Same Name, Different Game: Legendary Wings (Arcade vs. NES)

[@MaximumRD]

I definitely recall renting the NES version back in the day, I was NOT aware of an arcade original, I had no idea what it would be like but the box art and shots looked intriguing and I really enjoyed it, played it a lot.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Same here, played it quite a bit back in the day.

[@alex_-yz9to]

According to TCRF, Michele became a dude in the set 1 version which seems to be the version the NES game is styled after. So mayhe thats what that snippet of the encylopedia is referring to

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

That's definitely what they're talking about.

[@AndrewAmbrose]

My favorite NES shooting game is Compile's "Gun-Nac"

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Legit.

[@HybridAngelZero]

The weirdest part is, when you said "Michelle Heart", I immediately thought of the assist character from the first Marvel vs Capcom, and then you mentioned the cameo right then and there xD Honestly, if another VS Capcom game gets released, I would love to see Michelle make a comeback as a deep cut playable character

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Absolutely! I LOVE Ultimate MvC3, but was lukewarm on Infinite. I'd love to see another one soon.

[@DesertRainReads]

I would agree, would love to see Legendary Wings Remake. Also, has he played Capcom Classics Collection Volume 1? The arcade version is on there.

[@Gridseeker]

Legendary Wings is certainly one of the most obscure games by Capcom but still underrated. I played a lot when I had my Nes and I even managed to clear it, however the original arcade game is my favourite due the atmosphere (the main characters reminds me a lot the flying soldiers from the Flash Gordon movie, in fact I dare to say the designers of the game borrowed a lot from that movie and other science fiction-fantasy movies as Clash of Titans) and the music; oh god the music, I LOVE IT. The first stage melody is so epic and by the way, the composer for both arcade and NES versions is the legendary Tamayo Kawamoto and is a shame there is almost no info related with the game (I´ll die to see some original artwork of the development days). Still, Capcom through its Suleputer music label released many years ago a limited edition of the arcade soundtrack (which came with the "Side Arms" arcade soundtrack, bundled both games ost in once disc) and it contains an interview to the composer: one of the few things that Tamayo san recalls is the music composing process was at par with the development of the game itself, thus she didn´t have much information of the game in terms of story or screenshots to compose the music. Still, in the interview she states when she composed the first stage bgm, she did it with the "Flying with delicacy in the sky" image according to her own words. Also she recalls she couldn´t polish or do some extra adjustments to the volume of the music due the arcade game was released and nobody from the team told her about that. If you need some extra info about the game just tell, in fact I have the original soundtrack which I bought in Japan and I am a translator. BTW corrections are always welcome. Greetings and nice video.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Oh, nice. I saw people credit Tamayo with the music, but as I said in the video, no one cited a source for that. Good to know.

[@BainesMkII]

@9:50 I played Legendary Wings in the arcade; it's part of why I bought the NES game. Even so, I truly do only still remember Legendary Wings because of its NES port.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

That's cool. I've never even seen a Legendary Wings cab that I can recall!

[@DanielWolfsong]

Awesome review! This is the most in-depth review on Legendary Wings I've ever seen and I love it. This was the first game I got for my Nintendo back in 1988. I was completely taken by the ancient-futuristic visuals, the giant stone head, and the music. It has a special place in my heart to this day. I only recently played Life Force for the first time (after wanting to play it ever since I'd first seen it in Nintendo Power as a kid). Playing that game, I was like "Man, this game has a LOT of elements similar to Legendary Wings" and I realized Capcom probably got a lot of... inspiration... from Life Force while making Legendary Wings. Life Force is a great game too, I really enjoyed it!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I'm glad you liked it! But yeah, I like Life Force quite a bit more.

[@mastergodai]

oh man dude you just opened up the door of memories for me i watched this whole video with a huge smile on my face

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Glad to hear!

[@cyberpunknut1099]

For some reason i always got game confused with wings or wor. So technically i didn't really know it existed. Pleasant video surprise.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Ha! I thing Wings of Wor is technically a better shooter, but maybe even less well-known.

