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@huaweiallc132 ай бұрын
even way older huawei beat the newest samsung HUAWEIs technology is miles better
@darugdawg2453Ай бұрын
so what is the 200M purpose in samsungs settings?
@janiss29265 күн бұрын
@@darugdawg2453 it's a sensor that does pixel binning from 4x4 grid to one for 12mp and 2x2 for 50mp, the older 108mp sensor did a 3x3 grid to 12mp. there is no point putting that many pixels in such a tiny sensor and optics where light can't get to it properly, that's why low light images and videos on phones are so ugly and full of noise and night modes rely on long exposures and taking multiple shots and then combining them together, so it's not even the real frame you're looking at in the end. plus good luck capturing a fast moving object that way. Only serious cameras with big sensors and lenses will do, just thinking about it logically - a big sensor with less megapixels will have the best low light performance.
@downlink_x9 ай бұрын
Nice comparison. Finally someone who takes almost 1:1 identical shots for the comparison. Good work!
@elestudiodebuenavista6288 ай бұрын
Yeah, I haven't seen someone do such a well-done 1:1 comparison. This guy did a 💯 job. Most people out there who compares cameras to this phone just shows a side by side with no zoom on the photos to show the detail in both cameras.
@n123v8 ай бұрын
Российский обозреватель «Филл» делал тоже самое на ютубе пару месяцев назад) Nikon vs несколько телефонов.
@ajnazatahm8 ай бұрын
Agreed, nice and straight forward. Would love one of these a year. And would prefer comparisons with less phone software processing on the image, like the optional AI processing on the Samsung. I’m excited to see the day phone cameras truly can compete with DSLRs, maybe with just a lens adaptor added 😁
@EddoWagt8 ай бұрын
@@ajnazatahm I don't think that's going to happen without a lot of AI processing, in the end it's simply physics that limit the smaller sensors
@Nahan_Boker947 ай бұрын
Agreed a lot of comparison clearly unfair since the camera is using a lens that no smartphone ever had, better angles on camera or the one who compared it have zero photography skills lol
@radistrumin9 ай бұрын
People nowadays forget that in the and of day this is a PHONE. Just appreciate what an amazing quality photos you are able to make with a phone!
@photonik-luminescence9 ай бұрын
Thing is, it really is mind blowing how good phones are. Obviously when boundaries must be pushed, the phones quality becomes Morecambe obvious. For me, a external camera is essential since astrophotography is photography of stellar objects using a telescope so camera choice is important. External cameras and cameras in general beat phones (dur to the mountinf system to lens). In the worst case, people brag about their fake x100 time zoom S23 and it is annoying and ridiculous but what ever.
@Ezrabastian9 ай бұрын
It's not a phone, far from it. It's a super compact, powerful computer
@harendotesabydos46199 ай бұрын
It is more a text computer then a phone. I don't see so many people who use this thing as a phone nowadays.
@SpiritWolf2099 ай бұрын
Yes, the fact that the it is a phone is amazing. Let's also not forget that the phone is about $1,000 less than the camera.
@WrongButtonWB9 ай бұрын
@OP, Nah, it's not just a phone, with a price tag of 1500€, it has to be more than a phone, to justify the cost of owning.
@largon20089 ай бұрын
To be comparing any phone with the capability of going against a real camera is just mind blowing to me. Great job!
@CLVlogs059 ай бұрын
I second this@@Globetrotter-1
@bb-ioan9 ай бұрын
@@Globetrotter-1 compared to the Sony A7 IV, it does suck :)
@vashirvadam9 ай бұрын
please bothe of you ..go and suck outside please @@Globetrotter-1 @Arcticfox7
@ilaion118 ай бұрын
@@bb-ioan you are laughable because the sensor in the Z7 II is actually better both at DR and noise that what SONY put in the A7 IV! It seems you don't know your stuff...
@GauravDevrani-cc7vr8 ай бұрын
The sole purpose of this video is to show that any phone, in fact the most powerful phone with 3-4-5-6-7 cameras doesn’t have the capability to go against a real camera 😂
@eric.ko.9 ай бұрын
The main issue I've always had with smart phone cams is the dynamic range and the over sharpening. Kills images when going for Landscape shots. Great video
@Maksp9 ай бұрын
Try it with another phone. Google pixel is good 🔥
@Sabre9129 ай бұрын
@@Maksp still the dynamic range, depth of field, the color science, the over sharpening and fake moon shots ( samsung) on a cellphone still have a long way to go.. compared to a simple point and shoot.. cell phones are unbeaten.. but an actual camera with a sensor at least 10 times the size of a cellphone is going to get alot more data from the picture than a cellphone will ever will... now if you like to do pictures for like instagram and facebook.. go ahead cellphone is the way to go! but if im taking pictures of my kids graduation,, a machine dedicated to capture lifes moments in its best form...a Canon, Sony, or Nikon is the way to go!
@mralexlex9 ай бұрын
@@MakspHave you ever use FF dslr or milc camera?
@petrpohnan8759 ай бұрын
@@Maksp Well, it is only "good". The DR is directly determined by the effective size of each pixel. That is why phones are tailing far behind a real cameras.
