You guys in the UK say that Hornby train sets are outdated and old. That's because you haven't experienced a Bachmann train set in the U.S. This Train set isn't just a one-off, apart from a few exceptions they are all like this with almost the same quality.
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
haha yeah - this is just as bad as some of Hornby's if not worse! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@railway18710 күн бұрын
I wouldn't even buy it if it were only £50. It's a lot of cheap plastic, nothing much to like about it. Good review!
@Charmaster0410 күн бұрын
At least the Bachmann Thomas stuff has metal wheels. And the Airfix (medium-sized) hook-and-loop couplers won't miss each other. That's a couple of quality points considered.
@gamerfan844510 күн бұрын
That mostly because bachmann is trying to keep the cost down.
@frostedbutts434010 күн бұрын
@@gamerfan8445 Keep profits high you mean.
@6yjjk11 күн бұрын
A donation towards hiring a wood chipper, so we can watch you slowly reverse this abomination into it.
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
hahaha thank you so much - I'll start saving for one immediately! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Die_Apeschrauber10 күн бұрын
@@SamsTrains i do respect the craft that is needet to build stuff, but in case of this set, i really would love to see you make it non existent anymore. wood chipper, fire or just as you already planned a wheel adjustment with your hammer, would love to see that especially because i know you 're normaly not the kind of person who would do this to model trains but in some cases it's the only way to save future generations from this crap. the best thing this "pastic arengement" did was making a hilarious review stuff for you sam! Bachmann should be thankful for that, were probably the only people who had fun with this thanks to you sam.
@HighballMachineWorks8 күн бұрын
@@6yjjk nah, feed it to the scrap man and hope he doesn’t become the next Santa
@airworks780923 сағат бұрын
This reminds me of the conrail gun guy creatively destroying a similar set
@leewaymodels11 күн бұрын
The EZ track are easy when you put them on a solid surface and slide them. There is 2 versions of the EZ tracks. One in steel and one in nickel silver. The nickel silver have a grey roadbed.
@Honeydwarf8511 күн бұрын
EZ track is still rubbish. There's a reason Unitrack is so prevelent in N scale. There's no competition. The only beating Unitrack is maybe the Tomix system.
@Charmaster0410 күн бұрын
@@Honeydwarf85 Hey, rubbish tier is reserved for Lifelok track. I have a bin of Bachmann EZ track at home, and I lay it down on the floor to run my trains fairly frequently. The trains kept derailing on the switches the most recent time (need to diagnose the problem at some point), but I'm able to use the curves and straights without problem. I'd assume Kate would produce the best roadbed track system, but save "rubbish" for the system where even simple ovals are unfailingly derailment-prone.
@Trainsaregreat36510 күн бұрын
Leeway models wow
@juliansadler626310 күн бұрын
Hornby track and Peco for sidings. Track with a precast base doesn't allow ballast. Rather like the old Hornby three rail track.
@Charmaster0410 күн бұрын
@@juliansadler6263 Well, the advantage of track with a precast base is that you can lay it directly down on the floor temporarily. The track stays together more firmly, lays more flat without nails, and keeps the carpet from poking through. Not to mention it provides some semblance of ballast for your temporary floor layouts. Technically you can ballast track with a precast base, you just end up with a four-foot shoulder along your entire line.
@gs42510 күн бұрын
Just remember, Bachmann isn't a British company. It's not an American company. It's simply a trading name, bought by Kader in China to sell their products.
@johnbeck327010 күн бұрын
Sounds like AHM/AHC of yearscago
@BAKU2K210 күн бұрын
American name, Chinese-owned. The original Bachmann Bros. company based out of Pennsylvania hasn't existed since the 80's.
@samuelslocos11 күн бұрын
The comedy factor when roasting the Christmas steel track knock off train set in this is so clever.
@AtheistOrphan10 күн бұрын
Disturbing flashbacks to the Queen Elizabeth ‘Tribute’ train. Oh the horror!
@David_Mattox12 күн бұрын
9:01 if this is supposed to be a USRA 0-6-0, it’s an insult to the class. As far as Christmas trains go, I’ll stick with the green/red Y7 and see about building my own Christmas-themed rake. I expect I’ll get more enjoyment that way. 18:15 I’ve got enough steel track for a small circuit, but I mostly use it for test track. Once I get to building a layout, I will be upgrading to Hornby track. Informative review, Sam. Cheers.
@vaclavmacgregor246410 күн бұрын
I bet the Dairy is milking the poor saps who paid full RRP!
