YT DECOY Vs DECOY 29 eMTB ?? - Which Ebike is Better Trail or Enduro?

[@Alex-qo2nk]

Mate your reviews are so good. Down to earth easy to understand. Love it. Tempted to switch to ebike after watching your vids. Rode a Trek Rail 9 2021 last week was a weapon.

[@SamsBikes]

Hey Alex thanks mate that really means a lot, I love the rail I defo think the ebikes are the future or the now!

[@ciprian_s]

You’re perfect right ! Sam made me get my decoy and discover a new life.

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks mate! Glad your loving it! Emtb are the now

[@Brat0077n]

@@ciprian_s Isn't that the truth. YT is s cult, and I've already made several blood sacrifices LOL! Ride padded up now. Wife much happier...

[@jasper_of_puppets]

I was just thinking about getting the Decoy and going with a 27.5 up front and extending travel to 180mm... Glad to come across your video and see that you did it to great results!

[@SamsBikes]

Welcome aboard nice set up but I think the Meta is a better option in 21!

[@jasper_of_puppets]

@@SamsBikes Yeah, the '21 Commencal looks like a rad bike for sure, but I'm worried that it's a bit too long for me. I'm 5'6 and their size small has a 440mm reach and 1238mm wheelbase. I feel like the less extreme length of the medium Decoy (430mm reach/1204mm wheelbase) may be more to my liking... easier to manual, bunny hop, and generally throw around. But the '21 Meta Power does have a bigger battery and the new EP8 motor. I'm hoping YT updates the Decoy with a bigger battery and the new Shimano motor for 2021!

[@SamsBikes]

Happy to help on sizing but private message me on Facebook.

[@HirschyB]

Without a doubt Sam Pilgrim is my favourite Ride Concepts rider. Love his style, energy and humour!!! Crack a Monny!!!!!!!

[@jeremyjaziel7404]

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[@danielellis7219]

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[@jeremyjaziel7404]

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[@danielellis7219]

@Jeremy Jaziel Happy to help :D

[@siriosstar4789]

The best thing about these videos is Sams in-depth subjective reactions to what the bike is doing externally . It sounds honest and always from his personal point of view . Not preachy or political to not insult the manufacture . Great stuff. from my limited experience my 29 er is too high off the ground thus creating higher center of gravity and a feeling of less control, especially on downhills . It definitely rolls better on the flat but the sense of being unbalanced can be a little scary at times .

[@SamsBikes]

Hey Sirios thanks for the Kind words I try and say it how I feel it. I'm not sure I mentioned the height but your totally right. I feel you get used to that but it does time some time.. Thanks for watching keep Riding Rider

[@Brat0077n]

I have the exact same problem, but I attribute it to the 30 lbs around my midsection. Looking forward to restoring bike's natural center of gravity in a few months LOL!

[@photoman5943]

youn are my favorite rider. like your channel and riding ability.

[@SamsBikes]

I appreciate that I go ok for an old man!!

[@craiganderson412]

Awesome review thanks Sam, as you know i'm running the base 29 as that'll all my LBS could get hold of. Waiting for the Fox X2 and Fox 36e to arrive (160mm and 145mm maintained) but in the meantime riding the bike with stock rockshox forks and shock. Got to say the bike climbs very well as you said, and shreds the down hills OK as well. For a base model decoy it rides real nice. Also I must mention as we all gain more experience in enduro riding one doesn't always need 170mm front and rear to shed the big downhills. Still waiting for my Sam's bikes tee shirt. Photo up soon! Cheers Craig

[@SamsBikes]

Hey Craig thanks for buying the t shirt mate can’t wait to see it! Yes the base model rides real well but I’m sure you can’t wait for the new suspension. Your totally right you don’t need loads of suspension a good ride can get away with less!

[@shiftymuckers6627]

Another great video Sam, must admit that I’m a bit old for all those bike Park shenanigans now, so I think it’d be the 29er for me for a steady bit of trail riding!

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks 😊 mate yep I say most people are better on the 29er unless you want to ride really crazy stuff then the mullet!

[@Brat0077n]

I'm 66 and my Decoy is a pure delight to ride on single track with small obstacles. Up hill is now fun. Like you, I'll leave the jumps and 3 meter drops to the 21 year old big boys!

[@svenhouldey2369]

Keep up the great work Sam 🍻 legit open opinion and explained clearly 👍 look forward to hearing your thoughts on the RC Wildcats? Love mine definitely better quality than my old 5'10's which lasted 5 minutes.

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks Sven I try loving my RC the wildcats make me feel wild haha

[@darrenlevinfam]

Awesome riding Sam! Both great bikes.

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks Darren yep 👍 both amazing bikes

[@stugillis]

Nice one Sam. Totally agree that your bike should reflect your trails. I’ve the mullet cause I live in Pemberton BC. STEEP!! 👍

[@SamsBikes]

Nice one yep.... I hate seeing people riding the wrong bikes..

[@willrogers8454]

Yes I have a question about the Decoy. It was hard decision between the Decoy and the SL. Because of COVID I wasn’t able to ride the Decoy since they closed the Mill. I did get to ride the SL as well as the regular Levo. I heard a lot of comments about clanking noise from where the motor attaches to the bottom of the frame on the Decoy. This was the one issue that swayed me. I really love the natural feel of the SL but I really loved the clean lines of the Decoy. Bottom line...I’m a huge fan of simplicity and functionality.