@OttoLP8 ай бұрын
the pixels can only output 12mp, which is a bit low for many use cases@@Maksp
@someusername18728 ай бұрын
Expert RAW is essentially computational RAW that outputs JPEG/RAW hybrids. That's why in the underexposure tests the Samsung falls apart introducing weird smudgy, blotchy artifacts and color casts when you push the exposure up while the Nikon doesn't. Photos from Expert RAW are definitely better than regular JPEGs but I wouldn't call them true RAW files as they have many characteristics of smartphone JPEG processing, which sort of defeats the purpose of shooting in RAW in the first place. It's really only useful for scenes with very wide dynamic range, low-light scenarios where Pro mode tends to introduce far more noise or shooting in 50MP as the 50MP samples I've shot just in Pro mode on my S23U are somehow less detailed than the 12MP samples even at base ISO and Expert RAW's processing seems to fix this issue. I'd personally steer clear of Expert RAW if you shoot in RAW often
@donnawetter15137 ай бұрын
Since Feburary 2023 ProMode does not produce useable raw any more, it has the same dynamic range as the jpg and Adobe De-Noise can't work them because they are to much preprocessed.
@lelouchlamperouge59106 ай бұрын
@@donnawetter1513 This is false for my S24 as of now, though. Also, you can disable most processing. Pro give you much better dynamic range than jpeg if you shoot raw, I haven't compared it to ExpertRaw though because on internet there are comparisons already and ExpertRaw is pretty bad on those, so this video should be remade.
@spamare5 ай бұрын
@@lelouchlamperouge5910 Are you able to use the raw converter's own demosaicing method or is Expert RAW already demosaiced?
@lelouchlamperouge59103 ай бұрын
@@spamare Expert RAW is already demosaiced as I understand (I have never done that process in my life so I think most if not all apps on PlayStore will shoot demosaiced already on S24 and S24 ultra) but just don't shoot on that Expert RAW shit, it ks pretty bad. Shoot on Pro Camera, I don't see anything that Expert RAW cam offer. Alternatively , if you want even better RAWs I did a in depth comparison of many RAW camera apps and it goes like this: Expert RAW < Pro Camera < Any RAW App < Open Camera. I don't know why, but Open Camera is giving the best RAWs, only drawback is that it doesn't give RAWs for the Telephoto, and they haven't fix this bug in month.
@zorankarapancev29369 ай бұрын
The simple fact that we can compare the S24 Ultra PHONE camera to FF Nikon Z7II speaks volumes. The FF sensor is more forgiving and has a better dynamic range, that is given. But with careful setting S24 (also S23) will give you very good to excellent images. If you want less default sharpening of the pictures you should download free Samsung Camera Assistant and with this app adjust sharpening to "Medium" (Picture softening), something that I use and recommend. P.S. I have Nikon D750 and Samsung S23.
@riccizepmeusel68999 ай бұрын
This simple setting is not carried out in any test or comparison. It would be embarrassing if a smartphone beat the expensive competition, right? 😉
@Desert-edDave9 ай бұрын
@@riccizepmeusel6899 A phone physically can't beat it. Lol layman fanboys.
@BrutallHawk8 ай бұрын
@@Desert-edDave but with software they might
@charles-antoinemartel-roy8 ай бұрын
@@Desert-edDaveMaybe if you print the picture, but if you're going to post it on social media like Instagram, it probably doesn't matter at this point. Your scene capturing skills are going to matter far more than the camera you're using.
@fizzcochito8 ай бұрын
This is mainly due to how nobody prints their photos. Like yeah no shit, if you only view your images on a phone screen it's going to look decent no matter the camera.
@iiEnIgMaii8 ай бұрын
considering the prices of both, the ability to carry around, the progress made in the latest years, phones are getting really really good.
@GamingInfested5 ай бұрын
for me nothing will beat dslr. I own 2 mirrorless.
@MartinVanBoven4 ай бұрын
Just never either take photos in non-optimal conditions, or enlarge them. Phone cams have become really good precisely and only in the easiest use case, and for viewing on a phone screen.
@JustGolight4 ай бұрын
@@GamingInfestedthats the point....
@moriyamakyon10673 ай бұрын
for everyday use - phones are great but at the same time some individuals claim that they can beat dslr
@BlackParade01Ай бұрын
@@moriyamakyon1067sometimes, they can. This is a €3000 camera againt a weaker camera phone. Compare a €1500 camera to a Vivo X100 Ultra, and the phone will probably win too.
@ExploringWithJosh9 ай бұрын
your comparing a phone to a camera! to be honest i was expecting the nikon to look way better ! xD i guess when the iso goes up then the real test shows but its pretty nice to see where tech is going
@xOogieBoogie3x9 ай бұрын
Small sensors do great in good lighting. I have a small sensor bright camera with 1200mm zoom - in ideal light, it takes great pictures. But once the lighting gets poor, it falls apart.
@soundsaroundus94949 ай бұрын
I think if you can download the images on a computer and view them side by side, you’ll definitely see the difference
@syaondri8 ай бұрын
KZbin compression might helped Samsung's
@absinth2k18 ай бұрын
You are right. Compare in Bad light condition and you will see that phones cannot beat physiks. In bad light condition a Phone needs Up to 3 Seconds frames or stack a Lot of frames where my 75 mm can make single frames
@apexsosapex10148 ай бұрын
and nikon did way better actually, much more detail, samsung obviously not close to 50mp
@Aleshotgun7 ай бұрын
To be honest is pretty impressive that from a professional photography standpoint, a camera phone is not really that bad compared to a professional camera that costs almost the double! And by the way, those places where you took the shots are simply amazing! Most of them looks like a painting. Very picturesque.
@teres4_uwu9 ай бұрын
I would love to see comparison with the standard RAW from Pro mode. They aren't oversharpened and they're more like RAW from an actual camera.