@hussarzwei622310 күн бұрын
If you want a US Bachmann set that isn't a complete lemon, I recommend the 24013 N Scale Santa Fe Thunder Valley Diesel Starter Freight Train Set. It has nickel sliver track and metal wheels. It has the two options for couplers being US "Kadee" and European "Arnold/Rapido" style the latter being the same as used by British N scale. It cost around 101.58 GBP pound sterling.
@SodorTrain122511 күн бұрын
11:01 Tamed reindeer (or caribou) can actually produce milk, so that's not too big of a stretch, to be honest.
@SamsTrains11 күн бұрын
Fascinating! I'm just relieved they're not milking Mrs Claus.... Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SodorTrain122511 күн бұрын
@SamsTrains Agreed.
@GMLfghgjhff563311 күн бұрын
@@SamsTrainsha ha.. what
@6yjjk10 күн бұрын
@@SamsTrains Both things can be true...
@michaelkolano868610 күн бұрын
It could also be that they're importing into the north pole, for the other 364 days of the year Santa isn't eating people's food
@MrBnsftrain10 күн бұрын
This set goes for $319 MSRP in America and can be found for $180 at retailers and Amazon sellers. I'm surprised it's been localized by Bachmann Europe, complete with UK power supply! Bachmann USA has yet to localize any of their European models, but makes new European models for the American market. 2:34 that's normal for electric product warning labels in America. They made the French illegible but not the English. Only five Bachmann sets come with nickel silver track, the rest are just steel track. 8:06 the wheels were loose like that when I got my first train set. It was kinda like this one except it wasn't Christmas colors, only had a circle track, and only had a boxcar, gondola, and caboose for freight cars. It was the Pacific Flyer which Bachmann still make. All the flimsy parts definitely made this feel like a model train and not just a cheap toy. Only the chimney on the caboose and the pilot of the locomotive have broken off mine over time. The loco fell off a table to sustain that damage, but it did not impact how it runs! 12:10 Bachmann actually make a knockoff Polar Express called the North Pole Express pulled by a locomotive of the same type as in this set. The plastic axles are fine for a starter set as when I first got a model train car with metal axles (also a Bachmann product), I was surprised that it ended up moving on its own when I placed it on the track without coupling anything to it.
@tygarystyger77110 күн бұрын
Sam, you are correct about the possible missing wheels on the loco. Bachmann likes to take their 2-6-2 prairie locos, remove the leading/trailing wheels and sell them as 0-6-0s. I have a few of both in N scale. If you look at both, they are exactly the same, one is just missing some wheels.
@SeanBodine10 күн бұрын
I thought it was the other way around. It looks like they grabbed an 0-6-0, and put the pilot, and trailing wheels on. They did the same thing with a 2-6-0.
@JPRMT9 күн бұрын
@@SeanBodineyou are correct. This is sort of based on an 0-6-0 of USRA design. Bachmann added leading and trailing axles to produce “different” models without actually having to make different models…
@PetesPrettyGoodTrains9 күн бұрын
The 3rd dome is the tell that this was the switcher, and later Bachmann added the leading and trailing truck to make a 2-6-2. The third dome is another sand dome.
@PetesPrettyGoodTrains10 күн бұрын
2:37 That's labelling required by US federal law. The size varies based on how large the package is. The other one is the same label, but appears to be in French for the Canadian market.
@Gatherleymodeller.11 күн бұрын
Campaign for Sam to try t gauge ( like this comment )
@SamsTrains11 күн бұрын
Ooh good shout that'd be fun! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@marktegrotenhuis10 күн бұрын
@@SamsTrains If you do, please don't judge it the same way as OO models when it comes to how well it runs. Because T-Gauge is controlled by pulses (frequency) instead of voltage it's near impossible to do a crawl, so don't expect it to be able to.
@EvexiansVideoworks9 күн бұрын
That is T I N Y how do those even work??
@Gatherleymodeller.9 күн бұрын
@@EvexiansVideoworks I think they have a motor
@EvexiansVideoworks9 күн бұрын
@Gatherleymodeller. Yeah, i can imagine. But how SMALL are the components in there! Theese trains are the size of cigarettes!
@forzafan973311 күн бұрын
12:12 if you think that’s trying to rip off the Polar Express, you should look up Bachmann’s North Pole Express. They gave it the PolEx’s coaches but the same crummy engine from this set
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
Oh blimey - I will look that one up, thanks! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@michaelramsey827 күн бұрын
I used to work at a shop in Canada that sold those because we couldn't get any licensed PolEx sets. Nobody liked them, and the only one I remember actually selling got returned the same day. One of the issues was that, because the coaches were full scale-length heavyweights, it had 22 inch radius track instead of 18 inch radius, which made the loop of track too big to fit under most Christmas trees. Bachmann USA does make multiple options for shorter coaches, but chose not to use them for some reason. We sold a lot more of the hideous red Jingle Bell Express sets, and people seemed to like those better.
