statement doesn't say Bret was right.

[@the_endgame]

​@@Sidiciousify if you want to up your golf game do you work with a professional golf player or a basketball player?

[@amazin7006]

"EVEN if" meaning Bret was never right.

[@dapetergshow]

I appreciate well reasoned gents like Sam and Lex hashin it out.

[@johndallara3257]

7:38 Sam's is simple overstating here and if you have watched the Bret and Heather both who have talked at length about Co-V-id understand for whatever reason Sam is both wrong and being intentionally smarmy. It's really tough to listen to Sam any longer and that is a loss.

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

If you’ve watched their podcast as an informed person you would know 99% of their claims are hogwash

[@garthmanuel5701]

@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp like what claims exactly?

[@bradspitt3896]

​@@garthmanuel5701 If you don't know you will never know. (sarcasm).

[@garthmanuel5701]

@@bradspitt3896 lol

[@jach707]

Sam makes no mistakes.

[@3bladeninja21]

Even if it turns out he was wrong, he's still right. Legend

[@anthonybradford2065]

Ever... even once... ever

[@i.c.wiener2750]

@@3bladeninja21 Something can be the right thing to do at that time but turns out wrong later.

[@tux1968]

Sam Harris was wrong about Covid, and Bret Weinstein was right. If Sam was an honest and good faith actor, he would today admit that, and accept his mistake unequivocally.

[@vhufeosqap]

Weinstein overstating the danger of vaccines by a lot and overstated thr effectiveness of ivermectin.

[@havefunbesafe]

San Harris is a caricature of Sam Harris.

[@digitalHayes]

Ham Sarris

[@YManCyberDude]

That seems to be the case if it after that one interview for sure . . .

[@mythnlore]

What does that mean?

[@Jakuby21]

Ben Stiller became articulate.

[@len3169]

What an insult to Ben.

[@nikostoifberg]

Sam Harris refuses to be captured left or right. Rare and admirable.

[@gibbopg]

Wow ... living with Covid does not mean never keeping up with what is actually happening relating to Covid. Sam continues to surprise. It actually matters if the 'experts' were steering the ship incorrectly (for whatever reason).

[@tcorourke2007]

His position seems to be that disobeying our obviously corrupt public health institutions is dangerous because what if the next crisis IS actually a threat?

[@bradstewart7007]

@@tcorourke2007 He also takes the probably correct position the at vaccine hesitancy led to ~300K unnecessary deaths in the US.

[@tcorourke2007]

@bradstewart7007 Assuming that to be true AND that vaccines did in fact reduce the severity of the illness as claimed, our public health authorities were recommending the vaccine for people who were at essentially zero risk. Harris was, and still is, recommending we blindly follow their protocols because the mere act of disobeying is dangerous. He continues to use his platform to shore up public trust in our obviously corrupt and inept institutions without ever addressing their failures.

[@capnstems5026]

"The other side was right, but I was secretly right too, and more elegantly so"

[@ApplesOranges123]

LMAO

[@Arcturas66]

The question isn't "was I wrong" the question is did I bother to question and consider that perhaps we don't know enough yet.

[@BlackMatt2k]

"As soon as that [myocardidis] story emerged..." Sam's error with both covid and the laptop is that we can no longer gauge the level uncertainty without accounting for mass censorship. He says this and that was a "forced choice" without inspecting how alternatives were consistently manipulated out of view. Pure logic is easily exploitable without imagination. "I don't know what's behind the curtain" should lead to "Why might there be a curtain?" at least a few times per year, not once per three.

[@elisabethhowse]

There were plenty of peer reviewed papers prior to, on the risks of clots, adverse allergic reactions because of the adjuvants, cytokine storms, and the facial palsy that occured...peer reviewed papers by concerned legitimately qualified people..I wanted to grudgingly like the man for the first ten minutes...he could have just said " that's my opinion, others differ" but there's a deeply held superiority in his own opinion that's making it fucking difficult...and I'm trying to keep an open mind...

[@MrMcwesbrook]

Do you know what story he was referring to? It was unclear to me.

[@elisabethhowse]

@@MrMcwesbrook I think he was referring to the knowledge in general as "that story".. because there were multiple reports and medical papers, so to me it sounds like a turn of phrase.

[@BlackMatt2k]

​@@MrMcwesbrook Age-stratified risk from pokes vs age-stratified risk from virus. US officials/press cited the _average_ from the same papers, while suppressing the fine print about boys until they couldn't. Both stories "broke" simultaneously in reality, but a well-behaved consumer would think one broke much later.