@Desert-edDave9 ай бұрын
if the "mode" it is in matters, it's not an actual RAW file as is on a dedicated camera, but rather a processed mess that attempts to do what dedicated (actual) cameras do.
@jonathasantoz8 ай бұрын
@@Desert-edDaveYou can get the raw file, but only in pro mode. It's not like the phone tries to create a raw file, it's the real raw file. The "expert raw" is more like a processed image than an actual raw file. Get it?
@TechnoBabble5 ай бұрын
@@jonathasantoz I can guarantee you that it's not an actual raw file. It's still heavily processed, else it would be a noisy mess at anything other than the base ISO.
@rafisburganov4 ай бұрын
@@TechnoBabblehe's talking about unprocessed raw from pro mode from default camera app, not the crappy "expert raw" app. It saves real information from the sensor. You'll even have all the noises if the lighting condition is not perfect like back in the day with compact pocket cameras
@Artem4egg_Ай бұрын
@@rafisburganovoh the beauty of pro mode, holy cow. my eyes really commit die when looking at S20U raws
@kanehi32759 ай бұрын
Samsung does have a "Pro" setting with ISO, shutter, EV, white balance settings and selective focus. People who uses cell phones wants that immediate satisfaction of having the pictures and sharing them to social media. I've blown up an image to poster size using a Samsung image and it held up well. Each camera has it's niche and using either one is fine.
@Scottie_McNaughty9 ай бұрын
I love that this was done with the same model of phone AND Camara I have. What a fun coincidence... Great vid btw
@ZJMichaels9 ай бұрын
Haha that's awesome
@piyushbasutkar82702 ай бұрын
It's been 10 years that smartphone companies are FOOLING people with their MegaPixel numbers, and people still haven't got around the fact that more MegaPixels doesn't mean better camera.
@ExlommАй бұрын
mega pixels matters if you dont want your photos looking like it was taken back in 2014🤓
@charlesa3505Ай бұрын
More is always good 🤓
@fortich_officialАй бұрын
Bro, again, megapixel does not so much for picture quality. The sensor size means. An camera has a normal 1inch sensor. The phone in 2014 haves very very croped sensor, and if it will have 1 inch sensor, anyway it will be trash cause the proccesor and other, in 2014 they dont have so much power as now, so they just cant procces that image. Now we have almost 1 inch sensor in phones like vivo x100 pro, s24 ultra, and others. And we also have a good hardware, like snap 8 gen 3, much more ram, so the proccesor can handle that image. And that is that what really means in taking a picture. So the MegaPixels, is not that important. @@Exlomm
@Jacob-dunneАй бұрын
Yea your right, the phones these days (or 99% of them) stack multiple of the same image to create a higher resolution 👍
@Aphorism89Ай бұрын
@@Exlomm Literally they don´t. You can rarely tell the difference between 25 and 45MP in a high end mirrorless.
@koolpep8 ай бұрын
Wow, in good light these cameras perform so well for years already. Amazing what phone cameras can do.
@photoentusiasta8 ай бұрын
Finally someone competent to show a decent test between a camera and a smartphone... I liked the mention of the diaphragm informing that we get a greater depth of field in cameras and in smartphones the aperture is fixed. Nobody mentions this... You gained a subscriber!!!
@Bayonet18098 ай бұрын
Samsung used to have a bi-variable aperture in some of their older phones (e.g. Galaxy S9). With phones getting larger sensors I would like to see that make a return too, otherwise there can be insufficient depth of field.
@cricketarena49267 ай бұрын
Its been only 1 year , your video quality grows everyday
@HazakunaJr8 ай бұрын
Real comparison by Real expert. This kind a video is what I was looking for
@KarelBrendl9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review! For the phone, the pictures are acceptable, but 5x is definitely behind the primary camera. I moved from a large camera to a Sony a6600, but in some cases, the camera is still not very practical (kids walk). Knowing that the phone is getting closer with quality is excellent. I will wait to swap my camera for a phone, but for quick walks, reasonable alternative.
@marcoscarloss89229 ай бұрын
amazing comparison, especially by using the RAW files of the S24 Ultra and the Nikon. If possible it would be interesting to see a similar comparison between the S24 Ultra and Iphone 15 Pro Max, using the RAW files of both with Dynanmic Range test.
@ZJMichaels9 ай бұрын
Good idea, thanks!
@donnawetter15139 ай бұрын
I would be interesting to see the comparison once Samsung fixes their RAW files.
@nevvanclarke92259 ай бұрын
The problem with phones is they don't create an immersive experience. As soon as you get into Photography with a phone you will be instantly be sharing your photos and you've lost the moment you've lost the pure joy of taking photos.
@vueport999 ай бұрын
if only they'd remove the horrible sharpening. After all, Raw should be just that, RAW! They can photo stack all they want for color / dynamic range, but why did they have to sharpen a RAW file?!!
@larrynicholson59139 ай бұрын
@nevvanclarke9225 personally I disagree I think that's more about the person (or what they're wanting to achieve) than the equipment.
@TheAndrewBen9 ай бұрын
Great video! 4:00 I take serious consideration to zoom in 200%, instead of 1:1 because a lot of professionals zoom into 200% when fine tuning their images. The power of large DSLR sensors is still impressive when viewing a perfectly sharp photo at double the size, which is where smartphone cameras will always fall short.
@TarrelScot8 ай бұрын
Speaking as someone who still lugs a camera around, this was reassuring! It would be interesting to see a comparison of "straight" raw files (i.e not combined). With the under-exposed shots in particular, it looks like the phone's software just didn't have enough data to play with.