@FortunaFortesJuvat2 күн бұрын
@@michaelramsey82 The R22 curves would also screw up the progression of Canadian HO scale railroading- it starts with a train set running in a loop around the tree. Then, when Christmas is over, you get a 4'x8' sheet of plywood, and some Ikea table legs or saw horses, add the straights from the box, and there's the starter layout. 18" are the largest that comfortably fit on that. The next step is a 2nd sheet, or a "train room", and then come the R24 curves, 6-axle diesels, and full scale passenger cars.
@jacobharrison22048 күн бұрын
Sam: :what at the north pole is producing milk the reindeer, mrs claus? That link killed me lol😂😂
@thhseeking9 күн бұрын
ABout the "moustaches" on the tender...I'm getting Charles Tyson Yerkes vibes 🤣Jago! Come have a look!!! 🤣
@OhTheIndignity10 күн бұрын
The Hideous Blood Red Engine Hurts My Eyes 😍😍😍
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
haha I know - painfully bright isn't it haha!
@RichardKuivila194710 күн бұрын
It's Christmas! . . It's NOT Real !
@GaryLorenz-t7c4 күн бұрын
That's a very lovely & very interesting Bachmann's Christmas Train Set that you got there & watching your Christmas Train going around in circles which quite very entertaining for my liking to keep me entertained with excitement of course.
@martinhonor348310 күн бұрын
North Pole. It's in west London on the mainline out of Paddington, and is the depot for GWR's AT300 units. There may be a dairy there, but we should let Bachman dream a little.
@notmuch_2310 күн бұрын
I think a series that seeks to improve bad model railroad/railway rolling stock would be a good watch, without the time pressure of Salvage or Scrap.
@a2020vision_official12 күн бұрын
The locomotive is based on the same platform as your cheap Prairie with an updated mechanism (and no valve gear). I've had both as well. The original would have been based on the USRA standard 0-6-0 switcher, but to pad out their range they pushed the pilot forward a little so they could put in a leading axle and sell it as a Mogul or Prairie. Interestingly they have recently put out a fully updated USRA 0-6-0 which I'd like to check out, but not enough to buy it at the prices I've seen online.
@TamarackFilmCo10 күн бұрын
I managed to find the gingerbread boxcar, but with metal wheels, as a separate car a few years ago, and run it under the tree, but with my own assembled Christmas consist.
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
Ooh nice - I bet the metal wheels make a big difference! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@cameronfunk683211 күн бұрын
That USRA locomotive is ANCIENT. They use it for every starter set. Dirt cheap and the design is a million years old. That prairie you reviewed a while ago is the exact same locomotive. The NEW DCC USRA 0-6-0 is astoundingly good. I thought it would be absolute garbage but the price and another review I saw convinced me otherwise. It was well worth the $200 usd. Had bearings, sound, better couplers (no fake stand ins), plastic window glazing with painted on frames, tender lights, more realistic body work, and some extra details. It’s a master class budget steam locomotive. I’m praying those features start to migrate to the starter set 0-6-0’s. The cars aren’t much different than their normal freight cars with the metal wheels replaced with plastic ones and worse couplers. Sold separately they’re not bad. Not much any more expensive than upgrading old Tyco cars. I’ve used them to get a cheap fleet of cars to run. Great for smaller layouts. Honestly the better set is the Thunderchief and I think the echo valley ones are great but I don’t own one yet. You get a very bare bones DCC controller, silver track, and a budget sound equipped locomotive. Sadly you still get the budget rolling stock but if you can get it for a little over $200 then it’s actually worth the money. Finding DCC for anything under $300 is hard. Here you can at least get going and use the features.
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
haha yeah - I've seen plenty of suspiciously similar locos over the years!! I might have to look at the new DCC one - I've heard lots of good things about that one! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@RichardKuivila194710 күн бұрын
I guess She likes it . . ?
@JustYourPariah10 күн бұрын
Bro I swear to god, it’s always the god damn caboose that doesn’t couple right. Every single time I use my Bachmann rolling, the caboose ALWAYS uncouples every few laps.
@SKY7AR11 күн бұрын
I should stop watching your videos when I eat, cause I nearly choked like 5 times from laughter 😂😂 Superb video and the humor was on point as always!
@SamsTrains11 күн бұрын
hahaha sorry about that - thanks so much! :D
@benjamintan27339 күн бұрын
Yep, 130 pound still considered expensive. I don't think I'll buy it even if they drop the price to 89.99. Nicely done, by the way.
