Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra Camera vs Full Frame Pro Camera

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ZJ Michaels Photography

ZJ Michaels Photography

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@ZJMichaels
@ZJMichaels 4 ай бұрын
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@huaweiallc13
@huaweiallc13 3 ай бұрын
even way older huawei beat the newest samsung HUAWEIs technology is miles better
@darugdawg2453
@darugdawg2453 2 ай бұрын
so what is the 200M purpose in samsungs settings?
@janiss2926
@janiss2926 Ай бұрын
@@darugdawg2453 it's a sensor that does pixel binning from 4x4 grid to one for 12mp and 2x2 for 50mp, the older 108mp sensor did a 3x3 grid to 12mp. there is no point putting that many pixels in such a tiny sensor and optics where light can't get to it properly, that's why low light images and videos on phones are so ugly and full of noise and night modes rely on long exposures and taking multiple shots and then combining them together, so it's not even the real frame you're looking at in the end. plus good luck capturing a fast moving object that way. Only serious cameras with big sensors and lenses will do, just thinking about it logically - a big sensor with less megapixels will have the best low light performance.
@radistrumin
@radistrumin 10 ай бұрын
People nowadays forget that in the and of day this is a PHONE. Just appreciate what an amazing quality photos you are able to make with a phone!
@photonik-luminescence
@photonik-luminescence 10 ай бұрын
Thing is, it really is mind blowing how good phones are. Obviously when boundaries must be pushed, the phones quality becomes Morecambe obvious. For me, a external camera is essential since astrophotography is photography of stellar objects using a telescope so camera choice is important. External cameras and cameras in general beat phones (dur to the mountinf system to lens). In the worst case, people brag about their fake x100 time zoom S23 and it is annoying and ridiculous but what ever.
@Ezrabastian
@Ezrabastian 10 ай бұрын
It's not a phone, far from it. It's a super compact, powerful computer
@harendotesabydos4619
@harendotesabydos4619 10 ай бұрын
It is more a text computer then a phone. I don't see so many people who use this thing as a phone nowadays.
@SpiritWolf209
@SpiritWolf209 10 ай бұрын
Yes, the fact that the it is a phone is amazing. Let's also not forget that the phone is about $1,000 less than the camera.
@WrongButtonWB
@WrongButtonWB 10 ай бұрын
@OP, Nah, it's not just a phone, with a price tag of 1500€, it has to be more than a phone, to justify the cost of owning.
@downlink_x
@downlink_x 10 ай бұрын
Nice comparison. Finally someone who takes almost 1:1 identical shots for the comparison. Good work!
@elestudiodebuenavista628
@elestudiodebuenavista628 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I haven't seen someone do such a well-done 1:1 comparison. This guy did a 💯 job. Most people out there who compares cameras to this phone just shows a side by side with no zoom on the photos to show the detail in both cameras.
@n123v
@n123v 9 ай бұрын
Российский обозреватель «Филл» делал тоже самое на ютубе пару месяцев назад) Nikon vs несколько телефонов.
@ajnazatahm
@ajnazatahm 9 ай бұрын
Agreed, nice and straight forward. Would love one of these a year. And would prefer comparisons with less phone software processing on the image, like the optional AI processing on the Samsung. I’m excited to see the day phone cameras truly can compete with DSLRs, maybe with just a lens adaptor added 😁
@EddoWagt
@EddoWagt 9 ай бұрын
@@ajnazatahm I don't think that's going to happen without a lot of AI processing, in the end it's simply physics that limit the smaller sensors
@Nahan_Boker94
@Nahan_Boker94 8 ай бұрын
Agreed a lot of comparison clearly unfair since the camera is using a lens that no smartphone ever had, better angles on camera or the one who compared it have zero photography skills lol
@largon2008
@largon2008 10 ай бұрын
To be comparing any phone with the capability of going against a real camera is just mind blowing to me. Great job!
@CLVlogs05
@CLVlogs05 10 ай бұрын
I second this@@Globetrotter-1
@bb-ioan
@bb-ioan 10 ай бұрын
@@Globetrotter-1 compared to the Sony A7 IV, it does suck :)
@vashirvadam
@vashirvadam 10 ай бұрын
please bothe of you ..go and suck outside please @@Globetrotter-1 @Arcticfox7
@ilaion11
@ilaion11 10 ай бұрын
@@bb-ioan you are laughable because the sensor in the Z7 II is actually better both at DR and noise that what SONY put in the A7 IV! It seems you don't know your stuff...
@GauravDevrani-cc7vr
@GauravDevrani-cc7vr 10 ай бұрын
The sole purpose of this video is to show that any phone, in fact the most powerful phone with 3-4-5-6-7 cameras doesn’t have the capability to go against a real camera 😂
@eric.ko.
@eric.ko. 10 ай бұрын
The main issue I've always had with smart phone cams is the dynamic range and the over sharpening. Kills images when going for Landscape shots. Great video
@Maksp
@Maksp 10 ай бұрын
Try it with another phone. Google pixel is good 🔥
@Sabre912
@Sabre912 10 ай бұрын
@@Maksp still the dynamic range, depth of field, the color science, the over sharpening and fake moon shots ( samsung) on a cellphone still have a long way to go.. compared to a simple point and shoot.. cell phones are unbeaten.. but an actual camera with a sensor at least 10 times the size of a cellphone is going to get alot more data from the picture than a cellphone will ever will... now if you like to do pictures for like instagram and facebook.. go ahead cellphone is the way to go! but if im taking pictures of my kids graduation,, a machine dedicated to capture lifes moments in its best form...a Canon, Sony, or Nikon is the way to go!
@mralexlex
@mralexlex 10 ай бұрын
​@@MakspHave you ever use FF dslr or milc camera?
@petrpohnan875
@petrpohnan875 10 ай бұрын
@@Maksp Well, it is only "good". The DR is directly determined by the effective size of each pixel. That is why phones are tailing far behind a real cameras.
@OttoLP
@OttoLP 9 ай бұрын
the pixels can only output 12mp, which is a bit low for many use cases@@Maksp
@zorankarapancev2936
@zorankarapancev2936 10 ай бұрын
The simple fact that we can compare the S24 Ultra PHONE camera to FF Nikon Z7II speaks volumes. The FF sensor is more forgiving and has a better dynamic range, that is given. But with careful setting S24 (also S23) will give you very good to excellent images. If you want less default sharpening of the pictures you should download free Samsung Camera Assistant and with this app adjust sharpening to "Medium" (Picture softening), something that I use and recommend. P.S. I have Nikon D750 and Samsung S23.