@andr1019 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! This is the comparison I've been waiting for. It would be interesting to analyze the standard raw mode as well, to examine the dynamic range differences between standard and expert raw, and to see if, with fewer computational tricks, the 5x lens can capture more detail. Additionally, it would be interesting to review images downsampled to 25 megapixels, which is still an acceptable resolution for printing, and to see if the detail loss compared to Nikon is still noticeable.
@dailyDorc6 ай бұрын
Was also curious to see the standard raw. The AI blend of expert raw would make sense that finer details would be smoothed out was sort of disappointed we didn't get an apples to apples look at a single shot raw photo
@madhats139 ай бұрын
Great comparison, thanks for doing this! I think the Samsung is delivering incredible results for the size of the sensor and lenses.
@ZJMichaels9 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah I agree… great results considering the sensor & lens size on the phone
@nevvanclarke92259 ай бұрын
The problem with phone Photography is that it's not immersive it's instantaneously and have you ever seen anyone put their phone into Aeroplane Mode when they're taking photos no they will soon become distracted by that Instagram pop-up all that Facebook notification people instantly then reply to that and then go back to taking the photo this is why I do not recommend phones for Photography and it's got nothing to do with the quality of the photo or the image or the sensor or anything else it's the purpose of immersion.
@LeeMansfield9 ай бұрын
agreed - wait until they introduce a new 1" sensor on the S25 :)
@vueport999 ай бұрын
@@ZJMichaels simply amazing.. imagine hiking thru the woods and no having to carry a huge backpack and a massive Carbon tripod. Mind Blown!
@danpro.u5 ай бұрын
@@LeeMansfieldS25 nebude mít 1".
@rakhimberdiyevt9 ай бұрын
The fact that we have to zoom in and pixelpeep nowadays to definitely say which one is better speaks volumes. Of course they are not even close. But just how much power we can just carry with us daily in our pockets is amazing.
@tarpara9 ай бұрын
“The best camera is the one you have in your pocket” is a quote I live by
@realamericannegro9775 ай бұрын
You don't have to pixel peep to see the camera is leagues better
@Chipicat_balls4 ай бұрын
Agree
@MartinVanBoven4 ай бұрын
I'd say it's the other way around. That because most people now view photos exclusively on miniscule phone screens, an opening has been made to market devices that make most people think they take acceptable photos.
@tonymorris43354 ай бұрын
You don't if you're looking at the actual images on your own display, but on a compressed youtube video the pixel zoom is the only way to see it. It's more obvious in real world editing.
@ttp_007Ай бұрын
Aperture is king! If Samsung comes up with a phone with larger sensor and the option to attach an external 20-25mm lens to it for a more professional result, it will be a game changer for many photographers.
@TechnoBabble5 ай бұрын
I'm glad you showed dynamic range and high ISO performance. So many of these comparisons seem to be hell bent on only showing situations in which you can almost match a dedicated camera. Thank you for not just doing wide angle, broad daylight portraits.
@Meg_A_Byte5 ай бұрын
Exactly. In ideal conditions, it's very easy to say phone camera is basically on par with regular cameras, but outside of that, it does fall apart very quickly.
@maksimlapaev72925 ай бұрын
Достойный результат для телефона! Я думаю всем понятно что телефоны всегда будут отставать от хороших камер, но ониуже приблизились к качеству сьемки на камеру
@mijalic125 күн бұрын
Thank you for your time and effort to make this video and share your knowledge with us. Greetings from Croatia.
@geo2theo9 ай бұрын
The difference is that Samsung literally produces images (by calculating) while Nikon reflects the image in most accurate way possible with today's technology.
@kobiorama9 ай бұрын
Very good comparison. It would be interesting to see what happens with the regular RAW files since I assume that the over sharpening is part of the "expert" raw files function. In general - a phone camera is for posting small images to social media, unless you are shooting at daylight with a correct exposure
@MarkoMood9 ай бұрын
Why do you say that? It's not like you can't work with phones just like a pro camera. If you're shooting at night, you simply increase the exposure and always shoot at ISO 50. Exposure bracketed 50MP RAWs look great when stitched and processed manually.
@Desert-edDave9 ай бұрын
@@MarkoMood Go ahead an adjust aperture on a phone lens... oh yea, there is none, it's entirely software-based. 😆No, you can't 'work' phones like a 'pro(re: real)' camera, try to 'work' another lens on there. 🤣. Also , FYI, ISO is more akin to a measurement of gain, not light sensitivity like ASA in the film days. Software emulating is always going to sacrifice something. There's a reason why cameras are used for actual (more than mere snapshots) photography and phones are considered toys by comparison. Live with both (e.g. have experience on the topic) and you'll only pick up the phone to snap a photo if you don't already have the camera nearby.
@kipkipper-lg9vlАй бұрын
almost no one is carrying a full size camera around anywhere if they are not prefessional or very enthusiastic about photography to be fair, most people won't be able to really tell much difference at a glance
@ZA-7Ай бұрын
Dude got touched @@Desert-edDave
@IIISentorIII9 ай бұрын
Did you test the "virtual" ND-filters on the phone? I just came home from a week Snowboarding in Verbier Switzerland and made some amazing shots and 8k 30fps footage but did not test those ND settings yet.
@peto19869 ай бұрын
I was wondering how to use them
@SMGJohn8 ай бұрын
"amazing" 8k shots, LOL
@UnderTakerSN18 ай бұрын
It's amazing from his experience and perspective,. What's with the "Lol"?? @@SMGJohn
@TechnoBabble5 ай бұрын
@@UnderTakerSN1just the fact that the resolution of smartphones is essentially just marketing, especially for video. 8k video from smartphones usually looks worse than decent 1080p on a dedicated camera.