@Yamashiro_Kai10 күн бұрын
One thing to remember about Bachmann’s price in their website is it’s extremely marked up on purpose. They do this in an attempt to support retailers, I generally recommend not buying off Bachmann’s website unless it’s either something you somehow can’t find anywhere else or one of their warehouse finds.
@Steamer9610 күн бұрын
To think I wanted a Bachmann USRA switcher when I was a kid. Glad that Mantua shifter came my way instead.
@Jam-Jar111 күн бұрын
Having seen a lot of cheap Christmas train sets in shops as a kid, it's great to see someone ruthlessly review one.
@SamsTrains11 күн бұрын
haha thank you - it does feel good!
@Charmaster04Күн бұрын
Depending on when you were a kid, this could mean anything from Tyco and its contemporaries to the generic brand "train sets" that only run on the circle of fiddly plastic track in the box. This set is more like a Tyco set decades out of season, and ranges of this quality were pretty commonplace when Tyco was still in business. You can buy better models for the same cost (considering inflation) today than you could back then, but those HO scale toys still have their fans (though admittedly the fans will just buy them for toy-level prices from train show vendors). As for the "generic brand" sets, [THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN REDACTED FOR REFERENCING THE CANCELLED SAM'STRAINS ALTER-EGO EL CHEAPO. IF YOU'RE NOT SURE WHY THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN STRUCK, READ CANCEL CULTURE'S COMMUNITY GUIDELINES HERE.]
@nicholashefner32413 сағат бұрын
I run this train on a Layout for our town's train museum, and this is the experience I have every year. Kids love it, but I have to fix it every 10 - 15 minutes because it randomly jumps a switch or the cars keep coming loose. I'm glad I only have to deal with it for a month.
@dansmodelrailways788610 күн бұрын
The running number is Christmas day. 1225. American way to do the date, December (12) 25th.
@therailfanman207810 күн бұрын
Fun thing is, EVERYTHING in this set is sold separately with actual paint schemes. Granted, bachmann recently remade the 0-6-0, and the newer one is actually pretty good. But they still offer the old one.
@RedShedNick10 күн бұрын
Well i was still watching because i haven't laughed so much for a long long time Sam and an now crying with laughter, JBE that did it for me, i had to run to the bathroom! Ever nead chearing up well watch Sams Trains! Confirmed you are a legend, keep it up! Cheers Nick.
@jasonanderson658310 күн бұрын
I know you don’t like the Bachmann 0-6-0s but they did retool them a bit and gave them DCC and sound. As well as proper front couplers.
@Ianshandle99910 күн бұрын
Red text warning is also in French to enable sales in Canada 🇨🇦
@BAKU2K210 күн бұрын
That is despite being a set dedicated for export outside North America, considering it has been rated for 50Hz 220v.
@jamestheredenginefan52688 күн бұрын
10:54 Killed me 😂
@wintersbattleofbands11445 күн бұрын
2:30. It's French for the Canadian market. Same warning as the English text. They're required to have both.
@tyhik933810 күн бұрын
Man that train looks good, it reminds me of the train said that my aunt got me for Christmas when I was in 5th grade.
@caw25sha11 күн бұрын
I was in W H Smiths earlier and noticed a magazine about colkectables. There was a photo of the Beatles loco on the front cover saying "is this the greatest collectable ever?" 😂
@alex_the_balding_fat_man11 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
And I can exclusively reveal that the answer is.... no, no it isn't! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SueBobChicVid11 күн бұрын
You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch.
@Skiman-snow9 күн бұрын
Loved the review Sam, Laughed all the way through. Thanks for the fun !!
@wintersbattleofbands11445 күн бұрын
10:00 May have been tested at the factory. Occasionally pieces are pulled from production for testing.
@Taggart0011 күн бұрын
It will be Polar Bear Milk
@The-Signal-Man10 күн бұрын
13:42 The engine that the model is based on was indeed a 0-6-0, and in real life it did have hoverhangs both under the smokebox and the cab, hence why they were only used in yards and didn't do long distance work. However, Bachmann have released this model (which I believe originates from the 1970s!) as 2-6-2s and 2-6-0s before, and I can only assume they were too lazy to make a model of an actual 2-6-2 as opposed to an 0-6-0 with some extra wheels added. Edit: Just checked, the overhand isn't that large on the real engine
@michaelramsey827 күн бұрын
You're correct about them being too lazy to make a separate 2-6-2 model. This is a holdover from the '80s, when Bachmann did this a lot across their American product line, result in some truly horrendous creations (such as a 2-8-0 based on a very distinctive looking prototype that was also sold as a "2-8-2" with a tiny trailing truck that there really wasn't room for). However, the USRA 0-6-0 that the model is based on actually does have pretty extreme overhangs, and the proportions of the model match it quite well. It's lacking a lot of detail, but what's there is in the right places.