@riccizepmeusel6899
@riccizepmeusel6899 10 ай бұрын
This simple setting is not carried out in any test or comparison. It would be embarrassing if a smartphone beat the expensive competition, right? 😉
@Desert-edDave
@Desert-edDave 10 ай бұрын
@@riccizepmeusel6899 A phone physically can't beat it. Lol layman fanboys.
@BrutallHawk
@BrutallHawk 9 ай бұрын
@@Desert-edDave but with software they might
@charles-antoinemartel-roy
@charles-antoinemartel-roy 9 ай бұрын
@@Desert-edDaveMaybe if you print the picture, but if you're going to post it on social media like Instagram, it probably doesn't matter at this point. Your scene capturing skills are going to matter far more than the camera you're using.
@fizzcochito
@fizzcochito 9 ай бұрын
This is mainly due to how nobody prints their photos. Like yeah no shit, if you only view your images on a phone screen it's going to look decent no matter the camera.
@ExploringWithJosh
@ExploringWithJosh 10 ай бұрын
your comparing a phone to a camera! to be honest i was expecting the nikon to look way better ! xD i guess when the iso goes up then the real test shows but its pretty nice to see where tech is going
@xOogieBoogie3x
@xOogieBoogie3x 10 ай бұрын
Small sensors do great in good lighting. I have a small sensor bright camera with 1200mm zoom - in ideal light, it takes great pictures. But once the lighting gets poor, it falls apart.
@soundsaroundus9494
@soundsaroundus9494 10 ай бұрын
I think if you can download the images on a computer and view them side by side, you’ll definitely see the difference
@syaondri
@syaondri 10 ай бұрын
KZbin compression might helped Samsung's
@absinth2k1
@absinth2k1 9 ай бұрын
You are right. Compare in Bad light condition and you will see that phones cannot beat physiks. In bad light condition a Phone needs Up to 3 Seconds frames or stack a Lot of frames where my 75 mm can make single frames
@apexsosapex1014
@apexsosapex1014 9 ай бұрын
and nikon did way better actually, much more detail, samsung obviously not close to 50mp
@someusername1872
@someusername1872 9 ай бұрын
Expert RAW is essentially computational RAW that outputs JPEG/RAW hybrids. That's why in the underexposure tests the Samsung falls apart introducing weird smudgy, blotchy artifacts and color casts when you push the exposure up while the Nikon doesn't. Photos from Expert RAW are definitely better than regular JPEGs but I wouldn't call them true RAW files as they have many characteristics of smartphone JPEG processing, which sort of defeats the purpose of shooting in RAW in the first place. It's really only useful for scenes with very wide dynamic range, low-light scenarios where Pro mode tends to introduce far more noise or shooting in 50MP as the 50MP samples I've shot just in Pro mode on my S23U are somehow less detailed than the 12MP samples even at base ISO and Expert RAW's processing seems to fix this issue. I'd personally steer clear of Expert RAW if you shoot in RAW often
@donnawetter1513
@donnawetter1513 8 ай бұрын
Since Feburary 2023 ProMode does not produce useable raw any more, it has the same dynamic range as the jpg and Adobe De-Noise can't work them because they are to much preprocessed.
@lelouchlamperouge5910
@lelouchlamperouge5910 7 ай бұрын
@@donnawetter1513 This is false for my S24 as of now, though. Also, you can disable most processing. Pro give you much better dynamic range than jpeg if you shoot raw, I haven't compared it to ExpertRaw though because on internet there are comparisons already and ExpertRaw is pretty bad on those, so this video should be remade.
@spamare
@spamare 6 ай бұрын
​@@lelouchlamperouge5910 Are you able to use the raw converter's own demosaicing method or is Expert RAW already demosaiced?
@lelouchlamperouge5910
@lelouchlamperouge5910 4 ай бұрын
@@spamare Expert RAW is already demosaiced as I understand (I have never done that process in my life so I think most if not all apps on PlayStore will shoot demosaiced already on S24 and S24 ultra) but just don't shoot on that Expert RAW shit, it ks pretty bad. Shoot on Pro Camera, I don't see anything that Expert RAW cam offer. Alternatively , if you want even better RAWs I did a in depth comparison of many RAW camera apps and it goes like this: Expert RAW < Pro Camera < Any RAW App < Open Camera. I don't know why, but Open Camera is giving the best RAWs, only drawback is that it doesn't give RAWs for the Telephoto, and they haven't fix this bug in month.
@iiEnIgMaii
@iiEnIgMaii 9 ай бұрын
considering the prices of both, the ability to carry around, the progress made in the latest years, phones are getting really really good.
@GamingInfested
@GamingInfested 6 ай бұрын
for me nothing will beat dslr. I own 2 mirrorless.
@MartinVanBoven
@MartinVanBoven 5 ай бұрын
Just never either take photos in non-optimal conditions, or enlarge them. Phone cams have become really good precisely and only in the easiest use case, and for viewing on a phone screen.
@JustGolight
@JustGolight 5 ай бұрын
​@@GamingInfestedthats the point....
@moriyamakyon1067
@moriyamakyon1067 4 ай бұрын
for everyday use - phones are great but at the same time some individuals claim that they can beat dslr
@BlackParade01
@BlackParade01 2 ай бұрын
​@@moriyamakyon1067sometimes, they can. This is a €3000 camera againt a weaker camera phone. Compare a €1500 camera to a Vivo X100 Ultra, and the phone will probably win too.
@Aleshotgun
@Aleshotgun 8 ай бұрын
To be honest is pretty impressive that from a professional photography standpoint, a camera phone is not really that bad compared to a professional camera that costs almost the double! And by the way, those places where you took the shots are simply amazing! Most of them looks like a painting. Very picturesque.
@DougDimbarre
@DougDimbarre Ай бұрын
A onde eu moro custa o triplo.
@teres4_uwu
@teres4_uwu 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see comparison with the standard RAW from Pro mode. They aren't oversharpened and they're more like RAW from an actual camera.