@607racing2 ай бұрын
@@TechnoBabblecategorically false
@twalker2949 ай бұрын
I would love to see a comparison of expert RAW vs. standard RAW from the Pro photo mode on the S24. The Expert RAW files are most definitely NOT RAW at all. I can take the same photo in Expert RAW and Pro mode on the standard camera app and the RAW from Expert RAW is 3-4 megs whereas the RAW from Pro mode is 40+ megs and is obviously a true RAW file. Great video and I look forward to seeing more from you on the S24.
@tobiinmadeira9 ай бұрын
This will be a good comparison to see.
@ZJMichaels9 ай бұрын
Thanks. Yeah I am planning on doing a comparison like that
@123Balinda9 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks a lot! I personally know that I would love to see a video comparison between Samsung's "normal" RAW files and ExpertRAW
@haugiangmotovlog38399 ай бұрын
Expert RAW is better! I'M Using 23U, only shot ExpertRAW!
@jakilahmoulien90709 ай бұрын
ExpertRaw is a gimmick for pro photographers. You get more dynamic range but it's very digital looking with more artifacts.
@shyhandiq9 ай бұрын
I do find expert raw photos bit artificial and oversharpened. Normal raw looks good. I use normal raw photos.
@White75619 ай бұрын
THIS. I saw that on ExpertRAW you get nifty features like the virtual ND filters etc. But we CAN'T disable the processing there. Sometimes it looks awful. Also. if you notice, the RAW files on the normal Pro mode is like CRAZY big compared to the ExpertRAW RAW files. It's like it's not actually a RAW file. I saw that for one of my picture, I got below 10MB of ExpertRAW RAW size, compared to like 40MB on the Pro mode RAW. I think there is something going on there
@mralexlex9 ай бұрын
@@White7561every raw file is cooked, in every pro camera or phone. How much, depends on company...
@facepalmingskeleton7 ай бұрын
Really appreciate this comparison I was looking for 👍
@thomastessier45296 ай бұрын
Professionals will always shoot with a fixed body and replaceable lenses. However, for the vast majority of the population, these new high quality phones, and there are a lot of them, do way better than many people want and most of them taken on a phone are rarely printed out. And the phones make it so much easier to travel with a good quality "camera" that fits in your pocket versus a big bag of bodies, lenses, filters, etc.
@RikkyTangАй бұрын
I just got a S24 Ultra and I'm glad I persisted with my search through YT for relevant videos. Firstly, thanks for a well produced, detailed and nicely paced comaparison of the S24 vs a decent mirrorless camera. Secondly I want to congratulate you on having a break through video on your channel! I'd love to have a video with over 100k views on my channel with 4.3k Subs and here you are with over 600k views at under 6k Subs - and it's well deserved!
@lennyvlaminov94809 ай бұрын
Autofocus and low light capabilities would be nice to see
@JohnSmith-tx3ys9 ай бұрын
Agreed. It’s an amazing phone, no doubt. But my a7iii plus my favorite prime lens ( 55mm f1.8) sells for a little more than this phone costs. I can take portraits of my kids that look like magazine shots and I’m a newbie.
@850Tech9 ай бұрын
These are the comparisons we need.
@stealthis17 күн бұрын
It takes an actual photographer to make them unlike somebody who just turns churns content
@danielschmaderer5 ай бұрын
Anytime I edit with my camera vs phone camera, I always see the over processing the phone spits out. The small sensor just can’t do what a full frame or even an APS-C sensor can do. That being said, the phone cameras are pretty good for what they are and it’s honestly impressive that we can make this type of comparison these days. Still don’t see myself doing bird photography with a phone anytime soon.
@agepbiz6 ай бұрын
Great comparison! I am amazed by the photo quality of modern high end phones, but it was also interesting to see the cases where the quality broke apart
9 ай бұрын
Really interesting video about a subject people asked about. Thanks!
@MichaelSchmittEleven9 ай бұрын
Given that the S24U is capable of much more than just taking photos, the image quality is astounding! 😀 Thx for a great comparison!
@andr1019 ай бұрын
P.S. I don't intend to spread misinformation, but I recently came across a comment on another video stating that the expert raw mode comprises a stack of 8-bit JPGs, whereas the normal raw mode is 12-bit. If this information is accurate, it could be really worthwhile to conduct a comparison of highlight recovery between the two modes.
@ZJMichaels9 ай бұрын
If you look at Samsung's info on Expert Raw, they say "Expert RAW lets you effortlessly shoot in Linear DNG 16-bit RAW files with even greater clarity and a wider dynamic range than regular RAW files" www.samsung.com/uk/explore/photography/3-reasons-why-you-should-shoot-with-expert-raw/ I couldn't find info on any of Samsung's pages regarding the actual types of images used in the stacking process, but I saw that Tom's Guide says "Expert RAW's main benefit is that its images are made up of several RAW exposures blended together, instead of a single frame like standard RAW photos" www.tomsguide.com/features/why-i-love-samsung-expert-raw-in-galaxy-s22-and-how-it-beats-iphone-proraw Of course, not everything on the internet is accurate, but this is basically the info I have to go off of. If there's reliable info out there that gives more insight into how the ExpertRaw files are created, do please share. I do agree that it would be worthwhile to compare the two types of Raw files. I'll likely do that at some point in the not too distant future.