@lukejackson874110 күн бұрын
I think next year you should try and find a good Christmas train set… there must be one
@JBofBrisbane6 күн бұрын
The black base gives away the steel-railled Bachmann E-Z Trak. The nickel-silver-railled version has a light grey base.
@sweetroll172310 күн бұрын
The bridge between Model railway community and human beings 😂
@punkypink8310 күн бұрын
spit my drink out at "what's producing milk at the north pole? mrs claus?"
@williamnichols46710 күн бұрын
So, as an American, I have a few points to share about this set: Firstly, the set does use the older tooling for the 0-6-0. Secondly, the engine is designed as an 0-6-0, but Bachmann has modified the tooling to allow for it to be a 2-6-2. Thirdly, the quality of the set isn’t too terrible compared to the majority of similar sets from around the time (this is an older set that Bachmann continues to resell for whatever reason)
@rimizoem10 күн бұрын
Good work all year, Merry Christmas!
@joshslater242611 күн бұрын
I’m assuming the loco’s resemblance to Pere Marquette 1225 was intentional. It looks like the Polar Express’ bizarre freight-hauling cousin, complete with a prototypical livery.
@therailfanman207810 күн бұрын
No, it doesn't loom anything like the polar express or Pere Marquette 1225
@joshslater242610 күн бұрын
The tender and cab have an uncanny resemblance though, and of course the running number is the same, but they have altered it a bit.
@jamesc513610 күн бұрын
@@joshslater2426the running number is only the same because 1225 is December (12) 25th (25), hence the running number
@stevedoggart280510 күн бұрын
Its an ornament for running around a tree. Probably made a shed load of these 20 years ago. An roll em out every year to cash in on the festivities . No serious modeler would buy this thinking it would be a mighty fine addition to their collection. It is what it is , a very expensive novelty.
@Nicey1-ep6gs10 күн бұрын
Sam, thought it was the 1st April for this review !!! I am new to railway modelling glad I started with a TT120 train set
@michaelramsey827 күн бұрын
As someone intimately familiar with this particular Bachmann 0-6-0/2-6-2 (the prototype is an 0-6-0 but Bachmann sells a version with leading and trailing wheels tacked on as well), it cracks me up that the instruction manual still shows the exploded diagram for the old split-axle version. That drawing dates back to the '80s, and is no longer anywhere close to how the frame fits together. It's almost as bad as the incandescent bulb. At least we can be thankful that the split axles are gone - it's now at least a fairly solid and reliable runner, if not a particularly refined one. By the way, the curved track that comes with the set is 18 inch radius. I have no idea what that translates to in Hornby curves.
@goupigoupi695310 күн бұрын
The bulb allows you to date the loco quite accurately. Now you know what we're dealing with here in America. On the other hand, most of them run, which cannot be said about some Rapido and Oxford Rail locos. Win some, lose some, I guess.
@johnbeck327010 күн бұрын
Bachmann includes steel “easy track” in all its HO sets. The radius is 18” the straights are 9”. Keeping with the “Atlas” beginner track. Bachmann produces 22” radius curves in the steel rail. There is also turnouts (points, as you in the UK call them) that are 18” radius with a 1/3 18” radius curve permanently cast into the black roadbed. The grey plastic roadbed “easy Track” is nickel silver and available in Avery wide array of curves, turn outs and straight sections. The locomotive is available in 3 variations 0-6-0, 2-6-0, and 2-6-2 all using the same chassis and boiler casting, if you look at the chassis casting, you’ll see a hole at the rear of it for mounting a trailing truck, I noticed that while you disassembled the loco. I often wondered if you could modify this into an 0-6-0 into a mogul or prairie. The caboose is a loose rendition of a Pensy “cabin car”, not sure what designation it carried. The couplers on the cars appear to be “Easy Mate” generation 1, the generation 2’s have actual knuckle springs whereas the gen1’s have a pair of “fingers” cast into the two parts that make up the coupler, if you look closely at the coupler, you will see what I mean. These couplers absolutely suck, and the gen2’s aren’t much better. Bachmann just can’t seem to make a decent coupler, period. When I worked at Caboose Hobbies here in Denver years ago, I always tried to convince customers to avoid the “Christmas themed set” because they were quite often over priced and didn’t lend themselves to further ventures into model railroading, a standard set will work just fine and if you want, they can be a place to start your rail empire.
@Jimyjames7310 күн бұрын
Arrr Sam @ 18:06 - I'm still here - watching!!! 🙂 One of the funniest reviews I've seen for ages 😄🚂🚂🚂
@yuyan568311 күн бұрын
EVERYTHING here in the US comes plastic wrapped.