[@MrMcwesbrook]

@@BlackMatt2k thank you

[@FihasiaTshirtStore]

So much humility 😂

[@ApplesOranges123]

lmao

[@Demention94]

Zero

[@martefact]

😆😆😆😆🤣

[@tbaze27]

I just can't fathom how after all we now know about COVID he still defends all the measures we took and just won't ever give an inch when talking about Brett Weinstein

[@CB-zd7gg]

because unfortunately he's a cerebral narcissist.

[@infiniteawareness69]

Sam is a total buzzkill

[@dalelane1948]

Sam on Joe Rogan - “well the thing you have to understand is that Trump is a really bad dude”

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

Understatement but, true

[@jamesbcrombie4105]

We totally knew how negligible the effect of the COVID vaccines on children were at the time...and how low of a risk COVID posed to children.

[@StephenGamboa]

“So convenient a thing it is to be a reasonable creature, since it enables one to find or make a reason for everything one has a mind to do." - Ben Franklin

[@johnkluge3421]

Reason is value neutral. You can reason yourself into any conclusion. You just have to start with the right assumptions. Clever people who are good at reasoning are very prone to ignore that. It is why intellectuals so often end up rationalizing the most monstrous things.

[@johnkluge3421]

@Bill Stevens it has to be valley neutral. A logical system can never prove its own premises. You can logically prove anything, if you start off with the right assumptions. If reason were not value neutral, there would be one right answer to every ethical question and no such thing as a moral dilemma.

[@amazin7006]

​@@johnkluge3421 Then you have to argue on the assumptions/premises, which is Sams entire point in this interview. A bad foundation leads to unsound logic, and people like Bret Weinstein have totally backwards premises (i.e. scientific institutions are wrong, the 1% of researchers are correct over the 99%, some preprint debunked paper is correct over the 1000s of others.) These are all terrible premises that lead to unsound logic and a circular conspiracy theorists sort of world view. For example how can anyone prove that the earth is round if you believe everything any scientific institution like NASA/Roscosmos is incorrect or a lie? What am I supposed to point to? The foundational believe is flawed.

[@johnkluge3421]

@@amazin7006 no one is saying everything the scientific community says is wrong. That is a complete straw man and a perfect example of the sort sophistry Harris engages in. What they are saying is that nothing the scientific community says is above reproach such that it cannot be questioned. That is far different from what Harris is characterizing their arguments.

[@taeeererer]

​@@johnkluge3421 Sam never once said science is above reproach, neither did anyone else. You are the one strawmanning. Science is just a tool/process that consistently leads you to the best answers, it doesn't guarantee that the answer is correct every time. There could be an anomaly in the data, a bad premise, an inaccurate measurement, a flaw in their methodology, a bad peer review, a broken tool etc. This is what retesting, peer review, and retrials are for. The thing is, to disprove science you MUST use science, otherwise it's just borderline religious nonsense. Sam admits that he doesn't know what he doesn't know (i believe at 19:20 in the video?), meanwhile grifting charlatans like Bret, Lex, Rogan, etc. feed into people's delusions and constantly fall for the confirmation bias of conspiracy theories. It's good to be skeptical, but don't be skeptical that you become a schizophrenic person who denies all reality. At that point you are incommunicable.

[@bigjj7017]

Bro....just say you were not as correct as you thought and the people who were skeptical weren't crazy fam like come on man

[@michaelmaye9360]

Sam is either ignorant. Or he is a liar. Sam states at 10:44 that "he didn't know how negligible the risk of Covid to children was". We knew from the onset, as early as April of 2020, that Covid was most dangerous for the elderly. There was never a time when this was not the case.

[@eneveasi]

Sam says he didn’t make it his life yet is so confident in trusting the leaders who very demonstrably lied at almost every step. And then he puts down people who made it their lives to call out just how horribly we are being lied to!!

[@vladrileynavilys]

That's what i was thinking. He says 'accept covid is there and just live with it and its negative implications'. But how about working on shedding the light on the shitshow that brought that situation in the first place? How about checking in depth about the suspicions that some people have profited enormously from it in a way that might have been planned and deliberate? You cant really just let it happen and go on with your life like it was just a tiny bleep, can you?