@k7ufo8192 ай бұрын
Just being able to compare both already says a lot about how far they've got. Good enough for most people
@SonicHawk905 ай бұрын
Its amazing to see that phones have gotten so good that people have to go to this length to find fault with smartphone pictures.
@niqart8 ай бұрын
The most detailed comparison between cellphone and FF 42mp above camera. Great work dude....
@Ferocious_Imbecile9 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I'm looking forward to having a camera in my pocket that can perform like that, even if it's not all that the Nikon could be. Just always having that luxury of being able to grab something at that quality on your person all the time is awesome.
@BillNyeX694 ай бұрын
This video was put together really well. Amazing comparisons.
@Andy-cc4qy22 күн бұрын
I wonder when smartphone producers start to realize that excessive sharpness isn't a good thing
@AhaOk239823 күн бұрын
That's why I just bought my first proper camera yesterday. No matter how good the phone, if you zoom it's a mess. Oversharpening is just so damn bad.
@ParetoEmperor-jp6ke9 ай бұрын
still cannot beat the nature of sensor size to get more lights and details.
@Desert-edDave9 ай бұрын
Never mind lenses.
@HomelessShoe9 ай бұрын
That's just physics...there's only so much you can do with software (it became significantly better though). Bigger lense means it can capture more details.
@sullivan9125 ай бұрын
Not to mention the glass. The best of sensors will produce mediocre output when paired with poor quality glass.
@Schwabinator0038 ай бұрын
Great comparison! Please do another one with the regular pro mode, I feel like the pictures rather lose detail in expertRaw mode.
@morandioficial8 ай бұрын
Guys, please remember, this is a phone... This quality on a f*cking phone, is just superb. It is obvious that a full frame camera will be better, but think about it: If you're not a professional, the samsung camera will just be over your expectations, no matter the situation.
@striderwhiston98977 ай бұрын
Not when the phone costs just as much as the camera which outperforms it in every metric, and outside of landscape photography? the z7 absolutely destroys the samsung. You can get better image quality on a £150 used decade old DSLR than a brand new samsung
@telfer33882 ай бұрын
@@striderwhiston9897 But you dont buy the phone just for the camera. You buy the phone for literally hundreds of different pursposes and of top of that as a bonus you have a great camera in your pocket. So it is really hard to compare prices here. A camera is just that - a camera. But how much the other things in your phone are worth to you ? The GPS, MAPS, Google services. Social networking, Mail, Thousands off different apps, Video calls , normal calls, Health monitoring etc etc. If the phone only had the capability to take pictures then we could compare prices and take a piss out of the phone. But then again it would not be a phone then , it would be just a camera.
@chilly1661Ай бұрын
@@striderwhiston9897What you’ve said is so stupid it’s not even worth expressing why.
@adorpАй бұрын
@@telfer3388 you buy a top end phone for bragging rights. All my friends use Galaxy S24 and IPhone pro max, while I still use a poco phone. With my phone, I can do every essential task they can. I will rather pair this poco or a Moto G series with an used DSLR.
@johnbranham97568 ай бұрын
I also just purchased the S24 Ultra to replace my S21 Ultra and I also own the Nikon Z7ii. The detail that the 1x lens on the S24 resolves is pretty impressive. Now for low light, or as your comparison shows dynamic range, the Nikon quickly pulls away, but you have to think that this is just a cell phone and how far technology has come. The largest improvement that the S24 brought compared to my S21 is that it nails focus. My 108MP mode shots on the S21 were great when they were in focus, but it missed focus 50% of the time and when you're in bright sunlight it's hard to see if you have a keeper. Thank you for the comparison, I enjoyed it!
@joachimkracher96139 ай бұрын
A great and realistic comparison. In the photo with the waterfall, I noticed that the Samsung tends to have small artifacts (in the water). I wouldn't do long exposures with it.
@sanji6633 ай бұрын
This gotta be the best comparison videos I've seen
@slawekt.20779 ай бұрын
Amazing comparison 😊 But we have to notice that when you making picture you are watching it how it is. You are not zooming it. Only when you want to print it as a big wallpaper or something. Otherwise for me some pictures looks better on samausung.
@Shape84Ай бұрын
It's true. However, zooming in to 200% shows what is actually in the photo. The problem with cameras on phones is a significant loss of detail (blur). This test shows it perfectly.
@marcusnathan26509 ай бұрын
Nice video... did you disable scene optimization on the Samsung?
@shyhandiq9 ай бұрын
Scene optimisation doesn't work in pro photo mode.
@WrongButtonWB9 ай бұрын
It should be off, all the time, if you care about the pics you wanna take. ;)
@Noplan6 ай бұрын
People nowadays forget that in the and of day this is a digital CAMERA. Just appreciate what an amazing quality photos you are able to make with a digital CAMERA!
@brabb1t_5269 ай бұрын
Try using the Pro mode on the Samsung. It shouldn't do any processing to the files and shouldn't look oversharpened like that. It will still be behind the Nikon, but I'm just curious how the Pro RAW files look compared to ExpertRAW.
@Desert-edDave9 ай бұрын
All phones do to images is process them. They do not have interchangeable lenses, and the lenses they do have do not have a physical aperture. They use software to attempt to compensate for poor dynamic range and color accuracy. Phones only *try* their best through software to emulate what dedicated cameras do naturally, with sub-par results.
@jonathasantoz8 ай бұрын
@@Desert-edDaveObviously! It has nothing to do with what was said above.