@SamsTrains11 күн бұрын
haha I can tell!!
@datguymiller10 күн бұрын
even books about not using plastic
@MaxwellTheTrainFan10 күн бұрын
well that’s waistfull I mean a hornby train set . Say the summer time Coca Cola train set for a decent example . It’s a card box and foam inside or the egg box looking interior with the trains up top and tracks down the bottom . Then track Matt and instructions and info paper sheets on the back end . that’s how a proper model train set from hornby is presented . And personally ! Better than bachmans . Tho it’s just my thoughts .
@RichardKuivila194710 күн бұрын
Even my Baby Brother.
@JBofBrisbane6 күн бұрын
Even Laura Palmer.
@trainfan99811 күн бұрын
I actually got this train set when I was in middle school. I'm about to finish college now and it hasn't changed a bit😂.
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
Blimey! Didn't realise this exact set had been around so long!
@OriginalBongoliath10 күн бұрын
@@SamsTrains It has been around since the 80s.
@irtbmtind898 күн бұрын
@@OriginalBongoliath Under many brand names, Model Power, Tyco, probably AHM as well. Made for Walmart, not a real hobby shop.
@raymondleggs550810 күн бұрын
Bachmann often puts returned "rerailed" rolling stock in t their sets, in fact they sell some 90's rolling stock in the 90's packaging they have a backlog of as "rerailed".
@TomPrickVixen10 күн бұрын
Bachmann recently released a new USRA 0-6-0 loco, so they clearly wanted to squeeze some money one more time of the old one, witch clearly the one this set has, with some downgrades compared to the last bunch of the old series of the loco (and yes the chassis was used in a 2-6-0 loco too). At least you got matching wheels on the wagons unlike me that one time got 2 style of plastic wheels on the same boxcar in a starter- set ( maybe that was used too...?). But look at the "silver lining" , steel track goes well with the old Tri-ang locos! I would still say it's worse than my Mechano "Space-train" set (semitransparent blue plastic with glitter and space themed prints on all the rolling stock), and if u managed to get another loco of the same class it could be upgraded to an all wheel drive + all wheel pickup loco, do it was a center motorized diesel, but with 1 shaft drive only as stock; + I added some LEDs for the extra space effect and a 5 pole motor with weights, to get the best it could be made out of it. Why I wasted so much work and money on a cheap set u ask? Because its so ridiculous that it's a novelty, and I wanted to run it without issues.
@garethparkin949810 күн бұрын
Mr Snooze goes through nickel plating steel track as his layout is Triang/Dublo Super 4 and he's completely renovated his track and it really looks good.
@historyotaku11 күн бұрын
Okay, so there is one thing you got wrong about the local. It is meant to be an 0-6-0, specifically the USRA 0-6-0 which do have large overhangs like on the model(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USRA_0-6-0), it's actually quite common for American steam switchers like the USRA 0-8-0(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USRA_0-8-0). You are correct though that Bachmann did design the engine to be able to take a front and even a rear trailing truck so they could turn it into a 2-6-0, a 2-6-2, and on one occasion at least a 4-6-0. It is really cursed, it has a tender that's far bigger than the engine itself. I will say I do have a soft spot for these though, 2 of them were very first locos and served me well ever since, one of them even took a dive off a table and damaged its valve gear but it still runs to this day. As for the overall set yeah I can't say I'm surprised, it is a Christmas train set but the quality of the loco and cars is pretty much the same as in all of Bachmann's regular train sets for better or for worse.
@michaelramsey827 күн бұрын
Agree with all of this 100%. I've had 5 or 6 of those 0-6-0s (lost count at this point), from various eras in Bachmann's history. They've come a long way, but some of the old quirks still remain. The large tender is borrowed from a Reading 2-8-0 that Bachmann made back in the '80s. I never knew about the 4-6-0 version - that sounds profoundly cursed and I'm going to look it up immediately.
@jasonlitz290710 күн бұрын
That 0-6-0 engine is almost as old as me at this point. My Dad and I had one in an original starter set.
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
haha yeah - I hear they've been around for millennia! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@TrevortheTrainFan11 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas, Sam; and good review! 👍🎄
@SamsTrains11 күн бұрын
Thank you so much - Merry Christmas to you too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@JerseyBill-x9r11 күн бұрын
I write this before you give the stats, and I did not know Bachmann still made steel track good for a month unless you have a high humidity content home. I truly thought it was one of those locomotives you needed D batteries for due to the looks. Now it is after the ratings, and I think an F- was warranted. I guess Santa will have no milk with his cookies this year, SC (Slight Chuckle). Anyway, great review and video and Ho! Ho! Ho!