@Desert-edDave
@Desert-edDave 10 ай бұрын
if the "mode" it is in matters, it's not an actual RAW file as is on a dedicated camera, but rather a processed mess that attempts to do what dedicated (actual) cameras do.
@jonathasantoz
@jonathasantoz 9 ай бұрын
​@@Desert-edDaveYou can get the raw file, but only in pro mode. It's not like the phone tries to create a raw file, it's the real raw file. The "expert raw" is more like a processed image than an actual raw file. Get it?
@TechnoBabble
@TechnoBabble 6 ай бұрын
​@@jonathasantoz I can guarantee you that it's not an actual raw file. It's still heavily processed, else it would be a noisy mess at anything other than the base ISO.
@rafisburganov
@rafisburganov 5 ай бұрын
​@@TechnoBabblehe's talking about unprocessed raw from pro mode from default camera app, not the crappy "expert raw" app. It saves real information from the sensor. You'll even have all the noises if the lighting condition is not perfect like back in the day with compact pocket cameras
@Artem4egg_
@Artem4egg_ 2 ай бұрын
​@@rafisburganovoh the beauty of pro mode, holy cow. my eyes really commit die when looking at S20U raws
@piyushbasutkar8270
@piyushbasutkar8270 3 ай бұрын
It's been 10 years that smartphone companies are FOOLING people with their MegaPixel numbers, and people still haven't got around the fact that more MegaPixels doesn't mean better camera.
@Exlomm
@Exlomm 2 ай бұрын
mega pixels matters if you dont want your photos looking like it was taken back in 2014🤓
@charlesa3505
@charlesa3505 2 ай бұрын
More is always good 🤓
@fortich_official
@fortich_official 2 ай бұрын
Bro, again, megapixel does not so much for picture quality. The sensor size means. An camera has a normal 1inch sensor. The phone in 2014 haves very very croped sensor, and if it will have 1 inch sensor, anyway it will be trash cause the proccesor and other, in 2014 they dont have so much power as now, so they just​ cant procces that image. Now we have almost 1 inch sensor in phones like vivo x100 pro, s24 ultra, and others. And we also have a good hardware, like snap 8 gen 3, much more ram, so the proccesor can handle that image. And that is that what really means in taking a picture. So the MegaPixels, is not that important. @@Exlomm
@Jacob-dunne
@Jacob-dunne 2 ай бұрын
Yea your right, the phones these days (or 99% of them) stack multiple of the same image to create a higher resolution 👍
@Aphorism89
@Aphorism89 2 ай бұрын
@@Exlomm Literally they don´t. You can rarely tell the difference between 25 and 45MP in a high end mirrorless.
@photoentusiasta
@photoentusiasta 9 ай бұрын
Finally someone competent to show a decent test between a camera and a smartphone... I liked the mention of the diaphragm informing that we get a greater depth of field in cameras and in smartphones the aperture is fixed. Nobody mentions this... You gained a subscriber!!!
@Bayonet1809
@Bayonet1809 9 ай бұрын
Samsung used to have a bi-variable aperture in some of their older phones (e.g. Galaxy S9). With phones getting larger sensors I would like to see that make a return too, otherwise there can be insufficient depth of field.
@Scottie_McNaughty
@Scottie_McNaughty 10 ай бұрын
I love that this was done with the same model of phone AND Camara I have. What a fun coincidence... Great vid btw
@ZJMichaels
@ZJMichaels 10 ай бұрын
Haha that's awesome
@kanehi3275
@kanehi3275 10 ай бұрын
Samsung does have a "Pro" setting with ISO, shutter, EV, white balance settings and selective focus. People who uses cell phones wants that immediate satisfaction of having the pictures and sharing them to social media. I've blown up an image to poster size using a Samsung image and it held up well. Each camera has it's niche and using either one is fine.
@cricketarena4926
@cricketarena4926 8 ай бұрын
Its been only 1 year , your video quality grows everyday
@koolpep
@koolpep 9 ай бұрын
Wow, in good light these cameras perform so well for years already. Amazing what phone cameras can do.
@KarelBrendl
@KarelBrendl 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review! For the phone, the pictures are acceptable, but 5x is definitely behind the primary camera. I moved from a large camera to a Sony a6600, but in some cases, the camera is still not very practical (kids walk). Knowing that the phone is getting closer with quality is excellent. I will wait to swap my camera for a phone, but for quick walks, reasonable alternative.
@TheAndrewBen
@TheAndrewBen 10 ай бұрын
Great video! 4:00 I take serious consideration to zoom in 200%, instead of 1:1 because a lot of professionals zoom into 200% when fine tuning their images. The power of large DSLR sensors is still impressive when viewing a perfectly sharp photo at double the size, which is where smartphone cameras will always fall short.
@HazakunaJr
@HazakunaJr 9 ай бұрын
Real comparison by Real expert. This kind a video is what I was looking for
@marcoscarloss8922
@marcoscarloss8922 10 ай бұрын
amazing comparison, especially by using the RAW files of the S24 Ultra and the Nikon. If possible it would be interesting to see a similar comparison between the S24 Ultra and Iphone 15 Pro Max, using the RAW files of both with Dynanmic Range test.
@ZJMichaels
@ZJMichaels 10 ай бұрын
Good idea, thanks!
@donnawetter1513
@donnawetter1513 10 ай бұрын
I would be interesting to see the comparison once Samsung fixes their RAW files.
@nevvanclarke9225
@nevvanclarke9225 10 ай бұрын
The problem with phones is they don't create an immersive experience. As soon as you get into Photography with a phone you will be instantly be sharing your photos and you've lost the moment you've lost the pure joy of taking photos.
@vueport99
@vueport99 10 ай бұрын
if only they'd remove the horrible sharpening. After all, Raw should be just that, RAW! They can photo stack all they want for color / dynamic range, but why did they have to sharpen a RAW file?!!
@larrynicholson5913
@larrynicholson5913 10 ай бұрын
​@nevvanclarke9225 personally I disagree I think that's more about the person (or what they're wanting to achieve) than the equipment.
@ttp_007
@ttp_007 2 ай бұрын
Aperture is king! If Samsung comes up with a phone with larger sensor and the option to attach an external 20-25mm lens to it for a more professional result, it will be a game changer for many photographers.