[@zalmute423]

Thank you for making this episode. This game always fascinated me as a kid and while I never made it through back then, I am inspired to try again in 2020.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you for watching it! I bet you could make it through now!

[@ceberuss_yt8266]

Always interesting episodes! Thank you and kudos from Belgium 👌

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you!

[@edaniels240]

Still have the NES version and have the arcade version on Capcom Collections vol 1 for PS2

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Nice.

[@captainn2094]

One of my childhood favorite games. Thanks for the video

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thanks for watching!

[@musejames5672]

I own the both the arcade version (via PS2) and the NES console version. I play the NES version almost everyday and I love it. The arcade version just annoys the crap out of me...I can't get past the second stage lol. Thanks for doing this episode. It was very much needed.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

You're welcome! And apparently, it was! One of my most-watched videos from last year, for some reason!

[@ShmupJunkie]

Just found your channel and what an excellent video. The arcade version of legendary wings is insanely difficult bordering on impossible without auto fire. I always enjoyed the NES port as a nostalgic fav and when I finally played the arcade port one day, expecting an improvement as you'd often expect, I was appalled at how broken it was. Definitely a case of the port eclipsing the original, kind of like Bionic Commando and some others, and you laid it out well. Great video and not full of fluff, you've got a sub. 👍

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Hey, thanks, man! I enjoy your stuff, too! I really liked your '80s and '90s video from a little while back!

[@ShmupJunkie]

@@SameNameDifferentGame Thanks. That’s still my favorite that I’ve made so far along with the Compile History one. I’m slowly watching some more of yours as I just found you, but I didn’t realize you’re a veteran and been making videos forever here. I’m like a newborn that just popped out of Google’s womb 🤣 it hasn’t even been a year yet.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@ShmupJunkie You've got a good subscriber base for that short of time!

[@dezm101]

awesome job! I remember playing the arcade cab a few times as a kid and really loved it, especially that huge face shooting whirlwinds. The NES version is also a ton of fun, I have been surprised that its remained so obscure.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I think it's mostly just because there wasn't a series after it. Most of Capcom's well-remembered games are the properties that kept coming back.

[@WallyWallcakes]

Great stuff, Joe! I've found myself diving more and more into shooters lately, and I haven't really played much of Legendary Wings over the years. Might have to give this one a re-visit.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

It's worth it!

[@matthewlane518]

Least remembered? Wow I use to rent that game alot I didn't know it was so forgotten, I loved it

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Really not well-known anymore, but same here.

[@spiderslip]

Literally everyone I know has owned or does own this game. I played it religiously as a kid. this game was an NES Standard in the US.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

It does feel like one of those that everyone either had or knew someone who had it.

[@INFERNO95]

I played it but never bought it. There were better capcom games on the nes.

[@protoroc]

Sure this game was featured in Nintendo Power.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@protoroc Almost every game was featured in Nintendo Power.

[@willmistretta]

I love how you can tell that this was one of the projects the Mega Man 2 team worked on concurrently with it, even without hitting up a Wiki. Those little drill enemies that pop out of the walls are identical. Make mine the NES version for sure. The platforming bits in the arcade are stiff and slow and just sort of...derpy.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Yeah, I almost commented on that, but decided to let it be.

[@camokazi1313]

I used to have this cartridge. The music was so good, especially in stage four.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Hell yeah!

[@RetroMoments]

Never heard about this game. Looks definitely interesting. Great job on the video!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you!

[@calvin3464]

Even though I've never played the NES version of this game my favorite version has gotta be the arcade version.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Ha, that feels more like "because I've never played the NES version," but I would honestly recommend it!

[@DesertRainReads]

The NES version was interesting, very difficult to say the least. I loved it but yes, the arcade version was definitely better overall. Sucks the game never got a sequel.

[@calvin3464]

@@DesertRainReads I know right? If Legendary Wings got a sequel I'd totally play it.

[@DesertRainReads]

@@calvin3464 indeed, I would love a sequel or a full-fledged remake of this game that takes the best elements from both the arcade and NES versions.