@damage9688 ай бұрын
As someone who got into photography after buying a S23 ultra this video hits home. After 2-3 months of owning the s23u I bought a Sony A7 IV and the picture quality is just not even close. The samsung phones are pretty amazing and they can do some incredible stuff but it's still an enourmous gap between phones and professional cameras
@Xiquinhodasilva998 ай бұрын
Yes! I don't know why people keep comparing smartphones with Full Frame cameras or APSC .
@damage9688 ай бұрын
@@Xiquinhodasilva99 it's bc smartphones have indeed come a long way and actually for people who create content for social media it's gotten to a point where a good phone can meet most of the needs
@mikegarwood86809 ай бұрын
It's all about the sensor size, not megapixels.
@amcikyarak8 ай бұрын
Why is he talking so negatively about the Samsung results? The results are outstanding! Above all, with the S24 Ultra you can take photos in 200 megapixels or set everything yourself in Pro mode, etc.
@WhatThePheel9 ай бұрын
Considering the price of a pro camera is more than double the cost of a phone, it did amazingly well.
@Desert-edDave9 ай бұрын
Can get better results from a camera that costs the same as the phone. ;)
@ivarnordlkken80829 ай бұрын
Then consider that rhe sensor in a phone is tiny small compared to any system cameras, including Pentax Q.
@WhatThePheel8 ай бұрын
@@Desert-edDave Make an comparison, lets see that theory
@CMaxFlms8 ай бұрын
@WhatThePheel I did the comparison between my Nikon D5300 and my Samsung S23U nothing much of a difference unless I started heavy color grading my files, the D5300 held up well but when I edited the Samsung it fell apart after using most of the color wheels. A camera body does not really matter in terms of quality, it's the lens that gives it power while smartphones is the Ai, it also depends on what you are capturing. Phones will be a hard pass to sports and wildlife photography, it may be good for landscapes but it is due that landscapes are generally dependent on the editing and hoe you see the photo. Phones will never beat a professional camera in a mile, Fuji cameras have better colors than any phone could offer, Nikon is generally just average, Sony has better video features, Lumix offers good video while maintaining cost, Canon has good color science and overall good photo quality. While phones on the other hand can offer quick and easy snaps but can never have the same complexity as a Full frame or a Medium format camera
@WhatThePheel8 ай бұрын
@@CMaxFlms Exactly, if it were to be a kit lens. I'm sure the quality wouldn't be on par with the Samsung phone. But if you're using a 1k-2k+ lens, it just defeats the purpose of comparison.
@geekbuy82Ай бұрын
I would like to see some macro or nature photography, when a quick shutter speed is crucial.
@TheRealLink9 ай бұрын
As a pro photographer, I was curious to see how your comparisons would hold up. Obviously amazing differences once you cranked the ISO, and yeah it's pretty darned good for a phone, but I still prefer my big large camera, haha.
@sharpasacueball8 ай бұрын
For me it's nice to be able to take shots with something I can fit in my pocket
@JPStaats8 ай бұрын
@@sharpasacueball "taking shots" is not really the intention of a "big large camera". Smartphones have however replaced point&shoot cameras, as was expected.
@bigbluespike56458 ай бұрын
A very well made comparison.
@jamespulver38909 ай бұрын
Phone cameras are fine to good for snapshots. I've heard the AI and improvements are going to pass real cameras in a couple years for over 5 years now. Still hasn't happened. As I've learned more in my hobby, I've found more and more that I can't do with a phone, or can't do as easily. The biggest thing is lack of controls on a phone means you're slow to change settings, which can mean missing shots, or going with a less than ideal default setting. They still don't handle zoom that well, and detail is usually lacking. OTOH, the immediate post processing in the phone really helps if you want to snap and share immediately.
@lensman57629 ай бұрын
Samsung and Apple are already using AI in their phones to optimise the data from the sensor. Its just not widly advertised. The Raw files are also not exactly Raw, as a lot of data manipulation , noise reduction, and presharpening is applied within the camera ( look at the section ( that he compares the sharpness in the video ). They are what they are and are here to stay, but not for me. I am sure other people will have their own opinion on this.
@carlosandreviana94489 ай бұрын
@@lensman5762 yes. raw files on phones are a marketing lie
@luckysonani8288Ай бұрын
Finally a smart comparison guy who is a bit technical
@carltercak47428 ай бұрын
For the 99% of population this is black magic 😁 . 0.1% of the phone users know basics of the photography.
@pizzablender4 ай бұрын
More and more people are learning photography (as in composing an image, managing lighting) than ever before thanks to the instant feedback these days. On screens and from friends.
@lennardschubert11475 ай бұрын
Its crazy that you have to bump up the ISO or go to 100% zoom to really see a difference between it. Now imagine this comparison 10 years ago
@betl59829 ай бұрын
For a casual non professional person the S24 Ultra is good enough with differences in costs of buying a high/pro quality camera and portability.
@larrynicholson59139 ай бұрын
In addition, there is a learning curve, knowledge, and experience required to use a "professional" camera effectively. Smartphone cameras enable general users to capture reasonably good images. It is likely that they would not be able to achieve significantly better results even if they used a "proper" camera. Whereas a 'professional' photographer will get better than average images using a smartphone. For me, these comparisons truly emphasize the remarkable progress that phone cameras have made. It is somewhat analogous to comparing the acceleration capabilities of a Ferrari and a Mini on a racetrack. However, in typical, everyday traffic conditions, there would not be any noticeable difference between the two.