@adamdumsday
@adamdumsday 27 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to go through all this. I know this sounds weird, but I wanted to know this so bad that I felt like you were sitting next to me talking me through everything. Sometimes I said something in my head before you said it 'why does the image on the left look more 2d and phone like' and then you said in the video the image on the right looks more 3D. The 3D I guess is the emotional connection the customer builds. What I'm learning is that a professional camera (full frame sensor and aperture) is designed to capture incredible detail, but Samsung/iPhone/Pixels are designed to capture enough for Social Media, they don't get the detail as soon as you start post production. I starting editing my Samsung Galaxy S23 photos, but learned that it doesn't capture the specific detail and intricacies I'm wanting, especially when you start changing contrast or lighting levels in Post Production. I'm currently shopping around for a professional camera so I can launch a business in Australia. I've had enough people ask me for prints that it's probably time to see where it goes. I've narrowed my knowledge to 3 main areas: 1) The actual camera and equipment (I'm looking at Sony or Canon) 2) Post Production (Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop at present) 3) Printing quality (I'm shopping around for different companies)
@rakhimberdiyevt
@rakhimberdiyevt 10 ай бұрын
The fact that we have to zoom in and pixelpeep nowadays to definitely say which one is better speaks volumes. Of course they are not even close. But just how much power we can just carry with us daily in our pockets is amazing.
@tarpara
@tarpara 10 ай бұрын
“The best camera is the one you have in your pocket” is a quote I live by
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 6 ай бұрын
You don't have to pixel peep to see the camera is leagues better
@Chipicat_balls
@Chipicat_balls 5 ай бұрын
Agree
@MartinVanBoven
@MartinVanBoven 5 ай бұрын
I'd say it's the other way around. That because most people now view photos exclusively on miniscule phone screens, an opening has been made to market devices that make most people think they take acceptable photos.
@tonymorris4335
@tonymorris4335 5 ай бұрын
You don't if you're looking at the actual images on your own display, but on a compressed youtube video the pixel zoom is the only way to see it. It's more obvious in real world editing.
@kobiorama
@kobiorama 10 ай бұрын
Very good comparison. It would be interesting to see what happens with the regular RAW files since I assume that the over sharpening is part of the "expert" raw files function. In general - a phone camera is for posting small images to social media, unless you are shooting at daylight with a correct exposure
@MarkoMood
@MarkoMood 10 ай бұрын
Why do you say that? It's not like you can't work with phones just like a pro camera. If you're shooting at night, you simply increase the exposure and always shoot at ISO 50. Exposure bracketed 50MP RAWs look great when stitched and processed manually.
@Desert-edDave
@Desert-edDave 10 ай бұрын
@@MarkoMood Go ahead an adjust aperture on a phone lens... oh yea, there is none, it's entirely software-based. 😆No, you can't 'work' phones like a 'pro(re: real)' camera, try to 'work' another lens on there. 🤣. Also , FYI, ISO is more akin to a measurement of gain, not light sensitivity like ASA in the film days. Software emulating is always going to sacrifice something. There's a reason why cameras are used for actual (more than mere snapshots) photography and phones are considered toys by comparison. Live with both (e.g. have experience on the topic) and you'll only pick up the phone to snap a photo if you don't already have the camera nearby.
@kipkipper-lg9vl
@kipkipper-lg9vl 2 ай бұрын
almost no one is carrying a full size camera around anywhere if they are not prefessional or very enthusiastic about photography to be fair, most people won't be able to really tell much difference at a glance
@ZA-7
@ZA-7 2 ай бұрын
Dude got touched ​@@Desert-edDave
@IIISentorIII
@IIISentorIII 10 ай бұрын
Did you test the "virtual" ND-filters on the phone? I just came home from a week Snowboarding in Verbier Switzerland and made some amazing shots and 8k 30fps footage but did not test those ND settings yet.
@peto1986
@peto1986 10 ай бұрын
I was wondering how to use them
@SMGJohn
@SMGJohn 9 ай бұрын
"amazing" 8k shots, LOL
@UnderTakerSN1
@UnderTakerSN1 9 ай бұрын
It's amazing from his experience and perspective,. What's with the "Lol"?? ​@@SMGJohn
@TechnoBabble
@TechnoBabble 6 ай бұрын
​@@UnderTakerSN1just the fact that the resolution of smartphones is essentially just marketing, especially for video. 8k video from smartphones usually looks worse than decent 1080p on a dedicated camera.
@607racing
@607racing 3 ай бұрын
​@@TechnoBabblecategorically false
@maksimlapaev7292
@maksimlapaev7292 6 ай бұрын
Достойный результат для телефона! Я думаю всем понятно что телефоны всегда будут отставать от хороших камер, но ониуже приблизились к качеству сьемки на камеру
@madhats13
@madhats13 10 ай бұрын
Great comparison, thanks for doing this! I think the Samsung is delivering incredible results for the size of the sensor and lenses.
@ZJMichaels
@ZJMichaels 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah I agree… great results considering the sensor & lens size on the phone
@nevvanclarke9225
@nevvanclarke9225 10 ай бұрын
The problem with phone Photography is that it's not immersive it's instantaneously and have you ever seen anyone put their phone into Aeroplane Mode when they're taking photos no they will soon become distracted by that Instagram pop-up all that Facebook notification people instantly then reply to that and then go back to taking the photo this is why I do not recommend phones for Photography and it's got nothing to do with the quality of the photo or the image or the sensor or anything else it's the purpose of immersion.
@LeeMansfield
@LeeMansfield 10 ай бұрын
agreed - wait until they introduce a new 1" sensor on the S25 :)
@vueport99
@vueport99 10 ай бұрын
@@ZJMichaels simply amazing.. imagine hiking thru the woods and no having to carry a huge backpack and a massive Carbon tripod. Mind Blown!
@danpro.u
@danpro.u 6 ай бұрын
​@@LeeMansfieldS25 nebude mít 1".
@TechnoBabble
@TechnoBabble 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you showed dynamic range and high ISO performance. So many of these comparisons seem to be hell bent on only showing situations in which you can almost match a dedicated camera. Thank you for not just doing wide angle, broad daylight portraits.
@Meg_A_Byte
@Meg_A_Byte 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. In ideal conditions, it's very easy to say phone camera is basically on par with regular cameras, but outside of that, it does fall apart very quickly.