[@thebigunodos3559]

At least this video was put in my recommendations. Learned about a new game. Great job!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Awesome! Thanks for watching!

[@forrestwright1782]

Great video. I have fond memories of the NES version. It was the third game we bought for it. Challenging but not overly frustrating, which made me really enjoy it as a kid. The arcade version was a different story, though. It was way too hard. No wonder it was quickly forgotten about

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Yep, the balance is great for people new to the shoot-'em-up genre in the NES version, for sure!

[@alex_-yz9to]

14:12 oh hi Wily capsule ... Nice to see you here

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Hahaha, yeah, it does feel like the later Wily fights where he disappears and reappears, doesn't it?

[@FreddPhucks]

Hmmm i never heard of this game. I have to try it. RIP Michel Heart. Glad to see that she at least had a cameo on MVC as an assist. I'll appreciate her more now.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Check it out, especially the NES port!

[@INFERNO95]

Make me appreciate samus from Metroid more then ever.

[@OrbisAetherum]

NES Legendary Wings is a favorite of mine. Good video.

[@alex_-yz9to]

What was wirh capcom and random Greek themes in their games during this era

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Neo-classical was in, I guess.

[@zanegandini5350]

I wasn't even aware of Michelle Heart's existence, since I was only familiar with the NES version. Kind of a shame both of these characters sort of ended up forgotten along with Legendary Wings itself, though it's kind of easy to see why. The arcade game looks extremely uninteresting, and the NES also has better shooters than this one. My favorite shooter on the NES is Dragon Spirit with Crisis Force just slightly behind. Come to think of it, Konami and Capcom both had the best shooters on the NES and SNES, while Compile filled their void on the SMS and Genesis/Mega Drive and CD/Mega CD.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Yeah, Crisis Force definitely puts this one to shame.

[@zanegandini5350]

@@SameNameDifferentGame It pushes the NES so hard you'd think Sunsoft made it instead of Konami.

[@alex_-yz9to]

I mean games from 1988 seem to be forgotten so easily... I mean remeber Trojan? Same year... Still forgotten

[@TexasHollowEarth]

Compile was all over the PC Engine as well as the Mega Drive 👍. I prefer their efforts on NEC's system, personally.

[@zanegandini5350]

@@alex_-yz9to Capcom sure wasn't quite an arcade juggernaut that year, but they hit their stride with Final Fight the following year.

[@masterblassster]

Great video! Nice channel! Liked and subscribed!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thanks!

[@iankempster7007]

Great video as always.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you!

[@stepheng8061]

Gamesack covered this game a few years back and it was my first time hearing about it. Never thought about it until now I have thenrom in a set maybe I'll try

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Give it a spin! Totally worth it!

[@bruceaskew2107]

My favorite shootem up is gun nac or heavy barrel

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

"HEAVY! BARREL!" I dig that game more than I think some others, but Gun Nac rules!

[@bruceaskew2107]

@@SameNameDifferentGame u should do a video about it 😎

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@bruceaskew2107 Maybe I will, someday.

[@mistyknightsbionicarm]

I got to play this all of one time in the arcade. I loved the music. It was like ducktales but more rugged. 😂

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I can see that.

[@Jexel999]

Great review ... I never even heard of this game but just went on eBay and got a copy .

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Oh no, am I a popular enough KZbin personality now that I "drive up the price of games" just by doing an episode?!

[@nickparsons337]

@@SameNameDifferentGame Not quite yet; but well on your way, my good man. Great review. Very informative; and well articulated.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@nickparsons337 Thank you!

[@nickparsons337]

@@SameNameDifferentGame You're more than welcome. I always give credit where credit is due. Keep the good content coming.

[@Jexel999]

Same Name, Different Game -- hell yea man!! Keep it up!! Give me some more great classics !!

[@chamchamtrigger]

If you ever find anything in Japanese concerning this game, I'd be more than happy to translate it for you. Despite growing up in the arcades, I didn't know that Legendary Wings was originally an arcade game until around 15 years ago.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Thank you! And same! I had no idea it was an arcade port until the first Capcom Classic Collection came out.