[@ghoulishcoder5258]

The gov's response was the publics fault? Because we didn't comply? WTF

[@harborwolf22]

How can you not understand that you people who couldnt' be bothered to not to go to the beach for two weeks, or wear a fucking mask in public if you were already coughing and sick, WERE the major issue? Have you literally not looked at data from anywhere else around the world? You just let yourself be informed by Trump and his anti-science piece of trash? Guessing you don't know the death numbers pre and post vaccine either, do you? No... you dont.

[@3bladeninja21]

That doesn't sound authoritarian at all 😀 (Sarcasm)

[@firefly9838]

@@3bladeninja21you gotta get people to cooperate to fight a public health crisis. I know.... crazy idea. How dare you be expected to contribute and not spread diseases. Society expects so much of you.

[@3bladeninja21]

@@firefly9838 ...or else

[@firefly9838]

@@3bladeninja21 or else more innocent people die in a pandemic. It's pretty simple.

[@bh.76]

Wow Imagine Sam and Neil having a conversation together.

[@joshboston2323]

Neil has been on sam’s podcast a couple of times. They disagreed a bit on AI

[@zacharyshort384]

They've not just had podcasts together, they've been on stage together...many times heh. Did you have a particular conversation in mind?

[@bh.76]

@@zacharyshort384 it was more that they both think they are the smartest men alive and would constantly talk over each other and would never admit they wrong about anything...lol.

[@zacharyshort384]

@@bh.76 Well, in that case, you're demonstrably wrong. Ironic, you apparently know so much about both of them but were ignorant of their many appearances together over many years. It's almost as if you don't actually know what you're talking... but I get the impression you would never admit that ;)

[@bh.76]

@@zacharyshort384 bahahahaha I know nothing mate. But I will always admit when I'm wrong and I'll always listen to others opinions without talking over them. Not sure why your so triggered over this. 🤔

[@benfoy9054]

Lost all respect with Sam. He’s such selfish arrogant person. The data was out there he just didn’t care to learn it. That’s where he screwed up

[@garthmanuel5701]

100% - the facts has not changed...as he claims

[@60westpro]

What he’s saying is - Yes the data was out there but it didn’t make it fact -- it’s very basic but I can see how people can complicate this -- 2 things can be true at the same time

[@benfoy9054]

@@60westpro it’s not just about who’s right or who’s wrong, it’s shaming the people who had the other data. If he said I probably should of been more open minded and listened to the other side more, I wouldn’t have a problem. Instead he is just trying to save face.

[@garthmanuel5701]

@@60westpro the data was out there 40 years ago, they were going against established data, thats why peeops had their ears up

[@60westpro]

@@benfoy9054 I agree it’s the type of discourse we have that makes this shit way more toxic - too many dumb morherfuckers who frustrate and make it hard to have real discussions

[@alexb8560]

sam is so humble

[@EmbodyTaiChi]

Good one!

[@jessewallace12able]

He’s right. When Covid first broke out in 2020, I had an extremely healthy friend (a former NFL player) who I worked with die within a month of getting it. I had another friend, a fitness expert, almost die a couple weeks later. It was insane.

[@stefanbas6181]

My best friends mom was a nurse she caught COVID The doctors pumped her full of antibiotics and whatever else Wrecked her kidneys she refused further treatment knowing she had zero chance Hospital recorded her a COVID death when she died from antibiotics That's just one case

[@neilmerchant2796]

​@@stefanbas6181Wait this is clearly satire right?

[@stefanbas6181]

Nah

[@PhreakPhantom]

I'm obese, not morbidly. But obese. Got covid on e in 2020 and twice in 2022. Not vaxxed. Here I am, did all my exams. Nothing.

[@stefanbas6181]

Sam Harris is someone who can move from one field of science to another. He just wants everyone to be considerate enough to allow the heroes like big pharma to dictate when it's appropriate time to give up all your rights! Cause it's not about money it's about the good of mankind! So don't be difficult. Sam Harris can go blow himself...

[@mikesmith542]

He was so wrong about Covid it's ridiculous and yet he just keeps doubling-down. It blows my mind. People genuinely do forgive people who show some remorse.

[@dashphonemail]

And similarly, people genuinely do view people who can admit mistakes and errors as more intelligent and wise.

[@trancient]

Who was more wrong? Sam, Drumpf, or your mother?

