Sam's Top 10 Games from Fantasy Flight Games

[@holywarriorbear7720]

I'm somewhat disappointed that there wasn't any other Terrinoth games on this list, except Dragonholt, which is awesome. But where's Runebound? Descent? Rune Age? Heroes of Terrimoth? Rune Wars?

[@natelinhart114]

Happy Easter to all of The Dice Tower! Hope ya'll had a wonderful day!

[@TheRmm1976]

10. Legacy of Dragonholt 9. Mansions of Madness (2nd ed) 8. Cosmic Encounter 7. Age of War 6. Fury of Dracula (3rd ed) 5. Tannhauser 4. Mission: Red Planet (2nd ed) 3. Battlestar Galactica 2. Star Wars: Rebellion 1. Twilight Imperium (4th ed)

[@juanpablozabala4975]

I still can't get why Sam likes Age of War...

[@TheRmm1976]

@@juanpablozabala4975 I think it's a pretty good "light" game and it's inexpensive... But yeah, certainly not in my top 10 FFG over the likes of Eldritch or Arkham Horror!

[@mikec5563]

He wasn't certain he could put together ten games, when eight of them are in his Top 100. Ha!

[@shaneannigans]

Surprised not to see Battlelore 2nd Edition in this list! Hard to find a copy these days but a great, light war/skirmish game with a tonne of content in the core box!!

[@holywarriorbear7720]

And he's missing few other Terrinoth games IMO on that list

[@markpapenfuss1111]

Not to mention he’s a huge Memoir fan and it plays with that similar C&C concept.

[@mtillem]

Where's Star Wars: X-Wing, Imperial Assault and Legion? All such great games!

[@robo3007]

No Forbidden Stars? You should totally check it out if you haven't already, the amount of strategy in that game is mind blowing - yet it somehow still feels simple to play!

[@dustinboatman6134]

He has not only checked it out, but has a live playthrough he did with Tom on their channel.

[@davidandersson7642]

Sam doesn't like the downtime during combat.

[@dustinboatman6134]

@@davidandersson7642 crazy, because it's some of the best dice combat ever.

[@davidpeterson5179]

Thanks Sam hope we can get a game in at Dice Tower Con again.

[@bharatthebrat]

i always get confused between sams and zees dice tower cartoon picture

[@TheDarktater]

1. Eldritch Horror 2. Star Wars Rebellion 3. LOTR: LCG 4. Imperial Assault 5. AGoT: LCG 6. Twilight Imperium 7. Forbidden Stars 8. X-Wing/Armada 9. Elder Sign 10. Battlestar Galactica (only have one partial play, suspecting this will eventually be higher on the list)

[@blakecurry3880]

I would have placed Mansions quite a bit higher. I'm curious as to where the new LOTR Journeys in Middle Earth would land as that just came out.

[@roberthermosillo5727]

Great succinct descriptions of some heavy-hitting games. No love for Imperial Assault?

[@KnightofAges]

Imperial Assault has... problems. If the Imperial player isn't nice, the rebels have no chance. And some scenarios have really BAD rules (like being able to spawn stormtroppers right in front of every rebel every turn, which makes them extremely unpleasant).

[@1AngelAlita]

@@KnightofAges It has also awesome skirmish system and an app for coop play.. your problems concern only one part of the game..

[@alcovitch]

no Descent 2e or Imperial Assault?

[@daveidburean6688]

Imperial assault is my favorite game of all time!

[@kofvscapcom]

you guys should finish that Legacy of Dragonholt playthrough

[@pokemonoldschool]

Tanhauser is that rare?! I pick up the base game and expansion from half price a few years back!

[@markbrandon5408]

Would have been good to intercut some board/piece shots during the presentation 😁

[@Steve-L]