[@jaimeaquino6088]

Love the arcade version. Used to play 2 player co-op with my bro

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Nice!

[@MellowGaming]

Had never heard of this, which makes sense when the NES version was US exclusive. Might have to check out that arcade collection. Looks like it's available on Xbox One as a backwards compatible game. Noice.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Yeah, I didn't mention that, because I don't have an Xbone to confirm, but I'm pretty sure it is.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

Joe, did you considered Roger to cover Legendary Wings? I mean it is obscure and it's old-school.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

It is, but still falls a bit out of his purview.

[@MrSez1979]

Yet another LEGENDARY episode! 😅

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Haha, thanks!

[@lldjslim]

Interesting I have the nes game, but i never knew it was a arcade part

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

The NES game really is the better one, though, so you're all good!

[@toguroMax]

Nice to see an obscure game on the main series. For some unexplainable reason, I've always thought this game was somewhat related to Forgotten Worlds and Dragon Spirit, like a offspring of both (although I'm pretty sure the release dates don't match).

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Someone else mentioned Forgotten Worlds, and yeah, I could see that, but there's no explicit connection, afaik.

[@chrissawyer1484]

Loved the NES version of this.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

It's a good one!

[@reagandow850]

Great episodes. More shmups please!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I'll see what I can do!

[@AntonioRodriguezSilver]

Legendary Wings! Now there's a game I never got the hang of. Maybe I should give it another go. Thanks for reminding me of my nemesis! 🤣

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I believe in you! You can do it!

[@kerokerocola99]

I only knew of Michelle because of MvC1.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Legit. At the time, I didn't even realize she was from Legendary Wings, because I'd only played the dude-ified NES version.

[@camaristico]

KZbin didn't let me join for the premiere!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Oh no! That sucks!

[@lonewolffang]

Never got the chance to play it (arcade or nes), but it's another capcom game that will most likely not get a sequel or a remake because of street fighter and resident evil getting all the love. Don't get me re and sf are still some of my faves, it just sucks that capcom has a massive library and so many are left in storage never to be seen again or just digital downloads.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I'm fine with downloadable games, but yeah, I'd like to see old series like Ghouls 'n' Ghosts get some love alongside RE and SF.

[@RamuneRabbit]

I remember my Younger Brother and I getting Seasame Street ABC and this game respectively from my Dad. It was a great game, and my Buddy next door at the time had a blast with the 2P mode! But I'd always use Game Genie to beat it, until 10 or so years ago where I gave it another spin. See...Game Genie pretty much butchers the OST somehow with random beeps and the main tunes are ever so slightly off-key. So doing an honest to goodness 1 credit clear is all but encouraged (and I pulled it off pretty well). Michelle even has a PSN avatar icon available too!

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

How dare the Game Genie do such a thing!? But yeah, I did a 1cc when capturing footage, and definitely recommend it.

[@Aragorn7884]

*Abadox* - NES

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

That's a good one!

[@zanegandini5350]

Yeah, the danger levels on Legendary Wings remind me of Abadox's aesthetic, more than Contra as Joe pointed out.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@zanegandini5350 Abadox was later, though.

[@jagoomanra4443]

I still own my original copy of this

[@LordofNalicNod]

Legendary Wings. WAS. MY. SHIIIIIIIIIIT!!! *explodes* Seriously, Legendary Wings was by far one of my favorite NES titles. Have you ever covered Trojan?

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I have! kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4Oli3RnjK97hZo

[@davy_K]

Played it only in the arcade. I started to enjoy it once I able to play it in MAME as it's a coin grabber.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

MAME made a lot of games more palatable by not costing your whole allowance to finish!