@andr101
@andr101 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! This is the comparison I've been waiting for. It would be interesting to analyze the standard raw mode as well, to examine the dynamic range differences between standard and expert raw, and to see if, with fewer computational tricks, the 5x lens can capture more detail. Additionally, it would be interesting to review images downsampled to 25 megapixels, which is still an acceptable resolution for printing, and to see if the detail loss compared to Nikon is still noticeable.
@dailyDorc
@dailyDorc 7 ай бұрын
Was also curious to see the standard raw. The AI blend of expert raw would make sense that finer details would be smoothed out was sort of disappointed we didn't get an apples to apples look at a single shot raw photo
@mikafoxx2717
@mikafoxx2717 23 күн бұрын
​@@dailyDorcI wonder if standard raw is un-debayered? These use a quad Bayer that's essentially the same as the 12mp Sony A7Siii but instead of binning the 4 sub-pixels they try to extract additional detail information from it for 48mp Luma but really only 12mp color information, or so. Maybe this camera is doing pixel shift to get full color info for each pixel in pro raw, plus multi exposure for boosted dynamic range.
@mijalic1
@mijalic1 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your time and effort to make this video and share your knowledge with us. Greetings from Croatia.
@123Balinda
@123Balinda 10 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks a lot! I personally know that I would love to see a video comparison between Samsung's "normal" RAW files and ExpertRAW
@haugiangmotovlog3839
@haugiangmotovlog3839 10 ай бұрын
Expert RAW is better! I'M Using 23U, only shot ExpertRAW!
@jakilahmoulien9070
@jakilahmoulien9070 10 ай бұрын
ExpertRaw is a gimmick for pro photographers. You get more dynamic range but it's very digital looking with more artifacts.
@shyhandiq
@shyhandiq 10 ай бұрын
I do find expert raw photos bit artificial and oversharpened. Normal raw looks good. I use normal raw photos.
@White7561
@White7561 10 ай бұрын
THIS. I saw that on ExpertRAW you get nifty features like the virtual ND filters etc. But we CAN'T disable the processing there. Sometimes it looks awful. Also. if you notice, the RAW files on the normal Pro mode is like CRAZY big compared to the ExpertRAW RAW files. It's like it's not actually a RAW file. I saw that for one of my picture, I got below 10MB of ExpertRAW RAW size, compared to like 40MB on the Pro mode RAW. I think there is something going on there
@mralexlex
@mralexlex 10 ай бұрын
​@@White7561every raw file is cooked, in every pro camera or phone. How much, depends on company...
@RikkyTang
@RikkyTang 2 ай бұрын
I just got a S24 Ultra and I'm glad I persisted with my search through YT for relevant videos. Firstly, thanks for a well produced, detailed and nicely paced comaparison of the S24 vs a decent mirrorless camera. Secondly I want to congratulate you on having a break through video on your channel! I'd love to have a video with over 100k views on my channel with 4.3k Subs and here you are with over 600k views at under 6k Subs - and it's well deserved!
@Stonexjunior254_
@Stonexjunior254_ Ай бұрын
Man I don't know what u are talking about, but they look pretty similar to me. Some pics , Samsung actaully looks better even if its digital zoom.
@niqart
@niqart 9 ай бұрын
The most detailed comparison between cellphone and FF 42mp above camera. Great work dude....
@brabb1t_526
@brabb1t_526 10 ай бұрын
Try using the Pro mode on the Samsung. It shouldn't do any processing to the files and shouldn't look oversharpened like that. It will still be behind the Nikon, but I'm just curious how the Pro RAW files look compared to ExpertRAW.
@Desert-edDave
@Desert-edDave 10 ай бұрын
All phones do to images is process them. They do not have interchangeable lenses, and the lenses they do have do not have a physical aperture. They use software to attempt to compensate for poor dynamic range and color accuracy. Phones only *try* their best through software to emulate what dedicated cameras do naturally, with sub-par results.
@jonathasantoz
@jonathasantoz 9 ай бұрын
​@@Desert-edDaveObviously! It has nothing to do with what was said above.
@ParetoEmperor-jp6ke
@ParetoEmperor-jp6ke 10 ай бұрын
still cannot beat the nature of sensor size to get more lights and details.
@Desert-edDave
@Desert-edDave 10 ай бұрын
Never mind lenses.
@HomelessShoe
@HomelessShoe 10 ай бұрын
That's just physics...there's only so much you can do with software (it became significantly better though). Bigger lense means it can capture more details.
@sullivan912
@sullivan912 6 ай бұрын
Not to mention the glass. The best of sensors will produce mediocre output when paired with poor quality glass.
@facepalmingskeleton
@facepalmingskeleton 8 ай бұрын
Really appreciate this comparison I was looking for 👍
@850Tech
@850Tech 10 ай бұрын
These are the comparisons we need.
@stealthis
@stealthis Ай бұрын
It takes an actual photographer to make them unlike somebody who just turns churns content
@twalker294
@twalker294 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see a comparison of expert RAW vs. standard RAW from the Pro photo mode on the S24. The Expert RAW files are most definitely NOT RAW at all. I can take the same photo in Expert RAW and Pro mode on the standard camera app and the RAW from Expert RAW is 3-4 megs whereas the RAW from Pro mode is 40+ megs and is obviously a true RAW file. Great video and I look forward to seeing more from you on the S24.
@tobiinmadeira
@tobiinmadeira 10 ай бұрын
This will be a good comparison to see.
@ZJMichaels
@ZJMichaels 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Yeah I am planning on doing a comparison like that
@MichaelSchmittEleven
@MichaelSchmittEleven 10 ай бұрын
Given that the S24U is capable of much more than just taking photos, the image quality is astounding! 😀 Thx for a great comparison!
@SonicHawk90
@SonicHawk90 6 ай бұрын
Its amazing to see that phones have gotten so good that people have to go to this length to find fault with smartphone pictures.
@BillNyeX69
@BillNyeX69 5 ай бұрын
This video was put together really well. Amazing comparisons.
@morandioficial
@morandioficial 9 ай бұрын
Guys, please remember, this is a phone... This quality on a f*cking phone, is just superb. It is obvious that a full frame camera will be better, but think about it: If you're not a professional, the samsung camera will just be over your expectations, no matter the situation.