1. Mission: Red Planet (Second Edition): I was able to beta test this game and really enjoy it. A really fun game! 2. Cosmic Encounter: I have only played the game twice, and really like it. I really need to play it more and think it will rise up more to my liking. 3. Relic: This is Talisman in space, but with updated rules, based on Warhammer 40k. I am not fan of the theme, but is generic enough that I enjoy the sci-fi of it. 4. Wiz-War (eighth edition): I have played this a handful of time and like it. It isn't amazing, but is enjoyable and have considered buying it at times. 5. Talisman (Revised 4th Edition): Talisman was my 1st non-mass market game, and I found it back in the 80's. I have recently sold my copy, as I was only playing it 1-2 times a year because it takes so long to play. I still enjoy it, but prefer playing other games more because of it's length. The game was very valuable because it was between printings and got more money for it than than I paid for it, not even counting the years of fun I had with it. 6. Deadwood: Perhaps my 1st worker placement game, based on the Old West. It is has fallen for me, and is too simple, and a bit less refined as a game than I like, there is something missing in it for me, but it's okay, but I used to like it more. 7. Kingsburg: At one time I had thought and believed I would enjoy this more than Alien Frontiers, which it is often compared to, as I enjoy the fantasy theme more (or at least I used to) but i didn't. I find the game okay at best, while I love Alien Frontiers. I will play Kingsburg, but will never request it. 8. Lord of the Rings coop game: Before I was a board gamer, I owned and played this because I was a LoR fan. I don't play this any more, or haven't in awhile, but would consider it. It is a decent game. 9. Battlestar Galactica: The Board Game - I have played this 2 times and liked it. But it is way too long for what it is, and doubt I will ever play it again, I sold my copy. Thankfully, Tom mentioned it in a video of it's value and I was able to get a great price for it. It is thematic, and was decently fun, but way too long for me. 10. Runebound (Second Edition) - I thought this game had a chance to replace Talisman, and while I liked it, it was too long for 4+ players even though Talisman is longer, just had less patience for it with more than 3 players. I did like the game, though, and I had a few expansions. But my tastes have changed and really don't play fantasy games at all any more, so even with 3 players this won't get played by me any more.

[@mirykleofficial]

Awesome work Sam!

[@rmcdaniel2424]

No mention of their post popular games? Star Wars Legions and Xwings?

[@joelblom1388]

How could not arkham horror the card game be in this list? It is a bard game made of cards...-... and a rpg made of cards.... and a cardgame made of cards ;) With fantastic storytelling and game mechanics

[@moppimoopenheimer8502]

I was hoping all the way up to Number 1 for Sid Meyer's Civilization, but I must have been missed it.

[@Skarpo89]

Nice list, didn't know that you didn't care for Descent that much. I've wanted to try TI for a loong time now but it's so difficult to find people willing to spend that many hours into a single game.

[@TheRmm1976]

FFG is my favorite publisher so I was stoked to see this. And great list, although I'd include Eldritch Horror in my personal list. Thanks Sam!

[@marcosfernandesdesousajuni9576]

No Imperial Assault? T_T

[@Clappincardboard]

Enjoyed the video but some surprises omissions on there. Ffg has had some great games (especially when they had the Gw license). Can’t wait to see you add journeys to middle earth on there either ;). I’ll do a top 5 which is tough! 1. Warhammer 40k conquest. Very underrated! 2. Descent 2nd edition 3. Xwing 4. Lotr lcg 5. Blood bowl team manager I haven’t played journeys to middle earth (yet as I just got it) or chaos in the old world but they may have cracked the list.

[@Steve-L]

Where is Sam's beloved Kingsburg? Sure it has been reprinted elsewhere, but so has Fury of Dracula, and that was on his list.

[@FeartheMalice]

Man I barely know Fantasy flight. I was only able to guess Mansions of madness and Cosmic Encounter.

[@jefflaflam7685]

I'm surprised Battle for Rokugan is not in there. :-)

[@jimsmith7445]

Sam... great video! Keep putting these kind of video's out, I'm curious about what you think of other publishers... maybe Zee should do the same. I agreed with most of your list, especially Operation Tannhauser. I went all-in on this game and are still in the process of new teams, scenarios, and such. I've even cannabalized the modular maps from "Mansions of Madness" (and expansions), and Gears of War, to create new map combinations. *** IF you are missing any expansion characters, let me know, I have them in the boxes. Here's some FF games I would have listed ... "Gears of War"... great game, fantastic mini's, great modular board. It's a pretty simple concept with a lot of legs. "X-Wing"... YEAH, I know all of you guys are sick and tired of "Keeping Up with THE JONE"S" (except Jason... I'm so jealous of his collection!) but X-Wing is an amazing game! YES, it's a rip off of Wings of Glory, but it gives the player a great deal of options. Recently, I even went out and purchased the colored stands that allow you to create your own squadrons... YES, unnecessary but great fun. I would have added "Condotierre" in the small box format... a small game with huge legs... so much value in a box! I know you're NOT a huge RPG guy, but FF's four RPG set is excellent! It puts the player in the middle of a Zombie Apocalypse, Wrath of the Gods, Revenge of the Machines, and End of the World scenario's. They're pretty original. ***I only have TI3, with all the expansions, and because I'm a solo player mostly, NEVER have any people to play it with. I would recommend "Rex", which I think is not only a good game but stylish as well. I invested in "Imperial Assault", but can't seem to quite recommend it... nothing wrong with t he game, but it just doesn't produce well. ***I wanted to embrace "Legion", but I'm NOT GOOD with glue, and such... no 3D printer either for the backgrounds. It looks like a great game, but I don't have the skill to assemble it. KEEP UP the great work...