@johnbeck327010 күн бұрын
Bachmann still includes steel rail in their HO sets. N scale comes with nickel silver rail.
@AdrianMannino8 күн бұрын
I’m starting to get into model trains, should I get Lionel g gauges even though they are larger than n scale? I already have an older Pennsylvania flyer. ( I’m expecting only to have 2 trains run on the track)
@MysticMindAnalysis10 күн бұрын
The fact that this is sold as a serious model trainset at all rather than a cheap toy is beyond ridiculous.
@Zebrails9 күн бұрын
32:56 Sounded like you said this cheap set came with third radius curves? It is basic 18" inch radius curves and 36" circle, the cheapest you can find in a "set"... There is 15" radius but sold only by Atlas as a bare minimum radius "snap track", while anything sharper would be with flex track. A more broad radius would be 22" radius snap track... Could you do a comparison video of "HO" to "OO" radius track? The type sold where you can buy individual pieces, and compare the curvature, sharpest to broad. On a basic set or beginner layout, HO would have 18" radius "snap track"... and a locomotive no longer than about 12 inches. John
@TKS6016310 күн бұрын
I sort-of understand why Bachmann puts those 0-6-0s in damn near every starter/Christmas set they make, because, to be completely fair, in my experience, those little engines are really reliable. I’ve had 3 of them and the only reason two of them didn’t make it, is because I kit-bashed them. I still have my first one and I haven’t really maintained it since I got it in the late 2000’s. Haven’t really run it full time in a while but when I do bring it out, it still runs like an absolute champ. All that being said, sets like these are the reason I made a custom Christmas train that runs on NICKEL PLATED TRACK.
@ironknobsteelworks406310 күн бұрын
I absolutely love that yellow tower crane but can only see it available in red. The search continues...
@dakshanbalaramesh11 күн бұрын
Seriously Bachmann?! This looked like the toy train I got as a birthday gift once, only that one was LOADS cheaper
@OriginalBongoliath10 күн бұрын
This tooling has been around since the 1980s.
@bear4708 күн бұрын
Had a fellow club member try to run his set at a christmas show last month and the engine melted from the smoke unit first lap around the layout. I dont know if he installed the smoke unit or not, just know that it melted
@peterwebster307610 күн бұрын
Gotta love the lookalike thermostat controller lol
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
haha I know... turn the temperature up!!
@SodorStudiosAndCoProductions9 күн бұрын
2:44 the second language is French, most likely to make it compatible with the French-speaking market as well (both France and Canada mostly), but to me the most shocking thing's that the French writing says "Caution, *ECTRICALLY* operated product", they didn't even bother double-checking
@greenio62910 күн бұрын
Hello Sam! Do you know if it’s possible to remove the smokebox of a Hornby Railroad Jinty without damaging it? I’m getting a blue one for Christmas and I’d like to give it a Bachmann Thomas face. If anybody else in the comments here knows about this, please let me know, any info I can get on this is appreciated greatly!
@gmaneis9 күн бұрын
I laughed all the way through this video, and have the oh-so-subtle feeling you don't have much respect for this thing. Thanks for a great video. Cheers from Indiana, USA!🤣😂
@oriontaylor8 күн бұрын
Perhaps something to put on your list of projects is to 3D print your own Christmas train set!
@SteamSuperHEater10 күн бұрын
Bachmann seems to really like their USRA 0-6-0, as it's in just about every steam set they produce in both HO and N. Despite this, I think they actually have been using the exact same tooling for it since the '80s. I'd say this set is about the same quality as a similar Bachmann set I remember getting about 10 years ago, but I paid closer to US$80. To charge upwards of GBP200 for this is insane. Speaking of which, I heard Lionel made an HO Christmas set a while back which is also expensive but crappy, I'd love to see you review it if you could get your hands on one.
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
haha I suspect it's extremely cheap to make and that's why - definitely been around for longer than I have! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@briandesens14411 күн бұрын
Awesome video Sam
@SamsTrains11 күн бұрын
Thanks Brian!
@briandesens14411 күн бұрын
@SamsTrains you're welcome Sam
@strike971610 күн бұрын
All eztrack with a black roadbed is steel. And yes the bachman 0-6-0 can also be found as a 2-6-2 with extra axles.
@timothydelaval108910 күн бұрын
I have a grey version of this with a oil burning tender. I even remember having one like this in 2005 brand new, not a single change as far as I can tell.
@scale_model_apprentice10 күн бұрын
Hello Sam, I noticed your layout is on the floor. I've always heard never run on carpet, and after cleaning up a few old engines, I can see why. Do you not have problems with running on the carpet? And if you do, how do you mediate them?