@striderwhiston9897
@striderwhiston9897 8 ай бұрын
Not when the phone costs just as much as the camera which outperforms it in every metric, and outside of landscape photography? the z7 absolutely destroys the samsung. You can get better image quality on a £150 used decade old DSLR than a brand new samsung
@telfer3388
@telfer3388 3 ай бұрын
@@striderwhiston9897 But you dont buy the phone just for the camera. You buy the phone for literally hundreds of different pursposes and of top of that as a bonus you have a great camera in your pocket. So it is really hard to compare prices here. A camera is just that - a camera. But how much the other things in your phone are worth to you ? The GPS, MAPS, Google services. Social networking, Mail, Thousands off different apps, Video calls , normal calls, Health monitoring etc etc. If the phone only had the capability to take pictures then we could compare prices and take a piss out of the phone. But then again it would not be a phone then , it would be just a camera.
@chilly1661
@chilly1661 2 ай бұрын
@@striderwhiston9897What you’ve said is so stupid it’s not even worth expressing why.
@adorp
@adorp 2 ай бұрын
@@telfer3388 you buy a top end phone for bragging rights. All my friends use Galaxy S24 and IPhone pro max, while I still use a poco phone. With my phone, I can do every essential task they can. I will rather pair this poco or a Moto G series with an used DSLR.
@k7ufo819
@k7ufo819 3 ай бұрын
Just being able to compare both already says a lot about how far they've got. Good enough for most people
@thomastessier4529
@thomastessier4529 7 ай бұрын
Professionals will always shoot with a fixed body and replaceable lenses. However, for the vast majority of the population, these new high quality phones, and there are a lot of them, do way better than many people want and most of them taken on a phone are rarely printed out. And the phones make it so much easier to travel with a good quality "camera" that fits in your pocket versus a big bag of bodies, lenses, filters, etc.
@Universoftech
@Universoftech 5 күн бұрын
The quality is quite good for the S24 Ultra consodering it's a phone but still not enogh considering its price , they should now brig 1" sensor to the main camera and at least something like 1/1.56 inch sensors for the other cameras , and they should also increase battery capacity not really related with our topic but it should be improved .
@Ferocious_Imbecile
@Ferocious_Imbecile 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I'm looking forward to having a camera in my pocket that can perform like that, even if it's not all that the Nikon could be. Just always having that luxury of being able to grab something at that quality on your person all the time is awesome.
@johnbranham9756
@johnbranham9756 9 ай бұрын
I also just purchased the S24 Ultra to replace my S21 Ultra and I also own the Nikon Z7ii. The detail that the 1x lens on the S24 resolves is pretty impressive. Now for low light, or as your comparison shows dynamic range, the Nikon quickly pulls away, but you have to think that this is just a cell phone and how far technology has come. The largest improvement that the S24 brought compared to my S21 is that it nails focus. My 108MP mode shots on the S21 were great when they were in focus, but it missed focus 50% of the time and when you're in bright sunlight it's hard to see if you have a keeper. Thank you for the comparison, I enjoyed it!
@lennyvlaminov9480
@lennyvlaminov9480 10 ай бұрын
Autofocus and low light capabilities would be nice to see
@JohnSmith-tx3ys
@JohnSmith-tx3ys 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. It’s an amazing phone, no doubt. But my a7iii plus my favorite prime lens ( 55mm f1.8) sells for a little more than this phone costs. I can take portraits of my kids that look like magazine shots and I’m a newbie.
@Rain-Dirt
@Rain-Dirt 2 ай бұрын
Useful review! Thank you for sharing and taking the time.
@TarrelScot
@TarrelScot 9 ай бұрын
Speaking as someone who still lugs a camera around, this was reassuring! It would be interesting to see a comparison of "straight" raw files (i.e not combined). With the under-exposed shots in particular, it looks like the phone's software just didn't have enough data to play with.
@Schwabinator003
@Schwabinator003 9 ай бұрын
Great comparison! Please do another one with the regular pro mode, I feel like the pictures rather lose detail in expertRaw mode.
@danielschmaderer
@danielschmaderer 6 ай бұрын
Anytime I edit with my camera vs phone camera, I always see the over processing the phone spits out. The small sensor just can’t do what a full frame or even an APS-C sensor can do. That being said, the phone cameras are pretty good for what they are and it’s honestly impressive that we can make this type of comparison these days. Still don’t see myself doing bird photography with a phone anytime soon.
@agepbiz
@agepbiz 7 ай бұрын
Great comparison! I am amazed by the photo quality of modern high end phones, but it was also interesting to see the cases where the quality broke apart
10 ай бұрын
Really interesting video about a subject people asked about. Thanks!
@sanji663
@sanji663 4 ай бұрын
This gotta be the best comparison videos I've seen
@mikegarwood8680
@mikegarwood8680 10 ай бұрын
It's all about the sensor size, not megapixels.
@marcusnathan2650
@marcusnathan2650 10 ай бұрын
Nice video... did you disable scene optimization on the Samsung?
@shyhandiq
@shyhandiq 10 ай бұрын
Scene optimisation doesn't work in pro photo mode.
@WrongButtonWB
@WrongButtonWB 10 ай бұрын
It should be off, all the time, if you care about the pics you wanna take. ;)
@bluesbrother928
@bluesbrother928 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for the work you put into the comparison.
@WhatThePheel
@WhatThePheel 10 ай бұрын
Considering the price of a pro camera is more than double the cost of a phone, it did amazingly well.
@Desert-edDave
@Desert-edDave 10 ай бұрын
Can get better results from a camera that costs the same as the phone. ;)
@ivarnordlkken8082
@ivarnordlkken8082 10 ай бұрын
Then consider that rhe sensor in a phone is tiny small compared to any system cameras, including Pentax Q.
@WhatThePheel
@WhatThePheel 9 ай бұрын
@@Desert-edDave Make an comparison, lets see that theory
@CMaxFlms
@CMaxFlms 9 ай бұрын
​@WhatThePheel I did the comparison between my Nikon D5300 and my Samsung S23U nothing much of a difference unless I started heavy color grading my files, the D5300 held up well but when I edited the Samsung it fell apart after using most of the color wheels. A camera body does not really matter in terms of quality, it's the lens that gives it power while smartphones is the Ai, it also depends on what you are capturing. Phones will be a hard pass to sports and wildlife photography, it may be good for landscapes but it is due that landscapes are generally dependent on the editing and hoe you see the photo. Phones will never beat a professional camera in a mile, Fuji cameras have better colors than any phone could offer, Nikon is generally just average, Sony has better video features, Lumix offers good video while maintaining cost, Canon has good color science and overall good photo quality. While phones on the other hand can offer quick and easy snaps but can never have the same complexity as a Full frame or a Medium format camera
@WhatThePheel
@WhatThePheel 9 ай бұрын
@@CMaxFlms Exactly, if it were to be a kit lens. I'm sure the quality wouldn't be on par with the Samsung phone. But if you're using a 1k-2k+ lens, it just defeats the purpose of comparison.