@banderastube8 ай бұрын
Imagine, a dedicated video camera and a smartphone comparing , they are almost the same in quality, how much smartphones tech evolved these days, awesome
@syedjaffar3109 ай бұрын
the answer is simple. They're photographer... professional. Give them whatever phone they'll utilize it fully.
@patricklacson6 ай бұрын
Excellent comparison! The fact that you're comparing a phone camera to a 45mp DSLR is just nuts. Samsung, like all phones, rely upon AI processing to fill out the details that are missed with the smaller sensors. But what an amazing phone the S24 Ultra is! If I'm hiking in those scenes, 100% I would rather carry a phone than a big bulky DSLR for minimal gains.
@BashirSensei5 ай бұрын
I wish the brainless people who saying "why people still buying cameras" to see this video
@imamwahyudi42598 ай бұрын
Amazing review👏👏, it is nice to see a proper photo comparison between smartphone camera vs full frame camera. I love it!
@mnewm215 ай бұрын
it just shows that as Google said, the quality of the software is becoming more important than the quality of the hardware. Considering most people never look at their photos on anything other than their phone most of the hardware benefits are irrelevant anyway. If it looks good on a 5" screen that is good enough! I print photos and it becomes pretty apparent that a real camera is best for large prints, but otherwise a phone these days is perfect for everything else.
@eggtortilla7 ай бұрын
Really nice apples to apples comparison between a phone and a camera.
@darkprofile6 ай бұрын
The difference is not so much if you remember one of them is just a phone with camera. If you will not print a billboard from that shot, the difference is not significant in digital platforms.
@AssosVideo8 ай бұрын
Great video and representation of all those images is awesome, it's also interesting how far phone cameras have come. For true professional results you can't go past a dedicated pro camera with at least a full frame sensor, imagine the comparison of full frame to medium format, size always matters 😊
@r423sdex9 ай бұрын
Do a print. You will be surprised how good the phone is.
@LordMitac9 ай бұрын
phones suck at landscape bro good for close up shots and thats about it
@djentlover4 ай бұрын
As long as you expose properly, that's pretty insane. And I think, if you're a person who develops raw files from your phone, you definitely know how to expose
@definingslawek47319 ай бұрын
Fundamentally, the tiny plastic lenses on phones aren’t capable of resolving 50mp of detail.
@pizzablender4 ай бұрын
@@enevii And smartphone lenses are the lenses getting the most design effort spent on. And the best levels of QC as well, it seems.
@Rain-DirtАй бұрын
Useful review! Thank you for sharing and taking the time.
@Kayserjp9 ай бұрын
its still a toy. not even close to real camera.
@lewcehjitl32829 ай бұрын
Better than Nikons whole Mirrorless for sure. Better autofocus, smaller, light weight and better battery life. Sounds like a win to me.
@ljacobs3579 ай бұрын
It’s a phone, not a toy. Of course it can’t compare.
@elram26499 ай бұрын
Nikon Camera FTW! All the way! I use the phone camera for scouting and personal time use. I use the Nikon for paid work. 💪😎👌
@rakeshadhikari55569 ай бұрын
For the size. Today's Mobile devices are for sure amazing leap in camera technology. Not replacement but definitely handy and go to
@mone67739 ай бұрын
Yeah but Nikon doesn't fit on my pocket, so no thanks to me.
@wernervandenbroek5 ай бұрын
Great video, very good and useful comparison! Are you able to create similar video using the Pixel 8 Pro? I've read that the RAW of Pixel 8 Pro is much better than Samsung, as there's less oversharpening on the Pixel 8 Pro RAW files, but I'm curious how that looks in practice.
@mmb8119 ай бұрын
No comparison, the Nikon wins hands down. Nice video
@SilentKeeperI9 ай бұрын
Can you watch a vid, text or even phone someone from the Nikon? And why it's double the price for results comparable only at great magnification, that I would never use posting on Instagram or making 15x10 prints? Easy win but for Samsung, since the results will be the same in this scenario, or even better from Samsung because of the default oversharpening, which looks nice when downscaled to a stamp for social media.
@JoeVanGoghАй бұрын
Id happily use either of these for capturing moments and memories in life
@ahmetemirakbulut9 күн бұрын
Amazing video! 😎👏🏻
@foxyroxy4043 ай бұрын
I'm still amazed at how good phones have become at taking photos. Especially portraits. If you showed me photos from modern phones 10 years ago, I wouldn't believe it 😮
@sealand0007 ай бұрын
I'm impressed; didn't think it would hold up that well.
@67cometАй бұрын
This is a good explination of what makes photography specific cameras relative with today's phone cameras. I have the hardest time explaining to my friends and family why I still use a photography camera to take my images (Pentax K-3 Mark iii in my case). I've got a Pixel 9 Pro, and the images are spectacular, but the versatility just isn't there for the types of photography I enjoy most (Street, abstract, portraits, landscapes - etc...) .. Nice work, thank you ..
@iphoneography4 ай бұрын
I remember it not being too long ago, traditional camera users were saying 'it'll never happen', but, here we are. It'll only get better for smartphone photography.
@YossStybel7 ай бұрын
I own a Z7ii and the 24-120 is one of my favourite lenses. I am also impressed by the image quality of the Samsung though, it is truly amazing. Thanks for the great video!
@John.Christopher8 ай бұрын
Amazing how great the camera is given the entire device is half the price of the other equipment!
@quite1enough8 ай бұрын
I'm pretty impressed what S24 can do
@Kingsman-198121 күн бұрын
Not only for MP for the quality, lens size is the most important factor 😅
@Khanal19752 ай бұрын
Excellent comparison. Thanks for the wonderful video.