[@jeremyashcraft2053]

But if Sam were to admit he was wrong on COVID, he would have to admit the sources he relies on are questionable, which would force him to consider the possibility a large portion of his world view is completely inaccurate. There's way more at stake here in Sam's world.

[@MrCManfredi]

What was he wrong about?

[@dbesson]

This guy needs to read this or be reminded of this - “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” ― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

[@user-kc5ec1lr1m]

He seems too far gone to be brought back by that, sadly enough 😢

[@superturkle]

is sam harris just the philosopher version of kanye west?

[@TAAtoday]

Sam Harris is one of the smartest dummies I can think of

[@danielm5161]

Sam just doesn't spoon feed a specific portion of his audience the way Peterson and Bret do.

[@LostSoulAscension]

@@danielm5161 when you see the number of comments worshiping how Sam is never wrong on this video, you can likely and safely say that is false. Sam tries to be interesting, which isn't wrong, lmao, but sometimes it's at the cost of actually being philosophically wrong, which he seems to be too far in his intellectualism to fully understand, one example would be that I disagree with him on his opinion of Lex interviewing Kanye, and that you can actually make valid arguments as to why it was constructive for Lex to do so, yet Sam is almost unyielding in his view on that part of the convo, which actually surprises me when I see so many people hail Sam as an intellectual, yet someone like him is unable to see things from the multi varied view Lex is trying to bring out of Sam.

[@stevievictory9164]

I don't know how to articulate this... But the weight of Ye's ego feels hella light compared to my boy here lol.

[@NebuChadNezzarKBDN]

Sam is one of the most rational, educated, critical thinkers of our time.

[@ryannorman8898]

Sam Harris looks a lot different than the last time I saw him. Obviously age plays a role but he honestly looks stressed out. Hope he is ok. I disagree with him but I respect him

[@jonjaime]

He's tethering on the brink of insanity. He knows that a lot of his admirers and followers have turned on him and his ego can't take it.

[@jackm3827]

Gee whiz. The man is 55 years old. I think he looks pretty good for that age. May the lord have mercy on your soul as you get older Ryan

[@Exception1]

You think you won't get old!?

[@ryannorman8898]

@@jackm3827 I don’t think it’s just age tho. I got greys bro. I’m almost 40. The thing is i just feel like he looks really stressed out. I like Sam Harris a lot, I just don’t understand why he was acting the way he was about the whole Kanye interview. I thought Lex did great. But ya maybe it’s just age lol my bad

[@ryannorman8898]

@@jackm3827 oh shit I almost forgot, if there is a god Sam Harris is probably more screwed than me hahahaha jk. If the “lord” sends a good man like him to hell I want nothing to do with that thing

[@BroFest89]

"If I had boys I would be more open to rational thought concerning how my opinions endanger their lives...but I don't, so fuck em"

[@mikeymike2195]

Kinda like I don’t have a life threatening illness so I won’t bother to wear a mask. Hence…. fuck em

[@bigjj7017]

Or "but I don't so you're wrong and irrational"

[@johnlittle3430]

If you're dumb enough to have arrived at this blatant distortion, you're welcome to it! Have fun splicing together you're next out-of-context Sam Harris supercut.

[@justgivemethetruth]

I like Sam Harris. Much more than Joe Rogan who likes to make an interesting show, but never seems to learn anything.

[@CreationInEmotion]

lack of curiosity on Sam’s part is such a downfall for otherwise decent mind.

[@dashphonemail]

Not sure if it's lack of curiosity, or just ego. I think he's happy to learn new things, as long he doesn't learn he's ever been wrong about anything

[@johnlittle3430]

Only imbeciles are curious about misinformation and quackery. This is why your comment is laughable on its face. I know the Rogan/Weinstein simps have forgotten all about Hitchens' Razor, but smart people haven't. It cuts as straight and true as it ever did when Hitch was still alive. My god, I wish he'd been around for the Trump presidency. You imbeciles would have been tarring and feathering him with even more ignorant gusto than you did Harris.

[@CreationInEmotion]

@@dashphonemail I think it’s curiosity thats antidote for this kind of ego …. Pure genuine curiosity about the world and it’s people…..