@ahmetemirakbulut
@ahmetemirakbulut Ай бұрын
Amazing video! 😎👏🏻
@slawekt.2077
@slawekt.2077 10 ай бұрын
Amazing comparison 😊 But we have to notice that when you making picture you are watching it how it is. You are not zooming it. Only when you want to print it as a big wallpaper or something. Otherwise for me some pictures looks better on samausung.
@Shape84
@Shape84 2 ай бұрын
It's true. However, zooming in to 200% shows what is actually in the photo. The problem with cameras on phones is a significant loss of detail (blur). This test shows it perfectly.
@67comet
@67comet 2 ай бұрын
This is a good explination of what makes photography specific cameras relative with today's phone cameras. I have the hardest time explaining to my friends and family why I still use a photography camera to take my images (Pentax K-3 Mark iii in my case). I've got a Pixel 9 Pro, and the images are spectacular, but the versatility just isn't there for the types of photography I enjoy most (Street, abstract, portraits, landscapes - etc...) .. Nice work, thank you ..
@redis8298
@redis8298 Ай бұрын
Actually the phone is holding up quite well against the pro camera, not bad!
@marcoantoniopersilva
@marcoantoniopersilva 10 ай бұрын
Considering the difference in sensor size, was anything different expected?
@saleemfamily3784
@saleemfamily3784 10 ай бұрын
Yes, the phone should have produced much worse pictures. But it is super 👌. Imagine samsung producing full frame cameras using the same sensor technology and processing
@andr101
@andr101 10 ай бұрын
P.S. I don't intend to spread misinformation, but I recently came across a comment on another video stating that the expert raw mode comprises a stack of 8-bit JPGs, whereas the normal raw mode is 12-bit. If this information is accurate, it could be really worthwhile to conduct a comparison of highlight recovery between the two modes.
@ZJMichaels
@ZJMichaels 10 ай бұрын
If you look at Samsung's info on Expert Raw, they say "Expert RAW lets you effortlessly shoot in Linear DNG 16-bit RAW files with even greater clarity and a wider dynamic range than regular RAW files" www.samsung.com/uk/explore/photography/3-reasons-why-you-should-shoot-with-expert-raw/ I couldn't find info on any of Samsung's pages regarding the actual types of images used in the stacking process, but I saw that Tom's Guide says "Expert RAW's main benefit is that its images are made up of several RAW exposures blended together, instead of a single frame like standard RAW photos" www.tomsguide.com/features/why-i-love-samsung-expert-raw-in-galaxy-s22-and-how-it-beats-iphone-proraw Of course, not everything on the internet is accurate, but this is basically the info I have to go off of. If there's reliable info out there that gives more insight into how the ExpertRaw files are created, do please share. I do agree that it would be worthwhile to compare the two types of Raw files. I'll likely do that at some point in the not too distant future.
@lennardschubert1147
@lennardschubert1147 6 ай бұрын
Its crazy that you have to bump up the ISO or go to 100% zoom to really see a difference between it. Now imagine this comparison 10 years ago
@Andy-cc4qy
@Andy-cc4qy Ай бұрын
I wonder when smartphone producers start to realize that excessive sharpness isn't a good thing
@sweden01ful
@sweden01ful 2 күн бұрын
how big is sensor and lens in samsung ?
@joachimkracher9613
@joachimkracher9613 10 ай бұрын
A great and realistic comparison. In the photo with the waterfall, I noticed that the Samsung tends to have small artifacts (in the water). I wouldn't do long exposures with it.
@luckysonani8288
@luckysonani8288 2 ай бұрын
Finally a smart comparison guy who is a bit technical
@geo2theo
@geo2theo 10 ай бұрын
The difference is that Samsung literally produces images (by calculating) while Nikon reflects the image in most accurate way possible with today's technology.
@banderastube
@banderastube 9 ай бұрын
Imagine, a dedicated video camera and a smartphone comparing , they are almost the same in quality, how much smartphones tech evolved these days, awesome
@TheRealLink
@TheRealLink 10 ай бұрын
As a pro photographer, I was curious to see how your comparisons would hold up. Obviously amazing differences once you cranked the ISO, and yeah it's pretty darned good for a phone, but I still prefer my big large camera, haha.
@sharpasacueball
@sharpasacueball 9 ай бұрын
For me it's nice to be able to take shots with something I can fit in my pocket
@JPStaats
@JPStaats 9 ай бұрын
@@sharpasacueball "taking shots" is not really the intention of a "big large camera". Smartphones have however replaced point&shoot cameras, as was expected.
@amcikyarak
@amcikyarak 9 ай бұрын
Why is he talking so negatively about the Samsung results? The results are outstanding! Above all, with the S24 Ultra you can take photos in 200 megapixels or set everything yourself in Pro mode, etc.
@jamespulver3890
@jamespulver3890 10 ай бұрын
Phone cameras are fine to good for snapshots. I've heard the AI and improvements are going to pass real cameras in a couple years for over 5 years now. Still hasn't happened. As I've learned more in my hobby, I've found more and more that I can't do with a phone, or can't do as easily. The biggest thing is lack of controls on a phone means you're slow to change settings, which can mean missing shots, or going with a less than ideal default setting. They still don't handle zoom that well, and detail is usually lacking. OTOH, the immediate post processing in the phone really helps if you want to snap and share immediately.
@lensman5762
@lensman5762 10 ай бұрын
Samsung and Apple are already using AI in their phones to optimise the data from the sensor. Its just not widly advertised. The Raw files are also not exactly Raw, as a lot of data manipulation , noise reduction, and presharpening is applied within the camera ( look at the section ( that he compares the sharpness in the video ). They are what they are and are here to stay, but not for me. I am sure other people will have their own opinion on this.