[@SamsBikes]

Hey mate I love both bikes never had any problems with either...

[@samvanhoogen]

All I can say is that my 29er has got this ole dad bod down 30lbs in 2 months!

[@SamsBikes]

Sam thats amazing congratulations keep going send up a photo on Instagram or drop us an email and tell us your secret [e-mail]

[@dl2821]

Great review Sammy...I recently had a 2020 Giant Trance 2 29 and experienced a similar thing in that sometimes it felt like the bike was more in control...have sold and now looking fr an e-bike, and as I'm only 175cm and 77kg I'm thinking 27.5 wheels might give me more confidence

[@archietamayo76]

i purchased my giant reign-e based on how i faired locally with with my recent bikes 29er strive and mullet converted 275 firebird. for me, both were hard to control for steep and twisty. i added a zeb and coil to the reign-e, now its even better. did looked into converting to a mullet (trending), but i looked at what you did and my past experience, decided not to.

[@giannisl.9475]

Sam again great review..... bikes also perfect. Do you know when YT will get the new ep8 motor. Merida i thing got it?

[@SamsBikes]

Thanks mate, I have no idea when YT will put the EP8 in the Decoy! but I dont see them sitting back and losing business. Commencal and Merida released it today

[@deanrwilson]

The EP8 has some issues Shimano are trying to sort out before they go into mainstream production. Your would have seen bikes with pre production EP8's. So unfortunately if you wan't a YT with the EP8 it's a wait and see scenario and fingers crossed they will sort out the motor issues and go into full production asap. If they rush and get it wrong it will hurt their name IMO. The Bosch CX4 motor is the leader in terms of power uphills.

[@ribinrobin8925]

Interesting you went 27.5 on the decoy. I ain't tuned in for awhile but my decoy is set on your previous set up of mullet with a narrower rear tyre and flip chip high

[@SamsBikes]

Yep I was surprised as well but after the back to back testing it was the best set up for me.

[@mattysawesome]

Hi Sam, just noticed they don’t sell the Decoy shred anymore so I was wondering if you knew the difference between the shred and the mx core?

[@gingerb36]

Decoy 29 with the new EP8 motor

[@SamsBikes]

not sure when they will release it? I have asked

[@gingerb36]

Gone for the mullet version 😁

[@philwagner9336]

Sam what’s your thoughts on new Yt Shred? Pretty much only thing semi available soon in United States

[@SamsBikes]

I think if you want to DH and enduro run its a good bike if you want to ride more trail riding and longer rides grab a bike with and bigger battery

[@stevebiron3036]

I’m a YT fan boy (18’ Jef PR 29r and 20’ Levo comp 29 up front & 27.5 rear) Enjoy your channel (U have skylz !) but I think a mullet is 29 upfront and 27 five in the rear no?

[@SamsBikes]

Hey Steve, thanks kind words, yes a Mullet is 29/27 but my bike was a mullet but I changed straight 27 and thought it might be confusing for the viewers.

[@wesleyseymour8857]

Nice riding brother. I'm tired just looking at that 😁

[@SamsBikes]

You and me both I was dead for 2 days after that..

[@mikeh5034]

Ride the 29er for 99% of your riding. "IF" your a DH guy, then get a YT DH bike for lift days. They are priced great too.

[@SamsBikes]

I'm not sure 99% I would say more like 80% but I get what you are saying..

[@Hvacinstalls]

13:18 thank you

[@MrDaymien1]

Is the 29 better on battery life than the mullet ? Did or do you change output setting in crawl trail boost ?

[@SamsBikes]

same battery same motor bigger wheels one would think you would get 10% better range but haven't tested it.

[@MrDaymien1]

@@SamsBikes Sorry , you better go for more "testing " hit some more jumps , shred more trail .

[@daverichardson6334]

Wouldn't bottoming out the suspenson just mean the bike was set up wrong?

[@SamsBikes]

I agree normally but I was riding black runs on a trail bike I just didn't have enough travel..

[@Bogdan_Ch]

Get a park bike for park and the trail Emtb for rest of the time

[@SamsBikes]

Yep if you have the money 💰 last week I was keeping up with my mate on a v10 so if you don’t ride very often at the park you don’t need two bikes

[@bpet2237]

What about 27.5s on the 145mm decoy?!

[@SamsBikes]

Sorry Blake I cant get a 27 wheels with a 12 speed on it.. also it would just make it a mullet decoy no?

[@bpet2237]

@@SamsBikes Hmm why not 12speed on 27.5 wheels? And its less travel than the decoy! So it would be a short travel 27.5 bike vs the long travel 27.5 you have now ... i think there is a major gap in the marketplace right now for playful 27.5 'trail' bikes

[@mixalis6168]

Arent you i Australia ? If yes, why not put AUD pricing ??

[@SamsBikes]

Mate sorry I live in Spain and I can only put one currency or it would take up to much room.. sorry mate.

[@ryanrodriguez70]

Don’t buy this year YT wait until they have the shimano Motor that was just released

[@LarryRichelli]

I hope they get it but at their site right now they have no bikes aivable.

[@deanrwilson]

Yes need to wait for the EP8 motor which has a couple of issues they are trying to sort out. The Bosch motor at this point is clearly the best climber in terms of power. I love the YT Bikes and I know some companies give you a choice of Bosch or Shimano like Focus.