[@andimjustalex]

i still can't believe FFG had a kingdom hearts card game back in the day

[@arcubal]

I think FFG is really good at iterating upon previous designs to try and craft a superior newer game. Look at Arkham Horror -> Eldritch Horror -> Arkham Horror cycle or how the new Lord of the Rings boardgame is an amalgam of powerful and elegant game mechanics from Mansions of Madness, Arkham Horror LCG and others...

[@arcubal]

Correction: I meant Descent, not Arkham Horror LCG.

[@goodsound4756]

The summary at the end is missing.

[@seanmorgan2257]

you mentioned the cards in the Japanese game, the quality if as in other FFG's, will have sleeve size code on the back to create more revenue

[@elduderino7069]

I am still searching the 4th X in TI4. I only see a 3X game.

[@scyldscefing3913]

Great list.

[@Giantcaterpillar]

No love for Runebound?

[@Steve-L]

Tom liked it more.

[@MiniWarzone]

Nice top ten. 😎

[@Strmtrper6]

Hey Sam, what modules did you dislike with BSG? I know they are very hit or miss almost universally.

[@davidpeterson5179]

He didn't like the Ioian Nebula ending

[@Strmtrper6]

Thanks. Not surprised by that. We never play with the ending modules.

[@RottenJeeves]

Unmatched uses the same system as Tannhauser

[@KabukiKid]

Sam's top two are my top two, also... not 100% sure which one would be my #1, though. ;-) I love both a ton.

[@silversunseven]

No KeyForge ?!?

[@fingolfinfinwe]

Deadwood?

[@Steve-L]

He did like it in the review, and said he agreed with Zee that it replaced Carson City, but he hasn't played it since that time so many years ago.

[@Puzzu]

Some nice games on this list but honestly all of my money to FFG has primarily gone to X-Wing and Armada lol

[@bold1066]

I picked up Mission: Red Planet from listening to you talk about it. It is such a great game! Great list!

[@angewomon143]

It takes like... 4 hours for 3 players for twilight imperium doesn’t it?

[@richardshort2001]

No Chaos in the Old World? Would have sworn that would have been on there.

[@LookAtTheBacon]

Also a bit Euro-y for Sam.

[@GonzaloErloi]

Good Top.

[@holywarriorbear7720]

I'm personally a lot more interested about Terrinoth than any of these licensed universes... At least Terrinot his FFG*s own ip

[@aj_8009]

Hi Sam, really enjoyed the list! Out of interest, what were the BSG modules that you didn’t like?

[@miki49]

No Runebound is crazyy

[@marks6928]

Great video Sam, hope you do more of these :)

[@MechaJoezilla]

WOW! Only one Star Wars game?!?!

[@Iceman910902]

No love for Game of Thrones: 2nd Edition? Love that game!

[@GT-ie7uu]

Your missing nexus ops and battle lore 2.0 By the way you and Tom owe us a play through of battle lore

[@dannyp4174]

Stellar list of games. Would love to blink my eyes to own them all.

[@Mr_Mooo]

What? No Talisman?

[@pwootton24]

Did he say one hour per player? Ha

1. Gears of War 2. Cosmic Encounter 3. Mansions of Madness 2.0 4. Runewars (board game, not minis) 5. Forbidden Stars 6. Star Wars: Rebellion 7. Arkham Horror 2nd Edition 8. Arkham Horror LCG 9. Chaos in the Old World 10. Blood Bowl: Team Manager 11. Warrior Knights 12. TI4 13. LOTR LCG 14. StarCraft the Board Game 15. AGOT LCG 2.0 16. REX: Final Days of an Empire 17. Horus Heresy 18. Mission: Red Planet 2.0 19. Battlestar Galactica 20. New Angeles

[@wolfjshs]

How about a top 10 fancy fight games that you dislike?

[@Cpt_nice]

Android Netrunner

[@KH-ft4ut]

I can only do a top 7 FFG list, without including games I don't like. 1. X-wing 2. Mansions of madness 1st edition 3. Blood Bowl TM 4. Chaos in the old word 5. DragonQuest Revised Edition 6. Doom: The boardgame (old edition) 7. Age of war As for Tannhauser I agree this theme needs to get revived, but for a better game though. I think Sam got too much love dust in his eyes when it comes to this game. Of cause I would be happy if FFG would just start making actual board games again. They where my absolutely favorite company when I got into the hobby, now they don't publish anything but IP expansions and crAPP games.

[@juanpablozabala4975]

This is sadly true. I got into this hobby in 2012 thanks to FFG, Descent 2nd edition being the first modern board game I bought. Now I rarely get interested in their new games. I hope Christian Petersen puts together a new company addressing this incresing gap in design. Make board games great again!

[@anttivaaranen8551]

Many great games on this list! Sadly it's the number 1 I found most disappointing: 1.too random for a game that long 2. it's really a race to VP goal instead of this epic political space thriller I had heard stories of 3.most of the voting rounds were boring as the topics had too little to do with the current board state.