[@markwarburtontkd]

@@SameNameDifferentGame so when I was 7, this was at a grocery store in this random little arcade section. I got grounded because I yelled "FUCK" super loud from frustration. I always associate this game with being grounded haha

[@zarzunker2451]

What's the meaning behind your shirt? "My soup teeth" in English lol　私のスープの歯

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

The shirt features a bunch of art from Parodius, one of the power-ups in Parodius is a megaphone that shouts nonsense and destroys enemies.

[@zarzunker2451]

Same Name, Different Game なるほど！笑笑

[@AirZonkWorldChamp]

It's weird they took out Michelle Heart but gave the new male character a very pink outfit. Anyways cool review.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

That is kinda weird.

[@AirZonkWorldChamp]

@@SameNameDifferentGame Not that there is anything wrong with pink of course but both the heroes here in the NES game have very feminine colours and designs so I wonder if the change to remove Michelle was a very sudden move for Capcom or they wanted a more metro sexual look for the characters in the first place.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@AirZonkWorldChamp Androgyny was in during the '80s, but that still seems weird. I honestly think it was meant to have DUDES as the heroes instead of a woman due to some perception that boys wouldn't want to play a game with a heroine. I mean, the NES manual for Metroid even refers to Samus as a man.

[@markwarburtontkd]

Oh man. This game.... I hated this in the arcade as a kid. Hated it. It is a pretty well made vertical shooter that suddenly became THE SLOWEST side scrolling platformer. I just got an arcade emulator cabinet and loaded it up, immediately wanted to break something again 🤣

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

The arcade side-scrolling sections are pretty rough, yeah.

[@xboxclown8922]

Same Name, Different Game Saints Row 2 Saints Row: The Third Saints Row IV Just curious to see you might do console/pc episode. Saints Row 2 was on multiple platforms but a different team ported it to PC. OMG, it is so terrible I can't even finish it. Saints Row: The Third recently got a remastered. Saints Row IV: Re-Elected would be that for SRIV. I actually 100% completion The Third, IV and Gat out of Hell three times now.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I liked Saints Row III a lot, but all of those games are extremely long open world games, so I honestly wouldn't expect to see them here any time soon.

[@XxDevilXNeverXCryxX]

Just because, I always wanted to say FIRSTIES!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Holothurion]

A Winner is You!👏😄

[@flashbodie1]

Cu does

[@davidkiem2359]

Legendary wings was better on the nes than the arcade. Just like bionic commando was better than the arcade.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Yep! I also did a video on that (it's also great on Game Boy), check out the end screen for a link!

[@margaritoamargo6347]

Legendary Wangs anyone?

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

I see what you did there.

[@YukaTakeuchiFan]

Well, I suppose it'd be a game that doesn't want you to dick around...

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

Looks like a prequel to forgotten worlds. P.S. Konami was way better

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

Yeah, kinda has that same vibe (I think Forgotten Worlds is a better game, though). As for the great Konami vs. Capcom debate... It's a hard call for me. My favorite game of all-time is a Konami game (NES Contra), but Capcom just had great game after great game, and at this point, Capcom is still making games I want to play, so that might tilt the lifetime rating to their advantage for me.

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

@@SameNameDifferentGame on the snes the ganbare goemon saga (4 games ) + valken are a game library on their own.

[@ReinaHW]

The female character was probably taken out due to the mentality then and now that boys don't want to play as a girl, they might get cooties and turn gay if they did or some silly reason behind her removal. Wouldn't surprise me if that was the reason for the western release having two dudebros. This is maybe the second or third time I've seen the game shown in a video, it's really not mentioned much.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

That's likely true, but I would really like to know for sure. I wonder if anyone from back then is still at Capcom USA...

[@ReinaHW]

@@SameNameDifferentGame There has to be information somewhere, unless whoever was supposed to keep a record didn't bother. Considering how much the game has fallen by the wayside over the decades then I guess that would be fitting.

[@SameNameDifferentGame]

@@ReinaHW Those old US branches of Japanese game companies were often little more than skeleton crews. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that there are no records around those kinds of decisions at this point. Which is a bummer.

[@ReinaHW]

@@SameNameDifferentGame A shame really, video game history really should be preserved, it can be quite fascinating.