@carlosandreviana9448
@carlosandreviana9448 10 ай бұрын
@@lensman5762 yes. raw files on phones are a marketing lie
@damage968
@damage968 10 ай бұрын
As someone who got into photography after buying a S23 ultra this video hits home. After 2-3 months of owning the s23u I bought a Sony A7 IV and the picture quality is just not even close. The samsung phones are pretty amazing and they can do some incredible stuff but it's still an enourmous gap between phones and professional cameras
@Xiquinhodasilva99
@Xiquinhodasilva99 9 ай бұрын
Yes! I don't know why people keep comparing smartphones with Full Frame cameras or APSC .
@damage968
@damage968 9 ай бұрын
@@Xiquinhodasilva99 it's bc smartphones have indeed come a long way and actually for people who create content for social media it's gotten to a point where a good phone can meet most of the needs
@BashirSensei
@BashirSensei 6 ай бұрын
I wish the brainless people who saying "why people still buying cameras" to see this video
@JoeVanGogh
@JoeVanGogh 2 ай бұрын
Id happily use either of these for capturing moments and memories in life
@carltercak4742
@carltercak4742 9 ай бұрын
For the 99% of population this is black magic 😁 . 0.1% of the phone users know basics of the photography.
@pizzablender
@pizzablender 5 ай бұрын
More and more people are learning photography (as in composing an image, managing lighting) than ever before thanks to the instant feedback these days. On screens and from friends.
@Kingsman-1981
@Kingsman-1981 Ай бұрын
Not only for MP for the quality, lens size is the most important factor 😅
@mnewm21
@mnewm21 6 ай бұрын
it just shows that as Google said, the quality of the software is becoming more important than the quality of the hardware. Considering most people never look at their photos on anything other than their phone most of the hardware benefits are irrelevant anyway. If it looks good on a 5" screen that is good enough! I print photos and it becomes pretty apparent that a real camera is best for large prints, but otherwise a phone these days is perfect for everything else.
@YossStybel
@YossStybel 8 ай бұрын
I own a Z7ii and the 24-120 is one of my favourite lenses. I am also impressed by the image quality of the Samsung though, it is truly amazing. Thanks for the great video!
@darkprofile
@darkprofile 7 ай бұрын
The difference is not so much if you remember one of them is just a phone with camera. If you will not print a billboard from that shot, the difference is not significant in digital platforms.
@mdrakic
@mdrakic 9 ай бұрын
Great video, but could you run this comparison again with the latest SW update and not using Samsung's RAW format?
@betl5982
@betl5982 10 ай бұрын
For a casual non professional person the S24 Ultra is good enough with differences in costs of buying a high/pro quality camera and portability.
@larrynicholson5913
@larrynicholson5913 10 ай бұрын
In addition, there is a learning curve, knowledge, and experience required to use a "professional" camera effectively. Smartphone cameras enable general users to capture reasonably good images. It is likely that they would not be able to achieve significantly better results even if they used a "proper" camera. Whereas a 'professional' photographer will get better than average images using a smartphone. For me, these comparisons truly emphasize the remarkable progress that phone cameras have made. It is somewhat analogous to comparing the acceleration capabilities of a Ferrari and a Mini on a racetrack. However, in typical, everyday traffic conditions, there would not be any noticeable difference between the two.
@imamwahyudi4259
@imamwahyudi4259 9 ай бұрын
Amazing review👏👏, it is nice to see a proper photo comparison between smartphone camera vs full frame camera. I love it!
@syedjaffar310
@syedjaffar310 10 ай бұрын
the answer is simple. They're photographer... professional. Give them whatever phone they'll utilize it fully.
@Anderson_Anderas
@Anderson_Anderas 3 ай бұрын
nice one! Concrats! Keep the good work!
@definingslawek4731
@definingslawek4731 10 ай бұрын
Fundamentally, the tiny plastic lenses on phones aren’t capable of resolving 50mp of detail.
@pizzablender
@pizzablender 5 ай бұрын
@@enevii And smartphone lenses are the lenses getting the most design effort spent on. And the best levels of QC as well, it seems.
@Aeve4714
@Aeve4714 Ай бұрын
How can i take full res raw image on my phone?
@r423fplip
@r423fplip 10 ай бұрын
Do a print. You will be surprised how good the phone is.
@LordMitac
@LordMitac 10 ай бұрын
phones suck at landscape bro good for close up shots and thats about it
@bigbluespike5645
@bigbluespike5645 9 ай бұрын
A very well made comparison.
@Kayserjp
@Kayserjp 10 ай бұрын
its still a toy. not even close to real camera.
@lewcehjitl3282
@lewcehjitl3282 10 ай бұрын
Better than Nikons whole Mirrorless for sure. Better autofocus, smaller, light weight and better battery life. Sounds like a win to me.
@ljacobs357
@ljacobs357 10 ай бұрын
It’s a phone, not a toy. Of course it can’t compare.
@elram2649
@elram2649 10 ай бұрын
Nikon Camera FTW! All the way! I use the phone camera for scouting and personal time use. I use the Nikon for paid work. 💪😎👌
@rakeshadhikari5556
@rakeshadhikari5556 10 ай бұрын
For the size. Today's Mobile devices are for sure amazing leap in camera technology. Not replacement but definitely handy and go to
@mone6773
@mone6773 10 ай бұрын
Yeah but Nikon doesn't fit on my pocket, so no thanks to me.
@geekbuy82
@geekbuy82 2 ай бұрын
I would like to see some macro or nature photography, when a quick shutter speed is crucial.
@patricklacson
@patricklacson 7 ай бұрын
Excellent comparison! The fact that you're comparing a phone camera to a 45mp DSLR is just nuts. Samsung, like all phones, rely upon AI processing to fill out the details that are missed with the smaller sensors. But what an amazing phone the S24 Ultra is! If I'm hiking in those scenes, 100% I would rather carry a phone than a big bulky DSLR for minimal gains.
@sealand000
@sealand000 8 ай бұрын
I'm impressed; didn't think it would hold up that well.
@Khanal1975
@Khanal1975 3 ай бұрын
Excellent comparison. Thanks for the wonderful video.
@foxyroxy404
@foxyroxy404 4 ай бұрын
I'm still amazed at how good phones have become at taking photos. Especially portraits. If you showed me photos from modern phones 10 years ago, I wouldn't believe it 😮
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