[@notarobot6709]

When Lex asks Sam to reflect on himself and his stance on Covid Sam seems to get lost chasing his own thoughts without ever really getting to a finite point. He simultaneously acknowledges that Bret (and others) were correct about various elements surrounding Covid - but then outright states that it doesn't count and backs it up with more sophistry and circular arguments. He speaks as though his awareness of something like "audience capture" prevents him from being tricked and that his own perceptions must be accurate. Instead of Sam accepting that he doesn't know everything and then seek out understanding, he chooses to remain obstinate in his mal-formed conclusions DESPITE the evidence. Sam's problem seems to be that he is too smart for his own good (and others) - his ego and hubris allows for him to lie to himself so that he doesn't have to accept the premise that his own perspective might be flawed on these matters. IE: Sam thinks a lot and therefor is correct - even if he is proven wrong.

[@S3NTRY]

Very well said

[@seancollins-cruz2134]

I love how he talks about the opportunity cost concept, and then gives a scenario well outside the topic at hand. Totally skates around the idea that an unprecedented pandemic that nobody was prepared for, in which the scientific community was learning new information on a daily basis, was actually the perfect opportunity for measured, empathetic, and informative communication. 😩

[@ner0p]

Whereas Sam Harris skates around the fact that the scientific community was learning new information on a daily basis.

[@tcorourke2007]

Great comment. Sometimes, a person being profoundly wrong is the only way to see the true extent of their rhetorical skill.

[@davewilliams283]

Nails on a chalkboard>>>listening to Sam Harris talk

[@klasu2053]

Good! At least you're facing your fear of listening to people you disagree with.

[@davewilliams283]

@@klasu2053 I agree with Sam on some things he’s just brutal to listen to

[@klasu2053]

@@davewilliams283 Fair enough, I respect that. 👍

[@blazsoldo5716]

It’s funny how people who preach the befits of meditation and psychedelics in order to loose the ego, have the biggest egos and can’t let go.

[@trustindustin]

He needs a 5 gram mushroom trip in a dark room, and we'll see where his ego is after that...

[@Optable]

Just the false ones. The ones with deep issues they *think* are out of their control then break under pressure from their very own truth inside. Then continue to reason with their deeply flawed thinking that their way is truly better than thou, this must be reality because their own rose tinted glasses tell them so. They are the prophet of right. When they didn't take a step back to realize that being the most right in every situation is the most off-putting way to take part of every single human experience. Constantly seeking the next moment without enjoying what's right in front of them. Ending up facing the fact that they've never had a real experience within the present moment. Then wondering why or how they got there.

[@ApplesOranges123]

spot-on

[@sjandrews]

I'm with Sam here. We can't be patient with every uninformed conspiracy theory. Despite persistently saying he is neutral, Lex panders to the right.

[@1247.cccccc]

He is simply wrong about the prior consensus to pandemic response. Covid19 was a profit seeking exercise that has enriched and empowered the prime movers. Sam is an obedient promoter with a job to do and bosses to please.

[@mikeochoa8234]

1:20 This is the nicest way I’ve ever heard someone call someone else a dumb ass.

[@chloegrobler4275]

no, he was being descriptive. joe rogan does do exactly what sam described. he is a wide reach entertainer, pulling views from all over, and thats its own niche that joe does well in. problem is he DOES open himself uncritically to shitty ideas that are given power, because of his audience size.

[@mikeochoa8234]

@@chloegrobler4275 oh, you didn’t hear what he was actually saying?

[@chloegrobler4275]

@@mikeochoa8234 i heard what came out of his mouth. sam was being fair in his description of joe rogan. how many people have died because they took what joe said about covid at face value. i bet that doesnt keep him up at night.

[@noelsplectrum9]

He was being very sly in his put down.

[@chloegrobler4275]

@@noelsplectrum9 and i dont think that was his intention. sam isnt an asshole, he at least tries to calmly explain himself and i think that is admirable in a person.

[@bigding8977]

These comments are more entertaining than the actual conversation.

[@joshkuli3318]

Sam Harris is basically saying, “Even if Bret is proven right, he was still wrong and I’m still right.”

[@the_endgame]

Nah he's just saying Bret was throwing spaghetti at the wall. Some of it may stick but in the end it's still a guy throwing spaghetti at the wall.

[@WholesalewithJoe]

@@the_endgame but that’s not what happened. Brett did his research and a lot of it was right

[@the_endgame]

@@WholesalewithJoe "a lot of it was right" = spaghetti at the wall. Responsible and reasonable researchers/scientists do not publish or disseminate info without proof.