@perfectharvestmlpstudios91529 күн бұрын
After watching your video on the best 2024 train sets, I decided to get Hornby’s Santa Express train set. Yes, the loco and rolling stock are toy grade models, but they do serve a purpose, are relatively well-decorated and definitely look the part. The resin presents load that goes in the open wagon is also very nice wuality. In short, you know what to expect straight off, and it’s going to feature in an upcoming stop-motion animation that was inspired by one of your Christmas animations. However, with this one, yeah, definitely gives me vibes of the Queen’s Royal Tatmobile from Bradford Exchange … especially that tender with the plastic wheels! All we need now is a’resin commemoratives statue’ of Santa’s face badly moulded onto an unintelligible coin!
@trainboy711 күн бұрын
Personally, I’d just swap the plastic wheels out with metal ones. Which is something I’ve done for my train set freight cars and coaches. As for the 0-6-0. It may not be Bachmann’s best, but it at least runs like an actual locomotive. (For the most part)
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
Yeah if I was going to use these on the regular I'd do that too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@davidmolin894410 күн бұрын
I can see the next favorite locomotive of samstrains live lol, also all Bachman boxes are like this one we’re just used to it here in the us lol
@aidanjoyce505110 күн бұрын
I use Bachmann EZ track the on my layout, I was thinking of using professional design without the black boards.
@TheFourthStooge049 күн бұрын
4:45 No. They do not sell it separately.
@sargentrowell8110 күн бұрын
This kind of set is EXACTLY why people in the US just despise Bachmann.
@gamerfan844510 күн бұрын
Not really, bachmann make alot of good models, like their NYC Husdon
@Tankproduction20226 күн бұрын
@@gamerfan8445 about 60% of my locomotive fleet is Bachmann there all good no issues with them at all
@tgeiii355410 күн бұрын
Honestly Sam this is best as a donor loco. Yeah it’s split-chassis, but the chassis performs well enough to use as base for an engine with a better body.
@Nowheres_Channel10 күн бұрын
I had the same model (diffirent livery, tender and consist but still same engine) and was infuriated with pretty much everything about it. The couplings broke, the front dummy coupler broke, it kept hopping it's front wheel off the track and derailing... Yeah suffice to say, your roasting of this set on an open fire was very much warranted.
@WinterroSP10 күн бұрын
You should try one of those German Pacifics one day. Maybe the locomotives don’t have the best livery, however, there’s just something about these that looks so mesmerizing
@andrewroe558610 күн бұрын
Hi Sam. Look on the bright side you've now got more American rolling stock ( you've complaimed before about not having a lot ) and by changing the wheels to metal ones they will run better. Has for the engine surly it can be used as a base for a new 3d printed loco of your own design.
@plainswell11 күн бұрын
The skinny font used on the box was almost mandatory on Hollywood film posters from the 1950's through to the1990's and is possibly still used for some. The taller and skinnier, the more pretentious the film and its advertising...
@davidlowndes290510 күн бұрын
P0
@RocktCityTim9 күн бұрын
I have that set running around my tree right now - except for the engine. The engineer side driving rod ate itself after 4 hours of running. If you're keeping it, be sure to oil it and tighten all of the screws. I've replaced it with a 43 year old Athearn Atlantic Coast Line F7 A/B pair. Since I have a box full of Kadee couplers, I replaced the static Bachmann couplers. Oh yes - I got mine on clearance for $74 six years ago. As for the steel track, Bachmann also dropped Steel track 20 years ago - that's how old these sets really are. I replaced that stuff with a loop of Kato UniTrack.
@1earedwolf11 күн бұрын
Steel track? Well that's Bachmann on the naughty list this year.
@SamsTrains10 күн бұрын
haha absolutely!!
@crazythomas385 күн бұрын
Bro is reviewing a starter set expecting it to have high-end features like a phly wheel or metal axels. It's just a starter set and should be judged for what it is instead of what you wished it had. After the target, the demographic would be happy with what they get. In the starter set.
@Brianhall11745 күн бұрын
I agree. I bought this set just to have under the tree and it is perfectly fine for that. I bought this knowing it was a cheap Christmas set that I would have out for maybe two months of the year.
@gamerfan84455 күн бұрын
The funny thing is that hornby do the exact thing, but with less items.
@robertknight467210 күн бұрын
A set like this typically comes with what we call an 18 inch radius curve in the United States. I don't know what the UK equivalent is for that It probably does say the curve radius somewhere on the underside of the track bed but it will.bevin inchs.
@kclassproductions9 күн бұрын
It never gets old watching Sam rip up the paper for Bachmann's catalogues!