[@critharchie8043]

@@WholesalewithJoethis is a logical fallacy. “A lot of it was proven right” means it wasn’t proved by Bret, he hypothesized and some of the spaghetti stuck. I think Sam is arrogant but he’s obviously right about much of Bret-he’s entirely captured by Covid hysteria

[@crab6084]

no hes saying that even if bret is proven right, his actions are still irrational and stupid. If someone brings a raincoat to the middle of the sahara desert and magically it starts raining, the guy was not "right" for that action. He still acted stupidly, but just got lucky.

[@stingray427man]

Love how he discredits Brett, but yet he is vague on the facts. Its just his belief because he doesn’t want alternative theories. Sam is like the guy that thinks there is only 1 way to do things or there is only 1 way to get to the endgame and I got news for you its his way, not your way.

[@yoyoma17]

Yep. And asking how Brett could do 100 podcasts on probably the biggest event of the century is just so dismissive and disingenuous. And he is utterly ignorant on Ivermectin. It's actually pretty embarassing. Not sure why Lex didn't come more prepared to call him out on this.

[@stingray427man]

@@yoyoma17 Im really hoping Sam does JRE cause Joe will call out his BS directly, not passively like Lex

[@adeadgirl13]

It's not about who was right about covid and vaccines and who was wrong. It's that Sam Harris did not want opinions to be aired and talked about that he disagreed with. And that's just wrong.

[@aa1greg]

Sam's the smartest person in his own mind

[@dnajournal4321]

He's got legions of blind followers that would like Sam Harris leave a steaming pile number 2 on them.

[@TheKlutchsletsplays]

Nah, this is just what someone who can't understand arguments with a hint of nuance would think

[@allstarreject]

4:25 Sam describes himself without any self awareness.

[@elizabethaleman117]

I just got to that part when I saw your comment and was agape

[@countchoc90]

Even if Brett is ultimately right, he's wrong in the moment. Jesus...

[@the_endgame]

"Even if what Bret said turned out to be true"... Sam didn't say he was ultimately right he actually didn't say either way.

[@jonathangrunstein-ks2dz]

I love listening to Harris, even when we disagree. I do however think his approach to covid and not having a discussion with people like Bret was both arrogant and harmful. Thousands and thousands of people may have died simply because they went along with Ivermectin on Bret's show without being able to be exposed to opposing views by genuine truth-seekers like Sam. I went along with Bret down that rabbithole for quite a while, until the Rebel Wisdom podcast played the role Sam traditionally has played in conversation. and I think for many people his lack of open dialogue on covid was a net minus. Even if he simply had Topol and Bret on together as one conversation..... his unwillingness to speak to the 'other side' IMHO, did a lot of harm to many people.....

[@carloscarmonajr1]

Lex: Within your own ego.. Sam: 🕺

[@davidwebster7179]

I didn’t know who Sam was a few weeks ago, but now I understand why.

[@itzamnapga]

Sam, as always, exudes extreme confidence. His mind is brilliant and he articulates his points very well. The problem is that, before anything, he is a narcissist and appears to be completely oblivious to it. At some point in life, everyone is forced to eat crow - it teaches us humility and empathy for others and helps us to realize that no one is perfect. If your ego is too large to ever admit fault or error, then, just like Sam, you are truly a prisoner of your own mind...

[@briste842]

You don't sound all that likable either. I imagine you've already eaten crow and know full well how to be humble and empathetic.... ironic aspie.

[@Casual_Monday]

Sam says a lot without saying anything. I really appreciate the way Lex has these conversations though.

[@logan5973]

He is great at making me like trump

[@issness]

How so

[@claytondesmond8905]

Ur neckbeard lets everyone know u love trump

[@Sh0rtsYT]

@@issness Sam is a perfect example of the left’s irrational hatred on Trump, he’s a perfect example of Trump derangement syndrome. Half of what he claims is abhorrent about Trump isn’t based in truth, the other half is equally true of Trump as it is/ was Obama/ Clinton/ Biden and so on.

[@coolbugfacts1234]

you are great at not having the capacity of higher reasoning

[@jessewest2109]

​@@coolbugfacts1234 this conclusion based on one KZbin comment is pretty fuckin funny. Lol

[@asultansdemise]

There is something missing in Sam probably allowed him to focus and seem so smart for so long but really something is dead [NPC] deep inside of him... logic built on limited data

[@skepticalhippo6376]

So Sam,,,, when you hear the words “Safe & Effective” when you know damn well that it couldn’t possibly be, that immediately erodes confidence in anything else that comes from that same institution.